S6E9: The Truth About Human Design: Permission, Power & the New Paradigm with Analena Fuchs - Part 2

Analena Fuchs is an Intuitive Human Design & Gene Keys Guide and creator of the Intuitive Human Design Teacher Training Certification. She helps conscious leaders stop people-pleasing and step into their power using her unique holistic Human Design approach. As host of the True Sidereal Summit and a 3+ year podcast veteran, Analena is a leading voice in the human design space, teaching practitioners to read charts as complete stories rather than isolated elements.

In this two-part, truth-talking conversation, Kylie Patchett and Queen of True Sidereal Human Design Analena Fuchs crack open Human Design as a system of sovereignty and self-trust.

Analena shares her journey from corporate burnout to intuitive coach, the golden thread that led her to Human Design, and the moment she realised she was never meant to fit into anyone else’s formula. Together they explore how trusting your design becomes a permission slip to do business your way.

You’ll hear:

• How to stop using your chart as a cage and start using it as a compass
• The difference between tropical and True Sidereal Human Design (and why it’s blowing minds)
• Why self-trust is the real strategy
• The liberation that happens when you drop the “one right way” narrative
• The link between the 64 Gates, the Gene Keys, and your unique genius codes
• Why your body knows before your brain does

Part 1: Analena’s personal awakening, her transition from corporate to coaching, and how Human Design gave her language for her multi-passionate magic.

Part 2: The True Sidereal shift, breaking free from old paradigms, and what it really means to live your design in the new era.

Also mentioned in this episode:

• Analena’s Intuitive Human Design and Gene Key Certification
• Video – How to Grab Your True Sidereal Chart using the Midpoint Calculations of Athen Chimenti and Genetic Matrix

 Connect with Analena: @analenafuchs

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Transcript

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[00:01:00] Hello there, beautiful listener. This is part two of a two part series that we did with Analena Fuchs, a True Sidereal human design and Gene Key reader, intuitive business coach, and she has so much wisdom to share about her whole journey through human design as this most beautiful self-mastery, self-awareness, surrendering to your magnificence tool. If you haven't listened to part one, go back and listen to that.

Analena Fuchs: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. What I love about this is you if, I mean, you already. I know this of you is so highly intuitive, but what you're not, but, and what I hear underneath all of this is this internal guidance system, this body and what I would like, I always use a language of like this wild woman inside of us who knows already our path mm-hmm.

Kylie Patchett: And our life purpose and where we are meant to be going next. Um, was your, your [00:02:00] connection with that part of you is clear enough to just be like, well, if this is where I'm being called to go, this is where I'm being called to go. Who am I to argue? 

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And I think that's one of my superpowers in some way where I'm like, 

Kylie Patchett: definitely that 

Analena Fuchs: is just so strong.

Analena Fuchs: And I have really, and actually I have learned also through human design to really work more with my feminine. Yes. And that's something also that was very strong in my tropical chart. Yeah. That the gay two is the feminine essence and that wasn't my incarnation cross. So somehow. That intuitively was such a wake up call for me to, you really need to lean more into this pay 

Kylie Patchett: attention.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. And then I had so many events in my business where when I was really feeling successful and things were flowing is when I always trusted myself. So I had a lot of confi confirmation and validation and all these people reaching out to me. I got emails. So it was the first time where it was kind of blowing up in a way, you know, when the universe [00:03:00] is like showing you Yeah, you're in the right path.

Analena Fuchs: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Win, win, win, Kim. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lemme send you all these people. And it was literally coming left and right and um, so I just knew I, I'm meant to be, even though there were already some people years before me that started this, um, that I'm really meant to bring this forward in a very bold way.

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. And especially, I think one of my strength that I have, I wanna say is that. I really make a good effort not to make anybody wrong. Yes. And look, you may still be triggered because I'm obviously more excited about true idea, like cannot hold that back and I'm not going to, that's just how I feel. But I, I respect whatever you wanna do because human design and anything is teaching us to do what feels right to you.

Analena Fuchs: And there may be millions of people that meet you as a tropical astrologer. Yes. Tropical human person. Yeah. Yeah. Because I was there for years. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, I used it for three years [00:04:00] and without that experience it wouldn't have let me on my evolution to true side. So, exactly. We again, have to be very careful, not now to go out there and make other people wrong.

Analena Fuchs: That still resonate with the tropical. Yes. That is their choice. Itsty to decide at some point. You know what, let me actually check out the truth idea. Feel it resonate. Maybe it doesn't. Yeah. Maybe you wanna work with both charts. Maybe at some point the TR Tropical doesn't resonate with you anymore because we are not static.

Analena Fuchs: Mm. And yes. Yeah, we have a birth imprint. But then we, we evolve and even in astrology we have progressed chart, we have yes. Solar charts. And we in, in, in human design also, we have these transits and, and everything. It's living and breathing and it's evolving. And I thank RA so much for channeling this human design and having the courage to share this so far and wide.

Analena Fuchs: Yes. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. [00:05:00] 

Analena Fuchs: I'm not here to maintain it in exactly the same way that he taught it. I'm here to share it in my unique way. Yeah. I'm here to let it evolve. And even the Genies by, by Richard Rudds, the foundation was a tropical human design. Yeah. He, he studied with Rah, he knew him. He was a representative of human design in the uk.

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. And at some point. Things started to not resonate anymore. He had his own intuitive downloads, and here we have the gene keys. Yes, exactly. How beautiful is it? All? Thanks to his experience also with human design. Mm-hmm. Exactly. And, and, and everybody creates their own unique way also of how to work with human.

Analena Fuchs: I mean, that's why I, I actually have a, I have a certification now, it's called the Intuitive Human Design Teaching Training. Yes. 

Kylie Patchett: Oh. Which I almost got into this year. Damn it. 

Analena Fuchs: Next year. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, [00:06:00] it's actually right now opening and as we speak Oh. Because it has been such beautiful response from my clients.

Analena Fuchs: They were like, and Elena, when are you gonna launch it again? I wanna shout it from the rooftops. And I'm like, okay, I am gonna do it. This is exciting. The, the transformation I see in my clients, it's just. So beautiful because obviously I attract people that are no longer resonating with this cookie cutter approach that often is being portrayed with human design, you know, because there's nothing new to it.

Analena Fuchs: Mm-hmm. Um, like how do you see human design? That's what I'm interested in. And what other wisdom you wanna combine it with in your unique way. Yeah. And 

Kylie Patchett: what, what connections is it making in your own, because that's what, and I, you know, the, the story of going from human design and then developing the Jen Keys is a perfect example.

Kylie Patchett: It's taking a system that already exists and then having your own, your own gift. [00:07:00] Leah onto top again, I'm back to Apple Strudel. I'm sorry to say it twice in one episode, but you know, it's Now I'm only one song Yeah. Know. I know. I'm like, oh God, I don't even know where to get good to Apple Strudel in Country Queensland.

Kylie Patchett: Um, I'm interested when, because when you shifted and you still offer both tropical and true cerial, um, readings, don't you? 

Analena Fuchs: So if somebody wants to do the tropical, I can't read any chart. Yes. And it's gonna be an amazing session, but people, I wanna say 99% of my people, they want the true side. Yes. So I'm mainly now talking about it, but I'm always like, it depends what you want open 

Kylie Patchett: too.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Yeah. But actually I think, sorry. 

Analena Fuchs: No, most people, they always tell me like, no, I came here because I trust you. Whatever chart Yes. You wanna work with, so, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: Um, I've been, so I use a human design chart. Um, I like to look at voice and visibility and marketing [00:08:00] communications through the lens of human design.

Kylie Patchett: 'cause again, to me it's pattern recognition and it's like, here's what I notice from the hundreds of people I've worked with that and they just happen to, and it's interesting in the clients that I have done any reading for, since I spoke. And I've been like, okay. And I was so excited. We have to talk about the genetic matrix and that, you know, the, yeah, the best, most accurate chart is also now available.

Kylie Patchett: Um, but yeah, I've only had one person say, no, I resonate more with my tropical. I'm interested too, for you, because when we first met, like I, you know, Erin connected us and I was like, oh my goodness, I'm having an identity crisis. I have been trying, since I've restarted my business to use more of the human design so that I don't, 'cause I created.

Kylie Patchett: An utter shit show in my first business with burnout and just recreating all of the people pleasing over caregiving things. And I was, you know, it's trauma crap and whatever. So [00:09:00] I've done a lot of work on that, but I also really wanted to be conscious of like, how, like what is the best, how do I find the best way to do my hard work in the world but not have it cost me my health or my sanity or my scruple, like any of the things that I will not, you know, I will not sacrifice.

Kylie Patchett: Um, and the, one of the best things that you said to me, 'cause I've been trying like three, five generator. Okay. Like so, and particularly the generator piece and I'm just like, my business is starting to feel the same as it was the first time and I don't wanna go down this path. Then I had the download, then we talked, and the most, like the best sentence you said to me was, there is no right or wrong chart.

Kylie Patchett: It's the one that resonates with you the most. And I was like, I. And again, I realized I was over identifying with how a three five generator should do business. And I'm like, that is part of the shadow of like, this is not a stick with which to whack yourself. Like this is, this is a system of better understanding [00:10:00] yourself and so you need to trust your own resonance.

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. And you know, as you said before, tropical may feel juicy for people right now, and that's totally fine. And then maybe sometime down the track it won't be the case. Mm-hmm. Um, where was I going with that? Big question. When you, what were the biggest things that you, like when you shifted from using your tropical chart for your own experiment to then coming across the true scenario?

Kylie Patchett: Like how, what things kind of surprised you or what felt the most edgy where you were like, oh, there is an edge to, I was trying to do it this way because that's how I was, you know, designed. 

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. So. I wanna go back to answer that. Sorry. I said it was a big question, own experience with the the three five, because we have this idea and it's actually great because it's not that human design is putting anything onto you, it's more like it's triggering your own shadows, which is great.

Analena Fuchs: Absolutely. Right? Mm-hmm. Um, and in my case too, so I realized when I saw [00:11:00] my true side chart, mm-hmm. So for me, like I shifted from a two, four to five one, there's also a six two, I played with both a five one and a six two. I honestly resonate a lot with Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but the official answer of five one, so it felt so much more empowering to me and I was like, wow, the two four actually, like there was limitations or something somehow was an excuse for me to always wait for people to invite me to everything.

Analena Fuchs: Yes. Because the two four is very much a projector energy, like, you know, and not recogni. I was more seeing how I was more in the shadows of the two four. Mm-hmm. When I actually shifted more into the uh, five one and also right now. So I shifted interestingly from a manifesting generator to a generator.

Analena Fuchs: Yep, yep, yep. And the main thing here is to do what lights you up. And the traditional human design we have manifesting generator, like you do everything, right. Not everything, but yeah. Yeah. [00:12:00] Multi passion. Imagine that More projects going on. And as a generator, it's more a focused approach. Like yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: That is the part that did never resonate with me.

Analena Fuchs: So very interesting evolution for me. First, the manifesting generator was such a permission slip to me because I used to beat myself up for not picking a niche, for trying all these things for experimenting and changing my podcast, all this stuff. Right. Um, all three lines. So the manifesta actually is like a three line, the man gen, also the manifesta part.

Analena Fuchs: It's three Line energy, even though I didn't have a three line in my profile. Yeah. That part for was for me, the permission to experiment, which I so needed. I was a, yeah, not an entrepreneur since out of college, but it was still fairly new for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I really had to learn what didn't work for me to learn also what works for me.

Analena Fuchs: Yes. And now with the five one generator. [00:13:00] I really, what came up for me is also the shadow of the managing where I was too much over the place because you can fall into extremes. Yeah. Where I would jump too quickly from things and I would announce things too quickly and uh, just how I'm working on my computer and all these different systems and like I, I got overwhelmed and I was too much saying yes to collaborations and all these things.

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Analena Fuchs: Rather than like, no, I really need to focus. And so for me, the five one generator message mm-hmm. Was like, yeah, you can be multi-passionate. Yes. And you always will be, but girl, you have to focus more. You have to let go of some stuff that's just distracting you. And especially in terms of people pleasing.

Analena Fuchs: Yes. So that was showing up very, very big. So just these last six months I. Really let go of a lot of things. And I'm in a process of simplification and [00:14:00] I was also doing some other courses that I'm, yeah, I'm really good at it, but really my full jam is this whole human design thing. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm really giving myself at this point in my life and my career, this Yeah.

Analena Fuchs: Permission slip to actually keep it easier for me, believe it or not. Yeah, 

Kylie Patchett: yeah. 

Analena Fuchs: By just doing the thing that feels so joyful to me. 

Kylie Patchett: And that lights you up. Right. So it's like, oh my God. It had to be more difficult than being let out. Yeah. Like 

Analena Fuchs: I, I can, I can talk about this human design stuff for hours, and this is the third podcast in a few weeks, by the way, none of them was planned.

Analena Fuchs: It all came to me effortlessly, easily. Um. And kind of talking about the same thing and I'm not getting tired of it. That's kind of where I'm realizing that it's just like, let's just have a talk show. Yeah, exactly. I'll just keep 

Kylie Patchett: on talking. 

Analena Fuchs: You just deliver me podcast opportunity. Yeah, and it, it's like [00:15:00] it feels too easy now, and I always tell this to my clients, but I had to learn this for myself that you really have to lean into this.

Analena Fuchs: It's easy for you for a reason, and I keep catching myself over and over again. Still. Yeah. Complication that I, in my head, everybody knows about Trudy or astrology and how the different charts and how to do the genetic matrix. I forget that. I didn't know at some point, and this is why I'm also so thankful that we are having these conversations because obviously yeah.

Analena Fuchs: You are excited to talk with me about it. Mm-hmm. To add your audience and to get this out to more people because Absolutely. Yeah. What's in my head is not in everybody else's head, obviously. No. 

Kylie Patchett: And we need, the way show is like, this is what paradigm shifting requires of us, is speaking up again and again and again, and again and again.

Kylie Patchett: Because there will be people out there like the kind of closet people that were, you know, in the background thinking. Mm-hmm. Hang on a minute. Well, maybe [00:16:00] this doesn't feel completely resonant and I really wanna come back to, well, actually two things. First of all, we have been conditioned to believe that this.

Kylie Patchett: Money receivership needs to be harder than what it is. And when you're in your genius zone, it feels like breathing and yeah. Things come, come to you because you are so, you know, radiating like mm-hmm. You know, ease and flow and so then you're matched with that. But the second thing, um, I really wanna come back to what you said and, 'cause you've just given me a massive personal aha about what you said about the, like, feeling like the two four was almost, you know, was, um, you didn't use the word limitation, but that's what I kind of heard.

Kylie Patchett: It was like, I'm happy to kind of stay here and mm-hmm. Because I feel similar, the three five. To me, almost gave me a reason to kind of keep on mucking things up and not like really getting anywhere [00:17:00] kind of thing. I don't know, there was that sort of energy behind the three five, and it's almost like I was like being apologetic about like, oh, you know, this is just me, you know, just breaking things and you know, like almost like, um, what's the word?

Kylie Patchett: I can never think of it. Like, um, uh, is it, it's not depreciation, deprecating, is that the right word? That's like, you know, kind of like keeping yourself at a level and now Yeah, at a bay. Like Yes. Not adding your potential. Yeah, exactly. And then, so I've changed to, well, initially in the other cerial calculations, I was different again.

Kylie Patchett: But, um, now six to manifesta and that six, the three to the six, I'm like, oh. There is a, like, there's a, something in me that's like, oh, this is about owning the lessons that you've mm-hmm. Accumulated and being able to alchemize and then Yeah. To to [00:18:00] share. There's, there's something very different about the energy to me, and I'm like, I do feel that in my body.

Kylie Patchett: Like the three five was kind of like, okay, well I'll just sit back here and I'll just mumble along. Now the six two, it feels like it's inviting me to, to evolve into the next version of myself. I think that that's a kind of energy that it gives me. Um, yeah. I wanna also, Elena, talk about the, so when you talk about jenky and getting, like, everybody has all 64 gates.

Kylie Patchett: Like we all have all of the chart. Could you talk to us about the genius codes that you use? 'cause I really love that, that, that way of explaining the shadow and the light of each of the gates. Oh, beautiful. There you go. If you're not listening or if you're not watching on video, um, we have got genius coins right in front of us.

Kylie Patchett: Very cool. So here we have five. So this is if you have eight, 

Analena Fuchs: five in your chart, right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Or even if you not, and then 35 is the other side. So in the gene case, we call these programming [00:19:00] partners. Yeah. And astronomy. It will be an opposition. It's simply an opposition sky. Yeah. Mm-hmm. 

Kylie Patchett: The geneticist, sorry, in me sees that also as like the amino acids on the helix.

Kylie Patchett: Like they lock together, like the, there's a Yeah. Relationship that stabilizes the system anyway. Could have nothing to do with that. Love that. But anyway, that's what I saw. 'cause 

Analena Fuchs: what I realized, so I have been most fascinated on my human design journey with these 64 gates and then the gene piece. And there's so many different interpretations of these 64 energies and also the Chinese ing.

Analena Fuchs: And eventually I created my own practical version inspired by all of these wisdom, of course. And I call it now the genius archetypes. And if you have this gate five, right? I learned from my own contemplations that you may not have the 35 in your chart, but if you're not looking at this, it's very hard to understand this.

Analena Fuchs: Mm. Because this is a coin and, well, a coin always has two sides, right? Yeah, 

Kylie Patchett: yeah, yeah. 

Analena Fuchs: You, you cannot access the divine masculine without the divine [00:20:00] feminine and vice versa. Right. So, and, and this is also a lot of old ancient teachings talk about this. Yes. The polarities, you know, everything. We have these extremes and if you only look at one, then we are more in this shadow of, we are looking at it in a very isolated way and yeah, yeah, yeah.

Analena Fuchs: You may not have this energy in your chart defined, but to really understand an energy, you really wanna look at the other one. Because if you're in the shadow of one, you will be in the shadow of the other. The other. So here we have, so from the genies, if I get it right, so five, I think the shadow is impatience.

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Analena Fuchs: And here, remove 

Kylie Patchett: all of 

Analena Fuchs: these. Amazing. The 35 is, is hunger. I think, you know, when we are, what do the next experience, we never satisfied with everything. And the 35 is a very experimental, it's kind of a three line energy. Mm-hmm. So 35. I would put just like three line. Yay. Um, and in the high expression, we have patience.

Analena Fuchs: Yes. [00:21:00] And we have adventure. Oh. So, you know, you still experiment and you have adventure, but in an energy of patience where you don't have to rush. Because also there, there will be a phase where you have this urge is our human addiction. Sometimes I need the next, I'm hungry for something more and I need the next drug and the next excitement.

Analena Fuchs: And again, we are impatient. Mm-hmm. So, because often that patience is, it's such a hard thing, like what does it really mean? Mm-hmm. But when you can put it into the context of the other side of the coin, which, which has to do with this, um, yeah. This constant need for more and more thrill and, and yeah.

Analena Fuchs: Then it 

Kylie Patchett: really helps the nuance, doesn't it? Like the, yeah. Course you get to feel it in a more holistic way, the way that they work together. 

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. And also, I mean, one of the most powerful ones is the, the one and the two [00:22:00] that's also a coin or programming partners on opposition in the sky and the one is the divine.

Analena Fuchs: Masculine. Masculine. Yeah. And the two is the divine feminine. Feminine. Yeah. So, and I have gone through this, right? In my business, in the beginning I was all masculine. I have to do this and take action and do this again and again. Even not, but, but it didn't even feel aligned to me. And when I learned that I have to be in the aligned version of the divine feminine in order to be in the aligned version of the divine masculine.

Analena Fuchs: Mm-hmm. That's when everything changed because. I learned that the divine feminine actually comes, has to come first, because that's the receptive I am receiving. Mm-hmm. It's above my orientation to my own unique path. Yes. And from this place when okay, like, like I'm meant to be doing this true idea of human design thing.

Analena Fuchs: Yes. That feels right. This is aligned in the core of my [00:23:00] being. Yeah. And taking action from this place actually feels effortless. Mm-hmm. Because it's in the right direction. But if I were in the shadow of the divine feminine Yeah. Where I'm mis oriented. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Analena Fuchs: Like I'm not listening, I'm not, I'm not really slowing down enough to really like what feels really right to me.

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. You don't even have that connection. Exactly. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Analena Fuchs: Then. I am taking masculine action from this place is also gonna be in the shadow. It, it's too much effort. It feels off. You keep getting this external resistance from the universe because it's trying to redirect you. Yeah. It's like stop through your aligned.

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. Yeah. Way. Right. So I don't know all of these energy then obviously I have been contemplating them for years and I have written my own interpretations about it all inspired by this wisdom and it just describes how the universe works. Yeah. It's so rich and then it connects with these other modalities, like [00:24:00] Kabbalah and, and it's my spiritual practice.

Analena Fuchs: It's also my connection to God. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 

Analena Fuchs: I had such a hard time growing up with religion and I find it very fear inducing and I couldn't connect to it. Yeah. And I always had this desire, can you just kind of. Except whatever people are believing in. And I cannot say that this is the right and the wrong.

Analena Fuchs: I always had a problem with that growing up. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, and human design for me, what gave me access to this because it was this more universalized wisdom, at least how I saw it. Right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, and it connected me to all this other ancient wisdom also like Kabbalah and, and, and you find this wisdom and also back in the teachings of Jesus, for example.

Analena Fuchs: And it's just like, wow, how beautiful that ra channeled this because for me it's this human design thing that helped me connect to all of this. Yeah. You know, that so cool. Makes me, [00:25:00] 

Kylie Patchett: I just love how you're talking like it's spring here on my, the underside of the world where I am and. There's so many. I've got a big locust tree outside of my office window, and there's like Laura Keets all over it, which I think you can probably hear in the background, but as you're talking, I feel like we've come full circle to the initial thing, which is like.

Kylie Patchett: Like if we are connecting to modern astrology, which is always this rushing, it is that very masculine without stopping and pausing, and I'm hearing all of the nature outside of my room and I'm like, to me, this is all, it's just coming back to our own nature, being informed by the cycles of nature. And this is why, you know, my science training found me, you know, working in hospitals and working in labs, and I thought that I was gonna be part of this like health and wellbeing thing.

Kylie Patchett: And then I found myself in a broken system that really didn't work for people. And so I went and studied traditional Chinese medicine and that was one of my like, oh, this [00:26:00] is a remembering, like, I get this, I understand that everything needs to be in balance and this is how the seasons work, and this is the cycles of our own life and the cycles of, you know, feminine cycle each month and all of those things.

Kylie Patchett: Like it's, it's the macro and the micro, like it's all the, it's all the same. And I feel like. I dunno, the, the phrase that's in my head is just, it feels to me like human design can be used as this beautiful way of coming home to who you really are. Mm. And you know that at the heart of it. Like what a, what a gift and, and what a gift for it to continue to evolve, which is also the nature of nature, right?

Kylie Patchett: Like, nature doesn't stay stuck and stagnant. It's always expanding, but it also has contractions and, you know, changes and shifts and molds over time. Um, yeah. It's just, it's such a beautiful, it's just a, a beautiful reminder that we are part of the big [00:27:00] picture as well as, you know, I feel like sometimes entrepreneurship.

Kylie Patchett: Like, you know, we are doing our thing here. And it, I don't know, I, I think I'm speaking for myself at the moment. Like, I live in a little country town, there's not other entrepreneurs around, so I don't really get, you know, face-to-face sort of connection time with people that are doing similar things. And sometimes it is easy for me to be like, I'm in my office doing my thing and I kind of forget out there.

Kylie Patchett: And the nature of things. So I'm, one of my personal things this spring is to, um, I've joined a hiking club, so I have my first hike on Saturday. 

Analena Fuchs: Oh, I love that. Um, 

Kylie Patchett: yeah, because I just, I knew a, I need to move way more than what I am, but also just that nature is just, yeah. Nature feels like a church to me.

Kylie Patchett: If I ever had to choose one. Me too. 

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm, I'm too, the older I get, I wanna be more connected with nature. And, and this is also I think why I resonate so much with this true [00:28:00] idea version of theology and human design, because it's, it's. But straight up in the sky. Yeah, exactly. With whatever we have made up with these systems.

Analena Fuchs: And it feels the most calming to me where I'm like, I no longer have to fix, I no longer have to search for anything. Yes. And it, it also, it gets to the point with human design where I don't really look at my chart that much anymore. I do from time to time. It gives me like huge validation on thing and more as a confirmation.

Analena Fuchs: Um, but also, yeah, I obviously went through a phase of over identifying with things. It's, it's part of the game and how beautiful is that and Yeah, exactly. You know, however you're at on your journey also know that's perfect where you're at. Mm-hmm. And like, like I told you, which thank you for sharing that was helpful for you.

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. That whatever chat resonates with you, it has a message for you. Yes. Yeah. There's no right or wrong. Um, if other people are trying to tell you you're doing it right or wrong, like, I hope you can [00:29:00] dismiss that because. Nobody knows how you feel in your body. Nobody does. And that's what I always wanna listen to.

Analena Fuchs: Mm-hmm. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. You knowing, your knowing and anything that pulls you away from that. Yeah. 

Analena Fuchs: Mm-hmm. And, and you know, like, love one of my mentors, he said that in a beautiful, a like really love for yourself and others is when we can radically accept ourselves and others. Mm-hmm. And I love the word radical. Yes.

Analena Fuchs: This has also to do like, I am being asked to accept wherever people are at, whatever they belief in. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. I think that's, that's probably, we could write a whole book about the need to be right. No, I mean, oh, I know, I know, I know. Oh my God. So, uh, 

Kylie Patchett: dear, 

Analena Fuchs: whatever helps you to.

Analena Fuchs: Find your home and your body Yes. Where you're connected to this. It's really [00:30:00] there, this divine guidance because when I'm in the zone, you know, when I really follow my, my genius, it's undescribable. Undescribable. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's a flow state. 

Kylie Patchett: I, I find it is. And 

Analena Fuchs: I, I, I cannot tell you how things came along or how I did it.

Analena Fuchs: I'm not, and I'm not gonna teach you a five step process fluke. It's really, you connect it to your magic and you're open to receive that what ever is meant for you. Yeah. And it's like you're swimming with a current of your unique path rather than trying to force yourself against, because that's why it's unnecessarily hard.

Analena Fuchs: And look, we all go through challenges, right. But we can't make it unnecessarily hard when we're trying to follow what other people are saying. Yeah. Because that's not your path. And life is gonna show you left and right and put all the stones in the way. Yeah. To show you until you, until you get it and you start to trust yourself.

Analena Fuchs: And of course [00:31:00] that will bring about an ego death that will bring about a lot of tests and trials if you're really committing yourself. Yep. Um, that's gonna make a lot of no sense to the minds, because our mind always wants to have security and wants to have proof before anything that if I'm gonna do this, it's gonna work.

Analena Fuchs: Like it has to have a Yeah. There's gotta be a 

Kylie Patchett: plan. Yeah. So if people are listening and what, like wherever they are on their journey, if they feel like there's something that they just want to nibble on around, um, true serial, I wanna cover for them how to get their chart with the correct calculations.

Kylie Patchett: Because we haven't talked about Ethan yet, but, well I know you mentioned Yeah. But, um, can you talk a little bit about Yes. All the different calculations? 

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. So. One for astrology. You wanna go to mastering the Zodiac? Yes. They have a wonderful software now called True Sky. Yes, 

Kylie Patchett: I know. I've been playing with it.

Analena Fuchs: You can pull charts is is incredible. And they [00:32:00] have a free version and also a paid one if you wanna save charts and stuff. And then for human design, as we are speaking right now, the most reliable resource is Genetic Matrix and I created a video, I'm gonna send you the link to that. You can just put in the show notes.

Analena Fuchs: I've got it. I saved it in my Asana. As we are speaking, you still need to have a pro subscription to that. Yes. But it's totally worth it if you just get it for a month. Um, and if you work with clients, you wanna have one anyways. Yes. Uh, that software is really amazing. So there's finally a way where when you put these settings in, it's gonna work for any chart.

Analena Fuchs: Mm-hmm. Um, really watch the video because I'm also going over a couple of things that you have to be Yes. That changing back to the several time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Um, is it perfect? No, but it's so much better than a year ago. We had to manually put values in for every single chart. It was a mess. Yes. Um, so yeah, and I hope in the next few months I'm working also with a one other [00:33:00] company that hopefully I will have something on a website where people can just come and pull that chart for free.

Analena Fuchs: That's really the goal. Uh, once I have it, I'll definitely let you know, but, um, it's 

Kylie Patchett: coming. Amazing, amazing. Um, we need to say also, we are talking about a specific true Cerial calculation that's been developed by a, is it Menti or Menti? I can't, what's the correct 

Analena Fuchs: Menti? Ethan. Ethan Han Menti. So yeah, he, he always had a calculation, but he now, this year in July, 2025, yes.

Analena Fuchs: He published it officially. It's called the Midpoint Method and how he's calculating everything. So there was some minor. Uh, changes to it, but it's now like all fixed. Yes. And for the astrology chart, there probably weren't the big changes, but you know, in human design, because we have gates and we have lines and there's also variables.

Analena Fuchs: So with the slightest amount of like, I mean, you have Harvard degree change. Yes. You can become a [00:34:00] totally different type in human design. Yeah, I did. Yeah. And, and that's also why, you know, I really understand of how the chart comes about and how easily it can change. That's when it lost for me too. Like yeah, let's not take it too seriously.

Analena Fuchs: Like just because you have one gate of a difference. Mm-hmm. You can shift from being a generator to a manifesto or vice versa. Yes. Yeah. And people think it's completely different and oh my God, how can it be? But your chart is still very, very similar. It's just that one gate and yeah. Again, so I really wanna help people to.

Analena Fuchs: Yeah, realize this and see more the unique story in the chart than over identifying with that one type or that one profile. Yes. Because you have a profile that's just your sun and your earth. Yeah. Uh, placements. But you still have all these other lines. Yeah. All of this 

Kylie Patchett: other, all of the layers. Yeah. The Apple Street on stop saying that.

Kylie Patchett: I'm gonna call this the Apple Strudel Lina Books conversation. Um, oh man. I'm really hungry [00:35:00] now. Sorry. Um, I wanna come back to your human design c certification as well. So tell us more about that, because I didn't realize it was open. So talk to that, this out this week. So yeah, let's share. 

Analena Fuchs: I actually, no, this is.

Analena Fuchs: It's such a funny synchronicity because when we started to record I was like, oh, I didn't even tell you. Yeah, no, but like, ah, we're gonna talk about it anyways, so yeah, it's called the Intuitive Human Design Teacher Training and Certification. Mm-hmm. It's a nine month journey. I like to go slow. Yes.

Analena Fuchs: Because this stuff takes time. Yes. You know, it's almost like birthing, birthing a new baby or real, fully embodied, widely aligned identity. Yes. And I integrate, of course I'm gonna, it's all the teachings, but in my very unique way, it's not how you read it in textbooks. And you also get access to these, these genius archetypes, these genius coins.

Analena Fuchs: There's a beautiful booklet for both the channels and the 64 gates as well, and there's a [00:36:00] private community. It's the art of intuitive chart reading, and the deconditioning is a huge aspect of the certification, like in our work. Yes, that's one of my clients' favorites, I find. And so it's here, of course, for you to become your own intuitive human design teacher and reader, right, to help do readings in a very confident way.

Analena Fuchs: But it's most and foremost for your own transformation, your own journey. Because the more you embody, when I say you're human design, what I really mean is your most authentic self. Yes, I get it. Not holding back, trusting yourself. You're dropping the people pleasing. You're fully owning who you are. Yes.

Analena Fuchs: And from that place, you naturally become magnetizing. You people are like, oh, what are you doing? I need to know. Yeah, yeah. I'll have what she's having. Yeah. No, literally that's what happening. And you, you start to magnetize your. Own aligned people. We call this a soul fractal in the gene keys. And from that place, things [00:37:00] just unfold in the most magical ways.

Analena Fuchs: May it take longer than how we want it to be? Most likely, yes. Because I'm not gonna hear, I'm not here to promise you to make X amount of money or do this in two months. Like, who am I to know that that's gonna happen for you? I'm not God, I'm not. Right. Yeah. I'm just here to support you live your most aligned life, and whatever your timeline is, that is totally up to you.

Analena Fuchs: You know? And, um, yeah. So that's, it's a, it's a wonderful journey. It's probably the most comprehensive. Transformation that I can offer. And we also have a community, we have biweekly life course where we are gonna do chart readings and any questions that you have, it's often the people you meet there. I mean, we had some very magical encounters in the, in the last cohort.

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. It really felt like divinely orchestrated and yeah, so it opens for enrollment on, I mean, it starts, it's already open for enrollment right now, but we start with our first live [00:38:00] call on October 22nd. Okay, cool. But the very last day to sign up is November 5th before the second live call, because missing one live call is not a big deal.

Analena Fuchs: Yeah, yeah. It's 18 total. You can, 

Kylie Patchett: and do you wanna say a link? We'll put it in the show notes as well, but for anyone who's listening to 

Analena Fuchs: Yeah, you can go to my website an folks.com, and when you scroll down to offerings, you just click on the human design certification. Perfect. And it, it will take you there.

Analena Fuchs: There's also some very beautiful. Video testimonials that I interviewed my clients with, because I'm not a big fan of these old school testimonials, but it's just like one sentence or it's like, yes, I do 

Kylie Patchett: videos as well. Yeah, because you capture magic in videos. That's Yeah. Yeah. Really you can't put into I 

Analena Fuchs: sat down with them and it was also such a beautiful moment for me, and I'm, I think there's five on them on the website as I'm speaking.

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. And just listen to them. You know, these are really people that have experienced it. [00:39:00] And, and anyways, you will know if this is for you. There's no pressure. I'm offering it this time for 33% off the regular pricing, but it's not like a time limit. It's like you sign up this cohort. Yes. That's what it's going to be.

Analena Fuchs: And um, there's also payment plans painful six months, nine month. 'cause I, I, I do wanna make this accessible for people. Oh, I'm 

Kylie Patchett: gonna go check it out. 'cause when we talked about your last one, you were already kind of a couple of months in and I was just like, I just don't know. I know ll wait. I'm gonna respect my own timing.

Kylie Patchett: Um, I'm so grateful that you said also this piece about timing because I do think, you know, the entrepreneur world is full of, you know, promises of very quick fixes and the rushing again, right? Mm-hmm. Um, I was just having a conversation with one of my clients last night about, um. I, I, I did hear this somewhere, so it's not my novel idea, but I really loved the concept of like, all of us have a seed and some of us are more like sunflowers are gonna be quick growing and bloom [00:40:00] and you know, kind of very early in, in life kind of thing.

Kylie Patchett: And some people are like oak trees and that magic takes a lot longer to develop. And I'm like, I feel like I'm an oak tree. I'm just coming into my own in my 50th year. Yeah. So I do, I really, um, yeah, really resonate with the concept of everyone on their own timeline and just trusting. 'cause we, we had, we started this conversation with this, like, I always feel like people are passing me by kind of thing was what, what she was sharing with me.

Kylie Patchett: And I was like, you're not even on the same, like, you're not on the same racetrack. Like no one can pass you. Like you're doing your own. This is you. It's not no one else's like timeline. You can't compare. 

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. What I find happens when we try to rush it, it's actually slowing us down. Yes. Hurry 

Kylie Patchett: up 

Analena Fuchs: and slow 

Kylie Patchett: down is something I am often saying.

Analena Fuchs: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's, it's um, it's about surrendering your path and when you do that, it actually becomes accelerated. Yeah. Yeah. And then also we see these quantum leap sometimes happen [00:41:00] where you're like, oh, I just don't even know how it happened. Because you become an energetic match to that. It already exists in another timeline.

Analena Fuchs: It's just like, are you allowing it? Yes. You know, I love this concept. 

Kylie Patchett: I just recorded it. Um, I've just opened a new, um, year long program and we had our opening call the other day and I did a little, um, like a kind of hypnotherapy kind of thing for them to listen to, but that is exactly what we're talking about is that timeline.

Kylie Patchett: But all of those million or infinite mm-hmm. Timelines and possibilities in front of them. And yeah, it's very cool. Very cool. When you understand the quantum and, and like 

Analena Fuchs: the one thing with human design, you know, this is about, like I said, about being your most authentic self. And I think there's some research now out there that authenticity.

Analena Fuchs: Authenticity is the highest frequency. It's the highest vibration. Yep. Mm-hmm. So doing this work as in the certification like for nine months working on yourself, it's about calibrating with authentic authenticity. So just watch the magic unfold. I don't know what that magic looks like [00:42:00] for you. Yeah. But you better be ready for it.

Analena Fuchs: So 

Kylie Patchett: cool. So cool. Oh my goodness, you've been such a joy. We're gonna have to split this in two halves 'cause I have waffled on for the long time. But I just thank you so much. Thank you for saying yes to that. Knowing inside of you to start, you know, leaning into this work. Because I know that the ripple effect is not only rippling through all of us, that were kind of like new to the like, hang on a minute, this doesn't make sense.

Kylie Patchett: But all of the people that are perhaps on the cusp of this next step, and they, we, we need someone to show the way. Right. But if you said no.

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: So thank you. 

Analena Fuchs: Yeah. Thank you for having me. Thank you. I was just looking at the time. I was like, wow. I know, I know. I'm sorry. 

Kylie Patchett: All right. We will wrap up there. Have a beautiful day everybody. Thank you for listening in. Um, and head to, so an Alina is A-N-A-L-E-N-A and F is mm-hmm F-U-C-H-S. Just [00:43:00] so you get the spelling right.

Kylie Patchett: We'll put it in the show notes. Goodbye everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Thanks for having me. Bye.

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