S5E25: Cosmic Weather Forecast (True Sidereal Solar Return Human Design for Kylie) with Etai Nahary

What if your birthday wasn’t just a celebration - but a cosmic reset point?

In this episode, Kylie sits down with Etai Nahary for a live, unscripted True Sidereal Human Design Solar Return reading for Kylie just before her 51st birthday - a deep dive into the energetic themes or "cosmic weather" shaping the year ahead.

Together, they explore what a solar return actually is, how it differs from natal Human Design, and why these charts aren’t about prediction - but awareness, permission, and conscious navigation.

This conversation weaves Human Design, psychology, archetypes, and lived experience to unpack:

• What a Solar Return chart reveals about the themes of the coming year
• How transits overlay (but never replace) your natal design
• The difference between confirmation vs prescription in Human Design
• Burnout, power, rest, and discernment through the lens of defined vs undefined centres
• Emotional waves, expectations, and learning when to wait
• Identity, direction, and self-trust when the G Centre comes online
• Why clarity, mutation, leadership, and embodiment are front and centre right now

This episode is reflective, exploratory, and deeply human - less “here’s what will happen” and more “here’s what you’re invited to notice.”

A powerful listen for anyone curious about True Sidereal Human Design, life cycles, and how to move through a year with more self-trust and less force.  

About Etai Nahary
Etai offers Human Design explorations including natal charts, connection charts, life cycles, and intuitive deep-dives grounded in psychology, archetypes, and lived wisdom.

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Transcript

Etai Nahary: [00:00:00] Yes. This episode is a birthday gift in, in celebration of Kylie. So, 

so exciting. Thank 

you. And we decided to do this publicly because Why not?

Kylie Patchett: Welcome back, Etai. Um, now we just had a two part series all about your story and how you came to human design.

So if anyone has not met Etai, go back a couple of episodes and we'll put the links in the show note. And this episode is Etai again, showcasing his genius for human design and storytelling through the body graph. Has. Very, very generously offered to do me a solo return reading, which is very cool. So we thought we would record.

Etai Nahary: Yes. This episode is a birthday gift in, in celebration of Kylie. So, 

so exciting. Thank 

you. And we decided to do this publicly because Why not? 

Kylie Patchett: Why not? And it is something that you offer as one of your services. So we are like, you 

Etai Nahary: know what? Yes. Best, best case to 

Kylie Patchett: showcase 

Etai Nahary: it. And, and just as a, just as a, as a sort of a context or a disclaimer, we've been [00:01:00] talking off air for how long now?

Kylie Patchett: Two hours. 

Etai Nahary: Two hours about 

Kylie Patchett: all sorts of things. 

Etai Nahary: About all sorts of things. So if we're a little bit punch, if we're a little bit more punch drunk than normal, you'll understand why. 

Kylie Patchett: My God, that's such a good way of saying it. Yes. 

Etai Nahary: And and thank you for hanging in there with us. Hello everybody. 

Kylie Patchett: Sorry. Excited.

So we are recording this three days before my birthday, and I love the fact that like I have never had any sort of return anything reading through human design, and especially not through true human design. Mm-hmm. And when you suggested that that you offered me this gift, I was like, oh my goodness.

Yes. Because I always book in. Some sort of reading around my birthday, whether it's a tarot reading or an astrology reading or whatever. Um, but this is the first year that I have understood that I'm out of the closet, not the tropical design that I thought I was. 

Etai Nahary: Uh 

Kylie Patchett: [00:02:00] uh So we've we're coming out of the closet together.

Yes. 

Etai Nahary: So it's a beautiful thing and I'm, I'm honored to do this with you. It's, this is gonna be fun. This is gonna be lots and lots of fun. Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: So, do you wanna start with, um, what is a solar return chart? If you give us a kind of the cliff notes 

Etai Nahary: of that. Well, let's, let's talk about return charts in general.

Because there's a whole. What does it mean when we say return? Yes. Return to where? Return or what? What return? So in the case of a return chart, it's a return of a particular planet. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: To the same place position in the sky that it was when we were born. So this is why we can have, we can have any kind of return we want.

We can have a solar return. Yeah. We can have a Well, and we do have a solar return. Right. It, it's it means that every. Every year on one's, in this case, on one's birthday. 

Kylie Patchett: Yep. 

Etai Nahary: This, the sun goes back to the same [00:03:00] position in the sky astrologically. And it also means by the way, that it goes in back into the same gate.

Yes. And the same line. Line. And it was when you were born. Yes. And we know in your case, and let me see, can do I have it shared? 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Not yet. Do you wanna share now? 

Etai Nahary: Not, not yet. I'm going to share. I'm going to share, I'm going to share if I can figure out how to share 

Kylie Patchett: While you are doing that, I will just add in.

This is kind of like, um, while timing for me, because through the human design certification, I've never done like in any of the other, um, human design like training programs I've gone through. It's never. Been something that's come up about return charts. And I've only just done this module, so it's like fresh in my head.

So it's, it's good timing. 

Etai Nahary: Okay. Now, now let, let me know what can you see? 

Kylie Patchett: Uh, so we can see the top part of the body graph down to about Yeah that's perfect. 

Etai Nahary: I'm, I'm perfect. I'm going to minimize you. [00:04:00] Yes. Because otherwise I won't be able to see the entire chart, but I'm gonna trust that you are still there.

Kylie Patchett: Yep. I'm still here. I'm not 

Etai Nahary: disappearing. Okay, good. So what, where was, yeah, we were talking about, so returns in the case of a solar return now if we look, where's your birth? Aha. Your birth chart 

Kylie Patchett: Yep. 

Etai Nahary: Is on the 

Kylie Patchett: left hand 

Etai Nahary: side. Yeah. Left. Mm-hmm. On the left. And if we look at right. Tell me that everything is Yep, 

Kylie Patchett: yep.

Everything's there. That's perfect. 

Etai Nahary: Okay, good. We can see everything. Yeah. So, so if we look, if we look at your birth chart mm-hmm. At your natal chart Yes. Which is on the left. 

Kylie Patchett: Yep. 

Etai Nahary: We see, first of all, we see that you are a splenic manifester. This should be a chart that is familiar to everybody because we, we've looked at this in our last episode together.

Kylie Patchett: We did. 

Etai Nahary: So this is that chart on the left is the [00:05:00] position of things when you are actually, when you actually graced us with your presence and blessed us with your presence in the world 

Kylie Patchett: When I 

Etai Nahary: arrived 

Kylie Patchett: into my skin suit. Yes. 

Etai Nahary: When, when you arrived. Yes. And then with all the energies that you arrived with and so forth.

Mm-hmm. Right? So that, that's your natal chart. Now, if you look please at your, let's deal with the, with the chart in the middle 

Kylie Patchett: mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: Later. But if you look at the one on the right mm-hmm. At the far right, you'll see also that the, and, and you'll notice by the way, in your natal chart that you have your conscious sun.

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: It's a 58.6. 

Kylie Patchett: Yep. 

Etai Nahary: The, the, the, the conscious earth it's programming partner is a 52.6, which gives you, by the way, your conscious six line as we know, right? 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: So if you look here at the, at the right hand most chart, you'll see Miracle of [00:06:00] Miracles that. On your birth yeah. On your birthday.

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: The, the Sun Gate will be at 58.6 and the Earth Gate will be at 52.6. 

Kylie Patchett: I'm just, just, 

Etai Nahary: um, 

Kylie Patchett: I'm circling them like, just for anyone who is watching the video as it's talking, I'm actually pointing with the pointer so that 

Etai Nahary: Yeah. You 

Kylie Patchett: can kind of 

Etai Nahary: like, yeah, please, please do that because I good that you're doing that.

Good. So well, no, and, and, and this is and this is what we mean, right? When this, when, and that's a solar return. The sun and the Earth have returned to the same position that it was when you were born, and we can see that if we are comparing those. Two charts on either side of the one in, of the one in the middle.

Mm-hmm. So, so, so, and like I said, you can, you can have solar returns every month we have a lunar return. Be because the moon goes through all all the gates 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: In 29 days. So you [00:07:00] can track your lunar return, you can track any planet here. You can track its return. Yes. And, and, and we do, you know, you track Uranus oppositions and returns mm-hmm.

CHONe returns again. And the return is a return to where it was at your. At the time of your physical arrival on this plane 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: At the time of your birth. Good. Yes. So that I think covers the idea of what is a return. Mm-hmm. And in this case, as I said, we're dealing with, we are dealing with a solar return.

Now, what is so interesting and why do we even do solar returns? Because we know that what's the big deal? That the solar the, the sun gates and the earth gates are at the same, the same place. So why is that so interesting? First of all, it's interesting because it's your birthday. We celebrate that.

Kylie Patchett: Yay. 

Etai Nahary: But, but which is very interesting to those, those of us who adore you and I, and I'm, and I'm happy, [00:08:00] I'm, I'm thrilled to count myself among them, right? Yes. Among these people. But why is it so interesting? Because if you'll notice, outside of the, the, the con, the, the, the identical sun and earth gates, which is what it's supposed to be.

You'll notice that the other that the other gates are different. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: Right. So look, for example, the one I like to look at most, uh, or the one that drew that, that most drew that I was most drawn to, or that most drew itself to me is for example, your mercury. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. I'm pointing at it on my birth chart side at the moment.

Etai Nahary: And on your birth chart it says what? 

Kylie Patchett: Uh, 6.2 and 61.4 for my conscious. 

Etai Nahary: Uh, 

Kylie Patchett: do you wanna to just talk about conscious side? Sorry, I should've checked that. 

Etai Nahary: Okay. So the, this is an inter the good question and it's an interesting question. 

Kylie Patchett: [00:09:00] Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: The way that we are generally taught and the way that Analena teaches uh, and the way that that, that traditional human design teaches one, generally we only look at, we only look at the, um, the conscious side. 

Kylie Patchett: Gotcha. Okay. 

Etai Nahary: But so 

Kylie Patchett: then the con Oh, sorry. You go, 

Etai Nahary: but Well, but we all know that we are rebels here. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. We're 

Etai Nahary: and we're, and we're very, very proud of being rebels here.

And, and I do it very intuitively and based on what, on what we are drawn to looking at. Yes. 

I'm going to break the rules here a little bit and tell you that if you are, if you happen to be drawn to something on the unconscious side, we can look at that too. Mm-hmm. But generally, traditionally, when you are looking at returns, you are only looking at the conscious side.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: And that's what, that, that's what Anna Elena will [00:10:00] teach. When we get to that in the in the 

Kylie Patchett: certification. 

Etai Nahary: Certification. Yeah. I can, I can speak English. Sometimes you can 

Kylie Patchett: speak so many languages your brain doesn't know what to 

Etai Nahary: put out 

Kylie Patchett: sometimes. 

Etai Nahary: Yeah. And, okay, so, 

Kylie Patchett: oh, sorry.

Etai Nahary: So that's what happens, that's what usually will happen when you, when you're looking at returns, at least with a, with human design chart, is, is we'll look at the conscious, but if you, if it happens to be that you're drawn to an unconscious gate, we can also look at that too.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: So if I look at your conscious Mercury when you were born 

Kylie Patchett: Yep. 61. 

Etai Nahary: You, we have the 60, the 61.4. 

Kylie Patchett: Yep. 

Etai Nahary: Which is a, which is an incredible gate. I love that gate. It's the gate of, of inspiration. It's where we get older. All the inspiration from, from the quantum field. But if you go and you look for example, at your mercury, uh, on your solar return charge, you'll notice it's a slightly different number there.[00:11:00] 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 38.6. 

Etai Nahary: Okay. 38.6. And, and what do we know? What do we know about Mercury? Again, 

Kylie Patchett: uh, we know it's about communication, 

Etai Nahary: right? And what do we know? Wonderful. And what do we know, please, about the gate 38. 

Kylie Patchett: 38 is, to me it always feels like knowing what to fight for. So if I got that right, it's the 38, which is the, the, 

Etai Nahary: yeah.

Kylie Patchett: Is it the res in traditional human design? 

Etai Nahary: It, it's, it's, it's the shadow of struggle. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: And the gift of, of of perseverance. 

Kylie Patchett: Yep. 

Etai Nahary: So it's, it's, right. It's basically, it's knowing what to fight for. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: And because it's in, because it's in Mercury. That tells me that it's quite possible that as a theme for the next year, because that's what, that's really what a solar return chart does.

Is it, it, it gives us. Themes [00:12:00] that we might want to, again, we are not, we are not, we are very careful not to be prescriptive about this. Yes. And those of you who've watched, those of you who've been patient enough to listen to me emron about this for, for two episodes, will know that this should be my middle name already.

Not prescriptive, this is not prescriptive that this is only what, this is only what feels best and what works, right? 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: This should at, at its best it should confirm things, but on offer here, the chart is, is offering you the, the invitation. Mm-hmm. And I, as a projector, love invitations.

Kylie Patchett: Yes, you do. 

Etai Nahary: Right? It, it's offering you the invitation to, to contemplate the idea that for the next year. When you communicate mm-hmm. Consciously about, you're gonna communicate about things, about, about what's worth fighting for, what's valuable enough to fight for, what do you want to stand up for?

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: What do [00:13:00] you Venus happens to be our gate of values, but when I, when I think about the 38 it's what's worth, what's worth struggling with, struggling for. This 

Kylie Patchett: is what I just noticed too, that that 38.6 is where my mercury and my Venus for my solar return year is, which is 

Etai Nahary: interesting in 

Kylie Patchett: itself.

Etai Nahary: So you, so you now understand why I was so drawn to the 38. Yes. Because not only is it, and, and thank you for pointing it out, because I, I, I would've seen it eventually, but with my eyes, you never know. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes, I know. Yeah. Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: But, but it's, and it, it's, of course not. It, it, it is no coincidence and not a mistake by any s stretch or anybody's imagination, because the universe is just too intelligent for that.

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: Right That, that both your Mercury and your Venus are in the 38. 

Kylie Patchett: That's very cool. I'm familiar with this gate because at one iteration of the true Cerial, when we were doing manual SVP calculations, [00:14:00] it was actually in my incarnation cross 

Etai Nahary: uhhuh, 

Kylie Patchett: and I really, really related to the whole concept of gate of struggle and fighting for everything versus in the shadow versus almost this discernment of like knowing what you wanna put your will and attention and effort towards fighting for that matters, not just to fight.

Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: Like not, 

Kylie Patchett: not just to fight against everything, to rail against the world, which I definitely felt. You know, I had a very strong fighter in me as a youngster because I was always trying to prove myself. Right. Whereas this feels like leadership energy and it's so in alignment with what is coming through for my business this year of like being of example.

Of course it is. Yeah. Being the example of not this awful coaches, coaching coaches to coach coaches, wanker, themm that we see in a lot of spaces on the internet, but actually talking about sovereignty [00:15:00] and empowerment and individuation and running your business aligned to your values and what's important to you.

Like that actually really excites me to know that that's a theme, because I'm like, Ooh, this feels like right on top. 

Etai Nahary: And that's, and and that's a double theme, and it's right on time. Yeah. Notice, notice also that they're both in the sixth line. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: What do we know about, what do we know about the sixth line 

Kylie Patchett: role modeling teaching.

Thank, and I've just, 

Etai Nahary: thank 

Kylie Patchett: you. Gone past my Chiron return, so this year I turned 51. My Chiron return was, well, 

Etai Nahary: I, it and again, I happen to think that the energy of the Chiron return 

Kylie Patchett: is still 

Etai Nahary: around, is a thing I've mentioned in the last the, the last time we played together. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: That the energy of, energy is, is more fluid than, than that.

And it, it's, it'll hang around for a bit. Yes. And so I think it's the, uh, my sense is that you're still in there. Yeah. So the fact that that and you are conscious six line anyway in your profile. So this, this six line energy, [00:16:00] uh, and, and you're really coming into that 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Really flowering into the, into that six line role 

Kylie Patchett: mm-hmm.

Etai Nahary: Around this time, which is exactly what you're meant to do. Exactly what you're Yes. Designed to do. So that six line energy should be very, very familiar. And you say it's aligned very much with what, with what you're doing with the energy of your business right now. Yeah. So 

Kylie Patchett: yeah, 

Etai Nahary: it makes a lot of sense.

So we are looking basically at the when we look at, in, in this case, when we look at the solar Richter, like I said, the solar gates the sun gate and the earth gates are gonna be the same. Because it's a return. But what's interesting is every gate other every other gate, because the gates from your na are gonna be different.

And the gate the themes of this year, you know, that, that you are invited to explore, invited to live out consciously, because it, because looking at a chart is really about making the unconscious conscious, as Yung said. Yeah. It's, it's a wonderful tool. [00:17:00] And, and we know that Yung always talked about making the unconscious conscious.

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: This is one of the best tools that I know. One of the reasons I love it so much. One of the best tools that I know of making the, the unconscious conscious. 

Kylie Patchett: So good. Itai, I think we should, um, pause to explain as well, because we're talking about solar return, the sun and the earth, which are like the earth is in opposition to the sun.

So when the sun is right back in the gate, by definition the earth must be as well, the, 

Etai Nahary: the reason. Well, yeah. And, and, and there, there are oppositions in the wheel. Do you want, 

Kylie Patchett: it's okay. I think it's enough to say it's enough to say, I think in opposition, because what I wanted to kind of draw out from you is the other gates are different because the other gates take longer in time to come all the way around in a cycle.

So some of the slower moving planets are, you know, 

Etai Nahary: well some of, some of them take longer. Some of them, you know, take 

Kylie Patchett: shorter. Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: The, the moon as we know is a, is a, is the fastest moving 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. [00:18:00] 

Etai Nahary: Uh, body in the sky, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The moon will actually go through, uh, and, and, and put, put your seatbelt on here.

The moon actually goes through two or three gates. 

Kylie Patchett: Everybody 

Etai Nahary: now that now in, in stellar terms. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: That is. Very, very, very fast. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Pluto is is a generational planet, right? 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Uh, the, the, the slow movers a Jupiter return, for example, takes 12 years or so. Yes. Yeah. So each of these planets have their own orbits and, and, and, and, and have in, in their own, you know, quote unquote time, whatever time means.

Mm-hmm. And clock time, as likes to say. But yeah, each of these planets, each of these planets are in a different place because they're in a different [00:19:00] position of their own cycle within a given year, right? 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Yeah, yeah. Perfect. 

Etai Nahary: In other words, this what's on the right, what's, sorry, what's on the left is a snapshot of the sky when you were born.

All the planet of all the planets that are, that are written, and this is a snapshot of the sky of what, what will be the case on the th on, on, on your birthday this year. 

Kylie Patchett: Three days time. In three 

Etai Nahary: days time. Right, 

Kylie Patchett: exciting. 

Etai Nahary: So that's 

Kylie Patchett: very 

Etai Nahary: cool. Um, yeah. Yeah. And so, so the really interesting the really interesting things come in this case below the sun and the earth, because those don't, 

Kylie Patchett: yes.

Etai Nahary: You know, those don't j But again, if, if we look at, for example, uh, Uranus ret opposition or Uranus return 

Kylie Patchett: mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: Or Saturn returns in, in that instance the. Saturn will be in the same Saturn return, Saturn will be in [00:20:00] the same space as it was when you were born, right? Yes, yes. So what be, what becomes interesting, there is every other planet other than Saturn in, in a return chart. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. And can we also, um, I'm just thinking for people that are kind of newer to human design, and I will count myself in that bucket with life cycles. Mm-hmm. What I think is important too, is we are not saying that your chart changes. What we're saying is that energy's influencing your chart for the next year or for the next whatever.

Like, whatever we are, looking at, um, 

Etai Nahary: well, in in, in this case it's for the next year. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. For the next year. Um, 

Etai Nahary: because it, because it's a solar return. Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: And so we are saying it's an influence. So it's almost like, I wanna say like it's the weather for the next year. 

Etai Nahary: Almost Very good.

Very, very, yeah. Correct. In other words, and we, we've talked up to this point about, about the charts. On both ends, right? 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: We've talked about the chart, your, your birth chart, which is on the [00:21:00] left. And you, the, and the solar, uh, return chart, which is on, on the right. On the right.

Mm-hmm. What we haven't discussed is this one, is this elephant in the room, this thing in the middle. Now this thing in the middle, for those of you who know, who are familiar with the way that that, uh, genetic matrix likes to color code these things, and it's a yeah's a feature in genetic matrix that that, that's just an easy reference.

Blue happens to be manifester. This red that's in the middle happens to be mangen. Project. 

Kylie Patchett: Oh, 

Etai Nahary: projector happened to, I just 

Kylie Patchett: think he was generator. But of course it's a mangen. Yes. 

Etai Nahary: It's a man, it's a mangen. Generators happen to be orange. 

Kylie Patchett: Orange. 

Etai Nahary: And again. This is a feature. Yeah. This is sort of a, and that's why I like to keep it there, so I know.

And I mean, I'm, I'm basically, I'm cheating. Sorry. That's alright. You know it just at a very quick glance. I know what you [00:22:00] know mm-hmm. What archetype I'm looking at. Yes. So, so the, the blue is a manifester, this red is a man gen. I the, and again, this is only engine genetic matrix.

Yes. And you can only, you can only get it if you, if you have the pro version. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Orange I think is a generator. Pure green is 

Kylie Patchett: projector, green 

Etai Nahary: is a projector. And purple. Is the reflector. 

Kylie Patchett: Ah, well, I've never seen a reflector chart with a, through a client or anything, so there you go. 

Etai Nahary: Yeah. Those, those are, those are a little bit rare.

Very rare. I mean, we can rare we can work, we can look at those on during another, another installment if you'd like. Because those are, those have their own, their own uniqueness the reflector anyway, but so very, very important to know to to emphasize here. Yes.

And we've, and I've mentioned this before, uh, for those of you who have a good memory mm-hmm. Is that just because what we are looking at in the middle here [00:23:00] says that Kylie for the year looks like a mangen. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: And might feel like a mangen might experience the energy of a mangen. Does not mean.

Does not mean that you, that she is in, that she for the year has changed her archetype. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: She is a manifester. Yeah. She is here to teach us the things that the manifester archetype is here to teach us. And what is the manifester archetype here to teach us please? 

Kylie Patchett: Barking, initiating, catalyzing, um, beginning waking people up often feels quite penetrating if you're not ready for them.

Etai Nahary: Quite, quite shocking. Yes. Okay. Now at, you know, that, that at your core is is what you to the degree that we, and I hate this because we're putting people in boxes again. Yes. Okay. Or not something I prefer not to do, but for the [00:24:00] purposes of this discussion, and please don't, I'm always, I'm always nervous to say this, but for the purposes of this sentence of the discussion, 

Kylie Patchett: yes, 

Etai Nahary: you are a manifester.

Ooh. It doesn't, it doesn't even feel good to feel I 

Kylie Patchett: know, I know. Let's say I'm manifesto archetype because that's 

Etai Nahary: okay. But for, okay. So, and so it, it, it just, because for this year, you are invited to delve into what it feels like to be a mangen. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: Doesn't mean that your core archetype changes.

Changes. Doesn't mean that doesn't mean that the core archetype of what it is that you're meant to teach us changes. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Right. Um, you are here, you are here to, to role model for us, not only because you're a six two, but also because you're a six two, you are here to role models for us. What it looks like and feels like and smells like and tastes like to be Kylie as manifesto archetype.[00:25:00] 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: But and that doesn't change. So what is this mangen thing doing here? 

Kylie Patchett: And actually my like, you know, we always talk about intuitive, like, you know, there's so much information in these charts and like you are, you just pulled out the Mercury and the Venus 'cause that's kind of where you were drawn.

The other thing that I'm really noticing that I wanna ask more about is the fact that I, the middle chart, when you combine the two is like every center's defined, which feels like a big difference to my Uhhuh 

Etai Nahary: birth chart, Uhhuh. 

Kylie Patchett: And please explain 

Etai Nahary: what? And that goes into how do we get this, because both of these charts in the middle sorry.

On the sides. 

Kylie Patchett: On the sides, yeah. 

Etai Nahary: They look like manifested charts. They're in blue. Yes. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: For, you know, for to, in order to oversimplify it. So what is this red thing doing there? That's an overlay of, [00:26:00] you know, you take, you take as your base. You take the natal chart, you overlay the energies of the transit 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah.

Etai Nahary: Of the solar transit, solar return card. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: And you get out of that, you get a manager with all the centers defined. Now tell me, please tell me, please and tell us, please. I have to prove that I can teach something. I 

Kylie Patchett: love that you always put me on the spot. 'cause I'm like, yes. Let's see how Well I've learned this.

Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Tell, tell us. Tell us, tell us please. Why is this a man? A, a, a man gen. In the middle. 

Kylie Patchett: Well, I mean, my initial reaction to that is because there's the 34 20, which is the only real manifesting generator channel. But also, 

Etai Nahary: thank you. Thank you very much. Yes. And, and, and that, that would've been the first place I go.

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Because the sacral center is defined and also there is a [00:27:00] motor connected to the throat. 

Etai Nahary: Yes. Either directly or indirectly in this case. Very, very directly. Very. And Elena and I are so proud of you. 

Kylie Patchett: I thank you. 

Etai Nahary: Very, very well done. Yay. Very well done. Many, many, many bonus points for your birthday.

Kylie Patchett: Thank you very much. 

Etai Nahary: Thank 

Kylie Patchett: you very much. 

Etai Nahary: Yay. This is how and why we have in front of us here in, in the middle there, a manage gen channel. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: It's not a manage channel. 

Kylie Patchett: Many gen chart, 

Etai Nahary: a 

Kylie Patchett: mangen chart, body, body graphs. 

Etai Nahary: Uh, uh, a body graph. And, and in this case, because again, because we overlay all of these things. Both, both the natal chart and the transit chart. That's, and, and that overlays all of, all of the energetic connections. That's what defines for us all nine centers. Mm-hmm. Now, this is very, this is very, very powerful being all nine centers defined, and for you, because I know you a little bit, 

Kylie Patchett: yes, 

Etai Nahary: I am.

I'm going to [00:28:00] in to invite you to be, to invite you to be very careful about something. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: What is it that I'm going to invite you to be particularly careful about? 

Kylie Patchett: I mean, I've talked about it on the web, the podcast before. I do have a tendency towards overworking, which we've talked about, Uhhuh, initial, initial discussions that we had on the podcast.

And also because I have that defined will, which is, you know, in the shadow a lot about proving and rah. Right. When I have access defined to do it, defined sacral definitely connected to that. Right. I could tip over into burnout 

Etai Nahary: you very, very, very easily. Yes. Very easily do that. So it's something that, that with, particularly with this chart, I would say, and particularly with what you know, you are working on and, and what, and what we've talked about and what we are consistently talking about. Yes. I would invite you, I mean, of course you are your own sovereign being. You do what you like. Yes. I'm not prescribing anything, God forbid. But [00:29:00] I would invite you to be very careful. You're going to feel like you can, like you can move heaven and earth.

Yes. And you can, you just have to, you have to be careful to, because all these things are going to be defined. Are defined. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. Right. 

Etai Nahary: So it's going to be very, very important for you to just. Be mindful. 

Kylie Patchett: Mindful, 

Etai Nahary: I mean, always be mindful, but with this, with this chart, it's burnout is, is very easily done.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. The other thing that I in my body, it feels like, um, and it's, it's interesting too because, you know, I, I don't believe that that it's the new year yet. I, I feel like we get into the new year in that kind of, I've always felt Yeah, that's gonna happen. 

Etai Nahary: That's gonna happen sometime in February.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. February 23rd for human design. But 

Etai Nahary: well for true or human design. Tropical, 

Kylie Patchett: yeah, true human design. It's 23rd 

Etai Nahary: tropical already thinks it's been there. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah, I know. Tropical is already called it and I'm like calling bullshit. [00:30:00] But anyway, that's fine. I think that, oh no, no. I think I have sensed in the last two weeks in particular this huge surge and I've talked to you about this, like, this surge of like.

Lots of change, lots of energy, lots of drive to shed skins, because we are going, I haven't talked about that yet on the podcast, and I'm not going to, but there's a big change coming up in our lives. I'm gonna keep that under my hat for a little while. Yes. Yeah. But because of this big change, there's been this big surge of like, cleaning out decluttering.

And I feel like I am being, I said to you the other day, like, I feel like I'm coming back to what my normal level of energy's been like. And that actually makes me have alarm bells in my head because I have burnt out before, multiple times in my life, particularly in my younger life. And so I am reiterating what you've just said from the chart of like, I really need to be careful of [00:31:00] not overdoing.

And also I feel like, um, a big, big lesson for me right at the moment is knowing when enough is enough. Like a knowing. And that's always, that's always been a lesson for you. Yes. Because, because in your na in your natal chart mm-hmm. You have an undefined, you have an undefined sacral. Undefined sacral.

Etai Nahary: Yeah. I wanted to make sure. But and the, the, the tendency of an undefined sacral in its challenging frequency. Is not knowing when enough is enough. 

Kylie Patchett: Do you know, the other thing that is really standing out to me as well, from this combination chart in the middle is that. There is still a large split there between defined head and ajna and defined everything else.

And I wonder 

Etai Nahary: Yes, there, yes, there is. And, and what does that mean, what you 

Kylie Patchett: say about that? Because I, 

Etai Nahary: I, I actually, I actually would like to know what you would say about that. Yeah. What does that mean? What does that mean to you? 

Kylie Patchett: I mean, it's not [00:32:00] unlike my natal chart 'cause there's a large split there as well and 

Etai Nahary: mm-hmm..

Kylie Patchett: What it can feel like is, 

Etai Nahary: yeah. What does, what does it feel, because I don't have a large split in my chart, so 

Kylie Patchett: yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Is tell me what does it feel like, 

Kylie Patchett: what it can feel like? Is that my head, my, my mental. Preoccupation and needing to be always in motion and making sense of things and having an internal dialogue with myself and thinking 58 things in 58 different ways and trying to figure things out and make sense of something and turn things around.

I can get very easily into that space and then I have to go, oh, hello. I have a body come back down here in my body. Oh, hello body. Now I'm feeling the world. Now I'm sensing the world. And I think that actually combines, my sense is that combines to the not knowing when enough's enough because I've got this.

Lots of pressure or lots of conation [00:33:00] analysis stuff going on up here. And sometimes I don't even sense what my body needs. Like, I can often, like, I will sprint across my backyard 'cause my office is in my backyard, sprint across the backyard. I'm lucky just about to wet myself because I haven't realized that I need to go to the toilet.

Like, I, you know, so, 

Etai Nahary: and that, that happened to us here, you know? Yes, it 

Kylie Patchett: did 

Etai Nahary: earlier today. I'm glad you made it. I'm glad you made it to the toilet. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. So am I. Um, 

Etai Nahary: so yeah, you, you see this is what happens here. R you talk about human been design and the toilet. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Well, you know, it's ly functions.

Etai Nahary: It's all, it's, you see, we we're all inclusive here. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. And you know, the other thing is too, I. I mean, I feel like this is another reason why I absolutely love voice noting with friends like you voice coaching with clients because it is really helpful for me to be in conversation, to get clear on what is [00:34:00] actually true for me out of all of this stuff going around in my head.

Because I don't often know how I feel or what the right next step is unless I'm actually verbally processing and coming to my own conclusion. Um, and, and often like responding, which is, you know, then we were talking before we started recording about like, I really hard relate to generation generator, like responding.

Like you asked me a question, I can tell you, but if you just said, you know, tell me about this experience, it wouldn't be as easy for me. To actually tell you because it's not in response. Well, I suppose 

Etai Nahary: that's in response, but, you know, and, and May, and I don't know if this is the right place to talk about, I mean, this is more theoretical, but the difference between the practical difference 

Kylie Patchett: Yes.

Etai Nahary: Between responding and waiting for the invitation. But 

Kylie Patchett: yes, 

Etai Nahary: maybe, that I feel like is something we can do. 

Kylie Patchett: That might be another, like what is the difference between being in response and waiting to be 

Etai Nahary: in invited because Yeah. And, and [00:35:00] I'm, and I'm still working with that even though Elena and other people have explained it up to Wazo and 

Kylie Patchett: Yes.

Etai Nahary: Like I said I think that feels to me like another podcast Yes. Or another install installment. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: We will, we will address that. I feel just not here, but what I do. What because it's important. I mean, the, the way that each archetype engages with the world Yes. 

Kylie Patchett: Is. 

Etai Nahary: Is unique and important and very, very necessary.

Yes. And that's why I think it deserves its own, it deserves its own space. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: You know? Yes. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. A hundred percent. 

Etai Nahary: We will, we will address that. I hope in the future 

Kylie Patchett: we will. 

Etai Nahary: Somewhere 

Kylie Patchett: That's another episode, another installment of explanations. 

Etai Nahary: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but I just before we le and, and thank you so much for that, that brilliant taking us into your world and what does it feel like for you to, you know, to live this mm-hmm.[00:36:00] 

This large split, because as I say I have a single definition. For me, it's very, very different For me, it's, it's immediate. I know it now, and yes, I know it in the moment. I know it now. And for me thinking about it and that, that doesn't, I. As a, as a single definition splenic projector. Mm-hmm. With a 2057.

That's not my experience of life. 

Kylie Patchett: No. 

Etai Nahary: At all. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. It's interesting. 

Etai Nahary: Yeah. And all so it, it's very interesting. Now, now why are we even talking about, why are we even talking about splits? In other words, it might be interesting. I mean, you've, you've beautifully shared what is the experience for you?

Of of, of having a large, of large split, 

Kylie Patchett: yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Of living a large split. Mm-hmm. But what is a split in other words, and why are we even talking about it? 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. So the way that I understand the way that I explain it when I'm doing readings is that if you think about the centers as these, [00:37:00] like, now I'm going to miss my explanation.

The centers are like. Centers of energy, and they can be either connected or not connected to other centers. Mm-hmm. And if they're connected in one, they're called a single. And it kind of is like everything flows together. You don't really need outside in, 

Etai Nahary: in one, in one, in one, in one continuous circuit or 

Kylie Patchett: one continuous circuit flow.

Yeah. Whereas a split, which can be small or large, so large, is when you need more than two gates or more than one gate to close the split. So connecting to 

Etai Nahary: it, it, it, it can either be small or large, is also triple or quadruple. That would, 

Kylie Patchett: yes. And so when we are talking about splits, like it can be, yeah, 2, 3, 4, whatever splits.

But it's basically saying there's like a group of energy here and then a group of energy here. But those two areas don't necessarily, well, they don't talk to one another. So sometimes not, 

Etai Nahary: not, not easily. No, not easily. 

Kylie Patchett: And, and my [00:38:00] experience and what I hear, I've got a client who's a quad split. 

Etai Nahary: Oh, good God.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Yeah. Her experience is that it can, the literally the way she explained it is it feels like there's multiple needs, wants, desires, pulling me in different directions. Like I'm on a stretching rack and I'm like, that does not sound pleasant. 

Etai Nahary: Well, that does not, that does not sound pleasant. That it doesn't sound comfortable.

Kylie Patchett: No, not at all. 

Etai Nahary: So, so in, in practice, what this, what this means in practice is that, generally speaking we, we, we talk about splits in terms of decision making. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: How, usually it takes people with large splits. Well with splits of any kind. But the more, the more the more centers you we have that are operating independently of each other Yes.

In other words that are not connected. Uh, within, within a given chart, the more time it takes the, the system [00:39:00] to process through a decision. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: So you as a large split are going maybe to have, to take more time to, to reach a decision. Then I would as a single definition. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. See it, it's interesting because I would say maybe for small decisions, the splenic authority I have definitely speaks in the moment, but for bigger decisions like where to live or, you know, whatever it takes 

Etai Nahary: or what, what trip to take or 

Kylie Patchett: Yes, exactly.

It takes me speaking it out loud so that I can hear what I need, want and desire with someone else. And it's not that I'm looking for their input necessarily. I'm looking as almost like a sounding board to come to my own truth. 

Etai Nahary: Yeah. And that and, and that need to speak out or, or hear yourself speak 

Kylie Patchett: mm-hmm.

Etai Nahary: Comes from the fact that. Both in [00:40:00] your natal chart 

Kylie Patchett: mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: As well as by the way, in this solar return chart Yes. Your head, your ajna Yes. And your throat are connected. One to the other one, 

Kylie Patchett: Uhhuh, 

Etai Nahary: generally speaking, when, when either the head, the, when either the, the when those three centers are somehow connected to each other.

Kylie Patchett: Oh, 

Etai Nahary: on top of 

Kylie Patchett: my head and ajna aren't connected to my throat. That's where the split is. 

Etai Nahary: No, no. But, but I'm talking about Yeah, I know, but I'm talking about, oh, this one, two. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Gotcha. 

Etai Nahary: In, in, in, in this particular, no. Oh, I, 

Kylie Patchett: yeah, no, all three of them have, 

Etai Nahary: right? 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: But in, see, but in that, in, in that configuration where, where the head and the are connected and then the throat is connect, the need to talk.

The need to hear oneself speak. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: Is, is common, right? Yes. And I see obviously that that the head [00:41:00] is, that the head and are not connected to this road. But when there is that activation, 

Kylie Patchett: yes. 

Etai Nahary: In other words, when, when, when the centers are colored in, however they're colored in the head, the, and, and the throat the need to talk and to mm-hmm.

To hear yourself process ideas out loud are, is possible and, and even I would say common. Right? 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. It's very helpful. Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Now what we now just because we, we are looking at, we're looking at your solar return, but when you are in oral with somebody else, and we, I think we've talked about this before, and depending on the chart, it could very well be like, I have a, a one, A channel, right?

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Which 

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Etai Nahary: so when, when we come together, you know, the head and the ar and the throat are, are all connected too. So we, all of us, both of us together, have this need to talk. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Yeah, 

Etai Nahary: yeah. To hear to hear us. Those process, which is why [00:42:00] we end up spending hours and hours, hours on 

Kylie Patchett: it. 

Etai Nahary: But, but I mean this is, this is fun and, but this is how we process things.

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: So it's so this need to, this need to process like this happen, can happen more again, can also happen with undefined answer. My, my head is, is. Is completely my head and arms are completely open. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: But when I come together with you, I get all the all sorts of ideas and things. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah, yeah, yeah, 

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Kylie Patchett: And I love, I love talking to you because you are always like, to me, this is a perfect example of the wisdom of an undefined center because you are able to see things from many, many, many different perspectives and inspirations. So that's actually really helpful to see. 'cause I can get quite fixed in my head of like the over, over, over, over, over processing.

Whereas yeah, I don't know. You've got like an innate curiosity [00:43:00] with that openness that I feel like. And we were talking about like, um, I'm reminded of a, a episode that I did a little while ago with, um, TJ and Bailey from the Playful Revolution. We were talking about this. 

Etai Nahary: Mm-hmm. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. Um, the other day, it is like there's a such a thing as intellectual play, and that is one of the reasons why we enjoy each other's company, because we can philosophically and intellectually kind of bounce ideas off one another and turn things around and ask questions.

Right. And go like, I don't fucking know. Like, 

Etai Nahary: well have, have you looked at it like this? And what, what happens if you turn it around like that? Yeah. Yes. Exactly. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. So that's really true. 

Etai Nahary: And that, and I mean, it's, it's very interesting because it used to be that my openness in my used to drive me insane.

Really? Because, because if you don't, if you don't realize that's how you design and that's how you're meant, how it's meant to be. Yes. And holding and holding multiple perspectives [00:44:00] and, and being able to contain the both end. Because the culture expects us to 

Kylie Patchett: have 

Etai Nahary: the answer 

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Etai Nahary: to have answers, immediately answers.

You know, you, you, you have it, you have a, a head and al that are defined, especially with that 61 24 you are gonna have answers. You're gonna have definite answers. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: That's how you are designed. Mm-hmm. You're gonna have in the moment inspiration. I, I know. Yes. I, I see, I, open headed is meant to hold multiple things.

I, before I realized that, and before I, I, I mean, I've been working on it for years, but it took me a very long time to, to see that as a, as a strength. Right. Because it, because all these ideas is, what am I supposed which, which rabbit hole am I supposed to follow? 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. And this is why I find human design so delicious because it is so often, and again, we don't wanna say prescriptive, we don't wanna say [00:45:00] that's the reason why, whatever.

Mm-hmm. But when you can look at a chat and understand 

Etai Nahary: it's one, it's one, one possible story we can tell 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. One possible story. But also yeah, not everyone to me, the genius of human design is not everyone is designed the same. So being inside of any system where it, everyone is told, they have to know, they need to know right in the minute, they need to do it this way, they need to think it that way.

They need to live that way is just ridiculous because we are all individuals with different energetics, different flows, different values, and. That to me is the gift of human design. It's like, maybe this is just the way I'm designed, like maybe I can give myself permission. 

Etai Nahary: One of the, yeah, one of the gifts for sure.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Yeah. I really like that. 

Etai Nahary: One of the gifts for sure. And, and so again, it, thi this energy, these energies can be experienced and I think our discussion here has really, I hope, highlighted how [00:46:00] these energies can be experienced so differently, not only by individual people, because this is after all the signs of differentiation.

We are meant all to be different, right? Yes. Another thing you'll hear me say over and over and over again, and I'll never get tired of saying it, but when two uniquenesses 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Like Kylie and myself and each and every one of you come together in Aura. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Then, then the expression of all of these energies is going to be equally unique.

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: And, and, and, and that's the magic or that's, that's some of the magic now. And 

Kylie Patchett: that's kind of like to me, when, when you say like, when you meet someone new and, and like you really, vibe with them is the kind of what the language that 

Etai Nahary: the current, the current, the current en vogue language is vibe.

Kylie Patchett: Vibe, yeah. Vibe with them or you resonate with them. But then sometimes you meet someone and you're like not really my cup of tea. And it's not a judgment on them [00:47:00] necessarily. It's just like, I don't feel good in the per presence of this energy, whatever. And that can be for many different reasons, but 

Etai Nahary: Yeah.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Yeah. To me that makes sense as well. And it also makes sense to me business wise, why, like when I look at client charts, there is so often, similar themes or similar threads. And that's because I'm unapologetic in how I market and talk about what I do. And so the people that are in resonance are going to, to a certain extent, not, I'm not saying they're all the same, but to a certain extent I explicitly market to disruptors, rebels and revolutionaries for this reason.

Mm-hmm. Like most of them have strong rebellion in their charts or like, not rebellion, but, you know, pattern breaking, shifting collectives, et cetera. 

Etai Nahary: And one, one of the things that we might want to do, I mean, we've talked about giving, giving it, giving this giving each each archetype its own, you know, and mm-hmm.

And how it engages its own episode. One of the things that [00:48:00] we might want to do in, in another episode is look at our connection chart. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah, that would be cool. Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Because that will explain how you, how you and I, you and I connect and how and what, what energies you know, and how, how your energy and my energy, at least according to, to the chart 

Kylie Patchett: Yes.

Etai Nahary: Will work together. And then that might be interesting. That is another episode in and of itself 

Kylie Patchett: would be very cool. 

Etai Nahary: Uh, I mean we, we, we are coming up here with, with all these ideas. I know, right? And again, this is the wonderful thing about all this is that there's so much to explore and so much to know and so much to learn.

And you can look at a chart. I look at my own chart, Kyle, I'm sure you've had, you've had this experience too. You look at your own chart and all of a sudden, you, you're having, you're having a particular day or a particular issue. Oh my God, this is why this is, you know?

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Because, because all the time because of transit is this? Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, well, you are looking at the same chart, but all of a sudden something draws your attention. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Well, why, [00:49:00] why? Is it because, I don't know, for me, it's an invitation to delve into that energy. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah, 

Etai Nahary: exactly. More, or, 

Kylie Patchett: yeah.

And I, I, um, like, I love how you explained in the first couple of episodes too, like using the chart as a storytelling tool where you are kind of guided to go somewhere. And to me that's also why like getting, like downloading a free chart or whatever is great and, you know, everyone is always, always very much invited to do their own self-exploration.

'cause I think that's actually the best way to do it. And also it's, 

Etai Nahary: it's necessary on, on something. Yes. Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: Um. Also it it is correct. Or at least in my belief, it doesn't it, when you kind of download a plug and play report, it's almost like doing the same thing with astrology, right. The nuance of an actual intuitive human to actually help you draw out, understanding [00:50:00] or self recognition, self-compassion, um, through the lens of the chart is very different to a static report.

Because a static report is, it's looking at each piece separately and not necessarily the whole, which, you know 

Etai Nahary: what, and it's, it's, and it's also a snapshot. Yes. And it, and a snapshot will never as I don't care how good of a snapshot it is. Yes. A snapshot will never reflect the living, breathing experience.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Of, of a hundred percent of living our life. 

Kylie Patchett: So, yeah, so true. 

Etai Nahary: We're, we're moving, we're breathing, we are doing things, we're interacting with things. The world is, the world is coming at us. Plans change all the fucking time 

Kylie Patchett: You plan and life laughs in your face. 

Etai Nahary: Exactly. Which, which, which as a third line conscious, you would think I'd get used to.

I I'm not good. 

Kylie Patchett: I know, right? Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: You know. I know. But you know, so life happens. And again, it's a [00:51:00] snapshot. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes, 

Etai Nahary: indeed. So it's indeed, I mean, this is, again, it's a wonderful tool, but if it, if it starts to be prescriptive, if, if any of this doesn't resonate, leave it and take what does resonate now. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah.

A hundred percent. 

Etai Nahary: Yeah. Before we, close this out. Mm-hmm. Uh, there are two things I wanted to, to draw our attention to. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Um. And, and this is another first of all this will probably, this will help you hopefully on a, on a day-to-day mm-hmm. Uh, level, uh, navigate through this coming year.

You'll notice in your uh, in the middle chart and in a transit chart, you'll notice that you have as well you have one particular center there that I'm drawn to that you don't usually have defined. I 

Kylie Patchett: was gonna ask about this. I think you've taken me to the same place. [00:52:00] 

Etai Nahary: Go ahead and ask.

Kylie Patchett: I was gonna ask about the G center, 'cause that feels like a bug bear in my life. 

Etai Nahary: Well, that, that, that's an interesting, that's not where I was gonna go, but Oh no. 

Kylie Patchett: Will you go with your intuition? 

Etai Nahary: No, no, no, no, no, no. You, no. My, my purpose here is to guide you, so you are actually guiding us. 

Kylie Patchett: Okay. I, 

Etai Nahary: I'm just here.

I'll go where I go after this, but let's go to the G center. Yeah. I'm, I'm drawn there because I do feel often that I can, I mean, I think it's, it's linked to this overworking pattern as well. Like there's a, there's a self sacrifice or lack of self care or love that I relate to hard. Mm-hmm.

Kylie Patchett: With an open mm-hmm. And undefined G Center, but also this kind of feeling that's very, very common in my life of like, you know, I've had 17 different careers. I've moved all over the [00:53:00] world. I've done, and I often think. Geez, I wish I could just feel a little bit more stable in my sense of who I am in the world.

Etai Nahary: And so that's why I'm drawing it. And all, and all of these themes are themes of, you know, direction and self love. Yes. Are themes of the G Center. Now you are designed natally Yes. To, to have this undefined g, to be to know if an environment is right for you, only if you're there, right?

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: And by environment, I don't just mean a physical place, although I include that, but environment includes people. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Environment includes other energies. You'll only know that sort of in the moment, 

Kylie Patchett: right? Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Which is very helpful with your splenic authority in the moment. I know things Well, your G center helps there.

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: But this year, what happens here is that you are getting a taste. Possibly. Yeah. Of what it's like to, to, okay. I know where [00:54:00] I'm going. I, I, I have a sense of direction. That's, that's, I mean, we all have a sense of direction. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: But I'm, I'm aware of it. It's going to be fairly constant. I have constant access to it.

These are themes that, that are going, that are con, that are consciously there, that are fairly constant. Mm-hmm. And, and, and you get to explore those themes. Go to school, discover what, what is it like to have a defined G center? 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: What it like to have, this is exciting. A defined G center for the year.

Yeah. And, and, and then come back next year. You'll come back and report to us. Yeah. I'm already planning next year. I, I just told you, I, I just told you, I just told you not to plan. Right. Yeah. I know. Right. 

Kylie Patchett: And you never plan. So let's 

Etai Nahary: not 

Kylie Patchett: plan. 

Etai Nahary: But, but, but I, I can imagine you let, let's, let's phrase it like this.

I can imagine you coming back to us, uh, next year at your next solar return. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: And, and your, and, and your chart will look different because [00:55:00] it it because it will. And but reporting to us, what was it like to live with the, to live out this year with a theme of a def define, of these gates and, and a feeling of, of a defined G center.

Kylie Patchett: I'm looking forward to, and, and. When I was saying about this surge of energy with that surge of energy is really, really crystal clear clarity around what I'm moving forward with and what is not coming with me. Even with the, like the new website that I'm just about to launch. Mm-hmm. Like all of those things has been a discernment process with this real clarity.

It feels like, um, like if I'm talking traditional Chinese medicine, like a very metallic, like this is my direction and I know where I'm going and this is where very, 

Etai Nahary: very, yeah, very sharp, very clear. Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. And that is, um, a very new sensation to me. 'cause usually I would have 58 different ideas and I don't mean so much how it's going to [00:56:00] happen, I just mean the direction I'm meant to be going.

And it is a lot to do with claiming that, finally claiming the sixth line and the teacher and role model end of things as well, but knowing exactly what's space. And how to even talk about that and, and what, what that actually looks like and what needs to be created for that. All of those things. Yeah.

Feel very 

Etai Nahary: and again. Yeah. And beautiful. And again, these are all, you know, keynotes, themes of gifts of what of, you know, at least on paper in theory. A defined G center, right? 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: So all of this is, is is beautiful. 

Kylie Patchett: So new. 

Etai Nahary: Um, yeah. Where 

Kylie Patchett: were you drawn to? What were you gonna say? 

Etai Nahary: I, I was drawn to the defined ESP.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah, that's the other thing. 

Etai Nahary: And the reason I was def the reason I was drawn to the defined ESP is that [00:57:00] generally speaking, the recommendation is that when one has a defined ESP mm-hmm. When the ESP is defined, we wait. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: The wave until the wave Yeah. Is done. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: And then we start to make decisions.

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Now, generally speaking, you have an, uh, generally speaking in your nails sword. Yes. There, there is no generally speaking because every day no, because, because every day native 

Kylie Patchett: speaking 

Etai Nahary: every day the transit is different. So, you know, we never know. But, but natively speaking, that's a better way to put it.

Yeah. You haven't, you have an undefined yes. Plexus. So it means that you that you're, you're, you are absorbing and metabolizing, um, emotion, 

Kylie Patchett: lots of 

Etai Nahary: other people's 

Kylie Patchett: emotional stuff. 

Etai Nahary: Yes. Yeah. And, and that's still going to be the case, except that. For, for this year. The theme this year is you're going to feel like you are going [00:58:00] to have the, which one there?

No, the 35, 36. Which is all about and

Kylie Patchett: yeah, 

Etai Nahary: I know. Uh, so, so the 35, 36 and the 30 41. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Which is which are which, if I'm not mistaken, are both collective. 

Kylie Patchett: I'm pretty sure both. Yeah, because they're, oh, hang on. 

Etai Nahary: I, I believe they're both collective 

Kylie Patchett: ah, 

Etai Nahary: but 

Kylie Patchett: I don't know them well enough to know off my heart, 

Etai Nahary: right? Mm. But I, no, I, and I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong don't come for me.

But, but my recollection is that they're both collective, but what I do know is that they both behave in, in such a way that. These are both channel waves of expectations. Yes. Expectations ratchet up slowly. 

Kylie Patchett: Uhhuh 

Etai Nahary: it's like a, like a, a, a roller coaster, uhhuh or some kind of an amusement park ride where, you know, [00:59:00] I 

Kylie Patchett: hate rollercoasters eat eye.

Like I literally hate them. Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: I, I don't like them. I don't like them much either. I, I've never liked, I've never liked them much. But you, you, you're taken up slowly 

Kylie Patchett: uhhuh 

Etai Nahary: and then all of a sudden, and then all of a sudden boom, the all off the bottom, the bottom drops out of it. Mm-hmm. Based, based on disappointed expectations with Yeah.

And, and, but the 35, 36 is that kind of, kind of a wave as is the 41 30. 

Kylie Patchett: Interesting. 

Etai Nahary: Um, and you happen to have both of them, defined for the year, 

Kylie Patchett: just for a kind of a little bit of a backstory for people who aren't understanding what we're talking about. So there's channels that will tell us what sort of emotional wave that people have if there's definition there.

And some of them are much more gentle, a little bit of up, a little bit of down, a little bit of up. And some of them can be quite drastic up and down. So they've all got different kind of feels. Yeah. So this one, and that's good for [01:00:00] me to know because you know, the, as you're talking about expectations and, you know, falling off the cliff when they're not, um, when they're not met.

When they're not met to me the key there is to not have expectations. Right. So to be so entrust to 

Etai Nahary: do our, to do our best Yes. Not to have a Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: And that requires, and this is something that I'm being called to in many different areas, is having the self-trust to know that life will bring whatever life brings.

And I will respond. And as long as I don't stay too fixed in what I want to create. And to me this feels exciting. And even like my goal setting process this year, I was not masculine at all in my goal setting. I made a vision board based on feelings and places that I wanted to go. And everything else has got to do with encapsulating the feelings of wildness, freedom rest receivership, and that's it.

And I'm like, that is the opposite of [01:01:00] having expectations and hard and hard fast plan. 

Etai Nahary: And, and, and you know what you have in this case, I mean, you have for the year. Yeah. The 2030 the 2034, the only pure many gen channel. Many gen channel. Yeah. And the and it's, I I love the 34. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes.

Etai Nahary: Because it is the most primal. And power and powerful gait in the system. In other words, this is just motor to throat. It is not aware. It just act. 

Kylie Patchett: Yep. 

Etai Nahary: And this, this, not planning, this trusting this, whatever happens now and now, and I mean, this is perfectly designed this upcoming year for you.

And this is why I think this year is gonna be such a, such a gift for you and such a gift for all of us who experience you and, and get to share this year with you. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: And, and your genius because you, [01:02:00] because it's just a perfect I I look at it and say, yeah, you, you have everything you need and all the power is there and everything that you, everything that you are dreaming of.

The potential. I mean, the system is right there. 

Kylie Patchett: This is exciting. I feel 

Etai Nahary: the cont the container is right there and it's, it's all there for the taking. Yeah. And it, it's just, it. This is I look at this chart, I mean, I look at every chart and I think, oh my God, perfection. 

Kylie Patchett: You love all of them.

I know 

Etai Nahary: but hearing you and, and knowing you as I do. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: And knowing, knowing behind the scenes what, what is active within you and what excites you. And then looking at this chart, I'm thinking, of course, this chart so 

Kylie Patchett: cool. 

Etai Nahary: It, it couldn't be anything but this chart. 

Kylie Patchett: So cool. It's so affirming to hear this, and I'm reminded of, we had this conversation earlier this week when you said, you know, the most [01:03:00] primal, the word that jumped into my head is animalistic.

And we were talking about 

Etai Nahary: Exactly, exactly. 

Kylie Patchett: Earlier this week, I was saying to you, sometimes when I, um, go on shamanic journeys, the guide that turns up is this black puma. I'm guessing, I don't know my cats. Mm-hmm. But I'm assuming it's a puma 'cause it's black. Mm-hmm. And often when I start the journey is me inside of the body of the puma.

Like just stretching and just running and like 

Etai Nahary: luxuriating 

Kylie Patchett: in that feeling, the raw power and the beauty of being in this fluidity of motion. And, 

Etai Nahary: and that, and that is exactly the 34. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. And, and, and then I said to you, the other thing that this guide keeps on showing me is to be able to do that. It also requires being langu in the shade when there's nothing to chase and there's nothing to do.

And there's nothing to create because the pulse of life has not told you it's time to stretch. It's time to run, it's time to [01:04:00] create. It's trying to, it, it's time to use the power. And I think that is a very different feeling to wanting power, which has definitely been something that's been true for me in early life.

Like feeling powerless. Mm-hmm. Feeling outta choice, et cetera. And this feels like it's power, but it's with discernment of when to go. And when not to, when to lang languish on a beach, for instance, 

Etai Nahary: and when to languish in the shade and when to, when to go hunting. Right. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Yeah. And one more thing I want to just draw your attention to.

Mm-hmm. And this is meant to help you also. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: At the bottom there, you see there's a whole but under personal channels. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Right. This confused me when I looked at it because I want personal to be in birth, but it seems like they're back to front. 

Etai Nahary: Well, personal [01:05:00] channels are the channels that you have in your personal chart for this year.

Kylie Patchett: For this year. Birth, A combination. Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Birth channels are the channels that you're, that you were born. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot of channels, isn't it? 

Etai Nahary: You noticed 

Kylie Patchett: like, wow. 

Etai Nahary: Yeah. And. That's why I say powerhouse. But the reason that I want that I want to draw your attention to this list at the bottom.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: And I've sent you this chart so you have it. 

Kylie Patchett: Oh, good. Thank you. 

Etai Nahary: I, I sent it to you in, in, in WhatsApp. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes, yes, you did. 

Etai Nahary: But if, but if you need sort of the quick reference guide of the themes that you might want to explore in the coming year. These, the names of the channels, the names of every channel.

Not just the ones listed here. Mm-hmm. But for everybody, the names of the channels are a good way of, of sort of feeling 

a good sort of entryway into [01:06:00] contemplating what the energy of the channel might feel like to mm-hmm. For you. So you have here a quick reference of, well, what is what does charisma mean to you?

What is, you know, how does the channel, how is the channel of struggle coming up right in, in this moment? What is the channel of exploration or the alpha or the, the, all of these words when you, when, when you are sort of, needing, you feel the energy 

Kylie Patchett: of them. 

Etai Nahary: Yeah. Needing, needing direction, needing sort of a grounding.

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: Sort of, sort of a touch point. And I know how much you enjoy, you know, thinking about things as, as I do. Just, this is a wonderful, in, in my experience, sort of, you know, sort of the Cliff Notes version, if you want of, oh. I have in, you know, this year, uh, this career, you know, exploration is a, is a theme for me.

And, and how am I living that out? Or, you [01:07:00] know, how is the channel of the alpha, the a leadership channel coming out for me this year? So this is almost like a, like a quick notes version of the themes that you're invited to explore. 

Kylie Patchett: I feel like there is so many, and I think this is probably actually a good time to mention this too, is, is I feel reflection with the human design chart.

It's not meant to be like drinking from a fire hose. It's meant to be no. Being like exactly like Etai showed us today is like your attention being drawn to one particular thing. And if we're talking about those personal channels that are the kind of overarching themes, like where does my sense want to go?

And I think the one that's actually calling to me the most at the moment is that mutation channel, which is interesting. Uhhuh. And you know, the geneticist in me is always like, mutation is for evolution. Like, that's the connection there for me is like, okay, Uhhuh, I wanna feel into that and I want to, [01:08:00] you know, like, okay, so where is that connecting from into, and what does that actually like, what's the energy of that feel like?

And, and it's so interesting that looking at all of those words, so much of that has got to do with my plans for this year. It's not funny. So I'm definitely being led in the right direction. 

Etai Nahary: And again, this is another, another, you know, another instance of proof of concept on the fact that. These charts, whether they're astrology, whether in this case human design, they're meant to confirm Yes.

Not to predict. Yes. And the reason that this is so powerful is because it's already confirming things that you already know Yes. And that you are already taking action on, and that you've known for a very long time. Yes. Now, this, all this is doing is it's giving you, it's giving your left brain something to Oh, 

Kylie Patchett: yeah, yeah.

Etai Nahary: Now it makes sense. Now I can play. Now I'm, now I can calm down and let the rest of it [01:09:00] just be, 

Kylie Patchett: well, do you know what the biggest thing I'm taking away? Like I'm taking many things away. The biggest thing I'm really hearing two things actually. First of all. Mm-hmm. The definition and the awareness of the burnout.

So that just says to me that all of these daily habits that I'm stacking at the moment that I'm recommitting to are gonna be incredibly important to have the mm-hmm. Foundations for making sure I'm actually aware of where my body is. And then the second thing is just, um, actually this, so many things, the G center and feeling into really, really noticing the difference between Yeah.

That openness that I usually have and the clarity. And also maybe there's an invitation there at the end of the year to be like, you know, it felt these parts of that definition felt really, really good and nourishing to me in my body. And maybe, maybe there's a shadow there too, like maybe something 

Etai Nahary: I, I you, you know, there's a shadow in every gain and Yeah, [01:10:00] of course.

And so that, that, that will come up and you'll get to learn. You'll get to learn and know those 

Kylie Patchett: Yes, 

Etai Nahary: uh, very well too. Throughout, throughout the, you know, throughout the year. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Yeah. And then the third thing definitely is that emotional solar plexus, because one of the things that I notice with my natal chart that my, my original design, that six gate, which is the only definition in my emotional solar plexus, I can very easily be in the shadow of that.

Mm-hmm. Which is about people pleasing and not confronting and doing things out of obligation and, you know, 'cause you sense a need in someone and fulfilling that need, like it's your job rather than leaving space for other people to do that. Like, I, 

Etai Nahary: well, the, the, the shadow of the six is conflict. 

Kylie Patchett: It's, yes.

Etai Nahary: It's about, it's, it's, you know, and that's interesting because the six and the 59, when that channel is, is together, that's a channel of mating. Yes. So it's a channel, it's, there's supposed to be a friction there, right? Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: That [01:11:00] six is, is. Naturally drawn in. Its in the, in the shadow frequency.

Mm-hmm. And I hate, or in the, that's why, and Elena doesn't use the word shadow or shadow, but the challenge in more challenge in the challenge space. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Of course. It'll be more drawn to conflict and, and to rubbing up against, and so, yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: Well, I think for me, the avoidance is that not wanting it to get into conflict, but letting it get to the stage where the only way for me to release the emotional tension is to then be like, like, you know, like avoiding conflict to please others and then letting it all out in unhealthy.

Etai Nahary: Right. And that is another common. Mm-hmm. Or can be another common presentation or expression, I don't wanna sound too clinical here. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Of, of, of, of the open or undefined. So Plexus. So we don't, and, and I can speak to this myself, I have a completely open. Who [01:12:00] and will do everything possible to avoid conflict like the bloody plague.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: And you and I have had, you've seen me enough now in, in, in conflict situations 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Or in situations that where, and I think, you know what I'm, yes. What I'm referring to here, but where, where conflict was just under the service there. 

Kylie Patchett: Mm-hmm. 

Etai Nahary: And I'll, I'll be honest with you, my, my first instinct is, oh, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm, I'm, I didn't mean it. I, you know, g go as far away as possible. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: Where, and, and that's common with an, with an open or undefined, uh, ESP. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah, totally is. 

Etai Nahary: I mean, goodness there's a lot here. And it's, I'm just, first of all, this is, I'm excited for you in this year.

Yay. Thank you. This year is gonna be a great year, and I'm just, I'm, [01:13:00] I'm thrilled that we were able to do this, uh, that, that this is a great way, and, and this is why I think it's important to do these ideally 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Before your birthday, which is, 

Kylie Patchett: yeah, three days time 

Etai Nahary: this Friday. So 

Kylie Patchett: yes, 

Etai Nahary: for those of you who are, who are listening to this you know, let's, wish Kylie a happy birthday, happy solo return.

Kylie Patchett: Thank you. Thank you. 

Etai Nahary: But, but it's so important, I think, to do them before. Yes. Because it gives us a sense of, okay. And again, to do it consciously 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Yes. 

Etai Nahary: To live our design consciously 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Is the greatest adventure that there is. 

Kylie Patchett: So cool. 

Etai Nahary: Just be aware of what of the possibilities of what's out there, of the potentials, of what's out there.

Kylie Patchett: So cool. So cool. 

Etai Nahary: And that's what the solar return, well, that's what any return can do, but it gives, it, it gives you a sense of, okay, so if I'm feeling like this maybe I look at the solar return trial again. Maybe I'm actually [01:14:00] designed to, to experience this thing this year. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Yeah. I'm really grateful to know about the emotional wave because of the fact that we are making huge changes this year.

Mm-hmm. So it kind of gives me an extra kind of heads up of like, Hey, just be careful to like, follow the feeling and let life lead you, but also be careful not to be setting. So high expectations that reality can't fulfill on them. Like 

Etai Nahary: I, I would, I, I mean, and again, word choice here is important. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes.

Etai Nahary: Because I, I want you to choose a word that is just enough to keep you conscious of it. Aware of it Yes. But doesn't put you in a 

Kylie Patchett: negative year 

Etai Nahary: in a position where you're, where you are gun shy to have experiences. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: Because this coming, this coming year is going to be a year full of experiences.

Yes. And, and I want you to, to, to really, [01:15:00] relish that Revel in them. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: And just, revel in them and be aware of all this. And, and, and this year is going to be, so rich for you on so many levels. And I'm just, I, I can't wait to hear all about it. 

Kylie Patchett: Exciting. And yes, thank you for the, thank you for the reminder, because this is not meant to be.

Yes. Warning, warning, warning. It's just stay 

Etai Nahary: mindful. No, this is, I'm, I'm, I don't wanna warn anybody off of anything. I, this is just, you know, again it's going back to the Jungian idea of making the unconscious conscious 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Etai Nahary: What, what, what we know we can at least choose how to engage with.

Yeah. If, if we don't know something, then it come and, I mean, if it's meant to come up and hit, hit us upside the head, it's meant to. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah, exactly. 

Etai Nahary: But I but I prefer things not to come up and hit. Yeah, 

Kylie Patchett: exactly. 

Etai Nahary: They don't have to. And the chart, the chart gives us a [01:16:00] tool not to do that. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. So 

Etai Nahary: good.

If, if we choose to use it that way. 

Kylie Patchett: Thank you so much. I feel like I've received the most beautiful gift and I really wanna just say to people like. The threads of this conversation is all about letting your intuition guide you. Not looking at this as a prescription, thinking about things in terms of archetypes and energy flow or energy weather if you wanna put it that way.

Weather, weather is a great term. Yeah. I like, I like weather 'cause it's like I can choose to be shitty about a stormy day or I can revel in the rain too. That's what it reminds me of. Um, and the thing is, the thing with weather is it shifts. Yes. It's not static. This 

too shall pass. This too shall pass.

Etai Nahary: Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: And if you're curious about your solar return, the beautiful Etai offers solar return readings and also other return readings. 

Etai Nahary: So I, I I do, I do indeed. Yes. Every return possible, we, we, anything you're interested in, uh, human design wise and, and, and so Good. Let's explore together and see [01:17:00] what we find.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. So good. So good. So we'll put links down below of where to find Etai Online. Thank you so 

Etai Nahary: much once again. That, that also is, that also that is in flux. We're we're, we're, we're working on it, we promise. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Um, 

Etai Nahary: Bo both Kylie and I are working on it, and I'm so grateful for your help. Yay. In this process.

My, we're all, we're all in evolving process that's constantly in motion. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Etai Nahary: And this is just, I, I'm excited to see what comes out of it. I'm excited, Kylie, for your, your upcoming year and all the adventures that you're gonna have. I wish you, I 

Kylie Patchett: feel like my soul is wagging its tail. 

Etai Nahary: I really, I wish you, I wish you a really, a happy, happy birthday.

Thanks. Wishing you all that you would wish for yourself in the coming year. Happy birthday. Many, many happy, healthy returns and much, much love. Always. 

Kylie Patchett: Thank you so much. Until next time, because we'll be back. 

Etai Nahary: We'll be back. 

Kylie Patchett: See [01:18:00] ya. 

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