S6E29: The 12th House, Superconscious Scripting & Living Untamed with Nic McDowall (Part One)

Nic MacDowall is an authentic astrologer working with the true visible sky. She translates your celestial blueprint through True Sidereal astrology and teaches how to consciously work with the 12th house - the layer of mind that does not respond to force.

The work we speak about in this episode centres around Superconscious Scripting: orienting your conscious awareness to what already exists beneath it, without pressure or performance.

In part one of this two part episode, we pull astrology out of abstraction and back into the actual sky above our heads.

We explore:
        •        Tropical vs True Sidereal - and why your chart may not have fully landed before
        •        The houses as the architecture of your life - identity, home, relationships, vocation, retreat
        •        Why the world feels too fast - and how that speed disconnects us from ourselves
        •        The 12th house as retreat, stillness and sacred withdrawal
        •        “I don’t have time” vs “I’m not prioritising myself”
        •        External authority vs embodied orientation

This is not astrology as prediction. It’s astrology as gateway to self connection and self mastery.
A remembering that your blueprint was never meant to box you in - it was meant to help you navigate.

👉 In Part 2, we shift into a direct conversation about the superconscious - what it is, how it functions and how to consciously work with it.

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The 12th Portal community for onoging guidance and community

Nic's website here 

Connect with Nic on instagram here

Herbal Charts - Discover your personalized herbal and spice recommendations based on your astrological birth chart that can energetically support you! 

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Transcript

VIDEO S6E29: The 12th House, Superconscious Scripting & Living Untamed with nic McDowall (Part One)

Good morning everyone. Welcome to the podcast. I have the beautiful Nic McDowall in the house. How are you, Nic? Hi. I am very well, thank you. Thank you so much for inviting me on. Excited to be here. I'm excited for this chat. Because you and I have known each other for a little while now, we kind of, our paths collided in the intuitive human design world.

But I think before that, I had already started following you on Instagram because you are, you know how we were just talking about how people just come into your path when they're meant to. So Yeah, exactly. You are the authentic astrologer on Instagram. Would you like to introduce yourself and what you do in the world?

Yeah, so I go by the authentic astrologer, and it's not to, you know, be like, oh, I'm the only authentic astrologer out there. But I chose that name because I look at the visible sky, right? So it's true Cerial, I reference the true visible sky, which to me is. Authentic, authentic astrology. Yes. And yeah, so I work with astrology.

I [00:01:00] read or translate people's natal natal charts. And I also do true cial human design. But absolutely my, my first passion is astrology. It's something, you know, I knew as a child that it was very, very interesting. You know, I would go into a bookstore and the only section you would find me in was the astrology section.

Ah, that's so cool. And I remember picking up my, my then tropical sun sign. Ah, yeah, yeah. The un inauthentic. Yes. Well, but interestingly, my, my tropical sun sign became my true c moon sign. Yes. So that's why that res the resonance is still there. It's not like your whole chart, you know, as you know, it doesn't change completely, but it just moves things around.

Yes. And I do realize, like, yeah, my inner consciousness and how I like, feel. Kind of privately or instinctively, you know, all the, and like what I, what I need from like a comfort, [00:02:00] security basis, which is all, you know, moon related stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is very much Capricorn. Yes. And not Aquarius, if anyone's wondering what it was.

So I very much resonate with the Capricorn energy still. Yeah. But but yeah, so I just remember as a child opening up a book and I'm like, oh my gosh, how does this book know me? You know? It's so fascinating, isn't it? Like I always think about like how we know as children, you know? So I'm, I, I, I often think like, just go back like, oh, I don't know what I wanna do with my life, or I don't know, I'm lost.

I know I don't wanna be doing this. I'm like, well, what was your childhood? Interesting passion, you know, because Yes, yes, yes. I just think we're just so much more open then. Yes, I was about to say that. It's before we taught not not to be who we actually are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. You know, I mean, 10 is like borderline.

'cause I, I mean, by then you've, you know, you've, I, I went to school obviously, you know, but yeah. But, but I, I, I obviously was conditioned [00:03:00] enough not to pursue astrology though. Yeah. You know, that's the thing. Like, I just kept it as like a passion and, you know just knowing maybe a little bit more than the average person, but not really deep diving.

Right. So yeah. It's amazing to me though, like, yeah. I will often say to clients like, what did you love to do as a kid? And so often, and I call it the golden thread, it's like this golden thread that leads you back to where you were always. You know, meant to be, or born to be, or whatever you're meant to be expressing in the world.

I just, I'm laughing at like, because I think that, you know, we are both very much status quo challenges as we Oh, yes. Conversations about that. Right. And you know, there's a part of me that rails at this like, you know, I particularly lately, like Neptune's moved into Aries, I'm like, it's not gonna be an air.

Yeah. In 2040. Yeah. A decades. Decades. And there's a part of me that wants to rail against it. And there's also a part of me that's like, [00:04:00] everything is meant to evolve and every evolution starts with the pioneers and the, you know, the paradigm shifters that begin it. Right? Yeah. So I'm grateful that our paths have crossed.

I'm so grateful and I, and I, and I totally hear you on, like, when I see those posts, there's something that really quite strongly rises up and I'm just like, oh. But I, but what's so interesting is being able to catch that and not react, right? It's like, how do I wanna respond here? I mean, sometimes I do, sometimes I get inspired and I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna jump on Instagram and I'm gonna talk about this Saturn, Neptune conjunction, you know?

And yeah. But, but it's, it's a choice, you know? It's just, it's not reactive anymore in that, in that same way. So, yeah. And, and yeah, we, yeah. I think too, for me, like you were saying, and this is for like, for anyone who doesn't understand the difference, Nic's got lots of information on her Instagram about this the difference between tropical and true sed.

'cause we don't wanna like that. We are here for something else. Yes, [00:05:00] exactly. We're here for something else. But I'll say my, my experience with, understanding a little bit, like I'm not astrology, like, you know, astrology is like a kind of second different language to me. I don't really get it. Yeah. Yeah. I love diving in, but it's not something that becomes naturally.

But I do notice, like I had such a resistance, like I've been an aquarium on my entire life, and there's something really cool about being an aquaquarium and, and I get it because, you know, Aquarius is the rebel, right? Yes. Oftentimes that's how it's described. Yeah. And that like humanitarian and the like, status quo challenging and whatever.

And I was sad, like, I'm like, I don't wanna be a Capricorn son. That sounds so boring, but only because this is, this sounds so awful. It's like I've got Capricorn, like anti Capricorn, like mindset or something. I used to work in a particular workplace where there was someone who I, I was like managing a team.

Yeah. And there's one particular person who was a real. Stickler. Yeah. And she used to [00:06:00] drive me insane. I used to have a lot of like moments in the toilet at work going, because I'm like, it doesn't freaking well matter. Like stop asking me. Because, you know, I'm more of a visionary, right? Like I'm more Yeah, yeah.

Clear than down in the weeds. And she was a Capricorn, so I, as soon as I was like, when I had my truth, oh, your mind immediately made that connection. She's awful because she's also a beautiful human being. But at that time of my own evolution, she used to trigger the fuck outta me anyway. Yeah. And also she's probably not right in the G.

Oh, exactly. Exactly. She's probably Sagittarian anyway. She's sag. Yeah. Which also then is Yeah, that's, that's an interesting, anyway, that's, that's, you know, this is, yeah, exactly. So this is the other thing that I just wanna mention, like, you know, talking about astrology is like, yes, the sun sign obviously is, is important.

I was gonna say yes, but we're not just our son. It's not the whole picture. It's not the whole picture. And you, you know, your son, your son could be making aspects, right? It could be contacting, speaking to another planet [00:07:00] that totally changes the changes, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I think, like when, but I have to say too, like it's been maybe a year since I came across the whole true cial mm-hmm.

Escape and excuse me. I have to say that over time I'm like, I can so understand that there is, I have a very strong Capricorn, like very, like, you just give me the destination and I'm just gonna put one here. I'm like a dog with a bone and I'm very determined and often at like a lack of selfcare, like I can definitely see.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But also as you said, like my, there's Aquarius all through my chart. Like there's other, there's other places Exactly. Aquarius that actually make even more sense. Yes. Yes. You, I wanted to come back to something that you said. So I think for me, when people say, oh, but I'm this. In like, just say sunshine.

Yeah. That's it. Yeah. It's like, that's like saying I'm a manifester. It's like the broadest bucket to put yourself in. Yeah. And it really doesn't give you any of the nuance, any of the [00:08:00] beauty of no energetics or anything. So it's like, let's stop talking about the, like the, the highest, like not highest, but you know, the, the least nuance of the Yeah, exactly.

Is to understand ourselves, because I feel like, like and I don't really understand the aspects and things, but when you get to that level of detail, then there's that recognition and the, and the self-compassion that can come from that of like, oh yeah, I understand why that might be a bit tricky, or I can understand why, you know, I've been resisting that in myself, but it's actually one of the things Exactly.

That is a genius zone. Right, exactly. And I mean, I'm sure there, you know, equally there are lots of people out there who are like, well, I don't really resonate with this generic. And that's, you know, and that has then led to them being like, Ugh, astrology is like, whatever. You know? But then it's like, well.

Yeah. Because it could have been from a different lens, but then also, you know, again, the aspect and Yes. And all of that plays in, so it's, it's, it's like, oh, it's so much deeper than that. I know, right. Don't, don't throw the system out with the bath water, please. Yeah. [00:09:00] Oh, dear. I wanna go back to what saying, as a child, like you are interested in astrology, what do you think captured you about it?

Like, was it the self understanding piece or the Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think so. I think with, you know, not being able to put it into words as a 10-year-old yes. But now when I'm reflecting, like, what was it that just went, Ooh, that made me kind of sit up and pay attention, right? Yes. And I really think it was just like re like, it felt like I was reading about myself.

Yeah. You know? And I'm like, how does this book know? And what is it Capricorn like? You know what I mean? Yes, yes, yes. Tell me that. And I, and I have somewhere also had like an sort of an interest for like. Symbols and symbolism. Yes. You know, like you know, because every sign has its glyph, you know, it's like, Ooh, what gly am I kind of, you know, that kind of that's a bit more, I don't know how to, how to describe it, but like, you know, you just, if you see it, you know, you're like, ah, that's, yeah.

There's a recognition. Yeah, there's a recognition, right? [00:10:00] Mm-hmm. So I kind of liked all of that, but, but yeah, so I think it really was without knowing really as a 10-year-old, it was Wow. A tool for self understanding. Yes. Yes. And I think too, like I know that you also help people understand their kids through their charts as well.

Yes. I'm like, when I first like, went back into human design after being exposed to tropical, after doing two like certifications, but more self-study things, and I still wasn't, like it was all up here, but not in my body. Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah. I was like, just don't. I'm like trying to understand something. And then when I actually started to really get it from a, like reading the chart through an energetic lens, not mm-hmm.

Not like a, like this channel equals that. Like a Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Like from an this equals that kind of thing. Yeah, exactly. I was like, this should be parenting 1 0 1, partnering 1 0 1, self understanding 1 0 1, because I'm like it. And I think the thing that really has, like, it's such a funny full [00:11:00] circle moment because as a geneticist, like one I loved about genetics was, is literally the science of individuation.

Like every single person is different, even if you're a identical twin, like epigenetically. Yeah. And so, because I'm always like, I remember when IF when I first started coaching and if like I was working with someone who had like a real self-worth thing or something, I'm like, do you know how miraculous it is that you're actually here?

Yeah, like that, that every single biological process, everything single, like your parents had to meet that like the conception had to work. But also even since then, every single thing that had to happen to just get you onto this plane is a miracle. Yeah, I know. I know. It's literally a miracle. I know there's like not almost 9 billion of us, which might sound seem like it's not miraculous, but it bloody well is.

Yeah. Yeah. And then, then also when I discovered like the depth of human design, the way that I'm starting to understand it, I'm like, this is the answer to relationship conflict. [00:12:00] Yeah. Even the fucking power plays in bullshit that go on in the world, like everything to me, can be accepted through an energetics lens and a power differential and how we, we, we hold certain individuals higher than others.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Of oppression. Right. Totally. And that's totally actually something that I like. You know, I just did an example with the Capricorn thing. I hate how. In some astrology circles and some human design circles, it's like there's better signs and better than others types. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Know. I know.

I can't, I can't stand that. It's very click Beatty too, like, you know. Oh. Which is a, and I, I think I actually did a post about it weeks, months ago now. Yeah. Because it was last year. And it was you know, yeah. Which are the best and the worst signs, you know? Yeah. And I knew people would probably be like, I'm like, spoiler, there aren't any.

Yeah, exactly. And we've all got everything. Anyway. This is, that's the thing. That's the thing. And I will, and I've, I've, I've actually, I've often spoken about Virgo. Yeah. Because some poor reason. Right. Or like, or not poor reason, but for some reason [00:13:00] poor Virgo, rather. Get such a bad rap, you know, I get it.

Two tropical Virgo daughters, oh, we're not Virgo. Anyway, whatever. And I totally get it. Like, you know, they, you know, Virgo can be very critical and, and you know, like super analytical and they wanna just so, and yes, yes. You know, they're critical, but really because they're critical of themselves, right? Yes.

And so there's that projection happening. Mm-hmm. Hello. I think we can all agree that we can be that way. Yes. Right? Yes, a hundred percent. And, and certain things trigger that enough. And, you know, that's where the natal chart comes in and you can actually see, oh, what house? Yes. Is ruled by Virgo. And so as my, for my own example, my eighth house Yes.

Of like shared resources, intimacy and sex is ruled by Virgo. I can tell you it kind of gets in the way. Sometimes

You go, you go. I was just gonna say, because I've, I've also. So I have two [00:14:00] quite heavy planets in my eighth house. So like, you know, and it's not my sun, it's not my moon or anything like that, but I have, so I have Saturn and Pluto in there, and it's like, oh my gosh. And they're making a, a conjunction. So, you know, there's just no way you can get away from, you know, the eighth house and depending on the house system that can move into the seventh.

Right. But it still makes sense because it's about relationships and, you know, marriage and Yeah. You know, it's, it's been challenging, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But on a much deeper level, eighth house is like, you know, the seventh house is like, you know, what you see kind of surface level, you know? Yes. And then the eight house is like, is under the covers.

Yeah. Under the covers, right. So, yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I can just, I, I, for me, I can totally see how Virgo has also gets in there and can be a bit of a, obstacle or you know, but knowing that, you know, and then knowing what the higher frequencies of Virgo are, then you can consciously, you know, move [00:15:00] towards that.

I really feel like it's all about consciousness. Yes. And I think too, it's the shadow and the light of everything, right? I'm pretty sure I've got, I have got like four planets in the 8,000. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the, so I, I, so I naturally gravitate towards eight house themes, right. Because of my own lived experience. And then, oh, how are other people navigating it?

And, you know, can, can it show me something more? Can it, you know, to better understand why am I this way? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, and you know, the eighth, the eighth house is also the House of triggers. Like, we need another, like, we will get triggered. That's just, that's just accept it. You will get triggered Yeah.

In the eighth house, but it requires another person for the trigger to happen. Yeah. Unfortunately, you know, so I look at my husband, I'm like, you are my curse and my, you know, you're both right. That's so great. But, and this is, this is another thing that I'm going to, probably delve into and, and, and, and kind of see what I can kind of create.

But I do think there's like [00:16:00] some kind of correlation between like what sign rules your house Yes. And how you show up in the bedroom. Yeah. Yeah. And I think like and you know, what's my partner's, you know, is it compatible and Yes, yes, yes, yes. You know, all that kind of thing. Right. And like, and, and you know, and I think honestly, I feel like a lot of, yes, of course you have like the, the elements, right?

Yeah. Typically fire and air. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, complement each other more and then earth and water. And then the other ones are a little, you know, so there there is that, I mean, nature is nature. Yes. You know, that's, that's, we can't get away from it. But, you know, I do also think there is a lot of free will, you know?

Yes. And if's love. And if there's, you know, compassion and respect, then you, you know, we can move towards. Something that actually works together, you know? So Yeah. Especially in like a couple's situation. Yeah. I think I'll say too, like I, I have to say, like, we've been married, it's actually tomorrow is the 30th anniversary of my first date with my husband.[00:17:00] 

Oh, the 25th of February, 1996. Happy anniversary. Thank you very much. But I have to say that for both of us, like, you know, e every single marriage you bring in all of the, you know, baggage and wounding from your own childhood, and you're trying to smush two, you know, family cultures together and mm-hmm.

Like all of those things. Mm-hmm. It's not freaking easy. And I think for me, like I was, I, I don't know why I was thinking this the other day, but you know, when they like interview people, oh, you've been married for 50 years. What's the secret? You know, that those sort of, and I'm like, I can me the one thing.

The one thing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the one thing I know I wa I watch one of those and, and then one, one of the men's like having a nip of whiskey together at 10 o'clock at night every night, I'm like, boss. Oh my gosh. That's like the worst. I know, right? I need to do that again. No, it's not gonna work. But I think my only thing is like stay in the room.

Yeah. Stay in the room. Like that's it. Like, sometimes you are gonna trigger the fuck out of each other and sometimes you let each other down and Yeah. Yeah. There's all [00:18:00] sorts of learnings and unlearning. I think staying in the room and keeping your mouth closed when it doesn't need to be said, which I'm not great at, but also, but you're aware of it.

Yeah. Yeah. Coming back and being like, you know what? I really fucked that up. Like I didn't, I don't wanna act like that towards you, and I wouldn't want to receive it either. Like Yeah. Yeah. I think that's all very eighth housey sort of like, you know, like it, you're gonna rub, I think the relationship where there isn't friction.

Someone is lying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just, yeah, exactly. No, because there's definitely, we all, like you said, we all, we totally all have. Have baggage and you know, the eight house especially is like, you know, it's, it's, it's about inheritance financial. Mm-hmm. But it's also about energetic inheritance Yes.

From our parents. Yay. Exactly. You know, and generationally, right, because like epigene genetically, like we are already imprinted before we get here. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I wanna get to [00:19:00] your specific area of interest, but I'm just wondering Yeah. In that we've spoken about the eighth house, do we have enough space to go through, just quickly the houses?

Because I want, I wanna set the scene for why this particular house is Sure, sure, sure, sure. Yeah. We could do that. Impacted you. Yes, yes, yes. Because it sounds like when, as we are talking, Nic, I get this feeling of like, you almost like dancing with all of the different parts of the house and some feel very like juicy to you.

Oh yeah. Or there's something to learn here, or something that feels. Important to dive into. Yeah. So yeah, and, and actually my chart, if you look at my chart, it's very top heavy. Actually, I don't have any I don't have any planets, one to six really, or seven even. I don't have any planets. Yeah. One, one to seven.

I have no planet. So what does that for, for people like me that have no fricking idea, like of mm-hmm. How to even look at a chart. Mm-hmm. What if you, if you saw that in someone else, what would you immediately think? Like there's, well, I would immediately think that [00:20:00] their life in this lifetime is really about the other, like more Yes.

Like quite a more of a public, public entity. And when I say public or like visible or, you know, or like kind of collective working, yes. Working towards a collective, working towards something that is like a, like a collective vision is quite. Do you have, it's probably quite important, collective circuitry in your human design, if that makes sense.

Oh gosh, I can't, I have all collective. Oh no. Oh, you all but one, I have one tribal and then everything else is collective. Yeah, I, you know what? I can't, oh, I can't actually remember, but I do know I, it's got something I know off the top of my head either. I'm not mean you on the spot. Yeah, yeah. I'm just interested.

Yeah. So, so that's, that's, that would be like the first thing that I, that's what you would, would pick up on. Yeah. And then obviously, okay. Is there a house. That's specifically more active than another. So that, that would also, so for me, it's the 11th house, which is also like Totally, we'll, we'll, I'll, I'll get to it.

Yeah. Yeah. So it takes us on a [00:21:00] quick tour and then I wanna get Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So basically so the first house is, is, is basically you, your per, you know, your identity can be a physical appearance, how you show up in the world, that kind of thing. Right. And I'm, I'm gonna take it just very simply for Yes, yes.

We are not, we're not meaning this to be a textbook. We're meaning a little, a little introduction. Yeah. But yeah. But, but for example, if you have quite an active first house, you know, you could very well, people would see that quite, quite, you know, it wouldn't be, you wouldn't be secretive, let's put it that way.

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all there for everyone to see. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, and then second house is about your own resources. So my resources, yeah. Money, finances, security. Mm-hmm. Safety, that kind of thing. Mm-hmm. Skills and talents also come into the second house. Mm-hmm. Third house is communication education, siblings.

Yeah. Your local environment. Mm-hmm. Fourth house is a home family. Ancestral lineage. You know, [00:22:00] childhood kind of comes in there as well. Yeah. The fifth house, I have Pluto in retrograde in my fourth. Ah, okay. Yes. Something tricky. Mm. Yeah. Yeah. No, so that's, that's quite. That's quite an important house for you.

Yeah. The fifth house is the fun house. Yeah. Everyone can just remember that. I always, that's how I always explain it when I do readings as well. It's like, you know, of all houses. The fifth house is a fun house because it's creativity, it's self expression, it's pleasure, it's love, it's joy. It's like it's, it's, it's you know, it's kind of also the house where you would have an affair in, you know, that kind of Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Vibes. Yeah. Yeah. So hobbies, games, that kind of thing comes into the phyt Children. Yeah. It's a house of children. Mm-hmm. So sixth house is daily work habits, routines. Mm-hmm. Health, kind of unequal work relationships. So like employer, employee. Yeah. Can be pets as well.

Mm-hmm. Seventh [00:23:00] house marriage. Yeah. Committed relationships, one-to-one relationships, business partnership. Any legal matters come into the seventh house. Yeah, yeah. Eighth house as we've kind of spoken about. The, the juicy Yeah, yeah, yeah. The, the stuff under the cover. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and you know, if you think about it, so the eighth house is opposite the second house.

Yes. So it carries kind of similar themes, but it's shared in the eighth house. Right. Whereas in the second it, mine it's individual. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. It's my resources, my money, whereas up in the Yeah, that makes sense. It's other people's money and that's why things like inheritance. Inheritance inherit inheritance.

Oh my gosh, what? Debt loans. Taxes, yes. Those kind of things come into the eighth, right? Yeah, yeah. Ninth house is also the other fun house because it's like long distance travel. It's higher learning, right? 'cause it's opposite the third house, which is more [00:24:00] like primary education. Mm-hmm. And it's, it's where you find the meaning of life, right?

It's philosophy, it's religion, it's, you know, kind of like what is life about? It kind of makes sense to me. 'cause I have a lot going on in the ninth as well. I'm like, I'm just about to leave the country for Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then the 10th house is typically the House of Korea. Mm-hmm. You know, your public role in society, you know, your visibility what you are, an authority on authority figures.

Oh. And then depending on it, I mean, there's no, there's no like, oh, the father is always in the 10th house and the mother is always in the fourth. It's, it's not like that again. It's very dependent on a person's chart. Yeah. But a lot of people tend to put the father in the 10th, 10th because whoever, whichever parent was a more dominant in terms of, you know who kind of showed you like, these are the rules.

Like yes. You know, this is what's accepted in, in society. Right. And that could, in my case, totally. My mother. Yeah, exactly. That's what I was thinking. Well, in some [00:25:00] households that would not have been totally my mother, but interestingly, because of the planet I have in the 10th house, it's both my parents in there.

Yeah, right. I can, yes. It's so, it's so fascinating. Anyway, and the 11th house is the house of. Hopes, dreams and wishes. Ooh. It's a house of good fortune, actually. No, it doesn't get spoken about a lot, I feel, but Yeah. Traditionally that why Yeah, I know, right. Sounds like the most important one to me.

I know. And it's, it's the house of the collective. It's friendships, groups, larger organizations. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, it has that kind of, I don't, I don't like to kind of, what's it called? Blend House and sign too much. Yes. But Aquarius is the natural ruler of the 11th house. Right. Yeah.

Gotcha. But not everyone's 11th house is ruled by Aquarius, so Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's, that's the bits where I'm like, my brain just goes, oh. Yeah, I understand. But that's okay. That's why we have you. Yeah. [00:26:00] That's your purpose. And then we have the 12th house, which is kind of the focus of today's.

Yes, it is. I'm so excited. Cool. Right. So the 12th house is the House of Spirituality. Mm-hmm. Solitude retreat. If you were to think of places, actual places, it places like prisons. Mm-hmm. Like mental institutions, hospitals. Mm-hmm. Actual retreats would fall into the 12th house. So that's kind of the, the themes.

It's also like the house of self undoing is what you'll often hear. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's kind of, so again, Neptune and Pisces Yes. Kind of belong in there. Right. So, you know, yeah. On the higher end it's like extreme creativity and imagination and healing. Arts and arts. Yes. Yes. You know, those kind of things.

But on the other end, so it's kind of like. You know, what's your dream? What's your fantasy? Right? Yes. But if you can't deal with your own reality, you knows, then it's actually like, it's, yeah. I mean, mean [00:27:00] that's where, backwards. Yeah. Back. But it's also so people who, like you can see this in, in like kind of famous you know entertainers charts, right?

Yes. The ones who've gone to rehab a lot. Yeah. The ones that have a drug or alcohol addiction strong, either neptunian. Mm-hmm. Vibes or, or, or placements. Right? Yeah. Because it's, that's how you self undo, right? Because you just can't, you know, it's too harsh. Reality for you is too harsh. So you kind of, you have to create this other reality for yourself.

Yeah. Right? And you, you know, you wanna do it in a healthy way, not in a destructive way. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And as you are talking, that makes me think of the word capacity. 'cause it's like, can I hold the reality and the journey at the same time? Which Yeah. Often. Depending on your capacity, it is tricky for people.

Yeah. Yeah. And then obviously what we're gonna be Yeah. Talking about now is that, so the, the 12th house is also often associated with the unconscious mm-hmm. Or the subconscious. And I also [00:28:00] now like to see it as a super conscious again Yes. You know, higher and lower frequencies, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yes. And yeah, so I, gosh, I'd say like around last summer I really started getting very drawn to, well, first of all, I was just deep diving into Pluto. And Pluto is a planet is about the collective unconscious as well. Yes, yes. I mean all the, all those outer planets. So Uranus Neptune and Pluto. Mm-hmm.

Kind of talk about some kind of unconsciousness on the collective level. And with Pluto, it really is about like, you know, the, the very deepest. Stuff that we don't kind of, that we're just very unconscious about. Right. But I was so drawn to like, you know, really understanding what Pluto is in our charts.

Yes. Like how do, because I have Pluto in my pals, how is that kind of, you know? Yeah. Yeah. We did that things and, and I think, you know, Carly Young said it, he said it best, right. Until you [00:29:00] make the unconscious conscious, you know, you will view life as fate as if your life is ruled by fate, right? Mm-hmm. And so I think it's really, I mean, we're just doing ourselves a service to begin with, just ourselves if we start digging, you know?

Yes. But then last year I also, all of last year was just a whole, you know, it was very, it was very Jupiter in the sense that it was like higher learning and, you know, going into like all kinds of, learnings or, or, and courses about, you know, kind of manifestation and, and subconscious and how, because essentially, I really do believe that we create our reality.

Yeah. And that can be really hard to accept, you know, especially when our external is like, I created that. Yeah. There's a bit of pill to swallow. Right. It's, but also exciting once you realize it and surrender to that understanding. Exactly. Exactly. And, and I also often think like, well, you know, those times when you've just had something amazing happen [00:30:00] and it, it seems like you had no role in it.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. You have, you have had a role in it. Right. And if you think about the fact that we only use 5% of our, of our brain. Right. I know. Isn't it wild? Like what if, what if we even used just a little bit more? Like if that thing was magical, it could be even more magical. Yeah. You know? So that's kind of where all of this led, you know, started taking me down.

Yes. And interestingly, my chart progressed Mercury, which is a separate chart that we can talk about some other times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. I'm like, do we, we need like 10 different episodes anyway. My progressed Mercury Yeah. Moved into the 12th house. Yeah. Right at around this time. Right. So it's like typically, you know, when we talk about the progress chart, it's more of a symbolic unfolding.

It's not necessarily anything that you'll see on the external, but, you know, something was being moved inside of me that took me down. You know, these paths, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was really while I was reading this book by, oh, was his name Joseph? [00:31:00] Joseph Murphy, I think. Mm-hmm. From the sixties.

The power of your subconscious mind. Yeah. That I was reading it and I was like, okay, isn't there some, isn't there a way, like, I wonder, I I, I do remember asking like a wonder question. I wonder how one could relate the subconscious to one's own natal chart. Yes. Right. Because. There's so much talk about the subconscious and do this and manifest this.

And so I'm a little Mm, around the word manifestation. Yeah, I agree completely because it, I think it's a buzzword that is used to make people money mostly. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But it is a good word. Yeah, of course. It's so, I, I, you know, I do have to use it in this sense, but and so I just thought, well, maybe could one of the reasons be that it's so hard for us sometimes to like get our minds around it.

And I know often it's not really our minds that need to kind of get in there. Right. Is it, it, can it be difficult because. [00:32:00] We're just following someone else's script. That's what I was just about to say. This is my whole anti manifestation thing because like everything that we always talk about, it's like there is no one size fits all that magically manifests because if you strip manifestation the word back to its essence, it is having something that is not yet real become real.

Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. So there is no magical formula that will do that for every single person. And we all have different wiring that will allow us to enable manifestation to work. Yeah. And I think for a lot of us, the way that we use it is to manifest shit accidentally. Not, not intentionally, obviously.

I'm not saying that, but recreating all patterns from childhood. Exactly. And also, you know, could it, could it be that we're manifesting crap? Because when you do kind of, because it, you know, it is, it is it is becoming more conscious. You are working more with your consciousness. Right. But then [00:33:00] unconscious stuff might surface.

Yes. You know, and then we're not ready for that. And then we're like and then sub subconsciously that ends up affecting, you know, the way we, we decide to do something or the way we, you know, react. So I think it's like that. So that's kind of where I was. And again, you know, I haven't, I have not discovered like the thing that's gonna do it for you, you know?

No, but you've, you've created something that helps people find their own way. Yes. That's what they like about it. That's the thing. Yeah. That's the thing. So, I mean, I call it, so, so this, this framework that I've created is called the 12th House. Super conscious scripting. Mm-hmm. And it's a very, it's, it's a loose framework.

I feel. I kind of, you know, give you some guidelines. Yes. And as to what to think about. And it, it basically is looking at your 12th house. Yeah. Now, I typically do not just focus on one house, you know, like in a natal chart unless you have like, you know, five planets, [00:34:00] everything in it. Yeah. You know, it's like, we have to talk about this house.

Right? Yeah. We can't pretend that that's not there. No. And then you could talk about it for an hour, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But typically, you wanna kind of look at it holistically, but for this specific exercise, we are looking at the subconscious. Right. And initially it was a subconscious, but then as I kind of, I was having conversations with people, you know, and this woman I met, she was talk, she said, oh, but you know, there's the.

There's a conscious and a subconscious, but then there's also the, the super conscious and my, I think like my, everything went ding, you know? Like, oh, I need to like this. There's something here for me. You know? Yes, yes, yes, yes. And so I just started just kind of thinking about it a bit more. Oh, and then I got to read The Game of Life by, I don't know, Lauren Scoville Shin.

This book was written back in 1925. And Kylie, when you read it, you are gonna be like, oh, that's what all you guys have taken. I doing [00:35:00] material from, I get it. Okay. I love the OG books, right? It's like, oh my God, I wanna know you back in 1920. Can, can you imagine being a woman writing a book like that in 1920 something?

Yeah. I mean, seriously. Seriously, and, and it's so relevant. It's so relevant. So I implore you to get, I'm gonna, you've gotta gimme the details and I'll put it in the show notes. It's not very, it's actually not very, I don't have it myself. It's actually because it's from 1925, it's, it's a little difficult to find.

Yeah. Yeah. But you can look it up on YouTube and there's this one account that actually reads it out loud, but also shows you just the page that they're reading. Yeah. Gotcha. And so for me, I love it because I'm like listening and reading, right? Yes, yes, yes, yes. And this is one of these books that you want, you don't wanna just read it.

Once you read it the first time, you're like, oh my gosh. Right. But, and then you realize, uhhuh, okay, so this is what that manifestation guru is talking about. Oh, and this is what [00:36:00] they're talking about. And they, you know, they've just taken things. Yeah. You know, and, and like, no, there's no one's reinvented anything.

Right. Or you don't have to like, it's, it's, but what's amazing to me is like. Like, we've moved so far away from this. Yeah. You know, and I feel like if, if more people just just, you know, read her book for example, you know, and, and it kind of took in and it, you know, it might seem a little woo to people, but it is like, it's not just facts and evidence and proof.

You know, there's, there's gotta be, there's gotta be both, right? Yeah, totally. And I think we've totally lost that kind of more of that. Basically it's Jupiter, what I'm, the way that I explain it, I mean, Jupiter is faith, you know, taking that leap of faith. I don't know where, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know. I have no evidence do, but I'm choosing it, you know? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Whereas Mercury, which is again the opposite in the, in the house, right? Yes. Mercury is the one that is like, [00:37:00] okay, give me, gimme the facts. Yes. Back it up. Yeah. You know, like, yeah. So we've gone a little bit too much towards Mercury and not enough with Jupiter.

Right. Hundred percent. So yeah, so I just, so, so then when I, so in this book, I think it's like on the first page she talks about how the mind has three parts, super conscious, conscious and subconscious. And I'm like, ta, oh my gosh. Here it's from 1925. So wild, isn't it? And then I'm like, I love these.

Like, I love how the universe is just like, Nic, this is part of your purpose in life, so I'm just gonna drop the breadcrumbs and breadcrumbs and breadcrumbs. And you could not listen. Like, that's exactly, that's conscious choice. That's where free wheel comes in. Exactly. I love it when like, as you're talking, I you are having what I like to call, like chiropractic adjustments of the soul when something Yes.

Oh, oh, I can but ignore that. Yeah. Like this is go time. Like I have to go down this. Yeah. You know, round. Exactly. [00:38:00] Yeah. Exactly. Very cool. So, and by this point actually the f I'd already been doing the framework. Yeah. And I had, you know, some beautiful souls, one of, one of them being you. Right. Join, join.

And, and I thought it would be. Well, initially I thought, Hey, this is gonna be fun. Okay. Like, it'll be fun for me. Mm-hmm. I wanna try it out. But also, how would it be for others? Because this really, it would be or is specific to your chart, so we should really all have quite different experiences. Yes, yes.

And this is what I love about it. 'cause saying, I am Nic and I'm the guru and this is how you manifest, which, yeah. And this is what the result will be. No, your result will be, and now that I reflect on it, the results have been exactly what each person has needed. Yes. Actually. And that is nothing that I can orchestrate no good.

Oh no. So, oh no. Yeah, I know. How could you I wish, I wish, I mean, oh my goodness. Yeah, when you, so, so go on. Yeah. No, go on. No, no, no. I was gonna say just so that [00:39:00] for people that are listening, so. Don't, like, you don't have to talk about the framework in detail, but just you are taking what is in the 12th heart for E Heart, 12th Heart.

Oh, that's also nice. Yeah. For each person. And then that person is putting in place the framework, which I love because it isn't a rigid framework. It's Yes. I actually skipped a Yeah, that's just difficult, Kylie. And you are actually also asking the person to feel into things for themselves for the way that they're gonna work with us as well.

Yes, exactly. So can you tell us a little bit more about like, and actually actually one thing that we have to say before this is a, this is actually something that people can buy now from your website. Yes, yes, yes, exactly. Just be aware that if what we are talking about with true cerial, tru sky astrology versus tropical is kind of feeling juicy for [00:40:00] you.

Maybe when you do it, you might wanna be working with the in true Cial chart. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know whether you actually specifically say that. Probably, probably. Actually, you know what? It's so funny because for me now there is, there is only true cial. Yeah, me too. Like, so I, I kind of actually forget that.

Oh, yeah. Hang on. Someone might have a question about Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is totally up to you. Yes. You know, if you're still very wedded to the topical system, then just work with that. You know, like it's, it's, yeah. It's, it's it's very much dependent on what, on what you would like to do.

But, you know, of course, I, I do see the true arial like peeling back layers. Yes. You know, like you have the tropical and then you have the true, and then it's like, oh, okay. Right. And since we are working with things that are quite deep, you know, and like really the essence of us. Yes. I mean, if you want my honest opinion, yeah.

I would say right. I would strongly recommend working with your two cerial [00:41:00] chart. So yeah, so, so it, so the, the framework itself is basically 11 very short audios. And I deliberately made them short because everyone's attention span is just, well, also we don't need more information, we need integration.

Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So I I, I'm so clear on that. Yeah, yeah. We're full of, yeah, absolutely. And, you know, it shouldn't be this very difficult thing to, to do. And also if anyone's wondering, oh, do I need to know astrology? No, you don't need to know any astrology down, like you could just listen to my tracks and you would be guided and there's nothing more than that.

And you, and you would just, it's about connecting with, the planet or planets. I do recommend not to work with more than two because I think it then it just becomes a bit too much in the mind. Yeah, I agree. You essentially, what you're doing is you're working with your 12th house planet, you're getting to know the energy in your [00:42:00] 12th house.

Yes. You know, and I think a lot of the times we're quite unconscious of it, you know? It is, you know, it's the house of the hidden things. It's not typically anywhere where we go and mm-hmm. One to 11, the way that I mentioned and described it, it's all very kind of 3D Like, it's, it's, yes. It's, you know, there's cause and effect.

The 12th is like, ooh, nebulous. Yes. And, and do you really need to know a lot about that planet? Not really. Right. But I do have separate tracks for each planet with some key words.

Yes. Just, you know, 'cause someone who's never done astrology, I mean, we all know the sun and the moon, right? Yeah. Pretty much. But let's say you have, let's say you have Uranus in there, right? Mm-hmm. Like what? Okay. What is Uranus than that? Yeah. What does, what does that mean? You know? And so I, I do throw some key words, but again, I want to make it as accessible and easy to everyone.

So I have, I don't really think necessarily that it's [00:43:00] important for this. Yes. There is just like, you know, one, one track about, let's say Uranus Yes. Keywords, and then, you know, what it, what the glyph looks like.

Essentially the reason I created it is because, you know, yeah. We wanna create the best life, our best life ever. Mm-hmm. But we also know, even though we don't know necessarily what the blocks are, that we have blocks. And we have these beliefs that don't really belong to us. Right? Yeah.

Like these subconscious beliefs basically. Yes. And they're not aligned to what you what the best life. No. Like, you know, otherwise we would have the best life. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And so, you know, someone listening now might be like, oh, hang on, you mentioned the three parts to the mind. Okay. So like, what, you know, everyone knows what the conscious mind is, but what, like, what's the difference between subconscious and the subconscious then, right?

Mm-hmm. Well, the subconscious is every, is all the conditioning, right? Mm-hmm. Is a habitual. And also the habitual thoughts and, and beliefs that we picked up. Exactly. You [00:44:00] know? Right. Yeah. In utero as a, you know, as a little baby, as a toddler, as a child, as a young adult, et cetera, et cetera, right? Yes.

From, from all different sources. And the super conscious is essentially our higher mind, the one that knows all the answers, because just think on those times when you've just known. Yep. You've just known. Mm-hmm. How do I know that? You know? And that could, how do, for me, it's actually a voice. I actually like, hear a voice and it's like, o okay, I guess I'll act on this, you know?

Yeah. That is literally, you are super conscious. Yeah. You know, so it's available to us. And the thing is, I know that it's available to us all the time, it's just that we're not conscious accessing it. Yeah, yeah. You are not consciously accessing it. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And so what this framework does is, you know, kind of help you along on that, on that way.

Right. And the way to, you know, to see if it works for [00:45:00] someone, I guess, right? Mm-hmm. I, I recommend that you take a belief that you know is not serving you, right? Mm-hmm. So, you know, one that's very common is self-worth. Yeah. Right. So you take that belief and you wanna kind of change it and it, you know, it's not enough to maybe sometimes say, you know, just affirm your way, you know, out of it.

But that, you know, it just kind of gets stuck here. Right. Well, and also it's, to me, affirmations are ignoring the fact that your subconscious is running on automatic pilot in the background anyway. Exactly. So you can put whatever you want in your conscious mind, but if your subconscious is not being dealt with, like you're exactly like putting something on an un, a misaligned foundation.

Yeah. And expecting it to magically. Exactly. I think that that's why I don't love some of the manifestation teachers, because it's almost a bit victim blamey when the manifestation doesn't happen. It's like, well you Yeah, problem. And it's like, no, you are putting something on top of something that needs tending at a different level.

You're not [00:46:00] addressing. Yeah, the underlying, yeah. You know, it's kind of just, you know, slapping something on and, you know, it could work maybe for a little bit, but then it stops, or Yeah. You know? Yeah. And as you were talking about the super conscious as well, Nic, I haven't made this association before, but 'cause I, I often will explain things like, I often do like self kind of awareness and self-mastery process through the lens of like internal family systems.

So. Mm-hmm. When you're talking about the super conscious, the parallel that kind of feels true in my body is that authentic self because like, as the, the self with the capital s, which I see the wild woman like Yeah. Part of me that knows everything that. I need to know. Yeah. Knows who I am is very grounded, very calm.

Yes. Very different to the subconscious like firefighters and protectors that are, you know, trying to run interference because they think that you're unsafe and you're a little kid still. Yeah. That is a really cool understanding for me. 'cause I'm like, ah, of course this [00:47:00] works because it's like, it's, yeah, it's, yeah.

And it's really yeah. Letting your higher self deal with the stuff that's in the subconscious. Exactly. And the, and therefore, therefore, the way that I see it is that it's the super conscious that communicates with the subconscious, like the conscious mind can. We've all done it. That's the a that's the affirming, right?

You're consciously affirming and you're thinking you're gonna change the subconscious. Correct. The subconscious doesn't go, it doesn't change my logic, right? No, no. God, no. I mean, you can read all books on this and where it says like, it's not that. Right? It's so, and the super conscious, you know, it, it communicates through symbolism, through, through, you know, visuals, through feeling through, you know, and that's why like when they're more connected, that's, that's when I believe that the subconscious can start

you know, changing, right? Yes. And that's, what we want to, to be doing.

All right friends, [00:48:00] as you can already tell, we had to split this episode into two parts because it was so juicy. So that is part one that you've just listened to. Come back next week we will be publishing part two, where we dive into how the 12th house can be a gateway to working with our super conscious and some of the amazing results that Nick's community has experienced through this work.

Stay tuned.