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S6E30: The 12th House, Superconscious Scripting & Living Untamed with Nic McDowall (Part Two)

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Nic MacDowall is an authentic astrologer working with the true visible sky. She translates your celestial blueprint through True Sidereal astrology and teaches how to consciously work with the 12th house - the layer of mind that does not respond to force.

The work we speak about in this episode centres around Superconscious Scripting: orienting your conscious awareness to what already exists beneath it, without pressure or performance.

In part one of this two part episode, we pulled astrology out of abstraction and back into the actual sky above our heads.
In part two, we move from structure to depth.

From the architecture of the chart…to the layer of mind beneath it. There is a layer of your mind that does not respond to force or control. Most people sense it - but don’t know how to work with it directly.

Here, we explore:
        •      What the superconscious actually is - and what it absolutely isn’t
        •        Why it doesn’t respond to pressure, urgency or “manifest harder” energy
        •        How it responds instead - recognition, clarity and conscious direction
        •        The 12th House Superconscious Scripting framework Nic created to consciously work with this layer
        •        Real stories of how this unfolds in grounded, life-changing ways
        •        The felt difference between fear and intuition
        •        Where effort supports alignment - and where it quietly sabotages it

Links mentioned in this ep:

The 12th House Superconscious Scripting offering here  

The 12th Portal community for onoging guidance and community

Nic's website here 

Connect with Nic on instagram here

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S6E29: The 12th House, Superconscious Scripting & Living Untamed with nic McDowall

So, and the super conscious, you know, it, it communicates through symbolism, through, visuals, through feeling through, you know, and that's why like when they're more connected, that's, that's when I believe that the subconscious can start Yeah.

You know, changing, right? Yes. And that's, what we want to, to be doing. I don't know if anyone else has done similar type of of work, right? . I, I kind of didn't. I really wanted to let my own super conscious and I really think it was my super conscious, help me create this framework.

You know, because I was just being led, right? Yes. And funnily enough, right as I was reading this book, the Power of Your Subconscious Mind, I was reading about Mars. Ah, and Mars is my 12,000 planet, right? Oh, crazy. So crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my goodness. So yeah, the other things are now it, it's, it's kind of not related.

It's not, it's not the thing that I wanted to say, but the, [00:01:00] the other thing that the common theme or the common benefit, I think that people have spoken about doing this, and this is very 12th house, which is creating those moments of stillness for yourself. Yes. Because you have, you have to do that.

Like that is what the 12th house is about. The 12th house, as I mentioned before, one of the key, one of the key words is retreat. Yeah. Meditation falls into the 12 hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That, those kind of activities, right? Yes. I personally don't like to use the word meditation because I feel like it's a doing, you know, and, and, and, oh, you're doing it wrong.

Or like, you know, people are like, and you so often hear like, I can't meditate. Okay. No. But you can sit in stillness. Yes. You can sit in silence. Yes. And that is only meditation based on a box that we've been given from an external authority that may not work for you. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I just remember the thing that I wanted to say.

So I'll say it now before I forget. So when you were explaining how, you know your [00:02:00] understanding of the subconscious, right? The higher and the subconscious being all these firefighters and protected, so the way that I've experienced it for myself, these voices. Yeah. So for me, the subconscious are these like.

Not always so very nice voices either, you know? Yeah. The ones that says, well, why, how do, who do you think you are and why do you think you can do that? And you need, you know, all those protectors. Yeah. Whereas the super conscious will never, you will never hear that voice. That's what I've discovered. It's very loving.

Yes. It's very calm. Yeah. And it just knows, it's, it's, and it's quiet. It's quiet. It's quiet. Yeah. But how, how do you access it? I'm afraid to say it through stillness, you know? You know, as we're talking, I'm having an out of body experience too, because I am really, really focusing on just living my design through my incarnation cross at the moment.

Mm-hmm. Okay. And my [00:03:00] unconscious earth gate is the gate of stillness, and it is the thing that I most struggle with when all of those voices. All of the fears and the doubts are trying to run the show. And I'm like in the middle of, I had so much activation in my body and so much of that subconscious.

Like what? Yeah. Because I'm doing something that is scary to my system. I'm like, you know, packing everything up, leaving my kids for the first time in a country, you know, country by themselves. I mean they, it's like there's no, and not three. But you know, my fear brain is running over time. And the thing I most resist is the thing that I most need, which is just to get quiet.

Yeah. And get under the surface of all of that and be like, all right, what is actually underneath here? And there is always this deep taproot of calm. Yeah. And quiet. And it is a very different energy. So I totally agree. Yeah. It's like, and it's funny I was having a [00:04:00] conversation with someone the other day and she asked, how do you tell the difference between intuition and.

Like the voice of fear or patterning, and I'm like, to me, to me it's a felt sense, but it's also auditorily how it sounds exactly like saying. Yeah. Yeah. And that'll be different for everyone as well. Like that's the only way to tell. Yeah. And I would say in response to this to this woman, is that, let's say it's an action, right?

Mm-hmm. That needs that comes through. Yes. It will never feel forced. No, no guess. And it'll, and it will never feel urgent. Yes. You just know. So grippy or motivated by something that's fearful or, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The other, the other one is, it always feels urgent somehow. Mm-hmm. Oh, you know, and yeah.

I've had a voice previously where there was a sense of urgency, but it wasn't like it was still grounded. Yes. It was just, I just knew that, you know, I had a window, let's say [00:05:00] Yes, time where. It was necessary to get something done. Yes. But you, but you know, if you, but this is the thing, like another thing as well, I feel, is that I don't think we do enough of this, right?

No. And because we don't do enough of this, just being still and hearing ourselves out, we lose touch with it. Yeah. And therefore, we immediately, so therefore our, you know, the, the monkey brain is like, oh, I need some external thing to tell me what to do. You know? And do you know what, like if I come back to why I feel so triggered sometimes by the tropical astrology thing, I'm like, I do believe that part of the reason why the entire world is too fast is the systemic oppression of us as human beings and our own evolution.

Yeah. And so systems like tropical that say you're actually two, four degrees ahead of where, you know, like what the actual sky is doing. I'm like, we need to just slow the fuck down. Yeah. Stop externalizing our power. Stop looking outside of ourselves for answers. [00:06:00] Yeah. And actually creating, and I, I always use the word self devotion to me.

Like it's not a different, it's a devotion because I'm like, I want to live from the space of my super conscious or my wise woman, like whatever language we wanna put. And the super conscious wants you to do that too. Exactly. And also all the monkey mind and the fear voice and the drive and the externalizing, all it does is just distract us.

Yeah, exactly. From what we are actually meant to be and do, and how we're meant to move through the world. And so, to me, this is an art form of self, self understanding and self, I dunno, the word that's coming to my head is mastery. And that still sounds very masculine, but it's No, yeah, no, no. Yeah, I agree.

I agree that yeah, that word doesn't. I quite like that word. Yeah. And you know, I was just gonna say like, you know, some people would be like, yeah, but I don't, I can't, I can't afford to do that. I can't, you know, and I'm like, no. Especially if you feel that way. [00:07:00] Yeah. That's that old thing. If you don't to meditate, that's when you need the most.

Yeah, yeah. And you know, we all, we all get given time, right? Yes. Not the same amount. Yeah. But we will get given time and it really is, you know, I, this I've stopped saying I don't have time. Yeah, me too. You know, I, I don't make the time. That's what it is. And that also comes down to it's not a priority.

Mm-hmm. You know, like, not something I, it's a bit of oh, I don't have time. You know, and it's become very normal. And, and like, but actually if you think about it, it's, it's, what you're saying is you are, you are not my priority. Yeah. You knows I value that. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Let's just see it exactly. I actually it's so funny.

Moving countries is like a massive permission slip to just take shit off your to-do list. For me, I'm like, oh my God. All of these things that would be nice to do according to my subconscious trying [00:08:00] to run, you know, like make sure that I haven't let anyone down or blah, blah, blah. And it is, like I was saying to you before we started recording, like so many patterns of right in my face at the moment because I'm seeing all the ways that I still run protection around myself rather than just trusting my intuition.

I would love, if it's okay with you to share my experience doing the 12th house stuff because I don't have any planets in my 12th house. So yeah, I would love for you to do that. Yeah. So I like my initial reaction 'cause you know, the first thing, like look at the planets in 12th House and I'm like, I don't have any planets in my 12th house.

There must be so wrong with me. This isn't gonna.

Oh dear. So if like me, someone doesn't have planets in their 12 house, you said calm your farm. Yeah. So what do we need to look at? And then I, yeah. I'd love to share what I've been working on and what the unexpected yeah. Consequences have been. So, [00:09:00] so if, if you don't have a planet in your 12 house, you just look at what sign is ruling it.

Yes. Right. So, you know, if you think there are like 12 pie slices. Yes. But if this is the 12th house. Yes. This is the 12th house. Then it's the line between the 11th and the 12th.

The 12th, yeah. Basically, right? Mm-hmm. And if you were to just draw the line straight up, you'd actually see in the chart like what sign Yes. It would cross. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And whatever sign that is is the ruler of that house. Yes. And then each sign has a planetary ruler. Yes. So in your case, I'm a Venus, so I can't remember your, so your 12th house was ruled by Taurus, I think.

Yes, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. And therefore your 12th house planet is Venus. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And when you were saying like, what's the biggest like, belief that you wanna be kind of unpicking, and this has been like, I feel like this is my bloody life mission. I've talked about it many times on this podcast, just this patterning of working hard to create [00:10:00] income.

Mm-hmm. And particularly, working hard, like a very out of balance. Mm-hmm. Like very out of balance, like, yeah. And one of the reasons, and this is actually the unexpected consequence, oh, actually, first of all, the wild thing to me was as soon as I did the first kind of feel into like, what message might Venus, you know, have for me?

Or what's sim symbolism or whatever, the two things that came through. So clearly the first thing I saw was a belly dancer. So very, very like hip, like I, I felt very, yeah. Grounded and that like, figure eight in the hips of that very, mm-hmm. What came to my mind was very like second chakra base chakra kind of.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, and the flow, you know, the, so the word flow was what? And the dance and the joy and the like real. 'cause what I saw was not just a belly dancer, but like a group of belly dancers and lots of like. Like, kind of, you know. And so I was like, joy and flow. And then the [00:11:00] second thing was being a mermaid and swimming.

Mm-hmm. I love water. Water is my soul food. Mm-hmm. And I live like three and a half hours away from the ocean. Same, same. Yeah. Not for very long. And yeah, just swimming in the water. And that actually came with two things. 'cause first of all, a, it's like a safety and a a calm. And I, I've often said my mission this year, and I was saying at the end of last year too, was to create a business in a way of welcoming in money that feels like a calm blue ocean.

'cause to me, much. I'm held, there's a flow, there's a playfulness. Mm-hmm. And I, quite often in meditations will be taken to like a pot of dolphins that I'm swimming. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Or a wa there's often a whale. Often when I'm working with like kidney and energy, there's a whale that wants to come in, like, it's like very dark, deep water and it's very mystery, like very old lineage kind [00:12:00] of.

And so, so I started working, not working with, I hate that like, but you know Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah. Connecting. Connecting, yes. Connecting with my super conscious. Just with those two symbols. And the, it's funny 'cause at first the mermaidy thing was more of the lightness and the being held, but then as time went on, what I kept being shown was.

The more willing you are to go to the depth, the more expansion. Mm-hmm. So to me it was very much about mm-hmm. Because, you know, emotion is also water. Water is also mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like the more that you can go towards the fear and see it for what it is, which is just that chatter of the protection. Yeah.

Yeah. The more that the more power and flow and ease you will release. And so that was kind of, that was where I kept being and then the belly dancing was just straight out joy. Like just Yeah. But surrendering. Right. Surrendering to that. And that's another very 12th house. [00:13:00] Yeah. Yeah. A word surrender, letting go.

Yeah. Right. You know, 'cause the ego does not belong in the 12th house. Right. So I love all of that. That's so beautiful. And it's like, see, how could, I could never have like, no, and, and I didn't like, you know, I was like, like I'm always down for trying new things. I'm like, oh, cool. Yeah, let's do that. Yeah.

And I'm also just as like, I was looking, you know, my calendar essay. Oh, I get to talk to Nic and I was thinking, it's so funny, I have not connected any of what has unfolded very rapidly over the last few months to the 12th house stuff, but it is very interesting to me. Mm-hmm. That like, we, it start, I think it was just before I started doing super conscious.

We had like spoken to our financial planner. We've always had this you know, we've, we've got a bigger property. We are always been wanting to split it and then put that into mm-hmm. Investments and whatever. Had that whole conversation that just led naturally to talking to a real estate agent just about, you know, what that would look like and blah, blah.

And in that [00:14:00] conversation. It was like the, my wild woman was just out of my mouth came, so how much will we get for rent? And then that afternoon I'm like, I think we should go overseas for 12 months. And one of the biggest. Yeah. So I mean, we've done it before. It's not a new thing for us. Yeah. The two things that, A, being in the ocean.

Mm-hmm. B centering joy. Mm-hmm. And c actually passive, not passively. Actively pattern interrupting. Yeah. My pattern of nine, 10 hour days. Yeah. Just for the fucking sake of it. Like just the sensation of it. Yeah. And I'm like, so, because I think that where my fear parts, but also there is that capricornian like I love mm-hmm.

Getting into something and getting Yeah. And building. Yeah. Building. I mean, you know, that's your son, right? That's, it's like it is. Whether we like it not, it's where we feel our life force and our [00:15:00] vi vitality. Right? Yes. And that's like, I think we should accept that, you know? Yes, exactly. But you are gonna be building something else this year, right?

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But also my moon, and I'm, I don't know if I'm gonna get this right, but my, my moon was in Virgo, so my moon is in Leo in the third house. Mm-hmm. So there, no, that's not right. It's in Gemini. I think I've mucked that up. But anyway, there's some places in my chart where joy and creativity and adventure and travel are really, really strong.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it's just, it kind of feels like, because anytime I do center joy or make the space to go dance or go have fun, like anytime I do come back to my work, I'm actually far more Yeah. Efficient and far more lit up and far more lighthearted. Yeah. But yeah, it's just interesting that working with the 12 and I'm like, oh, in the last three months we've made some rather big decisions to change Yeah.

Move through the world and also to you know, we have other income streams as well that will be mm-hmm. About [00:16:00] travel and Yeah. So it's just, I feel like it's opened up fields of possibilities that would not necessarily have come across my knowing. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Without that, you know, playfulness. And I also love.

It's not like I'm having to like, work at this. Yeah. Like work hard at some. I'm so over. Yeah. Yeah. Like external authorities saying, you've gotta do it this way and you've gotta, if you wanna manifest the best life Yeah, exactly. Do I'm like, oh, exactly. I mean, I think like, you know, you, you find your own way and I think you find your own method that works.

And I mean, yes. There is, there. I do believe consistency matters. Yes. You know, yes I do, Jay. But it doesn't have to be like this. Okay. You know, it can be really as simply as, you know, falling asleep and waking up. That's it. You know, like, it doesn't have to be more than that. Or like two minutes, you know, just two minutes of connecting.

Right. And then when [00:17:00] that kind of increases, right? Mm-hmm. Eighth Wonder of the World compound and dressed. Yeah, I know, right? With everything honestly. So, yeah. I mean this, this, the framework is, it's not for anyone. You know, who wants a quick fix, who wants to be told exactly what they're gonna do, who are gonna, you know, see things happen, boom.

In their reality. I want to remind people that the physical reality is the densest layer. Yes. So it is the slowest takes a slow. Yeah. Right. And therefore, as within so without, right. So people are like, well, my life is, I'm like, okay, well, how, how's, how's it here? Yeah. How's it here? How is it, you know, like, your, your energetic spiritual, yes.

You know, I mean that's, I really get it now in a totally different way, you know, like, and, and for me it's, it's, astrology always reminds me of that. Always. You know, it's like, it's about helping [00:18:00] yourself and inner standing yourself. And even with like something, so other, like the seventh house, right?

Yeah. You're like, yeah, finally I can blame someone else. Oh. You know, like, that's so funny. Nope. You still comes back to you. You know? Yeah. So, so yeah, I do. I, so I think, I mean, I'm always, I'm always available for like, you know, if, if people want guidance, but actually the people who have signed up since I launched Yeah.

They've kind of, you know, well, it's, it's a very introspective thing, right? Yeah. I, I think that that's part of the goal because it isn't saying, I have the answers, apply these six steps. Which I think is the most disrespectful thing that any online business person has ever said. Yeah. Because how can I know your answers exactly.

Give me a framework. And I think, I think the consistency thing is really important and that's why I use the language, self devotion, not discipline. 'cause I have a, like the rebel in me, when you say discipline, I'm like, fuck off. Like I [00:19:00] don't wanna be disciplined. Devoted is a very different energy. Oh, it's a different, totally different frequency.

Yeah, totally. And I think we do need more. See, and when I hear devotion, I hear Virgo. Ah, there you go. See, you know, totally. Self devotion is Virgo energy to me. Yeah. So it's like we all need more of that, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And, and that was a thing like throughout, throughout me, like fleshing it out and you know, kind of sharing what was coming up and like, I would tell, you know, these, the, the, the, the group of people who kind of experimented with Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd be like, oh, and wait and this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This, I made this other connection. And but the thing that I kept coming back to is like, I want it to be as easy to understand and practical. It has to be practical.

Practical. Yes. Are we surprised at my 12th house? I know. Sign is ruled by Capricorn. Okay. I'm like, oh my gosh, I remember you saying that when you, [00:20:00] like, when we had been experimenting and you're like, all right, I'm ready to like, create this thing. And you're like, I don't want it to be long. Like I don't want it to be massive amount of content and it has to be practical.

And I'm like, I hear, I hear you and I see you fellow Capricorn energy. Yes. I'm like, there we go. Just so that is a perfect example. Yeah. You know, of the, the energies of Capricorn. Yes, I have a a, a Capricorn Moon and, and Venus actually. But you know, the fact that I'm, you know, doing 12 house stuff in a very Capricorn, like how can we make it practical Yeah.

And useful. Right. And how structured and, and like, like nothing too structured, but at least some kind of form. Right? Yeah. And the other one that was really important for me was, you are taking your power back. Yes. This is that, you know? Yeah. And I had one so has been the other one who's, who's been part of it, right?

Yeah. And I remember with him, he said something that had [00:21:00] happened and I said, oh my gosh, this is amazing. Like, this means you can recreate this Yes. Over and over and over again. Yes. And at first it was, you know, it was that kind of subconscious like, well, you know, and I'm like, no, no, no. You did this.

Yes. You, yeah. You know, and then it was like, okay, thank, yeah, that's true. You know, like, and I think so often we forget that, you know? And so so that's why I've also created a community alongside this. And it's not, it's not it's not anything that you need to join but for those who want to, you know, to share with, share their experience with others, yes.

And I obviously have realized, right, doing it in a group, right? Yeah. Yeah. I, that it does with, with so many things. It has so much benefit, you know, and, and hearing like, oh, you had that experience. Wow. Because then you also realize, wow, I wonder what might be possible for me. Yes. You know, that's why I love a bad community.

Exactly. Exactly. And I do think that if, if these feelings of [00:22:00] like, oh, you know, the, the, the slightly more challenging feelings of like, oh, why did, why has that happened for that person? I'm not, you know, I think. Oh, something's coming up to be Yeah. You know, witnessed Yes. And, and dealt with, you know? Yeah.

Because I, I really feel that as long as you have this, this feeling of, oh, but why not me? And, and I mean, essentially I feel that stems from a a lack. It's lack. Yeah. It's like, oh, that person is getting it, but I, you know, but it's, there's enough for everyone. Yeah. You know? Exactly. Like there's abundance for everyone and it's gonna look different for you, right?

Yes. Yeah. Exactly. So, and I do, I do mention this in the tracks a couple of times because really the, the super conscious scripting in itself, I, I want it to be like, you know, joyful and I want you to discover like, you know, whatever that planet is for you. Yeah. And I, when you describe, you know, your venous energy to me Yeah.

I'm like, that's your super conscious. How beautiful. Yeah, I know. It was so quick [00:23:00] too. I was like, my God, I didn't even like. I didn't kind of know what to expect. Yeah. But literally, as soon as you had said, 'cause you'd sent me a voice note and I was like, all right, I'm just gonna check in. And that was the two things that straight away.

And I was like, and yet I can stay in my head arguing with myself about the right answer. Four days. Yeah. But to me it's like everyone's shared their, you know, and it's been so different from everyone. Yes. Yeah. You know, for everyone. And it's just so beautiful. 'cause to me it's like, well that is like, you know, you know your visual representation Yes.

Of your super conscious. And they're always beautiful and they are always powerful of course, because it's your higher mind. Why would you hire mind? Not anything else, you know? Yes. So good. So good. But I will say, because it's because we are tapping on the door, knocking on the door of the 12th house, you know, it's not always going to be potentially, you know.

[00:24:00] Flowy. And you know, like what I'm saying is that there can be things that come up that are uncomfortable. Yeah. That feel that give you discomfort. Mm-hmm. And I think that is, that is normal because again, the, the, the 12th house is the house of the unconscious. Right? Yes. Yeah. But obviously if that becomes too overwhelming then, you know, seeking Yes.

You know, deeper help might be, you know, but I, I don't, I don't like to focus on that too much because, you know, there's so, there's so much around trauma work and, and it's like, you know, I think we can do things for ourselves that necessarily aren't always that heavy. Yes. Right. I agree. Yeah. But that experience could, yeah.

Those feelings might come up as, as, yes. I mean, I think that part of the. For me, like there has absolutely been lots of things come into, I've said to someone the other day, there's this, there's an ad in Australia at the moment, which is like for an insurance agent and [00:25:00] it's this guy in a lighthouse and he's helping people like discover things.

Like he finds an earring for someone, but then he like chases away a wolf. And the whole thing is like, we were always there for you. Oh, okay. But actually feel like at the moment there's like a big lighthouse in my awareness going, look at that shit. That's not an alignment. Look at that. And it is like very, very, and it is uncomfortable, but it's uncomfortable in a way of like, I know when there is this much coming to the surface that so close to the flip side of it, which is like.

If I can just hold myself in the energy of, you know, being in that high self energy I know that what's on the other side is massive expansion and yeah, I have a very clear sense that I will not know myself even in two months, let alone 12 months, like that, that, like, that, that something rapid. And I do think that like I'm all for trauma work and being aware of shadow, et cetera.

And I do think that we also need to practice, you know, personal responsibility of like, oh yeah, if that [00:26:00] is the case for you and you are unable to hold yourself in. Yeah. Whatever way feels safe for you, then it is absolutely your responsibility to seek support that feels nourishing to you and that is everybody as well.

So, yeah. Yeah, I think that that's important to say. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Do you wanna just to tie it all up, well, first of all, we're gonna include all of the links to everything. So the 12 house, 12 house, super conscious scripting. Scripting and the community. Yeah. And also your Instagram link.

'cause if people are like, Hmm, yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. My feeling is that there is more here for me. Yeah. Yeah. Be able to contact you. Can you share a couple of other like the things that have unfolded for people, like in our little experimental group? Yeah. Yeah. So for one, for one woman, it was so she's really also been able to like just.

See, what is the, she calls it mind junk, right? Yeah. So the, the, the voices that just aren't helpful and that, you know mm-hmm. As you [00:27:00] expand, they're like, no, we're not gonna do that. Scary stuff. I'm getting loud. But, you know, really being able to see it clearly and then be like, you are not invited. You weren't invited to this party, so, you know, get back, you know, from where you belong.

Yes. So that really was, has been big for her, right? Yes. And then outta, seemingly outta the blue, but, you know, we don't believe in coincidences. Yeah, exactly. She, she, she got a, a job offer. Yes. That was just, you know, you know, she's a homeschooling mother, so, you know, she wants to be at home. She doesn't wanna go somewhere physically, and she doesn't want to, you know, it was, it's, it's it's a project basis.

So, you know, she can basically manage her hours is, you know, basically you do, you perform fine, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And all of that. So it was just, and it was. In, in a, in a area of work that she really wants to go deeper in and she gets paid for it, basically. Right. And it fell in her lap. She did not apply for a job.

Yeah. Yeah. And when [00:28:00] she, when she kind of thought back on the timing of things, it was kind of, so she's like, this is why. I know it's connected to the super conscious. Right. Yeah. Well that's what I'm like, I, it just only occurred to me. Yeah. Like last night when I was thinking about this interview, I'm like, yeah, okay.

It's amazing. It's amazing. It's quite, quite wild. Another woman, she's had some amazing experiences with boundary setting. Yes. You know, and seeing how that's really positively impacted, you know, her work environment. Yeah, of course. And then she says, you know, this might be a little thing, but it's not a big thing because we all do it too often and that's how we get sucked in.

But she says before she goes to bed now, you know, before. The super conscious is scripting. Mm-hmm. She would just be scrolling mindlessly on her phone like so many of us do. Right. And she was like, no, I'm, this is my time to do, you know, the super subconscious thing. And then she would, and she's like, it's just completely, you know, it, it helps her ground and, you know, and, and like [00:29:00] just end the day on a much better note.

Right. And just obviously physiologically and everything, not having the blue light and, you know. Yeah. Exactly. That aside. Exactly. But also not feeding your brain with all of the shitty news and social media half to Yeah. Like exactly. She's like, I'm gonna connect. She's got two planets in her 12 house.

She's like, I'm gonna connect with 'em and see what they're after kind of thing. Yeah. So cool. And, and, and then another woman, she's, she had, she was like, oh, these are small changes. But when I read them I'm like, okay, okay. They might be small to you, but they're pretty significant to me, you know, and it was just a, and a lot of it was.

So this woman's self-belief was around self-worth and every single thing was connected to it. Mm-hmm. How she showed up for herself, you know, like saying previously wish she would've stayed quiet, she didn't. Yes. Right. Or like, you know, she finally took hold of that like appointment that she'd been putting off, you know?

Yes. Because she felt like, oh, well, you know, no, no, I am a priority [00:30:00] self devotion. Right. And she's a mother of two small children, so I get that. You know, you just, oh yeah. I'll just sweep that under the rug for now, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'll be at the bottom of the list for the next 20 years. Yes. You know? So all of those things, she was like, but I know that that is connected to, you know, again, it's being conscious.

Yes. You know, I mean, we, yeah. I think what's come to the forefront, I mean, I know myself that I, I there are like, I've lived my life. You know, unconsciously. Yeah. Most of us do. Yeah. But this has really shown me like, oh, to what extent, you know? Yeah. That's what I think with all the, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. And then for myself, I've had like, you know, both inner and outer manifestations or, or, or shifts, let's call them.

I prefer, call it, I prefer that word. Where, you know, just things that [00:31:00] shifted on the external where, you know, I just got gifted with the most amazing generosity, you know? Yeah. 'Cause so, so one of my, so two of my, my two beliefs that I have been wanting to shift and that are shifting are wealth and intimacy.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. And I like the, and you know, the wealth can be. Or so many different things. And so many things, right? Yeah. Yeah. But quite early on in doing the, the super subconscious myself, I just saw things happen, you know, on the external. So I, again, I don't think that's a coincidence. Yeah. And then things have definitely shifted, you know, in in the intimacy area.

Yeah. Yeah. And, and it's just things how I, you know, just how do I perceive pleasure? Yeah. You know? Yeah. What is it that I'm really afraid of? Like, what is the fear here, you know? And always just seeing this very empowered Mars, you know? And Mars is a planet of what's it called? Sexual desire? Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's quite interesting. Yeah. It's, isn't it actually? Yeah. [00:32:00] Yeah. Anyway, so yeah. So many beautiful shifts, but I, I think the main ones are the inner ones. Mm-hmm. You know, and those are the ones that then, as you feel the shift, because you just live your life differently, I mean, now. Yes.

Yeah. My external reality has been quite challenging for, for various reasons now. Mm-hmm. For, for a number of months, and yet I don't think I've ever felt as peaceful Yeah. As calm. Yeah. As happy. Like, I'm genuinely, it's not this like, all right, slap on my happy face. Yeah. Let's play the GLAD game. Yeah.

The, like the mental conflict, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Which can happen, like, for example, saying, I am wealthy, I'm wealthy, and then my subconscious of like, well, okay, you know, that's, that, that is a mental conflict, right? Yes, yes. Like, I don't, there's none of that. There is like, like none of that. It's just, and, and just, [00:33:00] and I think this comes as a, as just a very positive side effect when you, of go into more stillness, into more moments of stillness, is that you just become more present aware. You know? Yeah. And you, yeah. Because the job of the unconscious is to pull, you E either forward into like what the fuck's gonna happen, or backwards into, I should have done it better, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.

Yeah. And yeah, that's what I find too. It's like, yeah, you can just say present. Yeah. Like the amount of times I've like felt, and I, I feel the same as you. Like my external reality definitely has challenges at the moment that are mm-hmm. Undeniable. But the center of me feels Yeah. The most grounded and the most, yeah.

Like I've got myself like, yeah. And I, you know, I used to work with a mentor that used to use the term like holding the pose, like just holding the pose of a woman who already has Yeah. Yes. What she wants or what she desires or whatever. And that has been so clear to me. And I think that that is just being more in that.

Super conscious connection. [00:34:00] Yeah. Because it is very easy if you don't have the connection to self to believe Yeah. All the other stuff that your brain is doing to try and keep you safe. Exactly. Exactly. And that just is a shit show. Yeah, exactly. And, and, you know, so much of this is like, it comes down to belief, right?

Like, what is it, what is it that we believe to be true? And, and if you think about it, you know, like the, just taking away ourself, but like, okay, what do I believe about certain things happening? Mm-hmm. In, you know, in, in the outer world. Yeah. Yeah. If I don't believe in that thing, I, I don't do it.

Mm-hmm. And so therefore it's not even in my reality. Yeah, exactly. So, but then, so then why do I believe these, like self-limiting beliefs, you know what I mean? It's like, it's a thing. Yeah. Yeah. So, so much is about belief and I think you know that saying, oh, I'll believe it when I see it. Of course they've, you know, that's what's been kind of shoved down our throats, but it really is.[00:35:00] 

I'll see it when I believe it. Yeah, exactly. You know, and until you believe it, you're not gonna see it. Exactly. And, and if you're waiting to see it, then you've lost the point because it's about holding the energy. Yeah. Well before it manifests down. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. So cool. It's so cool. I, I, it's so funny, isn't it, when you're in conversation and I'm like, ah, I'm getting like all these different layers of things that are like, things that I have known through different lenses.

And I love how, so often when I'm doing interviews like this, because I'm always speaking to paradigm shifters, there's like this like. I always say the apple strudel, like all of this understanding that's dropping into consciousness. Yeah. All of these different individuals that is like part of this, like, you know, I used to say like the, like freedom is my highest value, but the only true path to freedom is self-mastery.

Like, not free, you can have anything in your external reality, but if you, if you're not free Yeah. Internal, then you're not free. Yeah, no, I agree. I totally agree. Yeah, [00:36:00] it's a perfect, the perfect example. It's, yeah. Thank you so much for coming to share your magic. Oh, you're very welcome. It's been, any closing delight, any closing comments that you wanna share with people?

Obviously come and do the super, super conscious scripting because why would you not after the, yeah. And, and, and. Yeah. And, and if you do feel that you want extra support, that is also why the community is there. You know, I do like, yeah, I mean, I did get initially when in, in the, in the experiment group or whatever you wanna call it, the adventure group, right?

Yeah. You know, there, there was, there were a lot of reflections of the questions back and forth and, and things like that. And I, and I do think that kind of helps you know, because we do have our conscious minds and we do have our left brain and it wants to Yes. You know, understand and yeah. So yeah, if you feel that that support is needed, then, then yeah, please, please join the community.

But yeah. Closing thoughts. I just feel [00:37:00] getting to, in a stand ourselves better, and I feel like that is really, really what it's about. Yeah. You know, and yeah, if you, you know, if people are having challenges externally with people and. And so much is projection as well, you know? Yeah, exactly. I really, I really, so it's, I, I've got a much better at not taking things personally because I'm like, oh, okay, that's not my thing, but it's come my way, you know?

And but that happens when we don't have a needs met. That's essentially what it is. Right. So, exactly. And, you know, I am a big believer in whatever you believe about yourself will just be reflected back to you as well. So there's often like, you know, yes. People project and also there's an energetic, like, you know, I feel like I'm not worthy.

I'm gonna attract people that treat me as unworthy. That's Yeah. The way that it works. Yeah. Yeah. Until we change the way that we Yeah. Connect. Yeah. And, and, and by doing that, that is how, I mean, I can, I [00:38:00] can, yes. There is so much going on out there and, you know, if you let, allow yourself to go to get distracted.

But I also feel like, you know, consciousness is. Leveling up. Yeah, I agree. You know and it's really beautiful and that's really when the deeper changes can happen, you know, so. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. I think yes, there is more and more people that understand what's really going on. Yeah. We should say too, Nic obviously we talked about it at, at the originally, but you also have a true cial astro chart calculator on your website if I'm not Yes, yes, yes, that's correct.

Yeah. Come and do that. And also obviously you do reading, so what sort of things do you do? Natal? You do kids? So I do, yes, I do natal readings. I look at kids' charts and when I look at kids charts, I look at, and the youngest I've done so far has been a 2-year-old, I think. Yeah, yeah. And you're like, oh my gosh, well, why would you look at, you know, but it's, when I look at a children's charts, I look at their needs.

Yes. What are their emotional needs? What [00:39:00] are their. You know, solar kind of life force vitality needs. Mm-hmm. What are their learning needs, right? Yeah. Because whatever needs we don't get met is what we then end, end up become the voids. Yeah. Yeah. And it ends up becoming what we project. Right. So and I will say I have three children and knowing my children's charts has helped me no end because my first born's, like emotional needs are very different to mine.

Which, you know, and, and because it's the moon, it's what we instinctively do, right? Yeah. Yeah. And what I would instinctively do is not what he needs. So it's really kind of stopped me, you know, and be like, become very mindful. Yes. You know, to make sure that okay, he get, he gets those needs met. So, children's charts.

I also can do relationship, right? Yes. Looking at relationships and the composite, which is. A chart of the relationship Yes. If it were its own entity. Yes. So a bit different to like, compatibility so to [00:40:00] speak. Yeah. So cool. So many different ways to see things. So many, so many. Also solar returns, which you can do, you know, once a year to see what the upcoming forecast is.

Yes. Relocation. Yeah, I mean there's just, there's quite a few things that you can do in, in Natal in natal readings as well. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Do you wanna just say verbally out loud? They will be in the show notes, but just for people that are looking for you, let, let's just do website verbally, so if people are in the car or something because connected website is just www.theauthenticastrologer.com.

Perfect. And then on Instagram, just look up, just type in the authentic astrologer and I should come up good. Thank you, Nic. Oh, thank you so much for having me. I, I loved it. Very cool to chat with Yeah. People that are outside the box and also like, to me you speak the language of like putting the power back in the individual's hands.

Mm-hmm. Me, I feel like that is the first step in all of the [00:41:00] changes of the new paradigms that need to be built is absolutely disconnect from external authority and external conditioning and external hierarchy and external bullshit that, and come back. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Oh, could I do one more shout out actually?

I mean, it's kind of kind. It is. It's, it's, it's been inspired by me. Yes. Obviously because, you know, and also my husband's always been into astrology, but again, oh yes, I been in the deep dive, but, so he's created this tool called herbal charts.com. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And you go in, you put in your birth details and tropical, or you know, you have a, you have a, you have an option.

Option, yeah. Tropical true C cereal. Yeah. And when your chart pops up, it also gives you so the free version gives you the top three herbs, spices, yes. Cell salts, essential oils. We are gonna add some other things as well. Yeah, it is so cool. Cool. Pop up. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, just to show you [00:42:00] like, what, what is, what could be good for you.

Yeah. And interestingly, you know, people have said that, oh my gosh, I was already drawn to this. But that's what I, yeah. The three that were the main things. Now I can't remember the three of them. I think it was Kaile. Some sort of adaptogen, which I can't remember which one was, but if I was like, I'm taking two of them already, and Yeah.

So it's, you know, so you instinctively know, right? Yeah. Yeah. But for those of us who wonder, you know, it's, it's, it's a good tool. And then I think it's a subscription. So monthly or yearly? Yes. Subscription. I think the monthly one is just under 10 US dollars. Yeah. But then you can also access progress and transit charts.

Ah, that's right. Because you might be, so the progress would be good for more like, you know, longer term. Mm-hmm. Kind of remedies, I guess. Yes. And then the transits is if, you know, if you're tracking the lunar cycle, you know? Yes. Like for your lunar month, you could see what comes up. Right. That's so cool.

Yeah. And we're gonna be doing collabs and things with, with people as well. So [00:43:00] yeah. My husband's got pretty big. Visions for it. Yeah. I, I just love that, like I love it when I see someone doing something with two systems I've never seen, like overlaid and I'm like, oh, it's so cool. Yeah. Because so many, like, because I'm a lover and longtime student of traditional Chinese medicine as well, like Yes.

Yeah. There's so much of the human design chart, and obviously there's an arching influence as well. Yeah. Yeah. There's so much that. Like when I'm, when I'm speaking with a client and noticing patterns and things, like I am like, oh, I really wanna pull in like the lifestyle aspects of this. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

You know, the five element theory and everything. So I just love that, you know, we can overlap things in ways that have never been done before. Yeah. I also think too, Nic, we didn't say also a price point for your subscript your subscript, my god, I can't speak. It's like we're been floating around in the super conscious for the super conscious scripting offer.

Yeah. So to get the framework, it's 27 us. Yeah. US [00:44:00] dollars. Yeah. And then to join the community, it's 27 US. Mm-hmm. Per month. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, there's like chat obviously, you know, chat support, but also monthly calls to like, to share and things like that. Yeah. It's so good. It is community like integration.

Of what you've actually experienced yourself. Yeah. And actually seeing like, oh, it's not just me that has that fear and it's not just me that wants to shift this belief. And it's not just me that like, you know, seeing someone else, like you said before, like go like this is how I have shifted. It just opens up that field of possibilities, like one degree.

So that can see. Yeah. Well, she's just like me. She's just a human being. Yeah. Like my husband wants to say, they just put their pants on the same as everyone else. Pet. Like, he's such a leveler. He's like, when I'm like, oh my God, someone's so amazing. He's like, yeah, she still puts her pants on the same way you, I love it.

Grounded. So grounded. Oh my God. I love it. I love it. I also, in that community, I also do share because I do feel like, okay, [00:45:00] is there, is there something I can do to like, help you know, kind of create something into the, into my physical reality? Yes. So I do guide around the new moon because the New Moon is a very powerful wishing Oh yes.

Period. So that's another thing as well. But maybe we could talk about that. Let's do another episode, because I just realized my granddaddy power period is as we're on the plane. Oh, really? Is that when it's starts? I'm sure it's like May. I've got it in my calendar. Anyway. Interview and everyone's like granddaddy power, period.

So that's a seed for the next episode. Yeah. Next time you see Nic and I I will have a, the wrong one, I will probably put a t-shirt on my top half just so that people aren't shocked. Thank you, Nic. Bye bye. Thank you so much, Kylie. See ya.