In this episode with guest Josh Porthouse, a veteran who faced an identity crisis post-deployment, we uncover the role of personal values in shaping self-worth, the art of boundary-setting, and the practice of mindfulness. Listen as he shares his journey of rediscovery, how it centers on the tenets of personal values, and how self-doubt can be a stumbling block.
We explored the value of time, the need for boundary-setting, and the ability to bounce back from setbacks and morph them into positive experiences. And it's not just a personal battle; institutions, organizations, and society play key roles in bolstering resilience. We also discussed the intricate relationship between resilience, compassion, and trauma-sensitive leadership, especially pertinent for leaders in today's world.
Josh Porthouse is the founder of SDYT Media, a media production company highlighting the impact of personal values through print, digital, and spoken media, and the host of Transacting Value, a podcast and AM radio show highlighting conversations with contributors about the relevance of personal values in burnout, boundaries, self-worth, and mental resiliency. He is active in the US Marine Corps and has used his career in the infantry to develop his self-image, self-reliance, and resiliency. After an identity crisis and breakdown left him a divorced, long-distanced father, he decided that increased distance does not have to equal a decreased impact.
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In this episode with guest Josh Porthouse, a veteran who faced an identity crisis post-deployment, we uncover the role of personal values in shaping self-worth, the art of boundary-setting, and the practice of mindfulness. Listen as he shares his journey of rediscovery, how it centers on the tenets of personal values, and how self-doubt can be a stumbling block.
We explored the value of time, the need for boundary-setting, and the ability to bounce back from setbacks and morph them into positive experiences. And it's not just a personal battle; institutions, organizations, and society play key roles in bolstering resilience. We also discussed the intricate relationship between resilience, compassion, and trauma-sensitive leadership, especially pertinent for leaders in today's world.
Josh Porthouse is the founder of SDYT Media, a media production company highlighting the impact of personal values through print, digital, and spoken media, and the host of Transacting Value, a podcast and AM radio show highlighting conversations with contributors about the relevance of personal values in burnout, boundaries, self-worth, and mental resiliency. He is active in the US Marine Corps and has used his career in the infantry to develop his self-image, self-reliance, and resiliency. After an identity crisis and breakdown left him a divorced, long-distanced father, he decided that increased distance does not have to equal a decreased impact.
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Whatever it is, find a way to get past it and push down on the pedal the first time and you say, oh man, but my son's watching this and I want to be a good example for him. Or my entire team has been working on this bike, or they've been training me, or we've been doing whatever together to build up my physical stamina and fitness, or whatever applies. I don't want to let them down, and maybe teamwork's about you viewers. Whatever, it is that moment where you lean in and you push the pedal.
Manya Chylinski:
Hello, welcome to Notes on Resilience. I'm your host, Manya Chylinski. My guest today is Josh Porthouse. He's the founder of SDYT Media, a production company that highlights the impact of personal values through print, digital and spoken media, and he's the host of the Transacting Value podcast and AM radio show that looks at the relevance of personal values in burnout, boundaries, self-worth and resiliency, and that's what we talked about today Resiliency, the role of self-worth and boundaries, specifically in resiliency. I think you're really going to enjoy our conversation and don't forget, find us on Apple Podcasts and subscribe or leave a review and check the show notes. I've got a Google form that I would love to get your feedback about the podcast what's working, what isn't working, what do you wish we'd be doing differently? Thanks so much for joining us. Enjoy the show. Hi, josh, I'm so excited that you and I are talking today. Thanks for being here.
Josh Porthouse:
Yeah, of course, no problem. I appreciate you having me on, especially Notes on Resiliency. I think it's an underappreciated topic, so I appreciate you just existing and having this. Yeah, thank you.
Manya Chylinski:
And before we dive into the topic of resiliency and we learn about you and your work, I would like to know if you could have any superpower. What would that be? Man you opened with it.
Josh Porthouse:
I was hoping I was going to have some time to process. Okay, all right. So here's the thing and I think this is important for clarity when I'm interpreting a superpower, I'm thinking about things that I can't normally do or I wouldn't be able to attain on my own. It's like the next level of ability, and I think what would be really cool is if I were able to actually control my emotions. You know what I'm saying To have an opportunity or an ability. I guess consciously and I'm not saying self-control there's a base layer here. I think that everybody can obviously do you just, I don't know, you don't smile or you don't cry or whatever, but in my head there's so many different thoughts. It's almost like there's more motion when I'm still. There's more ideas when I'm not trying to think of them, those kinds of things. I wish I could control how my brain is processing the subconscious efforts. To tap into that, I guess, is more what I'm getting at. Wow.
Manya Chylinski:
I love it. I want that superpower too. So when you figure that out, please let me know.
Josh Porthouse:
Yeah, definitely.
Manya Chylinski:
The closest I've ever gotten is meditation, and it's still not even close to what I think you are describing.
Josh Porthouse:
I've walked on the beach. I mean, I spent most of my Marine Corps career in the infantry, so I've walked on a lot of beaches and deserts and nature trails, so to speak, and there's been a lot of opportunities where, the middle of the night matter of fact quick story if I got a second but the middle of the night, matter of fact I was in the Rockies, or just Southwest on one of their chains, but either way. So I was in the Rockies and we were on this exercise and we're all carrying packs and we're walking, and at one point we had to get to the top, the summit of this sort of lower ridge, and the only thing we could see was these peaks of the mountains and the fog sort of cloud layer was below us and you couldn't see through it. Everything above us this was the middle of the night in the winter everything above us was cloudless, it was stars, it was the moon, it was just.
Josh Porthouse:
It was a moment where I think I can tie back to. I can think back to and we call it in the military, going internal, and usually it's a negative connotation, it's just you can't focus because you're so overwhelmed or stressed or fatigued or something, but in that moment I think I went internal just for the sake of all and beauty, and you don't get that every day. But I consider that kind of a form of meditation when you're able to find those moments and then remember them Also kind of similar yeah.
Manya Chylinski:
Wow, that sounds amazing. Thank you for sharing that story. Now tell us a little bit about you. What's your story, what do you do and why are you and I talking about resiliency today?
Josh Porthouse:
Sure. So for everybody listening, initially Manya and I got in touch, I think maybe even a few months ago now, or longer at this point, and then we finally talked, maybe a month or two, maybe a month, six weeks, something or other ago from where we're at now, and two years ago, or maybe even further back than that, I essentially had this identity crisis, and I don't mean like, oh man, pumpkin spice latte prices are going up, how can I do this? You know, like it wasn't that chaotic, it wasn't that detrimental to my life, but you know, from a psychological perspective, I didn't know who I was. I had just gotten back from a deployment to a combat zone, and so every day, especially in the infantry you're redlining your stress tolerance every day.
Josh Porthouse:
It had a necessity, but it was a thing, and so over the course of I don't know what it was call it seven, nine months, six months, whatever of the amount of time we were there, eventually I just grew accustomed to it. The routine for the sake of survival, in a few different senses became the norm and the stress that I had grown accustomed to had become the norm. That tolerance for stress was my everyday fallback baseline. Then I get back to the states. I couldn't function, I couldn't socialize. It wasn't like I was wired tightly, I just didn't leave the house. I couldn't communicate with people.
Josh Porthouse:
On the flight back it was in Afghanistan, and on the flight back from Afghanistan to, at the time, california, I remember sitting on a plane, looking out the window and just thinking about everything that we had encountered, for better and for worse. The people I'd met in villages. I'd sat and had tea with some villagers and just talked. I fed food to a goat for a weekend and then we go out and had it for dinner the next night. All sorts of experiences I hadn't had before that were really cool and it really need opportunity to get to know people as people.
Josh Porthouse:
The more I thought about it on that flight and when I finally got back to the states, I realized I didn't know who I was, who I wanted to be. If I were to have people come into my house, how would I react? Then I realized because I'm thinking about how would I react and who would I be and how should I react. I'm probably overthinking it already. That turned me on to this. My stress tolerance is too high and my stress response is causing all of these other issues and eventually I broke down.
Josh Porthouse:
I ended up losing sight of who I was. I got burnt out at work. I couldn't manage my time, I couldn't manage my energy. I ended up getting divorced. I became a long distance father and everything as I thought was comfortable was falling apart. Contrarily, I was moving farther from pleasure towards pain and I started self-medicating in that process because it was the only other option. I saw that I knew and I imitated what I saw In that. I think that's why we're talking Fast forward a couple years now.
Josh Porthouse:
Two years ago, I started a podcast called Transacting Value Podcast. The whole reason was just teach my son about values and character. Because he didn't want to listen to me on the phone, so I put it on YouTube and then he stopped watching me on YouTube. So I made a podcast. You know what I'm saying? It just was the thing and I was chasing him around To teach him about morals and values and character. Then, as that grew, about a year ago I formed a media production company SDYT Media.
Josh Porthouse:
The focus is to create material to showcase the impact of a value system on self-worth and mental resiliency, because we may be going through life alone, but we're growing through life by ourselves, together. We're all in our own heads. That's what I said earlier. I think it's an underrated topic, but it made all the difference for me. So far, I've talked to over 100 people on my podcast and now I have a talk radio show out of Florida as well, transacting Value Radio. That's what we talk about. There are so many people that feel the same way that I've never met from different countries that I talked to. Different perspectives, backgrounds, biases, cultures, whatever. Everybody says the same thing. So I figure any opportunity I have to get on the shows like yours and talk about ways to better develop and refine our sense of self and mental resilience then yes, we need to do that.
Josh Porthouse:
Everybody's going through the same problems. Why aren't we helping each other, right? So that's the long-winded version, but that's why I'm here.
Manya Chylinski:
Wow, that's such an amazing journey. I love that this started out. Your YouTube channel and your podcast started out with wanting to communicate better with your son, like. I hope that's going well. I hope he's listening.
Josh Porthouse:
I'm not entirely sure if he's listening and he's nine now, so I can almost guarantee he's not Right but now he definitely has grown a lot and whether or not he remembers what I say. There's two cool things about this process not to steamroll your spotlight, but there's two cool things about this process. One, in finding ways to communicate more effectively or whatever ineffectively with him. It's been my therapy. It's like I can't remember the saying, but for people that are working to teach other people, they end up learning in the process. Yes, so that's been helping quite a bit in gaining clarity and presence for myself too, and my goals and everything else and who I am as a person, my self-worth in trying to teach him about it. And now globally, right streaming on broadcast media like this right.
Josh Porthouse:
But number two. What's really cool about that process in being? Able to communicate all of my Perspective and values and everything else. He doesn't have to listen to it now. It's frozen in time. It's broadcast out.
Josh Porthouse:
He can access it when I'm dead and it's there, if you can find it and somebody tells me it exists. Right, so it's. It's an enduring legacy with a positive message, a positive impact. A lot like your show, you are also Contributing to the longevity of the American culture, way of life, perspective, mental health like it's such a cool, almost staggering perspective I think to take. But it that's. The responsibility that we have is as broadcasters.
Josh Porthouse:
Mm-hmm and, and I think that not to oversell it, but I think that's Part of the appeal to and so that's why we owe it to people to have a positive message and to make attempt to make Some sort of an educational entertainment, whatever right some sort of an impact.
Josh Porthouse:
Yeah we're like Star Wars with Han Solo when he's frozen in the door. Oh, anyway, I feel like I feel like that's what we're doing in these, in these messages, you know, we're encapsulating Emotion, we're encapsulating resonance in our, in our messaging, which is super cool, that you know what that's. A cool superpower too, and we actually did it.
Manya Chylinski:
Congrats. That is a cool superpower and I like the way that you describe that. I've not thought about it in exactly those terms, but I I love thinking about Sort of the impact that you know your broadcasting and this podcast can have and it's going to be out there when somebody needs it. It might not be today or, you know, in the first week, but at some point they're gonna find this and find what they need. As someone who has also gone through difficult times, I find it interesting how we Kind of glom on to the things that help us in that moment.
Manya Chylinski:
I don't know about you, but I went through a phase in my survivor journey where I was all about the inspirational quotes and those posters with you know, you know people climbing a mountain, and then there was an inspirational quote. I just couldn't get enough of them and that was I kind of got me through probably about a whole year of my life. And you just think, you know people say these things or they find these quotes and you don't know the impact it's gonna have on somebody. I guess that's what I'm getting at.
Josh Porthouse:
I 100% agree with you. You know we don't know in this, in this industry, right, broadcast media. We're talking for anybody unfamiliar, not to insult your intelligence, mind yeah, but when we're talking broadcast media, right, broadcasting these messages out, you know what? Even more specifically, the Federal Communication Commission, the FCC, united States government, is Qualifying broadcast media is one person, one party, one entity out to many, or one person, one person, but it's not many to many.
Josh Porthouse:
Yeah, that's different, right, and so you know this Form of broadcasting. There's no way to know who's gonna hear what we're saying. There's also, you know, for better or worse. There's also no way to know who's going to find resonance in what we're saying.
Josh Porthouse:
It's an art form right it's humanities wrapped in a social science, and so how do we manage that effectively? I don't know. Time will tell. I don't know how effective any of this is gonna be. What I do know is Finding perspectives like the one you and I just discussed, mm-hmm, where this could help somebody in the future, helps me value the amount of time I spend on it. It helps me mitigate burnout in putting this together. It helps me establish boundaries.
Josh Porthouse:
You know, there's some days where I say, man, I just need to stare at a wall. Today I don't have the creative juice left. I just I don't know. I don't know what to say, what to write, how to do whatever, fill in the blank. But then you got to try something. You find a different outlet. Maybe it's just going for a walk, anything Right. Maybe it's meditation, like we talked about earlier, maybe it's, I don't know. You exercise, or wherever you go to fight your demons and get blood flowing right, and in those moments, the anomalies to our coping style, baselines. I guess we can get creative juice back, and I think that's what gives us the opportunity to be able to put material out there for people and, like I said, avoid burnout, set boundaries and ultimately build some resiliency in this enduring process of broadcasting and podcasting and media creation.
Manya Chylinski:
Speaking of resilience. How do you define resilience?
Josh Porthouse:
There's a difference and again, this is obviously all my perspective. I'm not a doctor, I'm not educated in any of this stuff, this is just a student of life. And I think there's a difference between endurance and resilience. Endurance is your ability, it's like aerobic cardio, right, you don't redline, you're breathing a little bit heavy, you're sweating a little bit and you're just. You can sustain that pace for a relatively decent amount of time, amount of repetitions, whatever the workload, the pace of creativity, the fill in the blank. Now I think that's endurance. I think resilience comes in when, in spite of whatever that pace is, you hit an obstacle, you hit a setback, you sprain your ankle, you know, you get comments on your media from strangers you've never met. Right, the child actor phenomenon, right? Or the Instagram and TikTok theories right.
Josh Porthouse:
Where you put these messages out there and people say, dude, what are you doing? Yeah, or worse, or worse. I had a guy come on transacting value. His name's Casey Rice. He's a standup comedian and last year I think it was, anyway, he came on the show and he said something to the effect of Casey I'm sorry, I'm gonna paraphrase this probably poorly, but he said something to the effect of the worst thing you can do for a standup comedian is not not laugh, is not heckle, it's actually not react at all, because then there's no feedback.
Josh Porthouse:
And so you don't know if you failed you get in your head, you start causing grief or depression or any of these other things. Right, comedians make some of the happiest people in the world but, generally speaking, are living internally in their heads and so you know to manage that. I think a lot of that parallel concept is in media creation as well. Because what do you do? This is sort of rhetorical you don't have to answer. But you know what do you do if nobody responds to your show, if it gets zero listens on an episode or zero plays on YouTube, except for the one you did to double check and make sure it uploaded. You know, like Right.
Manya Chylinski:
Where does that go?
Josh Porthouse:
It just sits there and fosters and I think that those moments when you find ways to get through them, I think that's resilience.
Manya Chylinski:
Okay, yeah, absolutely. Well, you know. You talk a lot about personal values and setting boundaries, and what's the relationship between those and resiliency?
Josh Porthouse:
We mean personal values, setting boundaries and resiliency. Yeah Well, I suppose you could think about it sort of as a slope Picture, some sort of. I don't know if you're familiar with BMX or skateboarding or any of that kind of stuff, but let's say BMX as an image, right? So you've got this dude on his bicycle and or whoever you prefer to picture, doesn't matter, but up on a bicycle, up on top of the slope evil conneval, if that's your thing and he's about to jump over these helicopters, right, and he's up on top of the ramp and then he goes down over the edge and he picks up speed and eventually the ramp takes back up a little bit so he can get some lift and then he jumps off the ramp over whatever obstacle lands on the downslope on the other side. Okay, so that's the image. For me, personal values are what get you peddling in the first place. There are the things where you sit there and you're like, okay, this is pretty high, that's pretty far. I feel pretty confident, I'm not gonna fall over.
Josh Porthouse:
But I don't know how this one's gonna go right. Those the doubt, the imposter syndrome. Like I said, it could be grief, could be sadness, doesn't even have to be a negative emotion. Maybe it's cockiness, maybe it's hubris, I don't know. Whatever it is when you stop and find a way to get past it and push down on the pedal the first time and you say, oh man, but my son's watching this and I wanna be a good example for him. Or my entire team has been working on this bike, or they've been training me, or we've been doing whatever together to build up my physical stamina and fitness, or whatever applies. I don't wanna let them down, and maybe teamwork's a value of yours. Whatever, it is that moment where you lean in and you push the pedal values and then, as you start going down the ramp and you're picking up speed right before it starts to go up, I think that's where boundaries come in, obviously not physical ones, because you're about to lose the ramp. But Right.
Josh Porthouse:
You need to right now, but I think that's where boundaries come in. As you go up that uptake on the ramp and you're up in the air not that you're thinking about this at that time, I'm sure you're not. There's adrenaline and tunnel vision and everything else happening. But when you're up in the air and you go to land, how are you celebrating? Are you gonna blow your entire winnings? Are you gonna go to sleep? I mean, you're probably gonna crash, I guess mentally, just from adrenaline crashing. But like, are you gonna go to sleep?
Manya Chylinski:
Are you?
Josh Porthouse:
gonna take a few days off. You just took the last six months in a training camp. You just had the last seven months on a deployment. You just had the last 30 days on a field off. Go spend time with your family.
Manya Chylinski:
Go home.
Josh Porthouse:
Yeah, how much more time are you gonna devote to your craft to get better compared to how much time you're gonna devote to whatever your support network is, or whoever these people are, or whatever?
Josh Porthouse:
you prioritize over that. I think that's where boundaries come in, how we handle our successes and failures and then work up, obviously, to that success. The resiliency, though, is what happens if you land poorly. What happens if, you know, evil Caneva lands on that down ramp and breaks a leg, or just eats it as he goes down. Get back on the bike, man, and what you do from that point to get back on the bike and, more importantly in my opinion, not the recovery to get back on the bike, but what you hold on to from the experience to turn it into a positive one. That's where resilience comes in, so it's sort of as far as imagery goes.
Josh Porthouse:
I think that's kind of the relation, not that they're all necessarily equal.
Manya Chylinski:
Right, right, and that's a great image for me. I definitely remember Evo Keneval, so I could picture all of that. Thank you for that image and for sharing. Now we're talking about personal resiliency. We're talking about how do I recover after I fall in or after something difficult has happened. What do you think is the role of our institutions and organizations or society in supporting us being resilient?
Josh Porthouse:
What is the role or what should the role be?
Manya Chylinski:
I don't think that's the same. What is the role and what do you think it should be?
Josh Porthouse:
Sure, I'm just a caveat, or whatever the word is here. I'm couching this off of a Western perspective as far as institutions go, and I'm also solely focusing on schooling Not a bunch of your friends at the skate park, or not a bunch of people on a sports team or something. I'm talking about an actual school institution for this particular point. Okay, so I think the current role is lacking. I think what it's been relegated to is sort of a profit motive, not for the sake of school, but for the sake of training and education.
Josh Porthouse:
You know, the higher you prioritize focusing on human capital, I think in any government throughout history, the more likely productivity increases and the more likely profits go up. Security, stability, defense, longevity of a culture, so on and so forth occur, and so schools, I think, are being more in the US, I think, are being more and more relegated to that role. Just educate people social sciences, natural sciences and math, teach those, because that's what's gonna generate profits and increase productivity. I think part of the role, at least in higher education, should also be to continue supporting humanities, arts, culture, poetry, sculpture, music, these types of things that give people a way to build depth and resonance, reach breadth, communicate without words, so to speak, because that's what builds our culture, that's what keeps us sort of grounded, that's the infrastructure for humankind to express how we interpret stresses and these other things. So the role of schools, when it comes to resiliency and developing these skillsets, I think should be to balance what we're exposed to, to better establish boundaries in an education system.
Josh Porthouse:
For how much time are we spending, or how much percentage of this curriculum Are we dedicating towards hard skills by soft skills? Or how well are we communicating it? Or the humanities, teachers and the Greek classics and all these other people being relegated to honors, ap, and so really, 10% of our student body's gonna go there, so nobody else is gonna get it anyway. Or the theater kids are gonna go out back and just smoke and then go in and put on a show that five kids are gonna go watch. Yeah, okay, that's probably true too, but how well is it marketed? How well is it publicized? And I think that could be improved maybe.
Manya Chylinski:
I think that could be a better role to fill. Yeah, oh, thank you for that perspective. I agree that the arts and the humanities are such an important piece to make us whole humans and I think when I think about resiliency, I think about, or when I think about encouraging resiliency, I think about, how we have to look at the whole person, not just the piece that is productive at work or the piece that is a parent or a student. We have to look at all of the influences on that's what makes us resilient or supports our resiliency. So what is an important lesson that you have learned about resilience through your experiences as a parent or in the military, as a broadcaster?
Josh Porthouse:
That I'm stronger than I give myself credit for. I tend to doubt myself and second guess a lot. Generally speaking I mean as best as I can remember the majority of my life I tend to I have tended to scapegoat emotional issues or talking to people. Social cues, relationships, anything that really involves people has always been difficult for me to understand. It's always been sort of this foreign concept because I'm generally more of a logical, rational type thinker than I am creative and that's shifted a bit over the last couple of years and that's been an uphill shift but out of necessity, because, more naturally though, I tend to be a bit more logical.
Josh Porthouse:
I can't reason my way through emotions. I can't reason my way through why people do things. It's just not accurate. It's like oil and water, and I think because of that it's really difficult for me to do anything that involves creativity or vulnerability, even like a podcast and broadcast and putting my opinions out there without being or without thinking I'm coming across as cocky, or am I saying I too much? Did I talk about me too much? Are people going to even listen to this? And then, like I said, doubt and imposter syndrome and all these other things come in lacking confidence, which ultimately then self-esteem and then my pride takes a hit, and then I get burned out and I quit.
Josh Porthouse:
And for what? Like I said before, I don't know if my son's gonna hear any of these. Yeah, I have no way to know. You know, I've written him a couple books so far. I don't know if he's ever gonna read them. Yeah, I, you know, put material out like this. I don't know if he's ever gonna hear it, and if he doesn't, that's fine. In the beginning I was worried about that. Now I don't mind because, because it's done More for me than I think I ever thought it could have to this point.
Manya Chylinski:
Mm-hmm.
Josh Porthouse:
And so the biggest lesson you know, of all the business things I've come across and technical skill sets I've come into as a person, I think the biggest lesson that I've learned is that I'm stronger than I think I am.
Manya Chylinski:
Yeah, that I think is a tough lesson for a lot of us to Internalize for all the reasons that you are explaining, imposter syndrome being looming large for a lot of us. So I did get that. Thank you for sharing. So we're getting close to the end of our time. I'm curious what would you tell your 18 year old self About resiliency?
Josh Porthouse:
about being so scared. Just go break everything Donald Trump, the White House. You know what I'm saying. Just go tear it apart and then see what works. I Think it's the only way you learn when you're unfamiliar with everything. And I'm not saying for the record, I don't know, I've never talked to Donnie and I don't know if he was scared when he took office, and it says no political affiliation to this point whatsoever. I don't care, people could think what they want, but as a person, in my interpretation, if you get into a situation you're unfamiliar with, that's potentially Overwhelming and you're trying to be successful at it. The only way and, I think, arguably the most efficient way you can figure out when are your strengths, where are your weaknesses, how can you improve, what can you improve? Who can you Bring into your sphere to help you compliment or supplement deficiencies?
Josh Porthouse:
Is you just break a bunch of stuff, and then you figure it out and you can't really be afraid of the consequences as long as there's enough controls in place to manage the chaos. Well then, what are you really losing? And in my opinion, since I brought up the example, when it comes to DC, there's plenty of controls in place. You know the president doesn't control spending. Well, so go say all the things you want about spending money. Yeah, not, what's it gonna hurt? But you're gonna give feedback and you're gonna learn, right, you know, and, and, and I think you can't be afraid to take chances. I was. I. I didn't know how I'd recover if I failed at something. I didn't have the insight, I was ignorant to me, and so I didn't know how I could succeed, succeed or rebuild. And so, in that, I was too afraid to take chances because I didn't want to fail, I didn't want to break anything, because I didn't want to replace anything. Right, you know, physically, metaphorically or otherwise right.
Josh Porthouse:
So I think what I would tell me almost 20 years ago is Exhale man, go break some stuff, everything will be okay, and I don't know if I would have listened to me then, but that's what I tell him.
Manya Chylinski:
Yes, that's the, that's the key, the the hard earned wisdom we get as we are older. I wonder sometimes if it's possible to hear it when you're younger, especially Thinking about you know, 18 and your early adulthood. I don't know if you could hear these things or if it would matter, even if you could. Yeah wisdom of the old wasted on the youth, I think, is the same, exactly, absolutely Well. Josh, thank you so much. This has been such a great conversation, and how can our listeners reach you and find out more about your work?
Josh Porthouse:
So the easiest option is you track down our website, transacting value podcast com. Now that will take you to everything about the podcast, but it also has an ability to message us through the site. You can get to me, or I have a team of freelancers that help me put the podcast together and ultimately manage your brand. Right now, if you want to get in touch with me for the sake of the radio show, you can email Transacting value radio at SDYT media comm and you'll be able to reach the leader via email. Also, if you just want to tune into the shows and maybe you're a behind-the-scenes kind of person and you don't want to talk to me at all, track me down on Facebook Transacting value. You'll be able to find it there and join the page or Follow along with the shows.
Josh Porthouse:
Monday mornings, 9 am Eastern Standard Time, transacting Value podcast up on all podcasting players streaming live, you know, each week. And then the radio show, actually, as of our conversation right now, goes up this evening, but Tuesday evenings, 5 pm Locally to Tampa, mwpr 1490 or its streams also at the same time, 5 pm Eastern Time at Transacting value podcast, comm slash radio. Now, get you up with me.
Manya Chylinski:
Excellent and I encourage our listeners Please check it out. It's a great show, josh. I love the perspective that you bring and thank you for being a guest on my podcast and talking about resiliency with me. I really appreciate it.
Josh Porthouse:
Monia, I waited close to a year for you to respond and get me a spot on your show, so the pleasure is mine.
Manya Chylinski:
Yes, awesome. All right, Thanks everybody, and we will talk to you soon. Thank you for listening. I hope you got as much out of this conversation as I did, so if you'd like to learn more about me, Manya Chylinski, I work with organizations to help understand how to create environments where people can thrive after difficult life experiences, and I do this through talks and consulting. I'm a survivor of mass violence and I use my experience to help leaders learn about resiliency, compassion and trauma. Sensitive leadership to build strategies to enable teams to thrive and be engaged amidst difficulty and turmoil. If this is something you want to learn more about, visit my website, www. manyachylinski. com, email me at manya@manyachylinski. com , or stop by my social media on LinkedIn and Twitter. Thanks so much.