Two Drinks In Again
Dave and Jeff have (at least) two drinks and talk about the goings-on in the Knoxville metro area. Sports, music, restaurants, movies, and really anything is up for discussion. Join us for some information and a lot of laughs.
Two Drinks In Again
Episode 30 - College Football, Hurricanes, and Gaming Galore
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Have you ever wondered how college football, hurricanes, and gaming all connect in one lively conversation? Grab a glass of Knob Creek bourbon and join us as we reminisce about our college days, where Red Breast Irish Whiskey paired with Kraft macaroni and cheese was the pinnacle of culinary delight. Dive into our nostalgic journey through thrilling Duke versus UNC matchups, iconic memories from the Duke-Miami game, and our mutual grumbling over those pesky late-night kickoffs. With the Florida game on Tennessee's horizon, we're all about pacing ourselves for another night of football excitement.
As we sip on our drinks, the conversation takes a turn, bringing the serious impact of hurricanes into focus. We recount the unexpected reach of Hurricane Helene into North Carolina and share heartfelt stories of resilience and recovery.
From the fast-paced development in Maryville and Knoxville to the rich tapestry of music and gaming that fills our lives, this episode touches on the multifaceted experiences that shape us. We explore the evolving landscape of our neighborhoods, ponder the balance of adult responsibilities with gaming indulgences, and revel in the timeless music of legends like Jeff Lynne and David Gilmour. Whether it's a favorite coffee shop memory or the thrill of a rock concert, join us for a celebration of the vibrant stories that make life more colorful. Cheers to Episode 30, and here's to many more adventures together!
College Football and Bourbon Chats
Speaker 1Two Drinks In Again was not taped before a live studio audience.
Speaker 2Can this damn election get here already oh?
Speaker 1My.
Speaker 2God, ha ha ha, dude Morning. This forecast goes blue skies.
Speaker 1Hey folks, it's Jeff, it's me, it's me.
Speaker 2David T. Hey, how was your week? It's going pretty good. Good, I can't complain. Good, this Knob Creek's tasting pretty good.
Speaker 1It's very, very good, so we're drinking Knob Creek bourbon, that's right.
Speaker 2Bourbon, it's bourbon. Oh yeah, it's definitely bourbon.
Speaker 1Right before Dave came, I had finished off what was left of the Red Breast Irish Whiskey, which is really fucking good and it goes. Let me recommend it goes very well with Kraft, macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 2That's some solid college man right there.
Speaker 1Seriously, yeah, I love that Like hello.
Speaker 2I'm 22, all over again college right, right, seriously, yeah, like hello, hello I'm 22, all over again.
Speaker 1I'm surprised you're even wearing a shirt. I know, right, seriously, I was about to you know, I was about to have you come over and I was gonna have a big d painted on my chest.
Speaker 2Let's go, let's go devils. Oh yeah, congrats, they beat. How about that?
Speaker 1that blew my mind was a game to watch. So for our listeners who aren't aware, it's the big rivalry matchup and it was homecoming.
Speaker 2They made that game homecoming. Yes, right, seriously, what in the world? You would think it would have been last week, the previous week, when we played MTSU Something.
Speaker 1No, but it was homecoming and it was the first conference game as well, jeez. And so here we are at halftime and Duke's down 20 to nothing, and I'm just like well, this isn't good.
Speaker 2Yeah, I didn't even think about even flipping it over until I saw the final ticker. And then the defense showed up in the second half Manny Diaz baby.
Speaker 1Which led the offense to have some production.
Speaker 2He's a god now.
Speaker 1He is a god now and I hadn't realized it had been five years since the Victory Bell had been in Durham. So it's been down in Chapel Hill for the last five years.
Speaker 2What's the story about the bell? I don't really know who gives a shit.
Speaker 1It's just the rivalry between Duke and UNC is what it is.
Speaker 2You've got to love those college footballs, but now we're 5-0. Yeah.
Speaker 1And so there you go, and you guys are 5-0.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, buddy, UT football. I'm going to tell you I was impressed with that Oklahoma game.
Speaker 1Yes, sir, I went in not expecting much. I thought okay, this is like they're going to stumble now.
Speaker 2No, you guys were pretty solid.
Speaker 1They're legit yeah they're a legit team, like I'm like, oh yeah, okay, I'm gonna have to show some respect here.
Speaker 2It's been a long time coming but it's been one of those things where, even last year and the year before, when they you know, when they beat bama man, if we could just get this defense just a little bit better.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know who knows what'll happen?
Speaker 2sure and now the defense is just a lot better.
Speaker 1Well, I tell you what it was funny in watching that game, because it was even up until the very end. You had the sportscasters predicting any scenario that Oklahoma could win the game. It's like okay if they score this touchdown and then make the two-point conversion and then do an onside kick and retrieve the ball and score and do another two-point conversion. I'm like that's a little, and and too many ifs.
Speaker 2Herbie was doing all he could to get people from changing the channel and going to bed. Man, do you remember, oh God, this? Was probably 10 years ago, maybe sooner than that, there was the Duke-Miami game, where, at the very end, miami did this final play where it was like the eight lateral passes that they did and like 15 blocks in the back that was never called Right and a knee that hit the ground that was never called. I was just like what, who was in on that team?
Speaker 1And then the ACC suspended those refs. But like you know, I mean anyway. I could editorialize on that. A little bit Funny thing. That night I was at Strack's house for a Halloween party and like I'm just we wasn't on anything. So I'm just following the scores through the app that I use and I'm like, okay, we're up with like 30 seconds, we're like 10 seconds left, something like that.
Speaker 1I'm like yeah, it's in the bag and everything like that. And then I look at my thing and I go what the fuck just happened here, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2Record scratch.
Speaker 1Yeah, so I love, so, yeah, it's like that.
Speaker 2The one thing that I am not used to, though, is all these damn night games.
Speaker 1Right. What is that all about?
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm getting too old for that shit man.
Speaker 1I know Duke has been good in that they have done them at 4 o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, sign me up for that.
Speaker 2Yeah, 330 games and that's what I'm kind of used to and, or yeah, 330 games, that's what I'm kind of used to and or when they were sucking, you know you play at noon, right you? Got your whole day left.
Speaker 1Now, when you tailgate for a noon game, do you like start drinking at 6 am?
Speaker 2Yes, I call it the eggs and kegs. Good yeah, well played. Yes yeah.
Speaker 1It's been a long time since I've done a UT, tailgate it. I'm going to the Florida game.
Speaker 2man, I can't wait, yeah, next week it's going to be another night game. Right yeah, another night game. Jesus yeah, I'm not used to the whole pacing thing. I'll be that random guy that's just slumped over in the corner.
Speaker 1So what's the call? I don't follow a lot of SEC football. How is Arkansas?
Speaker 2Are you guys supposed to pace them? They? I follow a lot of SEC football. How is Arkansas? Are you guys supposed to pace them? They're good enough to beat you if you don't show up kind of thing yeah. But if they do show up and I'm judging by Hypo and how he coaches, I see that being the case. Yeah, but I think they're like two and three or some shit.
Speaker 1Okay yeah, but they're still good. Duke plays Georgia Tech tomorrow at 8 pm. Okay yeah.
Speaker 2But they're still good. Duke plays Georgia Tech tomorrow at 8 pm. Oh well, there you go, there you go, so my daughter and I can watch the game together. I'm going over buddy. He's a Michigan fan, his game's at 7.32, so we're all just kind of in it together. It's just like my gosh man. What happened? Football used to start at noon and be done by, you know 4 o'clock.
Speaker 1Now all the games start at 6 and 7 o'clock. Yeah, I remember the deterrent to me going to like any UT football games were because on Saturdays I had all three of my kids in soccer and they all had soccer games.
Speaker 2They strewn throughout the Saturday in the fall. You know it's like okay so I'm going to have to surrender these tickets. I hear you. No, those days are long gone right now Pretty crazy. And I guarantee the Bama game will be night game. Sure, following week, they've already said the Kentucky game is a night game.
Speaker 1Well, tonight also is a countdown to craziness for basketball. Is Midnight.
Speaker 2Madness.
Speaker 1Yes, it is yes Wow.
Speaker 2I have it on. Well, that snuck up on me. I'll tell you what?
Speaker 1Let me tell you the thing that I love about technology.
Speaker 2I can't believe it's October, Like what happened in.
Speaker 1September, like the minute the Duke basketball schedule dropped. Bam, my RSS feed had just updated my entire calendar that every game that's cool. I used to have to do it manually and now it's just automatic.
Speaker 2I'm just like.
Speaker 1I love that so much. Yeah, you can get lost in a basketball schedule. Countdown to Craziness is Duke Men's Basketball. Countdown to Craziness on the ACC Network.
Speaker 2They're going to be really good this year. They're going to be really good this year. Aren't you glad you're not a Florida State football fan?
Speaker 1I am so glad I'm not a Florida State football fan. Oh my goodness, dude.
Speaker 2Speaking of which, what about clemson? Clemson schedules the football game. They don't cancel that shit, but the weather was so bad they had to cancel class there's a school with its priorities intact.
Speaker 1What are we doing? Fuck, fuck, fuck. Education Go Tigers.
Speaker 2But be sure to show up for the football game. I swear it's wild man.
Speaker 1So yeah, let's talk about the hurricane.
Speaker 2Oh geez, you know my heart goes out to anyone and everyone that's had.
Speaker 1We extend our condolences for the loss of life and the loss of property and all of the inconveniences that apparently are not going to be resolved anytime soon, no way. They're talking. What is it Late?
Speaker 22025 is the last thing I saw.
Speaker 1Yeah, I saw September 2025, and I don't know if that's I-40 or I-26.
Speaker 2It's probably both.
Speaker 1I just don't see no one of them is March, they're saying, and the other one is September. Well then, if it's later, later I would definitely say it was I-40.
Speaker 2I just because there's no winning with that picture. Pictures that I saw of I-40, right like who was the sumbitch that rolled up on that.
Speaker 1Yeah right, seriously, I mean, I mean give him a Pulitzer, you know, for the photography on that, or you know hopefully somebody just rolled up on it and no one got washed away.
Speaker 2I mean it is mind-boggling, yeah, some of the footage in some of those towns that I mean they're gone no, I mean, I read that like montreat and um, is it?
Speaker 1how do you say it's swan swanoa? It's just east of ashville. Yeah, I mean, there's so many of those little small appalachian towns, they're done, gone, gone. Yeah, I mean, it's just like that video I just showed you just like nothing you could do?
Speaker 2yeah, I mean craziness. It blows my mind. Yeah, uh, feel bad. Uh, I've got friends over in ashville, co-workers there, I mean, they're going through it and I mean no, to see the picture of biltmore village underwater wild, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, and how far above sea level are those guys Right?
Speaker 1exactly, and they just got destroyed Exactly.
Speaker 2That's just crazy. I don't. I'm a loss for words for all of it.
Speaker 1I am too Like I didn't realize it was that bad, like it's. You just get so numb to the hurricane season.
Speaker 2You know it's okay it. So it's okay. It's going to pound the shit out of Florida. Yeah, maybe some parts of South Carolina. It's like Florida's used to it, right, you know DeSantis is going to thump the podium and then be done with it, exactly.
Speaker 1Exactly so, but this thing just drove right up through the panhandle and just beat the shit.
Speaker 2Have you ever seen a hurricane? Just go straight.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2That was wild. Yeah, it just went straight and then stopped. Yeah, like this is crazy. Yeah, helene was a bit of a bitch. Oh, massive, I mean massive.
Hurricane Impact and Aftermath
Speaker 1Yeah, we'll be talking about that one forever we will be talking for that for a while. It it's interesting because I I remember I had been to new orleans about 11 months before katrina hit yeah and hit, and then it was another, oh, I guess nine years after Katrina hit that. I went back and it was. It was Dang, that's bourbon smooth, I know. Right, for anyone who hears any kind of background noise, that is my pug barking his head off at somebody in the driveway.
Speaker 2The protector.
Speaker 1Swear to God drives me crazy some days. You know how the little fucker pisses all over the deck outside on the back patio.
Speaker 2No he does.
Speaker 1He's just an asshole. Come on, I love him, but he's just such an asshole.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I hear with the breed they're tough to potty train.
Speaker 2Really yeah, wow.
Speaker 1So they're just things I have on a list for when Oscar crosses the Rainbow Bridge, like new flooring, new furniture.
Speaker 2Man, I'm that way. My stinking little shithead cat has just totally ruined my couch, but I'm not going to buy a new one, just for him to exactly dig into the next one. Yeah, yeah so when, when he passes, that's gonna be my first purchase, isn't a shame? That's what we, that's where we're at. Yeah, like looking at.
Speaker 1I love you, buddy, but damn it yeah, sorry, back to the hurricane so you know, it's just a fucking mess, and we're talking dave and I were talking about this earlier that uh, the last that I can remember that came that far inland to North Carolina was Hugo back in 89., right, and that was a crazy time. I'm like wait a minute. A hurricane hit Charlotte. That's a little far east, right, you know, but then when you look at the geography of the East, Coast and Hugo like took a right turn too.
Speaker 2Yeah, because.
Speaker 1It beat the shit out of Myrtle Beach too. Yeah, yeah, because it beat the shit out of myrtle beach? Yeah, because a fraternity brother and I, a fraternity brother of mine was dating his one of our little sisters and he was dating her at the time and I know none of this ages well in today's culture, um, but uh, we had gone down to her house for fall break and they lived in myrtle beach and, like their swimming pool was completely filled in with sand, just oh wow, like they had a beachfront home, yeah.
Speaker 1And the whole Myrtle Beach was completely under martial law.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's wild and it was a crazy time my brother was living in Charlotte at that time and it was one of those things where we're like, oh, okay, he's fine, and we went to bed and then we get a phone call the next morning like, well, we're okay, well, we're okay, well, yeah, of course you are you dumbass.
Speaker 1What's that supposed to mean?
Speaker 2Yeah, he's like turn on the news you dumb shits Like oh my gosh, because Charlotte got, I mean they got hit.
Speaker 1They got pummeled. Pretty bad yeah.
Speaker 2And again, a city that's just not ready for it, not prepared for it, not built for it, and there you go.
Speaker 1Well, and that's been the everyone who's posted pictures and describing the situations in each of their towns and, yeah, villages, literally in the case of appalachia, but, um, you know, has said we just weren't prepared no, I mean, who is you, don't think?
Speaker 2you're in the mountains, you think like, absolutely you know and how and like looking at it too is like how would you prepare for it right? You know other than flee yeah and are you gonna put your house on stilts like?
Speaker 1they do at the beach. You're not going to do that.
Speaker 2I mean it's just, it's gut-wrenching, it's heartbreaking. I mean all the it's just awful. I hate it for anyone and everyone that's having to do anything that has it. Yeah, I mean even my parents, just I mean they had lost power for almost a week, really. But I mean that's nothing compared to you know a couple of trees down in the yard and no power compared to losing damn everything is wild.
Speaker 1Well, and I mean, what's the status with the dam over in Greenville? Is that kind of stabilized now? I think I would think so.
Speaker 2But the thing that concerns me and I haven't looked at it in a minute is that other one that was brewing Like. If it comes through that one that's, you know, out in the ocean right now I don't know if there's another hurricane.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, that's right, yeah, yeah. So I mean whatever that little bastard decides to do if it got it's the most wonderful time of the year.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's wild man. Yeah, I just don't know. I it's wild man. Yeah, I just don't know, I don't know. It's going to be a long time, but as long even though there's bad in the world, you do get to see, you get a little bit more.
Speaker 2Yes, even though you will see the bad side of humanity and we're gonna see it a lot over the next month oh shit like I can't even yeah it's getting worse and worse, man, especially with the damn the dock workers going on strike now too. Yeah, but then that was resolved.
Speaker 1They did, yeah, they got that resolved. They put forth a deal, they get a 62%.
Speaker 2I didn't even see that.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, it happened overnight.
Speaker 2I would figure that'd be everywhere.
Speaker 1No, they struck a deal. They get a 62% pay increase over the next six years. Oh, 62% pay increase over the next six years Cool 62%. Yeah, that's a pretty damn good deal that was not a bad deal they wanted, I think 77 or something like that so it went that quiet. It went that quiet.
Speaker 2Because everyone's the news made it Armageddon.
Speaker 1Everyone was ready to make a big deal out of this, yeah.
Speaker 2Can you imagine that being one of those sons of bitches?
Speaker 1that hoarded at Costco and now you're sitting on 2,000 rolls of toilet paper. What do you mean? They cut a deal. Can we agree? Do you ever shop at Costco here?
Speaker 2I don't, but I have.
Speaker 1I only go in if I have to.
Speaker 2Those places you save so much money, you're broke Exactly Right. And like you save so much money, you're broke Exactly Right.
Speaker 1And like you know, you look, oh, they got some decent things there. But like when I buy a lawnmower from Sam's club, no, not not a prayer you know the quality of that is for shit, but like I'll buy some. You know like the five pack of deodorant and you know things like that. There you go, razors or something like that um, I'll also buy toilet paper there and and everything but like when I mean, I just went there the other day.
Speaker 1I forget why I went, but it was like there is never a good time or a good day to go to the costco here in knoxville no, it is, it is a zoo from sun up to sundown there has never been a time where I've gone by that place, to where it's like half the city's there. What I liked about Sam's is they had that business club membership where you could go in at 7 am and it was just for business club members from 7 until 10.
Speaker 2There you go. And so I have a membership through my business. You were peacocking walking around.
Speaker 1I would leave early in the morning from my house when I lived off Middlebrook Pike, I would just go right to Sam's Club, buy non-perishable stuff and then just bring it home at the end of the day from the work day.
Speaker 2I haven't been on Middlebrook Pike in forever. I used to just burn the hell out of that road.
Speaker 1Yeah, I occasionally on on my hardened valley days I'll like drive it a little bit just to, yeah you know, get a sense of what's going yeah, has it built much around it and on it uh, or? Does it just still look the same well, I mean, you know, it's where middlebrook becomes hardened valley yeah, well um, and that's where you see it all happening.
Speaker 1Um but um, no, what I'm really kind of marveling at is my end of the town, here at Kingston Pike, if you just go a little further west, you know, toward Watt Road and even beyond that like they're just developing the crap out of it. Yeah, I'm curious. I don't mind it so long as we get some good amenities, but when you put in the second Dollar General store, that's like a mile and a half down from the other Dollar.
Speaker 2General store. I'm just sitting here that's the Mary. That's like a mile and a half down from the other Dollar General store. I'm just sitting here going why that's the Maryville style of business.
Speaker 1Right, exactly.
Speaker 2You're going to have family dollar across the street from Dollar General? Yeah, exactly, well, you have to. It's like we got an advanced auto part.
Speaker 1So you know an auto zone's going in some place. Oh yeah, it's happening, you know, and like apparently there's this big.
Speaker 2And then there'll be a donut shop. There's this big Mormon temple going in what yeah like right next to the urgent care place.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's kind of random.
Speaker 2It is very random, yeah. Is there a need for that?
Speaker 1Evidently, huh, clearly there is.
Speaker 2Bunch of Mormons running around. Bunch of Mormons running around here. Wow, Decided to leave Utah come here.
Speaker 1You know we support the Mormon religion. Oh, absolutely Love the Mormons.
Speaker 2But I mean, you know, I mean okay, I just yeah, don't feel like there's a big congregation of Mormons in Knoxville, but here we go, they're here, they're here, they're here, they're here.
Speaker 1So yeah, there's all this development going on out here, like I just I told virginia the other day. I said you, across from where casey's is on watt road, you go across watt road on kingston pike, and I said that whole corner. I said you notice how they've just leveled all that?
Speaker 2and they leveled all the shit um right at old stage road in kingston pike like oh wow you know, I mean um, I mean, that's a cool little area Because you have right access to the interstate right there too.
Speaker 1Well, we're going to need it because all that stuff they're doing down with the new market square in Farragut that's going to be a dystopian hellscape. The traffic is going to kill it when is? That that is right where the Kroger is. Oh, okay, it's like just a little east of 35 North. Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2I got you. Yeah, it's where the old Kroger used to be. Yeah.
Speaker 1And they finally just leveled everything. There's apartments in the back, Of course. There's apartments everywhere.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, and it's like topside right now. Yeah, all they just, I mean, threw them bastards up.
Speaker 1Yep, Yep, I'm amazed at how Well I was just over at it working out an NFC signature this morning, and like behind that, like on the corner of Gallagher. View and Walker Springs, where that all converges together, like there's apartments going.
Speaker 2There's apartments going everywhere, yeah Do they have orthodontic age children. That's the question. I'm sure they will, man they're going to have to With all of these people moving in, they're going to have to. They'll get you through. I hope so.
Speaker 1Seven years you got this. That's all.
Speaker 2I need is seven years. You got this.
Speaker 1So come on. You know you want to talk about this dude no I mean no, I just no, I had a good week this week, well, good I mean, with this transition there's been very peak and valley moments and what have you and and um, but this was a good week and so you know you, just you hold on to those moments oh yeah when you own your own business and you're just like, okay. So we just got to remember what this feels like and keep moving forward from there.
Speaker 1And for me the big moment is that in two months I'll have that building down in Maryville paid off, and that will be a huge moment for me. That's a really nice building too, thank you, yeah, it's, you know I mean credit. Let me just give a quick shout out to everyone that played a role in this back in 2004.
Speaker 1Karen Gay Johnson of Architects International weaved her way through my graph paper Dungeons and Dragons style design of the office and my ramblings and put together the design of the building, and to Tim Lucas, who was the interior designer, who we sorted through a lot of color motifs and everything, and all of that is still there.
Speaker 2I just think it's a great spot.
Speaker 1Except for the carpeting. Yeah, but we changed that to commercial vinyl flooring Smart move yeah. And you know. So it's been great and it'll be paid off in December.
Speaker 2Our hospital has way too much carpet in it Really. Oh my gosh, it's off in december.
Speaker 1it has way too much carpet in it really. Oh my gosh, it's like what, what? Yeah, I'm about ready to tear out the carpet where the schedulers all sit. Yeah, just because that's all wrinkled up.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's nasty fast yeah it's been. It'll be 20 years next march that we've been in that building oh wow, yeah, congrats yeah thank you, it'll be, a good moment I just, I just love that spot just due to the fact of it keeps it keeps you out of the shitty, really traffic-y part of Maryville.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2That's like the area where you start to breathe a little bit, exactly.
Speaker 1No, it's funny you say that because I was just thinking this on Wednesday. Maryville has a very odd layout to it and it's kind of triangular in a way, it is big time. You know where you have Broadway, lamar Alexander and then Washington. Yep, you know, and it's. And what really I think disturbs the flow of, like you, having a more grid-like setup is where the courthouse is positioned.
Speaker 1And I've always felt that that, like like just some, the city planning was not, I think, between where the courthouse and the college are Speaking of that area, did you see where Diamond Jack's closed? I did not.
Speaker 2Yeah, out of nowhere. They just threw up on their Instagram page like thanks, peeps, we'll catch you. And the next thing they showed was them selling all their quirky little uh stuff that was inside I had no idea me. Neither I thought they were doing great, but yeah, I thought they were too. Yeah, I mean, or they just decided, you know, they made it.
Speaker 1We're not going to fight the holiday inn going across the street from us, maybe not. That sucker is going up, oh yeah, they're.
Speaker 2Yeah, they're not messing around, they're not fucking around. I don't think I've ever seen anything get built so quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1And I have to because I know some of the people who are on the Maryville Downtown Development Association, yeah, and I'm kind of like okay, did somebody just do this? And say fuck you to them, because I don't think they really have any executive authority in anything. It's kind of like they're more an advisory group, but something happened yeah because I just again.
Speaker 2I mean, we talked about this last time. That's just a fucking weird ass place for a hotel man, and then the the sky rise the retirement sky rise, that's gonna be turned someplace else.
Speaker 1I guess that's a weird place, like there'll be times I that's going to be turned someplace else. I guess that's a weird place, Like there'll be times I'd park in what used to be the parking lot there. And like then you see all the people in the retirement home just kind of sitting outside.
Speaker 2It's almost like Smoker's Corner or something like that. Yes, it is. It's like man leave your oxygen tank in the room and go.
Speaker 1Hopefully it's a weird little vibe, and then you've got altered state headquarters right behind it, Exactly right behind them.
Speaker 2What used to be Ruby Tuesday, marvel, marvel.
Speaker 1That's all you can say about it. I used to say for a long time and actually I've said it on the podcast quite a few times in our earlier episodes that just Marvel can't have nice things. That's right, they have found a way to have some nice things.
Speaker 2I love the city. I really do.
Speaker 1No, I do I like every time they get something Like I love Bella. Yeah, it's good. You know, I think Blue Tick Tavern is wonderful. I thought Diamond Jack's was nice. I didn't go there very often, but I've been there either.
Speaker 2Well, that's you know what. So let's, let's backtrack on that. So before it was diamond jacks, it was tomato head. Yeah, that one shocked me of. When tomato head moved out of there, I I meant okay, maybe that's just a terrible spot for a business, because tomato head, I mean hell, it still thrives in markets oh yeah so it's not, and over in bearded tooarden too yeah, so I didn't get that one.
Speaker 1I think, I don't know.
Speaker 2My only connection, other than being a consumer, is that the kids of the owners were in class with my kids at school For the longest time there was talk that that was going to become a really nice steakhouse Boy. That'd be something.
Speaker 1I think it'd be great Just to have another nice steak. I mean not that Walnut Kitchen isn't nice. We wholly endorse Walnut Kitchen. Oh, absolutely Big fan of Walnut. Love Walnut Kitchen. Love Foothills too. Yeah, I do too. I haven't been there in a million years either.
Speaker 2Yeah, but I kind of keep Foothills really special occasion type place. I don't know. To me it's just not a hey, it's Tuesday night.
Speaker 1Hey, it's Tuesday, let's go. Let's go to the state, let's go to the Hills Mill, go Walls, you know.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1Let's spend $500 for brunch, yeah.
Speaker 2I remember when it's jam packed all the time.
Speaker 1Was it? It was named something else, though before it was foothills milling company, that that I wouldn't know. I I, because I remember going to lunches there with dentists for a while. Yeah, when I first got here 23 years ago it was that was the big thing. Um, yeah, so that you know a lot of interesting places they used. But there used to be like, do you remember miss olivia's table? Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's gone now. Yeah, um, there's, yeah.
Speaker 2But what's been, what's been fun for me is that, even though some of these things are closing, more and more is opening. Yes, you know, it's not just like. The town is obviously thriving, yeah, so that always makes me a little happy about it.
Speaker 1So if I had a magic wand, to the things that I would do to make nicer in the Maryville area. Okay, I would start East Broadway, go up to Eagleton and I would just wave a magic wand and get rid of some of those buildings.
Speaker 2Oh yeah.
Speaker 1Like that just needs a clean up. Oh yeah, and every time I see something nice going on, I'm like, okay, that's good, because this is a decent enough area. Have, this is a decent enough area. Have you seen what they're doing with that baseball park? No, well, I saw that they were doing construction, but I don't know what they're doing.
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Speaker 2Buddy it looks like every field's about to be a damn minor league baseball field. Holy shit. Yeah, there's nothing but brick going up on this stuff. Wow, I mean I'm talking like wow, shit, I'm big time. I don't know how they got the funds for it or who was putting up on it, but they are doing it right. It still makes me sweat, you know, just cause I just can't imagine spending a whole day out there. But they're doing it right, man. Those kids are going to have a great facility to be around.
Speaker 1There was a great coffee place back 15 years ago 16 years ago, it's that little solo thing, I think it became a Jamaican jerk place for a while.
Speaker 2It's now another coffee place.
Speaker 1It used to be called Mountain Mud.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's something like Bear Necessities or something like that now the woman that owned it, my friend Heather.
Speaker 1she knew how to make my coffee. She's the one that got me turned on to vienna coffee and um, but she made it a certain way that I have been unable to replicate yeah and uh, and then it was her tlc man broke my heart when she sold it, because it was I mean on my marvel days.
Speaker 1I looked forward to that just yeah, that was your get my coffee, you know yeah and say hi to her, and and whatnot, and and uh and uh she, uh it was. It was a great little place, but you know there's that cuban place also oh it's great, yeah, I know it's awesome yeah, there's a lot of potential up there. Oh yeah, you know, and I think part of it's the stalled development there is because pelissippi place, just just north of it, just died, just yeah, it didn't happen.
Speaker 2Yeah, I know Just. They've got a great entryway.
Speaker 1Well, it's no they do. I mean, and I remember seeing plans where they actually talked about having the Pellissippi Extension go underground. That would Like have it be tunnels and that would be incredible.
Speaker 2Could you imagine how cool that would be? Yeah, if you're in that tunnel but then coming out yeah, right there, into the right there, lamar alexander?
Speaker 1yeah, or in the even further heritage, I think is where it's supposed to dump you, or something like that okay, yeah, but just boom.
Speaker 2Yeah, that'd be.
Speaker 1That's a pretty cool little entryway yeah, I I've always kind of held on to the notion that they would get the extension going, supposedly it's going to happen. They've exhausted every route, but I honestly think I'm going to retire and move away before it even gets started. I've given up that.
Speaker 2Well, if it's going to take them any type of time frame, whatever the hell they're doing on Alcoa Highway around.
Speaker 1University of Tennessee Hospital and John's Baptist Church and Severe Heights Baptist Church and John Severe Highway.
Speaker 2My God, my kids' kids won't see it.
Speaker 1No, you know, and then I keep reading about I'll do research on like I-95 in South Carolina is just hell Right and it's because in North Carolina and in Georgia it's three lanes each way and then it goes down to two State, birds and orange barrel, exactly. And so. I'm like I've noticed that they have torn down trees in the medians and everything like that over the years and I'm like, okay, so what's the plan here?
Speaker 2Yeah, what I?
Speaker 1read is it's going to be like 2030, before they even start. Before they even start, before they even start, before they even start, I'm like so I will be retired and I will have committed to some location that could possibly not be hilton head you know right and so where do I go with that?
Speaker 2yeah, I don't know it. You know the world's getting bigger and bigger but it is, but the roads aren't you know and there's too many fucking cars. Oh my gosh man, that's what took me forever to get here For one. There's too many cars, and then half the people behind those cars don't know what the hell they're doing anyway. I'm not a gun owner, I don't want to ever own a gun but man a tranquilizer gun sometimes would be awesome.
Speaker 1There's a reason why I don't carry a gun in my car.
Speaker 2I don't think I'm a ragey person, not person I am.
Speaker 1Well, but I am.
Speaker 2When I get behind the wheel of a car, somebody's acting really stupid. It all started in Philadelphia when I was in dental school. Oh I bet, oh Lord, there you'd have to be. It all started in Philadelphia when I was in dental school in Philadelphia oh I bet, oh Lord.
Speaker 1And there, there you'd have to be, but the thing I joke about is that the drivers here wouldn't last a minute in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2Just drive the.
Speaker 1Schuylkill Expressway. You're dead.
Speaker 2Yeah. They couldn't manage it the inability for people to not be able to merge in this town and Oak Ridge and in Maryville, everywhere.
Speaker 1Oh no, it's funny because I actually saw a meme about this this morning on Facebook that someone talked about the zipper merge and how here, like you, try to do a proper zipper merge you go the entire.
Speaker 1Now I have problems with, like when I am sitting back and like leaving your space to come on, come on over now. Yeah, like really you're going to milk every last foot of that merge lane, right, but there are people that do that, yeah, and I'm just so, I'm kind of in between the get in there really early or wait until the very last minute. But no, east Tennessee's got a weird, really fuck you attitude about all that.
Speaker 2The person in the lane should slow up just a little bit. Person merging should be going a little bit faster. And lo and behold, if you do that, everything works out swimmingly.
Speaker 1It does Folks? Dave just said swimmingly. That was at 32 minutes in.
Speaker 2He said swimmingly, yes, yes, you know, I got another team that's doing well. I stayed up late last night watching the atlanta fucking falcons win another football oh my god, yeah does it.
Speaker 1They have a winning record.
Speaker 2There's some nfl football teams we just never talk about, and they're one of them the atlanta falcons is damn sure one of them, and they damn beat the buccaneers late into the night last night and it's them and I think my mind.
Speaker 1We never talk about the detroit lions? No, definitely not. Uh, but they're good.
Speaker 2It's weird, the lions and falcons are good. Oh my okay that was good, that was really good I like that bears still suck. I couldn't put them in there, no right yeah, but I yeah anyway, I know I'm going on a tangent, but that's okay it just I'm sitting there again. It's uh like I've been in the past with UT sports. It's like well, I can't have nice things and they're going to lose, they're going to lose. So every time I'm watching the foul I was like yeah, they're going to lose.
Speaker 2Yeah, they're going to fuck this up, right here, oh, they didn't fuck that up. Well, we still suck, we're still shitty, we're still shitty, yeah, but I mean they had to kick a field goal to get into overtime. So the whole time that was going on I was like he's going to fucking miss it. He's going to fucking miss it.
Speaker 1Oh shit, he made it.
Speaker 2And then he went into overtime and the NFL rules right. So if you get the ball and score a touchdown, game's over Four plays 70 yards touchdown.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And I'm listening to Herb Street going like, wow, the Falcons just won.
Speaker 1My ex-girlfriend was so in love with him. He would come on the screen and I would just see her toes curl.
Speaker 2Call me Herbie baby.
Speaker 1There's some. You just let your partner you give them that. Oh, absolutely, it's that gimme, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2So, yeah you, you have to let them have at least three or four, right exactly? Yeah, no, just here, just go you know that's funny stuff, you watching anything fun I am in the final episode of season three of Daredevil God. That last season is so good Okay.
Speaker 1Let's just start with how Daredevil just completely outshines all the other Defenders TV series.
Speaker 2Completely.
Speaker 1Like I can't even say I half watched luke, cage and iron fist and all that like nappy time right, exactly, it's like okay, I'm on the computer, okay, I'll glance up okay, I can generally follow this story.
Speaker 2It was in quotes that you watched it.
Speaker 1Yeah, right, yes, exactly, or then I read the synopsis of it on wikipedia and now okay, I have a working working knowledge but no, daredevil, I've been kind of focused on.
Speaker 2How cool did they make Bullseye? Oh yeah.
Speaker 1No, totally Well, also the whole evolution of that villain was incredible. And, but like what'd they do with Wilson Fisk?
Speaker 2Yes, you know.
Speaker 1I mean, vincent D'Onofrio is a badass and he's made for that role. He is totally made for that role. He is totally made for that role, yep. And so I'm glad I'm watching this now because I may have to watch Hawkeye again, because they bring him back in Hawkeye.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And so for context, you know that I can see where that's all coming from, but like they're apparently bringing the whole band back together, for Daredevil Born Again, yep. And it's in post-production you know they've got Karen Page and they've got Foggy and they've got you know, all of them and they got Wilson.
Speaker 2And so it's going to be exciting. Yeah, even the dude that plays Punisher. What's his name? Great actor John Barenthal. Yeah, he's back too. I'm all in.
Speaker 1I'm looking forward to Punisher, season 2. Yep, and then Defenders finishes up with Season 3 of Jessica Jones, and I'm going to. It's going to be everything for me not to put an ice pick in my ear as I watch that it's going to be bad Because it's just it's just, you know, I mean because Jessica Ritter, jessica Ritter, no.
Speaker 2Yeah, is that her name, that's right. Jessica Ritter no, no, something Ritter. Jessica jones, jessica, anyway, fuck it. Uh, jessica winner was someone who, I went to high school, died of cervical cancer, but uh, yeah, right, so um, I don't know why I'm laughing. It's the tangential, the tangential conversations that we have very stream of consciousness here, novcrete, it's like a sherwood anderson novel, so it's winesburg, ohio.
Speaker 1Um anyway, um no, it's like I keep going back to you were so great in baking, breaking bad, and you so suck in this. Yeah, like it, just she's got one facial expression I've said this on like at least two other episodes. Oh yeah, she's got one friggin. It's like this, like shocked, annoyed thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's like she's the Karen in the HOA Right.
Speaker 1Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2Yes, it's just appalled that you have your grass to climb.
Speaker 1So all of this to get caught up. So I finally have a reason to watch Echo, because I understand. It kind of helps to have seen the Defenders series. To bring. Echo in and then, and then it'll be Agatha all along.
Speaker 2I'm in it. How is it? It's way better than I thought it was gonna be it was one of those things where I was just like I didn't ask for this, don't really care for it.
Speaker 1Nobody asked for it, yeah but they delivered, they delivered. Marvel delivered Well done.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I think when they did this whole Marvel television thing, I think that's helped me because I'm not sitting there hanging on every word and trying to find an Easter egg. It's like well how is this going to tie into this and all this bullshit? I'm just enjoying a television show now and I think that's helped me quite a bit.
Speaker 1I think I need to go back and watch moon night. With that in mind, I I because I totally agree. I don't see what they're going to do with it on the grand scheme nothing, but it was an interesting. It was a great. Ethan hawke was awesome in that. You know, oscar isaacs was pretty damn good at that he was brilliant, um, and it was.
Speaker 2But yeah, I kept waiting on these, I kept waiting and waiting.
Speaker 1Like is there going to be somebody else from the MCU showing up, right? Is Hulk going to show up, correct, yeah. Where does this all tie in? Yeah.
Speaker 2I'm completely there with you. So, yeah, yeah, don't worry about that. Okay, if you're not worried, my hand gesticulates and I accidentally hit the keyboard. At least I didn't unplug my mic like I did last time.
Speaker 1We're still recording so we're good here.
Speaker 2I'm watching a. It's not Marvel, but it just came across on Netflix. Just kind of put it on, for fuck's sake. I think it's called Nobody W wants this, but it has christine bell and uh, guy was in one of like dawson creek or something like that. He was just joshua jackson.
Speaker 1No, he wasn't in dawson's creek but one of those type of shows, right, and he's a rabbi, teenagers, yeah, yeah he's a rabbi and you know they she's doing a.
Speaker 2she does this podcast and it's all about like sex and dildos and stuff like that and they meet. So they're only like 27-minute little episodes, but it's been nice. Character development it's really funny, it's nice. It's just one of those things I can sit and enjoy with CJ.
Speaker 1Kristen Bell's a great actress. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2She's pretty solid and it's written perfectly for her because she's able to be slightly funny, just like she was in Saving no Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, yeah. That's almost like who she is in the show. But nice bitchy. Do you remember the TV series Heroes? Yeah, I mean, she was in that for a hot season, was she really yeah?
Speaker 2Rose yeah, I mean, she was in that for a hot season, was she really? Yeah, she was yeah. I remember Hayden Penetary, but I don't remember.
Speaker 1No, she was, I think season two. Wow, yeah, Is that like her start? One of her? Well, I think she was. Veronica Mars is where she got her start.
Speaker 2Oh, okay.
Speaker 1And then she, like it was at the same time she's done, forgetting Sarah Marshall and things like that. So, voice and frozen. That was before frozen.
Speaker 2Oh yeah. Okay, this was all before frozen, and but she's easy on the eyes, she's very easy on the eyes.
Speaker 1I did give her that there's, but like I'll tell you what heroes I hate even thinking about it because all the potential in the world it had.
Speaker 2Yes, Heroes.
Speaker 1I hate even thinking about it Because it had all the potential In the world it had. Yes, it just Like Talk about A first season when you just Won Grand Slam After the other.
Speaker 2Like I felt the same way On another NBC show, and now I'm forgetting the name, but it was the one when, like All the power went out oh, revolution.
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Speaker 1Yes, yeah, we talked about this work is. Giancarlo esposito is the badass. Yeah, yeah first season was again like you just said grand slam after grand slam but yeah, no, I want that first season. I was totally into it and everything. And then like I was like okay, this is just not. Yeah, grip somewhere. I don't know what it is about the streaming services and cable television that they can do serialized television shows so well and like the major networks nbc, abc, fox they just can't you know why I, I, I kind of attribute to.
Speaker 2It's almost where they put out so much yeah to see what sticks, yeah, and when something does stick, the writers go what do you mean? That was successful, like. What the fuck are we gonna do now? There's like there was never a plan for a season two, sure, and then all of a sudden they're just scrambling and it turns into dog shit.
Speaker 1No, because you know, when you go back to heroes and you think about how season one ended, okay, so there they are in the plaza and it's it the brothers, and it's Adrian Pazdar, the older politician brother, and he says to his brother our job was to save the cheerleader, to save the world, yep. And then he takes the nuclear guy and flies up in the sky and you see this big explosion and that's it, yep. And I'm like ooh, amazing, big explosion.
Speaker 2And that's it, yep, you know and I'm like amazing, you know. I mean, that was a who shot jr cliffhanger for a season, if there ever was one, and so I mean they built up to it because the whole thing was that save the cheerleader, save the world. You know tagline and there were really compelling characters like you know was in it.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know, I mean well you had everybody show up in it because, like fucking sulu was in it I and, and it was so cool because there were even little easter eggs where they, they shouted out to the nerdiness and you. It was like blink, like there was one moment where george takei, who played, who was the dorky asian guy yes, that guy right guy, yeah, yeah um, who, um, you know, he goes to see him.
Speaker 1He gets out of the car and you see a shot of the license plate and it says ncc 17 oh, no way, and I'm like thank you, and I'm like losing my shit.
Speaker 2And of course, I'm still married to my first wife and she's like what, I don't get it.
Speaker 1I'm like that's a freaking enterprise Enterprise's. It's their ship code, it's their whole name.
Speaker 2An.
Speaker 1NCC-1701. Anyone knows that?
Speaker 2Yes, right.
Speaker 1So they did little things, or they had him say Great Scott, which any Back to the Future fan knows, and I just loved how they did those little shout-outs yes For people like you and me, geek out.
Speaker 2We could geek out to that oh, yeah, you know, I love when they do stuff like that.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know and it's been funny because, like in a way, stranger things has done that a little bit too, like, particularly with the dungeons and dragons aspect of everything. It's like well, they're gonna fight the demogorgon. I'm like, okay, first of all, it's not the demogorgon. Okay, it, it's just Demogorgon. He is the Prince of the Abyss, okay.
Speaker 2Get it straight, get it straight, guys, okay.
Speaker 1I'm a D&D rules first edition rules guy Speaking of Dungeons Dragons.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I listened to this podcast series. My friend Kelvin, who lives out in Los Angeles, texted me and said hey, I was driving back from San Diego and the whole time I listened to this podcast. This is the history of Dungeons, dragons and TSR.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh and you want to talk about some like a fucked up business, like it was just people getting screwed over left and right. Wow, and Gary Gygax, who was the founder, the you know the founder of dnd. He just like screwed everybody over and the problem was, is that he got so?
Speaker 2he was the mark zuckerberg. Yeah, pretty much so, pretty much so you know uh left his first wife and everything when did that damn thing come out? It started two or something no, it's before that wow I started playing it in 81.
Speaker 1Okay, I was in sixth grade is when I discovered dungeons and dragons, and so it was just before that they had a very low level, like books on how to play the game yeah there was one called blackmore, one called eldrick wizardry and and it wasn't to the great scape of like the monster manual or the dungeon master's guide. So I came in just as those books were taking off right and and other adventures like the tomb of horrors and the steadying of the hill giant king and and all of those which were just, I mean, but it was a great time to be alive.
Speaker 1But this business, like you thought these guys were, like all billionaires, like they were hanging on by a thread for the entire history of the business.
Speaker 2Wow yeah.
Speaker 1And then they finally sold to Wizards of the Coast, and that's who manages the Dungeons Dragons brand now.
Speaker 2Jeez, I hope they got a percentage of that. He moved out to Los.
Speaker 1Angeles and he wanted to all do movies. He wanted to turn Dungeons Dragons into movies and cartoons and shit like that.
Speaker 2There's only been like one good one, and it was this last one with Chris Pine, with Chris Pine.
Speaker 1Yeah, I need to watch that.
Speaker 2Now, I don't know the lore like you do. You may watch it and be like well, this is complete garbage.
Speaker 1They should have just named it. If it's fifth edition rules, I'll be lost, so I won't even have any idea how that works.
Speaker 2Well, like character names, all that stuff.
Speaker 1I have no idea.
Speaker 2But Hugh Grant and Chris Pine in this movie just unbelievable.
Speaker 1Well, and going back to Stranger Things, like they talk about, I guess, in the last season they talk about Vecna. Yep, doodoo daddy. Uh, he's the, he's an arch lich who, um is an undead overlord and a little more powerful than vampires and whatnot.
Speaker 2And well, let me ask you this who's who's the head honcho of what of dungeons? And like who's the who's the biggest, baddest dude character?
Speaker 1yeah, there are a few. It depends on what adventures you're playing.
Speaker 2So do you think stranger things will introduce one of these, I don't know or they're just gonna leave it at beckner, I don't know. I'm curious how that's going to wrap up Vecna.
Speaker 1I don't know how that's going to wrap up.
Speaker 2I think they're going to leave it at Vecna, because Vecna was pretty badass.
Speaker 1But there are other guys like. There's a Demi Lich named Ace Warak, who is prominent in the Adventure Tomb of Horrors, which is just this bring your high-level characters to this tomb and we will kill you.
Speaker 2I mean, that's just what it's a Dungeon Master's bloodbath is all it is.
Speaker 1And then they made it return to the Tomb of Horrors, which I like that better, because they just took it to this whole new level and it's like, oh my God, so he's one and another is a god who was so evil that all the other gods. It's kind of like this election season.
Speaker 2All the Republicans who are saying he's not fit for office. Yeah, all the bad gods teamed up with the good gods to put this guy in a prison.
Speaker 1So his name's Thurisdan. And so there was this big adventure that we were all into. It was called the Temple of Elemental Evil and it was completely different context that when they came out 20 years later with the return to the Temple of Elemental Evil, like it totally went in this new direction and it made the adventure so much better.
Speaker 2All right.
Speaker 1And I'm just like.
Speaker 2I have to take your word for it. We're still playing now.
Speaker 1Yeah, which is funny because I was for the first time in a million years I went to the Westtown Mall and I went into that gaming store. I just wanted to see what they had for sale, because I've been listening to this podcast about. Dungeons Dragons. I was like let's see what all they got and shit like that.
Speaker 2And there's that back room where all the gamers are and I'm like and I'm just wanting to go, I I just kind of wanted to say, hey guys, I'm an elder, you will get laid, there's a chance. It is a little. It has a different aroma back there. It certainly does.
Speaker 1But it was good fun. I enjoyed it I had a really great group of guys growing up that I played it with and everything and I stopped playing right after I graduated high school, which was probably for the best Smart move.
Speaker 2Yeah, because if I continued in college I would not have a life.
Speaker 1It's kind of why I don't play a lot of the involved video games like Fallout or Fortnite or anything like that, just because, like like all of a sudden it would consume you. I blink and it's like three o'clock in the morning. Oh shit, I gotta work, right, you know?
Speaker 2no I and uh I've definitely had to check, like there's the last game that I had that I bought for the xbox down here was diablo reaper of souls, ever, never, yet, no, no, it's not. No, it's not.
Speaker 1That is no good for you first time I got it like it. I think I want to say it was like Thanksgiving break or something like that, that I'd gotten it.
Speaker 2You're like what do you mean? It's Monday morning, Right? Wait where'd the weekend go?
Speaker 1I didn't even have a turkey leg, that's exactly how it is.
Speaker 2It's just, you know why do I smell, why am I smell? You know why am I sticky?
Speaker 1Oh Lord, exactly, I haven't even changed these underwear over the last five days. Right.
Speaker 2I got a colostomy bag hooked up to myself, you know capped up like a champion. And yet 12-mile views were drained.
Speaker 1You know, no I can't do those. So with my friend who is the big dude behind Fallout and Skyrim and Elder Scrolls.
Speaker 2That's awesome.
Speaker 1I can't have a conversation with him about that, because I don't play the games I have no idea. I mean, I have a vague work as to how Fallout is. I guess I could watch the tv show if I wanted to. It's pretty good, I've heard. Yeah, um, but it's got to get in line because jessica jones season three is just around the corner, um, but I just it's. I couldn't have a conversation with it because I just I don't I've never consumed me, like you know.
Speaker 1I mean, I know that his brother and and kelvin this guy that gave me the podcast to listen to he they would like play fucking grand theft auto all the time and everything. I'm just like, I just I can't, I mean really no, it'll, I'll never get anything that there was a stupid game on like I forget it was on myspace or facebook called mafia wars. Yeah, do you remember that? Yeah, like I mean, I'd be work and I'd be playing that any time I wasn't looking at patients.
Speaker 1And like I just, and then you know you end up spending money to keep things going and whatnot.
Speaker 2I'm not waiting 12 hours for this.
Speaker 1I'm not going to wait 12 hours, I'm going to spend 25 bucks now to make this happen.
Speaker 2Whoa, how's my credit card bill bill? Ten thousand dollars, you know, I mean shit like that. So, and and uh, your statement says seriously. At the bottom of the statement it says here's a phone number to call for help get a life pal.
Speaker 1Oh my lord so yeah, no, I can't. I can't do video games.
Speaker 2No, I get it.
Speaker 1I just don't have the time anymore.
Speaker 2No, it's tough.
Speaker 1No, I mean, I don't know how your week is when the day closes for you. Are you still owned by volleyball right now?
Speaker 2Not currently, but basketball season is about to kick up.
Speaker 1Yeah, so it's nonstop for you, oh yeah, so for me, like on Mondays, I have piano lesson at 5 30 all right and then tuesday I go work out at the gym, as I'm driving home from morristown. And then wednesday, every other week I've got therapy all right five o'clock and um, and so it's really not until thursday that I can knock on like I can say oh yeah, let's meet for drinks yeah, you know yeah on a third.
Speaker 1It's the end of the week at that point, for me too, so I can say oh yeah.
Speaker 2My problem with the video game aspect of things is my kids.
Speaker 1Still I mean, they're kids.
Speaker 2So I'll be cooking dinner or whatever, and my daughter is playing a game and all of a sudden I'm just sitting there looking at it. I was like man that looks really fun. I just want to get involved for a little bit.
Speaker 1I couldn't even tell you what my son plays for his video games. I have no clue whatsoever.
Speaker 2My son's eating up with the college football game right now but my daughter is playing Red Dead Redemption, which is the Western Grand Theft.
Speaker 1Auto. Oh, okay, I think I know of this, yes.
Speaker 2And you know it's involved and so, yeah, I start watching that. I was it's like man, that looks pretty fun. Yeah, but I'm like you. Next thing I know I'd be.
Speaker 1It'd be like 2 am and I'm fishing well, you know, I don't know if I said this in the last episode, but, um, you know, my son and his girlfriend have gone their separate ways oh, did I not say this I? I think they were still trying to work it no, I mean she, she got her doctorate, yeah, and she then moved down to london to get a job yeah and he's up there and I mean, you know, I know we look at the islands and it's like, oh, it can't be that far.
Speaker 2It's fucking eight hours, man, if you're driving in a car right maybe three four by train. Long distance relationships are tough, man, you know, I kind of saw this coming, you know he saw it coming and he told me he said, yeah, we broke up.
Speaker 1And he, man, you know, I kind of saw this coming, you know he saw it coming and he told me he said, yeah, we broke up and he goes. You know, we ended it on good terms and everything I said. Well, that's better for you know, I mean at least he did it right there's a jeffrey everting. That ended a relationship on good terms so you've been redeemed you've been redeemed you, you get to carry on the name, you know?
Speaker 1no, it's like I said for national suns day. I said, you know, when people say, are you the jeff eberting, I'm like, no, I'm just a jeff eberting, there's another one over, across the ocean. They like, tend to like the 2.0 I am so bad at those things like the national sunday and the national daughter day and the national taco day.
Speaker 2Like there are too many national days, man, I try to just get daughter and sunday, just right. And then, yeah, and, well then, I got dental assistance week and I've got this month. This past month was office manager's month and like I don't want to, I don't want anyone to think I slighted my office manager.
Speaker 1But like I just couldn't do a month, you know right.
Speaker 2But I mean, I see these things pop up and then I'm like oh, I should do that. But then I realized, like the posts that I'm looking at are like two weeks old, like well, this is kind of stupid.
Speaker 1No, I still have to do a post today on Instagram and Facebook for my oldest, older daughter's 25th birthday today.
Speaker 2That's awesome though.
Speaker 1And yeah, no, I mean so, yeah, yeah, going out to Winston-Salem tomorrow Hang out birthdays. I'm terrible at that shit. Yeah, if I, if I lock in, there's some people's birthdays for, like from elementary school and high school. I still have them edged into my brain.
Speaker 1yeah, you know, for some my dad's is the only one that I've just got locked in and it shares the same as yours not 11, yeah, but I mean, you know, something kind of happened that day to make it. I would say kind of yeah, yeah, yeah but, you know outside of that, for the only way you can remember my birthday is that's when the Justin Timberlake concert is this year.
Music Concerts and Rock Legends
Speaker 2That does not help me. I actually have to Talk about a bad mugshot buddy. Remember his a few weeks ago or a few months ago?
Speaker 1You know there was part of me that really hoped that this was going to end the tour, because I was kind of half interested in going to this. You going to end the tour because I was kind of half interested in going to this. You know I'm like, okay, he's going to put on a good show. I like a number of his. I like his first three albums, you know, and okay, we'll get you know he's almost yacht rock he can be like a lot of stuff on the mirror, on the.
Speaker 1Yeah, is it the mirror the song mirrors, but the albums that those are from. Eventually he will be considered yacht rock he could, yeah, no, he's very smooth. I mean, he's extraordinarily talented and I'm just like why would I not see he's coming to knoxville, right? That's now kind of becoming my new standard for like concerts is I'll see you if you come to knoxville. You know, and they've definitely brought it back so I've got next weekend.
Speaker 1I've got the elo concert boom, boom, boom. Yeah, I'm gonna weep, I'm gonna cry at that show yeah it's your last one, it's well, it's the last one, I think, for all of us. Yeah, he's the jeff lynn's calling it no more touring and, from what I've heard the reports on like he's not playing lead guitar like he used to it's, it's kind of like the um, the uh, shit, uh. Glenn camp final tour.
Speaker 2You know what?
Speaker 1I mean, and some have whispered that he may have Parkinson's- and I'm like, you know, like he's shuffling off the stage.
Speaker 2I'm like, okay, he's 76 years old, old people shuffle, you know, so you don't fall down. Yeah right, but still my mom shuffles. She's 83 years old. Okay, let her have this, just you know. Fuck you, she has no more arches.
Speaker 1She's got nothing, right, exactly you know um and she's that's good and um, so anyway. So, yeah, so I'm I'm excited to see that the the the lineup. When it started the tour there were two songs from the 80s that he had in there and he retired the. He took those out of the list and I get it because those are higher songs for him.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know, it's been, it's been holding steady on this 20 list, 20 song set list and and I'm I'm satisfied with it yeah, so it'll go and I'm meeting up with some yellow fans at a bar before that it'd be good bittersweet, you know bittersweet in a way, and just just kind of a nice farewell and a thank you for making making everything to me.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's, that's awesome.
Speaker 1Fantastic. So then after that, it's Gilmore, david Gilmore, in New York on the night. No, actually here, Going back to New York, I'm going back to one night up and back. Holy hell, man Yep.
Speaker 2It's the closest thing to a Pink Floyd show I'm going to get. There you go, other than Roger Waters, yeah.
Speaker 1Because David Gilmour has just put out in Variety magazine that there's no chance of Roger Waters and I ever working together. You know, they just sold the Pink Floyd catalog. Oh really, Yep, they sold the recorded music but not the publishing rights. But they sold recorded music.
Speaker 2When you say publishing rights, does that mean like t-shirts and shit, or?
Speaker 1no, no, that um, like the, I don't know how that all works you own the rights to the actual music. So if somebody else records, they do a song.
Speaker 2You get, yeah, you get a cut of that that's smart, yeah, um.
Speaker 1Yeah, and that's really. That's kind of how Michael Jackson screwed over the Beatles. You know, when he bought their publishing back in the 80s, Paul McCartney, he was asking Paul McCartney, because Paul McCartney had bought Buddy Holly's publishing and everything. So Michael Jackson, when they were doing their duets like the Girl is Mine, and Say, Say, Say, he's like, well, how do you go about doing? All this and paul was teaching him and everything like that. And then, like the next day, paul woke up and like the pole beetles catalog had been purchased.
Speaker 1You know he's like mother fucker that was so not emily and ivory? Yeah, no no, no, no, it's more like the other song he did with stevie wonder, the Tug of War album. What's that You're Doing? And so, anyway, they just sold their recorded music rights for $400 million, wow, but those guys are already.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, yeah, stupid money.
Speaker 1It's funny because it toggles back and forth between which of the two of them is richer. You know what I mean. But because Waters has done this incessant touring, you know, for years at a time he is the wealthier of the two Floyd people. And you know I think you know people can feel about Roger, for how, what his stance is on Palestine and Russia.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's taken a lot of shit for that, he shouldn't do an interview.
Speaker 1He needs to not talk about it.
Speaker 2Do not go on the Piers Morgan show At the end of the day he is Pink Floyd.
Speaker 1He wrote the lyrics. He's the lyricist he's just done brilliant stuff. The music he's done brilliant stuff. I think Gilmore has the more pleasing voice and the guitar solos so you always hold out that like maybe they could find it.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think it's now, it's over, it's over so um but um.
Speaker 1So that gilmore on november 9th, and then um, actually before that here at the bijou. Um, do you ever heard of the artist matthew sweet?
Speaker 2name sounds familiar.
Speaker 1It was early 90s kind of uh, alternative pop. Okay, you know, power pop is what they call it he's really good. I've seen him once he's doing some special acoustic show here at the bijou and I was like well, why the fuck not?
Speaker 2it's a friday night bijou. I mean, why not go to the Bijou? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1So go in that and then Timberlake on the 19th of November.
Speaker 2Talk about changing out the carpet. Bijou needs to do that, oh yeah.
Speaker 1Cool, I don't think the last time I was. What show I was there for last Been a while.
Speaker 2Mine was. Oh God, it'll come back to me who it was.
Speaker 1But yeah, I want to say Joe Jackson. Oh, wow, 2021, joe Jackson maybe.
Speaker 2I can't remember the last one I went to. It's been a while. It was out of nowhere. It's just like somebody handed me tickets.
Speaker 1And then two days later, after Justin Timberlake, I've got Daryl Hall and Howard Jones at the Tennessee Theater. That sounds cool.
Speaker 2Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1Yeah, so but then I just saw tickets were going on sale for Rick Springfield and Richard Marks and I'm like he was just here, wasn't he Right? Weren't you just here with. Reo Speedwagon Right, who are not touring now anymore Interesting, they're over anymore interesting.
Speaker 2They're over, they're done. Wow, yep, speaking of which, you see your jane's addiction. Lead singer.
Speaker 1Oh god, what a mess. Just like in the middle of the damn show tried to beat the hell out of dave navarro, whatever. Yeah, that band is a mess. Wow, it's always been a mess. Always been a mess. You know, seeing the footage it's like the fucking gallagher brothers of oasis. It's always been a mess like do we care about that reunion? No, but go back to Jane's Addiction.
Speaker 2But yeah, I mean just like mid-song. I mean I'm sure there was a reason what triggered him, but I mean he was ready to just go to blows and Dave Navarro would be living the hell out of him. I would think. But he was man enough just to walk off.
Speaker 1But I don't know who was in the wrong. Don't fuck with a guy that's had sex with Carmen Electra. Never, never, never.
Speaker 2Never, absolutely not yeah. You know like, if you keep that thing satisfied, then you do not fuck with that person.
Speaker 1You do not fuck with that person, yeah.
Speaker 2I mean I don't know, do you think he's like back on heroin or some shit?
Speaker 1I'm trying to remember who I once read something about. I don't know if it was. Maybe it was Navarro. Actually, it was just after he had left Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And he was going to take a shot at a solo career and everything and he made like a press release that he was going to start on heroin again just because it helped with the creative process and stuff like that, and I'm just like bro.
Speaker 2Bro, if you say so you may think it's great. Yeah, sure you know, but all of us have to take heroin to understand it right.
Speaker 1Damn it wow yeah, that's kind of crazy. So, yeah and yeah. So I, you know, I. I mean, I don't know much about jane's addiction. Oh yeah, no, I haven't been caught stealing.
Rock Legends who are Thug Bullies
Speaker 2Yeah, that's it, you know that's all I mean I haven't given a shit about them since that song and the video was fun as hell, sure and outside of that I was like I don't care, yeah. But just randomly seeing that video, I was like my God man, what the hell is going on? Yeah, like you're in the middle of a damn, I get it. I don't know. When they say, hey, we're in the hotel room and we got into a fight, have you ever?
Speaker 1seen that Eagles documentary the History of the Eagles.
Speaker 2No, okay.
Speaker 1You need to watch it.
Speaker 2First of all, it's really good.
Speaker 1It is about as complete as you're going to get. I love a good documentary and this is a couple years before Glenn Fry died, Okay, but they talk about the final night before Randy Meisner, who was the bassist and sang Take it to the Limit. Okay, they were on stage and apparently there was some fundraiser they were doing for some guy running for California governor or center or something like that, and Randy Meisner was kind of just an asshole Like okay, whoever you are, yeah, whatever, and it really pissed Glenn Frey off. And so they're on stage and they're getting through song by song and Glenn Frey's like yeah we got three more songs and then I'm going to kick your ass when this is over.
Speaker 2Yeah, and next song I'm getting ready?
Speaker 1I hope you're ready for it, man, because I'm coming for you and uh, and also randy meisner, apparently at the end of take it to the limit. There's those real high bits. Yeah, you know, yeah, um, and there were some nights you just say, yeah, I'm not gonna sing it, and glenn fryer's like, no, you're gonna sing them because it's what the audience expects right and uh and so that's kind of what end ended randy meisner being in the band after the Hotel California tour.
Speaker 1And that's why Timothy B Schmidt took over on bass and why he's still the bass player. Okay, that's crazy man. No, the biggest takeaway from that documentary is Glenn Frey and Don Henley are two of the biggest thug bullies in the history of rock and roll music, oh my God.
Speaker 2No, you like I just sit there and roll music. Oh my God, I love it. No, you like I just sit there in amazement, Like I'm not in the band, so do it.
Speaker 1When they are starting the process of getting everybody back together, for the Hell Freezes Over Tour.
Speaker 2Yeah, you go be.
Speaker 1Tony Soprano, glenn Frey like I mean, it all started with contract negotiations and they're just like. So I told our management that hold on here. I hope I didn't turn this off. Oh, we're still going Good. So Glenn Fry's like I went to our management and said you're going to make sure that Don Henley and I get the biggest pieces of the pie when it comes to pay, because we are the only two people that have kept the Eagles brand out there with our solo careers.
Speaker 2Because nobody's bought. There were no Joe Walsh albums there are no Timothy B Schmidt albums. Nobody knows who the fuck Don Felder is, and it's just like, oh shit.
Speaker 1And so like, here's Glenn Frey looking at the camera the whole time throughout the documentary. He's just like, fuck them. And I, the whole time throughout the documentary, he's like, yeah, fuck them and I don't care what they think. Meanwhile, don Henley is just quiet, reserved and stoic. He's like we felt that these people did not need to be making as much as we did, so Glenn and I agreed that we should be receiving a bigger cut because of our songwriting. One's a good cop, one's a bad cop, know, and they just were perfect for each other, that's so and I'm just so it's you just watch.
Speaker 2It's like oh my god, glenn fry was a fucking thug you know, he grew up in detroit and everything like that, so of course he did even bob seger.
Speaker 1Both are, like you know, probably fucking taking out lead pipes and whacking people in the knees. You know, go up to kid rock and say you're a pussy. You know who are you, you long-haired hippie, you long-haired hippie, you know You're a cowboy, baby. Yeah, it's just another tequila sunrise.
Speaker 2Oh man, I think we need to wrap up this episode. Oh yeah, definitely, I think so. We wrap up this episode. Oh yeah, definitely, I think so.
Speaker 1We've been all over the map today people.
Speaker 2Oh wow, that was fun. Episode 30.
Speaker 1Episode 30. Cheers to you for that. Cheers to episode 30.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's been a lot of fun man.
Speaker 1It's been a great ride, man. Yeah, I love it. Someday, though, we need to, and maybe this fall, because my schedule slows down quite- a bit.
Speaker 2Like we can get the girls together and go out and, oh yeah, definitely Go check out some of these places and see what all is going on. Absolutely, there's new shit popping up everywhere. We could maybe go in and break into Diamond Jacks and trash the place Get a gold fork and knife, that's right, exactly, I wouldn't have mind having one of those paintings of the chicks with the bubble gum. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, I've only been there twice.
Speaker 1I was with you there once I think yes and then Virginia and I went. Her sister was visiting town and we went there another time. Yeah and Rip, yeah, rip, rip to.
Speaker 2Ginny and I went.
Speaker 1Her sister was visiting town and we went there another time.
Speaker 2Rip yeah, rip, rip to Diamond Jacks. Cheers to you, my friend.
Speaker 1Cheers to you, my friend. Let's do episode 31. You got it. Episode 31 coming soon. © transcript Emily Beynon.
