Two Drinks In Again
Dave and Jeff have (at least) two drinks and talk about the goings-on in the Knoxville metro area. Sports, music, restaurants, movies, and really anything is up for discussion. Join us for some information and a lot of laughs.
Two Drinks In Again
Episode 39 - Scotch Snobbery and Sports Therapy: When Your Team Implodes
Every sports fan knows the unique agony of watching your team implode in a crucial moment, and in this episode, we experience the full emotional journey of Duke's stunning collapse against Houston in the Final Four. What begins as analysis of a basketball meltdown expands into a much deeper conversation about changes sweeping through college sports, particularly the NIL system that has fundamentally altered how players, coaches, and universities interact.
The transformative power of money in college athletics has created a "pay-to-play" environment where players like Tennessee quarterback Nico Iamaleava threaten to withhold participation unless financial demands are met. We examine how this shift affects team loyalty, coaching strategies, and the sustainability of college sports as we've known them. For coaches caught between recruiting new talent and re-recruiting their existing roster yearly, the landscape has never been more challenging.
Between passionate sports discussions, we celebrate surpassing 1,000 total podcast downloads and humorously navigate the worlds of scotch and wine appreciation. However, the conversation takes its most revealing turn when we admit to becoming the "older generation" we once swore we'd never be. Our candid reflections on managing younger employees who expect promotions simply for existing rather than demonstrating exceptional performance strikes a chord with anyone navigating today's changing workplace dynamics.
The episode concludes with thoughtful commentary on political polarization, particularly discussing Bill Maher's controversial dinner with Donald Trump and the importance of maintaining civil discourse across political divides. When both extremes demand complete ideological alignment, finding middle ground becomes increasingly difficult but ever more essential. Whether you're nursing the wounds of sports heartbreak or contemplating generational divides, we hope you'll join us in striving to be decent to one another, regardless of which side of any fence we find ourselves on.
Over, under, under over Two Drinks In Again was not taped before a live studio audience.
Speaker 1:John Shire. Jj Reddick is the worst coach, oh.
Speaker 2:I need some thought on that.
Speaker 1:I don't need you to worry for me because I'm all right. I don't want you to tell me it's time to come home. I don't care what you say anymore. This is my life. Go ahead with your own life, leave me alone.
Speaker 2:Hey friends, it's me Jeff. It's me. It's me David T. We are not going to shy around it, let's just get right to it.
Speaker 1:God, you're fired up, big guy.
Speaker 2:So we need to talk about the Final Four.
Speaker 1:God, and it's May. I know it's May already and you're still fucking bitter.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm not actually.
Speaker 1:I'm not. Okay, okay, I'm not.
Speaker 2:I, I'm not Okay. I mean, there's no one for me to be bitter at, except the team and the coach.
Speaker 1:Well, they basically turned into a rec league team. The final, like what minute and a half it was.
Speaker 2:I've never seen anything like it. Well, what I like to call the game against Houston was how to shit the bed in eight and a half minutes.
Speaker 1:I love that sitcom.
Speaker 2:I have been unforgiving about what the Duke team did.
Speaker 1:It was awful.
Speaker 2:There's no excuses to make for them other than they completely imploded. Yeah, zion James forgot how to inbound a fucking ball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Right there, I think that's where it all the same thing happened. Same thing over and over again. How many times did he fuck it up?
Speaker 2:I'm going to say at least three times. Yeah, many times, did he?
Speaker 1:fuck it up. I, I, I'm gonna say at least three times yeah, I mean, it was, it was absurd. Yeah, there was, they had no business losing that ball, they didn't.
Speaker 2:You're up by 14, yeah, and you just completely fucked it away.
Speaker 1:Yep, and I have nothing to do, but to also blame john shire, yes, of course you know his youth as a coach shown through on this one yep and um, just like I said about tennessee, that this the lights were just still a little bit too bright, yeah, and it got them. Yep, I mean, you could see it you could. You could see panic in every single one of their eyes, and that is that's no bueno, no no I.
Speaker 2:You know, and it's funny, you try to lay out moments because there are things where shire will like he'll bring a player in off the bench. So right now, my player that I love to hate on duke's team is caleb foster. Um, because here he he's, now coming back for his junior year.
Speaker 2:He's announced it all right, which is smart. Yeah, he has a long way to go, right, right. But you know, the expectation when he first showed up on campus is that he would be a one and done. And then that freshman year he just kind of just really kept tanking, tanking, tanking.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And then I thought this year it didn't really get any better.
Speaker 1:There's too many stars around him now.
Speaker 2:And the fact it was better having Cy and James start instead of him.
Speaker 1:Yep, but the Boozer brothers are coming, and the boozer brothers are coming, you know.
Speaker 2:and um, but, uh, no, I and so but. But in the houston game there were, when caleb was on the floor, it seemed like they had a little more of the situation under control yep and when he was ready for the moment. Yeah, and you could tell I mean fuck kala, watch just sucked ass sucked ass. Oh, you're gonna go pro, you're gonna go in the draft yeah oh really, yeah, okay, good luck, all right you have fun with that dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good luck. Like I want to make very clear to our listeners here that I am not I'm not one of those duke fans or who supports his team so rabidly that I, you know, I have, I have. Well, we didn't really get into this in the last episodes that we talked about basketball, but like I'd started talking about a guy who I'd been friends with through theater and everything like that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Like he said something to you on Facebook or some shit.
Speaker 2:I made some comment. Well, it was about the Tennessee game.
Speaker 1:And I'm like, you know well Vol vol, faithless.
Speaker 2:You can't really make any excuse that the refs had to fix in for you this time and he had commented under me he goes. You know what he goes, you just you know. Uh, yeah, but there were plenty of bad calls made, you know. Enjoy the view, your dukeness oh, and it wasn't just that, he then, he then blocked me now I've got a problem with people on social media? Who? Keyboard warrior right, they get out. It's like they've come up from behind.
Speaker 2:They've hit you and then they run away and so I'm like you know what this is fine. I'm happy to not have to be acquainted with you or associated with you anymore, because really at the end of the day I've been pleasant to you, but at the end of the day I don't like you very much.
Speaker 1:It's sports.
Speaker 2:Calm the fuck down, right right but he is like the worst every time football basketball he's like oh the fix is in. The refs have fixed the game. So yeah, no, how about tennessee?
Speaker 1:just stepped on their dicks, this game like or come to find out they were arguing over NIL money. Right, we'll get into that in a second.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God. Oh my God, so, yeah, so here's, and so I didn't really watch the championship game until there was about two minutes left in the game. I just kind of looked at the app that I followed.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh, oh, really, it's still a game. Oh, the championship game, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, houston turnaround did the same fucking thing that duke did, yeah they shit the bed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, well, I kind of was happy for that because I thought their coach was the most had the least amount of grace as a winner uh, yeah, I don't, I've never really liked him nobody has.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's done some yeah, he's just one of those like whack-a-mole guys, man, like he's done shitty things, that like all these different places oklahoma, indiana he just keeps popping up because he wins. But karma's a bitch man, right, you're not gonna.
Speaker 2:You're not gonna be rewarded for that shit hope not anyway, but he didn't this year anyway, he didn't this year, yeah, and so welcome back, florida for the third time.
Speaker 1:Oh man, that makes me sick. I'm sorry it makes me ill.
Speaker 2:I kind of didn't see that coming.
Speaker 1:Well, I did. Once we got closer to the SEC tournament, you could see them really just starting during the year. It's like man, they're good but I don't know if they're that good, I guess.
Speaker 2:I just never thought they were that much in the conversation.
Speaker 1:I thought it just never thought they were that much in the conversation. I thought that it was kind of like everyone talked about Auburn all the time. Everyone talked about Alabama.
Speaker 2:You know, UT always seems to be in the talk and Florida was there but nobody was really talking about it.
Speaker 1:Correct, and that was probably a good thing for them, probably. But that point guard I forget his name now, which pisses me off that I can't remember his name, but he's flat out an NBA point guard. I mean that was like the second coming of Jason Kidd again. I mean it's like that man could fucking. I mean he's like one of those guys. As soon as it leaves his hands, it's like okay, that's in, like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:It's good. Yeah, you know, it was in 93 that Duke lost to California against Jason Kidd. Oh yeah, I still have nightmares about that game. That guy could just run, oh yeah. I mean, the guy's built like a football player but he could sprint. As a point guard he could sprint. He was beating all the other players.
Speaker 1:Yes, it was hands down the most glaring thing. Like, oh shit, this guy is legit. Like glaring thing like oh shit, this guy is yeah legit like it's, that's some welcome to the nba.
Speaker 2:Sir heard yeah heard, so with that I'm glad the basketball season's over, and I am too shire has a chance to reflect and assess you know you're always going to learn from it.
Speaker 1:There's no, there's no greater thing than experience. You know what I mean. He has continued to learn from it. There's no greater thing than experience.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. He has continued to make forward progress. Yeah, he's made it to the final four.
Speaker 1:He's made it as many final fours as Rick Barnes has.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:So, and he's what 22?
Speaker 2:Like seriously, how old is he? What?
Speaker 1:33, 34? I'd say 35, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe 35, 37. Yeah, he graduated in 01, so it's 14 years later. There you go, so like mid-30s.
Speaker 1:So poor bastard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's gonna learn from it. He'll learn from it, but I'm still like I said, but he's reloaded with a new team.
Speaker 1:Well, I still say that flags should stay. I do too. Just go be a kid. I said it on the previous episode. Just go be a kid you don't need the money you're already making it probably a shit ton that we don't even know about. Hell he's doing commercials, big ones, fuck so let's speak about nil money and how it gets closer to home. Here let's talk about ut quarterbacks nico, I'm a a little bitch leave, ya, is that?
Speaker 2:his last name. I find it ironic. His last name is I'm a leave. Ya, I know it's so funny. I think that's hilarious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the first time somebody even pointed that out on Twitter back in the day. I went oh shit, and he sure did. Yeah, but for nothing.
Speaker 2:And I saw some sort of press conference that Heppel had. He and I saw like some sort of press conference that heppel had. Like he basically let him have it. He just like said he doesn't fucking to be a part like he dropped f-bombs in that yes conference.
Speaker 1:Yeah no, like so. Evidently the story was this guy, even before the playoff game was, got some people riled up and just like yeah, I'm asking for more money yeah so now, we have now moved into this whole nil thing, is pay to play right and fuck you ncaa for allowing this shit to happen.
Speaker 1:Yep, because it's gone from hey. Will you please do this weigel commercial about the next chug and get some nil money, you know, so you can pay for your suits and all this other stuff and we'll give you some pocket change. I'm not going to step foot, I'm not even going to show up to spring practice unless you give me $8 million. What the fuck is that? It's terrible. It's the worst.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then now, thank God that UT kind of put their foot down with it and was like, well, go fuck yourself. He ends up going to ucla, which his brother also leaves arkansas to go with him. So they arkansas, he just leaves arkansas holding a bag. So arkansas paid his brother to show and play and now he's taking the money and left. So now they're talking about suing his ass. So all this money that they were supposedly getting is now going to either pay for a lawyer or it's even less because he went to california yeah, no, I mean ucla too.
Speaker 2:I mean that's there's a hit or miss team, right, you know? I mean, I only somewhat pay attention to what they do, just because juliana went there, can you know?
Speaker 1:I don't even know the name of the coach. I don't either.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jacqueline told me, because you know, ucla is just a thoroughbred of college football, Dave Claussen, who used to coach for UT. He was the head coach at Wake Forest. Well, apparently now he's moved on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I figured he would. Everyone uses the.
Speaker 2:ACC as kind of a springboard to the big show.
Speaker 1:Yeah is kind of a springboard to the big show Wake Forest, and certain teams like that are just kind of like this yeah, you know it's not mid-tier, but it is.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Well, they're never the schools that are going to put money towards football.
Speaker 2:I think Duke is a little above that in that we do get quality players yeah.
Speaker 1:But they're gone.
Speaker 2:You all can enjoy Star thomas next year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hope so, geez you know, I, I just the nil, just bugs and shit out of me bugs the shit out of me too. Yeah, I mean again now that I found out that half the ut players were thinking about like going on strike before the playoff game for more money, like fuck, fuck that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what we don't need. Yeah, can you?
Speaker 1:imagine being the rich person and some 18-year-old kid comes up to you and says I need more millions. Mm-hmm, more millions. Not a, not a pay raise. You know what I mean yeah we're used to hearing about a pay raise yeah this. These people are coming up to you haven't done shit. I want more right more millions like no way. I'm glad ut told nico to go fuck himself yeah, I am too I hope more schools do.
Speaker 2:I kind of hope it was the one that made all the coaches just kind of sit up, because we've also talked about, you know, I mean tony bennett from uva and now he just like I can't, I can't do this, I can't do this. Yeah, guy from miami right, you know, left halfway through a game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, and we laugh and we were like, oh man, something bad's happened but this is where we're at now. Yeah, exactly, I wouldn't want to do it. Yeah, I mean, I know these guys are, these coaches are making a shit ton of money to be the, the head of the, you know of the team and right, and they earn it. Yeah, you know, but I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1:I just think it's such a headache I don't know what the future of all of this is going to be and how much of a message I would think recruiting is hard enough just to get a kid to go to your school and play initially, let alone to keep recruiting your own team Right Along with the next person that's coming in. Yeah, that that would drive me insane.
Speaker 2:I mean, I remember when I was younger and still new to the nuances of the NCAA, you know, like when Kenny Anderson left after his second year, yep and and you know he was good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a good player. He was silky, pretty fucking smooth.
Speaker 2:Good player, yeah, he was yeah, um, you know, and that was after two years, and then you know, you have you. You remember Sean Bradley, right?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, byu 7'6" center.
Speaker 2:That's all that he had going for him. Just hold your hand up and hope your hand hits the ball and blocks it, but then he goes on that mission trip for two years. And then he comes back and the Sixers recruit him and I'm like I don't know why the Sixers are thinking that you've got.
Speaker 1:Sean Bradley, I'm like that's not a great thing. Just because you're the Philadelphia 76ers doesn't mean you have to draft a seven sixer Right Like fuck that was good. That was really good, thank you, I mean, are you drafting a center or the fucking mascot Like?
Speaker 2:what the fuck? That guy was terrible too. You knew he was going to be bad. He hadn fuck. That guy was terrible too. You know he was gonna be bad. He was good, he hadn't played basketball in two years, right that.
Speaker 1:And all of a sudden he's trying to guard Shaq.
Speaker 2:So that was a different culture, though you know, I mean it was just a different culture and so and even then, once we moved into the whole one and done thing, and I think the first time you know that you know Duke experience, this was probably right after 99. It was elton brand yeah, went pro. Cory mcgetty yeah, great team, um, we had a great team, great team that never won the championship, yeah, um. And uh, who else? Uh, trajan langdon well, of course he was graduating, but then and?
Speaker 1:and william avery you know who did ran into the yukon team right yes, they did, yeah, yeah, got uh got got. Uh, yeah, beaten up. That was Calhoun's first championship, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he was a good coach too, he was a good coach.
Speaker 1:He's still alive. I don't know. I don't either. I do not know. I digress. What are we drinking today, man? I keep going back into your damn, somehow, some way, these damn Maker's Mark bottles just keep appearing in your pantry.
Speaker 2:I just you know. I see I go to Total Wine Like that's got Thompson written all over it. I see the bike bottle. I'm like man, I'm going to need that to get through the next few months of recording.
Speaker 1:So I appreciate that.
Speaker 2:I am drinking a Jura 10. Jura is a Highland Scotch. I like the color of that bad boy.
Speaker 1:Right there it is.
Speaker 2:It's good it's got a nice feel to it. I thought, because it was Jura that it might have been an Isla, but it does not have that degree?
Speaker 1:Is that on the sweet realm of the scotch realm or not?
Speaker 2:It's a little more on the sweet side of things.
Speaker 1:I got you Some more bourbon-y. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, exactly okay, which is how I like them like I would.
Speaker 1:You know, the art bags and those I you've officially have like switched me. So I used to always just say like, okay, I don't, I'll drink anything except gin and scotch. And for the, for the most part, most everyone's always told me like well, you've just never had good scotch. And I was just like, well, I don't care, doers is the introduction to scotch and I don't like it, so therefore I will not drink it. Well, you've had, you've handed me some really good scotch.
Speaker 2:It was like okay, this is a blend, is a blended scotch, it's not a single malt. All right, so that that's where you get started right there, mike I might in this. Who's your cabinet out in the main area of the basement? Like my dad's, alcohol is in that from when he gave me the hoosier cabinet and he drank doers and I'm just go dad what are we doing? Dad, you just never knew how to enjoy the finer things in life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, it's like drinking dickle, exactly right and no denigration to our listeners who might enjoy it, but I mean, it's like drinking pap's blue ribbon oh man, I had an old boss.
Speaker 1:That would just I mean he'd put it in his fucking cereal man I mean, it's just, he loved this shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah but, I. I mean it took me a while to get there, like it was, it was kind of figuring out what flavors yeah, scotches, and that's really like.
Speaker 1:That's honestly my biggest problem, yeah is because I am so used to the sweetness of bourbon to where, when it's like, all of a sudden, you're, you know you're, you're drinking coke and then drink a diet right, you're like what the fuck is that?
Speaker 2:so for our listeners, uh, who are not scotch aficionados, um, basically, when you look at your scotches, you either have blends or you have single malts. Uh, for the single malts, they're broken up into six regions, um of scotland and that's the lowlands, the highlands space side, campbellton isla, and then what they call the islands or other, and we, if you ever go to scotland, like go to, if you go to a big city like edinburgh or someplace like that, they have a scotch tasting tour that they do. And so that was kind of my indoctrination to all of this. That's awesome, where you just learn what the features are of each region.
Speaker 1:That's cool as shit.
Speaker 2:And like so with the Isla Scotch, which are Virginia's favorite, and those are your Lafroigs, ardbeg, things like that.
Speaker 1:They will have a very peaty, very hickory like you can smell the hickory like four rooms away. Oh man, you know see, I wouldn't like that shit at all. Yeah, yeah, and so it's a little powerful earthy realm. Yeah, it's a little powerful. I like the highlands if I ever hear that description about anything food, beverages, whatever and they say earthy I'm like I'm out, you're out I'm out like yeah it's already a realm of dirt yeah, exactly her chef.
Speaker 2:So, um, so that's so, that's what we do, and so I you know now it's, since I'm a scotch drinker, what I find I get for christmas a lot is I get, you know, someone will buy me a bottle of scotch, and it's. It's always a great gift too because, like you know, I mean I my uh, one of my financial planners for a christ gift got me a bottle of McCollin 15.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, that's not cheap.
Speaker 2:No, and so that's nice that he did that.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah.
Speaker 2:I've got an Aberfelty 21 that I'm sitting on for when Jeffrey graduates next year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a friend that gives you alcohol is a friend indeed. Right, a friend indeed.
Speaker 2:yes, so Strack is the one who gave me the aberfelty for a birthday present, yeah, and that's kind of why I got into them, and so I saw a 21 for sale, a total one, I'm like I'm gonna buy that and sit on it.
Speaker 1:For god, do you turn into nicholas cage every time you go into total one? You remember that movie he was in, where he was the alcoholic, where he, oh yeah, leaving las vegas, yeah, just just starts dancing and filling up the fucking cart.
Speaker 2:I could be like that. I really could. It's like being in Toys R Us, exactly.
Speaker 1:It's like oh shit, I hit the Lego aisle. It's not like an addiction thing, it's just like no all these fucking flavors that I would love to try.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's just like no all these fucking flavors that I would love to try. So I was there the other day just because we needed to get some non-Brunello wines for dinner tonight. And so you know, I mean, if we stay domestically we tend to go Pinot Noirs and whatnot.
Speaker 1:She drinks Merlot.
Speaker 2:I will drink Merlot. I got started on merlot, actually. I I really enjoyed merlot a lot and and it's, but it's just. I've gotten really shitty about american wines since like so like a cabernet sauvignon which I used to love drinking right, can't anymore that, that menage a trois triple blend. Yeah, they, yeah, I loved that stuff. That was the wine of the apartment years when I was going through my divorce and were evenings where I would just polish off a bottle of wine by myself you know I'm still not really snooty on wine.
Speaker 1:I love it all, man.
Speaker 2:I do too, I just really enjoy drinking wine. It's kind of when you know how to taste it. Yeah, that's when you can really kind of learn how to complement it with your meals.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:And how to you know just.
Speaker 1:Boy, don't we sound fucking snobbish right now. I was going to say my God Jesus. Now I'm going to tell you this folks, guarantee, the people from Anderson don't shut us off.
Speaker 2:Wow, so the 109 people that downloaded episode 34.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you. What is?
Speaker 2:I don't know, like I don't know, I haven't even played that episode. I mean, I've listened to it, but like I haven't listened, to it.
Speaker 1:I had to go back to like just read what it was. I'm like, what did we say? Yeah, I was a little bit all of it.
Speaker 2:But like apparently, thank you. It's the most downloaded show of 1,000 total downloads.
Speaker 1:No shit, yeah Wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hell yeah. 1,000 total downloads.
Speaker 1:I feel like we should get like a button or something from Spotify or something From.
Speaker 2:Buzzsprout, we get a badge, do we?
Speaker 1:We did. Hell, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:We get a badge for that.
Speaker 1:That is so cool. I'm a words of affirmation. Love language guy. That's the shit I need. You give me an award.
Speaker 2:I'm in. You know, that is so cool, so I am the trophy child.
Speaker 1:I love it. That is awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, yeah, so anyway. So we broke 1,000 total downloads and this episode 34, which, again, I have no idea what the fuck we said, but apparently we struck a chord with people. Yeah, it was everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did. I have no idea what the fuck we said, but apparently we struck a chord with people. Yeah, it was everything. Yeah, we did. First we were talking about being sports parents and then it ended in politics, but we talked about kids though in between too. I think that kind of strikes a point with people a little bit, no doubt Just to listen to two divorced guys.
Speaker 1:Well you're either a kid or you have kids, or both. I mean, at some point you know you were a kid and you've lived through half the shit that you and I talked about, right, or you're managing it Right. I mean, it's a big deal. It is a big deal.
Speaker 2:Life's hard, man. It is, as you say, not easy. Yeah, it is, it's not easy. It's been a rough go. This year's been a weird year.
Speaker 1:How the fuck is it May? Can you tell me that?
Speaker 2:please, it's gotta be May. Guys got Cinco de Mayo Coming up Monday.
Speaker 1:Holy shitballs, I swear to shit. I just took down my.
Speaker 2:Christmas lights. Or as the Trump administration calls May 5th Monday I swear to shit, I just took down my Christmas lights.
Speaker 1:Or, as the Trump administration calls May 5th Monday.
Speaker 2:I just can't anymore. We're not gonna celebrate any special traditional ethnic holidays because that's too woke for us it's damn comical.
Speaker 1:It's comical, it's really gotten to be just this fucking like what next? Traditional ethnic?
Speaker 2:holidays, because that's too woke for us. It's damn comical. It's comical. It's really gotten to be just this fucking like what next? What next?
Speaker 1:And that's the way I take it. It's like it's seriously comical.
Speaker 2:Do we have anything more sports to talk about? I think we've milked sports.
Speaker 1:I mean I could talk my cold open with JJ Redick. I mean we'll move on from sports First season with the Lakers, but he's got LeBron and Luka and can't win a fucking playoff series. Eesh, I feel like I could have won that series and this is my guy, like JJ.
Speaker 2:Well then, why did you take the job at UT as opposed to going out for?
Speaker 1:the.
Speaker 2:NBA yeah.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine me on an NBA sideline?
Speaker 2:I would love to see the camera just capture you every time.
Speaker 1:My small ass. It'd look like a damn little circus freak.
Speaker 2:It would be like Jerry Tarkanian chewing on the towel.
Speaker 1:I would get kicked out of every fucking game. I know I would. I would be out in the first seven minutes every time. I can't handle it, man. I hate it for JJ because, seriously, he's my guy. I love that. I've never been envious of a person in my life.
Speaker 2:I am amazed at the trajectory of his whole career. He's so good looking he'd shoot the rock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, let's see what the fact is.
Speaker 2:Good looking, okay, it's like my my then four-year-old daughter when he was playing for duke would be like daddy, I think I want to marry jj and I'm like fair. Okay, fair me too. That's fair. Attracts, you know. And uh, she's like ford at the time. He's like 18, 20, like he's. Yeah, I forget what he was, he was maybe 20 and something like that well, I felt like he was a dude for 20 years.
Speaker 1:I felt like yeah, it was a long period, but he was awesome man he was.
Speaker 2:He was a great player. Had that scoring record. Yeah, had the. I think he had the assist record I love a score.
Speaker 1:I love a score in basketball and that's why I love jj so much like the whole place knows that you're gonna shoot and try to score and they're doing anything and everything to try to stop you and then you're just gonna sink the shot. Yes, always that fucking makes my nipples tingle. I love that stuff.
Speaker 2:It is like when I see the playback and I want to say 2013 maybe Duke versus UNC Austin Rivers, the final shot.
Speaker 1:Oh, and I hated Austin Rivers.
Speaker 2:And I did too.
Speaker 1:I hated him. Man, do I love that shot? I love that shot. For one moment I could love him.
Speaker 2:Just to watch an entire arena have the oxygen sucked out of it like it was awesome like they had led unc, had led that whole game, and then rivers. Just yeah, fuck you you know what?
Speaker 1:oddly enough, the two duke players that I've hated the most have two of the most iconic shots against UNC Rivers and Capel. I hated Capel.
Speaker 2:God, I still hate Capel. I still hate Capel too. Yeah, if I see him, who's he coach for now? Pitt, still, I thought he left. No, if he left for Pitt, that's news to me. Okay, but every time I even just see him on the sidelines man, I was like one hot minute that, I think, when he was still like an associate coach for duke.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hated him when he was well, I mean like it's funny too, because he'd done vcu and then he'd gone to oklahoma and then he stepped back to take an associate coaching position at duke and I'm like I don't know, what did you feel you had more to learn well, master or I thought it was he was next in line when he did that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 2:There were a lot of former Duke players who became coaches.
Speaker 1:That got fucked over by all that I totally agree with you. There are some singed feathers.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, like let's start with Tommy Amaker. Oh he honest to God, thought he was going to get it. I'm like, dude, you've been up at Harvard the whole time. Is he even coaching anymore? I don't even know. But the last I heard he was at Harvard, and what are we supposed to do with that?
Speaker 1:Right yeah, the only reason Shire got is due to the recruiting.
Speaker 2:I think there was a Chicago thing too. Oh shit, I think it was a chicago thing, okay, yeah I didn't put that in, yeah okay, then yeah can't argue that, because I did think that steve wojewowski might have had a shot at one point just because of the polish connection?
Speaker 1:yeah, but then he, you know, he just shit over marquette yeah, and like he's not coaching anywhere now right he is?
Speaker 2:I don't know it I don't either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't know.
Speaker 2:Anyway, he's like uh well he's like you know well, not not quite there, but like you know, if you go back to the 94 95 season, when k sat out for the season and duke just like died that year.
Speaker 1:Oh man, that was brutal and pete got at, took over and just like, I mean yeah you normally.
Speaker 2:You know you, it's a tight game. Cameras pan to the side. This coach k with a grim look on his face and everything that pete got.
Speaker 1:It looked like he was having a coronary every time, and that's not what your players want to see. The end of that season was like jeff goldblum coming out of that thing as the fly yes, it was brundle fly all over again just put my shit out of misery just take pete held the gun for you put it to his head.
Speaker 2:It's okay, just please shoot, just pull the trigger it's okay and and I think that guy was last coaching like middle school oh yeah, middle school girls, I don't even think, I don't even think it's that, I think he's like it's just gym teacher yeah yeah and that's a, and that's when k cleaned house oh yeah, no, he knew he had to at that point.
Speaker 1:everybody, yeah, he knew he had. You know that point. He got rid of everybody. Yeah, he knew he had to, and they went on.
Speaker 2:Everyone who sat on the bench has gone to have a respectable like Mike Bray at Notre Dame and Amaker wherever he's. I mean, what about Dawkins? Where did he go? I want to say he's at Florida Atlantic.
Speaker 1:That's right? Yeah, I thought it was.
Speaker 2:I mean, we've talked about it a million times on this podcast, but like I get a feeling there's something happened, yeah, like in the relationship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, had to have Because, I mean, he was a secondhand man for fucking Forever, forever.
Speaker 2:And that was the guy that made Coach K, coach K.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, he was pretty decent, yeah, basketball.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, he was. He was pretty decent. Yeah, okay, well, basketball's over, so let's, I'm done talking about yeah let's talk about baseball. No, I'm just gonna shoot me in the face, then what's going on around town?
Speaker 1:well, oddly enough, I was gonna go to the smokies game last night have you been to the new stadium, my? Company? No, I have not, but my company's got season tickets and there's like second row behind home plate. They were, you know, take clients and whatnot. But we were supposed to go last night until I saw that, you know, twisters three was about to come and I was like I'm not going.
Speaker 1:I wasn't going to just sit, sit there at a rain delay, but everybody that's been there it says it's incredible. I'm glad they brought them back. You remember were you here when they had that old shit stadium downtown?
Speaker 2:no, the smokies no.
Speaker 1:Before they moved out to severe? No, because when we moved here, in 2001 like we stopped by the smoky stadium as we were coming into knoxville, okay, yeah, yeah, I mean that that ballpark was really cool, like I have no idea what the fuck.
Speaker 2:I saw zach brownpan there, really I've never seen a smoky's baseball game, but I I did see zach brownpan there in 2009, 2008, 2009 that's an odd venue for him yeah, right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a good show, yeah, it's a great ballpark but what? What do you do with an old ballpark ballpark. What do you do with an old ballpark? What do you do with it? What?
Speaker 2:is Sevierville going to Concerts? Yeah, I mean, that's a venue for them if they want. You know what?
Speaker 1:Honestly, I'll tell you what. Just Buc-ee's by it and put one across the street.
Speaker 2:You know what you do. Here's what you do, because I think this area has been in sore need of like an amphitheater for concerts.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, nashville had one, it was awesome. Antioch, the one outside in Antioch yes, I saw Fleetwood Mac there once. Starwood Amphitheater yes, that place was awesome.
Speaker 2:That place was fucking awesome yes. No, I saw Fleetwood Mac there for the fourth time on the Say you Will Tour. I think it was like 2003, 2004 or something like that um and um, no good place, but like we don't have enough of that. And of course you know when I lived in virginia beach. I mean this is the the gte amphitheater or whatever the fuck it's called now but I've seen more concerts there, living there and, as you know, I would deliberately travel there. I just love an outside concert.
Speaker 1:I do too. This is great yeah. I'm not going to go in debt to go to Coachella, like supposedly everyone else is doing right now.
Speaker 2:Well, my daughter went to Coachella.
Speaker 1:Well, I hope she didn't go into debt. Have you seen all those news reports and shit?
Speaker 2:about that?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know, I don't know how she funds things or how she gets access to things, and I figured the less I ask, the better off I am. I'm going to agree with you on that. Yeah, I don't want to know.
Speaker 2:So, for those of you who have followed our episodes and everything for a while, my daughter was kind of the third person on a podcast on YouTube called the Lunch Table with Zach and Skylar, and she is no longer with that and I guess it was an amicable enough parting.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to go into too much detail about it because she's asked me not to no need to air laundry.
Speaker 2:Well, no, there's no real dirty laundry to air. I think it was always just this was a door opening for her to do something else. I hear you, and so she is now the lead marketing person for an ai company hell yes, yeah, when that start. That started, uh, I want to say maybe february, but she I mean, as this was the as the podcast thing was phasing out, she already had like job offers lined up.
Speaker 1:Awesome, she is great at networking yeah, and she's got a real, she's got a real solid work ethic too.
Speaker 2:Like she you know she is she she'll kill herself for a job to do it well yeah, that's fantastic, I told her I said you need to make your bosses always feel that you are. You are the most valuable person on the team and that way, when it comes time hey, can you hook me up with something like they'll do that.
Speaker 1:Yep, they won't hesitate. They won't hesitate I mean I've got plenty.
Speaker 2:Employees will be like you know, like they'll have a personal thing come up and they'll say do you mind if I leave like a half hour early, like every other tuesday? Yeah sure, please. I mean, I'm not. I mean, why would I say no to that if you're a great employee?
Speaker 2:you know, and so because we're still dealing with the whole one class remaining issue, jesus, and and we had to talk about that when I went to visit, I bet you did, we did, it was nice, it I mean. And so I've tabled the conversation and that's easier for me, but we've kind of laid out a plan of attack to get this one last class squared away so that you know because now the plan is good now the joke is this is is who will get their diploma first, Juliana or Jeffrey?
Speaker 1:That's good Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I always call. What you're talking about with employees is just constantly build equity.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You're going to need to tap into your equity at some point and if you're constantly building that equity, your boss is going to allow you to have it.
Speaker 2:Sure, you know, yeah, I just yeah, you know, I told her, I said it's the damn people that don't have any equity and bad credit.
Speaker 1:that come to you. Yes, exactly that. Come to you for a favor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I need this, you know I have had a fair number of team members over the 23 years that I have been employed, and most of them have been very, very young people that just don't seem to get it where it's like well the one that left me at the end of last year. You know, at one time it's like, well, my husband and I are going to, we want to build a house, and so I'm going to need a raise and I'm like should have thought about that.
Speaker 2:Maybe don't build the house, you know but that's the mindset that you're dealing with people these days is. It's like, man, we're going to plan, make these life plans, but let's but. And then I'll ask my, my boss is going to I, so I call it. I joke, I jokingly called it to all of my office managers who would listen would be I call it the jeff eberting socialist program that I just had. It's not enough you get a wage but I've got to pay for everything else too. Damn socialism, Damn fucking socialism.
Speaker 1:I hate saying this, because now I'm becoming this guy that I never I always said I wasn't going to be. I was never going to be the guy to frown upon the younger generation yeah. But I frown upon the younger generation, yes. What I'm getting now. Welcome to the club.
Speaker 2:We have cookies, yeah, but I frown upon the younger generation. Yes, what I'm getting now? Welcome to the club. We have cookies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, what I don't get now is the expectation of for them to get more or a promotion just because they exist. Yes, have you seen that?
Speaker 2:I experience it. Yeah, I do too, all the time.
Speaker 1:And it's just one of those things it's like well, you know, this is a two-way street. I promote you when I feel like you've given me something in return, but if you're the one that's cutting corners, or I look at you throughout your day and like I see the potential, but I think that you're, or if I have. Oh yes, sir, if I have.
Speaker 2:Look at this guy, all right.
Speaker 1:Special guest star.
Speaker 2:Hey, welcoming in the room here, and we're going to pause then for a minute so I can hook up a microphone for him, and we're going to pause then for a minute so I can hook up a microphone for him. We have Dave Strachwading, who has now entered the room. We have our first guest on Tudor and Synder. This good-looking guy right here, look at him 39 episodes in and we have our first guest. I love it.
Speaker 1:There you go, I love it, so we're going to quick pause here. Yeah, hell, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2:Good to see you, man. Okay, we're back from a quick break. We were going to try and get a third microphone set up and have our first official guest after 39 episodes, but in the room we have our friend, dave strakwedine. Uh, from uh, bg, dave and um uh, we are. We're glad to have him in the room cheers to this guy there you go slangeva anyway um weáinteva Anyway.
Speaker 1:We were at Fuck them Kids. I think we were at.
Speaker 2:Fuck these Kids man. No, it was. I mean seriously. It's the whole you know like just exist and kiss my ass and all that kind of thing, and I didn't want to become that old guy where I was just going to get old, you know.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:But I've become that guy.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I like the old Simpsons character man. I'm like, I'm shaking my fist.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know and and um, I think that they're just a bunch of wusses when it you know, comes to the. I really do on the whole. I just think as a generation. They're weak. The young people are. They just don't have that fortitude that some of us. Gen Zers.
Speaker 1:We're Xers.
Speaker 2:Gen Xers. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1:Gen Xers, yeah, yeah. What is the generation term now for kids? 18? Well, I don't know where the cutoff is.
Speaker 2:It's Gen Z, but now they're calling it gen alpha is the next upcoming. Does that mean there's going to be a gen beta?
Speaker 1:probably. Oh, no, yeah that's not good.
Speaker 2:We'll be doing a lot of beta testing. That's not good.
Speaker 1:That's not good, you know no, I I have, uh, and you know what I probably was that way, um, you know, looking back on it, but I, I just the entitlement drives me absolutely insane oh yeah, no, it drives me crazy it drives me crazy. It totally drives me crazy yeah, it's like going to that old madman episode the check.
Speaker 2:That's my thank you right, exactly like that and and it's funny because and I know I I'm sure I probably have talked about this a long time ago, but like there was a time in like 2014, 15, thereabouts, I had these two employees that had come from like the northeast part of Knox County, so they were like Halls and Gibbs graduates, I like it.
Speaker 2:And I called them the Halls Gibbs millennials from hell. And like in this time was when the halls gibbs millennials from hell, and like in this time was when the practice was in a rough patch, we were in 10 care time out and and uh, and I was just trying to build something new and it was like what I paid them for their salary was enough to get them to the door, to get them to the office and inside, and I felt like anything else I asked after that was like an act of Congress and that's the beginning of that feeling that I had where it no, I pay you a wage to do your job.
Speaker 1:And you know what the shitty part about that is Is. You'll turn around and fuck the overachiever by that, Because you won't go to that low performer to give them the more responsibilities or to do something for you. You'll go to that person that you've been fucking burning to death and be like oh hey, I need you to do this for me as well, Because you trust them.
Speaker 2:I have said over and over again that the people who pay for the sins of past employers are the ones who stayed. And I hate that I of past employers are the ones who stayed, and I hate that I do, but it's like there are. You know, you could look through my policy manual and I can tell you specific sections and who they're dedicated to.
Speaker 1:you know, You've said that before. It's like rule number four is Steve's.
Speaker 2:It's dedicated to this person. So, oh man.
Speaker 1:But management's hard as it is, I mean, but now I don't know man, management's hard, management's hard as it is, I mean, but now I don't know, man, it's just crazy. And then the and the ability this is concerning too, for even for my, for my daughter, the ability to not handle stress without just like really just the inability to handle stress, I mean.
Speaker 2:I don't?
Speaker 1:it's bizarre to me. I don't get that.
Speaker 2:Adulting is hard.
Speaker 1:Is that what cell phones did? Yes, no, damn you.
Speaker 2:TikTok. No, I'm serious, like I have said this over and over again, and if it sounds like I'm parroting Bill Maher when I say it, well, maybe I am, because I watch him a lot, but the phones have made us assholes.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:They really have.
Speaker 1:It goes back to that whole keyboard, warrior shit.
Speaker 2:Yes, well, now you know, and back when the Internet started.
Speaker 2:now everyone feels they have a voice and their voice is important and you know, oh, I'm going to go on this blog and I'm going to tear this person apart and so on. Watch me, I took down, you know, I took a shot at this celebrity and whatnot and everything, and so it's like. It's like anytime the, the girl from glee, michelle lee, gets anything, gets any kind of great part or something like that, you always have to wonder if there's that cast member from glee that's gonna like you know, who michelle lee, and she had a issue.
Speaker 2:Samantha, where I think her name is. You always are. Okay, I'm waiting for the tweet now to it's like drop it. You're not making yourself look good you know, and it's just, everyone feels that they can just take a shot at everybody and I've had it happen to me, you know, and oh yeah and you know I'm it's always funny, like you know, when you tap that into google reviews.
Speaker 1:Being a business owner, are you not gonna be three drinks in again? I don't know what the hell I'm in at this point. I just know I'm not empty. How about that?
Speaker 2:So yeah, we by the way, I think we talked about what you were drinking. We never talked about what I was drinking, did we talk?
Speaker 1:about what I was drinking. Yeah, you gave us a whole fucking like scotch speech. Oh, that's why I gave you a history on Jura is.
Speaker 2:I think I gave you a speech on scotch. I just never said what I was drinking. I'm drinking what's called Jura. This is from the Highlands. It's right near Isla. For a moment I thought it was an Isla scotch, but no, anyway, I'm drinking Jura All right so.
Speaker 1:Okay, you brought him up. I want to talk about him because I want your thoughts on it.
Speaker 2:Bill Maur. He, I told you the way he keeps going, he's gonna end up republican.
Speaker 1:I was totally fine with him having dinner with trump, so was I, but he's getting pushback. I knew and I knew he would.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think it's ridiculous well, I say that I have republican friends and I'm not willing to give up those friendships, just some I am, but some I am not and, and it comes upon where their positions are. I've got some friends that are overt racists.
Speaker 1:And you just kind of okay, that's a hard.
Speaker 2:No, we'll just not talk about this and there are some of my fraternity brothers I have one in particular. We'd gotten together for dinner a year or two ago when he came through town to visit, and it's just like let's just keep the politics off the table we won't talk about it, I get that and that's fine, we can do that you know, and and I think it's harder to do it when you know, though that other that people are voting for things that are undermining, that are hurting other people, that are, that are causing those.
Speaker 2:anyway, bill maher, yeah, um yeah, bill Maher. I think what I have loved about Bill Maher is that I think he tries to present the sane side of the left, because he is right. There is this element to the left that is just as extreme as the mag is on the right, sure, sure, and I.
Speaker 1:That's with everything.
Speaker 2:Well, it is, and you're going to have that. But this whole, and you're gonna have that, but this whole. You know, and again we've said this on numerous episodes this whole notion that the extreme, left or the woke have the one great truth and they, you have to be allied with them 100, you can't be 90, 10 like I'm here with you 90, but these 10 things, you know, if that 10, they will fucking destroy your world.
Speaker 2:But here's the problem then is that mag on the other side is here. We'll take your 10, yep, and then we'll bring you over. We'll get the other 90 in time, and that's what's happening, and and so it's. There's a book out there by ezra klein called abundance that I really want to read, and it's it it. I think it addresses a little of that, but it addresses more, like other problems with the Democrats or what happened under Biden. Like you know, we talk about this Inflation Reduction Act and all these great projects that were starting to wake of them. Well, you have all of these regulations that are in like to get that money. There was like a 14 step process.
Speaker 1:No one's going to fucking do it.
Speaker 2:Three people out of 56 regions. They divided the country up into three of them.
Speaker 1:Got through to the very end, just in time for trump to probably say yeah I'm not giving you the money, yeah, no, it's, you know, I mean it is, I mean it's just crazy.
Speaker 2:So there's, there's. I think there is some weird. There are things were over regulated on yeah um, but they talk about in california all the time like they've wanted to build this light rail system from san francisco to los angeles yeah, and he spent like more money on the surveys than they have on on the actual project would have cost in the billions, right, yeah, and not a fucking.
Speaker 1:Not a fucking has been nope, but no one.
Speaker 2:No track has been laid. God, that's crazy, it is, it is. And and mar then goes on about what it takes for him to have someone come out to do his fucking solar solar roof that he wants to have done. You know, but that's a problem. Like you know, can you bet. So it's, so, it's, it's. It's just a madhouse and everything. So I am not abandoning the Bill Maher ship.
Speaker 1:No, because he would think you would. I was just curious of what your thoughts were.
Speaker 2:I honestly thought he was going to have Trump on the show.
Speaker 1:That's not going to be out of the possibility, but he said some valuable things to Trump.
Speaker 2:He said you know you're scaring people. Yeah, I mean, and that's good that he could say that I know, but that's what it takes.
Speaker 1:You know again, I'm not, not, I'm the guy that says I'm not the democrat or republican. But I mean it's gonna take somehow that bipartisan shit to get at least some logical stuff done I've gotten to now the mindset that I don't I you know.
Speaker 2:And now it's this weird standoff we have going on here, because I've been surprised at the way the courts have pushed back on most of the executive orders that have come through. Okay, so now, now the state, now we see what, where this goes. But I, I honestly don't think it's Trump pulling, pulling the strings on any of this. I think it's Stephen Miller. I think he's, I think he's doing all Stephen Miller. To me, stephen Miller is what Prince William looks, looks like if you get kicked out of the dungeons and dragons club. Seriously, I look at both of them and like the first time, well, I mean, I became where stephen miller right as this, the trump era, was all coming into play. But but, as I've kind of vetted him a little bit, he first came on the scene. He's a Duke alum.
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, we're so proud. No, he first came on the scene being interviewed, like on Bill O'Reilly and everything, because he was hardcore, staunch in the corner of the duke lacrosse players oh, okay, that's the only thing that stephen miller and I agree on yeah is is the way that you know. There was the group of 88 faculty members that wrote this letter disparaging every like, and wasn't it the chick that came out just a couple years ago and said, oh, I lied about the whole.
Speaker 2:Oh, so no apologies or anything like that, but let's destroy these three young men Because the three white men they had to have done it that was bad, not a good look. No, it's not a good optic at all, and so this is the one thing Stephen Miller and I were in agreement on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that cracks me up about the Stephen Miller thing, because it's always, you know, it's either he's a dictator and he does everything, and it himself he's not gonna allow anybody else to do anything, but then there's always oh, there's this other guy that's doing it. So it's always funny to me yeah it's like. Which one is he? Is he the dictator that doesn't allow anyone else to do anything, or is he a puppet?
Speaker 2:I really don't know. No one does no one. He's crazy as shit it is. You know, it has been like when we were talking with your boy schumer the other day.
Speaker 1:No, I don't even want to see my boy schumer. I'm ready for my boy schumer to go away oh, this was hilarious, so that it was they were at. He was up at the his little pulpit about the 100 days and how the polls are coming out, that it was the worst 100 days ever for any president, since they've recorded it, yeah he goes through his whole spiel.
Speaker 1:A reporter then turns to him and says I want to let you know that how do you feel about you being at 17% approval of your latest poll? He said, ah, polls come and go. It's like, oh, brother, you just spent 20 minutes talking about a poll, but when it was about you, it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter no, that and that's the problem.
Speaker 2:And I've been saying this about the democratic party the whole time. It's gotta be. I mean, it doesn't matter. No, and that's the problem.
Speaker 1:And I've been saying this about the Democratic Party the whole time. Well, it's both parties, man. I mean it's both parties.
Speaker 2:No, it is. But I mean like, but you get these old farts that just they need to go.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like Pelosi and Schumer, you and I have been screaming term limits forever.
Speaker 2:Oh, forever. But you know, and those guys, they just need to go. Um, I will openly say this, and this is just coming from out of nowhere I'm filled with so much self-loathing that I think christy gnome's hot. I hate myself for that. I hate myself. I really do. I don't even know what to say, right, I just wish I could turn into a dog so she could shoot me in the head and put me out of my misery my wife's gonna hate me for admitting this you might actually have to edit I might have to edit this out it's okay.
Speaker 1:By this time everyone's turned it off. That's okay no, they're not, no, they're not no one wants to listen to us for 51 minutes it depends on the episode it appears that's true like 34 was great, 38 38 did we get any listeners for that one?
Speaker 2:friends, we need you to email into us on apple podcasts and spotify and everywhere else to tell us what it is you want, that you like, that we talk about, like, why do some episodes resonate so much more with you than others? And I get. If you don't want to hear us talk about the mcu have you seen thunderbolts yet? Nope, why do some episodes resonate so much more with you than others? And I get it. If you don't want to hear us talk about the MCU, have you seen Thunderbolts yet? Nope, don't say anything.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen it either. Okay, I'm planning on going next weekend.
Speaker 2:Okay, I guess I will too. I'm fucking fired up about it. I'm excited.
Speaker 1:I'm finally starting to see good reviews again. Yeah, yeah, again, yeah, yeah, I think it was given like a solid b grade.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't care which. Which is fine with me. Which is fine with me like anything's better than she hulk.
Speaker 1:Yeah it was bad. I could have been so good, could have been so good yeah, um we need to wrap it up, go eat is it?
Speaker 2:will it be time to eat? I don't know, I don't know, it could be yeah, all right, I'm getting hungry, you're getting hungry. Okay, yeah, all right. So let's see, we talked about final four.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the next episode we do have to talk about the first hundred days oh sure we have to talk about that and that's a, that is a loaded, that's good yeah are we allowed to look at our 401k plans at this point?
Speaker 2:not yet no, I I'll be honest I look at the market every day I do too, just and seriously, no, seriously, I'm now like I look at it. Come on, little guy you oh, you just went past 41 000. Oh, you're gonna get back to 45 before you know it.
Speaker 1:Oh come on, come on, little guy, but will it though?
Speaker 2:I don't know exactly, you know we don't know because I'm gonna cut the funding on npr and pbs because of the woke liberal mentality that they have yeah, it's jack man it's.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of weirdness in the world it's something. It's more than something in the water yeah, I said in the world, but yes, but yes, I, I you know it's possibly too much orange paint on the face, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll have to get into that next time.
Speaker 1:Yep, for sure, guys, it's a rough world out there. That's like a four-hour episode.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's it. We'll do a series.
Speaker 1:We'll do a four-part series.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dissecting the first hundred days, the first quarter, the second, that's the pod save america theme song. So, um, all right man all right we're gonna wrap it up.
Speaker 1:I know we could talk for days, but we could talk for days okay, well listen, you know people.
Speaker 2:We tell you it's. It's a rough gig out there, god it. It seems to get rougher and rougher yes, I don't know.
Speaker 1:The bible told us it would be.
Speaker 2:The bible told us it would be it would be that, indeed, but what we ask you at the end of the day is to please be decent to each other yes, please. And you know, I I do have hope that one day we'll get back to a world where it doesn't matter what side of the fence you sit on. We can just be decent. We can talk, we can you know, I hope so. Exactly, we can lift drinks to each other. We'll do it now, and we'll do it right now. Cheers, cheers.
Speaker 1:Cheers. I don't care what, Tell what you say anymore. This is my life. Go ahead with your own life, leave me alone. Keep it to yourself, it's my life. Keep it to yourself, it's my life.
