Two Drinks In Again

Episode 40 - We haven't killed each other in 40 episodes, and that's something worth celebrating.

Dave & Jeff Season 1 Episode 40

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The bromance is over, Knoxville is thriving, and restaurant bills are giving us heart attacks. Welcome to Episode 40 of Two Drinks and Again, where we're somehow still talking to each other after all this time!

We kick things off with a new format structured like an old-school newspaper (remember those?), diving into national, local, sports, and entertainment topics. The Trump-Elon breakup dominates our national discussion, as we analyze what happens when two massive egos collide and what it means for the political landscape. Why is Trump being so uncharacteristically quiet? Could Elon actually become a political force despite not being a citizen? Meanwhile, the Democratic Party faces its own generational struggles, pushing out younger voices just when they need them most.

Locally, we marvel at Knoxville's transformation, particularly the stunning new Smokies baseball stadium that's revitalizing once-avoided areas of the city. We're genuinely impressed by the thoughtful development happening throughout East Tennessee, even as we puzzle over how anyone affords those $3,000/month downtown apartments. Where are all these people working?!

On the entertainment front, we give enthusiastic reviews of Marvel's Thunderbolts (David Harbour continues to be a national treasure) and share our excitement for the upcoming Fantastic Four movie. And yes, we have strong feelings about Tom Cruise still doing his own ridiculous stunts at whatever age he is now.

Through it all, we wrestle with aging, parenting adult children who still somehow disrupt vacation plans, and the bittersweet reality of planning for retirement. Whether you're nodding along or shouting counterpoints at your device, we invite you to join our conversation about navigating life's absurdities with humor and perhaps just a touch of makers mark or glenlivet to ease the journey.

Give us a five-star review if you enjoy our ramblings – after all, we're just trying to be decent to each other in increasingly indecent times.

Episode 40 Introduction

Speaker 1

Two Drinks and Again was not taped before a live studio audience.

Speaker 2

So is it cool again to buy a Tesla?

Speaker 1

Oh Jesus, I have no idea. Hey friends, it's me Jeff.

Speaker 2

It's me. It's me, david T, number 40, bro, number 40. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1

Episode 40.

Speaker 2

What are we doing?

Speaker 1

I have no fucking idea. Like you know, and again you know, it's funny because we you know episode. Was it 34?

Speaker 2

Yeah. Like it is still off the charts Still climbing the charts.

Speaker 1

Still climbing the charts. You know, it's like when Dark Side of the Moon was out like, and still legitimately on the Billboard charts Like it was on the Billboard charts for like 740 plus weeks and then it dropped off, and then after that they're like okay, this is a good time for us to create another chart so that, like for albums like this, and it was just like I mean, okay, Wish you Were here is long gone. The Wall is long gone, Animals is long gone, but here's Dark.

Speaker 2

Side of the Moon. Yeah, you know God, it's classic. But yeah, episode 34.

Speaker 1

We haven't killed each other. We have not killed each other. No, no.

Speaker 2

Yoko Ono or nothing?

Speaker 1

No, Yoko Ono or anything like that, Although I'm going to tell you this because, I was out to lunch with them. We were out to lunch or dinner.

Speaker 2

With Yoko Ono?

Speaker 1

No, we were out to dinner with the Schusters Sorry to dox people and we have the request for someone to sit in the guest seat. Oh, yeah, okay, so he has requested, all right, and so I'm like, okay, we're open to that now. Okay, I'm sad we weren't able to get Strack on the mic, I know, but man, it was good to see him. It was great to see him. Yeah, it's not a shame to see him.

Speaker 2

Yeah, all the time.

Speaker 1

How's everything been going with you. Been going good man New job going well.

Speaker 2

New job's going well. I have a graduate Right Graduate from high school. Yeah, senior year flew by, but yeah, we made it through that the second nut drops. New job. It's summertime, you know, he's got his own job now. Right, it's good stuff man Outstanding.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I can't complain about anything. And you said he goes to school, starts school mid-August Yep, mid-August Nice.

Speaker 2

Daddy will cry some tears on that drop-off but you know it's been a big difference going from Murfreesboro all the way down to Daytona. I would imagine, yeah, yeah, big change for Daddy.

Speaker 1

But, you know, finally took a vacation good for you two weeks ago. Well, no, yeah, two weeks right before it started, right before memorial day weekend, um, I had not really taken a break since the new year had started. And I mean that trip out to la to visit my daughter, that's how? Is it already june, by the way, right, how?

Speaker 2

is it already right exactly?

Speaker 1

yeah. So I went down to visit mom in Hilton Head, nice, and this was going to be the true test of what it is like to do a full week with her.

Speaker 2

Oh, okay, post hip breakage. Yeah, you know yeah.

Speaker 1

And I was like, just I was worrying to Virginia, I'm like going, I'm going to lose my goddamn mind 48 hours in. I gonna be like I've got to come home. I can't do this. No, it was fine, it was great, we had a great time. Um, there's the case. I mean one thing I kind of had to lay out that 40s open white. Yes, yeah, and even that's not so awful, even though it goes down to one lane, but at least you're moving.

Speaker 2

Yes, you know yeah, I had it. I had. It was more troublesome coming back because people started gawking yeah because, Because you know what I mean.

Speaker 1

You can see down into that abyss In Philadelphia for KYW 1060, we call that a gaper delay. I feel like I've had a few of those in my life. A gaper delay See a lot of those on Memorial day weekend, usually on the monday, um so no, so we went down there and and, and I went down a couple days ahead, virginia came down on memorial day and so it was nice and so there were some things.

Speaker 1

You know. I told mom that, um, I I you know this isn't my standard come down just for the weekend and honeydew list and all that shit. I'm happy to do stuff to help you out and everything, but this is also my vacation, right? You know? Like?

Speaker 2

I haven't had my authority.

Speaker 1

I haven't had a break this year, right like I know. Like you're gonna run out of bananas at some point. You cannot wear me out about going to get the. Are you gonna go bananas today?

Speaker 2

are you?

Speaker 1

gonna get the bananas, like she will spin out over shit, like that, and so I said I'm not, we're not doing that this week, you know, but I'll help you out with it with anything you need. So we had to like we were applying for her to get a disability placard and plate oh cool, you know, because of her hip replacement and everything.

Speaker 1

So, um, was that a? Was that troublesome? Well, we could have just sent the papers in. Instead, we actually went to the dmv and that wasn't awful, but it was like having an eight-year-old with you and I want to be very clear you couldn't put her like on tiktok and give her brain I wish I wish it worked like that and and listen to, to all the people listening who think I'm being mean about my mother and everything. I'm not. I have said all these things to her, okay.

Speaker 2

Because you told her doesn't mean, it's not me.

Speaker 1

God damn eight-year-old with me is what it feels like, anyway, but that was a good week and I recharged my batteries and I came back and we had a nice week this week. Fantastic, yeah, it was good.

Speaker 2

it was good, so we do you have like that dread of going back after a nice vacation or do you have like?

Speaker 1

that moment on that monday or tuesday, I'm just going like man, I should have never fucking left no, I'm always glad that I go on the vacation, so I guess it's a little bit of the first I I dread, I guess guess it's better for you.

Speaker 2

So when you leave, I mean your shit closes, so it's not like bad shit can happen while you're away, right, so that's nice. Yeah, you know, like with me we never stop.

Speaker 1

The cat's away, the mice are going to play.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's just like you come back and go. What the?

Speaker 1

hell what I run into managing how to make sure the team doesn't get financially affected by my desire to go on vacations and everything and usually I have my vacation list to them. You know, usually by september I'll have the next year all planned out. So, like my previous office manager, she don't every time like we'd be two weeks out for my vacation and she just come in goes. Well, these girls are just freaking out about what to do with you going on vacation and what they're going to do about their hours.

Speaker 1

I'm like, I'm like, I, I you guys have had this information like this is called planning. Right, that's, I'm, I'm going on this vacation october. You guys knew this a year ago right when I was this.

Speaker 1

None of this is a surprise yeah so we don't run into that problem so much. That's good, but no, it's become. The more and more I do things where I stay home, the more I realize I would like to stay home more. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I have a girl who I knew from residency. She was two years behind me and we have a family tree in our residence, so she's my grand little sister.

Speaker 2

I guess yeah.

Speaker 1

And she was telling me how she works only three days a week and I'm like oh, man, god, I would so love that. That's ideal Three days a week, 40 patients a day I would be the happiest man in the world.

Speaker 2

That sounds like a sweet spot. It is not going gonna happen that way for me.

Speaker 1

I'm gonna be working my ass off until the day I say I'm done and that's okay, I can live with that. But anyway, but no, so I come back and I'm like you know I I actually said I could have stood for another week yeah, you know down there and whatnot so that's great, we don't. I don't think we have. Virginia goes down to paulie's island with Max for the week after Father's Day Awesome. And I'll go down there that Wednesday night and kind of be there for Wednesday, thursday and I think.

Speaker 1

I don't know if everyone gets out Friday or Saturday Anyway. So I'll be down there until the weekend hits. That sounds amazing, that. And then nothing for a long time after that. All right we were. You know I talked about we were going to do New England in the fall, right, but this file this under how your kids' activities never fucking go away, even when they become adults. This annoys me because this is so Jacqueline informs me, because Jacqueline is starting med school at VCOM this fall.

Speaker 1

That's awesome fall in July, she's like. Well, the white coat ceremony is in mid-October.

Speaker 2

All right, it was going to fail right when we were going to do that was the New England trip.

Speaker 1

And I'm like great, this is the web school of Knoxville. All over again. Like someone is hacked into my phone. They looked at my calendar and they said oh, let's, let's fuck him up. I'm like, is Vcom affiliated with web?

Career Updates and Family News

Speaker 2

Because, like web, did that all the time. They probably are yeah. So we tried to figure out how to do this.

Speaker 1

And, like you know, on the front end of it is Max's birthday and. Max is turning 18. So it's like Virginia doesn't totally want to be away for that Right. But then somewhere along the line, halloween became an important holiday as well for the two of them and I'm like okay well, that fucks things up a little bit.

Speaker 2

Well, now you're into november and it's too late to see the leaves. The leaves are already turned, it's done, it's.

Speaker 1

It's snowing at that point, so then we started backing it up a little bit and we backed it up to like late September to go somewhere.

Speaker 2

That'll actually be pretty nice, though I would think yeah, except this time I just kind of made the call myself.

Speaker 1

I said, fuck it, we're going to Milan, oh, and Lake Como.

Speaker 2

All right then. I said fuck it and this September.

Speaker 1

This September, all right. As for the guy who said he wasn't going to make it to Europe this year, boom, boom. And this will be right. After my wife has come back from her hiking trip with her mother and sisters to the Dolomites up in Northern Italy, oh wow, so like she's gonna come home, be home for 10 days and go right back to Italy.

Speaker 2

Oh wow, yeah, that sounds horrible. Sucks to be her.

Speaker 1

Wish I had that work-life balance.

Speaker 2

My calendar is quite a bit shorter than that. I got Fort Lauderdale and then moving the kid to college.

Speaker 1

That's going to be fun, though I know, man, that's going to be a fun experience.

Speaker 2

I always have to go to the beach at least once.

Speaker 1

Sure, yeah, you got to do it I don't do it long.

Speaker 2

You know what I mean. The beach always is, it's not a. I can't sustain it.

Speaker 1

So when you go to the beach, what do you do while you're there?

Speaker 2

I body surf and drink my face off. Gotcha, I mean, that is it.

Speaker 1

I tan and read a book.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so I body, surf, surf, stay as active as I can and then have like that moment in time to where I center myself in the ocean, somehow, like I don't know what it is, you know, whether you know, I don't know how you pray or who you pray to have you do it, but I spend that time of a meditation yeah, of sitting in the ocean and very zen yeah, and that. Every year I gotta have that yeah, you know, and once I have that, it's like okay, I'm good heard chef.

Speaker 1

Yeah, um, we are going to do introduce a new format to two drinks and again I I kind of, you know, in listening to our podcast and and again, I'm still flummoxed by the one podcast that's like had 150 downloads.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know and I and like and like then the ones after that are like nine. Yeah, you know, I'm like I I don't know what we did. So what we're gonna do now, going forward, is we're literally gonna do this, our topic discussion, like it's a newspaper. We're gonna do nation, what's that then we'll do? Right, kids, look up what a newspaper is. They used to be cool, right, all the cool kids had them, got them delivered to their house every morning. The sunday paper was really oh man um.

Speaker 1

So we're gonna do nation local sports and life slash entertainment there we go, it's kind of how we're gonna. So in the nation, in the nation. So the bromance is over. Like did I? This comes as no surprise to me. No, I saw this happening the day it started.

Speaker 2

Yeah, especially when, like all the talk all of a sudden happened about him, elon, like really getting drugging it up, like which was weird to me and it's, you know, and I knew just too big of egos.

Speaker 1

Right, no, that's kind of where I was always at with it. You cannot have two big swinging dicks in the same room like that.

Speaker 2

And then, as much as Trump doesn't like the life of DC, he still lives kind of by it, and Elon wasn't having it and just the big beautiful bill or whatever. It just goes against everything that Elon was representing and it seems like he's not getting jack shit out of it. So you know it blew up.

Speaker 1

I found Trump to be remarkably subdued during this little fight.

Speaker 2

Yeah, which is really weird to me. And then some people are like, oh, they're just playing 4D chess and all that bullshit. No, they're not. I don't think so. I mean, I just I think it's just where they really. I mean, elon just popped off because he didn't get anything that he was wanting, right and and. But yeah, you're right, trump's been way subdued by it and I don't know if it's just due to the fact that he brought up epstein or what man I think that's the start.

Speaker 2

I think there's the and I guess it's like well, here's a guy that's got deeper pockets too.

Speaker 1

Technically. Yeah, well, they like who. Who's to say that he now can't primary? Who says he can't take a control of the republican party?

Speaker 2

even though he's not a citizen right, and so like in and now you know he's like we're gonna start a whole other political party. Yeah, that'll happen. I think it's gonna happen somehow in a in a way and what I mean by that is I mean just from everything that's been happening with, like, the press secretary for biden saying that she's no longer democrat I think you're probably just gonna see a bigger independent swing yeah you know it's not a new political party, but it's.

Speaker 2

I think it'll get. I think it'll get bigger right. This whole thing with everyone trying to get rich off of biden now that's after after the fact just makes me want to pee so what do you think of jake tapper's book I? I think it's awful. I think john stewart said it best. It's like um you knew about it, but you're in the media. That makes you keep a secret.

Speaker 1

You're complicit in all this. Yeah, that's bullshit.

Speaker 2

Especially when you're like you know had been fighting it. I mean, how dare you?

Speaker 1

say that he's having a decline. I'm interested in reading the book.

Speaker 2

Yeah, see, I am too, but I don't want to give the fucker my money.

Speaker 1

That's fair. Give the fucker my money, that's fair. You know it's just like damn, but I have listened. He is. He was on both pod save america and on real time, uh, this week, and so I've already kind of gotten my fill, but like I don't think there's anything for me, nothing that there's a revelation. Has this gone on for longer, like you're hearing, like there was concerns all the way back to 2016?

Speaker 1

yeah, about him and I'm like that's fair, I mean. But you know, for republicans to kind of clutch their pearls and and act aghast about all this, I just say reagan, second term, like really come on, guys like stop the performative shit, and I say that for both sides. No, it happens all the time. Tired of it, oh, it happens all the time.

Speaker 2

I'm just fucking tired of it. Oh, it happens all the time Like there is nobody in Washington right now. I don't think any of this is going to surprise anybody.

Speaker 1

I think it's just going to lend credence to the fact that he was really fucking old. We really need to rethink this when we're voting for people, this gerontocracy that exists definitely within the Democratic Party.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you know know you got to get that shit under control, and so I just don't what. What bothers me about all of it is I just don't see anyone like your next up-and-comer or somebody that which you, you really give a shit or want to even get behind anymore like, I like.

Speaker 1

There's no one there, like what?

Speaker 2

the fuck happened to shapiro? Yeah, where did that guy?

Speaker 1

go and then he's building a new house, I guess then, then.

Speaker 2

And then the guy from uh that was gonna be part of doge, uh, and on the republican side, um, really long. Last name starts with an r. Like he disappeared too yeah, I don't know you know what I'm talking about, right, I got some of these people. I thought they were going to be the, the next up-and-comer heavy hitters. Have just completely disappeared.

Speaker 1

Well, also, what you have going on with the Democratic National Committee is you have them voting on whether or not David Hogg is going to be kicked out as vice chair as the DNC, and I'm like, oh that's—.

Speaker 2

He's going to be kicked out. That's new to me.

Speaker 1

Yeah, no, because apparently he also has a pack that he's in charge of and that's a conflict of interest thing. Or they're using that as the excuse, because a lot of his rhetoric has been he wants to primary some of these old Democrat motherfuckers Right and get new blood in, because, yes, nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are the problem in the Democratic Party oh, big time, shut the fuck up, yeah you know, go away.

Speaker 1

I mean, I sometimes go toe-to-toe with my mother-in-law and we're kind of on the same side, sure you know. But she's one of those, like virginia, they both don't want to hear you criticize the party, the party is beyond reproach and I'm like no, that's not how it works no, I mean you go to anyone with any credence. John stewart, pod, save america. All these guys are going.

Speaker 2

No, we Right, we fucked up in a big ass way and that's what I've always said to you too is like man. We ought to be able to say when we step in bullshit and smell it.

Speaker 1

Right To say, hey, this is shit.

Speaker 2

Right, anyone got a stick yeah and no one yeah.

Speaker 1

There's too many of it to where it is is right, no matter what's going on it, you know. So I I really respect the podcasters and the newscasters who have just said yeah, no, these were problems and we fucked up and we really need to rethink what direction we're going. And I thought david hogg was going to be a part of that, and now, apparently, now they're ousting him and now they're speaking up because he has been a little more outspoken than he should be.

Speaker 1

The guy went to a fucking high school that was shot up, like anyone who's trying to put a target on his back fuck you, he's already had a target on his back.

Speaker 2

Okay, he survived that, yeah yeah, so I just I don't know none of it. I don't care, man, whenever we look at anything nationally as far as political again, I've said it time and time again on this on our little podcast it's crap, yeah, like it is total crap, like I can't even tell you the last good thing, left or right, that's come out of that fucking place so what version of the big, beautiful bill do you think we're gonna get?

Speaker 2

I, I do like the tax credits that are in there. I don't think it does anything for the lowest of the lows and I don't think anything will ever do that. But I think you know the no tax on tips is nice. No tax on overtime is incredible for them. You. You know, if you can do that for the middle class, I think it'll help business owners. Um, you could tell me wrong on that one, but I don't know. I haven't looked enough into it to even give that a logical answer. But anytime that taxes come about, I was like, okay, we're going to get tax credits here or there, but then the government's still going to get their money no matter what.

Speaker 1

So I don't know. So I watch the Medicaid side of all of this. You know, and I don't think, a bill is going to pass that has severe Medicaid cuts.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I think the Senate is going to stop that, and I think that's one that Trump is going to have to take in the chin.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you know what I think one way or another, and I told you this a while back too like none of the ICE stuff is going to look good, like it just doesn't look good, right. But we got to make a decision on what we're doing with illegal aliens one way or the other, like you know, because a part of it is just, you know, even hearing some of the Democratic Party of saying, hey, we're wanting this, we don't want to cut Medicaid because it helps them and that turns off so many people.

Speaker 2

It's like again one of those 80-20 things out there. Yes, exactly yeah right and so everyone, just kind of I don't want to say everyone, but it's just like well, why are we paying so much attention to somebody that isn't an American, when I am an American and I can't even get it right and I, sooner or later, something's got to give?

Speaker 1

no, I get that. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2

No, I respect that, it's um because it's no longer the people coming from east la right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1

Like the illegal immigrants.

Speaker 2

Now it's a whole other.

Speaker 1

It's, it's different now well, it's so, we talk about this, and so we have abrigo garcia, who has returned, or is returning, to the united states yeah, only just to be to right to go to prison right to go to prison more taxpayer money right right if that's even true, sure what was happening you know, but seems to be but well you know, let's go before a court and let the courts decide this.

Speaker 1

That's what due process is all about right you know, and so the, you know the, and then, and then I guess we have. The national guard has landed in los angeles yeah um, you know. So I'm very kind of curious to see our version of tiananmen square yeah, take place.

Speaker 2

Yeah, a lot of it happened yesterday. Did you see that one cat was just throwing? I mean, there's pallets of bricks for him.

Speaker 1

No, I didn't see any of that. I texted my daughter today to say, hey, are there tanks rolling down Ventura Freeway?

Speaker 2

I mean, I get protesting man, but when it? Turns. When that shit turns violent and stuff.

Speaker 1

Man, it's just scary, You're not going to win, especially also when you're getting into the.

Speaker 2

now you know I get the way that the way ice in this administration has handled the deportation thing has been not great, no um, and I knew it wasn't gonna look good, no matter how you did it and you know then when you get into the whole israel palestine area as well.

Speaker 1

That's, I feel, is also a no-win conflict. Um, depending on which side it has been. So I don't know, I don't have an answer for all of that. I'm just very curious to see if this is the. You know, everyone was worried about April 20th being the day he invokes the insurrection act, and or and and, an old act where he could then deploy federal troops to use them for deportation purposes. And so I guess we're going to see if that's going to be our reality and everything like that.

Speaker 2

My wild card for a national, you know, even outside of illegals in the Gaza. But I'm scared to death about Putin. Yeah Well, like when?

Speaker 1

that last little airstrike that ukraine did holy shit that that was a gangsta move.

Speaker 2

It was like yeah, no, they woke the hornet's nest been a big ass yeah, I mean when he, when he did that, and then it was like, yeah, okay, I'm up for a ceasefire now it's like bro, bro, that isn't how it works. Yeah, like God dog.

Speaker 1

What did he take out? Like a third or half of the Russian Air Force. Too damn much, Too damn much. And those guys, their infrastructure is such they can't replace that shit, I know.

Speaker 2

Like, that's it for them Right, and so that's what concerns me big time. So you're like thinking nukes is what you're thinking. I'm afraid that that dude's just not going to give a shit anymore. That's what I'm afraid. Yeah, there's only so many. Again, another ego with a big dick swing. That's another one.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but he's a conundrum too. I can't figure out Putin at all Me neither. That's why I say he's a wild card. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 2

You know what I mean like why, if you, I mean this thing's been going on for three years now. Sooner or later somebody's gonna say fine, my chips are in the middle of the table, fuck it. And I don't want to know what that looks like yeah at all. Yeah, mushroom clouds, mushroom clouds, war games 1984 or 86. That movie was great would you? Care to play another game? Let's play tic. How about tic-tac-toe? How about a nice game?

Speaker 1

of tic-tac-toe. That movie was mad. That was. I love that.

Speaker 2

It was awesome, fucking awesome it was way ahead of its time and whopper yeah war games and like tr Tron was like we weren't ready for it.

Speaker 1

We weren't no Mind-blowing so yeah. So that's kind of the nationwide stuff going on that I can think of. How are you loving the stock market these days?

Speaker 2

Well, I mean, it did what it did. I hate that it dropped so low, but now it's creeping back every day.

Speaker 1

I'm like come on, little guy, you can get back up to 45 000 come on, yeah, but then somebody's just gonna say something stupid I know that's what I don't like is all it takes is somebody saying something stupid and then market tanks yeah, and I, I it, just it used to be more resilient than that like it would be all. The only thing that any one person could say would be if it came from alan greenspan's mouth yeah, and, and I think that's because I think that's a detriment of just the information age.

Speaker 2

Right, it's just like everybody knows everything that's going on at any given moment, like all you have to do is, I mean, if you're curious about it, you can find it and and then it's just I. I think that sways. Yeah, too much, too fast. But uh, you know the tariff shit is ridiculous to me it's like can we just stop this? Shit. And you know what, if you're gonna fucking do it, fucking do it, but don't again. It goes back to you know. Just saying one thing.

Speaker 1

So like it's 25 today, 50 tomorrow, 150 psych yeah, I'm like oh, never mind, I was just kidding yeah, no, we've made a deal like what.

Speaker 2

It's again that I realized once we had a reality show president, come back into office. We were going to have a reality show life and that's what we're getting, you know that's about the best.

Speaker 1

That's a great description. I love that? No, I do, Because that is. It feels we are in a reality show.

Speaker 2

Yes, he wants the attention. So if anything that's going to happen, he's going to do something to sway it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know, and it's just constant drama and he wants to feel like he's a baller business deal maker and everything, and that's I can make these deals with China. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2

But what sucks is, you know, the Democratic Party with that just their hair. They're like Hades in that old Hercules cartoon. Right, like one moment it's blue hair and then Trump does something and they ignite.

Speaker 1

The Trump derangement syndrome? Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2

You know I hate using that term, but I mean more often than not, it's true. That's why they keep saying like, oh well, this must Trump things 4D chess, because now everyone's you know Tesla stock went up through the roof Friday Like come on, yeah, are we just going to do something? Just to see the opposite take place.

Speaker 1

It's all performative Right. It's terrible.

Speaker 2

It's just driving me nuts man Sorry.

Speaker 1

That's our nation.

Speaker 2

I know Again when we say every day, just you know.

Speaker 1

Be decent. Be decent to each other, be decent to each other.

Speaker 2

It's getting harder and harder to do that for everybody.

Speaker 1

Sure, do that for everybody. Sure, not for you and I, but I mean as a whole. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2

I don't go out anymore, I just stay in the house.

Speaker 1

Once I get to the end of the day, I come home and I fucking stay in the house. I don't want to go out and do anything. If I can help it yeah uh, so, speaking of going out of the house, like what, what have you? Have you like, checked out anything locally going on?

Speaker 2

or coolest thing I've done locally is gone. I'm wearing the t-shirt right now okay, the knoxville smokies park, nice. How is that fucking phenomenal really yeah, uh, what's this guy's name? Oh my gosh, it's on the tip of my tongue. He's always. He's, uh, the guy that built it randy boyd yes, thank you fucking unbelievable job, nice.

Speaker 2

I can't wait to see what it does, expanding wise right. I mean from where it was at, like I remember the day that you don't cross that little, you don't cross that little bridge, uh, in knoxville, unless you were looking for trouble and for them to put that stadium right smack dab in it and have the what I feel like is gonna just explode downtown.

Speaker 1

Just unreal well, can we agree? They've kind of gentrified that whole area a little bit, like I mean they've from the old city area and kind of moving northward, you know to um, north broadway area and then forth and gill and all of that, like they've. They've kind of gentrified the shit out of it. Yeah, you know. I mean, what are you gonna do, though, like I mean, for the people that protest against that, I'm like, yeah, but they're just trying to make it look nicer yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

So what's what's wrong with that? You know exactly. You know what's your answer. Just let it be the way that it was right so I'm I'm sorry and I'm sorry.

Speaker 1

Your property taxes are gonna go up, yeah, but no I, I just all of it. So what's the traffic like?

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Speaker 2

the traffic is not bad really. Yeah, I don't think I mean again, it's a minor league ballpark, like if it was major leagues, and you're pumping in 20 to 30 000 people into that stadium every night I'd be like neiland yeah, yeah, exactly so.

Speaker 2

I mean, like when it's game day, like that downtown knoxville is a fucking mess because you got well over a hundred thousand people just swarming in, but just from where I mean you could, you could park at that little, like you're going to eat at stir or southern grit. You can park in that little and walk and then they have other parking. I mean it, but it's just. It's really nice. I've been to two games now my company's got tickets, season tickets, whatever that I've been able to take advantage of it. But I mean just to get out and be in something that you're like I'm, I can't believe I'm in knoxville here, like this is.

Speaker 1

This is new this is no like it's. Finally knoxville gets to have nice things yes, exactly like that and you know, you know in my 24-year history of living here that how you know how they fuck away some things. But like what they have done over the last decade has been impressive, like the development along the South Knoxville side of the river.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 1

And what they're doing with the Island Home area, yeah, and all of that, yeah, somehow like the city. I mean they've got their act together. And what they're doing with the Island Home area and all of that, yeah, somehow like the city. I mean they've got their act together.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I've always felt Knoxville is landlocked. Yes, and they are, but usually with that landlocked it's like, well, okay, you go over Henley Street Bridge, fuck it. Or if you go over this bridge, I don't give a shit anymore. I mean, it's really trying to expand and make things nice. Whether it's north, south, east or west Knoxville, they're really doing a big plug for south Knoxville?

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's great. Yeah, I haven't I. Just I used to care about south Knoxville because I for a year I had a satellite office in Seymour, yeah, so like I was always watching what was going on there and everything. But I just don't any like. But like I don't. I mean, you're lucky if you get me driving past the mall these days you know, driving east of them I get, and it's funny. I used to make fun of people who lived in farragut because it'd be like you know, if they that was the cutoff.

Speaker 1

If you were asking them to go past the pel.

Speaker 2

If you're on kingston pike, go under the pelissippi, they'd be, like I guess okay, fine okay yeah, no, my church is there.

Speaker 1

I'll fine, I'll do it yeah I don't go to concord bat, but just I go to cokesbury okay, I gotta go under the fucking bridge. I get it, but then you get. It's like wait, you want me to go east of the mall?

Speaker 2

yeah, wait a minute fucking kidding me.

Speaker 1

Are you out of your goddamn?

Speaker 2

mind there's not enough time in the day. No right, so no, but virginia's kind of that too.

Speaker 1

She gets very ragey about traffic and everything.

Speaker 2

Traffic, yeah, traffic's a whole other thing, but what they're doing everywhere yeah. Even the Kennedy, just the Kennedy itself, the restaurant.

Speaker 1

Yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 2

Just what an upgrade. Oh, seriously, yeah, yeah. And everything that everybody is touching and doing, things. You can tell the money's being put in and you can tell it's being doing it's. It's done with common sense this time it feels like I agree with you. You know there may only be two to three families doing it, but I don't give a shit yeah like, whatever it takes, yeah, I don't care um how about down in maryville, it's just still growing I mean nothing, nothing's new has come up and about.

Speaker 2

I mean the Holiday Inn's still going up. Oh, that's, I am we're about to get a chop house out there. That's right, man yeah.

Speaker 1

That's going to be hot. Yeah, that's going to be huge, yeah absolutely.

Speaker 2

I mean everything around the airport right now.

Speaker 1

I mean mean and supposedly tyson mcgee's the fastest growing airport in the country I am curious as to what their expansion shit is going to do over like that's overdue for parking, because parking is a disaster, yeah I mean, that's the first thing they're doing is building a that's extending the parking so do you think we'll get a carrier?

Speaker 2

I don't see how I don't either. We're always going to be that airport. Yeah you gotta go.

Speaker 1

You can't do anything non-stop except chicago.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I just I don't see how, but I mean I think we're getting fucking close to it, yeah, so I you know knoxville's just getting just huge man, I mean more and more people that come and figured out that tennessee's taxes are fucking great yeah, you know I mean in the house that you can get for four to five hundred thousand compared to you know it just blows my mind. So people, more and more, are coming into the state yeah you know the apartments that overlook the covenant stadium, covenant park yeah tell me how you can afford this thing.

Speaker 2

But one bedroom, one bath, not even just barely over a thousand square foot, it's going to three to four thousand dollars good god and they're full, jesus, how do you?

Speaker 1

how can you afford that? And that's the thing I've always wanted. What are you doing? You know both virginia and I. When we've driven around farragut and when you know my previous, my previous relationship before her, we would drive like what do all these people do that they can afford to live in these houses?

Speaker 2

no idea, like I have no idea, yeah, you know, I mean, I know, I mean I just I don't know, I, I really don't. I mean not everyone's a I you know, I mean I guess they're having a lot of side hustles or something or not eating. Maybe you're right, yeah you know, or it's just an empty apartment.

Speaker 2

But I I mean shit, yeah, three grand a month, fuck damn like that's less that's los angeles rent exactly, and that's what the thing is, though people are used to paying that I think that's what my daughter's and my daughter's got a nice apartment in in sherman oaks I would hope so, but it's that much, but it's yeah, I guess it's just under three and it's a two, it's a two-person deal and that is a huge mortgage in my eyes, let alone just fucking.

Speaker 1

It's more than what my mortgage and it's a two-person deal. I mean that is a huge mortgage in my eyes, let alone just fucking. It's more than what my mortgage is.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's way more than my mortgage. Yeah, way more, way more.

Speaker 1

So I don't know how they do it but more power to them. Been to any good restaurants.

Speaker 2

No, I tell you the. Did I tell you about my trip to Macklemore? No, tell you the. Did I tell you about my trip to macklemore? No, okay, macklemore I like is in thrift shop macklemore no, I didn't take days off to go to the thrift shop no, I'm talking like the guy who did the hit song thrift shop.

Speaker 1

Yeah, this was me doing a pure airheaded moment. You know, you're like the rapper.

Speaker 2

No. So right before I took my new job, I wanted to just do something for myself. So I took a couple days off and I wanted to go play golf and CJ, you know, she's just along for the ride. But I was like man, I don't want to go far. But anyway, I just started Googling and messing around and so there's a golf course called Macklemore that is on top of lookout mountain. Oh wow, that must be neat, yeah, and it's essentially in Georgia. And so when I was looking at his website, it said it's the third highest rated golf course in Georgia. And I went well, I know what number one is being the masters, so I think I'm going to be good with this. And, buddy, it did not disappoint. And when you said restaurant, you know, not only was the golf course beautiful, 18th hole was just looking over, I mean basically a cliff of lookout mountain.

Speaker 1

It was.

Speaker 2

it was stunning. It was the prettiest golf course I've ever been on. Um, it was stunning. It was the prettiest golf course I've ever been on. But, man, they made their restaurant that was on site because it's a resort, a golf resort. They had a fisherman's stew. Jesus, dude, wow, I would have. I'd punch my dad right in the throat for another bite. It was so damn good, oh man but yeah, no, that that's been like the last like real restaurant experience I've had. It was just like oh man, just something new.

Speaker 2

You know um but nothing. Nothing here locally, that's just um nothing new. Anyway, you know, I'm still, I've got my faves in town and right, yeah, still there.

Speaker 1

We don't know, we just don't go out anymore, it's too expensive. It's too Fuck. The rent is still too damn high. Yes.

Speaker 2

I'm not going to lie. We went to Walnut Kitchen not too long ago and I love the place.

Speaker 1

Like hands down. It's fantastic, one of the best places in the world.

Speaker 2

Yeah, if you have a chance to go to walnut kitchen, fucking go, yeah, but obviously I'm a booze hound and cj's right behind me, you know. So that's a lot of the how do you mean? So I mean that was a lot of the bill. You know, you get a nice bottle of wine. I mean we got a bottle of camas and you know it's just we were kind of doing it up, but I mean it was well over three hundred dollars yeah and I'm going you know, and this was like tuesday, right?

Speaker 1

yeah, no, I totally get that. Just no reason like I just don't want to cook, let's just go out, right? Yes, and now you have to think twice on that yes absolutely it's crazy to me.

Speaker 1

I'm trying to think where v and I went just the other day. We went to, where did we go for lunch? Um, our, our usual haunts here is if we're into mexican, we'll either go to paria over in the renaissance yeah deep farragut, or we'll go to el mezcal, um in farragut and um, and then for me though, though, 35 North.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, I need to go back. The one place I haven't gone yet that I'm shocked, but the new Kazzy's location in Bearden.

Speaker 1

There you go. We just had lunch at Kazzy's, that's what it was.

Speaker 2

We had lunch at Kazzy's yesterday. Yes, in North Shore.

Speaker 1

And we saw that there was a Bearden location. We're like what, wait, wait, wait, wait. When did that happen?

Speaker 2

yeah, yeah, over the winter, yeah nice. Yeah, well, kazzy's is, I don't know where exactly in beard in my head it's the old naples oh yeah that's in my head like, just like the address, and I could be dead ass wrong it's on gangston pike yeah, yeah, but down, yeah, right there where the old naples is yeah, that was a fucking shocker. When that place went down, oh, that was our place.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of that wine vault, cask vault, yeah see, that was our seat like I when I heard they were going out of business, I I seriously said I wonder if there's a way I could buy that booth yeah from yeah no, I hear you and get that.

Speaker 2

I think people felt that way with Naples and felt that way with Enrigas.

Speaker 1

And then Orangery too, oh yeah, that whole little area that's already now like two to three different restaurants now.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I knew the owner of the Orangery. His twin brother is actually my financial planner.

Speaker 2

Oh, okay, his twin brother is actually my financial planner.

Speaker 1

Oh, okay, there you go, so I got to know him through a friend of my ex-girlfriend. But he's a good guy yeah Dan Kiger he's a good guy.

Speaker 2

I always thought that Orangery just never did anything to keep up with the times. I guess I would agree it was just like we are who we are. I think the last time I was there is when David got married.

Speaker 1

Okay, he had his wedding reception there. There you go. The last time I was there, yeah, those were just some fucking staples of K-Town.

Speaker 2

Yeah right, and it's in there. Nope, right Now they're gone and now it's kind of like the people that own Kefi and the vault and you know, like I said earlier, there's three to four families that take over Down in Maryville and I don't care, I can do it. Keep on, keeping on, man, keep on keeping on.

Speaker 1

So, no, I'm excited for when that rooftop bar in Maryville is going to go in.

Speaker 2

It's happening fast.

Speaker 1

Because I see myself being in a coma after my Wednesdays down in Maryville. I see it being an ugly scene. I see it made a couple DUIs.

Speaker 2

you know, Gonna have to get friendly with Jim Barong, spend some tickets at the policeman ball, exactly yeah, that, what is it?

Speaker 1

Is it the Thanksgiving or Christmas breakfast thing that he?

Speaker 2

hosts and whatnot. Pancake breakfasts is all along. I have never gone.

Speaker 1

I get invited every year and I've never gone.

Speaker 2

You need to start, man, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

No, actually, there's an event on the 20th at the Blunt Partnership building and they call it their kickoff to the summer, but it's also the same weekend that the Big Barbecue Bash takes place yeah the big barbecue bash was the legacy project of my leadership, blunt class, yeah, so that we've been doing that since 2007 awesome like it and we are when they tell us about doing a legacy project like I think we redefined it in that, like it is a recurrent thing every year and it has escalated every year.

Speaker 1

I mean, I remember it took us quite a few years before we were recognized by the Kansas City Barbecue Association as being a legitimate barbecue competition.

Speaker 2

Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1

And so that's.

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Speaker 2

Those are those types of things, man. Once it gets going and established, it just boom. You just got to keep stoking the fire, you got to keep the fire going and it's now.

Speaker 1

It has a life of its own. It benefits Helen Ross McNabb oh cool which my ex-girlfriend works for, and I know a lot of other people that work there, and it's for mental health and substance issues. I stand behind it 100%.

Speaker 2

Awesome. I believe in their mission.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the former CEO is in my class.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's what it's all about. Man, help out where you can.

Speaker 1

Exactly Anyway. So I go to that event just to kind of be seen.

Speaker 2

I did this.

Speaker 1

It's kind of like this is my. I'm Bruce Wayne at the beginning of Dark Knight Rises. You haven't seen me for like seven years and here I oh, he still exists, you know. Of course, now I drive up in the BMW convertible with the license plate that says EBS on it. You know, kind of like a dick.

Speaker 2

You're not wrong with it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and it's sad because Virginia doesn't go because she's always at Pauly. It always takes place the first weekend she leaves for Pauly's. Oh, so like, yeah, no, she never gets to go. I got a lot of people that want to meet her. Yeah, yeah, so that's how it is. That is how it is, but that's the local scene, but I don't know what else is going on.

Speaker 2

too much around here I'm sure there is had our heads down yeah, I would, I would agree it's just because things are expensive.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, I call it spensive. That's that's what I tell virginia. I go, dude, we can't go there, it's expensive. Yeah, like I, I saw in my car, the I had this uh punch card for seasons, you know we've all gone there seasons over in turkey creek. We wholly endorse seasons.

Speaker 2

Yeah, uh, innovative restaurant um yeah, I went there just a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 1

oh, it's been a while since I've been there and it's just like because we did that before.

Speaker 2

Mission Impossible Because it's too expensive. It adds up quick. Man All adds up quick.

Speaker 1

You're right, it's crazy, so you know, we went to Kazzy's for lunch and it was like I had a club sandwich and she had a. She had a. She had like I forget what her sandwich was. Yeah that. And I had a beer and she's not drinking right now.

Speaker 2

Yeah that helps your bill.

Speaker 1

Boy, let me tell you, like when we've done dry months and dry quarters, yeah, the dinner bills are not so expensive, right, yeah, but you get the alcohol back in there. That just fucks everything up.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1

Because she finds the most expensive drinks in the world. And then, like a douche, I'm like, oh, we'll have an Oban 14. And that's like you know that's like the GNP of a small third world nation, or $100 a pour.

Speaker 1

Right, exactly, you know. Yeah, right so, but no, so we just know it's not what we do anymore. Yeah, no, I get it. You know like I was kind of when she said let's go to kazzy's. I'm like, yeah, let's go to kazzy's. I've been to kazzy's, you know. I guess last time I would have gone was with like you and yeah jimmy and melissa, yeah, you know it's been a while. Yeah, um so, anyway. So what's going on? The world of sports? Man, baseball, baseball, lots of baseball going on.

Speaker 2

Lots of baseball going on. Yeah, vols are probably. I don't know what time it is, but they played Arkansas at 3. And if they don't win today, they're done. They're in the super regional against they lost yesterday. But that's about it for baseball. My Braves suck. That's about all I got.

Speaker 1

I don't follow a baseball team anymore.

Speaker 2

I always love my braves and the ball baseball has just been always fun. But I knew this year yeah with them winning the natty last year. It's like whatever I'm playing with house money, so whatever happens, happens but, but yeah, braves are god awful and the nba finals. I I just I can't get behind the nba as much as I used to yeah, I haven't been following that, really at all like I game tuesday night and I'll watch a little bit of it after duke lost the in the final four.

Speaker 1

I, that was it.

Speaker 1

I checked out and, like you're done, till fall for sports right done until well, I'm done until duke's football season kicks off, but, but yeah, but but I mean, as far as the basketball team goes, I'm like okay you guys are dead to me. Yep, you didn't bring home. This was the team that should have brought home a title, should have and, and, and they didn't yeah, and uh, yeah, they but we ranted about that, I ranted about that last last episode, so we won't. There's no but it's really funny because it's like I just block it all out now.

Speaker 2

It's like con who yeah, yeah, who is it? Why is his name con?

Speaker 1

you know like is in kirk going. You know I mean right, and we both went there. You have to, you have to.

Speaker 2

There is no way that you've seen Star Trek. Was it two or three?

Speaker 1

Star Trek II Wrath of Khan.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you can't watch Star Trek II, and not whenever you hear Khan, go Khan. It's like in my brother used to call me Retarto Montalban. Oh really, instead of Ricardo, let me tell you what Ricardo Montalban was a badass. He was a badass in that movie.

Speaker 1

My program director for my ortho program reminds me a little of him, but he's Turkish. Okay, but he has that kind of that debonair quality about him and everything that's about the kindest thing I can say about my program director. I don't know if I did. Did I talk at all about going to the aao last a little bit any of the last episodes, with the, with, with, uh meeting, just reconnecting with a lot of friends from from uh dental school and yeah, no.

Speaker 1

But so part of that was at we had at the alumni reception we had. It was to acknowledge his retirement from the department oh and everything.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I don't think you went into that, but there's a song from the, from the play chorus line, where this girl is talking about she's taking these theater classes and this theater professor is writing her ass like I feel nothing from you, I feel nothing from you, yeah. And so at the very end she gets all oppositionally defiant. She's like, well, this class is nothing, you're nothing and I'm gonna go find my way and everything like that. And it ends. The song ends with her saying, oh, I found out that he died and I felt nothing. And that's kind of how I feel about him and I think the the biggest thing is that what should have been noticed is that there was a classmate of mine from dental school who we didn't get along at all in dental school.

Speaker 1

I probably talked about this also before yeah, but we this is the first time I really, really talked to him in depth, yeah, since dental school so 30 years you're a cool guy, 30 years, and we've talked on the phone since then like, I'm like okay, all right, this is this. I mean it'd be good to stay in touch with him and everything like that, because there's no competition now. We're all just trying to get the fucking retirement, you know, with our sanities intact, right and um. But he also had issues with this program director and so I'm sure, like is that like?

Speaker 1

there are times I look over and I'd see him looking over at the two of us talking everything. I'm sure I'm like I'm thinking to myself. I am sure he is thinking what the fuck are jeff and jim doing up allied together for the first time that I've?

Speaker 2

ever seen. You know, he's like robert downey jr. Exactly oppenheimer right. Exactly what's going on there. What is that?

Speaker 1

what the fuck, is that going? On, so y'all are conspiring, so yeah, no, I, I felt nothing about his retirement and I said a couple other friends. I wonder if this means like now we can go to alumni reunions and like you just it'll be a lot more chill and and we can probably deal with that. I hope yeah, so you never can tell, but um, I, there was a point to this with uh us being in sports, but oh, con we're talking about, con canipple there we go right anyway.

Speaker 1

Um, this is how we get sidetracked. We try to stick to a format, but we it's the two drinks. And again, I'm actually on my third, to be honest, by the way. What are we drinking?

Speaker 2

oh, my, my go-to, yeah, your go-to.

Speaker 1

The makers, makers, mark man yeah, you're, you're, you're a slut for my makers it is, it's good stuff. There you go I am drinking glenn live at 14. I broke this bottle open today for this beautiful looking bottle. It is a yeah, you're a slut for my makers. It is, it's good stuff. There you go. I am drinking Glenlivet 14.

Speaker 2

I broke this bottle open today for this it's a beautiful looking bottle, right there it is a beautiful looking bottle. I'm telling you that much. It is quite the amber color.

Speaker 1

It's got that lovely amber color and a single malt. Let me see I can't read shit anymore.

Speaker 2

My eyes are oh man, I look here I'm, now that I'm wearing readers. Now I feel like I feel like I went from being somewhat young to I need a nursing home. No right, and it's it's kind of like.

Speaker 1

It's kind of like the, the cognitive decline that comes with aging yeah is like it happens quickly like like I'm like okay, I've gone from like 1.0 to 1.5 now, like in a week yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I just it bothers me, like, if I'm speaking of restaurants, if I go to a restaurant without my readers, again I've made the jokes I don't know what the hell I'm tipping you like it's either good or I don't know if it's good or bad you don't use your phone.

Speaker 1

You don't use your phone to zoom in with the photo no, I will not be that dude see, I am, I have no, I have no pride. I have no pride in this pride. Next weekend I'll be like man. That was a good idea. That's what he's talking about.

Speaker 2

Oh, look at that, I agreed.

Speaker 1

Oh my goodness. So yeah, we don't have a lot going on in sports, I guess.

Speaker 2

No, yeah, it's just an odd time of year, it really is, so I saw Thunderbolts yesterday.

Speaker 1

Yeah, awesome stuff, man, it was pretty fucking good. David Arbor is unbelievable at everything he does. He really is Okay. So here's a fun fact. I don't know if you know this. Do you know that he was in Brokeback Mountain? No, that's a loaded question, right? I guess so, because it means you've seen Brokeback Mountain or not. I've watched Brokeback Mountain a few times. I have not seen it. First of all, it's a fantastic movie.

Speaker 2

I'm sure it is Like get past, you know, get past the gay stuff.

Speaker 1

It's a beautiful and I'm amazed at the cast that they put together for this. Like you know, you got Anne Hathaway in it, you've got, but David Harbour okay, I didn't.

Speaker 2

Oh, he plays the crocodile guy right, nope, no, he's at the dinner table with the, the head of it, uh, with viola davis, yeah, he's at the table just sitting there like are you sure about this? Are you talking? You know, like he's been in so many things where he's, like this fbi agent, cleanly shaven. I love it, you don't even know it.

Speaker 1

I love it when an actor who's kind of just been plugging away, if it rolls for and all of a sudden bam bam, the spark ignites and like all of a sudden their career takes off and like his shit was stranger things.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

And now this and. I'm just, I just I love that when it happens and what's so cool about him, though?

Speaker 2

he's not pigeon toed.

Speaker 1

No.

Speaker 2

You know like they're very easily. He's just always Hopper the rest of his life, but it's not. He's done.

Speaker 1

I mean no, he does this thing where he is the Red Guardian and we are going to have the Westchester.

Speaker 2

Thunderbolts.

Speaker 1

He showed up driving that damn limo, Right exactly.

Speaker 2

Tore me up, man so yeah.

Speaker 1

So for those of you who are not aware or have been living under a rock, you know they introduce all these ancillary characters to the marvel cinematic universe and you're like, well, what kind of fucking becomes of these people? And so, yeah, I always had no doubt that yelena was going to have a consistent role because she would just.

Speaker 1

She's just awesome, charming as shit in black widow and even funny as fucking hawkeye yeah um, but like so when they introduce ghost in ant-man and the Wasp we're like okay, so where are we going to go with that?

Speaker 2

And US Agent in you know, Winter Soldier and the Falcon and the Winter.

Speaker 1

Soldier, and so I again, I and Dave and I talked about all this before we started recording, but I was surprised that Kate Bishop was not in it.

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Speaker 2

Yep, I am too. I thought they were just going to kind of pick up the side characters and make a suicide squad out of them. I guess you had to have some sort of villainy in you, I guess, yeah, but Bob was awesome. Bob was fucking awesome, man.

Speaker 1

That was just like oh, my God.

Speaker 2

And when he went full, bob, yeah, I was like oh shit, like I'm sitting here thinking, the D&D guy in me came and gave me, oh wow, sphere of Annihilation.

Speaker 1

That's what this is, you know.

Speaker 2

What's so funny is that dude played Bob in the last Top Gun movie too. That was his.

Speaker 1

Really. Yeah, it was Bob. I was kind of wondering where I'd seen him before. Yeah, Bob.

Speaker 2

Like what's your called name, Bob? Yeah, so are you stoked for fantastic four? Yes, I am too. Yeah, like I like I kind of hope. Please don't suck. Please don't suck, get it right and listen.

Speaker 1

I don't have a lot of problems with the, the two, the first two fantastic four movies that came out 20 years ago. Yeah, no, those are awesome. No, those are.

Speaker 2

I had no, like everyone, the last no the one they did.

Speaker 1

No, they fucked that up I haven't even seen it, but I like the reviews, just like.

Speaker 2

Okay, I'm never gonna watch this, yeah, yeah it terrible, it was really bad, yeah, but like, like, um, what's his name?

Speaker 1

michael chokas, playing the thing in those first two movies. It's fucking awesome, it's charming, you know? Yeah, very much so yeah jessica alba.

Speaker 2

Banter between captain america and him. Yeah, uh, chris, ev right. No, it was awesome.

Speaker 1

That would be Johnny Storm, yeah, johnny Storm, right, yeah. And then he shows up in Deadpool 3. Oh my God, like that.

Speaker 2

Just when that happened, I was like I was like, oh my God, he's going to say it. My head exploded. He's going to say it. I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 1

So no, it's. It was a good movie. I like to think of it as Jason Bourne meets the Inception. A little bit, and I'm excited for what Fantastic Four Is going to bring.

Speaker 2

I feel like Marvel is Marvel again.

Speaker 1

I feel like they kind of got their shit together After fucking around for a little bit.

Speaker 2

I think they just felt like they could just print money, just throw anything out there. Yeah, no matter what it looks like what it sounds like yeah, just yeah, we're gonna be good, I think with the tv shows they were the only one that to me that was just awesome was the, the hawkeye one and moon knight. See now I.

Speaker 1

I was a fan of wandavision. I was okay. Yeah, I loved wandavision because I felt that wandavision was the overarching of WandaVision.

Speaker 2

I was Okay, yeah, sorry, I forgot about WandaVision. I loved WandaVision because I felt that WandaVision was awesome.

Speaker 1

The overarching theme of WandaVision was grief.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, no, wandavision was awesome. I'm sorry I forgot about that one.

Speaker 1

And then Falcon and Winter Soldier. Sorry, that was okay, you know, it didn't really keep me focused um loki, of course, like I think when you think about the two loki series are kind of the epicenter of like the whole movement going forward with the tva and because you know, without loki you don't have deadpool 3 yep, that's true, and um well now that we talk about it.

Speaker 2

You know they've done a lot of good stuff. It just I don't know. It just doesn't.

Speaker 1

It took a while no, it's not like the first. You know what 10 years of of the infinity saga? Yeah, you know what 10 years of the Infinity Saga?

Speaker 2

Yeah, you know, and that's the tough thing of to me, it was perfection, so it's tough to follow perfection. Yeah, it was perfection.

Speaker 1

Now. So what I was talking to my son about today, because he's gone on about it forever like when are they going to bring in Galactus as the villain? Here he comes, and here he comes. I'm like are you psyched, dude? Because he's apparently going to come in this movie. You know, you got the silver server coming, and doesn't you know? And so I'm kind of excited to see where in a way that I normally wouldn't get excited about a Fantastic Four movie Right.

Speaker 2

You know, yeah, I think the casting's done very well.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the guy from the bear being, yeah, no, playing the thing. I think it's awesome, yeah, yeah. That works so, and I'll tell you what friends, if you want to see, I'm blanking on the actor's name right now, but he plays cousin in the bear.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, he's just awesome.

Speaker 1

If you want to see some old school shit, watch the movie Mona Lisa, smile, smile, oh god, he's in that. Wow, he plays jennifer goodwin's boyfriend. Okay, you know. And then watch the hbo miniseries on john adams that stars paul giamatti.

Speaker 2

He plays john quincy adams whoa, yeah, he's another one like david arbor. Yeah, you know what? I mean, yeah, he has scratched, and clawed and been awesome at every little thing. Now got his moment and then boom, and he's in the marvel cinematic.

Speaker 1

You know, I guess all roads lead to the marvel cinematic universe. It's when you know you make it, it's yeah, yeah or if star wars yes, you know, have you watched andor season two?

Speaker 2

no, and I'm mad at myself for it so I've just I'm one episode in soon.

Speaker 1

I'm one episode. I re-watched the first season of it.

Speaker 2

I need to do that as well, yeah you do?

Speaker 1

You to reacquaint yourself because, like, everyone's going on about how fucking great it is. And I'm like well, let's be honest, Rogue One, for my money, is the best Star Wars movie out there.

Speaker 2

It's top shelf, it's pretty much so. Top shelf, it's just that's good.

Speaker 1

So, speaking of Rogue One, have you, have you seen the meme where that end scene in Rogue One where Darth Vader shows up? He's in the dark, his lightsaber goes on and they sync that to.

Speaker 2

Lindsey, buckingham's Holiday Road from National Lampoon's Vacation.

Speaker 1

Holiday Road.

Speaker 2

I found out long ago. That's hilarious, I will go find it. Really Go find it. That's hilarious, I will go find it Really Go find it.

Speaker 1

It's fucking funny but it works.

Speaker 2

That's the sad thing. I know the one that works for me. I don't even know what movie it is. It looks like something out of Oliver Twist man, but all these kids just come out of the door dancing. But it's to rob zombies, okay.

Speaker 1

You know, oh yeah, I kids that just come out of the door dancing, but it's to rob zombie, okay, you know?

Speaker 2

oh yeah, my god, man it is. It is the funniest thing. Every now and again it'll pop up on my timeline and I have to just sit there and watch it yeah, it's too good.

Speaker 1

Yeah, oh, my goodness last thing about entertainment.

Speaker 2

We talked about thunderbolts, but I saw the mission impossible, right? Yes, tom cruise is just fucking badass like yeah he's the last of this. Look those epic epic actors yeah like I don't. If I die, I die like he's the last. Yeah, you know one.

Speaker 1

I don't think anyone's gonna insure any of this shit anymore or whatever, but although they did say that, that Florence Pugh did that, opening yeah, she did that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, well, she did that. I mean I could be wrong, but like he spent in in this movie, it was over 20 minutes of a submarine scene in this mission impossible movie that I. I was in a full theater and you, you, if I'm sorry if you had to fart yeah, I was gonna say like because no one made a damn.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean, this was, this was some easter sunday shit man. Like no one. Everyone was afraid to move right, it was that intense. Just watching it, it was just incredible. I I really appreciate that stuff. I call them the popcorn movies, you know, it's just like it was incredible man.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the guy's amazing, he's what 62 63? I don't know, but yeah, you're right now that I think about it.

Speaker 2

I mean, he's older than me, yeah so I mean just incredible how you can go from risky business, right, yes, yeah, well, yeah, no I mean Give him an Oscar by God.

Speaker 1

I would agree.

Speaker 2

Just give him one. He should have had an Oscar for Jerry Maguire, because I still think that's yeah and Born on the Fourth of July, yeah those are the two roles as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 1

He really hit those out of the park.

Speaker 2

But you know, tropic Thunder.

Speaker 1

Okay. The tropic thunder okay. I just saw strack sent me yesterday a clip from tropic thunder that that it's talking about how it's. It's a dialogue between ben stiller and robert downey jr and it's about like how he, ben stiller, lost his way as an actor because he went too far into that retarded character that he played and we're gonna say retarded, yeah right you went too far yeah, you went, you went full retard you went full retard.

Speaker 1

No, you don't do that. And I'm sitting the whole time watching robert downey jr and I'm like, no, you cannot malign this performance for the black face you just can't, because it is truly he earned. He's making fun of it he got oscar nommed for that and like it's yes, it is, it is a like you forget. That's the level of acting robert downey jr brings to the table yes, and you know the end of the movie. He's a blonde-haired blue eye exactly from new zealand right exactly just the opening sequences of the previews of their other movies.

Speaker 2

Right like he's like having this like forbidden love with Tobey Maguire as a monk.

Speaker 1

Yeah, sean Penn in I Am Sam. He went full on retard. Didn't hear anything about that movie. Forrest Gump didn't do full on retard, won all the Oscars, just friggin awesome and I'm sorry if anyone's offended by the voice that I'm doing or anything like that, but it's just how it was. It's just fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2

I even just laugh about when that director just like, alright, let's go, and then it steps on a landmine and blows up and they're just all like okay, we get it. Ha ha yeah.

Speaker 1

Did I talk about the fact that I'd watched Lost for the ninth time through? No, I did. Why? Because I sometimes you got to go back to the island, okay, and well, no, nine times.

Speaker 1

Nine times. We've talked about it before because we did just that Nine times? No, because there was also a documentary that came out called Getting Lost, and so in this they interview most of the people involved. The only people I don't think the primary players that weren't involved were Matthew Fox and Dominic Moynihan. Okay, primary players that weren't involved were matthew fox and dominic monahan. Okay and um, but in that documentary they talk about this podcast called the transmission. That was like when podcasts were totally right in their embryonic stage, like this guy everyone would be like yeah this guy and his wife, like they did it.

Speaker 1

They lived in Hawaii, they were right there near the sets, like they kind of had full, and he had like some sort of PR job or something like that which show up on news channels and like give lost reviews, and so he's got this voice where he talks like this yes, well, of course we're going to go out like this. He's got this very weird, but it works it really works.

Speaker 1

So I said really works, yeah. So I said, okay, I'm gonna listen to this podcast and everything, and it's really quite good. Now the sad thing is is that his wife, who co-hosts this with him, she passed away from cancer in 2021, so it's kind of eerie listening to her, but she's got great delivery as well. So really I'm kind of like going back to the island for the 10th time. Okay, except through a podcast. So jeffrey and I were listening to it.

Speaker 2

Why do you like it so much?

Speaker 1

Oh, I think it's about the character arcs and just that they're all flawed people and some of them, I feel, still remain flawed. You know, there's no redemption for them. I think the character of Ben Michael Emerson's character I'm surprised at how much blunt force, head trauma he sustains in the course of that series and does not end up going full-on retard. I mean nobody could. I mean really right. Every every time I've watched it since, like the second or third season, I'm like god he takes a lot of head blows, like how does a guy survive?

Speaker 2

lord of the, flies all over you.

Speaker 1

Well, and they talk about Lord of the Flies in the series as well. But anyway, yeah, so that's what I've been listening Podcasts, I've been listening to that. I listen to the Midas Touch. I started listening to Jon Stewart's the Weekly Review with Jon Stewart. I'm ready for him to run for president.

Speaker 2

I tell you.

Speaker 1

I think that's one that I think everyone could get behind.

Speaker 2

Buddy, he's got my vote right now, yeah.

Speaker 1

Well, I mean, if we're going to have celebrity presidents, why not?

Speaker 2

Sorry, I mean, if I were to run, I would say how much worse could I do? I agree with you.

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Speaker 1

There are times when I've seen this shit with Tim Burchett yeah, okay, you know, like, yeah, that the okay. We have a problem with the straw. Okay, like, I wanted to post a photo of me giving head to a straw just to piss him off. You know, you think it's too sissy. Oh, because my lips are pursed, feel like you're gonna have a phallic thing going into your mouth or something like that.

Speaker 2

You sounded like that blonde haired mummy Burst Burst.

Speaker 1

Oh, janice from the yeah Electric Company, exactly right From the band. Oh really, oh really. Oh, kermie, so no, he had his lips all pursed and shit And's like got an issue with that. I'm like, oh my god, I'm like you know what you worry about being a man. You didn't hold on to that hot first wife of yours, you know, and uh, wearing your car hard jacket in the senate right exactly um, so I thought so.

Speaker 1

No, there are days I think like I should just run against this guy because I keep saying, man, I keep telling, I keep telling, like my mother-in-law, my wife, I'm like, yeah, you want someone to run against birch, like a democrat to run and like, even have a remote snowballs chance in hell, it has got to be a white male in their mid-50s, yeah oh, I just, that's me.

Speaker 2

I just can't stand how much that that politicians, along with the parties, just strive to divide yes, I, it sucks it sucks man I can't stand it, it's just oh anyway, yeah maybe that's just the makers talking right there, but I don't know.

Speaker 1

I it just makes me sad, man, like it's just, it's so bad, it's just the makers talking right there.

Speaker 2

I don't know, it just makes me sad man, it's so bad, it's just so bad that people will like.

Speaker 1

To roll that into our life entertainment discussion. So I'll announce this that I am now going to be on the 10-Care Dental Advisory Committee. Let's go, and so I'm happy to do that. Um, I'm, I'm honored. They asked me to be a part of it. I mean, I've been in the network more or less for the entirety of my 24 years of practice. Right? The people who are the 10 care dental uh director and the deputy director, well, the director is, I think, out of school by 10 years, 11 years, and the deputy director's out of school by five years.

Speaker 2

And I'm just like, oh god I've got more experience than both of you combined, right, you know?

Speaker 1

yeah um, and but they've been very kind to work with and everything. I'm happy to help them create a network for people on Medicaid, if that's what they're truly serious about.

Speaker 2

Right, this is all performative.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know, and they, you know it's a dog and pony show.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'm not going to be doing this for too long. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if that's the case.

Speaker 1

Well.

Speaker 2

I mean I'm always wondering what's behind the fucking curtain. I mean I'm always wondering what's behind the fucking curtain.

Speaker 1

Well, the previous contract we're about to shift from, 10 Care is managed by a group called DentaQuest. That's going to change in November. They're going to be managed by Renaissance, which is a subsidiary of Delta Dental. So I'm kind of excited about having a real insurance company involved, because I felt Denequest just did a lot of things that were counterproductive. And another problem you run into when you're dealing with that kind of bureaucracy is you get the glazed over soundbite.

Speaker 1

You see their eyes glaze over and say, yes, but that is how we do this and we've been doing it this way for a million years and the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, and so that's kind of where I'm at with this, and so we had a big Zoom call with them a month ago where I'm trying to implement this system into things so that I am not required to see these patients every four weeks, required to see these patients every four weeks, and this system will help us judge that, whether we need to see them at a certain point.

Speaker 1

that's cool. What, um, and the guy who was in charge of that company or who was the major representative for the company, it's. It was interesting watching people ask questions of the 10 care and the Renaissance dental people, cause they got those two groups got very quiet, but he would be like so right now it would appear that your authorization of cases to have orthodontic treatment is at about 15%. 15% of the new patients that are submitted to you get approved. Right, you're okay with that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, silence, and that's a thing that I'm going to keep going back to with them you're like I I think if you could get it to 30 you could have a really good program. And listen, I'm not gonna lie, there's there's a bit of self-interest in this for me, because I, I am the orthodontic medicaid provider for this corner of the state. Yeah, I am it. There is nobody else not a bad thing no, my, my.

Speaker 1

my area of influence extends from the north carolina border to the cumberland mountains, now goes south of the tennessee river down into monroe and meeks county, all the way to the k border. It is just me, wow. That's fucked, which, yeah, it's fucked that it's just me, but it's nice, you know, because I mean there are a lot of you know, benefits that are going to go with that.

Speaker 2

No, I get that.

Speaker 1

But so I'm now on this committee and I've talked with some parents about it, you know, and we've talked about the changes that are coming, and I said you know I'm here to I I am happy to help them build a new uh, you know, 10 care dental network if that's what they truly want, if they don't want that, if they don't want that, if it's just performative, then I won't be doing this for very long, yeah no, I hear you, man.

Speaker 1

I I hope that positive change is always I mean, how do you ignore the fact that 40 of the kids are on this?

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Speaker 1

you know, and so that's what I look at with regards to, you know, the, the constant budget, the big beautiful bill like, and everything like that, and of course I, so I try to rationalize a little bit. It's like well, okay, if medicaid cuts did happen, how's that going to go? I think my theory and I have nothing to back this up, this more wishful thinking on my part is it will be elderly care that takes the hit first. They will say fuck it, take your parents back into your house. You're going to take care of them? I don't. I think the kids will be the last to be hurt.

Speaker 2

But I could be completely wrong. No, I'd say that's. I mean, isn't that how it usually goes?

Speaker 1

I guess I don't know. And the other thing that I've said is okay, so by myself in my practice I can start if I really am putting the pedal to the metal. The best year I had I started 680 patients by myself. That's a lot. Yeah, yeah, anything over 400 is a lot. Yeah, so let's say 500 and I'm saying I'm going to do this for another six and a half years right so you're talking 3200 you know time keeps going by and you're still at six and a half.

Speaker 2

What's up with?

Speaker 1

that. No, I'm. I'll go down to six when we're in the month of July, because Virginia calls me out on that too. We've been doing this podcast. She's like when are we going to be down to six? And I'm like you'll be down to six on December 31st, honey, and I want to be very clear about this too. I will go longer if there are just some things that have to change.

Speaker 2

I understand.

Speaker 1

Like, the climate is such that this is the perfect time for me to now start assessing retirement. So I, but I don't know where that leads us.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I'm literally have to reboot my hunt for an associate now, like everyone that I had in the mix, like I just in the mix, like I just the timing wasn't right for this, and they've all got other jobs now.

Speaker 2

So it is what it is.

Speaker 1

So we'll just you know. You just reload and start all over again, yep.

Speaker 2

And it's all good in the hood. So we need to wrap this one up. Man, we need to wrap this one. I'm going to go home and cook some shrimp etouffee. What about that?

Speaker 1

I love it when you talk dirty to me.

Speaker 2

Heard Chef, heard Chef. Oh, I can't wait for season four.

Speaker 1

I can't either. Oh by the way have you ever watched? Welcome to Wrexham.

Speaker 2

No, I haven't Really, because it's on like the one and like there's only like two things I don't stream and it's on that one it's on disney and hulu oh, it is, yeah, it's on. Oh, then I can see that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, because disney and hulu are bonded together. Okay, so yeah, but but it's on disney and, uh, we're, it's in its fourth episode right now. So we're, we just finished season three, we're waiting for the rest of season four, to go on that and then um season five.

Speaker 2

It's real life, ted lasso it's really good.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I don't doubt that it's really he cracked me up.

Speaker 2

Uh, so there, neil patrick harris somehow some way, is now doing the voice of deadpool vr video game. Oh really. And so ryan reynolds put out on his page with twitter and instagram whatever he's acting like doogie hauser, typing up at the end of like every episode you know of like. So I've built this brand and now this guy comes out of nowhere like he does, he's mocking.

Speaker 1

Oh, that's hilarious. Oh, that is hilarious.

Speaker 2

Oh, it's so good you gotta find it, it's so good, ryan reynolds cracks me up to all in, but what's?

Speaker 1

funny because in season three they actually said like what the net worth of each ryan reynolds and rob mckelhenney were. And ryan reynolds didn't surprise.

Speaker 2

Like they said, he was worth 350 million dollars yeah, a lot of that came from like him selling off the gin that he made.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think it's all the site Like he, he and Ashton Kutcher, they all have this kind of entrepreneurial thing going on. They're really smart about it because, yes, this may not last forever. Seize the moment, do your investments and and try to get that passive income going. And then it said Rob McElhenney is worth $50 million. And I'm just like, yeah, that's I mean, you know.

Speaker 2

And it's like they bought this team.

Speaker 1

They bought this team and it's just been a great journey to follow. Like you care about these players and I told. Virginia. I said, if we end up living like in Scotland, you know we got to find a football club. We got to find a football. Well, not that, but we got to find a football club. We got to find a football Well, not that, but we got to find a football club that we can just lose our goddamn minds over.

Speaker 2

That's the investment.

Speaker 1

I'm talking about Save people lose their damn minds over it.

Speaker 2

I love it.

Speaker 1

It is insane, and I don't think I don't know if my son follows a particular football club at all. I don't know of any in Scotland that are. I couldn't Soccer, I'd just glaze over it.

Speaker 2

This is not my sport.

Speaker 1

But I would definitely If I was living over there. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2

If I was living over there I'd be in it. Oh yeah, no, big time. They're insane.

Speaker 1

Oh shit, you're giving me another excuse to drink beer. Well, what else do they have over there? The basketball and football. I mean American football and baseball and shit like that.

Speaker 2

None of that. Yeah, that's all they got you dive into it.

Speaker 1

You know that, and rugby yeah.

Speaker 2

I do like rugby, I like watching rugby. Yeah, yeah, that's an insane sport.

Speaker 1

Hey friends, it's been great reconnecting with you, Absolutely.

Speaker 2

It's been way too long. I hope you like the new format.

Speaker 1

I don't know how often we're going to get a chance to record that's going to be the real challenge that's on me.

Speaker 2

I'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.

Speaker 1

I was glad you could do this today.

Speaker 2

Absolutely. I can't leave at 11 on Fridays anymore, I know yeah.

Speaker 1

And you don't have that envied Friday off like I have. I've been trying to talk my kids occasionally when you've been bogged down and everything.

Speaker 2

I've been trying to talk my kids occasionally when you've been bogged down and everything I've been trying to talk them into. Hey, you want to come in and be like a guest, Guest goers?

Speaker 1

We talk about that and everything, or, you know, even Virginia, I'm like, yeah, we could talk about theater, local theater, and shit like that and whatnot. But yeah, nobody bites.

Speaker 2

Nobody bites on that. It's a shame.

Speaker 1

I'm going to have all the kids home at the week of June 20th.

Speaker 2

Awesome.

Speaker 1

Yeah, juliana's going to fly home, that'll be comfortable. Yeah, that'd be great, because I sent her a long thing about what you have to do for that one class. That's remaining. She doesn't email me back on any of that so. I don't know if it's registered or what I've kind of given up at this point. In a way, it'll work out. It'll work itself out One way or another, or I'll be dead. And then Jacqueline's got med school, starting this fall Awesome.

Speaker 1

So it'll be nice having all three of them at the same time and Virginia and Max are going to be down at Pauly, so like they'll completely have my focus.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 1

That'd be nice, that'd be good, that'd be good your kids got anything special planned for the summer. Beach volleyball, not that I'm involved with it all, all of a sudden hearing playing with the boys. Yeah, I know, right, but it didn't right, you know she's.

Speaker 2

She wanted to try it and they are providing it now. It's not like I gotta like go and like she's just gonna do it as a summer kind of thing which is where is she doing that? K2 man that k2 owns it all man k2 on.

Speaker 1

Where is that they?

Speaker 2

have those sand courts, sand courts at their old K2, which is off of Topside. That's right there near that Domino's. Okay, yes, right.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they've kept those courts up Between Pellissippi and Louisville Road, yep.

Speaker 2

Okay, I don't get out there anymore.

Speaker 1

I used to wear that road out all the time, and now I just don't.

Speaker 2

It's where everything's going, man Nice.

Speaker 1

Everything's going out that way and out towards loudon everything. Do you think we'll ever see sitico?

Speaker 2

come back as a restaurant. Do you know that place? Yeah, I didn't even realize it closed.

Speaker 1

I don't think it closed I think it closed itself off to the public. I think it's for the people that live in oh, I can see that that's probably smart I I don't know, I loved it.

Speaker 2

It was cool.

Speaker 1

It was cool and yet weird. Yeah, no, I loved it. I mean, virginia, and I Like when you went downstairs and you're like man, I feel like I'm playing.

Speaker 2

Virginia and I did shit.

Speaker 1

Well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2

It's like my parents aren't home, so right yeah, right no, like there's nobody down there, like we just kind of made out all over the place, you know, strange, isn't it all right? Yeah, that's why I felt like it was weird. It's just like, you know, I'm in, I'm in daddy's house and they're not home, so let's get crazy.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so yeah, it's actually.

Speaker 2

That's where strack and margarita got married okay, yeah, that whole they were down in area, that wind river area is unbelievable. I it.

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Speaker 1

They were down in Hilton Head the same week that I was down there. We got together and went to a place called the Jazz Corner in Hilton Head that sells live jazz and dinner, and then they came over to the house and we went to the beach in my area of the woods. So that marks them as the first Knoxville friends to ever officially seen my, my mother's home. Hell, yeah, so it was there you go there you go now.

Speaker 2

Now there's more back all of the pictures of that dog. They got man, the one with the blue.

Speaker 1

That dog is amazing. Yeah, this little maryland manson eyes, yeah right yeah, he's like yeah, he poses like this guy's a badass. It's like, yes, he is. Look at that guy, it's one of his good ones it is, it's, it's pretty good.

Speaker 1

It gets you hype yeah, no, and and it's like a 30 year old song it is, it's, yes, like that's what's blowing my mind there's a bunch of stuff that, like, I'm listening to now, that that like, because 30 years ago was when I first showed up at officer indoctrination school and then, right after that, ended up living in San Diego. So, like everything, now is this weird 30th anniversary for me and it's like blowing my mind. And I'm like like, like or green days, you know, went out on tour and they're touring. Last year it was the 30th anniversary of Dookie and it was the 20th anniversary of American.

Speaker 2

Idiot, doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1

I'm like no those albums came out yesterday.

Speaker 2

Doesn't make any sense. It's a wild ride.

Speaker 1

We all get older. It's a wild ride, and you know what? The only thing we can do, david, is be decent to each other.

Speaker 2

You're damn right. That's all we can do friends, it's been a joy contacting and cheers you uh, please give us 150 listens on this.

Speaker 1

If you get over to apple podcast, please give us a five-star review and say kind things about us, because the algorithm will then cause people to be more focused on us and we want all the focus on us because we're a little narcissistic like that, and I am at least, that's why I'm in therapy. So and there are a lot of people from high anyone from high school listening to this is going, yeah, the fuck he is, yeah Duh, yeah duh. Glad he had that breakthrough moment. Anyway, peace out, friends. I don't know, I don't know. Peace out, friends.