Episode 46 - Ninety-Dollar Beers, Ten-Dollar Opinions

The receipt said ninety dollars for two beers, and somehow that became the perfect starting point: the cost of being a fan, the value of a great night, and the way sports can still make us feel like kids. We break down UT–Duke from the seats, and it didn’t play like an exhibition. Duke’s second-half pulse felt inevitable, the crowd was all-in, and we came home with takes on rotations, the Boozer impact, and why Scheyer’s recruiting plus the Brotherhood might be the most durable asset in college hoops.

The conversation keeps moving because life does. Duke football’s whiplash weeks, a controversial call that flipped a result, and the reality that defense and composure decide November. Then it’s concert season—Toto, Rod Stewart, Journey, Joe Jackson—and the truth that one show turns into five when nostalgia starts talking. We swap venue lore, admit our irrational loyalties, and argue the merits of Thompson-Boling by any name.

Off the court, work stays loud: insurance transitions, triple-net leases, failing AC units, x-ray cables, and a year of fixes that refuse to line up. We talk about running a practice like a team—triage first, patience next, receipts everywhere. The holidays crash the calendar, but the tree goes up early for a reason. Music rituals, a Chris Squire winter spin, and a short list of gifts that actually hit help steady the pace.

And yes, we rant. Gym campers who live on machines with their phones. Track walkers clogging the inside lane. Merger roulette on the highway. We laugh because it’s absurd, but we’re serious about it too: small courtesies are not optional. They’re the grease that keeps a city, a gym, and a game night running. We close with a nod to auditions, a pour of Woodford vs a Speyside scotch, and a simple rule that still works: be decent.

If you’re here for honest sports chatter, life in the trenches, and a few laughs that bite, you’re in the right place. Listen, subscribe, share with a friend who loves a good second-half surge, and tell us your own arena shock story in a review.

Transcript

Sticker Shock And Arena Beers

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Tutoring Sten again was not taped before a live studio audience. Do you realize that we spent 90 bucks on beer at Thompson Bowling Arena? And boy were those two beers awesome. They were the best ever.

SPEAKER_02 0:12

And you know why they were the best? Why?

SPEAKER_00 0:14

Because Duke wanted to be.

SPEAKER_03 0:47

It's me. It's me, David T. How are you doing? I I'm getting out the second mortgage for the beers at Thompson Bowling.

SPEAKER_02 0:55

No shit. That was on top of you reimbursing me for the big bottle of makers you drank.

SPEAKER_03 0:59

Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

unknown 1:00

My blue.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

I mean, no kidding. Three rounds of beers was$90. That was insane. The only place where I've had it worse is the Embassy Beach Club in Las Vegas. Their frozen drinks were like$65 each. And I just I was there for a bachelor party. This was like five, four or five years ago. Yeah. And um I was there for a bachelor party, and it was just you just that's only money. That right. It's just, you know, it's you're winning. You're either gambling it or you're putting it in a G string or you're blowing it on alcohol. You can make it back in Vegas. That's the thing. Or you just say it is what it is. That's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:42

Win in Rome.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

Win in Rome.

SPEAKER_03 1:44

Oh man. That game was fun as hell, though. It didn't feel like an exhibition. No, it really didn't. Yeah, that was fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:49

It really kind of though set the narrative for me that Duke is a second half team.

SPEAKER_03 1:53

Oh, yeah. And they've proven that already.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

Like there's there are moments like during the army game earlier this week, and I'm just like, oh, Christ, they're lighting up from three-point range. This is not good. Here we go. Here we go. You know? And uh, but that was but but it uh I though think also it's like the JJ Reddick teams where and I've said this before, they toy with you for the first half, and then at the end of the first half, they just beat the shit out of you.

SPEAKER_03 2:19

I don't I don't know what Duke has given their teams over the past at halftime, but man, they need to bottle that shit. Seriously. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

Like I wish I could like use that for my employees.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Second half employees.

UT–Duke Exhibition Deconstructed

SPEAKER_02 2:33

Second half employees, you know. So no, David and I were at the UT Duke exhibition game on October 26th. Yeah, it was fun. That was a good time. Yeah, man, that was great.

SPEAKER_03 2:46

I love that arena's fantastic. All the rounds.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

It really is. It doesn't feel huge.

SPEAKER_03 2:50

No, you know, no, it doesn't. But I mean, it can get loud and you know, for it to be an exhibition game and being so close game. Oh, it was great. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah. I mean, both teams are gonna go far in March. Absolutely. Um, I mean, UT will shit the bed at some point, but um, but it it was good to see that. And I was I was curious, not about how the teams were gonna be, but just how that they were gonna play it since it was an exhibition. Like, was this gonna be like, hey, go, let's go down the bench? And but no, they really treated it like a real game. Yes, they did.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

Yeah, no, no, it was fun. No, I kind of wondered, like, is Duke gonna do that too? Are they gonna kind of like bullshit around and like, oh, it's a loss, it doesn't count? And I'm like, Yeah, this is more bragging, right?

SPEAKER_03 3:32

Yeah, like ten ten minutes in the second half, all of a sudden the walk-ons are coming up. You know, you know, but yes, um it was fun. It was it was a good time. Appreciate you getting those tickets. Oh, yeah. No, I was happy I could get them. Yeah. They everyone was giving me the stink eye, like, who brought that Duke boy in here?

SPEAKER_02 3:50

They hate me because they ain't me.

SPEAKER_03 3:53

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

Oh, you know, I mean, gosh, it's been since uh mid, well, it's been almost a month. Over it's been a month since we last recorded. Now I just I just uploaded episode 45 this week. So this will sit for about a week and then I'll upload it a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 4:11

Yeah, for us to get back together after a month is like wow.

SPEAKER_02 4:14

So in the meantime, we've had um well, we can talk about that Duke Clemson football game, too. Oh man, dude.

SPEAKER_03 4:22

Yeah, Duke Clemson, you got a big one Saturday. Playing Virginia, if you win that, you're probably gonna play in the championship game.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

No, because we lost to Georgia Tech, and then we lost last weekend to Connecticut. But that's an oh yeah, last weekend was could have been the oh, we're gonna get a bowl, and oh, Connecticut's a team, you know. But like the defense on Duke's defense just sucks ass.

SPEAKER_03 4:45

And doesn't that make you mad? Because Manny Diaz is supposed to be the defensive guru, and then it's just like, well, okay. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Like, I get it when you know, uh what's his fucking name? Uh previous coach, Cutcliffe. Oh, yeah. When Cutcliffe was the coach, and like, okay, all of a sudden quarterbacks were like awesome at Duke. Yeah, okay, I get that. Yeah, you know, that makes sense. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

I get I'm I'm down with that.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

You know, this this team, of course, I try not to get too psyched because it'll be like, okay, the seasonal conference will come to an end, and then everyone's gonna go in the portal and we won't have a team for a bowl game, and then it'll be just like last year.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

Yeah, I tell you, it's just crazy, man. That it's college football is gonna be wide ass open the rest of the year with the with the coaching and all that bullshit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:26

Do we know if uh Dabo Sweeney still is gonna have a job at the end of this season? Because he more or less.

SPEAKER_03 5:32

He'll have a job. I think he may just up and leave and go.

SPEAKER_02 5:35

Because he kind of articulated that in after the Duke Clemson game. Now, I will say this to anyone listening. Yes, Clemson got screwed over on that final Duke drive.

SPEAKER_03 5:45

I went back and watched it. Okay. Did you watch it? Yeah. Yeah, no, Clemson got screwed.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

It was offensive pass interference. I don't know what the fuck the ref was thinking. I don't know what the review refs were were thinking. Yeah, man. That was not pass interference. They were ripping the bong. And they, I mean, that was one where the refs totally gave Duke the win. You know, and you know, ballsy move doing the two-point conversion on top of that, you know.

SPEAKER_03 6:09

Good for him.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

Yeah, but it was, I mean, I'm like, it was a mad, I just lost my fucking mind in that game. First time in 45 years we've won there. It's crazy. Yeah. So that was nice excitement. Yeah. Uh, but now it's basketball season. That's really all we care about. That's all you move. That's all you move forward to that. That's all we move forward now.

SPEAKER_03 6:26

So they're good, man. The boozers are fucking that real deal. They have got a solid team.

SPEAKER_02 6:33

Yeah, solid team.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

They don't look young.

SPEAKER_02 6:35

Solid to the point that I have already forgotten about last year's starting five. Cooper, Cooper, Cooper fucking who? What? Con? Like the Wrath of? Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03 6:54

Malawatch? Oh, man. Malawatch this. Yeah. You know? What was that? What was that other guy's name? That other white boy. Oh, what was it? He went to the NBA last year's The Duke team. You might have already said it. I said, well, Con Knipple was. Knipple, that's right. Yeah, he went, he's, I think, playing for the Hornets.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

I was just stuck on Kanipple. He had like a monster first game with the Hornets. Like that kid was I actually liked him more than I liked Cooper Flag.

SPEAKER_03 7:19

Just because he just a little bit more scrappier.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

Kind of had that Bobby Hurley vibe to him. You know, and Hurley was my favorite player of all time. Yeah, he was a stud. So um, yeah, good season so far.

SPEAKER_03 7:30

We got to see you. I still love Christian Leitner t-shirt at Thompson Bowling. That's awesome. Yeah, no, we'll take that. It was good, man. I really appreciated going in. Oh, yeah, no.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

I'm glad we could make that one.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

And I'm glad basketball season's here, and how in the fuck are we at Thanksgiving?

SPEAKER_02 7:43

How in the fuck are we at Thanksgiving? No, you're absolutely right. Well, so to backpack, backtrack where what all has happened since is so the seventh weekend of the 17th, we went down to Spartanburg for Jacqueline's white coat ceremony at Virginia College of Osteopathic Medicine. That was nice. Um, and then we went up to Boston to visit Virginia's college friend. And oh, that was so sweet. Like I had forgotten how much I loved New England. Yeah. You know, it'd been like it'd been like about 10 or about no about 15 years since I was last up there. You had to have hit it right at the perfect time of year. You have no idea, man. Like the leaves and everything. It was just friggin' insane. Um you have a lager, got a lager, got a lager. Left my Hershey bod in the car, though. Oh no. It was rather hot. Like anybody down in Southie used to say.

SPEAKER_03 8:37

It's so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 8:38

So no, and then we did that. And so then um and we chilled here, and then last weekend I went down to uh to Hilton Head to check in on mom and uh and uh here we are now at this weekend. You're busy as shit all the time. Just all the time. It's and so next weekend I go to New York to with Virginia's sister and husband and taking a couple plays, and then truly I am done for the year. Yeah, right. Now, I was listening to our latest episode that we uploaded. I remember talking about we were talking about concerts, and I said, Well, so far, yeah, Rush is the only concert that I have on the. Yeah, well, okay. So the last eight days have been a little busy. So And then you googled. And then and and then the emails started coming. So we have now 2026 is Toto at the Tennessee Theater. Nice. Um, Rod Stewart. Oh, that's it's all Thompson Bowling.

SPEAKER_03 9:28

He's one of my favorite shows I've been to. Really? Yeah, it was way back when when you had that um like the oval stage right there in the middle where you kept just going around.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

That was fun. And then um Journey. Oh, nice coming to Thompson Bowling.

SPEAKER_03 9:42

Really?

SPEAKER_02 9:42

Yeah. And then uh Joe Jackson uh down in uh Atlanta. Well, there you go. And I'm only traveling for that one because that's the weekend in June that Virginia and Max will go down to Polly's Island to be with her family. Sweet. And uh, the attorney brother and his wife are gonna go to the concert too, so I'm just gonna stay at their house in Atlanta. So you know, so uh and then uh rush that so yeah, one quickly became five. Cut off one, five grow in its place.

SPEAKER_03 10:09

The concert hydra.

SPEAKER_02 10:11

It is the concert hydra, man. But it was a lot of it was just based on like Journey, it was the final frontier, and I'm like, okay, I I really was holding out for Steve Perry rejoining the group, right? But okay, I'll do this. Yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_03 10:26

And then what is like the new Spinal Tap movie called? It was like the end again or something like that. Something like that, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:31

You know, or like any who tour where they now they're saying the final tour. I'm like, yeah, I've heard I heard that back in 1982, man, you know. So sure, sure, sure, sure. Right. And but um, and then Rod Stewart, like again, you know, kind of like I said, well, if you're coming through town, God, how old is Rod Stewart? Well, he's gotta be in his late 70s.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

Has to be. Yeah. I'd say that's making him a young man. I'd say he's in his 80s.

SPEAKER_02 10:57

I don't, I mean to you know, to the septigen to the septigenarian circuit, maybe you, you know.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

I mean Yeah, way back, I mean it was the 90s when I saw him, man. He's you know, signing, you know, soccer balls. Right, yeah, and kicking them out in the audience.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Yeah, I heard he heard he do that. Yeah, that I no, I've never seen him live. And so I'm like, you're here in town. And I told Virginia, for me, now the deal breaker is I set kind of a price cap. And I've been calling these for me second-tier bands. Like, I'm not dying. Like, if I never see them, it's not like I'll, you know, I'll be missing out on something. But hey, you're coming to town? Okay, yeah, all right. I'm here, I'll, I'll, I'll do it. So, so um, yeah, we got we got so yeah, it became five.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

And again, Thompson bowling or food city, whatever the fuck it's called. I mean, it's a great place to see a concert.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

What are you? Are you a Thompson bowling? Are you a food city?

SPEAKER_03 11:57

I am I am a Thompson bowling. So am I. It just it sounds better. Uh I can't stand it. I don't even like Food City. Sorry, Food City, but nobody likes Food City.

SPEAKER_02 12:07

No. I did a commercial for them a couple years ago. No.

SPEAKER_03 12:10

Yeah. They're like the to me, they're like the Kmart of grocery stores. They all have the same like hint of bad shrimp. Yes. And it just, I don't know. Right.

Concert Hydra: Tickets, Nostalgia, Venues

SPEAKER_02 12:20

You wouldn't you wouldn't want to buy sushi from them.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

No. No. Definitely not. No. No. No. Definitely not. To put your put your immune system to the test. I was I was always too. I was I always wished I was able to see a a basketball game at Stokely before they took that down. That was like where Ernie and Bernie played before. That would have been fun as hell. But I mean, I know there's some old hats. I ain't going into Thompson bowling. I'm a Stokely guy. Now I'm a Thompson bowling guy. Gotcha. I'm one of those. But yeah, it's been um it's been fun a few weeks, man. It's just always busy. There's always something going on, dude. Dude, I hear you.

SPEAKER_02 12:56

Like I was I was in Nashville earlier today. Like I got up early, had a meeting with the 10 care dental advisory committee from 9 to 12 central time, and then I hit the road, came, got here, got home right half hour before you came over. Yeah. And uh and that was you know, it was nice. Um, they rolled out the new 10 care dental benefits manager took over. Oh, cool. New uh dental benefits manager took over 10 care, rolled it out, been a little underwhelming these first two weeks, but they know that at least. And so I had nice sidebar conversations with them today. I got all their emailed, so I feel better about things now. So I think we'll be able to, you know. I I was telling my office manager who the first two after day three was like about ready to have a nervous breakdown over everything. I'm like, we were fooling ourselves if we thought that there wasn't gonna be hiccups and speed bumps and wrinkles to be ironed out. Sure. You know, so we iron out the wrinkles, and and so I kind of feel this is a step forward on that. So I don't really go about it. But um other than that, just you know, here we are.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

Here we are. Again, Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Yeah, I've already put up Christmas stuff, dude.

SPEAKER_02 14:09

Yeah, Virginia's gonna go probably have a talk with you about that. And that's fine. She's she's a purist, not until Advent starts.

SPEAKER_03 14:17

Well, I hear you, but I mean, it was it was, and normally I don't do it until after Thanksgiving. Yeah, that's kind of how I am. I'm like the weekend immediately following Thanksgiving. But this this particular year, when we were talking, even with my daughter, just talking, and it was just like, well, shit, if we don't do it this weekend, it's gonna be December 15th, and I won't have a damn anything out, and it won't be there won't be a damn point to it. Right. So I haven't done any outside stuff, but you know, I got the tree up and giving me some little serotonin at night, you know.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

No, I mean it's it's a pain in the ass bringing it down, it's a pain in the ass putting it back up in the attic. But when it's up, oh, it's it's wonderful, it's really nice, yeah, you know, and I got Virginia, she then bakes and she's singing Christmas shit while she bakes, and we have Christmas choral music going, it's gotta be Christmas chorus. I gotcha. And um, of course, we will break out Chris Squire's Swiss choir. Now, Chris Squire, friends, if you're not aware, he was the bass, he was the bass guitarist for yes. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:23

I didn't know who the fuck that was, but that this wood almost shot out of my nose with that articulation there.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

You have to because say it five times fast. Ain't no way. Chris Squire's Swiss choir. But it's like all these old classic Christmas songs. It's not like he did jingle bells or anything like that. Like it just and I listen to it, I get a little maudlin about it. Because he he died like in I think 2012 or 2014 or something like that. And just he's a phenomenal bass guitarist. I mean, anyone who's listened to Yes's stuff.

SPEAKER_03 15:55

It's just it's always just the best time of year. Yeah, it's the greatest. If you allow it to be sure. If you don't just, you know, get consumed by all the hustle and bustle and all that shit, but just take that time of of of really just centering yourself on that stuff. It's it it's very good. How far out do you start planning for people's gifts? Um it really truly depends. I mean, it it depends on the person, it depends on, you know, almost with my kids, it seems like it's just year-round. It's just like, oh, that'd be great, you know. Um, but nowadays with Amazon, it that that window gets smaller. But um, you know, I usually start in November is when I really start getting going of like, okay, this is what we've got to do.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

This yeah, I've probably got Virginia kind of figured out for Christmas. So she's easy. It's it's the kids just as they get older becomes a little problem.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

Well, my now with my son, it's like, here you go, enjoy your flight school. Here's a plane. I'm gonna go buy you a plane. Here's your flight school, pal. You know, but uh it is difficult when they get older, especially when you you know when you get the well, I don't know. I you know, just the when you don't I'd much rather hear. I would love to have this or that, you know, just to make sure I'm getting them something nice because sometimes when you feel like you've done something thoughtful and then they just look at it. It's like, oh well shit, why'd I why'd I do that?

SPEAKER_02 17:23

I don't put a lot of expectations out there in that way. I I'm always kind of surprised where people go with this. Yeah. Um, but with for Virginia, I like gave her a list of because you know, I'm kind of all things Scotland these days. So the R and Fisherman sweaters and then Harris Tweed sports coats. Nice. So I wore I wore the one that I have to the meeting today, and it's like the the thing they advertise about Harris Tweed wool is that it'll keep you warm when it's cold, but it will keep you cool when it's warm. And I got out at Bucky's at Crossville, and it's 73 degrees, and I'm like, okay, I'm not sweating at all on this thing. So I'm like, okay, so yeah, that's kind of those are the only things I really have asked for. God, Bucky's, man. What a fucking I had a free meat sandwich, which was turkey, pulled pork and sausage.

SPEAKER_03 18:14

Oh my God. I've never eaten there. I went in there and was like blown away. The sandwiches are pretty legit. And then went into the bathroom and was like, whoa shit.

Work Chaos, Insurance Shifts, And Repairs

SPEAKER_02 18:24

This is wow. Yes, go ahead and shit. Because it's floor to ceiling, walls and doors, as it should be.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

That should be their billboard. Just go ahead and shit. It's cool. Go ahead and shit.

SPEAKER_02 18:51

We'll tell team buckies we want a commission off that if they go that route, you know.

SPEAKER_03 18:55

I would definitely buy that t-shirt. You can have that Bucky inflatable where he's like hunkering down, you know? Yeah. Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 19:06

How's the job been going?

SPEAKER_03 19:07

Man, it's just wild. It really is. It just never stops. I just there is as soon as as soon as one problem and and or situation is completed, boom, you get hit with the next one. I mean, it's just nuts. That's all I can that's truly all I can say about it. I can help you co-write that song. I'm telling you. And then we've got nothing but renovations coming on top of it. So this whole next year, man, I'm gonna be like hard hatting the hell out of everything. And it's just the the endgame result will be unbelievable, but getting there is gonna be extremely tough.

SPEAKER_02 19:42

That's how it's been this year for me. It has been one non-stop repair, maintenance, what have you over the course of this year. So, you know, we had gone out of the 10 care network for a little bit, and then when we came back in at the beginning of this year, well, then it was, oh, let's fight about the budget. Right. So everyone got a little angsty about that. So it wasn't really until May that we got off and running. But then it's like the air conditioning unit at my West Knoxville office craps out. Oh, that was a$15,000 expense to get that replaced.

SPEAKER_03 20:16

And then and then uh Do you accrue for all that stuff, like budget-wise, or like do you just accrue or is it?

SPEAKER_02 20:22

I just look in the bank and do I have the money to buy it? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

Okay. I mean, I don't, but I I interestingly enough, I have never drawn up a budget for my practice. Wow. Yeah. Good for you. I just say the money will come in and I will spend it as I need to. And if there's a lot of money at the end of the year, that's a bonus for me. I'll I see it. Or you know, and the team as well. Right. Yeah, but mostly for me. Uh no, and so and so then the the rain that we had last month, the the spate of rain that we had going on, all of a sudden I got water coming in through the ceiling at the Harden Valley office, and I, you know, and you kind of fight with the landlord about that because the last thing they want to do is deal with it. And it's finally it's oh yeah, there was a leak in the roof, so they patch that up, and that that's which is good because I didn't then I all I gotta do is replace ceiling tiles.

SPEAKER_03 21:16

I got you. So the the marable is the only marable spots, the only building you own. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

Yeah, the other two I rent. Okay. So that makes sense. Yeah, and my guy in Morristown, it's a pediatric dentist from whom I'm renting, and and uh he's very responsive and everything like that. But you know, it's when you have a triple net lease, you know, it's you're responsible for for everything inside the four walls. Gotcha. And they'll they'll handle the exterior stuff if they feel like it, you know. But they were they were good. And so then I've been in also this big battle with Comcast. Um, who I and that's really all I need to say. I just can stop right there because all of our listeners, yeah, we know.

unknown 22:01

Right.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

If you've ever dealt with them, the fuck are you doing with them in the first place?

SPEAKER_03 22:07

What about your medical equipment? Do you own that stuff too?

SPEAKER_02 22:10

Well, in theory, I do. The the practice owns it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when I sell, the equipment will be a part of the sale. I gotcha. And so that's what's factored into the value of the practice. Gotcha. Um, but yeah, in theory, it's all my stuff, my toys. Cool. Yeah. So but so yeah, it's just been nonstop repairs, maintenance, tech glitches, and stuff like it. Just it's one cord in one of my x-ray machines, crapped out. So then, you know, then you're shut down. You can't take x-rays for a few until the part arrives and someone kind of. Yeah, you know, and so it just it's just I'm tired of these hiccups and I'm hoping we're we're past it now and we can just plod forward and and and whatnot. Or just, you know, can we just have 2026 be easier?

SPEAKER_03 22:55

Yeah. So I'm gonna say no. I would guess. Yeah, it just it seems like ever since 2020, it's like it's been nonstop.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

No, nope, nope.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

Not today, Satan, and Satan goes, oh, you sweet thing.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Nah.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

Hey, election day 2025.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Oh well.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

Some people in this country don't like what's going on.

Holidays, Traditions, And Gift Strategy

SPEAKER_03 23:22

There's tons of people. I mean, I I I the only one that was like just weird to me is and and all eyes were on it was up in New York. I mean, I think a lot of that stuff, you you knew it was gonna be blue on a lot of it. But the the whole New York governor thing, that's been weird to me. You mean the mayorship? Mayor, sorry. Yeah, I just the uh just uh it's been weird to me.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

So I think there's a lot to be said about the fact that Mom Donnie won, and then a few days later, Nancy Pelosi says she's not running for another term. Uh yeah, I'll that's the wake-up call that like the party is going to change now. Yeah, with AOC and the squad and all of those things.

SPEAKER_03 24:04

And and I don't it would have been interesting to see if if this ground swell was around when Bernie was truly, truly going what it would have really looked like.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Well, and if the if the DNC hadn't had their thumb on the scale so that Hillary would walk away with the nomination. I mean that was horseshit. And everyone talks now in the postmortem from 2024. That's I mean, they talk, they go back to 2016 and say, yeah, you you lost all your young voters. Well, the trade-off the but the trade-off is this because I see it where my son goes to school in the UK. And so it's yeah, anyone who lives in the UK gets to go to college for free. But it is, you know, like you can't just go to Oxford, you've gotta earn going into Oxford. Um you know, but you also pay for that with taxes, you know, and so that's the trade-off, you know, and and you there's a national health care service.

SPEAKER_03 25:04

Yeah, but I think three-fourths of our nation just automatically doesn't even think about taxes, they're just like, oh well, he said free, so it's free. Right, exactly. Like, yeah, somebody's gotta pay for this shit. Right, you know, but I don't think that can ever computes. No, and that's what's just frustrating as shit. And then when you actually right or left, you know, like giving them more money, like, are you serious? Sure. Like, y'all can't y'all can't do shit with anything. Like, we're gonna give you more.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

Well, I mean, it's like the promises, oh, first day I'm gonna bring down all the prices of food. Yeah, and that hasn't happened. Right. And that's what happened on election night is that people were like, hey, you know what? You f y'all fucking lied to us. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:49

You know, I mean, what politician hasn't.

SPEAKER_02 25:51

Yeah, but I mean, like, this was the the inflation thing was a big deal. And I know, it still is. And it's why Kamala lost because she didn't touch on it enough, and it's it's why Trump won, and then he just flat out didn't deliver. Yeah, you know, and then meanwhile, he's I mean, his tone-deaf, I don't know who the fuck is doing his videos and stuff, but like the most tone-deaf stuff on the shitting on the protesters and and and and then the the great Gatsby fucking party thing while people are about to lose their snap benefits. All of it's just terrible. It is, it's awful. All of it.

SPEAKER_03 26:24

Like the past have we made America great yet? No, but like fuck. What was what was being done the last four?

SPEAKER_02 26:35

No, I exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 26:37

It's just like God dog, like it's just it's just well.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

It's funny, it's funny because in drawing the comparisons to the to Biden's administration is that so you know they've been talking a lot about do away with the filibuster and everything like that. And I'm like, yeah, Democrats, you know, uh, excuse me, Senator's Mansion and cinema. I I I've been sitting here the whole time going, if you guys don't do it, they will someday. Right. And I found it interesting though, the restraint in that the GOP showed in saying, Yeah, no, we're not fucking touching this. Like that there has been some outright standing up to Trump that the GOP has been willing to do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

Do away with the filibuster. Yeah, no. Yeah, I I think more and more of it's gonna happen. Yeah. Um, just due to the fact that they know he won't be president ever again. Right. And so it's just like, oh, okay, I'm we've we've done what we've done. Now we've got a now we have got to prepare for the next round.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

So you don't think he's gonna run in 2028? No. That's we're right. No, he can't.

SPEAKER_03 27:41

That's exactly like every time like he's he just says that just to get a beat.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

I just I roll my eyes every time he says it.

SPEAKER_03 27:50

To me, I laugh.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

Don't take the bait, guys. Right.

SPEAKER_03 27:53

He's like he's full of shit.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

He's full of shit. He can't run another time.

SPEAKER_03 27:56

No, he can't.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

You know, there's no Supreme Court ruling that can let him do that.

SPEAKER_03 28:02

Even somehow, somehow, if he did, by the time this next three years roll around, he is gonna be a blubbering idiot more so than what he is now. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. I mean, it's just like I don't know how it is not gonna live forever.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

I don't know how Gavin Newsom isn't calling him out like on falling asleep in some of those, oh, it's sleepy Joe Trump now.

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SPEAKER_03 28:22

Because he's he is to me the epitome of the worst politician ever. Who, Newsom? Yes. Oh, I love him. Really?

SPEAKER_02 28:32

I do.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

I think he's the biggest slime ball on the planet.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

Oh, he's I right now, I think for the Democratic Party, he's the only answer. Unless Pritzker decides to make a run for it. That's scary.

SPEAKER_03 28:44

Yeah. That's scary. Because I mean, Jesus. I mean, even back when he was what didn't he just screw his damn uh campaign manager's wife. Oh, don't they all do that? Well, I know, but it's like why can't we why can't we just put somebody that's like decent?

SPEAKER_02 29:03

Like, no, that is what I've been saying about Democrat, Democratic politicians lately is can you please keep your fucking pants zipped? Please keep your pants zipped. We've got please, can any of you just do it? And it's like, and you just see the news that someone else is being they're saying that.

SPEAKER_03 29:23

I'm still shocked at the disappearance of Shapiro for the Democratic Party. True. I I thought this dude was picking up serious, serious speed, and then all of a sudden, like the Gaza thing, it was like he wasn't gonna be touched. Like it was like, well, okay, you're out.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:50

I mean, I truly thought he was gonna be uh Kamala's. I did too. I mean, like, I was like, man, this guy's in your face, he's young, he's he's articulate. He could do well against Vance. Like he's hitting all the buttons. He's in a swing state, but then but then nothing. It was weird. And then even now, like you never see his face or hear anything from him. Like, what the hell happened?

SPEAKER_02 30:16

Well, while we're at it, hell, let's talk about like what Kool-Aid did Marjorie Taylor Green drink?

SPEAKER_03 30:22

She's preparing herself for after Trump.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

Yeah. I mean, coming out against her own fellow congressman, and I watched her on Bill Maher, and I was like, God, I I mean, I don't love Billy. Somehow, some way that I don't love her anymore, but I don't hate her. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:38

Somehow, some way that the ticket's gonna be her and Fetterman.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

That boy, talk about for the Democrats. That's the big disappointment, is Fetterman just kind of went rogue on everything. But like you saw that coming with him. Oh, yeah. Yeah. If the guy survives this term, my god, he's nothing but one health issue after another.

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SPEAKER_03 30:58

Didn't he just recently have a cardiac event like two days ago or some shit? Yeah. That's crazy, man. I again, you know my stance on all of them. I can't stand a single one of them. Yeah, I know. But we're stuck with them. Yeah, we are. But I I just I do want somebody to somehow come through that's able to God to fucking mesh people back together. Uh and I don't know how it's gonna happen. I don't either. I wish it would happen, though. We're like everyone can just dial it back. Everything, you know. With everything. You know, it's just like it doesn't matter what side, it's like, well, we're we're gonna, whatever that scale is, if I'm gonna lean left or lean right, I'm going all the way to where my ass won't get off the ground. And I can't stand that crap, man.

SPEAKER_02 31:47

You wanna know what drives me crazy?

SPEAKER_03 31:49

You know what grinds my gears.

SPEAKER_02 31:51

I'm gonna do a complete topic change on you here. I've been wanting to rant about this for a while.

SPEAKER_03 31:55

Oh shit. Give me some give me some stuff.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

I hate going to the gym, and not because I don't like working out. I love working out. I don't like that there are other people there while I work out. So, I mean, I'm sure you dealt with the people that I like to call the campers. Oh, yeah. And that is they get on a piece of equipment, start checking their phones, checking their phones, and they like I can get through five machines in the one time that they're on.

SPEAKER_03 32:22

Their three sets of 12 takes 35 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 32:25

Exactly. Yep. And it is Murphy's Law with me that when I get to like the last I see I'm two machines away from being done, both of those will get occupied by campers.

SPEAKER_03 32:38

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

And like, and then I just say fuck it and go home.

SPEAKER_03 32:41

No, I get it.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

But I I I like I wish there were a way that National Fitness Center could just like, hey, stop fucking around on your phone and fucking work out, or else get off the fucking machine. The other thing that I hate, and it's not as not as much a problem anymore, but I've also been become very demonstrative about it over the last year. The track going around at the signature club, uh right near Sam's Club. Is it as annoying as people merging onto the inner? It can be, but it's it's very simple. Walkers are on the outside, yeah, runners are on the inside. Yep. And then you'll get that fucking walker that just insists on being on the inside.

SPEAKER_03 33:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:23

Invariably an old person, senior citizen.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

Yeah. Um it's like the guy that gets in the left lane and goes 40 miles away. Exactly. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

Yeah. Also, there'll be the people who like to stand on the the outside of the gate that surrounds the inner gym area and and and separates the inner gym area from the track. But they're gonna stand on the track side of that and have a conversation with their friend while you're quasi standing in the runner's lane.

SPEAKER_03 33:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Like, I've actually taken photos of people doing that on my like, and I've kind of wanted and I've held off posting them, like going, yeah, if you're this person, then you're a dick. Like if this is you and you think this is okay, you're a fucking asshole.

SPEAKER_03 34:04

Well, it it goes back to the last uh podcast that we were, you know, our last episode or the one before that is the lack of empathy, lack of respect. Everyone's so self-centered. Yep, it doesn't, no one cares anymore. Nobody pays attention to what they're doing. Nope. And and they don't care.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

Right. Like, I don't know about you, but like not so much today. Wednesday and Thursday, Wednesday coming home from Marival, I promise you, on every major road that I took to get home, there was a car accident. There was that major car accident on Pelissippi, right near Topside Road exit. Like had 11 police cars there. Thankfully, it wasn't my direction that it was happening, but like everybody heading from Knoxville down to Alcoa Highway was like they were in standstill forever. Yeah. And then I get off, and it's okay. Then there's this big accident right on Kingston Pike, right near Everett Road where I live. And like I'm watching some guy gurnieed into an ambulance, and I hope he's okay. But I'm like, people, can you just watch what the fuck you're doing?

SPEAKER_03 35:08

No, they're probably too busy on their phone. Yeah. I mean, it's just even going getting on alcohol highway to go to work. Oh, come on. I hate that for you. Uh it's fine, it's it's still a lot quicker than doing what I was doing. Right. Uh even the guy on the radio in the helicopter was like, there is a huge uh backup around the airport, and honestly, I don't even know why. Like, it's just people can't merge. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

Yes. Well, the people I love in the merge, like in the merge lane, and like it's the merge lane is not even really started doing its narrowing thing, you know. Right. I'll break, I'll break to let them in way early. No, they want to ride that merge lane to the very last instant. And I'm like, the fuck is wrong with you people?

SPEAKER_03 35:58

Just get in and keep it going.

SPEAKER_02 35:59

Get in the goddamn lane now.

SPEAKER_03 36:01

Yeah, keep it going.

SPEAKER_02 36:05

We're better. Thank you for allowing me to do this. I just I mean, I've been wanting to do this for for like months, actually.

SPEAKER_03 36:10

Well, just your the gym thing. Your gym thing is the reason why I got the tonal.

SPEAKER_01 36:15

Okay.

Politics, Parties, And 2025–2028 Futures

SPEAKER_03 36:16

It was a I got everything that I needed to do. It's on my wall, it's there. I don't have to worry about driving. I don't have to worry about the nasty ass that can't clean themselves after you know COVID made me like really I don't want to say I'm a germaphobe now, but I was like, ooh, God, y'all are Oh, see, I don't wipe down the machines. No, say the there, there I'm the bad guy.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

I do not wipe down the machine. You leave the puddle? I don't care. No, I don't make a puddle. That's the thing. Okay, well, I mean, but I'm talking like, you know, the dude that you know Yeah, right, who's like 350 pounds and all sweat.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

Yes, right. Yes. Uh I mean, and uh, you know, it it he leaves a swamp. Yes, you know, and just like okay, I'll take the time to clean it.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

You know, it's just nasty, but no, so I'm the bad guy there. I will take full ownership that I am the asshole for not wiping down the machine.

SPEAKER_03 37:03

But like But hell, you were getting up to go get the machine that's not longer being right.

SPEAKER_02 37:07

It's kind of the price that everyone pays for like being a camper. Okay, so I got you gotta pay somehow. I'm gonna get you somehow. Right. Yeah. Yep. Exactly. What are we drinking?

SPEAKER_03 37:25

Man, thanks to you. I'm I'm into the Woodford. I feel like I'm about to watch the damn Kentucky Derby right now. There you go. You're welcome. Thank you. Yeah, you're drinking. Was it Coors Light? What is that?

SPEAKER_02 37:34

Uh my urine sample. No, um I've I think I've preached on this. It's Craig, Craig Elache, which is a spacide single malt scotch whiskey aged 13 years. My friend Clarita Buffalo, who is my one also my sales rep for Nashville Dental, she got it for me when I did uh Laughter on the 23rd floor. And I've got an audition this weekend.

SPEAKER_03 37:55

Oh, do you really?

SPEAKER_02 37:56

I do.

SPEAKER_03 37:56

For what?

SPEAKER_02 37:57

Doubt.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 37:58

That's the if you've seen the movie, it's Meryl Streep, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Amy Adams, and Viola Davis. And it's about uh a Catholic school, parochial school. Meryl Streep and Amy Adams are are nuns, and uh Philip Seymour Hoffman's a priest. And they have their first African American student come in, and he's an altar boy, and he's having problems adjusting because it's 1964. Yeah. And um ultimately the priest is takes a focus on him, and then he's accused of but you never quite know if anything happened or not. It's really intense. It's a great movie. I just watched it when I was down at my mom's house. Titled Doubt. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And so um Yeah, I've never seen it. Yeah. So it's it's kind of the reason why I did a show prior to Doubt. It was either so that's why I did Laughter on the 23rd floor. Although Laughter on the 23rd floor turned out to be an amazing experience, better than I had anticipated that it would be. Right. But but it was kind of like to reintroduce myself to the theater company and say, Yeah, nice. You know, hey, remember me? I did a couple shows with you guys. Same same place or somewhere else. Okay, cool. So um, so yeah, we'll see. You know, it's not the same director. No, different director. Okay. Um this is normally I would say with most shows, it's if I get the part great, if not more free time for myself. This one means a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah, I I kind of really want this one. I got you. And um, and uh I just think it'd be a good dramatic place to develop my range. So I like it. Yeah. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. I just gotta try to figure out if am I gonna go tomorrow or am I gonna go Sunday? Normally I'm the second day because it's as I said in their podcast, I go, I like to show up on the second day, kind of like be the last one and going that this is what you've been waiting for. Just throw those other resumes away. I got it now, man. Good luck, man. You know, I love it. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. So that'll be if it if it happens, it'll be the shows are mid-January to February 1st. That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 40:08

God.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

Yeah. Let's talk about 2026 coming right around the corner. Like No, it's here.

SPEAKER_03 40:14

It's not around the corner.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

Yeah, no, I mean it is it is here. It is here. It's it's fucking crazy, man.

SPEAKER_03 40:20

Yeah, it is it is clanking its spikes and about to step into the batter's box.

SPEAKER_01 40:24

Anything you want to talk about with Tennessee football?

SPEAKER_03 40:27

I just pissed again.

SPEAKER_01 40:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

They said was it the Bama game or I forget which game the commentators were saying, yeah, they pretty much got themselves out of the playoff.

SPEAKER_03 40:40

Yeah, the Oklahoma game. Yeah, the Oklahoma game, that's what it was. Yeah, two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_02 40:43

Yeah, because that's the one I watched right after Clemson. Yeah, they were that was Oklahoma was a maddening game, too.

SPEAKER_03 40:48

I mean, yeah, all three losses have just been just teeth gnashing. Yeah. Just like, are you fucking serious? Yeah. But, you know, I'm used to it. I am.

SPEAKER_02 41:05

I mean, I'm so happy I went to a school where the football expectations are just really low.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

Yeah, it it's it's rough for me. I I'm not gonna lie, but at least I've been able to see them win the big one in my lifetime. Yeah. So it's oh yeah, no, right. You know, so it's like, okay, you know, most people can go their whole lives without seeing it. So, you know, will I ever see an Atlanta Falcons Super Bowl championship? No, I've I've accepted that fucking fact. But um, but yeah, usually my football weekends are are just torture. I usually end up being sick to my stomach at at Saturday night to wake up to watch the Falcons lose on Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 41:42

So are there like foot pro football franchises? Like, there's some that it's like I I'm amazed we just don't talk about them, yet they've been around forever. Like, does anybody ever talk about like the Detroit Lions?

SPEAKER_03 41:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

You know, I mean, I just feel like there's some teams that are out of the world. That's one team that's never talked about.

SPEAKER_03 42:00

You know, they've never um I I don't even know if they've been to a Super Bowl. Right. They may be one of those that hasn't even been. That's what I'm saying. But I mean, yeah, I mean, I get so mad, it's like the Patriots, you know, they're sitting there eight and two, Drake May is gonna be the damn probably MVP of the fucking league. Yeah. And it just it never fails. They they somehow, someway always make the right decisions at the right time. Sure. And it just drives me insane. Yeah. It's like they've all all those owners have made the deals with the devil, and it's just it just drives me insane. Like whatever decision Atlanta makes will fucking burn up in the you know, they're the they're the Richard Pryor.

SPEAKER_02 42:42

I'll tell you, it is like when my friends from Allentown get so amped up about the Eagles, like if the Eagles are having a good moment, it is just so hard for me to get excited about any Philadelphia teams because I've had fans are just brutal. Well, that and I've had my heart broken so many times. Like I tried really getting when I went up there for dental school, like this was been 1990, fall of 91 is when it started. Like the Eagles just made it so hard because uh like two seasons in a row, Randall Cunningham blowing out his knee. So let's oh, let's bring out Jim O'Brien, you know, from the Cubs. Remember him? Super Bowl Shuffle, and and let's bring him in. And then they go really deep, find this guy named Bubble Brister. Oh, yeah, you know, and and uh you know, and then when fucking and then to cross it over to baseball, I mean, God, it was a '93 World Series. Fucking Mitch Williams just blew it in game six. But at least they've done it.

SPEAKER_03 43:36

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 43:38

And they've got wins, you know, in the Eagles have won too in the past what four years. You know, I mean, the Sixers back in their day had Julius Irving and everything. And, you know, it's so they've had their moments, but it's just that, you know, and I'm not a hockey guy, so I'm not going to follow the Flyers. Right.

SPEAKER_03 43:54

But you know, they just Philadelphia. I love hockey when I'm at the game. Yeah. Like I just can't follow it, but when I'm like, if I'm in the arena and it's going on, it's like hell.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

Hey, hey, look, man, if you were a fifth grader in 1980, you were losing your goddamn mind over the US in Lake Placid, what was happening there. Like, I mean, all of us just we were hockey fans that year, man. Fucking crazy. So I watched that. I've the kids and I have watched that movie Miracle that stars Kurt Russell. And and I'm lost, I tell I tell the kids, like, you have no idea what it was like to be alive when that happened. Because for me, that was at a very young age, one of the greatest sporting games I'd had ever witnessed. Just them beating the Soviet year of it. It was just such a we've been pretty lucky.

SPEAKER_03 44:40

You know, our Gen X, the the sports moments that we've been able to witness and and have in our lifetimes is pretty fucking spectacular. Exactly, yeah. I mean, I I know it'll only get better, you know, just because people are getting bigger and stronger and taking better care of themselves. You know, it's not like the Mickey Mantle days of sure showing up, you know, showing up drunk and all that stuff. But but it's just like uh I mean from Daryl Strawberry coked out of his mind. That team, man. Yeah, Daryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden, like, whoa. Damn amphetamines were like legal, like they ain't no telling what was going on. Yeah, seriously. Yeah. If that dugout could talk, right? But uh I I just appreciate what we've been able to witness just growing up and stuff, from from Jordan to you know, Wayne Gretzky to like you name them, or Mike Tyson, like all these greats, yeah, you know, and and we've been able to watch them in in real life, and that's just been like hell, that's probably why I'm just as such a sports fan now. Sure. I don't, I don't the Olympics. Watching Leitner hit that shot live. Like good lord.

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SPEAKER_02 45:51

I lost my goddamn mind. I did too. Allison was visiting, she was still in college at Duke at the time, and she came up to Philadelphia to visit me in dental school. And wasn't it in Philadelphia? It was at the spectrum, and we actually drove down there. Like, I'm thinking, oh, I'll just see a scalper standing on the steps and I'll find me a ticket. I didn't know how that shit worked, you know. Yeah, you know, uh but yeah, we were actually down there before the game started and like trying to find a way in and and everything. And it just when the fucking shot happened, it was just like, oh my well, and the shot before by Sean Woods. I mean it was just like fuck me. We're gonna we're gonna fucking lose this game, really.

SPEAKER_03 46:28

You know, it was seriously, it's the greatest basketball game I've ever seen. Yeah. With everything that was on the line, the performances that happened, the names that were in that game. Oh, absolutely. Holy incredible.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

Yeah, they're yeah, and and that's where kind of the whole one and done and the end of the. Oh, I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

You won't ever you won't ever get that.

SPEAKER_02 46:50

That's kind of ruined that because you don't I mean, I have always said the teams that seem to win the national championships have seniors. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:00

You know, they've got they're either they all know how to play, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

They all know each other's rhythms. Right. You don't get that in one year. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:07

Well, just the and and the the experience. Yeah. Like it just they you can tell that the moment's not too big and they know what to do, and they're able to be that glue guy. And so many teams now just don't have that shit.

SPEAKER_02 47:21

I think there's a lot of parody this season also at the top. Like I'm looking at who like is above, like, I think Duke is number four now, but like I'm what is it, Purdue?

SPEAKER_03 47:30

And yeah, well, that's what I was about to say. So what Alabama did just this past week, they went up to St. John's up in New York and beat them like a drum. Really? Yeah, like bad. And then turned around, came home, and Purdue met them down there and took it to them. So it's just like it's wide open. It's anybody's season. You get to the bracket, man. Yeah. Just get there. Just get to the bracket, yeah. Yeah. But and there's no telling, I don't, I truly don't know who's gonna win the college football. I don't I don't see anyone that's held in the world. Well, it just kind of sticks out, huh? Not to me.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

Yeah. Well, I haven't heard any chatter about anyone who's stuck in the world.

SPEAKER_03 48:09

Yeah, I mean, Ohio State's just been sitting there at number one just because they're so good last year, and obviously they won it, but uh it again, I they're switching up the playoffs to where it's gonna be a little bit more um, it's just gonna be different how they schedule it. Sure. So you won't see as many upsets this year, I don't think. You don't remember like last year, everyone like the lower seed. Oh, like Ohio State was on a mission last year. Right.

SPEAKER_02 48:38

You know, I mean, like they barely got in the fucking. Right, but they just but they fucking made every team, like UT included, made them their bitch. I mean just said, hey. That was a long night. Yeah. I mean, it's I I I was nothing but impressed. Oh, you know, I mean, it just they just schooled everybody.

SPEAKER_03 48:59

Yeah, you know, and football will always be different because uh just it's just a different sport. It is you know, it it once you get that far into it, you know, it's the bigger, the stronger, it's yeah, you know, you're gonna prevail. Yeah. Um, but basketball, man, like who the fuck knows? You know, it just you get to the bracket and see what happens.

SPEAKER_02 49:19

But I love it. Yeah, I'm still I'm almost there. I I am right now still in the names and numbers of the Duke jerseys in in basketball.

SPEAKER_03 49:31

Like I'm oh the other night with UT, like I all the guy like Ziggler and all those guys that I've been used to seeing are gone. I'm like, well, who's that? And who's that? Yeah, and who's that? Yeah, so like I just want Barnes to get to a final four.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

Two is two is Caden uh uh boozer, uh twelve is is Cameron Boozer, twenty-one is Ngumbo, um seven is Sar, I'm super impressed. 14 is Paula Hama. Um just super impressed. And Caleb Foster. Now he for me is the problematic player. Every single he's my capal. He's my Brian Davis if I really want to go back further. He's my Brian Davis. Uh and listen, Brian Davis like scored a you know, I mean, he scored some major shit against uh against um UNL V in that game. But but yeah, he's my cable. Yep. Yeah, he's he I'm just because he started off with such great great, you know, his freshman year was pretty damn good, and then something just happened, something broke in him. And I don't think I think if he finds his confidence again, he'll be fine. But I I don't know what that's gonna take, and especially as you just you know, he g he's getting playing time now, but I'm gonna bet when conference starts, he's gonna be the second point guard. Yeah, you know, because it's gonna be Caden doing the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 51:02

I I gotta, since we're back on Duke basketball again, I I gotta give it to Shire.

SPEAKER_01 51:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:09

I mean, following General Patton, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 51:13

Like he's I mean, he's see that that's kind of where I'm at. I'm look, Coach K is a god and everything like that, and I was there, but I've moved on now.

SPEAKER_03 51:24

Yeah, I I really thought it was going to be more like um when Dean retired. Bill Guthridge took over. Bill Guthrie, and then the uh Jordan's roommate got there.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

Yes, right. Didn't he coach here? Matt.

SPEAKER_03 51:39

Um Darty, not Darty. No, but yes, but him.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

Right.

SPEAKER_03 51:44

You know, like they went through the Doherty, yes, Matt Dougherty. Yeah, they went through that little patch until they got it.

SPEAKER_02 51:49

Yeah, we're also like the players and parents staged a coup on Doherty. Yeah, but I'm just gonna be. But he wasn't winning. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 51:57

But I I really thought, you know, you it's always you never want to follow the legend. Right. You know, and I mean it's UT ladies' basketball did it, you know. No, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 52:08

Poor Holly, you know, I mean, what do you what do you do with Holly Holly Warwick? You're still not even back yet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:14

But uh for him to be doing what he's doing and the way the manner in which he's doing it, like again, it's just they always somehow make the right decisions at the right. Sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

Well, I think there's something to be said about Shire and his recruiting. Like I think that's that's why they I think that's why he's that's his strength, you know, and that's what he did when he was an assistant coach, and he just has been able to translate that and make that work. And I I'll tell you, they call all the the the basketball, the people who played for Duke, they call it the Brotherhood. And they're serious about that.

SPEAKER_03 52:50

Oh, yeah, I don't doubt that one.

SPEAKER_02 52:52

I mean, it's if you've played, you're you're in the brotherhood forevermore.

SPEAKER_03 52:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:56

Now I don't know how they feel about people who now NIL it and go someplace else. Like, I don't know. Who knows?

SPEAKER_03 53:01

You know, but isn't isn't Grant Hill even more involved now, too?

SPEAKER_02 53:05

He's like he's an exec with the with the with the sports program with the athletics department now.

SPEAKER_03 53:10

Can't go wrong there.

SPEAKER_02 53:10

Yeah, I mean, seriously. Like they all just come back home. Yeah. If Later were smart, he'd do this, he'd do the same. Everything Grant's touched has been gold. He has, you know what?

SPEAKER_03 53:19

He has I love him listening to him commentate.

SPEAKER_02 53:21

Yeah, oh he's he should I mean him and Shane Battier should be commentators.

SPEAKER_03 53:26

Yeah.

Auditions, Scotch, And Stage Nerves

SPEAKER_02 53:26

You know, the two of them. Like, I mean, you know, give him a mic and let it go.

SPEAKER_03 53:30

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 53:31

Just put the two of them together and let them do a radio show or something, you know.

SPEAKER_03 53:35

They probably are.

SPEAKER_02 53:38

You know.

SPEAKER_03 53:39

They're just below us on on Podcast.

SPEAKER_02 53:42

They're they're not two drinks in again. They're they're two dunks in again, is what they are. You know, you got Grand Hill going, yeah, watch the Kansas championship game, you know. Who's your daddy? Daddy. So no, it's it's um no, there it's it's it's amazing how they kind of all come back home a little bit, you know. And even you know, and there was well, I mean, uh the the game before UT, Duke did an exhibition game against Johnny Dawkins school, you know. I mean, so it seems like now they're also setting up an exhibition game where a Duke alum who is out there coaching gets to have his ass kicked by his alma mater. Man, last year was Bobby Hurley, man. That Dawkins thing is still weird to me.

SPEAKER_03 54:26

What do you mean? Why he didn't get the the torch.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

I do I again I think I know there's an episode where I've said this. I have some feeling there was some falling out between him and Coach K.

SPEAKER_03 54:39

Yeah. No, he he pissed the wrong son bitch off. Yeah, I don't know who that some bitch was, whether it was Coach K or Booster or whatever. Yeah. But he he pissed him off. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

I mean because I remember speaking of Matt Doherty, there was the one North Carolina game ago that at the end of the game, Johnny Dawkins refused to shake Matt Doherty's hand. Yeah. Because it was like because Doherty had like been a dick during the game and everything like that. Yeah, he'd been a cock throughout the whole game and everything. And John's like, yeah, I'm not gonna shake hands with you. Fuck you. You know.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

Which, okay, you know, I mean, you know, you do boo. It happens.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

Yeah. And uh, but but um, yeah, I don't know what happened. Like, there were a few of the guys that like I think kind of ended ended up on Coach K's Cable was one of them too. Yeah, for a while. Yeah, because yeah, it was he's at Pitt now.

SPEAKER_03 55:32

Yeah, and he I mean he just got his ass handed to him last night. It was hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

He was doing well when he was at Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_03 55:42

Yeah. You know, but then but then he like wasn't right. Like so what was like he had strange.

SPEAKER_02 55:48

Like he had he had a good run, I think, wasn't he at Virginia Commonwealth too at one point? Something like that. Like he took over first dad at ODU or something like Old Dominion, it was something like that. Yeah. Anyway, but no, it um so yeah, you got two players like that where you don't know yet. So anyway, back to I I think now this is a thing where there's an exhibition game where Duke plays against an alumnus' team, yeah, and I don't know, I don't know who all we have left. I'll tell you what, tell you who's disappeared off the grid. Talk about Wojo. Where's Wojo gone? Dude, I have no clue. No idea where Wojo is anymore. And Chris Collins, too. Like, he's no clue.

SPEAKER_03 56:28

You know, like he's no clue. Yeah, like those two guys. Wojo popped up after Marquette a couple times on like ESPN, like after the game, kind of that's kind of that's kind of what everyone's closing show.

SPEAKER_02 56:38

It's kind of like you lose your coaching job, you just end up a commentating game. Seth Greenberg has been great, he's just made a career out of it. He's never been a coach ever again.

SPEAKER_03 56:46

Yeah, you know, you know, he was you know followed like Vitel's kind of steps. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 56:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:50

But but yeah, Wojo popped up a couple times on ESPN to like in that in that TV studio thing, right? And then like Thanos snapped his ass.

SPEAKER_02 57:00

Yeah. And Chris Collins is the same, and I don't see Jason Williams anymore. And uh you know, like he must have been right there. He used to be all over fucking ESPN and CBS.

SPEAKER_03 57:12

Yeah, I think he's still part of the um college, the like the game day.

SPEAKER_02 57:16

Yes, I well I that at and I think he's probably Final Four, you know, during the Tournament Hill show, they drag everybody in for that, you know. Um I'm trying to think of the other another well, like it's Seth. Uh he was a year behind me at Duke. He he's been a big time, I've got him blanking on his name. Davis? Davis. There you go. Yeah, yeah. He's making a killing now. Yeah. Yeah, because he's got his own podcast show and and media thing that he's doing.

SPEAKER_03 57:44

Yeah, he's he's wondering, like, okay, yeah, he was everywhere and then he disappeared. He disappeared, and he's like told ESPN fuck you and then established himself. Yeah, I think he's yeah, no collection plate for Seth Davis. Okay, good deal. No GoFundMe, no gunfund me. No Kickstarter, nope. Anything all right, okay. Are you watching anything? Anything you're excited about, movie-wise, TV show-wise, anything? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 58:07

Should we save that for episode two? Let's do it. Okay. Hey guys. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, so I'm good. There's gonna be a big edit. I get to edit this show now.

SPEAKER_03 58:17

No way you're editing.

Tennessee Football Frustrations

SPEAKER_02 58:18

I'm editing that out. No, um, no, so uh yes. So we're gonna we're gonna like take a break and then we're gonna record the next step. Episode 47 will be next. And then um we'll see what the girls are up to first, and then we'll go to episode 47. And then um you put your sexy blue voice. But in the meantime, folks, you know, the rules stay the same. Please be decent. Absolutely please. We'll talk to you soon. See ya. Cheers. Cheers.