Episode 47 - Streaming, Cinema, And The Albums That Shaped Us

What do you still watch with your mouth open? We start with a rave for Netflix’s Frankenstein—lush, gothic, and confidently made—and follow it to a focused look at Springsteen’s Nebraska, where raw demos beat studio polish. That sparks a bigger question: what makes something worth the theater trip, the subscription, or the rewatch loop? From splitting holiday drops to Broadway-bound prequels, Stranger Things shows how to turn streaming into an event, while Fargo reminds us that star power can’t always save a sagging arc—though John Hamm and Juno Temple make a strong case to keep going.

Acting gets its own spotlight. We celebrate the quiet force of Philip Seymour Hoffman, the electricity of De Niro and Pacino in Heat, and the eerie continuity of IT’s young and adult cast. Dexter Resurrection lands a stacked lineup—Uma Thurman, Neil Patrick Harris, Krysten Ritter, Peter Dinklage—while Vince Gilligan’s new series earns blind faith on name alone. On the galaxy far, far away side, Obi-Wan Kenobi reframes Hayden Christensen with weight and grace, stitching emotional logic between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope without leaning on empty nostalgia.

Then the music talk turns personal and loud. Nevermind as the generational reset. Led Zeppelin as the benchmark—Kashmir as a line in the sand. Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here as twin pillars. Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours, AC/DC’s Back in Black, Clapton’s Nothing But The Blues—albums that smell like a year and feel like a room. We connect those memories to the MTV era of true “mega albums,” where a single performance could tilt the world. The tech and business of streaming changed, but the hunger for capital-M Moments hasn’t.

If you love sharp takes, deep cuts, and a few belly laughs about cable bills and “brestaurants,” you’re home. Hit play, share your all-time start-to-finish album, and tell a friend who still argues for their GOAT. Subscribe, rate, and drop a review so more people can join the debate.

Transcript

Cold Open And Inside Jokes

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Tutoring Sinagan was not taped before a live studio audience. Hey Dave, hey been to any eightieth birthday parties lately? No, sir. Hey friends, it's me, Jeff.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

It's me. It's me. Holy shit, David T.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

Let's hope none of our friends listened to this episode, or maybe some of our former friends. That was me being a little bit of a bitch there.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Oh man. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Um episode 47. 47. 47.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

It's close to the whole 6'7 thing. Do you have to deal with that shit?

SPEAKER_02 0:51

No, what is that all about?

SPEAKER_00 0:52

Uh, you know, did we ever figure that out? Well, it's kind of just like uh if and, and I know there's more to it than that. Luckily, my daughter, uh, because she's at the age to where, you know, she's 14, so it's just like it's part of her thing, but she doesn't even bring it up. I mean, when it when it pops up, we'll like look at each other and snicker about it, but it's not constant to where I I know there's some parents out there who's like, if you fucking say that shit one more time, I'm gonna kill you.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Okay, so there was a recent theory in politics that 6'7 was Zohan Mamdani. Oh six letters in his first name, seven letters in the second name. And I'm like, okay, that's clever. Yeah, I don't think that's it. Yeah, that's definitely not it.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

No. Yeah, that's a fucking reach. Right. But wait, wait to tap into that pop culture thing and seem even hipper than what he is.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

The kids are doing that shit, and meanwhile, I'm going six nine.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

We're already off the rails. A minute forty in.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

We're still drinking the same things that we were in episode seven.

Drinks, Double-Headers, And Guitars

SPEAKER_00 1:59

Everyone can tell when we everyone can tell when we record two in a row. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Yeah, no, it's uh the second episode takes a hit a little bit, you know. Wow, I thought I had only like nine guitars. Now I have eighty, you know. So anyway.

Netflix’s Frankenstein Praise

SPEAKER_00 2:19

Yeah, when I get home, it's like, oh, you you recorded two to three episodes, huh? Right. Maybe. How uh have you seen any good movies lately? I've seen tons of good movies. Uh yeah. The one that has blown me away has been the new Frankenstein on Netflix.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Good to know. I've already seen it twice. Ready to dive back in for the third. Fucking incredible. That's I'm serious. It blew my mind. Like it's one of my favorite stories, just reading. You know, I I I got introduced to it in college, you know, English lit. It was just kind of like, okay. Big Mary Shelley fan. Well, yeah. Um, I mean, it just it it works. Right. I mean, just what a great story. Yeah. I mean, you know, it it dives into a lot of shit. It works. And it's been around for what 200 fucking years? It seems like it. Yeah, I mean, close to it.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

Whatever iteration of Frankenstein.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

But I mean, Mary Shelley's, I mean, it's been around for close toe, yeah. 200 years, man.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

Uh yeah, I would that sounds about right. I think it was mid-1800s.

Theater Trips And Springsteen Film

SPEAKER_00 3:29

Yeah, mid-1800s. Yeah. And she wrote the damn shit at 18. Yeah. Um you know more than I do. Well, uh again, it's just one of those things. It's like it's it's been a part of me to where I like I enjoyed this story. And so if it get ever gets bastardized, I like I get pissed off about it. But man, like, perfect director, perfect casting, perfect visuals, just unreal. Unreal. I'm telling you, I can't say enough about it. The guy that they did for the the actual monster, he did just an unbelievable job. I want this guy to be the next Batman in the DC, like all of it. Right. I I just the it was so so well done. Because uh it's Del Toro that has his director. Okay, so just really gothic and and uh very detailed, and just ah gosh, it was brilliant, man. Seriously, watch it. Excellent. Yeah, that's been the that's been my biggest movie, but I I'm I I guess I'm a big promoter of Netflix right now, but my nipples are hard for stranger things.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

Have you gone to a theater to see anything?

SPEAKER_00 4:39

The the last theater movie I saw was Black Phone 2.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

Okay. We just saw Deliver Me From Nowhere, the Springsteen movie. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

The Bear.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

The Bear. Uh, really good. It was really good. It apparently tanked at the box office.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

Well, uh it's one of those things now, it's like, man, it it's gotta, it's gonna have to take a lot for me to get a few.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Yeah, if it's not like a DC or Marvel or Star Wars or you know.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

I can wait.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

Yeah, I can wait till streaming. Yeah, but it was a good movie, really, really good movie.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

It's and he's so talented. Yeah, he you know I still can't get over him having brown eyes though. Right?

SPEAKER_01 5:13

You said that in the previous in uh episode 45.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

Yeah, it's so weird.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

But uh so tell me about it.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Well, no, it was uh so for those who haven't seen it, like there was the album that came between the river and and be born in the USA, which is Nebraska, and it's very much a somber hymn in an acoustic guitar, you know, um songs like Atlantic City and Highway 99, and and um interestingly enough, it was the very first it was the first Springsteen album I owned.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

Um Columbia house I didn't send my thing in on time. And I got hit with the album, and I'm like, okay, this is interesting.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

Your penny got you eight CDs, your tastes.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Listen, man, I knew how to milk that system better in college. In college, how many fraternity brothers P.O. boxes did I use?

SPEAKER_00 6:03

You know, my deep down I still have a fear like I'm gonna get like a late library card. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. For the Paula Abdul album. Exactly. Right.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

Straight up, baby. Um anyway, um, so yeah, that was that was so that was the first time I own. So it's about the making of that album and how he stuck to his guns with it in terms of production. And you know, he tried recording it with the whole band, and he's just I just don't like how this album feels. He's like, I this these demos is what I want. Like, don't even produce them, like just that. Wow, okay, just make it that release this.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

Was it it so it wasn't like about his whole life? It's no just that one particular moment.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

One particular moment, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Wow, okay. That intrigues me more, actually. I actually want to see it.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

No, I I think I think for someone like Bruce Springsteen, you can't do him justice with just one movie. Like you'd have to make a mini-series, you know, to do his whole life, or or any artist of that stature. Like, I mean, the way they did the Billy Joel documentary, you know, they they did that very well. Um, and we we can talk about that too in in a minute. But um I I thought this was a good like this was his pivotal moment where he was he was already big, but he was on the verge of becoming huge, right? So on the verge of becoming the boss. He was the boss before that. Really? Yeah, because I've been calling him boss throughout the whole movie. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, he was the boss before that.

SPEAKER_00 7:40

I think it and this is kind of a weird off topic, but you know, with the way society is now, like I always feel like movies and shit, they're like, oh, it bombed. And it's like, man, I didn't even know that that movie was even out there. Right. Like with us growing up, man, it was every other commercial was the was the big preview of the movie and the McDonald's cups, and yeah, they went full bore. Right. And now they don't do that, and then they're just like, Well, I can't believe this movie tanked. Star Wars action figures, yeah. You know, yeah. Right. But now it's just like I don't understand why this movie tank is like, fuck, I don't think anybody knew. Nobody knew it was out. Yeah, you know, and I don't blame them because everything is expensive.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

But no, and Jeremy Strong from Succession also was in it. The eldest boy. Yeah. Yeah. He he um he was in played um Springsteen's manager and co-producer John Landau. Oh, and was really He's a great actor. We'll talk about two just it's great when you see like a piece where two acting talents just fucking are fill the screen. Well, kind of like that dialogue scene between De Niro and and uh Pacino in the game in Heat. Oh yeah, right, the diner scene in heat.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

Just let it rip, man. Just put it on repeat for me.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

Right, yeah. Like that's that's acting. Like that's a masterclass right there. Right. You know, you know it's magic just as soon as they see magic. Or as I was talking in the last episode, doubt. You know, you got Meryl Streep, Amy Adams, Viola Davis, and Philip Seymour Hoffman. Two Academy Award winners, two academ well, three Academy Award winners, one Academy Award nominee, and like it is a Tour de Force masterclass in acting.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

Philip Seymour Hoffman, I think, had one of the greatest ranges of an actor, especially of our generation.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

I have said this over and over again about him.

Acting Masterclasses And Hoffman

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Like it didn't matter what he did. Comedy, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

He did so much by doing so little. Like he could just kind of give you, he doesn't have to wildly gesticulate with his hands or anything like that. Or he just can stand there and like give you this look.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

Hands down, the greatest mission impossible villain.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

Okay, I've never I've not got past the first one. So yeah. But um hands down. Okay, that'll give me reason to watch more.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

Yeah, trust me on that one. Funny is all hell, and along came Polly. Yes, that's the movie I forgot about.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

Like we talked about.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Oh my let's go.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

I sharded.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Yeah, just his opening scene when he walks in and slips and just falls. I mean, like he brings in the physical physical comedy, and then on top of everything.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

Did you ever see him in Flawless? Yes, yes, come on now. Oh fuck, man. Him and De Niro. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Just yeah, yeah, and then turn around and be in Hunger Games.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

Yes, kill it. Yes, and nail it kill it.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Sad man.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

And then there's another one, um, Ides of March with Ryan Gosling that he's in.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

CJ hasn't seen that, and um I'm like gonna hog talking.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Okay, so the play is called Farragut North and Farragut and and Oak Ridge Playhouse did it about 10 years ago.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

It's an incredible movie.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

I'm waiting for someone to do that again because I'm like, okay, I missed my opportunity on doing that play. It's incredible. And I would just play the Philip Seymour Hoffman role. Yeah. That's all I mean. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

From start to finish, that's one of those movies you're on the edge of your seat. Yeah. It's like watching uh the uh No Way Out back. Yeah, with Costner and Sean Young, yeah. Yeah, and Hackman. Yes, yeah. It's just like just like holy shit.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

And then they throw a left throw a curveball at you at the very end, you know. I don't know where this is going. What the fuck happened here?

SPEAKER_00 11:15

You get up taking your seat.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

Right. Sean Young, what happened to her?

SPEAKER_00 11:24

Who knows? She didn't get Catwoman in the next one. No, she went crazy trying to audition for it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Wasn't she on like Oprah with a whip and shit? I have no idea. I forget. Like, yeah, I remember like she'd be walking all around LA dressed in like the vinyl suit and everything. And like, and everyone's just like, okay, she's out of her fucking mind.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

It's okay. You know, go to the next part and kill it, you know. But don't like she was mad, she wasn't a Pfeiffer, man.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

She would have been a good catwoman, though. I could have seen her being a good cat woman.

SPEAKER_00 11:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

I would have had no qualms. Zero qualms. But I'm fired up about Stranger Things. Like, that's gonna be the biggest thing culture-wise.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

It is, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

For the way that they've split it up during the holidays.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

I mean, I feel like I have prepped for this, like, because you know, we've watched the series, and then when we were in London uh a year and a half ago, we saw the West End prequel. Yeah, you know, on the West End.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

So I didn't know this about the prequel. Sorry, I'm talking now. I didn't know this about the pr in the prequel, but Victor went to high school with Hopper. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

And yeah, they're all the younger versions of them.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

See, I didn't realize see the way that it kind of presented is like he was before them. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean number one. Yeah. Yes. It was like he was he wasn't in high school at their age.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

I'll tell you what, if if if you guys end up in New York and go see it on when it because it's gonna open on Broadway soon if it hasn't already. Oh, I'm sure it has. But the tech that they did for in the West End was just like it blew me away. Right. And um and the kid, the kid that I knew from here that that was in the in it, um Chase Brown, he um he played what's the Renona Whiters writers character's name? What's her name?

SPEAKER_00 13:14

Not Nancy.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Whatever. Played her first husband. Played her first husband. Oh, okay. Yeah.

90s Thrillers, Casting What-Ifs

SPEAKER_00 13:19

Yeah, her name was Joyce. Yeah. Yeah. I like it.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

I almost feel like I gotta watch the whole series again. We've been doing it.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Really? We're in we're in have you seen the first five minutes?

SPEAKER_01 13:28

No.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

Okay, so they they put out the first five minutes like a week and a half ago. And my my daughter, I didn't know that they did it. My daughter came home and just is like making a beeline to the TV because she saw it on her phone or whatever. She just like she knew that I was just gonna be foaming at the moment. Right, right. I was like, what are you doing? She's like, just shut up. What are you doing? Just shut up. It was like, no, I'm already in season one. You don't have to start like shut up, dude. And put it on. And I was just sitting in there in my living room, my mouth open. Like, what they're gonna do, I I'm I'm fired up, man. I can't believe it. But to have have these shows out during Thanksgiving, the second part of it being Christmas, and then the finale on New Year's Eve night. Well done. So brilliant. Yeah, well done. Well fucking done.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

We are watching, we were watching Fargo, the series. Okay. And we got never done that. We got to season, it's great. We got to season four, which is in the takes place in the past, and is not in Fargo. And it's it's anyone who has watched it, it's the Chris Rock season.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

So Chris Rock in a dramatic role, which oh okay.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Yeah, I'm fine with that. Okay.

Stranger Things Anticipation

SPEAKER_01 14:42

I no totally mad props to him. He's fantastic and everything. It's just an uninteresting story arc. So we kind of stalled in season four, and we're just like, I just don't think I want to watch this anymore. And I'm like, Yeah, but we gotta get to season five because it's got fucking John Hamm and it's got Juno Temple. And if John Ham is you know, so you got Don Draper and Keeley, yeah, you know. I mean, so I mean we gotta see, I mean, we gotta do season five and then we're done.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

I'm truly shocked John Ham isn't everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

I know, right?

SPEAKER_00 15:12

I don't and I don't know if it's just because he just doesn't want to do certain things or what.

SPEAKER_01 15:17

Yeah, but after you do like how many seasons was Mad Men? Like it was like ten seasons or something like that. It really was. After you do a 10 10 seasons of a series, don't you kind of like probably have it like fuck you money at that point? He probably did. You know, and like then you can kind of pick and choose. I would like to think after any season that's that louded and and that success any show that's that louded and successful. I mean, you know, Seinfeld Friends, those are kind of those are rip big outliers in terms of success. But I mean, you know, with the syndication plays a hand in everything. But but like Mad Men, which is that's a totally different thing. You know, I don't know. I you know, I know this is something that the Screen Actors Guild has been fighting a lot about whenever they go on strike, has been about the streaming rights, you know, and who gets you know, it's kind of like how musical artists only get paid like you know, two pennies for every time their song is streamed on on Spotify or something like that, you know. Um no, but but anyway, so that's as far as we got in Fargo. So if we got to season four in Fargo, and then I said, I was like, okay, well, what can I find else for us to watch? Well, we were gonna start Welcome to Dairy, but we don't want to wait a week for each episode. So we're gonna wait till all the episodes are out and then we'll watch that.

SPEAKER_00 16:30

I totally understand.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

And and uh I've seen the first two episodes. We did we saw the first one. Okay, yeah. We saw um but we then as a precursor to that we watched it chapter one and it chapter two.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

Phenomenal right it one and two as far as casting goes.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

They nailed it, just fucking nailed it. I'm gonna tell you where they really nailed it was the casting of well that, but the guy who played both the young and older version of Eddie Kasbrack. Yes. They like found the kid and aged him. It's crazy 30 years.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

Yeah. Like all like their their mannerisms and everything. Like they found the exact same kids. And the kid of Eddie Kasbrack, he went on, he was in um uh Shazam.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Yes, he was. Yes, right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, phenomenal. I mean uh Yes. Yes, between Eddie and I don't know the uh haters character's name, but uh Richie Tojer. Yeah, Eddie and Richie. I mean, their whole art, yeah, it's just incredible. It's beautiful, it's it's it's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

No, they it's so fun.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

They nailed it, and it's just awesome. Like, I I we what we did the same thing. It was like, well, we gotta prepare ourselves for the show. So we we we did we did it in reverse. We watched the movies and then watched episode one.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

Well, that's what we did too. We watched the movies and when then we watched episode and we're like, oh, you mean we've got to wait a week? Yeah, like yeah, we don't do that. Yeah, so I hear you. So I said, Okay, so what can I find? Us oh, Dexter Resurrection.

SPEAKER_00 18:07

Okay, I've never gotten into Dexter.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

Okay, we I the you know the with Virginia, you know, we watch we watch Showtime was like the one thing I was like, I'm not paying for, damn it. Well, now it's a part of Paramount. Oh, okay. So and like a sidebar on that is Showtime even around anymore? It's a part of Paramount.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

It was acquired by Paramount. All right, so you have to have the Paramount app in order to have Showtime shows. Okay, yeah. Um, but like I have bundled all my shit together now because like I just look, you know, they talk about they just had an article about how streaming costs continue to go up, you know, and I'm and I'm like, I'm gonna bundle all this shit together as much as possible. And so like I got the whole Disney Hulu ESPN right you know, package together. Like it's like five five packages all in one.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

We've done a complete 360 being back to cable.

Fargo Fatigue And Star Power

SPEAKER_01 18:59

Right. Exactly. Yeah, isn't it yeah? Funny how that happens.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Because I keep looking at my cable bill every month, and I pay 400 bucks a month for my cable bill.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

What?

SPEAKER_01 19:09

Yeah. Cable, internet, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:12

Oh, okay. Yeah, but like cell phone too?

SPEAKER_01 19:15

No. TDS is who I have. Okay. And I keep wondering, like, okay, so when do I drop like the pay stations that I have, like HBO and everything? I'm like, okay, now is the time because I bundled everything together. Nothing I have is because of its connected. I get it through my cable provider or anything. Because I'm I'm thinking of even dropping basic cable. The only reason I have even cable service is because for the sports games.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

I'm the same way. I I have DirecTV. Yeah. I'm the same way. Yeah. It's direct TV.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

I'm like, if you can just guarantee me there's a streaming.

SPEAKER_00 19:46

But now the ESPN thing has got me like, yeah, okay. Because ESPN would them signing with the SEC. Yeah. Like, okay, I'm gonna be able to see whatever the fuck I want to now.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

Yeah. So if you could just guarantee me, like, there's a streaming channel. That I can watch a s a live sports game on, then then I I can drop my cable bill entirely. So but I'm not there yet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

I'm still weary. There's gonna be that time that I cut everything off in the biggest game of my lifetime. You're right. No, you're absolutely right. And then I'll be at like Twin Peaks on North Shore, be like, where is the game? Change channel TV five to channel 16.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Is Twin Peaks still a thing?

SPEAKER_00 20:32

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

Because I know Hooters is not. Does anybody go to Hooters anymore? To our listeners, does anybody go to Hooters anymore?

SPEAKER_00 20:40

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Like I you seriously, in the one in Alcoa, like you would find like the Blunt County Dental Society having lunch there.

SPEAKER_00 20:49

Oh man, like growing up, man, like being at UT like dime wing night was like hell yes. Yeah, I get boobs and like I haven't been to Hooters in a seriously.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

It feels like a decade. It probably is. Probably more since I've been to Hooters. Anyway, but Twin Peaks.

SPEAKER_00 21:08

I've never I honestly I've never even been to one. I know of him, but I've never even been to one of them.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

I think like twice is I've been, and it's been a really long time since the last time I went. Um The Brestaurants.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

The Brestaurants.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Um, so yeah, so we're watching Dexter Resurrection now, which follows Dexter New Blood, which follows Dexter. All right. Um, Dexter's really good.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

Um I heard Dexter was like that Game of Thrones realm. Like it was phenomenal and then last season, like shit the bed.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

The the original season closer kind of shit the bed. I guess a little bit. Like you're going, are you fucking kidding me, really? You know, but then it sets itself up for the sequel seasons that have happened, and I'm like, okay, so now Dexter Resurrection. We found a way to keep this going, didn't we? But it's really good. It's I mean, he's it just it's really fucking good. And and in this season, Dexter Resurrection, like you've got Uma Thurman's in it, you've got Neil Patrick Harris is in it. Um you've got Kirsten Ritter.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

You had me at Uma, dude.

Weekly Drops, IT Rewatch, Derry

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Yeah, I know. You had Kirsten Ritter is in it, and she doesn't Oh really? Yeah, she and she doesn't have that one expression on her face that she has all throughout Jessica Jones. She actually shows a lot of range in this. Uh you got um she showed range in breaking.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

You got uh uh little guy.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Um Me.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

Little guy.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

Uh uh, I drink it, I know things. Um Peter Dinklage. Yeah. What a apologies to his last name. Ap uh yeah, apologies to all of our um dwarf listeners and whatnot. Uh we wholly support the dwarf community. Um we wholly support the dwarf community. I've got nothing else besides that. Anyway, Peter Dinklage. But it's, you know, his character, I don't like the way he's acting in this character because he has some roles that he's played in the past where it's like it's like this, he's trying to do this emoting thing that just like really comes off as unconvincing. He does it also in this character. I almost compare him to uh Bolivar in um in uh X-Men Days of Future Past. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

You know I get it. I get what you're saying there.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

Yeah. It's kind of a similar role that he's playing in this.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Oh, I'm sorry. I knew I needed a timeout with that one. That was fucking hilarious. I don't necessarily really need a timeout. I was just kidding. That's okay. Um the the one uh there was another movie that's Dexter.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

That's what's that's what Dexter Resurrection is. It's really good. And um, and so that's what we're watching now.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Have you seen or heard about the the new show that's been out of from the creator of Breaking Bad? Jeffrey told me it is phenomenal. Oh, that's what everyone keeps like any anywhere That's our next show. Anywhere however I see it, it's like a hundred percent Rotten Tomatoes, like all of it.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

And I if they've dropped all the episodes now, it will probably be our next show. I I still don't even know what the fuck it's about. I don't either. I don't care. It's Vince Gilligan. I trust him. But like the thing that I wrote about is like look, they could have an episode where Pinkman shows up and just goes, bitches, that's all I'm in.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

Science, bitch.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

It's science. This is my domicile, and not be harassed. Bitch.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Man, what a great show. That that is definitely a top fiver, man. Yeah. If not, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

But anyway, no, yeah, Pluribus.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

Yeah, yeah, okay. That's the name. But it's like I read a little synopsis of it, and it's just like this this person wants to take happiness out of the world. And that was it. Like, oh, okay. And but it's supposed to be great.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

What?

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Yeah, so that's probably after Dexter Resurrection we'll watch. Now, solo, I have started watching re-watching Obi-Wan Kenobi. Oh, that's great. Um, that's a great season. That's a really great season. Yeah. Uh it's pretty powerful. Solid, man. It's it's it's up there with Andor.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's solid, solid.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

Yeah. Like they did, they did they did so many people right in that.

SPEAKER_00 25:40

It's like they were like, you know what, we need to correct a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

Yeah, yeah. They they kind of were able to uh retcon a few. Well, I mean, not that if they needed to, but just flesh out some of the stuff between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. Yep. You know? Oh, yeah, totally nerd out.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

And like, and I I love totally nerded out that.

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SPEAKER_01 25:59

I love that like all the actors who've been in the movie, like they just they're all happy to come back on board.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

Oh the full embrace of Hayden Christensen is so cool. Yes, and that's what I love the most is that going from somebody that's been made fun of forever about his dialogue of sand gets to redeem himself.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Like, that's what I love about this.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

Yeah, he's like, Yeah, I'm I'm fucking Darth Vader and ain't no one else that can say that shit besides James Earl Jones. Right. That's it. He's not with us anymore. Yeah, it's like it's me, bitch.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Right, bitch. That's where you need to get uh Aaron Paul to play.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

I know I brought it up to you on another episode, but he threw out the first pitch at uh Cubs game.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

That's right, you told me that.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

Yeah, and he his number was 66, and I was like, You are the man.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

Like, yeah, you're the man.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

Like if you're able to have a Cubs jersey with your last name on it with the number 66 on there, like have I ever told you my variation of that when it comes to Duke basketball? I know it's in an episode somewhere that I talked about this. Probably. So I always, you know, like during as I uh have referred to in other episodes, the the like the mid-2000s, really during the Reddick years, when it seemed like during the first half, like it's always this cat and mouse game and everything like that, and like you let the other team stay close or even let them get ahead and everything like that.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Okay, halftime is order sixty-six.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

Is what no, it's execute order sixty-eight. And I'll tell you why that because back in 2002, I noticed like Duke, there were a lot of close games that Duke would either win or lose, but it was always like 70 to 67, or they would lose 67 to 69 or something like that. And I then I came up with the theory and I said, the first team that gets to 68 wins the game. Yeah, and it has like there have been some outliers, but like it may happen once every three seasons that that it happens. So I remember telling Jaclyn, she's like six, and I go, Yeah, the first team that gets to 68 is gonna win the game. She goes, but what if nobody gets to 68? And I said, Jacqueline, the team with the most points wins. She didn't know what to do with that. Dropping knowledge, dropping knowledge everywhere. But anyway, so I so I always imagined like they're playing this cat and mouse game, and it's the end of the first half, and Kay goes, Execute order 68.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

He pulls up the hood. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

You know, execute order 68, my young Jedi friend. Do it. Do it. Do it.

SPEAKER_00 28:45

Oh man. Alright, so you intrigued me when we were talking about like things to talk about. And you brought up music, and I was like, God, you're gonna talk about concerts again. But then you said Albums.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

Albums. Let's talk about great albums. And there's no judgment on any album. Like it's all subjective.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

No, I so there me being even though I'm a Gen Xer, I'm a big 90s kid.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Sure, yeah.

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SPEAKER_00 29:09

Um, you know, I'm I'm like the the last of the Gen Xers. But never mind with Nirvana and the grunge kind of push, that was my like my eye opening to everything. You know, I I you know you're gonna get pissed at this, but I mean I was like 11 when that fucking thing came out. Okay. So it was just like when I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit, it was just like, oh the world went crazy. I was like, oh, okay. This is music.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

When Smells Like Teen Spirit came out, it was like, I'm sorry, you you say Michael Jackson just put out an album a few months ago. Right. Everyone forgot about dangerous, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

You know, like immediately I went from wearing like sports stuff to it's like, well, I'm now wearing flannel and Doc Martin's motherfucker. And go ahead and say something about it. Right. And I'm gonna have this have my house key that's on my necklace. It's like, yes, this is here we are. I mean, from top to bottom, from from come as you are to smells like teen spirit to poly, like all those songs on that on that damn album. It's like, oh, okay. Yeah, and that made but that made me go everywhere. Sure, yeah. It was just like, okay, how did we get here? Right. You know what I mean? It like it allowed me to open up my brain to where I was just like, okay, musically I want to go and see things and know things and and go, and then all of a sudden that led me to Almond Brothers and Led Zeppelin and all that fun.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Sure. And that's that's kind of how music always was for me. It's like I got into a band and then it made me look to what influenced this band. Right. Like what are the pr antecedents?

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

Whatever you say. Yes, antecedents. That's what I would say. Yeah. Or um the the the influences on this particular artist. Um, so I was never the biggest Cobain fan. I came to Cobain, I finally bought into his music much, much later after the fact and everything. Um is it for Grunge? Is it like being a Stones and Beatles fan? You're either a Pearl Jam or a Nirvana fan.

Obi-Wan, Vader, And Redemption

SPEAKER_00 31:26

No, not for me. Okay. Like for me, like again, the the even the next one, like 10 and Mook and Mookie 10 and Mookie, like Pearl Jam still. Like, whenever I hear uh I'm still alive by Pearl Jam, I am Fucking Jeremy's.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

I love Jeremy. That video all of it. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 31:44

Yeah, like and again, it was just for whatever reason, they were they that and I know every generation has it. Sure, they were fucking playing music that was from my soul somehow, and that that's what always made an album for me. It was just like every single song was just like, yeah, okay. I was fucking thinking that shit when I was looking at myself in the mirror the other day. Right, exactly. Yes, you remember how you felt when you heard that song. Yes, and and it's still to this day, like some of those songs can generate smells, yeah. It can it's it's weird how music can do that. Yeah, and certain albums have always done that, but like again, like you were talking about going back, like all of a sudden, it's like okay, this Eric Clapton guy is pretty cool. Yeah, these yard birds, wow, this is neat. Derek and the Domino's, Derek and Domino's, and like, oh, this Miles Davis guy, holy shit. Right, yeah, kind of blue. Right. Yeah, and and it just kept going and it kept going and kept going. But for for me, it was, and um I'm sure the people around my age will would probably say the same shit, but it would that was the album. Okay, that was truly the album, you know. Granted, I think the greatest album ever is Led Zeppelin, but you know the first one? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

I just I don't think Led Zeppelin ever made a bad song. I can't I would agree with you on that. Like that's their older stuff, like I'm talking like when they were like kicking.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

I think what you can appreciate about Led Zeppelin is they knew when to stop. They truly and they never went back. Nope. Nope.

SPEAKER_00 33:26

And I it's so impressive.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:29

Like so impressive.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Our drummer died, he was a part of our energy. We are no more. We are no more.

SPEAKER_00 33:35

Yep. Uh it's just incredible.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

I had uh my fraternity brother JD recently uh saw the Jason Bonham experience. And I'm like, is that like a Zeppelin tribute thing that the son of John Bonham Dot does? Because Jason Bonham was also tied with like Zeppelin got together back in the mid-80s to do a performance. It was like the 40th anniversary of Atlantic Records or something like that. And so like Zeppelin got back together for that. I saw Zeppelin at Live Aid. Um, well, that was 1985, was Live Aid. I think this Atlantic Records thing came after that. But so I saw Zeppelin there, you know.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

I saw whatever they did in the 90s.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

Yeah, the or the big reunion they had at the O2 and everything and whatnot, you know. And like they're they're like other bands where promoters have just look, we'll throw billions of dollars at you. If you like they've done the same to Roger Waters and David Gilmore, like if you two can just put aside your differences and just fucking go tour and spink Floyd, this will be huge, you know.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

Um but they're like, nope.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

No, Zeppelin, Zeppelin, Zeppelin's pretty consistent, yeah. I think Zeppelin won, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

Yeah, that for me that's just just what's your song by Zeppelin? It's cashmere.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

Word man, cashmere like a motherfucker. I'm I'm I'm it's my that's my song. That is my song.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Like it no matter what it's involved with, whether they somehow m intertwined it to a Godzilla movie or a commercial or it's just that be oh I stop. I stop. Yeah, yes, yeah. Because if if if you are using it, or if it's involved, it's it's igniting me to being like, okay, this is some serious shit. Yeah. Like you don't fuck around with this song. Yeah. Like you're we're not selling American Eagle jeans with this. No.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

No.

SPEAKER_00 35:41

You know what I mean? Right. Like it's uh it's a thing.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Right.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

I mean, the stairway to heaven's an easy answer.

SPEAKER_01 35:47

I don't want to hear it when I walk into Spirit of India.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

I better not be ordering a damn latte at Starbucks and hearing that shit. That's so good. It's a great song, man. It's just it's so start-to-finish great song.

SPEAKER_01 36:17

So good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

I mean, and and yes, you can be damn dog thumping fucked up in here Zeppelin, and it puts you in a whole other realm.

Sports, Streaming, And Cable Costs

SPEAKER_01 36:29

I tell you what, one of the greatest moments I had was one day I was driving the kids to school, and I said, Juliana actually she was sitting in the front in the passenger seat in the front. She turns to Jacqueline, she goes, What do you want to listen to on the drive in? Okay, so first thing, she's asking her sister, being polite, what do you want to listen to on the drive in?

SPEAKER_00 36:46

So kudos to that.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

Kudos to that. Well, well-mannered child. Right. Um, now just get your fucking diploma. Um and uh Jaclyn without missing a beat goes, Led Zeppelin back black dog. Oh man. And I'm like, Okay, my work is done.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

Yeah. What else is there left to do?

SPEAKER_01 37:02

My work here is done.

SPEAKER_00 37:03

Yep. I I had a very similar experience. So my son loves music and he goes in and out of music, and and I appreciate his tastes and everything, but but he's my son looks like me, and but he's my ex-wife. Uh just like he is, right? In all the good ways. Sure. Not necessarily saying that. I get that. No, yeah, no, yeah. Like, yeah, yeah. But my daughter from start to finish is me. It's so bizarre. Got it. And like she loves the red hot chili peppers, like she's all into this stuff. Similar experiences, like Black Dog came on Jack FM riding down the road. Jack's a great station. Oh, yeah, it's fucking um, yeah. Thank you, Jack FM. Thank you, Jack FM. Yeah, yeah. Especially when they make random Knoxville jokes. Right. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. You know, like when I hear that dude say something about Kingston Pike, and I'm like, oh shit, that was so cool. Like, whoever did your writing is great. Right. But all of a sudden, my daughter knows the words. Yeah. And she's singing along with it. And it's just like, okay, like you just said, my job's done. It's like, I don't know how the hell we fucking got here, but the fact that you know that shit, we are good to go. Yeah. It's good stuff, man. I think they're the greatest band ever.

SPEAKER_01 38:22

I mean, I would put I would put them up there, yes. I would put them up there.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

I I've never heard a bad song. There's some I may skip, you know. They may be like, man, I'm not, I'm not fucked up enough to hear that, but it's damn good.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

Yeah. And there's some, honestly, that I know I've heard them on classic rock ad nauseum. Yes. I don't know the title of the song. Correct. You know? Yes. Like there's the I think it's the ocean that kind of sounds a little bit like Black Dog. Yes. You know, steals the same guitar riff. I think that's what it is. But I don't know all of the tit. I just know that I've heard these songs forever. Bomb, bump, bump, bada bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bada don. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 39:05

But it just in it's just awesome. My favorite band ever is Almond Brothers, is just because it's always it just does something.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

It's the best of everything for you. It is.

SPEAKER_00 39:13

Yeah. But Led Zeppelin is to me is hands down the best band.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:18

I just I, you know, okay, so Zeppelin One is your throw like money at like Zeppelin.

SPEAKER_01 39:24

Zeppelin One is your other album.

SPEAKER_00 39:26

Yeah. Yeah. Uh and you know, never mind. And and those are just the one that also got me was Eric Clapton's Nothing But the Blues.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:39

And this was, you know, this is late 90s for me, but it was his like I I'm gonna go back to the yeah, I'm gonna go back to what fucking drove me wild and why I picked up the guitar. Sure. Man, that's so good. Right. It's so good. I I hear you, man. Yeah. When he's sitting there talking about Slow, you know, when he's his nickname is Slow Hand, and you know, I he came into Knoxville at that time during his that album. And you're just sitting there watching it, and it's like, how the fuck is that sound coming from what he's doing? Yeah. How's that happening? Yeah. And talk about you know, a tortured soul too. Sure. Oh, yeah. I mean the thing with the kid and everything. Right. And that's when it's Nevin, yeah. No wonder he loves the blues so much. I mean, the guy's a fucking a walking blues song.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Yeah. Yeah. Um heroine survivor, the whole thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:37

Right. Um, you know, those are those are my big ones, I think.

SPEAKER_01 40:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:41

Um, and there's probably uh uh Tom Petty Wildflowers was a good one for me.

SPEAKER_01 40:47

Everyone goes to that album. I'm still back at um Jesus, fuck uh the one uh Free Fallen, the one that one, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

Yeah, his his ultimate one.

SPEAKER_01 40:58

Yeah, Jeff Lynn produced it.

SPEAKER_00 41:00

Wow Wildflowers for me is because it, you know, it'd been a while.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 41:04

And there were songs on there that just kind of shocked me.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

Like the first time, no shit. The first time I heard Wildflowers of like being in love.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

My band used to do You Wreck Me.

SPEAKER_00 41:13

Okay, yeah. Fucking great song.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

Yeah, right. Three-chord song. I mean awesome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:20

But first time I heard Wildflowers, I I mean I got teary-eyed. I was just like, man, this is this is what being in love's like.

SPEAKER_01 41:27

Full moon fever. That's the time. That is that is the one.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

I can see it now.

SPEAKER_01 41:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:31

I can yeah, the beige and the red and the blue. The red and the blue and the black. Yeah. Yes. Um but yeah, I mean I it it goes back to classic people and stuff. Sure. Absolutely. And it all depends on what's going on in your life and when you hear it, you know, it always is. Yeah. And that's what's so cool about fucking music.

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SPEAKER_01 41:51

There are albums for me that I think are for me, just the pinnacle great album that like there's no album that compares to this, and it and it just it's there in this lofty reaches for me. Dark side of the moon. I'm gonna start there. Like, and I almost can throw alongside of that wish you were here. Like it just you you book it, you just put those two side by side.

SPEAKER_00 42:14

Well, I was about to say it's almost one album.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

It is, and it's just I it's just amazing. And it's funny because in the albums leading up to Dark Side of the Moon, particularly the album Metal, you hear that it's coming. Right. Like they're they're gonna get there.

SPEAKER_02 42:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

And then it's just they and I also loved about Pink Floyd is that they always kind of they didn't do a lot of interviews, they maintained a level of anonymity, and I just love it when a band does it, like they come along, they drop their album, they go away, and the album just blows up the world. Yep, you know.

SPEAKER_00 42:46

I agree. I I mean like Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, I really do feel like if they really pushed it, yeah, and like we're like, well, we're just gonna fucking go top 40. But then they would have been.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

But then you have a Pink Floyd album like The Wall, which is 20 songs, songs, real not extended instrumental pieces, songs. And you're like, This is the group that did Dark Side of the Moon, not seven years before, you know, like and like the just how quickly they got to doing a for all intents and purposes, a musical, yeah or an opera, you know, whatever you want to call it. Like exactly what it is. Like it's their version of Tommy. Yeah, you know, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

Um which came first? Tommy. Did it really? Oh, yeah. Tommy was well then it it blew Tommy out of the I because I've always came down, I was under the understanding that Tommy was.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

Tommy's a great album, but I like Pink Floyd. I like the wall better. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:35

It's um definitely.

SPEAKER_01 43:38

I will I will also and for me, a lot of to me, what I feel are the pinnacle albums kind of fall in the 70s a bit. Um Fleetwood Mac Rumors Start to Finish, not a bum song on that on that album. Not at all. Um for me on a personal note, Elo's Time, that was the album that changed me. I got it. It was it was a bunch of things. It was I was about to stop taking piano lessons, and two things happen. One, there was the TV series to the movie Fame. Okay, and in the movie Fame, and then in the TV series, there's an actor named Lee Carreri who plays a character named Bruno Martelli, who's a pianist keyboardist and everything. I'm like, oh, what are those things that he's playing? So I'm introduced to synthesizers. Okay, and then the ELO Time album, which is the hit on it, friends, is Hold on Tight, if you've heard that song.

SPEAKER_00 44:35

Um mind blown at that point.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

But it's all otherwise, it's an album, a wash in synthesizers, and I'm like, oh, okay, and I was never the same after that. I love it. That completely changed me. Yeah, I love it. And from the ELO, I found the Beatles and and the Beach Boys. Well, from Pleatwood Mac, Lindsay Buckingham was influenced by Brian Wilson, so I found the Beach Boys from him. And so I'm trying to think albums out in the 80s. Great album. Well, Hotel California in the 70s. Hotel California start to finish.

SPEAKER_00 45:10

Oh by the Eagles. Not a bum song. It's not necessarily an album, but Eagles Greatest Hits. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, you can count Greatest Hits albums.

SPEAKER_01 45:21

I'll take that.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

71 to 75 or I I had to buy three of them. You know, you know, two of them were cassette tapes. Yes, I you know, they're I we'll talk about cassettes someday.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

Then we'll go back to eight tracks.

SPEAKER_00 45:35

But just yeah. Ruin the shit out of them. Yeah. And then when and then finally I had the CD.

SPEAKER_01 45:40

You know, for the longest time that album was the number one best selling album of all time. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

Um did Taylor Swift pass it?

SPEAKER_01 45:48

No, it's been interesting. It's kind of shuffled. It's Michael Jackson Thriller.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:53

Um which I it's been that. Um interesting, like in the top three, it shuffles, but it's been that, it's been Michael Jackson's thriller, Dark Side of the Moon has been up at the top as well, uh, Back in Black, AC DC. I didn't even go there. So I was late to the party for you. I was I was a full-blown in my 30s adult. Now I knew you shook me all night long, and that is a great thing. But like start to finish. Wow. And what I love about it is that our lead singer died. We got somebody new, it's a black album cover, we're dropping the album, and we're just gonna let it do the talking for us.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

And it did.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

And it did the talking. I mean, holy shit balls. Holy shit balls. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:43

What a great album.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

Great album, start to finish.

SPEAKER_00 46:46

Are you a big thriller album fan?

SPEAKER_01 46:48

Well, I mean, I was in junior high when it was out.

SPEAKER_00 46:51

So I mean, it dominated now, though. I mean, like, I think what are you like? I appreciate the last Michael Jackson song you were like, so it's funny because I was talking to my kids about this.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Like, there was well, I mean, we can tie this into the Bruce Springsteen movie too. Like, it was this moment where the mega album was about to hit, and Michael Jackson made all of that possible where he had seven top 40, probably top 10 hits off that album. But at the same time, you had Bruce Springsteen had like six top 30 hits off Born in the USA. Billy Joel's Innocent Man had top six top 30 hits off there. You know, I mean, it was this weird moment of of these Tina Turner's private dancer, you know.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

Um Do you think that that realm in time is what established MTV?

SPEAKER_01 47:40

Oh, absolutely. I find it ironic that MTV is like dropping a lot of their channels now internationally. Like they're done. They stopped being about videos. Well, I I lost interest in MTV when they stopped doing videos. Yep. When it became when the Osborne's took over as yeah, yeah. I mean, it was one thing when it was like the real world. Yeah, that was kind of cool. I love the real like the first three seasons I was in, Puck was the shit. But at the same time, that whole season, you got tired of talking of um Pedro talking about being HIV positive. Yep. You know, I'm just like, but when he died, but when I when he died, I felt that. Yeah, you know, I hear you. I mean, it was Pedro Zamora. Yeah, and and I mean, but like the for me though, the first three seasons New York, LA, San Francisco, those are those, those are the ones. It was must-tv. Yeah, it was must-eyed TV. Lived for those shows. I never was into Road Rules, no, you know. Me neither.

SPEAKER_00 48:31

Um that's when it started going haywire.

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SPEAKER_01 48:33

Yeah, you know, it just became too much. It stopped being about videos, yeah, you know, and and uh um, and then there were just some artists that kind of held out saying, no, we're we're this is a sonic medium. If we do a video, that's what's gonna be in your head. I want something else to, you know, I want you just to have your own visualization of what this song means to you. Um interestingly enough, there aren't there isn't a Beatles album that that I say is perfect from start to finish, although the one that I've enjoyed the most has been the white album. Oh, sure. Like it's just so it's it's classic. It's just start to finish, just it's classic. It's a shitstorm at the same time just being them at their most creative. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

Um no, you you and listen to it like if it if I brought I'm assuming Red hasn't heard it from start to finish. If I brought her into it, she would listen to it. And after it was done, be like, Yeah, okay, I get the Beatles.

SPEAKER_01 49:30

Yeah, I get why they were fucking it was for me. Everything Beatles, I like everything from revolver on, and maybe rubber soul on. Um the the early stuff, you know, as I want to hold your hand, she loves you. Yeah, yeah. I can I it's great. Listen, it's all great stuff. Yeah, those guys did more in eight years than any band ever did, you know, and a legacy that lasts forever, forever, you know. Um Beatles Stones. I came late to the party for Stones.

SPEAKER_00 50:01

I I can honestly tell you, I've never listened to a Stones album from start to finish. I couldn't even name one.

SPEAKER_01 50:07

Okay, there's one that came out actually in the mid-2000s, mid to late 2000s, that I got into called A Bigger Bang, and I would listen to that one from start to finish.

SPEAKER_00 50:16

Um the the later one from uh Aerosmith was pretty fucking good. Was it Eat the Rich? Was that the name of that album? Yes, yeah, that wasn't too bad.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

Is that the one with um Lovin' and Elevator? Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, like Aerosmith kicked ass in the late 80s. Yeah, they really did. You know, I mean they had Permanent Vacation, yeah. Um shit was the one that with Janie's got a gun on it. Um that one and then and then Eat the Rich. Yeah, those are like those that was a trifecta of albums that they scored. That was pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 50:47

Oh my god, use your illusion one and two. Oh my god. Yeah, well, how did we not even talk about that one yet?

SPEAKER_01 50:53

And appetite.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

Whoa!

SPEAKER_01 50:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:56

Suck on that one, right?

SPEAKER_01 50:59

Great concert we saw. Oh, that was unreal. That was unreal.

SPEAKER_00 51:02

Uh yeah. Yeah. Again, going in there was some seriously low expectations in there. No, they knocked it out of the park for me.

SPEAKER_01 51:10

And and so I will never see them again because like they will never give me that concert. There's no way, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

Um there's nothing but disappointment.

SPEAKER_01 51:19

You know, interestingly, with Billy Joel, I don't have an album that I sit back and say, I mean, all of his albums for me are good. Yeah. But there's not one that I would like put on the level of a dark side of the moon. Well, no. Well, it's not like I would say that most of his albums don't have filler on them. I mean, there are albums you can forget, like Street Life Serenade, the album that came out after Piano Man, you can totally forget about that album. It's got great stuff on it, right? But like it's just not the album anyone really thinks of. Um, you know, but Stranger, Stranger, 52nd Street, Glass Houses. I mean, just he just went on a mad streak, you know, of of stuff that he put out. But there's not anything that I would say sits at the level of Dark Side of the Moon, you know.

SPEAKER_00 52:04

It's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

It's a good out, you know, this an album like that. Or Back in Black, you know. Um so good. It's um, you know, like when when you asked me about Thriller, so I remember watching the special for the Motown 25th anniversary thing, and that's when the Jackson 5 reunited and did a perform a couple performances on stage. And I watched their cartoon, so I was very much a Jackson 5 fan. But then they then Michael Solo did Billy Jean, and then he did the moonwalk, yeah, and the world was never the same after that. Like, I mean, that the world went insane that one moment. And so and I love those musical moments like that for me that still send chills up my spine. That like you know you just witnessed something. This is a watershed moment in music. The 1992 Freddie Mercury tribute concert at Wembley when Elton John and Axl Rose did Bohemian Rhapsody, and they get to the the stage goes dark, and it they play every time live, they just play the recording. And there's Freddie. I see a little syllable, and it's like Freddie having the last laugh. Yeah. And it just it was a chilling moment, you know.

SPEAKER_00 53:20

Right.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

Live aid, Bob Geldoff and the Boomtown Rats performing I Don't Like Mondays. They get to the final verse, and he says, and the lesson for today is how to die. And he stops for 20 seconds and just holds the microphone and looks at the audience because it's about Ethiopia and famine and all of that. And it's just like again, chilling moment, just still to this day, when I when I see that or think about it, it's just like so but Billy Joel doesn't have have like real watershed moments for me. Um nor does ELO. I mean, time is time is a pinnacle album for me, but like after that, great hits. I mean, Jeff Lynn is just a talent that I'm so glad got recognized late in his career, you know, for everything he did. Um Fleetwood Mac rumors and Tusk after that's a great album from start to finish.

SPEAKER_00 54:14

Um I just you don't other than Taylor Swift, you don't have that anymore, right?

SPEAKER_01 54:20

No, you don't. No, you don't. I mean, where the album is the event. They could be wrong.

SPEAKER_00 54:24

Like my daughter could look at me and be like, motherfucker. Yeah, but I you know, it's not like we're going to Turtles or Salmon Goodies or 1990s. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 54:35

Like, you know, there's an artist named Matthew Sweet who came out with a girl album called Girlfriend, and it's like alternative power pop at that time. And and like, yes, that and then there was an album that came out around the same time by this group called Jellyfish called Spilt Milk, and I'll I'll include their first album, Belly Button, where it's kind of like the Beatles meet the Beach Boys meets queen, you know, all right, and it's just this poppy, just but it's just wonder the arrangements and the harmonies and everything are just like they're doing jellyfish doing these harmonies that they're like queen from you know don't stop me now or a song like that.

SPEAKER_00 55:15

Like right now, it's like K-pop demon slayer shit. Yeah, I see.

SPEAKER_01 55:18

I don't know, and and and and I'm out, I'm out. I can't I can't do any of that. I can't do anything.

SPEAKER_00 55:22

I don't even want to put forth the energy.

SPEAKER_01 55:23

I'm I just can't.

SPEAKER_00 55:25

Call me a curmudgeon all you want. Right. Exactly. I'm I don't want to.

Pink Floyd, Rumours, And ELO

SPEAKER_01 55:29

You know, like I like Rush, but there's not an album for me, like you know, stands out for me and everything. And there's you know, I'm trying to think about who I'm seeing. Rush is annoying for me. Toto Four. The album that won six Grammys. For me, start to finish, great album. Okay, starts with Rosanna, ends with Africa. Nothing wrong with that. Everything else in between is pretty damn good, too. You know. Um let's go eat some chili, man. Let's go eat some fucking chili, man. We could talk about music for that. Yeah, we could talk about music forever. We didn't get into TV shows all that much. We talked a few little bit, a little bit, but you know. Six, seven. Hey, so we hope we kept you guys entertained. We we are more than two drinks in. Oh, yeah. Um listen, it's for I can't speak for David, but it's been a long day for this guy. I've been up since 5 45 this morning. I had to get up and go to Nashville to be a part of a 10-care dental advisory committee meeting. And that's well, it was great. I mean, and they were all very I mean, I was the new guy there, but like they were all about listening to what I had to say. So it was really nice, and I I felt that there was a lot of progress made. Well, no, I mean, I I know when to stay in my lane. Um, but I kind of this was me feeling out the committee a little bit, but um no, I mean, so and they they asked me a lot of questions about what I thought, and I said, not we're not gonna talk about this at this meeting, we'll wait till next meeting that they talk about this.

SPEAKER_00 56:47

So get your shit together.

SPEAKER_01 56:48

But uh yeah, there's so but you know, I mean it's like a three-hour meeting, bookended by two and a half hour drives in each direction.

SPEAKER_00 56:54

So it is a good drive, though.

SPEAKER_01 56:56

It is a nice drive.

SPEAKER_00 56:57

I've I've the drive from here to Nashville's like.

SPEAKER_01 56:59

When I was married to my first wife, I mean her parents lived north of Nashville, so like I mean I'm just used to all that.

SPEAKER_00 57:04

Yeah, it's just it really is a it's just a nice drive.

SPEAKER_01 57:08

It's weird when I talk to when I talk to my wife about when I retire, that I'm still blown away by Mount Juliet, though.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

Like how much it's grown. Oh, I have no idea. I've not God, yeah. You pass through it to get to Nashville, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:24

I but I've never I don't think I've I may have been in Mount Juliet. I don't know, but I'm I wouldn't know. But I lived up there, it was nothing but farm and a golf course, and now it's I do want to go up to Portland and Gallatin sometime to see how those areas have grown. Can't even imagine just because it's been well last time I was there would have been fall of 09. So like I don't know what's happened in 20 years. You would uh yeah, yeah, really but anyway, um what was I gonna say before that? Oh, okay. Just a long day. It was a long day. What did they call it a day? So guys, we're gonna go up and we're gonna eat chili, we're gonna drink some more booze and um fire pit. Fire pit. Follow it, follow it, and we're gonna um, you know, again, want all of you to be decent to each other. Please.

SPEAKER_00 58:15

Um, especially during the holiday season. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

Embrace it because Thanksgiving's just around the corner. Yep. David and I are just blown away by that that happening. And then uh we're not the only ones. We're not the only ones. Life keeps getting faster. I'll put in a slight plug that on Wednesday, next upcoming Wednesday, I turn 57. Oh my gosh. So yeah. I feel like I should get a Heinz 57 t-shirt and wear it or something. So five seven. Anyway. Five seven. All right. Be decent to each other. Cheers.