Two Drinks In Again
Dave and Jeff have (at least) two drinks and talk about the goings-on in the Knoxville metro area. Sports, music, restaurants, movies, and really anything is up for discussion. Join us for some information and a lot of laughs.
Two Drinks In Again
Episode 50 - Fifty And Fired Up
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A golden-number milestone calls for more than nostalgia. We open with quick laughs and clinking glasses, then dive straight into the real: winter storms that upend small businesses, retirement timelines that sharpen priorities, and a daily system built on 4:45 a.m. Gaelic, hot-tub steam, and an hour at the piano before work. Those quiet rituals set the stage for louder arenas—where Duke–UNC and Tennessee–Kentucky squeeze entire weeks of emotion into final possessions.
From there we pull back the camera. Conference realignment has ACC teams playing midnight basketball on East Coast clocks, while the NIL era rewrites the rules in bolder ink. Eight-figure offers, eleventh-hour portal jumps, and NIL lawsuits force a rethink: fair pay should come with clear contracts, escrowed payouts, and real financial coaching. We wrestle with the ethics and the optics, asking what it would take to keep competition vibrant without turning college sports into chaos. And as legal betting seeps into every broadcast, we examine how novelty wagers and constant promos change fan behavior and stress-test integrity.
When the news cycle tilts unhinged, culture becomes a pressure valve. We trade streaming picks—Wonder Man’s meta-play, Ozark’s relentless gears—and dig into why great villains anchor great stories. It’s not just escapism; it’s a lens on consequence, power, and the price of shortcuts. Threaded through is a simple credo: attention with boundaries, curiosity without credulity, and a return to decency. Milestones aren’t about patting ourselves on the back—they’re about choosing better habits for the next stretch of road.
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Milestone Banter And Drinks
SPEAKER_01Tutoring Sinagan was not taped before a live studio audience.
SPEAKER_02It is Super Bowl Sunday, episode 50. Please tell me you booked Bad Bunny.
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_04There's some people that are gonna want to go to the puppy bowl instead, so hey friends.
SPEAKER_01It's J. It's me. It's me, David T. And here we are at episode number two. That's awesome. Like it's a monster. It's our golden episode. I know. That's pretty remarkable. So, yeah. So golden showers for all of us. This is the quickest episode ever.
SPEAKER_02I'm out.
SPEAKER_01I mean, we're we're basically drinking liquors that are like the color of urine, or you know, mostly mine. Right. It doesn't say urine if you've been like, you know, smoking some serious weed.
SPEAKER_02It was 2005, the last time I was hydrated.
SPEAKER_01Tracks. That pretty much tracks.
SPEAKER_02How the hell are you? I'm well. How are you doing? I'm doing good. I I still cannot believe we've been. I mean, it's we're at 50. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02I've had a blast doing it.
SPEAKER_01We should almost be doing a retrospective episode, but we're not gonna do that. No, we're not gonna do that.
SPEAKER_02There's too much shit going on.
SPEAKER_01Too much going on. Let's start with some good news. CJ had her birthday on Friday. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that was good stuff. We celebrated on dinner with the family and everything last night, so it was good, man. It's just uh another year on this ball of dirt. But yeah, it's great.
SPEAKER_01No, it is. And and like she's retiring soon.
SPEAKER_02She's wanting to, like, badly, and she's laser focused.
SPEAKER_01I'm telling you, her frothing at the mouth about it is making me froth at the mouth about it. Hell, I want to, dude. I'm just like, let's do it. I'm just like, Jesus, can I just do this already? You know.
SPEAKER_02And when I say laser focused, I'm talking laser focused.
SPEAKER_01Does she seriously have an end date that she's aiming for?
SPEAKER_02Or is it just kind of like ambiguous? But I mean, it's uh, you know, uh, it's definitely a two-year thing that she's like no matter what. She's on a two-year point.
SPEAKER_01Two fucking years from now, she is out. I'm out. Okay. Fuck you. It's like me, I've said we're now under six years. Yeah. I'm out.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But you've been saying under six years for like six years now.
Retirement Timelines And Daily Rituals
SPEAKER_01I'm not. Trust me, my wife, my wife is keeping vigilant monitoring of the. I've known you for a while now.
SPEAKER_02Hey, listen, I get the summer, it'll be I'm just over five years left in practice, is what I'm saying. All right.
SPEAKER_00So all right.
SPEAKER_02I'll hold you to that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. So what are we what are we drinking today?
SPEAKER_02Oh, my huge mate. Of course. I just kill all of your makers, Mark, every time I show up here.
SPEAKER_01You're the only one that drinks it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I love it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, I'm at a point where I come home on every just pretty much every night. I crack open a beer and I'm sitting there. And so my wife and I were talking about this the other night, and I'm like, does that make me an alcoholic? No, really, because it's like it's just what I do. And it's not that I'm looking to catch a buzz or anything like that. I just like the taste of beer. Yeah. You know?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And, you know, but it's like then when you're doing you're I don't know, maybe our podcast being two drinks in again may have been the first clue that we're alcoholics.
SPEAKER_01You know, again, that tracks. Um I know, but like when you're filling out your health history for your animal physical, it's like, how many drinks do you have per week? And you just want to go, enough that I probably should be registered with AA.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. No doubt about it.
SPEAKER_02So filling those things out, it's just like, mm-hmm, yeah, no.
SPEAKER_01It's uh I am drinking Talisker uh Scotch whiskey. It looks really pretty, which uh is one of the uh distilleries we visited in Scotland a few years ago. Fantastic. So it's on the Isle of Sky, and uh it's a lovely little place. They have really nice layouts, a nice little cold weather. Well, it is, you know, probably no colder than this one these days. I'm telling you, it was it's been brutal. So how has uh Ice Mageddon uh affected you?
SPEAKER_02It affected me, so long story short, I got the first call at 3 a.m. Fuck and after I finally sat down through that whole day that Saturday at 9 p.m. So that I don't want to see that white shit no more. Yeah, I'm kind of hoping we're past it. Me too. I'm so ready for spring. But we got dumped, that's what sucked, right? So you had that weekend before where we were supposed to, and thank God we didn't, like Nashville got hammered, but you know, it was supposed to be like the ice and and we got rain. So, but then the next weekend when it pops out, everyone's like, Well, we're not gonna get shit, and then we got dumped on man. Maryland had like close to 10 inches, yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, I it's it's funny um because you know, I use Maryland City Schools as sort of my litmus test as to whether or not I close the office, and um what I've appreciated this year is that they have made the call early enough that you know, like I'm not getting up early Monday morning to see whether or not they've closed. It's like they did it on a Sunday afternoon. Yeah. So last weekend I was driving back, I was visiting my mom in Hilton Head, and I was driving back, and they made the call as I was making the drive. I'm like, well, okay, that was easy. And there was snow in Hilton Head. There was snow in Hilton Head, yes. Yeah. My mom and I went to see a play Saturday uh called The The Play That Goes Wrong. It is fucking hilarious. I holy endorse it. It is just it's so it's the guise of being this murder mystery, but like as they're doing it, like you have pieces of the set that are falling on the side. Oh, that's funny. It's designed to be that way. Yeah, and so um it's really hilarious. Like slap the art center of art center of uh Hilton Head, and it's it's uh it's just a good little show. So my mom and I went to see that with uh the woman who was my high school theater director and her husband, my dad's best friend. And so yeah, it was uh that's awesome. Yeah, so it was good getting together with everybody and seeing whatnot. And did the consistent shut down? But it was snowing as we went to this play.
Winter Storm Chaos And Office Closures
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So I can't yeah, I can't imagine being in South Carolina when that shit's going on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, it was it was uh it was it was an interesting drive back. I tell you who had it worse, Spartanburg. I because I stopped there to have lunch with my daughter, and like I'm going down the main drive, Asheville Highway there, and it's just like did did like a plow even touch this road? Like it's all white on the road, and it's like packed down though. And I'm like, okay, I I'm not skidding, so okay, that's good. But I'm just you know, I get to Jacqueline's apartment and I'm just like, what the fuck is with your city? And she said, This is why when I'm a third year, I'm gonna do my clinicals at some other city.
SPEAKER_02I can't even imagine I'd like I don't care to drive on the snow, and it doesn't bother me one bit. But the only thing I just get I don't trust anyone else around me because they don't fucking know how to drive in the ship. No, you know, just because you have a truck doesn't mean you should be going 80, and you know, like it's just ridiculous what some of these people feel like they can do just because they drive a truck. You go, bud.
SPEAKER_01No, that's correct, that's correct. Uh and it's so that yeah, that's so that's kind of the big thing. So for I it's funny because I got ahead of this with my team before the snow hit. Like, because traditionally it has always been between Martin Luther King Day and the president's holiday. Yeah, all the time. That that's where we're gonna get it. Yep. So I want to be optimistic. Like, we're supposed to get a heat wave later this week. Like get up to like 50, 60 degrees.
SPEAKER_02Oh, and that's gonna feel like Dante's Inferno.
College Hoops Heartbreak And Refs
SPEAKER_01I know, like six degrees or the one thing I love about the really cold weather, like they were I fuck it. I get in that high tub hot tub. Yeah, like and it's like 20 degrees outside, and it's just like the steam comes up and then it crystallizes in the air and on you. It's so fucking awesome. So and I have this new system set up because I'm taking this class, uh, a distance learning class from the Gallic Learning, International Gaelic Learning Center. It's pretty fucking cool. Called the the place is called Sabo Morastag, and it's on the Isle of Sky. And so it's a distance class I'm doing. But to do this, it's the the tutorial meets at 4 45 a.m. for me. Everyone else, it's like 9 45. Yeah. It's five, 4.45. So I'm up, and so then I get in the hot tub right after that, and then I come in here and I sit down at the piano and I practice piano for 45 minutes to an hour. So by the time I'm dressed and leaving for the office, you've had a full day. I've got the big shit out of my way. All I gotta do is just show up at work and suck oxygen for the next, you know, few hours. And um so the big shit out of the way. Right. Yeah. So I'm like, yeah, right. Like work isn't the big shit, you know. I do that shit in my sleep. So um, yeah, so that's that's what it is. So anyway, this this past Thursday, it was I I get up and I'm doing my class. I'm sitting in the hot tub, and my office manager texts me and she's like, Hey, Maribel's called um a two-hour delay. How do we do this? And I'm like, shit, I didn't even I didn't even think like at all this week that there would be any more snow or anything. Because like, so I'm like, well, I guess we do a two-hour delay. So okay, go in and I practice piano and all that. And I go up, I clean up, I get shaped, showered, I'm in, I'm all dressed, ready to go to work, and then I get get a message from one of my team members who I am convinced that I've got a couple team members that sit there on their phones clicking refresh, like fourth graders listening to the radio first thing in the morning, waiting to see if the school is closed. And better take your own. So I get a text from one of them saying, um, so Marival City's called it. What are we gonna do, boss? I don't know how this affects anything. And I said, and because I'm a man of my word and it's in our policy manual. If City of Maribel closes, we will close. So there it is. And it's easy when they make that decision for me. Because then I don't I know there will be there's no pushback to be made or anything like that, and that's a part of the agreement. It's when you're in this ambiguous, like say Hamlin County has canceled, right, and and it's like we're gonna have a Morristown day. Well, what do we do? Yeah. So my new litmus test for that is the pediatric dentist there who I rent my office space from, right? This is his old place. I just text him the night before and say, hey, what are you doing?
SPEAKER_02Is it easy to reschedule or is it a pain in the ass or you just don't even worry about it?
SPEAKER_01I you know what I don't make it my problem. I mean, we just deal with it, you know. And um, so there you go. But I'll be happy when we're into late February and I know we're kind of in the career of all of this. Yeah, I'm so I'm over it, man. Yeah, I am too. Yeah. So but I mean it's been nice having the days off. Oh, sure. You know, I mean, like I got so much shit done on Thursday that like it led to my weekend being just completely wide open. That's awesome. So, which means I guess we have to talk about last night. Oh, geez. Jeez. So Duke played against North Carolina, and then Tennessee fucking shit the bed again against Kentucky. I saw that.
SPEAKER_02Fucking awful. Yeah, that was the worst damn two and a half hours of basketball I've seen.
SPEAKER_01Do you always do you are you like me and feel like like when you lose, you've just wasted your time watching the game? Yeah. I do I feel that way. Like when we win, oh it's great. I'm glad I invested this time, but when we lose, I'm like, you cocksuckers.
SPEAKER_02I didn't see much of the Duke game because that was when dinner was going on. I did see the final minute. Um, so there that was. But like I kept looking at the game.
SPEAKER_01They led the entire game for 39 minutes and 59 seconds. They led the game. Awful. And it came down seriously to the last second. Yep. It was a clutch shock. Seth Trimble just drained that three.
SPEAKER_02It didn't look in either. It just like as soon as he left his hand, I was like, whoa man, that's that's off.
SPEAKER_01I don't like to be that guy who talks about the reps. Yeah, you can't be that guy. I'm gonna be that guy. You're going back on your I'm going back on my word. I but because I'm like, and and because Shire talked about it in the press conference.
SPEAKER_02Well, one foul in the second half. Like, come on.
SPEAKER_01Right. Well, I mean, can we call bullshit? Like, they had all of eight fouls the entire game. Yeah. This is UNC we're talking about.
SPEAKER_02Like, well, it's just basketball period. They're just nothing but orangutans, okay?
SPEAKER_01Like they can't put together a collective sentence, okay? You know? I mean, they don't have a real educational program for their scholar, quote, athletes, unquote. But does anybody anymore with NIL? No. No, right. So anyway, but um, so yeah, there's there's that.
SPEAKER_02And like Steward Carson Beck, the quarterback from Miami, uh, in the national championship game, he was like, I haven't I haven't gone to a class in like a year and a half. Right.
SPEAKER_01So we'll get to that in a minute. Like, what I got a lot to say about Mensah. Um and um so yeah, but it's so but like, I mean, the play before, like, I'm watching Camboozer get hacked. Oh, he's mauled, you know, mauled and everything, and there are just no calls. I'm like, so this, okay, so let the peasants have their win. Yeah, you know, and and even the losers. I I've seen I've seen you know the pictures of Franklin Street. Oh, you guys act like you just won the fucking lottery. Give me a break. So I did text Melissa and wish her congratulations on the win.
SPEAKER_02What was it, like 700 and something days or something that since North Carolina beat Duke or something crazy? I don't know, something like that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was it was I think we swept them all three times. We haven't had a triple crown since my freshman year. I think my freshman year of college there may have been one other time that we did it. But yeah, no, it's very like, you know, you gotta still just such a cool rivalry. Oh, it's a great rivalry, it's the best rivalry in the nation. It really is. I don't care what sport, man. I mean, watching Cam Boozer and Caleb Wilson go against each other and they played together on the same AAU team and everything.
SPEAKER_02Good luck, good luck coaching against that team. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Right?
SPEAKER_02Right? Like looking at Bobby, we ain't gonna win, Bobby.
SPEAKER_01So, but no, I do feel like the refs put their thumb on the scale in the second half. Because we got, I mean, when um Ngamba went out with his fouled out of the game and everything, that just gave Well with you.
SPEAKER_02Even that last the last play on boozer. I mean Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But I stand by this too. We should never have been in that position where the refs played a role in the first place. That's like we were up by 11 points at one point, you know, and then like we were doing really well, and then the last like UNC went on a 9-0 run to close the game, and I'm like, yeah, this is why you guys deserve to lose. Yep.
SPEAKER_02And that's exactly what Kentucky did against Tennessee too. Just fucking What was the margin of victory? Three points? Yeah, okay. Yeah, I feel you, dog. Yeah, both games, a total of six points. It sucked. But I'm used to Tennessee losing. I mean, it's just it's just a Duke losing, too. I mean, it's the Carolina game.
SPEAKER_01Like, in any ACC play, it's all bets are off. It is anybody's game.
SPEAKER_02Especially playing on the road, too. I mean, that that place was quite electric last night.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So Well, we got one you got one more, right? We'll have one more against them in March. Yeah. So Tennessee, like, had big leads against Kentucky twice.
Realignment, Schedules, And Late Tipoffs
SPEAKER_01The ACC has expanded now that like they're not we don't play any of the teams twice anymore. Like this season, I think it's UNC. It will always be UNC. Good. But I think Louisville's the other team that we play will be playing twice this season. Like, we don't play Wake Forest twice or NC State, which I would be more on board with that just because they're state schools.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah. Yeah, they're 10 minutes apart. Right. You know, uh Yeah, we could go on and on about the fucking the leagues themselves. Like, just start over. Like, make it make sense, please. Like fucking California should not be. Not that far. I just want I just want schools that are on the Atlantic Coast to actually be on the Atlantic Coast.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, I'm the Pacific Coast. Well, no, like when we first brought Boston College into Alabama. Yeah, that was like, what are we doing all about? You know, I mean, okay, it's on the Atlantic Coast. I get it. You know, but I mean like I didn't know we were going past the Mason Dixon line. Because before that, it was just Maryland that was the northernmost school.
SPEAKER_02But I mean, what's the furthest is what's the furthest ACC school now? Cal?
SPEAKER_01Cal. Cal in Stanford.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's just crazy, man. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So stupid. And so it's so, you know, it was like that one night where it was I actually stayed up and watched the Duke Cal game that started at 11:30 here. You know, I'm like, fuck it, I'm I'm staying up and I'll just, you know, I'll just sleepwalk through work the next day. That's just crazy. That's just the price you pay for this time of the year. Stupid. So stupid, stupid. So yeah, we can talk about Duke's quarterback, Mensah, going, uh so for those of you who aren't aware, he, you know, this is after the monster season that Duke has had, like just defied all expectations. With a five loss record, mind you, but still won the state championship by beating all the three other the three other NC schools. They then win the ACC conference championship for the first time since 1989. Where'd he end up? He's going to Miami. Ah yeah, they dangled like$10 million in front of him.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I knew that I knew that UT would like talk to him and then was like, oh yeah, no. Yeah. Yeah. Like, um, yeah, nope.
NIL Money, Transfer Portal, And Lawsuits
SPEAKER_01And then they won their bowl game. They won the Sun Bowl game against Arizona State. And so, like, I'm the hell of you. I like I got too many fucking t-shirts now, you know, for the football season. I mean, my god, what the fuck's wrong with this picture? And um, because it was since my junior year. There was the last time we were conference championships, you know. So, so um, and so yeah, uh, but the thing that sucks about what Mensah did is that he he waited until the 11th hour and he had gone on the record saying, No, I'm gonna stay at Duke, I'm gonna honor my agreement with them. And then honestly, like with 15 minutes to go, he he entered the portal. And and and the rumor is like Miami was dangling a$10 million offer in front of them. And I'm like, I'm not staying either. Yeah, no, I no, I totally get it. I totally get it. Give me 10 mil, man. You know, peace out. Exactly. Be hanging out with Michael Irvin, man. Why do you even need to go pro after that? You know, you're done. I mean, you're done. You know, just invest that 10 million. You're living and you're good. Five percent, you're living off half million a year.
SPEAKER_02You are good, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I th I would for a kid that came from like, you know, the the wrong side of the tracks. I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_02You don't have to worry about a fucking thing.
SPEAKER_01You got everyone squared away. Yep. So, but I mean it's it's in fact, Duke sued him for doing that. And I don't know what the outcome of that has been. I haven't really followed that.
SPEAKER_02What would you sue him for, though? Oh, yeah, because they gave him all right then.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I'm like, yeah, they're gonna be unionized. I'm glad Duke was the first school to probably do this. Yeah, you know, and and and I think Arkansas did too. Did they really?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because there was it was one of the Nico MLI, I'm gonna leave you. Oh, yeah. His brother or whatever, um, like took money from Arkansas NIL deal, and then he's like, No, I'm gonna go back to UCLA. He was like, Well, bitch, you know, we paid you to come here. You can't just take the money and run. Right. So I uh they're gonna become unionized, I hope. You know, it just it's just gonna have to be so I don't mind them getting paid.
SPEAKER_01No, I just don't think they need to get paid millions of dollars. Like, if you paid them half million a year, like I could live with that. Yeah, you know, it's it's enough, more than enough for what they've probably been used to, but it probably I mean, you're getting paid quasi, you know, you're a third string running back on a pro team. You're getting paid that money in college, like you there's a reason to stay in college for four years. But I don't even know how that works now in terms of getting a degree. Like, do you just they don't care? But that's what I'm like. So why do why are we just like let's not even call it student athletes anymore? Because they're not that they're not that. It's not, it's semi-pro athletes, yeah, is what you're saying like that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you're you're the NFL minor league. Right. But but it's development league. It's quite significant to be developed. Right. I I don't know, man. I've always known obviously college football is just this huge moneymaker for the powers that be. Yeah. And obviously you need the the players to do it, but my god, man, I just can't even fathom it. We talk about it all the time. I mean me being 18, way I was 18, and you hand me five to ten million dollars, I am dead in like three months, man. That's gonna be one hell of a party.
SPEAKER_01I have always hoped that like there were people within the pro organizations that like there was an orientation of sorts. Okay, let me get you with a financial planner. Yeah. Because this shit ain't gonna last forever. Right. You know?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And let's get your money squared away, secured, so that you know you generational wealth, you you're you're good to go from here on out.
SPEAKER_02Like, do you understand the the levity of what you're just brought?
SPEAKER_01Like you have to really try hard to blow through that money. Like you'd have to be buying castles in Europe.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well people I mean people do some stupid shit. And then you know, the shitty thing that usually happens too is you got everybody that's part of your like posse or whatever with the handout. Exactly, right, right.
SPEAKER_01Or you do, you know, you get you get married and don't have a prenup. Yeah, that one too.
SPEAKER_02But it's just like, hey, Jeff, Jeff, I I've got this great thing that, man, we can invest and blah, blah, blah. You know, they get it.
unknownYour name will be everywhere.
SPEAKER_02We're gonna arrange the solar panel so it spells out Eberting. How do you feel about a North Carolina quarterback in the Super Bowl today? Oh, I don't give a shit.
SPEAKER_01Who are you pulling for?
SPEAKER_03Structural damage.
SPEAKER_01Um, so this this I truly hate both. Interestingly enough, it is my wife's family that is governing who I'm rooting for today. They of like this will blow your mind when it comes to them. Like the family that you would feel has the least attachment to any kind of professional sports, they are diehard Seahawks fans. Die hard. Like are you kidding? Including Max. Yeah, my stepdaughter. You're shitting me. Die hard Seahawks fans. Because they lived in Seattle, well, because two of her sisters lived in Seattle. Her mom and dad. I know, but I didn't even But no, her mom and dad will probably be wearing a Seahawks journey before the night's over.
SPEAKER_02I was just sitting here like, I would have bet money that they didn't even know Seattle had an NFL team.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, huge, huge, like hugely into it. Wow. So we're rooting for the Seahawks. All right then.
SPEAKER_00There you go.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna put money on it. I just hadn't done that yet, but I don't know what I'm gonna do yet.
SPEAKER_01What uh what app do you go through to do that?
SPEAKER_02I do I do Caesars. Okay. Mainly just because it just like accumulates to where I, you know, I'm waiting on Caesars to be like, please get this dude that cannot win a damn bet out to Vegas.
SPEAKER_01During during my workout today, I was listening to the latest episode of Pod Save America, and they were talking about sports and politics.
SPEAKER_04Yep.
SPEAKER_01But they were talking about the betting, how like betting has just gone crazy. And what there's one called Kal Kali or that it sounds like cow shit, but it's caliche or something. Caliche or something like that.
SPEAKER_02That's yeah, that's betting on anything.
SPEAKER_01Right. No, like they had apparently an e like for any event, like they had this bet that Caroline Levitt's latest announcement in the White House briefing room was going to be she was gonna cut it short by 65 minutes. So people were betting that she would, and she deliberately cut it short.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. No, I mean it's like, what the fuck? Bet on anything. I can't do that. Even the um the hosts of the Grammys or whatever. Right, he was there was a a bet on Trevor Noah him saying a word. Right. And he he knew that and he said it. But due to that bet, he's like, so you guys bet on me on saying this.
Outrage Fatigue And Media Distrust
SPEAKER_01I'm I'm more just like into turning it into a drinking game. I and I know I mentioned this in one of the more recent episodes. There's this Orthodonic Pearls podcast that I listened to, and there's this one guy, Brian Anderson, who um like he gets very zen on you, and he'll say, like, try to go an episode where he does not say the word intention with intention, intentional. The current psycho buzzwords that are out there. Right. I want to be present. Oh, yeah, yeah. And everything I do be intentional.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. There was there were two my one that I've got right now that's going around everywhere is psychologically safe. Psychologically safe environment.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that's interesting. That sounds like pussy Gen Z shit. I said it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you did.
SPEAKER_01I did. Just lost our Gen Z listeners. Not that we had any. I don't think of the ten that were for the last episode. Really? We learned 10, yeah. Oh. I think about I analyzed that a little bit, because I I went on a limb here and there was uh the opening theme music that I use, I stole it from Blowback. It's um uh actually, it's this little group that the if you remember that who the rapper Africa Bombata was. It might have been before your time, actually. Never even heard the name. He was big when when I was in high school. All right, then um, like he did an album with We truly only had 10 downloads?
SPEAKER_02And me and you were two of them? For probably, yeah. Yeah. Episode 49.
SPEAKER_01Episode 49, yeah. 48 did better. What 11? No, did more than that. I had my phone down here, so I wouldn't know, but uh I did better than that. They're very peak and valley. Some of them resonate, some of them don't. Yeah, and I always have to think about God, was the opening music like was that a factor in all of this? I'm like, I I I wrote, I kind of just kind of go with mood and I like using Billy Joel's I Go to Extremes. I like that a lot. Yeah. Um, I like um Time of Our Life by Jeff Lynn's ELO. Yeah. Um this one I just kind of went out of because I really liked how blowback integrated it into their thing. So like they'll start by playing news clips. And have you ever listened to blowback at all? Not so they do a lot of just historical review of events that took place that involved the United States. So their very first episode was Iraq and the Iraq war. Okay. And so you go back in time though, and you talk about Iran and Iraq and all. I mean, so for me, and you know, Gen X, or I'm oh yeah, I remember the Iran hostage scandal and everything like that, and and and all that went with that. Um, it's interesting. Listen, but so as they're playing the opening like news clips and everything, you'll hear this cowbell or some sort of click track going, you know, and and then it just it slowly crescendos, and then they stop and then just speak about destruction. Speak about destruction, and it's African Bombata, who was this rapper in the in the 80s, and um, and also on that track is John Leiden, who people know better as Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols. Okay, yeah, or John John Leiden when he was with Public Image L T D and Public Image Limited, and um so because I remember and I remember I listened to the full track once. I'm like going, and because I I my like I don't know all the punk, I mean clash and sex pistols, that's about as far as I gone. I'm like, why does this guy sound? I like I think he sounds like John Leiden a little bit. And then I found I was with John Leiden. Yeah, look at me, look at me. I know this shit. Um so anyway, I tried that on our last episode. I found somebody who had actually done a mix of the blowback mix of that. And so I just sounded good. I don't know how people respond to that. I I I'll find I'll find us a theme song one day. By God.
SPEAKER_03I'm still shocked that Virginia's family's big football fan. Right? It's fucked up, isn't it? It's just off the wall, man.
SPEAKER_01So our also our last episode, we were recording that really prior to the new year having taken place. So we were sort of prognosticating what we were hoping for in 2026.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So how has 2026 been for you so far?
SPEAKER_02For me personally, it's been fine. Yeah. I mean, and usually fine is not a good term to use about anything, but uh it I personally and everything else that's going on in my life, it's great. Like I don't have I don't have a qualm. Like I'm super blessed. I will, you know, I I'm as happy as I can be. Like I I I'm good. But I mean, like overall though, man, I think the world is just super, super duper fucked up beyond recognition.
SPEAKER_01I mean, we are foo barred. We are killing people in the streets.
SPEAKER_02It's not just that, man. It's just like all this. I made the mistake being on X and seeing Oh, I can't. But but seeing the Epstein stuff really has mind-fucked me to oblivion. How so? The stuff that's in it, and the people that are like involved in all this stuff that we were hoping was a conspiracy, but now maybe it isn't.
SPEAKER_01It truly is an international cabal.
SPEAKER_02It's an international cabal and like the pizzagate stuff, and like like are we seriously being ruled by fucking idiots satanic cult runner? Like, what the hell? And then and then, but the and then none of the news is even really truly talking about it. Like because they're all owned by those people.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, it should be fucking everywhere. Yeah, like like 20 years ago, there would have been, I mean, it wouldn't have been faux pearl clutching, it would have been both sides going, what the absolute fuck and running these people out of office. Right.
SPEAKER_02And we're not, and and I still think we're at the tip of the iceberg with all this stuff.
SPEAKER_01I think so too.
Accountability, Protests, And Power
SPEAKER_02And I think just more and more is gonna keep coming out and more disgusting and awful, and but like I truly had to put it, it was like affecting my mental state of the stuff that I was seeing. Like, even if it was remotely true, you know what I mean? I don't even need it to be a hundred percent true, like 0.5% true. Right, yeah, it's uh that's a problem. Yeah, that's a problem. Yeah, like this sounds terrible. Like I in my head, when it was like uh the stuff on the island, you know, in my my head, it was you know, yeah, okay, young girls, all right, and that's just awful to even think about. But I'm thinking at the youngest, like 13, you know what I mean? But man, we're talking like kids, kids. Like, I want them all like gone. Like, this is some sick, nasty shit. And so, like, I guess we're probably I'm probably gonna be taken away in a black van of being on a podcast talking about this shit. Yeah, well, we're both dead. Yeah, um I am not suicidal. Let's be very clear. If you drink Synagan, David and Jeff are not suicidal. We want to be very clear about that. It's just crazy to me. It blows my mind. Like uh the the fraud in Minnesota. Like it's that like that's not even being talked about anymore.
SPEAKER_01I think it pales in comparison.
SPEAKER_02I know, but it's just like I don't understand why people don't realize it as much. Like it's just like these faux, like you just said, the the pearl clutching. Like now like we're talking about the stupid ass video that was posted with the Obamas and being like like that's so minuscule right now.
SPEAKER_01But with what's really but the problem is is like I I think it's indicative of President Trump's like state. Like, what the fuck were you thinking? Like where what part of you thought that that was even okay? Like 30 years ago that wasn't okay.
SPEAKER_02In the whole stupid video in itself, you know, I mean like come on. Or the one of him dumping shit, dumping shit on the protesters, you know. Like, fucking stop, but that shouldn't be what we're all like focused in on right now, like at all. Right. Like fucking not at all. And then what cracks me up is then you got Newsom putting Trump's head on a pig. So it's like it's cool for you to do it, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, but it's like I haven't even focused on anything he's doing. Like he's not been in my he's not been on my media radar lately. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, he's yeah, when he went over, when he went over to the whatever that big uh thing was over in anyway, they thought he was gonna do a big speech about economics or whatever, and oh yeah, anyway. Oh yeah, right, that yeah, but it's just I'm just I'm I'm freaked out, man, that this is legit stuff. Like, oh my god, like the the Bill Gates stuff, and yeah, that's Andrew, and like, oh my god, dude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and just think we hung you know Jared from Subway out to dry. Yeah. Because he liked young girls and everything like that. So it's like, well, dude, what what is is anyone from the people that are supporting this gonna like give him clemency or something like that? Or what's what's gonna happen here?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and now that Epstein's gone, these motherfuckers haven't stopped with that stuff. Like, who's the who's the new dude doing that?
SPEAKER_01I know how Bill and Hillary have both kind of doubled down and said, we will go before the public and we will happily testify in public and everything like that. And I'm like, yes, bring it. Yeah, bring it. And and listen, I am nonpartisan on this. Like absolutely Democrats, if you got Democrats that are in there that are that that are that are part of all this, yes, fucking just shoot them now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, uh owners of NFL teams and NBA. Yeah, like under the under the prisons prison. Yes. Right. Yes. It blows my damn mind. And I'm just but at people protest some weird shit.
SPEAKER_01Like, why aren't we in the streets on that stuff? Well, but at the same time, uh again, it's also the open defiance of some of the departments in his administration that like I mean that Pam Bondi just she looks like a complete moron. She does, like, and so now there's already talk of people who might be losing their job. Like they're talking Christy Noam is probably going to She should have been. She should have been a while ago.
SPEAKER_02She should have been fired immediately. Yeah. Like Obama gave his last name Human or Homan, the the lead guy of ICE. Like he got a medal for leading ICE under Obama. Yeah. And he's still involved. Right. Why he wasn't like the lead guy, because he's the only one that seems to like know how to do this shit. Right. You know, you know, I always said is this is gonna be an awful optic with what we're trying to do, getting people that should not have been led into the country and blah blah blah. I mean, it I don't want to say blah blah blah, it's a big deal. But that if you have what happened, like I could get fired for a whole hell of a lot less, right? Then fucking damn somebody getting shot. Like, get get the fuck out of here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like, why are we even waiting on it? Well, also, like, with regards to Renee Good and Alex Predi, you know, like I like so here are these two people that are like there's video evidence. Like, this is the thing that really offends me about some of the people in this administration is don't tell me the sun's out when it's pouring down rain. Yeah, like just I'm not that stupid. We're not at that point of Orwell's 1984 just yet, where like I've got to shift my mind in order to believe whatever it is the party says. Yeah. Um, so when they immediately come out of the gates with this person was a domestic terrorist and what and no, no, no. I mean, okay, with Renee Good, if you want to make a fight about this because she was a lesbian, okay, fine, you know, but Alex Predi, you guys got nothing on him. Yeah. Like there's nothing on this guy. This guy was a fucking saint based on everything that I've seen about him. And like, you know, and and and this is where the world needs-I mean, you know, I've said before, if we do ever fully hit the world of Orwell's 1984, it won't be the government entirely that has done it, it will be us that have done it. Oh, we're already doing it. Because we're there with our phones all the time, filming everything, just that wanting a video to go viral. And so, like, if you're disciplining your child in Walmart or if you're, you know, in an altercation with someone in a parking lot, bam, the phones are all out interesting.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and the the shitty part of it is they'd rather film you than help you.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Right.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I my yeah. These past few weeks, man, just truly my faith in humanity. Yeah. It's like, man, I mean, I was hoping we were talking about it. I pray harder than I've ever prayed, and and and it's due to that part of it. I mean, it's just mind-boggling how much damn evil is truly out there. It really is. I mean blows from everyone blows your wheels. Yeah, every which way I look, man. Like it's just crazy to me.
SPEAKER_01It just it's and it just seems like the the dynamics of this administration has kind of just opened it up across the board where everybody feels like they can behave that way. Yeah, this is this has been normalized.
SPEAKER_02Well, it happened in his his first administration. I mean, like the the craziness of the BLM and like I mean, it's just there's always just some it's just craziness. There's no legit like calmness in the world, and uh just I don't know, man. For this old guy that likes to drink. You're hardly old, my friend. Well, I know, but I mean, you know, but it's just I don't know. I got a decade on you. You know, I mean, your buddy wrote the song about it, but man, I I know we didn't start the fire, but God, I wish we could fucking end it, you know? I wish we could put it out.
Betting Booms And Culture Buzzwords
SPEAKER_01But you know, it's funny because there's that saying out there that says, you know, those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it. And there's truth in that. And it's just and and I, you know, I don't think that they teach history enough anymore in school public schools. And I think because, yes, there is some of it that is really problematic. I I go on a rant about the fact that, you know, it was what, three, four, four years ago that I learned about the great Tulsa massacre that took place, where like a black community was really thriving and like they were living in great homes and they had great businesses and everything like that, and a bunch of white people got pissed off about that and just burned it all to the ground. That's fucked up. And I did not know about that until just like four or five years ago. Right. Yeah, it's crazy. Like, where was this in my history books and whatnot? What kind of whitewashing are we doing here? You know, I mean, like we can't, I mean, and listen, for as great of a miniseries as it is, we can't have roots be the whole you know, end all be-all of that time, or watching a movie like 12 years a slave, which I wholly recommend to anybody. Um I I the reviews I read on it when it first came out was like this was probably how it really was. It wasn't like Roots, and it wasn't like, you know, gone with the wind or anything else. It was this was how it really was.
SPEAKER_02And uh anyway, but I'm it's I'm just I'm I'm I'm fed up, I'm the guy on the network, I'm mad as hell, can't take it anymore. Right, yeah. I I hate the fact that there are people protesting in the streets that are just again, you know my feel on pop like I don't I hate them all. Yeah. And for the people to be putting themselves in position just cuz and trying to do this, and then you've got idiots that are running it, and there's just this constant fighting for no fucking reason. I mean, there's just no reason for it. And then you find out that they're all just trying to damn eat babies and shit on top of it. It's just like, what in the fucking world are we doing, man?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's crazy to me. So you know that for retirement, Virginia and I have talked incessantly about going overseas, and and that's still a big thing for us.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and um what's so weird to me though, too, not to cut you off on that, about all this stuff that's coming out on the Epstein stuff, like like people in England are they're quitting, they're running, they're retiring, they're getting they're losing their royalties, like shit's happening over there. Oh yeah. Nothing's happening over here. Oh yeah. And so I don't even like I again, I just keep thinking that it's just gonna keep getting worse.
SPEAKER_01Andrew. Andrew, yeah, like that guy is dead in the water. Like that guy has And Fergie. And Fergie, yeah, they have no life anymore.
SPEAKER_02It blew my mind like seeing the shit with her. Like, like, wait, wait a minute. You were like, didn't you have a damn thing with Target? Right, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01I remember you I remember the biggest thing right after she divorced Andrew, like she was doing a Weight Watcher. Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Seahawks Allegiances And Super Bowl Shrugs
SPEAKER_02Like, every which way you looked, you saw her, and she's now thanking Epstein for it. Yeah. Like, oh, appreciate that. It's fucked up, and no one, I mean, it's just like I don't know. I would figure anyone. Wanted everyone to be talking about it and and no one is. It's like it's not even happening.
SPEAKER_03It's wild.
SPEAKER_01It's amazing. The s the sweeping under the rug that's going on there, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Like, you know, have you ever you ever look or listened to Jim Brewer?
SPEAKER_01Yes, I have I have heard him on interviewed on something. Yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So I I follow him on Instagram. One, he's hilarious. He always looks high as shit. I mean, like, from half baked, I've always been a big fan in Saturday Night Live, but a big goat boy fan. That shit cracked me up growing up. But like the stuff that he's starting to say now, and it's just like, yeah, we've been trying to tell y'all, and it's only gonna get worse.
SPEAKER_01I've I know I've mentioned this comedian that Virginia and I saw um at a comedy place in New York. Greg Ragel is his name. Okay. R-O-G-E-L-L. And um funny as fuck, but lately he has gone political a big time, and he's an anti-Trumper and and but I so his reels will show up in my Facebook feed and everything. Of course, I s I just land on him and I'm just like because he's just a hoot the way he presents it all, you know. And yeah, I mean, it's I mean, yeah. I I you know, and it's but it's here's the thing is too. So, like, you know, the big guy has decided he's gonna at least threaten to sue Trevor Noah for some comment that he made at the Grammys. Oh, yeah. It's just like, oh, so that's where we're at now now. The president can sue whoever he wants because they said something not so nice about him.
SPEAKER_02He's suing the federal, the fed, right?
SPEAKER_01Right, no, he's suing the IRS for$10 billion.
SPEAKER_02And and he's in charge of it.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. How the fuck does that happen? Right, exactly. What? It's where I go back to saying this entire administration, I don't think it's so much about authoritarian rule. It is about the biggest grift that has ever taken place in the history of the United States. They are just robbing us blind, and at the end, America's gonna be that car on four cinder blocks with its wheels completely stripped.
SPEAKER_02And and that's what cracks me up. Like every every damn last one of them's robbing us blind. Yeah. It's not just him. It's all the rich guys. It's all the like the shit in Minnesota freaks me the hell out. Yeah. Billions upon billions of dollars just being handed out.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
Streaming Recs: Wonder Man And More
SPEAKER_02You know, I I live a pretty straight life. I'm doing what I've been told to do and I continuously do it. Right. But fuck, why should I pay taxes if that's where it's going?
SPEAKER_01That's no, that's how I feel too. Like, I mean, there's just no accountability. Nothing. And all of that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And then like, you know, supposedly, you know, with with Musk getting in there and and trying to like talk about it initially, then like, well, fuck that. We're just gonna he's wrong. Let's just blow up all of his cars if you own one. Like you know what I mean? Like, it's always this like attack on something when you get close to the truth. Right. And I can't stand that shit, man.
SPEAKER_03Can you tell it's been heavy on me?
SPEAKER_00How do you mean?
SPEAKER_02I do, man. Another one, this anchor woman's mom being kidnapped.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh yeah, Guthrie's, yeah, Samantha McGuthrie.
SPEAKER_02So I'm now I'm aluminum foil hat black helicopter so far. Like it's it's somebody telling people because her mom was like in the Epstein files. Like it's like it's in there. Got it. It's to where it's like, okay, look, motherfuckers, if y'all want to get on the news and start really talking about it, this is what will happen to you.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01You'll disappear.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, or we'll take your fucking parents right in front of your fucking face. Like it's crazy, man. Hate to be Debbie Downer on uh episode 50, but just have another drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just keep pouring it on, buddy. That's how we're doing it. That's how we're doing it. I think you're you're two drinking. This is yeah, uh I'm always like one solid drink in with this when I'm here. Yeah, I think it just never runs out. This is my third. I like it. I like it a lot. NFL football fans, huh? I still can't get that out of my head. Right? I can't get it out of my head. I can't like I can't.
SPEAKER_01So it was like Virginia, her ex-husband, and Max, and then like all the sisters and their husbands, because they all live in Seattle. And I guess now Joan and Jim are both on board with the program. So seeing as I don't have a dog in this fight, I'll be a Seahawks fan tonight. I hear you, man.
SPEAKER_02Alright, let's get me get me off my damn the world is fucking gone. And but anyway, uh, have you seen Wonder Man? Not yet.
SPEAKER_01Okay. It is in queue.
SPEAKER_02I am wh I just you'll really enjoy it.
SPEAKER_01I and so my friend who does who's won the Emmys for the Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, his wife is a film critic. She has reviewed it, said it is like probably the best. Um I don't know where the fuck they're going with it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um, I have no clue where they're going with it, but uh the guy that played Gandhi. Right, yeah. He plays Trevor.
SPEAKER_01What's Trevor Slattery is his character's name? Ben Kingsley. Yeah. Plays Trevor Slattery again from Iron Man 3 and from Shang-Chi.
SPEAKER_02He is so good, and all of the damn references, right? Like whenever he gets like every time he shows up in a room, he's like, oh shit. Oh, that's a it's pretty good.
SPEAKER_03That's solid.
SPEAKER_02What are your thinking? What are your thoughts about them? Just like, hey, you know what? We fucked up, we're gonna redo it. In terms of like who Star Wars with the the second trilogy stuff. They're just like the sequel trilogy? Yeah, with like Ray and all that stuff. They're just basically like whatever they want to do. Yeah, they're like, yeah, we we really did fuck up Luke Skywalker, and we're we're gonna we're gonna try to change it.
SPEAKER_01If they can do that, that's fine. Speaking of Luke Skywalker, have you seen the movie The Long Walk? Mm-mm. So it's based on a Stephen King. I know of it. I don't know about it.
SPEAKER_02It's it's one of the Bachman books. It it seemed too rough for my mental state right now.
SPEAKER_01It is about a dystopian society where um authoritarian rule has taken over the country, and so and apparently the economy has collapsed. And so what um every year they have this competition called the Long Walk where they take a nominee from each state, it's kind of hunger games, yeah, yeah, it's kind of hunger games, and they start right at the main Canada border and they just walk. Yeah. And they have to maintain a pace. In the book, it's four miles an hour, in the movie, it's three miles an hour.
Ozark Deep Dive And Great Villains
SPEAKER_02Um I thought what they did marketing-wise, too, of uh like the first time that they were showing it, they had people watch it on a treadmill.
SPEAKER_01Oh, really?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you had to keep that pace while you're watching it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So, well, it's I'll get to that in a second. So um, you know, if you go below that pace, you are given a strike. Um, after your third strike, you are murdered right there. Um, you've got to figure out a way to go to the bathroom while walking. You've got to be able to figure out a way to sleep while walking. Oh my gosh. Um, and so basically it's last man standing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And what do you get if you win?
SPEAKER_01Whatever you want.
SPEAKER_02Oh, really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You get it.
SPEAKER_02Like the Hunger Games. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Whatever you want. And um, so the the lead actor in this is interestingly enough, Philip Seymour Hoffman's son. Oh, no way. Way. Oh, that's cool. Like, I'm so glad it's gotten into it. Figured that out. I was like, okay, I totally see it now. Yeah. Isn't that evident? It kind of is. You definitely see it. Like the physicality in it and whatnot.
SPEAKER_02He's one of he was he was one of the better actors ever, man. So bad. It didn't matter what he did. Comedy, everything, seriousness, billing, doubt, whatever.
SPEAKER_01You know, I mean, fuck, he was just great at everything. Yeah. Um, so I think we talked about him in a recent episode. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did because we talked about doubt.
SPEAKER_02But um another one that's good too, outside of the Baba Fett, that's new that I just got finished with what I thought was spectacular, is on Prime. It's called Steel.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02It has Sophia Turner. She was in Game of Thrones.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. Awesome. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, it starts off about um a bunch of uh pension money stolen in Great. It's all set in Great B Britain. It's uh massive bank and it's a heist. They're big on their pensions in Great Britain. Yeah, so it it starts there. That first episode, I haven't had a first episode grab me by the boo-boo like that in a long time. Okay. It was and and there is there's no shape or form of a reason for season two. Like they just flat out said we need eight episodes to tell this fucking story. Yeah, it was a eight, it was a you know, an eight-hour movie and it was awesome. Yeah. So when you next rainy day, find that one too. It's good. So I just started Pluribus.
SPEAKER_01Yeah? I did. I I well I've only watched the first episode. I was trying to watch that and Boba Fett at the same time, and I'm like, no, let me get Boba Fett. Yeah, I was about to say that Boba Fett is a rewatch. Let's just get that out of the way. Yeah. Because I'm not gonna have to put a lot of energy into that. Plurbus, I think I'm gonna want to pay. But the first episode, holy shit, balls mall. So I started watching that episode. Is that uh Hulu? What is that? Um Apple TV? Yes, Apple TV. Yes, Apple TV. Okay, yes. Um I started that the same night that my wife and I started Ozark. A lot of shit happened in both episodes.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. Ozark is a top five for me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so we're in season two. We're almost done with season two. Awesome. It like it doesn't get Did you hate Darlene as much as I did? Yeah. Oh my god, I just I'm like, she's one of those characters I'm like, okay, I hope they kill her off soon. Yeah, Darlene is Darlene's Darlene, man. So I've just gotten to the episode where like she mixes the oxycontin in with the heroine and everything, and like what's Rachel fucking ODs and all that. So um Marty Bird, man. Marty just agree. Jason Bateman is a fucking great actor.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. Like, have you seen it where he's in the villain in that movie where he's in the airport not too long ago? It came out like uh a couple Christmases ago. No, phenomenal. He's the bad guy. Yeah. Okay. Like he goes from being hilarious to Marty Bird to the bad guy. So like phenomenal to our listeners. Hell he was fucking Teen Wolf at one point growing up. Dude, he was on Little House on the Prairie.
SPEAKER_01That's where I first remembered him from. He started on Little House on the Prairie towards the end of their run. You know, it was like, how many young kids can it's it's the uh cousin Oliver syndrome from Brady Bunch. Got it, you know, yeah. Where let's let's bring on another young kid hoping it'll jack up our ratings. Right. So he and interestingly, the girl that played his sister, she is apparently like some sort of um anchor person on um fucking uh shit, Fox Business. Okay, you know, well that's all right then. Yeah. So didn't see that one coming. Yeah. So no, I I think Jason Bateman, there's such a subtlety to his acting that is just off the charts. And he's so good in Ozark, but he was also good in like fucking Juno. Oh, he's brilliant. Like, I mean, I mean he was a bad guy, but yeah, but still he just I mean, he's just he's I don't think I've seen him do a single bad thing.
SPEAKER_02No, you're totally drawn to him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, like he just and it's one of those who knew, and you kind of wonder like Marty Bird when the crickets go off on his phone.
SPEAKER_02Yes, right. Oh shit, bro. Yep. Anytime I have hear somebody with that actual like people actually still have ringtones and stuff, I will hear that cricket and I'll just automatically like, you're Marty Bird, that's not good. They either get it or they don't.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no. So that is that has been what Virginia and I was watching. And so CJ couldn't even get out of episode one.
SPEAKER_02Really?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That's a lot episode one threw a lot at you. I mean, it was kind of like episode one was one part breaking bad, one part shits creek, like where they've got to flee, and you know, like well, with me, with him, like I hated him at the very beginning.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Because of like what he was watching, where he was watching it, until you get the twist of the of his wife. You know, he's sitting there on the laptop. That's like the first introduction to him. I was like, this dude's a fucking weirdo. And but then it's just like, oh shit. Yeah, it's it's so good. And it ends great. So just letting you know that it's not it's not stranger things.
SPEAKER_01So I uh well, we didn't talk about stranger things.
SPEAKER_02I know, but I'm just I Well, that'll be episode next episode. All right then, because I can talk a lot about that shit.
SPEAKER_01No, I I I I like it a lot, it's got very breaking bad vibes to it.
SPEAKER_02Very much so. It's very breaking bad sopranos, that type of genre.
SPEAKER_01But like I hate Darlene. Oh, yeah. Fucking hate Darlene. She does a great job. Yeah. She no, the actress, like, she should be like Emmy Darlene and then Ruth.
SPEAKER_02Ruth. Oh, Ruth just you know she won three Emmys for that. She deserves an extra one just because. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, she is fantastic in that.
SPEAKER_02And she only gets better. And like she reminds me, I mean his wife, I forget her name. Marlinny. Yeah, but what's her name? Wendy. Wendy, yeah.
Movies To Revisit And Long Watches
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. No, you right. No, it's like how people felt about Skylar at the end of Breaking Bad. That's exactly right. To the point she had to take it like an editorial out of the New York Times saying, you do understand I'm playing a character, right? Like the death threats, the death threats, the death threats like are not appreciated.
SPEAKER_03Right. It's like King Jeffrey or Joffrey. Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_02Right. Bro, I'm just doing the script.
SPEAKER_01The guy, the that guy had to get out of acting for a while. He's like, because everyone had such a visceral response. A good job.
SPEAKER_02Right, exactly. And who's the guy that played? Have you ever played a villain? Like in your acting and stuff.
SPEAKER_01Have you ever have you ever played a villain? Ooh, I I I dimly, yes, it was peripherally a villain. I was in college. Because I think that'd be fun as hell. We would do, we were doing um Manilamacha, which is Don Quixote. And um I played the leader of this gang of muleteers, and my character's name was Pedro. And at the end of what was the first act, there's the rape scene. Okay. So I'm singing this little bird that was originally used uh called little the song called Little Bird. And while, you know, I mean, I we beat the shit out of her and everything like that. And then finally at the end, like I'm singing this song, and as I'm singing it, and this is really the first time in acting that I ever got into method. Yeah. Like at that time, like I just had a girl break up with me and everything, and so like I was just tapping into that. And so, like, as I'm as I'm singing little bird, little bird, will you sing for me? I'm like inching, I'm starting at her feet and I'm inching up and I hover over her gross, her groin, and I just kind of circle around there and everything, and like people in the audience were like, Oh my god, I hated you.
SPEAKER_02And and uh I've always wondered, like, because to me, the any show, any movie's always the best role. It's the villain.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because you can just go crazy with that, you know. Yeah, Virginia and I just watched recently um A Real Pain. Have you seen that with Seth? Um no, god fuck Jesse Eisenberg. Nope. He was in social network. Yeah, I know who Jesse Eisenberg is. And then also Kieran Colkin, who won an Oscar for the role he played in this. Okay. It was really good. Now, I was really tired at the time that I was watching it, so I was dozing off. So at the time it was not as compelling to me, so I'm gonna have to watch watch it again. Yeah. But fantastic movie. We I have as my New Year's one of my New Year's resolutions, I I picked this one up from my daughter. She was telling me how a friend of hers said every week she is going to watch a movie that she has never seen before. That's brilliant. And so and I think at the time she meant like stuff in the theater, but I'm like, I I think I should watch Casablanca at some point. Hell yeah. I've never seen that. So it's yeah, or mar or a movie like Marty, you know, uh, or um yeah, they're just a bunch of those older movies.
SPEAKER_02I've always wanted to just start from start to finish, watch the best pictures of uh the Oscars.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Right, there you go. You could do, I mean, no, that would be a way to do it. Yeah. I've never, I mean, yeah, but there's still a whole list that I have, like a movie like The Irishman. Oh god, doesn't have so fucking long as well.
Closing Gratitude And Listener Ask
SPEAKER_02It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's one of those, I'm telling you, yeah, you don't even realize it. Yeah. Like, yeah, rainy day kind of movie to where you like, oh yeah, I'm I'm honed in for the next 88 hours, but right. But so good. I mean, Pesci came back for it, man. Yeah, I know. So I mean right there, right? That had Joey Fish. Yeah, that had me. Should we wrap this one up? Probably, yeah. We can then just go into 51.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Are we going to 51? We're going to 51. I know a guy. 51. We know a guy. We're gonna go into area 51 on this.
SPEAKER_02So listen, man, episode 50, I've had such a ball. Give a shit if y'all are listening or not. This has been so much fun for me.
SPEAKER_0110 of you or 20 of you, or whoever it is. And listen, guys, when you do listen to us, please go on the socials and leave us a review and and and say what you like about us. Because it does apparently it does train the algorithms uh to then kind of promote our episode a little bit more. And like we're just a little bit thing, we do this for fun. Like we don't have advertisers or anything like that. You know, we we talked about that a long time ago that we would do that, but we've just we've not evolved to that point. So uh here's where I mean, we're lucky if we get together every month to do this, you know. So life is crazy anyway. But no, it's good time, and yeah, life's a nutty thing, but you know, our our mantra is always the same. Please find a way to be decent.
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