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Episode 51 - Finales We Loved, Finales We Loathed

• Dave & Jeff • Season 1 • Episode 51

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What makes a series finale satisfying—and why do some crash on the runway? We dive headfirst into the endings that stuck the landing and the ones that wobbled, from the raw brilliance of The Sopranos to the uneven sprawl of Stranger Things. We talk about the thin line between mystery and muddle, why audiences forgive unanswered mechanics but revolt at hollow emotion, and how late scripts, studio sprawl, and exhaustion bleed through the screen. If you’ve ever yelled at your TV during a finale or wiped a quiet tear when a show said goodbye the right way, you’ll feel right at home here.

We trace the DNA of great endings by revisiting Newhart, MASH, Schitt’s Creek, and even the polarizing Lost, then contrast them with bloat-era choices that pad runtime without deepening theme. Along the way, we celebrate the Dungeons & Dragons roots that gave Stranger Things its heart, debate whether spin-offs land closer to Better Call Saul or Joey, and detour into film craft: Peter Jackson’s Hobbit overreach versus his Lord of the Rings focus, and Nolan’s character-first Batman that made the myth feel human. Music biopics get their turn too, from a surprisingly thoughtful Dylan portrait to a bold plan to tell four intersecting Beatles stories, each from a different vantage point.

Between critiques, we ground the talk in real life: favorite local restaurants, small-town growth pains, and the sanity-saving power of sleep. Creative energy needs rest, and leadership demands clarity—two truths we’re carrying into our next episodes on managing people and, soon after, tackling divorce with honesty and heart. If you care about storytelling, character arcs, and the art of saying goodbye, press play and join us. Then tell us your take: which ending nailed it and which missed the mark? Subscribe, share with a friend who loves TV as much as you do, and leave a five-star review to keep the conversation going.

Football, Super Bowl, And Shock

SPEAKER_02

Hey guys, it's me, Jeff. It's me, it's me, David T. And here we are. David still just trying to wrap his head around the fact that my wife and her family like are football fans, and in this case, the Seahawks. Fucking flabbergasted. I don't even know how to We do what we do. By the time we post this, the Super Bowl will have been played. Yeah. So we don't know what the outcome is.

When Finales Divide Fans

SPEAKER_01

But uh I'm still shocked. I'm well, you know, it is what it is. I got a question for you. Talk to me. All right. So we we were we were talking about shows and we were doing all this other stuff on the end of uh the last episode, but can you imagine writing something for the finale, and it was so bad that your fan base just totally like came up with an idea and was just like, yo, it was so bad that it can't be true, and and just pulled out all your plot points to where they hated it.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah, I mean, there are a couple series finales that I have seen. Like, I mean, there are people that are very divided on Lost.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, still I've never even seen it.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm perfectly fine with Lost. I've watched the series nine times. Wow. I mean, like, I am totally fine with the whole journey and how it ended. And people are like, Well, you didn't explain how the island can travel through time. I don't need that. Yeah, don't care. The island can travel through detail. That is a tr that is a fact. The island can travel through time. I don't you don't need to explain that to me. Minor detail.

SPEAKER_01

You know. I guess my question was like, did you finish Stranger Things? I did, yeah. And I was okay with the ending. I mean, I thought the final actual shot was fucking brilliant. Brilliant. I will give them made me tear up. Yes, like we've all message sent. We've all been there too. Yes. Like you never know when it's the last time that you're hanging out with your buds. Right. You know what I mean? Like it, but that that was awesome. But man, when they like started getting into this conformity gate, and like, oh, well, there's just one more there's one more episode left because there's no way that this is gonna end. That had to been a fucking nut punch of all nut punches for the duffers.

Stranger Things Season Five Reactions

SPEAKER_02

So here's what I had to say about season six, five, six, five, five, five. Um it kind of had a little season eight Game of Thrones feel to it. I've honest to God, the one thing I kept commenting on about it to Virginia, because you know, we watched re-watched the entire series recently. I'm like, we're I'm like, God, it's been too long between seasons. Seriously, Winona Rider is just like no, she's like Buddha. Yeah. She's she's uh It was so good. No, it me and and I'll even give season two its props. Yeah, season two's great, except for one episode, right? But there are no, and then and then it was like kind of watching seasons three and four. I was like, okay, I'm glad I'm re-watching this because like I know I wasn't focusing on all I remember the episodes, you know, and whatnot, yeah, and everything. But um so we get to season five and it held had Game of Thrones season eight feel to it. I always felt that the scenes that were shot in the upside down, like you could tell they were done on a soundstage. Like there was no attempt at realism or anything like that. Like it was so low budget, I felt.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I think too, the just shocker that uh you know fans can ruin shit too. But you know for a fact if they were out and about, like in Georgia or something filming, we there would have been pictures and you know everything would have been fucking ruined. Yeah. But uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But I I could have done without um I'm blanking on her name. Uh Millie Brobby Brown. No, the younger sister. Oh, yeah, yeah. That whole story arc could have done without it. Yeah, I did not care. It was unnecessary. Yes, did not care at all. I felt it was just one more thing they added, like just for the sake of adding it. Yeah. Um, I was very okay with the season finale episode. I was fine with that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But then we got through it and then it was like we realized, oh wait, there's still 45 minutes left in this episode. Right. And then it became Return of the King. Like it just really? Like we got 45 minutes. You've like what else do you have left?

SPEAKER_01

What pissed me off, and I didn't watch it, thank God. But the the documentary of like doing the whole they didn't even they didn't even have a final script. Before I mean before they started filming the first part of it. It's like the Democratic Party in 2024. But I mean, it's just like you guys y'all been off for like three years. Like, what do you mean what do you what do you mean there's no script? Like, what what?

SPEAKER_02

Like so I've heard the same story about when Peter Jackson took over doing The Hobbit, which they did as a trilogy. Yeah. Like, so he's already done Lord of the Rings and he's gotten accolades for that left and right, one of which it was spectacular. And but so then like he wasn't attached to the Hobbit at all. Because the story's kind of lame. Yeah, and the fact that they decided to do three movies for the Hobbit, I'm like, Yeah, are you the dragon was badass, though?

SPEAKER_01

The dragon was badass.

SPEAKER_02

Two drinks in again. We wholly endorse smog.

SPEAKER_01

He was badass.

SPEAKER_02

We uh we wholly endorsed the Benedict Cumberbatch, did the voice of smog.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_02

He did the voice of smog. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. There you go. Doctor Strange the Dragon. Dr. Strange doing the dragon. So um that's like now I'm thinking we should have an episode of like Benedict Cumberbatch like on a motorcycle doing the dragon down in Blunt County. That would be something.

SPEAKER_00

That would be something Two Drinks In would sponsor that.

SPEAKER_02

Two Drinks In would wholly sponsor that. We will advertise if you do this movie. Benedict, we're here for you. Um so anyway, um I was no, I so yeah, so Peter Jackson then took over, and like there there are reports that like they didn't even have a script for most of filming of the Hobbit. It'd be like, well, say this, say that, do this, this is what we're going for. And like you can feel that. Oh, yeah. You know, definitely. Like it's the Hobbit is weak compared to the Lord of the Rings. Yes, you know, yeah. And I I've you know trench through it, man.

SPEAKER_01

I just kind of watched it.

SPEAKER_02

I've watched it a couple times. I'm like, yeah, I just can't love this the way I do the Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_01

I do love the the villain orc. Yes, he was pretty good. The goblin the goblin king. Yeah, yeah. There were right, there were pieces that were there. Yes. But yeah, going back to the stranger things, uh the the first part of it was great. Like the the whatever that came out during Christmas or whatever, that was awesome. Like it just part one. Part one was just I was like, okay, man, I am I am in. And then you had the the second part was like, well, okay, nothing happened, but I get it. You know, we're just all pouring into this finale, and then that finale happened, and the more and more I look back on it, it's like, my god, that was lame. Yeah, it was lame, yeah. It like there was just way too much. Just you know what, I'll just say this. It you could tell they were tired of doing it. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02

You it and it's always funny with a show, you can tell when exhaustion has set in.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like Hopper just done being the number, yes, yeah. You know, Will was done being well. Will was probably like fired up because he was actually shit to do.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he was actually there to keep it. Like, he's really the one character that I like can say, no, he I felt like he kind of carried that season a bit. Well, I mean it was all about him. Well, it started with him and it ended with him, yeah.

The Hobbit, Scripts, And Studio Bloat

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, which I got. But you could tell Millie Bobby Brown was like, I if I if I hold my arm out one more time, I'm done. Like, you know what I mean? Like she was just but then I you know Millie Bon Jovi. Yeah, Millie Bon Jovi. Yeah. But you had like that whole like where they had uh the pregnant women, and but then all of a sudden that like it all got wiped out, like, huh?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, what what are we doing?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it just was shit. It was shit. Did you like the Sopranos finale? I can live with it. I fucking loved it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

The more and more you like you go into it, it's awesome. I liked that it was kind of a fuck you in a way. Like there's just this anti-authoritarian, this anti-social behavior part of me that exists that I'm just like, I like shit like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, what's your ultimate ending of a like like a show or a movie? Or well not not a movie, because all movies, most movies have decent endings, but like a show that you've watched years on.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't watch it years on, but I have watched the finale. Um, I love what they did with New Heart. Oh, that was cool. Yeah, that was cool. That was like a callback to his previous series and whatnot. Like that was uh brilliant. Yeah, definitely a shocker. Definitely a shocker.

SPEAKER_01

Um I love the way that Cheers ended. Yes, totally happy with Cheers. I did not like Seinfeld's ending, was weak. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But but Larry David made up for it in Kerbier Enthusiasm. Oh, I see. I still need to do that. So you gotta watch that. All right, dude. Got it, but the whole thing is addressed in the final episode. I love it. It's great. Um, that was that was brilliant. Um did you like the ending of MASH? I love MASH. I w I cried at that ending. Yeah. I did. I I cried at the end of Shits Creek. Shit's Creek was fucking incredible. What a show. What a show. Start to finish. Yes, no, like Virginia and I were captivated for the entire run. So well done, man. I thought Orange is the new black left me wanting more. It's a great series. Yeah. Um, there's fantastic acting in it. And um, and I I you know it's funny because I haven't seen a lot of those actresses do anything since.

SPEAKER_01

Um I can't wait for you to be able to talk to me about the ending of the Ozark, and we just talked about it, but you'll yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's uh yeah, no, it's um no, I'm very happy with Ozark right now. Fucking hate Darlene. Just fucking hate Darlene. We hate Darlene, we're not Darlene fans in this household. No one is, you know, nobody hates everybody.

SPEAKER_01

There's just no redeeming quality of Darlene.

Sopranos And The Craft Of Endings

SPEAKER_02

Jeffrey, I you know, it's I'm funny when my son finds the time to like watch all of these things, you know. Like he has seen all these series, he's listened to all these podcasts. He's like, but he's like this sponge for information. Yeah. And I convinced he doesn't sleep. He probably doesn't. Well, he does have a Bonnie Lass girlfriend. Uh oh. Yeah. They're trying to figure out where to go with that because he's graduating. Yeah. And but he's talking that he wants to stay in Scotland. And and I'm down with that. His mother's not. Is she a student? She graduated from the University of Sterling a year ago. Okay. So But she's like her and her family are right there, so she's not leaving. He she actually lives in a town called Airdrie, which is about 45 minutes uh east of Glasgow. Okay. But I don't know what her Edinburgh connection is. Like, I don't know if she lives there or what. I I don't know. But like they seemed at I I don't know. I don't know the dynamic. I spoke to her on the phone for the first time a week ago. Oh, cool. So yeah, yeah. Heavy accent? She has it, yeah. It's adorable. It's adorable. You know, I said I told Jeffrey. I told Jeffrey I said you could do worse, you know. How long? Uh just recent. It's fairly it's it's it's only been a few months, I think. You know, but like, you know, he's graduating, they're like, you know, that's always the where is this gonna go conversation and all that. That's tough. And I told him, I I said, I will give you your props. I think it's great that at your age you're at least communicating like this. Like, that's the key to any relationship, is you've got to be able to communicate, yes, you know, and just you know, and and I just think you guys, you know, but I've I've said to him, you know, your his mother would want him to come home, and I said, You don't have to. Um, but for you to stay there, you're gonna have to have a job. Yeah. And um Yeah, you gotta get off the teeth. You gotta get off the teat, but also to have a job there, you're gonna have to get a work visa. So if you piss that away, like you fritter that away, getting that, then it's not gonna be me telling you to come home, it's gonna be the UK government telling you to go home. Right. And and that's that's your fault. Right. So these are these adult things that you kind of foist on your kids and say, okay, yeah, here's what you're here's what you gotta do. I'm not doing this shit. Here's your bed. Right, time to make it, baby. Yeah. So um anyway, stranger things.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We're just talking about endings itself. Like, I I think my I think Sopranos to me was my favorite ending for a show that I was just so deeply, heavily well, outside of Shits Creek, but just totally involved with it. Like, I I mean I was living and breathing by every word from Tony, and the way that it ended, I thought it was brilliant. I mean, the moment it happened, even like how shocked I was, and and just like staring at the TV of wanting more, but then going, Oh, you set this up for like the past three seasons. You set that up, and it was it was great.

SPEAKER_02

I think I liked that within Sopranos that there were also so many subplots going on. I think the tragic one is is veto, you know, and his gay relationship and veto and his homosexuality and everything like that. I think that was rough. That was rough, and like you wanted him to find happiness, and then he was trying to okay. Look, I'll play straight and this and I'll come back, and then they do what they do anyway to him.

SPEAKER_01

You have you have that, and then you have the hilarity of of Christopher and Polly.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Yes. Like, talk about your comic for Pauly Alone.

SPEAKER_01

Pauly alone was fancy.

SPEAKER_02

Like that guy needed an Emmy. Yes, yes, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Polly won't. I mean, but him ending with that cat staring at him that he's like, that's folk Christopher. And that cat just tormenting him around the outside of the like, oh my god, it's great. But yeah, I it it's tough. I can't imagine the the pressure, especially from the duffers, of just having this global social who saw it coming.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you know, like I don't think they even saw that coming.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, talk about talk about catching the car. Well, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02

But I mean, you had people like in my generation who were all Dungeons and Dragons players, and so you mentioned somebody like the Demogorgon, and it's like, we know who the Demogorgon is. Like, you know, all of us who own the Monster Manual, we know who the Demagorgan is. Or Vecna. Well, all of us who own a Dungeon Masters Guy, we all know who Vecna we know who Vecna is. Like, so it's like, it's so for a guy like my age, it's like, okay, I'm in just because you're touching upon pop culture milestones in my life. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and and then at the same time, it's this interesting, compelling little story. Absolutely. And then, and then on top of that, like in between seasons four and five, my wife and I go to England and we see the play that is, you know, about Henry Creel and and and kind of never even really it was like this thing that they set up, but never even really truly touched on. But so in re-watching the series with the knowledge of that play then behind us, it was like, uh, oh, okay, I get what they're talking about now, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Supposedly the spin-off is all about that rock.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

In the cave. That that that's supposedly where the spinoff's gonna go.

Dungeons & Dragons Roots In Stranger Things

SPEAKER_02

There's a spin-off? There's a spin-off. We had to have that, huh? Well, I mean Is it gonna be better call saw level spin-off, or is it gonna be, you know, Joey level spin-off?

SPEAKER_00

Joey spin-off. God, that was awful.

SPEAKER_02

Dre DeMateo's only other claim to fame is doing that series. Do you hear she had to do an OnlyFans page? What do you mean she had to? Yeah, no, she she um was on uh I don't know if it was on the Bill Maher podcast that I listened to or the Michael Rosenbaum podcast that I listened to. But she was talking about the fact she had to do an OnlyPage because the roles had dried up for her. And that's a shame. And like she posted something about herself, it got all of a sudden she like saw this influx of money and she said, Save my house. She said I was able to pay off my house with what happened there. And I'm just like, and again, for women, I hate it. Yeah, but I mean, but at the same time, it's like, but at least there is an outlet. You can make that decision, that is your choice to make, right? You know, yeah, yeah, that's tough. I often wonder if my one daughter has a OnlyFans page. I don't want to know. Don't want to know. Don't go look. Would I be surprised? No, disappointed a little.

SPEAKER_01

What do you mean you'll man. Oh, I don't uh that kind of skewed me a little bit. What I need to backtrack. I need a second. Stranger things. Stranger things, and then the whole Joey side. Oh, yeah Joey, Drake and Pateo, Sopranos. Yes. I'm sorry. I done fucked him up. No. I I just uh she was man, she was just incredible.

SPEAKER_02

I hate that that I got tired though of Christopher. Christopher.

SPEAKER_01

That's where I was gonna go. When when she threw up, when she knew that she was like, I'm either dead or I've gotta be an informant, and she just decided she just the only thing that she could do was throw up. I was just like, yep, that's exactly what I would do. Yeah. Like, because you're done. Yeah. No matter she won an Emmy for that season. She should have. She she can't. Because no matter what you no matter what decision you make from right then and there, you're fucked. You're you're either dead or being the the person that you should never ever ever.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I fucking hated that too. I tell you a character that was series. I loved Bobby. Yeah. I thought Bobby was just he was the sweetest guy ever. Like he could be a fucking hard ass when he needed to, but then like when he's trying to rationalize with his wife or something, he was like the only cool head. Yeah, he's like, he like had only he's only had any sense about him, you know.

Spin-Offs: Brilliant Or Joey-Level?

SPEAKER_01

What I always thought, you know, when Tony and when they called Cut after them, uh him and his wife fighting, like, do you think that they were like do you think they hugged it out, or do you think they were sh still just like ready to like fight?

SPEAKER_02

I can tell you as a teacher sometimes you have to do that. You do have to do that sometimes. I've never been in the role with Latin that level of intensity, but God, they were so good at it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

What was her name? Falco? What was her first name?

SPEAKER_01

ED Falco. Yeah. I mean, man, like that was as real as it could get to me, man. Like that was I'm trying to think if she was whatever they were tapping into to film that shit. I think she was.

SPEAKER_02

I haven't seen the second or third one. Jeffrey and I saw the third one before he went back to school, and I was power watching through one and two. The first one was just it was epic and it was awesome. Number two was also good. I mean, it's just the fucking filming on it. It's just like Cameron just fucking owns it. James Cameron just owns it. He's pretty damn good at what he does. Fucking good at what he does.

SPEAKER_01

Who's better? Christopher Nolan or James Cameron? Oh, that's they're both it's impossible. It's impossible to say that because they do it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it is. It is. It's it's because Nolan does things with characters. Like, I mean, I'm sorry for me in the DC universe, in the DC universe, it's uh how do you go against Christian Bale playing Batman and Bruce Wayne? Like that, he just to me that is I mean, you could Michael Keaton was great. And even back in the 60s, Adam West was great. Phenomenal, you know, but I just think there was I think the Nolan directed series really grasped the angst and And the psychological It made it real. It did. It well, it made it for where Bruce Wayne's head was at.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And it it just made it to where it was like, yeah, that shit could that shit could happen.

SPEAKER_02

Now, Robert Pattison, I I loved that movie because it was it was more like what the detective comics were for Batman, you know, where it's more like film noir sort of thing. It was like an episode, so uh whatnot. Yeah. Um, so I'm interested to see where that second one goes. Yeah, yeah, no, I'd be I'll be interested to see where the DC universe goes. I liked Superman a lot.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, Superman was great. But I mean the Batman 2, which is supposed to be outside of the DCU, but anyway. Because you got Scarlet Johansson and Sebastian Stan in it, and I don't know what roles they're gonna play in it yet. Oh, don't you love it when the Marvel actors defect? Yeah. Well, I'm ready for Henry Cavill to show up in the Marvel land somehow, somehow. Oh, as as as Cavill Ream? Or whatever. I just want him to show up. Like, I love that guy, man. Like have you seen pictures of him doing the so they're redoing Highlander? And he's McLeod.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Like, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I I've I have only seen the first Highlander movie. That's all you need to see. That's really all you need to see.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And the with Queen doing the soundtrack, Man Who Wants to Live Forever, and Sean Connery. Yeah, hell yes. Be a part of the Highlander.

SPEAKER_01

But the the show was pretty good too, that that came out, and then when they had like the little mix up, but yeah, the that first movie, but he they're redoing it, and he's he's McLeod, and I'm I'm in on it.

SPEAKER_02

So here's what I have on my film list right now to watch. I I because these have been recommended to me, and I don't feel compelled to watch them.

SPEAKER_01

You should watch the wrecking crew on Prime.

SPEAKER_02

Is that good?

Biopics, Music Legends, And Beatles Films

SPEAKER_01

Oh fuck yes. What so it was so unexpectingly good. It was awesome. So if you don't know, it is Batista and Mamoa.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay. That alone.

SPEAKER_01

That alone. And it is so hilarity mixed in with John Wick violence.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. And so the John Wick series is on my list to watch.

SPEAKER_01

That's good. Have you ever seen it? Never. Not even the first movie. Nope. Okay. So is the Fast and Furious series. Fuck that series. I'm not doing that. I can do that. I can't do that. I'm gonna do it. I can't do it. I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02

I have to watch all of the alien prequel movies. Now I've got to do that. I've seen the second one, but I've not seen Prometheus and I've not seen Romulus.

SPEAKER_01

I want to see Romulus bad. And I want to see Badlands, Predator Badlands bad. I haven't seen that yet.

SPEAKER_02

See, I gotta watch all the predators then if I'm gonna do that, because I had that's not on my list, but I gotta do that. I gotta put that on my list. There's a lot. There's a lot going on. I want to watch that Leo Leonardo DiCaprio movie that's like getting all the buzz this year. I turned it off. Really? Like that's supposed to be some like an award heavy movie, is what they're talking about. Turned it off. Really?

SPEAKER_01

It was too political for me. Really? It just within the first like six minutes, it's like, I get your message. I I'm okay. I got it. I just heard Chef. Just didn't want to do it. You know, because I I use movies and shows as outlets sometimes. And that was just it was too blunt force trauma.

SPEAKER_02

So when I was down visiting my mom last weekend, we watched A Complete Unknown. Which one's that? The Bob Dylan movie. Oh, okay. Yeah. Was that good? I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. I hear you. And so kind of, you know, it helps for me with all the music. Like, I also make it a point to know the history. So when you talk about the Newport Fult Festival and the time that Dylan strapped on an electric guitar and that was a change. Like they talk about that as that was a moment in music history when Dylan did that. And so to see that actually play out, um is is interesting. And so I felt it had that because I think it is impossible for anybody to do a movie that does the whole life history of a particular artist. So like you have to do what you did with Bruce Springsteen, yeah, you know, with in in the recent movie. Yeah, I didn't see that one either. You didn't either. I was I enjoyed it. It tanked at the box office.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um but then there's also he's also he's he's also polarizing. He can be. You know what I mean? Like you're either well, I'm talking about just his just fandom. Like you either he's like cilantro. You either love the boss or you don't.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, so I came to the boss late in the game. Like, I mean, granted, I listened, you know, Born in the USA was like a soundtrack to my ninth grade year, you know. And and um, and I had that, but like I said before, the first album I ever got was Nebraska, and I got that by accident. I mean, that was a fucking kick-ass album, you know. I mean, and so and albums like Born to Run and the River and whatnot, those are all great albums. I only seen him once in concert, and that was just so he was actually the beginning of my concert watching binge when I first separated from my first wife in 2008. Um, I saw him in Nashville, yeah, and um that was a fucking great show. Fantastic show.

SPEAKER_01

The last the last movie that I saw about you know, the was the Bohemian Rhapsody, which was incredible. I mean from start to finish.

SPEAKER_02

They were able to go from start to finish very well in that. But I think with most of these movies, you have to just kind of pick a moment and whatnot. So what makes it very interesting is because apparently in development, there are these four movies that they're doing on each of the Beatles.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, I saw that.

SPEAKER_02

So that will be a very oh it's so it's not one movie. It's it's four different movies, actors all playing, and they will be crossing over into each of the movies. Well, how brilliant is that, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't know that that's what they were doing. That's great. Yeah, because I've seen like how they look. Yeah, and it's I mean, wow.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So, you know, like they talk, so it'll be, you know, Ringo Star, I mean, um, George Harrison shows up in the John Lennon movie to play guitar on instant karma, yeah, and and on the Imagine album as well. And and or you know, I don't know if they'll go this far, but it'd be like, you know, in on the George Harrison movie, after John Lennon's killed, Paul and Ringo show up to play on his hit single All Those Years Ago. And right so, you know, so there's the crossovers and everything. But I'm I hope so. I'm curious as to how far they all go with this. I hope they land that. You know, like the Harrison movie interests me most of all because in his career, that's where we get Jeff Lynn in the picture, right? You know, both both producing Cloud Nine and the Traveling Wilburries. And so I'll be interested to see where they go with all of that.

SPEAKER_01

You think Yoko will be put into a good light?

Local Eats, Growth, And Small-Town Shifts

SPEAKER_02

So there was actually a TV movie that came out when I was in high school called John and Yoko a Love Story. Yeah. And it was really it was really good. I remember enjoying it well enough. I will never have a good feeling about Yoko. Oh no. Yeah. Um, and this is a guy who every year stands in the shadow of the Dakota apartments. Right. You know, because I go to the Imagine site in Central Park and Strawberry Fields, and I yeah, you know, and so it's I I think she is probably one of the luckiest women in the world uh to have married who she did and runs oversees this empire worth billions of dollars now. And I imagine if she predeceases Paul McCartney, that would be the greatest gift Paul McCartney ever gets. Because then he can do he, I imagine he will rewrite the Beatles history a little bit if he as this if he's the lone surviving Beatle. How old is he now? He's over 80. Wow, but looks great.

SPEAKER_01

We should all look as good at that as 80. No shit. Because they, I mean, they did crazy shit. Not like him, not so much.

SPEAKER_00

Really?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, him not so much. Um so that whole yellow submarine type shit, never really. He, I mean, he did acid like everybody else. But like, I mean, you know, like everybody else.

SPEAKER_02

Like, but you know, Lennon was addicted to heroin, was on heroin and stuff. Did you ever see Walk Hard? Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh. Great movie. Oh, that movie's the best. Paul Run, Jack Black being the Beatles.

SPEAKER_02

Because you know, with the Beatles from Liverpool. If you can only imagine. And of course, you've got Jack Black going, Of course I'm Paul McCartney. My songs are all about whimsy, and I'm, you know, do these whimsical things with all my songs.

SPEAKER_01

The hardest I ever laughed. Not only about the song Let's Duet. I'm gonna have to watch this movie again. But at the end, where you know, he's like, I just want to, I just want to throw ball with all my kids. And it's like a 45 like minute of it, like all the kids. He's and then all of a sudden, like the black kid shows up and he catches it.

SPEAKER_00

He's like, What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02

Great fucking movie.

SPEAKER_01

It is so good.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Oh I mean, because it's you know, I mean, it's supposed to it's a direct send up of Walk the Line. Yes, but it like it just takes on so many different forms. Like, even that bit where he his first live performance and he plays that cheesy little poppy song, and like all the kids are tearing their clothes off and everything.

SPEAKER_01

The guy that uh was on Saturday Night Live that played uh the ladies' man, he was like his Oh yeah, Tim Meadows. Yeah, so like each genre, like he would like, oh it's a cocaine.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, this is you don't want this shit, man.

SPEAKER_01

And then all of a sudden his music's like all associated with the drug.

SPEAKER_02

This stuff's called Viagra. Trust me, man, Dewey, you don't want any of this shit. Solid movie.

SPEAKER_01

How the fuck did we get there?

SPEAKER_02

How did we get there from here? We're talking about all the other movies that we're talking about. Stranger things. Talking about Stranger Things, and we got uh Walk the Line and Walk Hard or Walk Hard, and we got to the Beatles movies and we got the uh Complete Unknown and uh what's the what's the Springsea movie? Something nowhere. Yeah, whatever. All right, yeah. I'm just kidding. Don't be like that.

SPEAKER_01

No, I won't. But I was. I was. I just did it. He did. It's okay. You did go to Raven, didn't you?

SPEAKER_02

I did go to Raven.

SPEAKER_01

Restaurant.

SPEAKER_02

Loved it.

SPEAKER_01

That was pretty good. It's the first time I've ever had Beef Wellington.

SPEAKER_02

I've not had that yet.

SPEAKER_01

I sound like a pompous ass right now saying that shit. But it was the first time I've ever been in a restaurant.

SPEAKER_02

You say wagoo, you've totally crossed over to the dark side.

SPEAKER_00

It automatically puts you in a different tax bracket.

SPEAKER_03

That's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_01

It's the first time I've been in a restaurant where that was actually on the menu. So kudos to Maribel for having Marivel might be able to have nice things. You can get beef wellington across from the new holiday inn that's being built.

SPEAKER_02

We are going actually this Thursday, we are go on the 12th, we're going to RT Lodge for their Valentine's Day dinner thing. Nice, nice, nice. Yeah, we um I haven't been there in a minute. I got an email about it. I'm like, yeah, why not? We haven't done that in a million years. I think we did it last year. Maryland's nice, man. Maryland just keeps getting. You know, for as much as grief as I give them, they figure out a way. Yep.

SPEAKER_01

I agree with you. It's it's now I don't know what has happened, but it is truly just like I think they got rid of some of the it's gonna be way better than like that Turkey Creek area. You know what I mean? Like I in a I don't know. Like you're gonna be able to get it. Reminds me of Morristown a little bit.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I would agree.

SPEAKER_01

In a in a good way.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. No, Morristown, I again, the thing that just again blows my mind about Morristown is the independent eateries that they have. Like they're very few chains, and like you know, they don't even have a target there. Like, yeah, you gotta go to either end of town to go to a Walmart.

SPEAKER_01

Um I do hate that I've got a Walmart growing out right near my damn neighborhood.

SPEAKER_02

Which one?

SPEAKER_01

They're building one right there on 411.

SPEAKER_02

No shit.

SPEAKER_01

You mean what we already got a Walmart on 411? Oh, you talking 411 north? Yeah. Like you're gonna have to pass a Walmart to get into Townsend.

SPEAKER_03

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I'm gonna when I pull into my street to get into my neighborhood, I'll be able to see the back loading dock of a Walmart. Lucky you. Yeah, yeah. That I don't like.

SPEAKER_02

Time to upgrade your home.

SPEAKER_01

I know.

Sleep, Burnout, And Weekend Recovery

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you've done all those improvements on it too. I know. I know. That's what we talk about here too. Like, we talk about you know, retirement and leaving the country, and I'm just like, but we've done so many good things to our house. And we both feel the same way. We're just like, we don't want to I mean, really, like unless the world gets less crazy, you know, that's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um I I for that house for me to to come away from a you know, one of the worst times of my life during a divorce, and to have that house and have nothing but love in it. Yeah. I mean, truly, you know, from my kids growing up, Dylan graduating high school from it. I mean, like, only like the true like negative thing, and it's just circle of life kind of stuff. The only thing that's just like my mom passing, and that's that's it. But that I mean, it's not like it happened in the house, but I mean, there hasn't been fights. There hasn't, yeah, like that house has no scars. Right. And right, it's just and I feel it every time I come in it. Like that place has just got a shit ton of energy, yeah, and I love it. And it'll be it'll be tough to move away from that particular. That's how this place is. But it'll be it'll happen.

SPEAKER_02

No, I hear you. It's you know, I remember I've just been really fucking blessed with that shit. The way when I signed the papers closing on buying this house. This is after three years of living in my shitty apartment right, and and uh and I I signed the papers, I went out of the car and I just sat I cried for 10 minutes. I just sat there in my car and just cried for like you saw finally, okay, I'm gonna have a life again. Yeah. And so then divorce is rough, man. And we still that's an episode we'll touch on one day.

SPEAKER_00

And uh we're getting really close, man.

SPEAKER_02

I know, seriously. We're getting close. 51 episodes in, you know, it'd be 5150 by the time we get there. It's the Van Halen album in there somewhere.

SPEAKER_01

I'm about ready to just pull the trigger on it.

SPEAKER_02

Just let me know when you're ready. And uh but no, so then like after I had closed on the house, I had the kids that weekend, and I said, Hey, let me show you something that I bought. Yeah, and so we'd gone out to dinner, and normally we went to Wasabi. So we went to Wasabi, and so I was like, and then after that, I'm like, Oh, let me take it and show you what I got. And I took them over to the house, and I had the keys and everything, and I said, So this is this is ours. And the they were all just so wide-eyed and amazed, and I said, you know, and then I kind of went Especially from going into an apartment, yeah, yeah, and and living at their mom's house, which is where I'd come from, and and I mean, had lived in before. And so I, you know, and I walked around and I said, and I kind of envisioned this, you know, being your room, this is your room, this is your room, and and everything. And they were just like all just so over the moon about it. And I said, we can decorate these however it is you want, paint the walls, whatever you want, and yeah, what have you. And they were just they were just fucking insane. It's a fucking cool ass little milestone. It was a little milestone for me. So that'll it'll be uh in April, it'll be 15 years that I've lived in this house. Oh wow, yeah, yeah. So that's the longest I've lived anywhere. Yeah, and uh I can't believe it. There are days I just can't fucking believe it. Like, because it's like it feels like yesterday that I moved in here, and uh you know, and all the upgrades that we've done and the stuff that you've seen in the time that yeah you and I have known each other, and and it's like that was all on the drawing board when I moved in, you know, the everything I've done out back, the the fire pit, the the hot tub, and all that. Like that was I planned that all out 15 years ago. Yeah, you know, you know, and so and so yeah, it'll make it very hard to move away from all this one day. Yeah, you know, and so um, but uh anyway, where how do we end up here? Uh hell, who knows? That's what's great about your drinks in again, is that we get in my case, now I'm on my fifth, and um the 12 of you look good, David, by the way.

SPEAKER_01

So always focus on the one in the middle.

SPEAKER_02

That's right, that's right. The one in the middle. There you go. We've never watched someone sit on their own lap before.

SPEAKER_01

So uh we should probably just wrap it up and get ready to go.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's only 39 minutes into this episode. Jesus Christ, man.

SPEAKER_01

So uh Raven.

SPEAKER_02

Well, talk about what's going on around town. So we were talking about Marival. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We're talking about Raven. Raven. There is uh I can't there is uh they've got chop houses about to open up, which I'm happy about. Right. Yes, I did see that. And there's supposedly a Costco that's being built out there as well. Like it's just it's blowing the fuck up. But I I don't think I've had anything else locally that just blew my socks off. No, I take that fucking back. The place that is, I don't know the name, can't remember the name of it, but it's right next to the old dicks on Peters. But it I know, but it's a ramen place.

SPEAKER_02

Wasn't it a Vietnamese place before that?

SPEAKER_01

I think so. Yeah. Now it's it's a ramen place. It was a faux before you got the it is it is legit. It's legit. Really? Like that went funny.

SPEAKER_02

I was just in the dicks place the other day. Went there like two because it's called something else now. It's like wholesale. Yeah, it's their like like it's it's their clearinghouse warehouse.

Teasing Upcoming Episodes: Management And Divorce

SPEAKER_01

It's like if you were at Tanger Outlets or something. Correct, yeah. Yeah, I forget what it's called. It's like last chance or last lap or something sports, or just in there the other day, seriously. Yeah, but right next door to it. Um, they're they're all over the nation, but like they got really big in Nashville. But I mean, like when you walk in there and having the dinner in there, it's like I I'm not in Knoxville. It's just very well done. They have like the little honeycomb booths, like you're going, like it's just it's just really well done, and the food was spectacular. I'm not a big ramen guy or anything to that nature, but it was just uh just a cool little atmosphere, and so uh again, it's like all these little things that pop up around town now that's like okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

No, I hear that. There's a French restaurant downtown in Knoxville called Lelou. Yeah, I've never done it. It's a part of the hotel, right? Yeah. I've been there two or three times.

SPEAKER_01

I've never been a big fan of French cuisine. And I'm still not. Lelou will not be a sponsor. I will exactly if we just lost all of our Lelu listeners.

SPEAKER_02

All three of you. Half of you. All half of we just lost our fan base right there. You'd think we were Mega. That's what you guys live for, these long breaks where we just laugh at our own jokes and shit like that.

SPEAKER_01

So I listen to music. Right, exactly. Seriously.

SPEAKER_02

So uh no, it's um uh no, it's okay. I'm just not I'm not blown away. It's kind of how I feel about Elkmont Station and Farragut. Okay. We keep Virginia and I keep being like, it's Farragut, we should give it another shot. Oh, yeah, Tupelo Honey now, though. Right, that we have that we have yet to go there.

SPEAKER_01

It's awesome. You've been nice. Took a lunch trip there not too long ago. Yeah, excellent. Yeah, good deal.

SPEAKER_02

It's as good as the one downtown? Yes. Okay, yeah, if not better. Okay, good to know. Yeah, I need to know that. Yeah, I haven't really explored that whole Farragut Town Square. It's bizarre. I've only been there recently over Christmas because I had Juliana set up a bank account with Chase because I was telling my kids, I'm like, look, I just think like as much as you're bouncing around, be in a major banking group that like is She's got a chase like four blocks behind her apartment makes sense in in in Sherman Oaks, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So, um, but also there's like a First Citizens in Santa Monica, so you know, which is who I banked with, you know. And they have one branch in Hilton Head, so I've got both coasts covered. Nice, you know. We'll take it. Um, but uh no, so uh no, I haven't gotten over there. That's the only time we've gotten over to that Farragut Town Square thing, and there's a bunch of things over there. Yeah, well, there's a Sage Dental, which also claims to do orthodontics. Do we feel threatened by that? I don't think so. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01

Speaking of being feeling threatened, do you think that Covenant and UT Medical Center is threatened by Prisma coming in and taking over Blunt? I love their slogan. They're like, we're we're like blah, blah, blah, but we're here to stay.

SPEAKER_02

You know, it's just like you because I drive by the Prisma, one of the bigger Prisma hospitals on I-26.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, in Greenville.

Aging, Health, And Keeping The Mind Sharp

SPEAKER_02

In uh uh whatever like they started out in South Carolina. They started in South Carolina, Spartanburg, Columbia, somewhere in between that area. Um, funny you bring them up because I was like trying to access past records, you know, because I'm filing an appeal for being able to get my zep bound injections and what the fuck is that? Well, I'll tell you in just a second. But anyway, so so I don't know. I mean, it's funny because my physician used to be over there on Jewel Street in Alcoa with the East Tennessee Medical Group, and he would just tell me, he's like, Look, I'm leaving, I'm going with Covenant Health. I'm, you know, he's like, just Blunt Memorial has become a shit show. Yeah, it was about it became a shit show. It's about to become acquired and whatnot. And so so I followed him because he's in Lenore City, so he's like two seconds away from my house. Um, and I've been with him for 20 years. I'm not, I mean, I'll go with him until the day I move. So shout out two drinks in again. Holy endorses James Milhollen with Covenant Health over at the Lakeway Dental Center, uh, not Lakeway Dental Center, Lakeway Medical Center. Um, we wholly endorse Jim Milhollen. He is fantastic, love him to death. Um so anyway, um, but yeah, so no, that's that's all I know about that with Prisma and Memorial and all that crazy shit.

SPEAKER_01

From what I have gathered from being at UT and and being associated with Covenant for such a long time, they paid a pretty fucking penny for that place.

SPEAKER_02

So I knew somebody, there was a guy who I was in leadership blunt with whose wife was kind of one of the higher-ups on the Blunt Memorial administrative end of things, and she retired just as Prisma acquired them. Okay, and um and I don't I mean again, I think it changes everything for the people that were involved with Blunt Memorial Hospital. I think that that was a way for you in the in Marival to be a big shit. Now you don't mean anything. Nope. And I think that's what people just started realizing. Well, my influence in this community is now done. Yeah, it's done.

SPEAKER_01

You know, there is no there's no local shit anymore. Yeah. Truly. Yeah. Like the only like really local thing is foothills milling company and walnut kitchen. Like everything else is just like it's all part of the hammer at all.

SPEAKER_02

Did we talk about Dancing Bear? I can.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I like it.

SPEAKER_02

Like, have you been out there? I've never been out there.

SPEAKER_01

You've never been to Dancing Bear?

SPEAKER_02

I was in whatever its previous iteration was in 2007.

SPEAKER_01

Before the fire. They had a fire and they rebuilt their restaurant. I guess, yeah. Yeah. Go out there. Phenomenal.

SPEAKER_02

No, it like ranks like on on uh open table or whatever, like it they rank number one on just about everything in the area. Fucking phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01

If you ever want to go out there and like like have an hour drive or 45-minute drive to where you're not you're away from home, but not really, man, that is it. Yeah, we need food.

SPEAKER_02

You and we we've got to get the wives and we gotta do it. Yeah, like because you know, there's a lot of stuff out there that's good to follow, you know. I mean, peace beside social and company, and and I mean, that's a good weekend we had there. Oh, it was funny. We gotta do another weekend. I know, we do. We really do. I don't know when that's gonna happen. I don't know. No, I mean, seriously, because no, seriously, I'm in this realm now where every month now I'm going down to my mom's house, and they're other than traveling that I'm trying to figure out. Like, I want to I've told Virginia I want to take her up to Allentown, Pennsylvania for a weekend to just show her the stomping grounds. There is a um the Martin Guitar Factories based out of Nazareth, Pennsylvania, which is right next door to Allentown, and I want to buy a guitar from them there. And they have I've communicated with them and they're totally on board. Um I've gotten to the point now, too, though, man.

SPEAKER_01

Come the weekend, man. It's like I'm I'm fucking spent. I am too. Like I need to fucking just veg.

SPEAKER_02

I don't, I don't, but I don't have that right now. I don't either.

SPEAKER_01

I'm on the this has been the first weekend.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, for me too.

SPEAKER_01

And it's been in a long time. I took a nap yesterday.

SPEAKER_02

I've heard of those.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I was able to do it, and I don't even like it was like this was the most incredible thing ever. Like I can I have the time to say, I've got an hour just to fucking rest my eyes. I hear I've heard of that a lot. I won't see it again for a long time, but I took full advantage.

SPEAKER_02

But I will tell you this, I am big on sleeping now. Like I don't I do not fuck with my sleep at all. No, I don't I don't stay at late like now during the work week I don't stay at late I if it is less sometimes it is less than six hours. I used to be able when I was younger to operate on five and a half hours of sleep. Nope. I try not to. I'd stab a sleep. But I'll tell you what, by the time I get to the weekend though, Thursday night to Friday, Friday night to Saturday night, Saturday night to Sunday nights, and even Sunday night to Monday, I will probably average nine hours of sleep a night. Oh yeah. You know, I gotta have it. Yeah, no, I do. It's it's I get it. It's just we it's one of those getting older things. And I wouldn't mind it. So what I've also had to learn is that like if I see, oh, I got a fuck ton of shit I gotta get done, it is easier for me to get up earlier in the morning. Strack and I were talking about this on Friday, and he's like, oh no, I'll get up at 4 30 in the morning if I know that there's a fuck ton of you know they got that farm and everything like that they've got to deal with. You know, I mean that's that's their life, but but you know, but I mean getting up now on Thursday mornings the way I have to for that class that I'm taking. No, I mean it's like you know, there's the merits to getting shit done as quickly as possible. And for me, like on a even on a you know, Friday, like Friday, I got up at seven uh because I'm like, well, let's get my workout done and out of the way, and then get these things out of the way, and then I have a whole day like sitting in the chair and like marathon moving a Marvel marathon movie, like that just doesn't exist for me anymore.

SPEAKER_01

You know, me neither. Like I I've got if I don't get to sleep in I've just got I've got too much. I got I I lead too many people. Like I have having over a hundred employees.

SPEAKER_02

No, that'll kill you.

SPEAKER_01

Like I'm I've got to be I can't I can't come in sluggish because then you do something stupid. Right. You make a wrong decision or you just try to just get it out of your way, which is never works well. It never works well. So where I just like I've I've gotta be I gotta be I gotta be on all the time. Like and you know I'm I'm fine with that, but it's definitely different. I still want to do a management episode. So our next two episodes for those of y'all that are on the edge of your seats, management. I I really truly management of people?

SPEAKER_02

Yep, okay. Just flat out totally dead flow.

SPEAKER_01

Just commit to it, and then and then we're gonna do the divorce episode. I'm not waiting.

SPEAKER_02

Are you serious?

SPEAKER_01

I'm dead serious.

SPEAKER_02

I'm on uh episode 53 is gonna be divorce. Yep. That's Herbie the Love Bug's number.

SPEAKER_01

Even better. I'm gonna do it. Why not?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I I am happily open to talk about my experience and everything. Oh my god, this maybe have to be a two-parter. No, no, it'll we'll have to do a two-parter on this. We may have to record three episodes in one session. And like a tissue box, too. 53 and 54 will have to just kind of be part one and part two. You know, it'll be like everything leading up to it and doing it, and then like everything after. Yep. Because I think that's all a part of the journey. And and you know, again, it's God, I've it is a journey. There's no there's no judging anyone that gets there. And then this is what I've told people who have gone through divorce.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_02

After I started mine, and that is welcome to the club. Yep. It is not a club we hope to be a part of. However, however, um we do not we do not meet in the basement of an abandoned church in the middle of nowhere. Correct. We wear our badge with pride because we are the 51%. And like that's the key to remember. We're the majority. We do not hang our heads in shame. And the people who think they have great marriages, they hate us because they ain't us.

SPEAKER_01

Well, there was a lot of yeah. But yes, we're gonna do that. Okay, and I feel like we should on this this episode with the cliffhanger.

SPEAKER_02

We'll do it with the cliffhanger. So coming two episodes from now, the divorce episode, which we'll talk about. And then episode 52 is we're going to talk about managing people.

SPEAKER_01

You're either being managed or managing.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, I can talk about that from either either side. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

Both in the commercial and the military and all that. So that may even be a spin-off fucking podcast for us.

SPEAKER_02

God, Jesus.

SPEAKER_01

Managing people. No shit.

SPEAKER_02

Dave and Jeff drunk telling you how to manage people. Go hawks! Go hawks! Anyway, so look, guys, you know, and so we wrap back all of this. We thank you all for listening. If you are uh on the socials, please give us a great, positive, and preferably five-star review. Uh it helps us, I guess, with the algorithm, and I don't know. I don't know. It helps us with something. So yeah, just do it. Just do it, please. God damn it. Um but all the tests, as it always sits. I'm sorry, now I'm five drinks in, I'm starting to hiccup.

SPEAKER_01

Now you sound like Arthur.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, Sam. Oh, you know, there's that one.

SPEAKER_00

What was his butler's name?

SPEAKER_02

Fuck, I forget. James Gilgood played it, won an Oscar for it.

SPEAKER_01

It wasn't Jeeves.

SPEAKER_02

No. Fuck, I forget. He was brilliant. Oh, he was awesome. Oh, he was just incredible in it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I gotta look it up.

SPEAKER_02

James Gilgood. Keep talking about the actor where I find it. Um anyway, we will uh Jebs or something. We didn't talk as much about local shit though. Well, we tried, but then it skewed. What about that rooftop place they're building in Marival?

SPEAKER_01

Yep. More to come.

SPEAKER_02

More to come. No, I drove by there the other day. I was like, oh, look at you, my pretty. Yeah. I'm about to become your slut.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Oh. It's so good. Two syllables. And it's the perfect name if you're uh trying to be drunk all the time. Two syllables starts with an H. You in? You got it? No? Hobson. Hobson. Hobson. Hobson. Please. Hopson. Do I have the bubbles?

SPEAKER_02

Hobson. Do I have the bubbles? Please, Hobson. Dudley Moore was give me another drink hobson. Funny fact, I don't know if you knew this, but like, not I mean, Dudley Moore was one fuck of a piano player.

SPEAKER_00

No shit.

SPEAKER_02

No shit. Go on YouTube, Google Dudley Moore piano. Like he was a fucking master. Wow. Yeah. Never knew it? Yeah. He was in uh also he was in 10 with um Blake Edwards directed it, but I just remember him in a movie to where he was like trying to kill a guy or like put something like he was trying to.

SPEAKER_01

I always remember him being funny of wearing like a pig mask and like trying to like crush up a pill and put no uh diet coke. I couldn't even tell you what movie it was, but it was Deadly Moore.

SPEAKER_02

He had some great, great stuff there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he was quite funny.

SPEAKER_02

He was a very funny guy, yeah. And then I forget what weird disease. I don't know if he had like muscular muscular dystrophy or uh Parkinson's or something like that, but something that just kind of debilitated him and then took him out. Jesus.

SPEAKER_01

Way to end the episode.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna say that, but that's the truth of the matter, is it like no? I was um no, so I will wrap it on. I was talking with my mom about this the other day because my mom had and I had this conversation about that she feels that there has been more cognitive decline with her, and that she wants to have another neuroconsult, and she may have to step down as trustee of the estate trust and everything, which means my sister and I would come in, which that would actually be fine in my world. Um, but I said, Mom, this this dementia thing does not discriminate. It doesn't matter what your intelligence is, what your socio and socioeconomic position is in the world, whether you're a celebrity or not. I mean, look at Gene Hackman, man. You know, fucking fucking what he get eaten by his own dogs, but you know, after collapsing or side, you know, I mean, but I said it doesn't matter, you know. I said every, you know, and uh Annette Funichello like had MS and that took her out. I mean, just you know, at the end of the day, none of us are immune to whatever the afflictions, the health afflictions can affect us. And so the best thing we can do is just try to keep our minds sharp, keep our bodies in health, and whatnot. And for me, that's why I learned the stupid Gallic language that I learned and keeping things sparking. So keeping things sparking in my brain, and and I do the workouts that I do three times a week, and I'm probably in the best physical health that I've been in in years, and and uh that's all you can do, you know. But here we are, two drinks, so here we are drinking our lives away. You know, so antithetical to the whole working out that we work out so we can drink. That's a fact, is why we do this. So, anyway, so that was a bit of a nice little little addendum to what we thought we were wrapping up the episode. But we didn't do that, but we didn't, so we didn't do that. So cheers. Right, guys. More than anything, enjoy the Super Bowl. Yes, be decent to each other. God, please, and uh we'll get through this NCAA, you know, basketball season. Oh Tennessee will do what it will do. Duke will do what it will be. Sweet sixteen. Do you think it's sweet sixteen? Tennessee will get the sweet sixteen and be bounced. I'm saying we'll be Final Four.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Sounds about it. Possibly at least national title runner up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I mean, that was your second last time.

SPEAKER_02

What'll be interesting is two weeks from now when we play Michigan, that will be the game that tells everything. Michigan. Are you playing Michigan? Number two.

SPEAKER_00

Why are you playing Michigan? Because this late in the season.

SPEAKER_02

Because we can.

SPEAKER_00

No shit. Yeah. Well, uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Circle that on your fucking calendar. Circle that on your fucking calendar, people. Luke versus Michigan Saturday.

SPEAKER_01

I'm out, man. I'm gonna go watch the goddamn Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_02

All right, watch the Super Bowl. Love you guys. Be decent to each other.

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