Episode 55 - The Outtake Episode

A single headline can flip your mood, your portfolio, and your faith in other people, and we start right there. We’re more than two drinks in and feeling the “outtake episode” energy, but the chaos is honest: war chatter, tariff whiplash, and that uncomfortable habit of checking how world events might hit the stock market. We also wrestle with the bigger question behind the noise, whether our leaders are incompetent, calculating, or just addicted to conflict.

From politics we slide into what we actually use to cope: TV, movies, and the pop culture debates that never end. We talk about what we’re watching (The Pitt, Daredevil Born Again), what still gets us into a movie theater, and why Marvel’s next swing feels like it has to land, with Doomsday-level expectations and fandom pressure that rivals the GTA6 hype cycle. Then we detour into Batman history, why certain DC stories stand outside the shared universe, and how a great creative run can permanently change what audiences demand.

The drinks are part of the story too: Kirkland Brunello di Montalcino on one side, Oban 14 Scotch on the other, plus the kind of loosened-up storytelling that brings out favorite movie lines, concert plans, and the albums that become personal timestamps. We go from Jethro Tull anniversary reworks to Bruno Mars, from Neil Diamond love to the strange gravity of Michael Jackson’s moonwalk and the question of what artists would look like with social media.

We round it out with real-life details that somehow say a lot: golf days, Knoxville growth and infrastructure frustration, Atlanta travel dread, airport lounge drama, YouTube rabbit holes, and why certain games (Diablo 3 included) are better left alone on a work night. If you like conversational podcasts that mix current events, pop culture commentary, nostalgia, and slightly unhinged friendship energy, hit play, subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave us a review.

(Producer's note: our hosts were more than two drinks in again.  There may have been other substances involved, be we won't confirm that.)

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

This may need to be in question before posted. But fun to do. Two things again was not taped before a live studio audience.

War Talk And Market Nerves

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Hey friends, it's me, Jeff. It's me. It's me, David T. Actually, tonight I'm Bill Maher. Oh my god. Is this the fucked up episode? It could be. Who knows? Like it's uh we're doing two episodes today. We're in shambles. We're kind of in shambles at this point. Um I got Muttley over here. Shocking. All right, what's been going on with you, dude?

SPEAKER_03 1:06

Oh my god, don't even start with that. Let's just dive into it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

Dive into the world. So here we are at war with Iran. Yes. And it's Which should have stopped evidently four weeks ago. Should have stopped like day two. Yeah. You know?

SPEAKER_03 1:23

Yeah. Thought it was Venezuela.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

Right. But it was not. We never know.

SPEAKER_03 1:28

Like, but it was not.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Yeah, it's raining all over the world.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

Yeah. So it's it's all bizarre. And then but I'm sitting there looking at it like I'm I'm such a fucking gambler, right? Like, well, how is this gonna affect the stock market? And I hate being that way, but that's who I am.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

So what I have felt about the stock market since term two started here is that like he does these like tariffs, and it's like the stock market just for and then it's like strategic. Then my wife, then my wife is like, should we be calling our planners to whether or not we should sell it all? And I'm like, this is how the Great Depressions get started, honey.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

And so but then the market finds a way to kind of say, Okay, we're gonna figure out how to exist now with this new normal.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

And then Iran happens, same thing happens.

SPEAKER_03 2:23

It's like he's speaking code.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

I guess so.

SPEAKER_03 2:26

But what's so weird about it to me, right, is like everyone So you're on one side of the fence, right? It's either this is the dumbest some bitch ever, or you're like, this guy's playing what is it, the term, 4D chest? Have you ever seen that like on Twitter or whatever? Like he's playing, he's playing four definition chess. Like he's super smart. So which is it?

SPEAKER_01 2:51

Like, is this guy I have said to Virginia that I think that I want to think part of me wants to think when it's all over, he'll like say, So I've been conducting a sociological study on you guys for the last 10 years or 12 years. And and then I say he's just not that smart to pull that that much of a fast one on us. Right, which is it?

SPEAKER_03 3:15

Is he the dumbest of the thing?

SPEAKER_01 3:16

Because he'd want to announce that he's pulling a fast one on us. Yeah, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:19

You know, absolutely. It's been a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

I wish, honest to God, like I could deal with him more. Like if he could just let go of the 2020 election, like stop talking about it. You know, like is that a thing?

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Oh, it's in all of his tweets, he always it's either that or railing on Biden. And it's like, okay, stop. You think he was the worst president ever? And I get it. In the White House, he's represented by the autopen. I you know, I mean, but like, can you just please stop? No, he won't. That's not how he's wired.

SPEAKER_03 3:57

Yeah, there's no reason to even ask please for it. It won't happen.

SPEAKER_01 4:01

We've always It's not like I can say to the president, bitch, stop.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

You know, I know. I I ever ever since he even came on the scene, it was like, man, just be presidential. Just just be presidential. Understand that you're not representing half of the country, you're representing all of the country. Right. Figure out a way to unionize us, but that never happens. Right. It's been a it's been a minute. Even uh, you know, and Obama was the same way, right?

SPEAKER_01 4:34

Like we weren't like We haven't been okay since the uh Republican revolution in the con in the House of Representatives in the mid-90s.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

I would say we haven't been a country since 9-11. Because I saw our country at our best. Yes, yes, no, in my mind, yes, in my mind, I could be dead wrong, right? But like 9-11, when it happened, people giving blood, like what we were like my days.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

At that time, I thought every speech that W gave was like a home run.

SPEAKER_03 5:10

I'm just but yeah, and you say home run, and then he throws out the strike, right? First pitch, World Series.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Fucker, I'm out.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

Like, fuck with me. You're fucking with America, and you're about to get your shit beat down. It was the greatest part. It was like America, America, America. Right? Like, yeah, I was ready for a damn bald eagle to shit in my mouth every morning. Not really. There we go. Not really. I'm just kidding. No, but I mean, like, that was the last time I felt like this was uh we were united. I haven't felt that in a very long time. That's a long time ago. It's a long time. It's 25 years.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

Yeah, no, I think about when you to say 25 years to me, I think about that's when I started private practice in orthodontics. And so that but but I was still 33 years old when that happened. So it's it's a bizarre time takes on a very weird construct once you get into your 50s. Um a lot of it is uh it's just it comes down to time, and and I I I've talked about this before on other episodes, where you get older, your circle gets smaller, and also you know, you want those minutes that you're still alive, you're gonna get we're only given a limited amount of minutes. Yep. You just want those to be quality. And I don't have time like so in with my relationships with people, if we still want to talk about managing people um a week, you know, episode later. Um, but it's it's like um well see now, I just lost my train of thought.

unknown 7:00

I didn't do that.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

I was saying something pretty profound before that.

SPEAKER_03 7:04

Damn it.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

I hate it when I do that. This is why I need a scribe behind me. I used to have people when I was like, I remember there are guys in the Navy who'd be like, you know, you said a this great thing the other day. I'm like, what'd I say? I have no idea what I said. Yeah, I'm just laughing. I just need to scribe. Just put a scribe Sunday. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:22

Like I can't yeah.

What We’re Watching Right Now

SPEAKER_01 7:24

So what's the latest cool thing you've watched? So Virginia and I are currently in the middle of watching The Pit. Okay. Season one. All right.

SPEAKER_03 7:36

You don't realize I watched the first like three episodes and turned it off.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Okay. See, when I first saw that and then like Noah Wiley's picture, I'm like, we did we find out what John Carter's been up to these exactly. It was too it was too ER for two ER for but it's a really good series. Yeah and and a little a lot more medical, uh, a lot more, I feel realistic that uh than ER was. Yeah. Yeah. So we're watching that right now, and then solo. I am finishing up a rewatch of of uh Daredevil season one. Daredevil Born Again. Season one. That's some good shit right there. This on second watch. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

Yes. And that's a lot of our problem, friends.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

It's a little more than just two drinks in again.

What We’re Drinking Tonight

SPEAKER_01 8:34

Hey, what have we been drinking all night? We've not even talked about that on the last episode.

SPEAKER_03 8:37

Well, you gave me some Kirkland wine.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

It's a Brunello Di Monticino. Yes. And but it's like got the Kirkland label on it. It's what you buy at Costco. Yeah, you know, and but you know, there at the top there's a Dulk G label around the neck of the bottle, and that's its licensure that hey, you were you were good to go to lead the country. You meet the highest standards of us allowing you to uh allowing us to call you a Brunello. That's a good bottle of wine. You know, I I tell you, even Kirkland's Brunello is better. It's better than Menage A Trois. Have you ever had that? Oh the the wine? Yes, yeah. It's a blend. It's like a blend of a bunch of shit. Yeah. No, I lived on that in when during the apartment years when I was getting divorced. Menage a toit and clos du pois.

SPEAKER_03 9:27

And maybe every now and then, um oh shoot, what's so it was like the Kirkland little label, because I picked up a golf ball here recently.

SPEAKER_04 9:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

And it was like Kirkland golf ball, and like I threw it. We talked about that. Like, yeah. So I'm I'm trying to figure out like how did we have this label on every fucking thing?

SPEAKER_01 9:52

It's like buying large from Wally.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

Up in space.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Well, big and large, whatever the hell it was.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

Up in space, there's a lot of space, you know.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Yep. God, what are we doing? Well, we've been drinking a bit. And then a little more. So you're getting a very altered episode of Two Drinks in a game.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

This is the This is the outtake episode.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

But it kind of feels like it at this point. It's it's the spoof reel. It's just fun to do. Yeah, exactly. I've never done it. We're uploading this. I promise you, I'm going to upload this. I'm gonna listen to the re-listen. I'll listen to the whole time, which I rarely do with most of our episodes.

SPEAKER_03 10:40

I know. You don't edit shit.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

I I not until uh Managing People Part One.

SPEAKER_03 10:47

Was I wrong?

SPEAKER_01 10:48

No, you were right that we should edit some stuff. Yeah. Yeah, because it was getting personal.

SPEAKER_03 10:55

Okay. I appreciate you acknowledging that. There you go. Cheers to that. Cheers to that.

SPEAKER_01 11:00

Slangova. So you've been drinking, we've been drinking having you drink the Kirkland's uh Brunello di Monticino. Red wine from Tuscany.

unknown 11:10

Red wine.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

Little little community called uh de Monticino.

Favorite Lines From Movies And Stage

SPEAKER_03 11:16

And what's your favorite line in acting history go?

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Oh, uh that would be well, one of my yes, just for amusement purposes. Uh I didn't need the background. What is it? It was in the play, The Foreigner, and it's um a nonsense. Oh, I say gumb gumbo rim jumbo.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_01 11:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

You're gonna hit me with gum jumbo gumbra.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

It sounds like it's rim job in the middle of the line.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

I know, but that's your favorite.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

I just it gets a lot of positive response. Um I'm trying to think what else. Like, I could go to Fiddler, but geez, that no.

SPEAKER_03 12:00

Your favorite, not like not like uh like I feel like you're you're Rocky, like the Rocky line really stuck with you.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

Okay, yeah. Like that's what I'm kind of Rocky Balboa. He says in the movie Rocky Balboa, he says it's not doing it's not about how hard you can get hit, it's about it's not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. And that I listened, heard just as my divorce was beginning, and that carried me through the whole process.

SPEAKER_03 12:35

Well, I know, but I mean that's what I'm asking.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Coming in episodes 56 and 57.

SPEAKER_03 12:43

We're idiots. Oh, I love it. Right.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

So, Rock, yeah. So, what's yours? Like, it is what's your like your favorite line from movie? I thought you were like, what is the what's my favorite line that I ever delivered as an actor?

SPEAKER_03 12:56

Any of it. Like, it's just any of it. Like, you know, it was just Gomo Rim Jumbo You're gonna need a bigger boat, or we're gonna need a bigger boat.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Well, there's some there's some of those lines though that are a little kind of trite at this point. I hear you.

SPEAKER_03 13:10

You know, I hear you.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Like, I'll be back. All right, I don't give away. I don't want to hear that.

SPEAKER_03 13:15

I'll give you one. The one that like will hit me and I can is oh captain my captain.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 13:23

Like if I'll give you one. Like if if I feel like I can stand up on a fucking desk for you and say that was a great moment. Like, mmm, man, that that means a lot to me. So when I say oh captain, my captain, that's a big deal.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Even more so pertinent now. Hey dad, you want to have a catch?

SPEAKER_03 13:44

Oh, oh jeez.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

Right? Brutal, brutal. Now it's really brutal.

SPEAKER_03 13:49

Well, yeah, for sure. Right. Yeah, no, that's yeah, that's brutal. But that's why it was awesome. Right. Yeah. It's hard. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

I'm sure a lot of men called up their fathers and said, I really would really like to have a catch with you.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Yeah, yeah. Hey, you got the old lifty. Oh my god. I couldn't putt two weeks ago. What was wrong? Now I'm getting the hole.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

Okay, now you're doing the Trump dance with the microphone here. Where he looks like he's jerking off two guys.

SPEAKER_03 14:27

It's fun. This is the outtake episode.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

Does it not feel like the longest 14 minutes you've ever been recording? I have aged twelve years. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

This is fucking blackmail shit. It is. All right then. At least we acknowledge it. Um

Movie Theater Loyalty And Marvel Stakes

SPEAKER_03 15:05

have you seen Project Hail Mary? No. Me neither. Mad as hell that I haven't. I feel like it's uh it's Ryan Gosling. Okay, yes. Yeah, it's like the biggest film this year so far, and like I haven't given a shit. Do you have any desire to go to the movie theater anymore?

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Uh and right now, unless it's a Marvel movie, probably not. Or if or no, uh, because I do want to see Mandalorian and Grogu.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

I do.

SPEAKER_03 15:37

I know, but then so Balls. What was the last movie you got like hyped up and like we're going to the movie theater? Um That's a big deal.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

It is. And there's not a lot like it's most Marvel movies. I am still loyal to Marvel. I mean, even it's just like the move next like I'm I'm ready for the next Spider-Man movie, and then I can't I'm so hugely ready for Doomsday. I'm I am too, man. I am you know like I want I want some diabolical shit. Five trailers that they've issued. I'm just like, oh Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03 16:16

If you don't so there's two things if you don't deliver on, there may be the Civil War, you know, like this Grand Theft Auto 6 video game.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

Because it's been a long time since five, and five was awesome. People are just really, really waiting on this, and the hype with Doomsday, people are really, really waiting on this. If if either one of those shit the bed, it's gonna be bad.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

No, I feel like it's kind of make or break at this point. You know, like if the if if doomsday, and I I really I have no other reason to think it will be a home run.

SPEAKER_03 16:53

Everything that I've read, like, how can that be bad?

SPEAKER_01 16:55

Right. Right. And like I said, the trailers. I mean, that alone, I like because you think like this is this is even bigger than Endgame. Like, this is a cast of millions, you know, that they've got it. And like, I don't even want to think about like the mar the people in the Marvel Cinematic Universe that weren't on all of those directors' chairs, you know.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

And it's you have to kind of thank the um Deadpool movie for that.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Right.

SPEAKER_03 17:23

Like they showcases like, hey, y'all fucked up.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

Here were some really cool characters, really great actors providing you, and y'all have shit to bed, and now all of a sudden they're back. Right. Which is even better. Right. Until you're 90. As Stan Poole says to Hugh, it's tough. How are you gonna replace you, Jack?

SPEAKER_01 17:51

Man, God, I don't even know. Like, who And can any and would anyone accept it?

SPEAKER_03 17:57

That's the because we're we're now getting to this point where we're gonna DC's kind of fucked up now, too, with the Reeves shit. Like Patterson's Batman. He's kind of the Batman right now. Yeah, like you can't you can't introduce another Batman right now.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

If you do. No. No. I just wish they'd go back to Christian Bale.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

Because like I I don't think he will do it, though. No. He was awesome, man. That was some good shit.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

That that it's funny because like when you look at the the DC universe and you look at the Marvel universe, the Dark Knight trilogy sits outside all of that. It does. It's just well, the same, I mean, for the comic, the graphic novel The Dark Knight Returns, like to me, that sits completely outside the DC universe, like any other Batman stuff you've published. It's like it's on its own. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

And and um, it's it is to be studied.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

Well, yeah, it is, as the kids say. That's true.

SPEAKER_03 19:04

It's awesome. Like no one was uh unbelievably able to put it in our world. Like the Batman villains that are off the charts. There were I thought you are believable.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Christian Bale delivered with the You know, Bruce Wayne is a fucked up guy. Like, I mean, you read Dark Knight Returns, you you that they hold, I mean, he's just you the PTSD from watching your parents be killed and you know whatnot. And he's got issues. I loved how in Dark Knight Returns, the graphic novel, that like they really focused on Bruce Wayne's psychosis. And I I I feel like well, I mean, Tim Burton even got it right, you know, instances and whatnot. So that was so much fun. If if Tim Burton didn't pull off what he pulled off, right, we wouldn't be talking about the DC universe today. It would it would have stopped at Christopher Reeve.

SPEAKER_03 20:12

Yep, yeah, it would it was done.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Yeah. Yep. And now here with what Marvel's done, like we've shown anything is possible. Well, check, go back even Star Wars. Star Wars kind of did it before Marvel did. Oh, yeah. You know, there's just was all there's always a demand for new content.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

Yeah. And it seems like it's easy content, but then we screw it up somehow.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Again, they should be slow lobbed softballs. Yes, you know, yeah, and we're trying to escape into your world, it's too hard, you know. Yes. I'm waiting

Concert Plans And Music Time Capsules

SPEAKER_01 20:50

for the day. So just here's something that came out just the other day. It's the 40th anniversary of this Jethro Toll album called Underwraps, which is the first concert tour that I saw Jethro Toll live. Um and they have apparently the biggest issue they had with that album when it came out in 1984 is that there was a lot of electronic drum sound effects or drum programming that took place. And so now they did they went back to those tapes and they recorded actual real analog human being drums. And so now you but you in this big like and this is what the Jethro Toll market has been doing. Every anniversary, it's like this big, vast release of like here's some backup albums, here's like outtakes, like galore, more than you ever care about. So this one, it was um they went back and re recorded the drums because they didn't like it was electronic drums the whole time. And they did it not just to that album, but then like right after that, there was a solo album by the lead singer of Jethro Toll, Ian Anderson. And uh they did a version of that that had real drums on it. So I like it. It's it's good in the hood.

SPEAKER_03 22:13

God, we gotta deal with a work week.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

My uh it's funny because my well this I'm going to a Bruno Mars concert Wednesday night. Jacqueline just saw it a few a few weeks ago in Charlotte. Yeah. I'm ex I I I wish I'd gotten tickets.

SPEAKER_03 22:32

Well, it was my daughter's birthday present.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 22:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

You have to just you know right on her coattails for that. Yeah. Because you paid for the tickets.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

Where are you sitting?

SPEAKER_03 22:47

Uh somewhere in Ohio State University's football stadium. Okay. Good deal. Yeah. It's like one 126. I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

No, like his first album, like there's a soundtrack. There's a soundtrack to what I call the divorce years when we were living over at Heritage Lake at Westland with the kids, like the music that we were listening to at the time, and that's one of those albums. It was also during that time that I discovered Lady Gaga. I'd read about her and like she's had five number one singles, and I'm like, okay, how is it I don't I haven't heard this person? And so I downloaded the Fame Monster, and uh I was like, oh yeah, no, I totally get it. Like, this is some of the catchiest shit that I've heard in forever.

SPEAKER_03 23:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

So but those are a part of what I call the divorce years. That will be that will be during episode part two of the divorce series. Don't you like how I've already outlined the episodes? I saw that. It's just how it is. That's just how it is. So uh we talked about what you're drinking. I am drinking uh tonight, I have been drinking an Oben 14 from Oban Scotland. Uh Anstoban. Uh we actually, my Virginia and I toured this uh distillery, Taishtala, as they say in Gaelic. And uh and we stayed there a night in the town. And um it's a beautiful, little, cute little town on the water. Uh they have a ferry that goes from there to uh Al Sky. And uh it's it's uh, you know, it's a pleasant little place. So anyway, Oban is what an Oban 14 is what I've been drinking this evening for episodes 54 and 55.

SPEAKER_03 25:02

Yes, you are. Yes, yes, sir. Oh, it's hilarious.

Golf Days And Beer That Hits Hard

SPEAKER_03 25:11

So is the last time you played golf the last time you and I played? Yeah. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

We need to go out more. Yeah, I wish I could get Virginia to bite off on it because I think it's something really that she and I could do. Just I mean, you want to talk about a way to kill five hours. Yes, you know, but I think it'd be fun for us to do it together because it's just always a good time. Well, yeah, no, I'd fuck I that that's what I was thinking about coming back from Townsend. Is that just like I'm like, God no, that was a really nice day.

SPEAKER_03 25:42

That was fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Yeah, I had a blast. You know, we that was a good weekend. Yeah, because I you know, I was I drove by Peaceful Side Social and the company, and I'm just like, I'm like, yeah, I am shocked about cheers to the company, yes, but I'm still shocked that it's prevalent as it's still here.

SPEAKER_03 26:05

Yeah, yeah. Like more power to them, man.

SPEAKER_01 26:12

Yeah. No, I mean I say that and I think about well, the beer that I used to like to drink, Kataba White Zombie, Katawba Brewery, went under went. Well, I don't know if they went under. Like I heard it was last day they were reorganizing, and then they'll be back, and I'm like, hey, I'm still waiting. You know, I've moved on to other beers. It's not you, it's me. So we wholly endorse Zool beer. Um on Mar on May 30th will be the release of their PBJ mixtape. So about that, it's purple in color uh and opaque. Uh and it's got the peanut butter flavor, it's on the front end, and then it finishes with the jelly.

SPEAKER_03 27:01

My palate can't handle it.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

See, I always tell the servers when they provide me with the first one, I say, okay, so I'm telling you now, after two, I'm not responsible. And it's not that I'm responsible, I'm not responsible for what I do, I'm just not responsible.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

I can't get my my body and just cannot get over the fact it was like, okay, you're not gonna have two peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Like, so I'll take a sip of that beer, and it is so prevalent that it tastes like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to where it's just like I can't have more of that.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

The last Knox brew tour that I can't do that. Well, did we do the last Knox brew tour together? Is that where you got the shirt? When we finished at Zool? That was a hard night, dude. Like that's where I got PB and J mixtape. I'm not responsible. Like that was from that night. I think that was my last official hangover.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

Dude, I can't I probably shouldn't be doing this.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

No. You go ahead and have that. I probably shouldn't be doing that. No. It's gonna be an interesting work day tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

I'm playing in a golf tournament.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

You said, yeah. That's great. Holston Hills? Yeah. Country club? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:29

I'm gonna suck.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

I actually there for their Memorial Day event that they have at the pool, the band that I was in, we performed there once. See, but that's a part of the world for me that like I completely forget even exists, Holston Hills.

SPEAKER_03 28:48

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

You know.

SPEAKER_03 28:49

Well, it's just on the weird side of Knoxville.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 28:55

Yeah, everything everyone thought it was gonna grow that way or it was established that way and it grew elsewhere.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Yeah, no, it's like Knoxville's kind of like a comet. It's got here's the big downtown, and then there's this very long tail that comes off the comet. Or like a tadpole or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 29:17

I think it'll eventually start growing again, but yeah, right now.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

Oh, you mean it's not growing right now, like with I seriously. So this I went to a graduation party

Knoxville Growth And Atlanta Dread

SPEAKER_01 29:28

today. Yes. And it was over at Melton Hill Park. All right. Which uh in the Harden Valley area. Yep. And um as I'm coming back, like I'm driving that there's a kind of a north-south drag called Steel Road, right where Food City is and um the school, the Harden Valley Academy, or actually the elementary school. And like I I'm able to look from north to south, and like I just see on the the hill, like all these apartments, and I'm like, oh my god. Because of the Facebook groups that I'm a member of that are Harden Valley based. Right, there, I mean, it's just can people please go away? And again, it goes with the whole I've said this about mostly Knoxville, I probably probably a little more just East Tennessee in general. Like this is the problem. It's it's develop first, infrastructure later.

SPEAKER_03 30:33

Right. You know, uh I feel like that's everywhere though.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

Well, I don't know about it. I'm I just can only look to my immediate area.

SPEAKER_03 30:41

I've not done any kind of urban study on you know, and then looking at it like growing up in Atlanta, like, oh my god, here we are at eight lanes, and we still can't get anywhere.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

No, right. No, I I mean, and it's like I'm not going down to Atlanta again until June 26th for a concert that I'm seeing. And I'm just like already dreading it.

SPEAKER_03 31:05

I love you, Atlanta, but man, you're a nuisance.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Heard. No, I debate I debate it all the time because there are times when I'm like trying to book flights, like international flights. I'm like, am I better off flying just directly from Atlanta than going from McGee Tyson connecting somewhere and then ending up there? It's and then like should be studied. No, I I I punch in the numbers, it's like, no, it's not any better just flying directly out of Atlanta. So now all of my travel this year is just we've just fly out of McGee Tyson.

SPEAKER_03 31:41

Oh, great. Which is I we were commenting this morning, they're making it seem like it's being bigger like you to do that.

SPEAKER_01 31:50

Yeah, and well, and this is this is exactly the reverse of what I say about Knoxville growth, in that McGee Tyson figured it out infrastructure first, then we'll add terminals. Like, let's get the parking squared away because it's already a disaster.

SPEAKER_03 32:05

Well, yeah, but I can't I never thought I'd see Southwest flying into fucking Alcoa. Well, yeah, that was awesome.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:16

I I love it.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

I do too. It's you know, it's um I'm kind of the like now, I've been hit and then this was Red who said this while we were I was dropping them off this morning. It's like, yeah, I think they're adding more terminals. And I'm like, oh really?

SPEAKER_03 32:35

Now now you have like two Ruby 2Cs now, right?

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Exactly. Or something else. Put a five guys in there, maybe, you know.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

Just anything else that serves alcohol coming from the drunk ass.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

It's um we were in that airport on a Friday night one time at nine, waiting on like an eleven o'clock flight, and everything was closed down. Everything. It's just like if I'm here, you kind of guys should be open.

Airport Lounges And Credit Card Perks

SPEAKER_01 33:10

So because of some of the credit cards I have with my business, I have, you know, Sky Lounge accesses and whatnot. And um so today, so my wife had requested that I get her an Amex business platinum she's on the account. She's not to use it. The only thing she's to use it for is if she needs to get into a centurion lounge at an airport. So, but the other benefit of the Platinum, the Amex Business Platinum is uh you can be a Delta Sky Miles Club person as well if you're flying on Delta.

SPEAKER_03 33:53

All right.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

And so apparently they didn't fly in on Delta, but they're flying out on Delta, but Delta Sky Miles wouldn't let them in. So my mother-in-law says in our group signal chat that we have yeah, we're at the lower lounge. I'm just like, oh my god, really? Like, how about no lounge at all? Are you kidding me? You know, without me, you don't have a lounge. Lower lounge. You know, I'm sorry, you know, but so like That's pretty terrible. I was pissed me off a little bit. Joan, goddammit. I love you though, Joan. No, it's no, it's it's so I have on another credit card, a Citibank card that's like American Advantage, so I like have the level where you're in the Admirals Club. So you get to so I can use that, I can use Delta Sky Miles, I can use Centurion. I think the only thing I don't have access to is United if they have one. I you know, but they're nice, they're really nice, like especially if you have a long layover. Yeah. So but anyway, so yeah, yeah. So the lower club. Jesus Christ. Telling you.

SPEAKER_02 35:05

Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ on a Sunday. Jesus Christ. That's just a liberal subliminal message. I'm presenting you to find the Lord. Play it backwards. Play it backwards. Oh my sweet Satan, Satan, Satan, Satan.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

And on that note. Oh no, we're only 35 minutes in. We we got more to go do.

SPEAKER_03 35:28

Oh, I don't know. I'm feeling it. That's a good 35.

SPEAKER_01 35:37

This is what happens when we get more than two drinks in again and then some.

SPEAKER_03 35:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

Um

YouTube Rabbit Holes And Gaming Limits

SPEAKER_01 35:46

what what traveling do you have on your path for this summer or over the next few months?

SPEAKER_03 35:54

I haven't been able to plan much, but I partial plan of flying down and then driving back up with his car for the summer.

SPEAKER_04 36:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:08

And that's all I've got. Oh well, and the Bruno Mars.

SPEAKER_04 36:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:13

But yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:14

That's all it's good.

SPEAKER_03 36:15

Yeah, no, it's fun.

SPEAKER_04 36:17

Good.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

You're giving me the denero good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. Yeah. Give you the denero. Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you why don't you tell me something special? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:33

You. You. You were listening to me. You. You're good, you.

SPEAKER_03 36:39

Have you seen the damn Pasci to Skeletor in the old He-Man cartoon? No. Oh man, I'm gonna have to send it to you. It's too much. That's hilarious. Oh, Skeletor is Joe Petty. Oh, so good.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Do you watch a lot of stuff on YouTube? Do you like get pulled into a YouTube uh vortex?

SPEAKER_03 37:03

Okay. I have not until today, my boozy Sunday uh allowed me to see uh the cooking guy that starts with a B. It's a YouTube channel guy.

SPEAKER_04 37:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:20

But like I'd never even thought about going into YouTube, nothing. But then all of a sudden I saw it and how it was going, like, oh okay, I get it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

Because we saw like three or four different like things that they are normally watching that I wouldn't. Right. But I got quickly introduced to them. Right. And it was, oh wow, that's so not direct TV. If that makes any sense. Right. You know what I mean? It's like we're we're off the beaten path. You know, you're not we're not gonna see you're not gonna see me on direct TV. Right. But I'm way better content and I have less commercials. Right. I I got introduced to that today.

SPEAKER_01 38:08

The um one that I really enjoy on on YouTube is there's this thing called pitch meeting, and so it's this guy where he plays himself as the executive producer and then he plays himself as the guy pitching the movie, and he they'll like just go through all these movies and just kind of and it's kind of like they're just skewering them a little bit. It's like, well, why do we have them doing it this way? Unclear, you know. But no, I think we would really need to set up the development of this character. I I think I need you to get all the way off my back. So this guy's hilarious, and so I'll just get pulled down a vortex of watching that shit. And then there may be some live music stuff, like you know, oh, I didn't know they had this clip of this band.

SPEAKER_03 38:51

Yeah, you know it's easy to go down a rabbit hole. Absolutely, and like all of a sudden you wake up, oh my god, it's four o'clock in the morning.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

No, no, that's no, that I have used that analogy as to why I'm not the biggest video gamer in the world because the potential is there, but like, so the one game that I'm really into playing, we have it on Xbox, I have it on my computer now, and I just don't play it at all because it'll be like, you know, we'll get done recording this. I'll be like, oh yeah, I'll play a little bit of Diablo, you know, Diablo 3. All right, Reaper of Souls. And like with any of the DD related games like that, I'm I'm done. Like so I start playing, and the next thing you know, it's like quarter to four in the morning, and I've got to work the next day, you know.

SPEAKER_03 39:40

I have an objective. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:42

I I just can't you and when you finally learn that about yourself, yeah it's it's uh it's you you just kind of say this. It's like being an addict. You just say, if I want to live, I just can't do this.

SPEAKER_03 39:55

You know, you have it, you're at a cross.

SPEAKER_01 39:57

So, like when I'm having a lunch with Todd Howard, who did Fallout and Elder Skyrim and Elder Scrolls and all that. Like, I don't even talk about video games with him at all because that's not my world. Yeah, I don't care. If you respect me, don't talk about that because all of a sudden I'll be back playing some DD related game until four o'clock in the morning, and I gotta work the next day. Fuck that.

SPEAKER_03 40:24

Talking about video games. Right. So you got a Batman Lego game that's about to come out.

SPEAKER_05 40:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 40:32

My whole family's ready for it. Just here we go. It's gonna be the game of the year. Batman, the legacy, yeah, Lego. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

Now we have well, one of the things like the kids got into. Are you okay?

SPEAKER_03 40:55

I'm fantastic. Okay, you can give in a shit what I just said. And it was amazing to see.

SPEAKER_01 41:02

No, I was segue, I was gonna tie in to what you just said to what and bring that in.

unknown 41:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

So when my kids, when we were starting off the divorce years, I'd gotten like this refund check for a mortgage or something like that. And I'm like, oh, I'm gonna buy each of the kids a DS. There's a refund check somewhere. I got I don't know how I got this check, but I was like, I'm not sneezing at it. So with that, I bought each of the kids a DS, and that's where kind of that was the beginning of our world changing a little bit. Because we had this Lego Batman DS game that Jeffrey was really into. Yeah. So when you say this like as a current movie, I'm like, wait, I haven't. It's not a movie.

SPEAKER_03 41:56

There's a new video game that's coming out like this will be the video game of the year. Is Lego has put out Legacy of Batman and it's all Lego. And it's it's I'm telling you, it's gonna be it's the tits.

SPEAKER_04 42:15

Okay. Alright, if you say so.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

I gotta get off. I gotta get off the roller coaster.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

Is that where you're at now on the roller coaster?

SPEAKER_03 42:26

Yeah, I gotta get off, man.

SPEAKER_01 42:29

Does this mean we have the ultra short episode of Two Drinks in again?

SPEAKER_03 42:34

We're 42 minutes in. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 42:38

I know. Really has been.

SPEAKER_05 42:40

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

And it's hold on. Oh my god, my my uh my battery on my watch went out. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 42:48

See?

SPEAKER_01 42:51

It's really only 8 30.

SPEAKER_03 42:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

Oh my god. Well, there you go. Yeah. Well, there you go. What else do we have to talk about here in this rambling 55th episode, the double nickel episode? Oh man. I think we learned something today, didn't we? We couldn't do the between show act, we can't do the between show activity and expect a quality level episode out of it. I will still release this.

SPEAKER_03 43:27

Well, we we admitted this was gonna be This was the outtakes. Yeah, this was the outtakes. This is what happens if we get more than two drinks in again. Oh yeah, no. This is why.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

No, like ever since I keep knocking us off, you know, like I'll hit the space bar by accident, it will shut the recording process off, and like we've riffed for forty minutes, it's like we've recorded none of that. Yeah. That is there's some genius material out there that is just lost forever.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

All four of you.

Neil Diamond And Pop Culture Flashpoints

SPEAKER_01 44:04

What kind of music are you listening to these days, if anything?

SPEAKER_03 44:08

Oh man, I just hit my shuffle on my on Pandora. Truly. Like I have established so many lists to where I hit shuffle and everything I need to hear comes apart. I mean, there it's pretty good. Always like all the every now and again, all of a sudden, boom, there'll be a Neil Diamond song, and I just get dialed in. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

Neil Diamond's the shit, man.

SPEAKER_03 44:37

Well, that's it, just it's my mom. Yeah. I hear it. Like once it comes out, like no matter what the song is. One, it's awesome. Like, if you don't like Neil Diamond, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

It's fucked up if you don't like Neil Diamond.

SPEAKER_03 44:50

Right. Like there's Neil Diamond's the shit. Like you can act like you, like, oh, I'm September Morn.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

I'm too cool for Neil Diamond. No.

SPEAKER_03 44:58

Right? But no. Listen to Neil Diamond and tell me you don't like that shit.

SPEAKER_01 45:02

Cherry Cherry. Oh, Cherry. It's all that so my parents had that album. It was it's called Taproot Mandusc Manuscript. Taproot Manduscript, and there was that song called Suleiman. But I remember they would just play it from start to finish, and I'm like, wow, that is. So there are albums like that that bet for better or for worse are the soundtrack to my growing up. Oh, I like it. So, but oh that no, Suleimol is over.

SPEAKER_03 45:32

Yeah. Neil Diamond, every time I stop.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:35

I I stop, truly.

SPEAKER_01 45:37

Like, and I and it's a have you watched the movie? Have you watched the movie with I did.

SPEAKER_03 45:43

Yeah, how was it? Okay. It was randomness.

SPEAKER_04 45:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:48

I don't know why. Have you seen it? No. Okay. Well then I'm not going to say anything. Other than randomness. Like it was not a it was not the movie that I was expecting.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

It wasn't the movie we were expecting, but it was the movie we deserved?

SPEAKER_03 46:10

No. I don't even think that. It was 75% of like this like rom-com almost kind of thing. And then what's the movie with certain realities started hitting, and then all of a sudden it's like, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_01 46:29

What the Yeah. Yeah. Like, wait a minute. What's the movie that's uh a karaoke contest, Gwynethro, Huey Lewis? Oh my god. What's I forget the name of the movie. They sing Cruisin.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

Yeah, I am I am blown away by Huey Lewis and Gwyneth Boucher because I've never thought about it until this second.

SPEAKER_01 46:58

There you go. Well, I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I just can't think of the what funny, kind of as a tangent to that, because we're good at that on this show. No. It's um I was telling the kids about I don't know how it came up. We were talking about Michael Jackson's thriller.

SPEAKER_03 47:15

Okay. Have you seen that movie?

SPEAKER_01 47:18

No, I haven't.

SPEAKER_03 47:19

Yeah. Me neither. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 47:21

Um I don't with him, there's so much fucked up shit around him and whatnot. And like, you know what? He was a problematic individual who turned out one of the greatest albums of all greatest couple of albums. I mean, he the whole King of Pop thing was bullshit when it first happened, but like, no, no, I I get it. No, I yeah, I get it. Um no, I've not seen it. Um you know, Michael's Michael's tough. Like, cause it's like, you know, if you believe everything that's alleged, you know, it's like, yeah, he's this musical genius who's also kind of a pedophile. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:03

Like awful.

SPEAKER_01 48:04

Yeah. And so, you know, but I go beyond that to say just all the interviews that I've seen and and everything, it's he is a true tragic figure, like just so fucked up more than we'll ever know. Oh, yeah, no, I guess. And and yet still able to command this genius. I I'll never forget it was watching that Motown 25th anniversary special when the moonwalk happened. And it was like, here, Thriller had just come out. We were all hearing the Paul McCartney Michael Jackson duet, The Girl is Mine. And it was like, okay, what the whatever the fuck, you know. And um, and then he did that moonwalk while he was doing Billy Jean, and that I think it saved an album, but like he did that moonwalk. I'm just like, what the fuck just happened? What just happened here? And so, and and and the thing is also before that, before he did that performance, like he was out there with the the rest of the Jackson brothers, um, doing songs like from when like I grew up watching that cartoon, The Jackson 5, you know, and so ABC and and Stop the Love You Give, and and I'm just like, yeah. And so, but he comes out with his brothers and he's like, he's a stop the love you give, baby, or something, you know, and I'm like, and I'm just like, and I was I remember seeing the camera come on this young African American male who was just losing his shit over all of it, and I'm like, no, I am with you 1000%. And that was before the moonwalk happened, and then the moonwalk happened, and I'm and seriously, like our world just went crazy after that.

SPEAKER_03 50:01

Can you imagine Michael Jackson with social media?

SPEAKER_01 50:05

Oh god, no. So it's funny when you think right, it's funny when you think about that because like Taylor Swift is Taylor Swift because of social media. Well, she was no, she used MySpace in a way that you could not believe.

SPEAKER_03 50:22

Yeah, no, she she definitely did that. So I yeah, I'm certain people like Madonna share even like if they had the ability to social media, to harness social media, yes. And they yeah, they did what I mean, they did it without it. I know that sound makes me just sound.

SPEAKER_01 50:45

No, no, no, no, no. No, I totally get what you're saying. No, it's they did like it's amazing how they created viral content before there was viral contract content.

SPEAKER_03 50:56

Right. They had a brand before brands were a thing. Right. And they had it.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

So like what I say about the cat our cat, Dahlia, is there are moments where she gets slutty and she rolls around, and like the joke I made was, well, it's like Madonna's like a virgin performance in 1984. And but that was a viral moment before there were viral moments. Like it just it's it's funny.

SPEAKER_03 51:22

For social media, we were tuned into the TV. Yes, it was all boobs.

SPEAKER_00 51:27

It helped if you it helped if you were.

SPEAKER_03 51:29

Well, but I mean you need to have it.

SPEAKER_01 51:31

There's so much pop, I mean, there are things that just happen in pop culture that I just love because sometimes they're just defining moments of a period of our lives. You know, I think about the Elvis 1968 comeback special and and the Beatles on Ed Sullivan, and just these are watershed moments. And for me, like I mean, for movies, I'll I mean, I was going into third grade when Star Wars came out, and I remember those doors parted and Darth Vader walk I was like falling in love. Yeah, it was it was just like what talk to me, talk to me, you know, like it was it was you know, you look at the effects now, and you're like 1977. I'm just like you have no idea, you know, the cultural significance. Like we had the whole tops cards that we collected, and and it uh it just and so I don't know if you have that many pop culture moments happening anymore, you know.

SPEAKER_03 52:41

It's hard to because we're so separated.

SPEAKER_04 52:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:45

You're not for me, you're not looking into one fo it's not like Walter Cronkite's gonna pop up and be like, hey, listen to this.

SPEAKER_01 52:53

Right. Well, no, I think for me the last recent pop culture moment for me was probably Will Smith smacking Chris Rock. Oh, that was that was something because I watched that happen in real time, you know, and it was just like, what the fuck just happened here?

SPEAKER_03 53:09

God, you know, at the worst moment to do that.

SPEAKER_01 53:14

Right. You're about to win the Oscar, like, and now nobody cares because of what you've just done, and now nobody's talking about you.

SPEAKER_03 53:24

All right, man, I gotta make it back eventually.

SPEAKER_04 53:29

Okay. Okay. Do we have any do we have anything else to talk

Closing Thoughts And A Simple Ask

SPEAKER_04 53:34

about? We probably always have something to talk about, but so to our listeners.

SPEAKER_01 53:42

To our listeners, we apologize if this has been a little all over the map and a little random and whatnot. But you know, it is what it is. Dave will never apologize. We you know what I will tell you this something we need you do need to think about. I think it would be great if we brought interview subjects on board as well. I think. Right. We've had this chair set here. Well, actually, the first time it was it was set here first when Stratch kind of walked in on us. We didn't interview him or anything like that. But then it just it stayed there since, and so we had Jimmy there, and the next person will sit there and hot seat. I'll move my music books, my billigeal music books and whatnot. Maybe. Maybe or not.

SPEAKER_05 54:34

Or not.

SPEAKER_04 54:35

You know, who knows? It kind of depends on my mind.

SPEAKER_01 54:38

You got anything enlightening to say before we go?

unknown 54:40

No.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

Look, friends, you know how it is. We just ask one thing of you.

SPEAKER_03 54:49

Be kind to each other, be decent to each other, you motherfucker. Yes. We're all going through it. Embraced. That's right. Okay, love you guys.