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Unlocking the Game-Changer Molecule C60 with Ken Swartz

• Dr. Susan Fox

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Get ready to unlock the secrets of a potent molecule that's been touted as a game-changer for fertility and health. Our guest today is Ken Swartz, founder and chief scientific officer of C60 Power. He's here to enlighten us about C60, a unique carbon molecule with a multitude of potential health benefits, including increased lifespan, anti-inflammatory properties, and intriguing implications for fertility.

Ken paints a compelling picture of how C60 acts as a powerful antioxidant, reducing inflammation, regenerating joints, and increasing stem cell levels; which can play a vital role in fertility. He also advises on the best way to consume C60—dissolved in oil. But not just any oil, it must have a purity level of 99.98% to harness its full potential. And if you're wondering about the science behind it all, Ken shares a personal anecdote about how he and his team used C60 to protect themselves from radiation exposure, proving its effectiveness in a real-world scenario.

But that's not all, our conversation probes deeper into C60's potential effects on brain health. C60's ability to resist toxins and UV radiation, coupled with its remarkable capacity to cross the blood-brain barrier, makes it an exciting area of study for neuroscience. Ken is careful to emphasize the safe dosage for C60 and advises how it can be best taken with food. So if you're intrigued by the possibility of a molecule that could potentially enhance fertility, improve overall health, and even safeguard our brains, don't miss out on our conversation packed with valuable insights from Ken Swartz. Tune in and discover the potential power of C60.

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to Health University podcast, where we understand that you are both the ever learning students as well as the master of your health, and with the proper information and education, you can make the best choices for your transformation. I'm your host, dr Susan Fox. I'm a woman's health expert and specialist for more than 20 years in private practice and, having heard just one too many times the lament if I only knew when a woman is facing reproductive or personal health challenges I've decided that now is the time to bring together discussions on what it means and what it takes to live a healthy life. Health University brings guests of a variety of medical and healthcare experts, including MD, obgyns, reproductive endocrinologists, doctors of traditional and natural medicines such as Chinese Ayurveda, naturopathic physicians, doctors specializing in mind body health, pelvic floor specialists, nutritionists, psychologists, sex therapists, all of whom have pearls of wisdom that give you an edge on how to improve your whole health, your reproductive health, the health of your relationships, weaving together the whole cloth of what it takes to live a vital, healthy and happy life. So stay tuned, because class is about to begin.

Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to another episode of Health University, where we believe that knowledge is power and, if we give you the right education and information, you can take that for your own transformation and do your best work in the world. I am delighted and so honored to have with me today Mr Kin Swartz, and Kin is the founder and chief scientific officer of C60 Power, and C60 is a product that I've been taking myself for the last several years and it is remarkable in my own experience. Now this is a series on fertility, so I am not speaking about myself insofar as fertility is concerned. We'll have Kin back for other series to talk about the variety of ways in which it can help but the purposes of this fertility series. I would love to have Kin's ideas and recommendations as to how, when and why C60 should be a part of our apothecary when we're trying to conceive. So, kin, welcome and again thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 2:

Well, glad to be on.

Speaker 1:

Thank you. Would you mind telling us a little bit about how C60 came to your awareness and how it is that you developed this amazing product, what it is, how to use it, and so on and so forth?

Speaker 2:

Oh well, it's a C60 is like a molecule of carbon. It's 60 atoms of carbon, shaped exactly like a little soccer ball, and it was discovered in 1985 by Harry Croto, richard Smolley and Robert Curl and they got a Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1996 for its discovery. But it was kind of hard to make. So it wasn't until the early 2000s that they really started to do scientific studies and in one of the famous studies, the Botry study, one of the originals, they found that it actually increased animal lifespan by 90%. Oh, wow, yeah, and that was with Wister Rats. So how I came to it is it's a powerful. One of the reasons they found it's a very powerful antioxidant and that's kind of its key thing.

Speaker 2:

And I was working on a fusion reactor project and you know there had been a lot of late doctors this and 10 professors that associated with that kind of fusion and so I went looking for another radiation protector for my team and myself and I read about this stuff called Carbon 60 and some scientific studies and they basically gave one set of rats C60, the other set of rats. The controls got nothing. They hit them with a fatal dose of radiation. Pretty much all the C60 rats lived with control rats that didn't get any. They immediately died and so and radiation causes oxidative radicals. That's why it's damaging, because it knocks protons and oxygen off, various atoms in your body, molecules in your body.

Speaker 2:

So I got a couple of sources of C60 for my team and myself and we're all still around, by the way, so I guess it worked as a release. It's working. Something unexpected happened and that's what I went to see my optometrist about, because I kept using it afterwards, because it gave me a little more energy, better mental clarity and the after you blodged you get after you eat lunch and won't take a nap, they kind of went away. So I went to go to my optometrist and my Drus, or Dry Backer Regeneration, had completely disappeared.

Speaker 1:

That's fascinating.

Speaker 2:

Well, he had never seen that before. He was many years of practice so. But in the meantime one of my electrical engineer on the job, Harry Gittery Rodriguez, had developed severe wet-mackery degeneration. So I made a C60 mixture of in there, dissolved it in MCT coconut oil because Rodriguez he also had type 2 diabetes and MCTs can be turned into ketones by your liver very quickly. So it's a great energy source for athletes, but a lot of the glucose processing issues also uses it, and after taking a tablespoon of C60 and MCT oil for a year his wet-mackery degeneration went a completely way.

Speaker 1:

Isn't that fascinating. Wow, I can actually link a little bit with Chinese medicine about the macular degeneration part and that the liver processing all of these toxins and therefore getting all of this help we say in Chinese medicine opens to the eyes. So isn't it curious that both of you had these vision issues that got healed by healing your physiology and clearing yourself of all of the toxins, of the free radical damage that had created the symptoms in the first place?

Speaker 2:

And so C60 has been it's still coming to understand it, but like one of the things that, as we've found, it's what's called an SOD superoxide disc, butase, slash, catalase, mimic, and it deals with the oxidative radical called superoxide, that's an oxygen with an extra electron, because oxidative damage is basically your body resting. So obviously an oxygen with an extra electron, well, that's going to cause some damage. And also C60 deals with the hydroxyl radical, that's basically a water molecule with the proton missing, so it's got a free electron. That kind of tears the things. And so those two, those are the two most damaging oxidative radicals in your body.

Speaker 1:

And how do we get them?

Speaker 2:

Well, like, for instance, super oxides made in the mitochondria, mitochondria, the energy powerhouses of the cell. They're making ATP and a whole bunch of other things like a pregnant needle and precursors for RNA and D synthesis. And so they make, like you know, their powerhouse. They make a pollution and super oxides. One of them and usually your body makes super oxide just be taste S-O-D, which turns the super oxide into hydrogen peroxide. Then catalyze turns hydrogen peroxide back into a water and oxygen kind of completing the cycle there and so. But the problem is, as we get older, our S-O-D and catalyze levels drop. Just you know they're part of the inevitable process of aging.

Speaker 2:

And there's certain endogenous antioxidant you can't get from diet. They have to be made in the body, and catalyze and S-O-D are two of them. Glutathion is kind of one of them too. There's a little bit of supplementation out for glutathion, but it's still pretty preliminary, doesn't always get to where it needs to go. So when you take C-60, c-60 passes the gut barrier, it passes the blood-brain barrier, it's taken into the cells by endocytosis. Then it's taken into the mitochondria and they know how to use it. So when you take C-60, your mitochondria restart back up in a big way.

Speaker 1:

This is fascinating for me and I'm presuming, for the listeners who we're hearing already out there, that you know that the basis for or a basis for fertility challenge has to do with mitochondrial dysfunction at the level of the follicle inside of the ovary. So if we can really help reverse, arrest and reverse this superoxide activity so that we can then let the mitochondria heal and become their powerhouse again, you tell me if I'm correct in presuming that we can then therefore presume that mitochondria will function better in the next woman's ovulation.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yes, and that's the key. Yes, the mitochondria, you're making ATP. But the other thing mitochondria do and this is especially important for the cells of the endocrine system is the mitochondria make pregneed alone. They're precursor molecule for all the hormones. So when you take C-60, your mitochondria restart. You're getting the ATP which is energy for cells, but you're also getting that pregneed alone which is then turned into whatever type of hormone your body needs. And so people that take C-60, you'll get like more better sleep because you're making more melatonin in your pitiogram. They'll get more human growth hormone and other master hormones from your atuotera hypothalmos complex. They'll get more T3 and T4. And also, probably the most important for this is you'll get more in the adrenal system and the adrenals make three things.

Speaker 2:

They make gluocorticoids, which balance the blood sugar. For instance, my friend Gary is type two diabetes what's self-clinical? And that's a large part due to gluocorticoids and certain other hormones that are made in the small intestines. Most people don't know that the small intestine is also hormone producing in Oregon. And then the other one is you also make mineral corticoids, which is, by the way, a counter indication for C-60.

Speaker 2:

C-60, when it restarts your adrenals and the mineral corticoids, if you're taking a blood thinner, the underlying cause of your blood being both thick can go away, and so if you're on a blood thinner, your blood can be too thin. So you need to consult with a doctor before taking C-60. If you are on a blood thinner. It's really more test-me-in. C-60 doesn't happen overnight. It's gonna take a month or two. Took for seven months for my macorrheic generation to go away Somewhere around that for Gary, as it was like a year. So this stuff is not gonna happen next week or overnight. It takes a little time. But and then, of course, the third thing the adrenals make, which we're talking about, is the antergens. And the antergens they go out and they're put into the bloodstream. And they're put into the bloodstream, taken up by the ovaries and the testes and they're turned into testosterone or progesterone or estrogen or some of the other ones that are necessary, and so that's one of the things that C60 does.

Speaker 1:

That's fascinating, and I've heard both that this is a fact and I've heard that it is fiction that the levels of excess cortisol in our body will do something what's called I've heard the term pregnant alone steel. Does this make any sense to you? Yes, I understand it.

Speaker 2:

Some people claim that it isn't, but we I'm not so sure that pregnant alone. It's produced generally inside the cells and then the cells converted to whatever. So there may be something that, but there's probably some pregnant alone which is secreted into the bloodstream, maybe exosomes or something. Put it out there in packages, so we really don't know.

Speaker 1:

But one thing we do know about C60. Yes, go ahead. Yeah, one thing we do know about C60 is.

Speaker 2:

It causes a large increase in libido in both men and women.

Speaker 1:

Well, that and that's necessary. Yes, it is. That's a necessary component for natural baby making, that's for sure. Well, the reason I raised the question about cortisol is that, of course, women and couples going through fertility challenge are stressed. The environment that we live in in our modern day world is stressful. It's all raising our cortisol levels that we're being exposed to EMS and other toxins in our daily lifestyle. How would you say C60 can help mitigate some of that?

Speaker 2:

Well, it's a super anti-oxidant protective and a lot of those like, for instance, because C60 neutralizes the hydroxyl ion and that's the primary ion created by radiation. That's why it was used as radiation protection. And then the superoxide. Now, one of the other things is those two, that's the only two oxidative radical C60 works with. It doesn't interact with any other oxidative radicals, because there's a lot of oxidative radicals that are important to your body's signaling system, like nitrogen oxide. That's a vasodilator. That's really important, guys. Yes, it is you know right.

Speaker 2:

And this fertility concept, so you don't want to interfere with that. And also there's hydrogen peroxide and then some others based around sulfur and iodine zinc. They're lower energy, but C60 doesn't interfere with any of the body's signaling molecules that are oxidative radicals like those the ones I mentioned. And so C60 is the only antioxidant you can take which actually increases athletic performance, because they've done meta studies of vitamin C, vitamin E and vitamin A, which are antioxidants. But the problem is, if you get too much of them, it starts interfering with that signaling molecules and then performance goes down and performance is not.

Speaker 1:

That was my next question. We know that our ACE, zinc, selenium are all antioxidant molecules. Is there an issue with taking one's prenatal plus taking C60?

Speaker 2:

OK, well, I can't. C60 is not an FDA approved substance, so you can look at the scientific literature. There's a website called whatisc60.org. On our site, shopc60.com, we can post human studies. They've shown things like well, the first use of C60 was in a cream and it reduces lines and wrinkles in Japanese women and the reason we discovered that. And then later there's all kinds of things that got to it, for instance. I'm not going to do a roundabout story, but they did a study Because C60 is a great antioxidant, so that's what primary use was originally. So what they did is they gave rabbits arthritis, and that's what scientists do. And so then the course of rabbits had inflammation. They injected C60 into the joints of the rabbits, but of course the inflammation went way down and which was expected right, that's something. When they examined the joints, they actually found the C60 restarted or healed up. The joints regrew themselves. And then they went and they studied that and they discovered that C60 increases stem cell levels, huge increase in stem cell levels, bingo.

Speaker 2:

And I can go into the story of how they discovered that we're all still doing the C60 stuff. This is all the last, like 10, 15 years, all the studies of C60. So it's a very young substance.

Speaker 1:

Well, this is also one reason that I wanted to have you on, ken is that my personality since I was a child is a little bit of I knew something you don't know, but when I do, when it is for me or about me, I can't help but share it. I can keep everybody else's secret to the grave, but if I learn of something that is just not out there yet that can be helpful, I really feel it is just incumbent upon me and I just can't shut up about it, and nor do I want to, because I really think that these are the kind of things that become the medicine of the future. And so to just zip it until there are enough double blind, placebo-controlled studies, I just think that that is for me unethical. I need to share what I know so that people can get a head heads up or a leg up or an ovary up, because so many couples we see.

Speaker 1:

This is that there is an epidemic of infertility, both female and male, and male factor is more of the reactive oxidative species, the byproducts of perhaps the less than healthy way of living, or cell phones in the pocket or whatever else might be. So if taking something as simple as C60 can help reverse that, then I want the world to know about this. What form do you find is best for people to take? Is it oral? I know I personally enjoy the gummies because I love my candy. The sugar-free tart cherry gummies are my favorite, but I also put a little bit of the MCT in my coffee in the morning and then I use the serum on my eyes and around my lips because, as a woman of a certain age, I want to not show that to the world.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, c60 is the only type of C60 which has any health-beneficial effects is C60 that's dissolved either in oil or some other substance, and so, yeah, the particles of C60 won't do you any good. There's things that you see and you have to be careful, because when C60 was a very small thing, there's only a couple of companies making it. We were one of them. Everything was fine, but then it became really popular and so we got all these fly-by-nighters. Yeah, you're looking for C60 dissolved in oil. What you're looking for is 99.99% or 99.98%, something around that, because of pure C60, because that's the C60 that comes from sublimation.

Speaker 2:

Sublimation is the cousin of evaporation. It's when a solid turns into a gas and back into a solid, and that happens in a sublimator, and we have sublimated C60, because that's the type of C60 that we want. A lot of C60 is made with solvents, methylbenzene not what you want to have in your body, and so we don't use that kind. We don't use solvabase C60, because what happens is, well, it's the worst part of it is that people go out there and they see 99.9% pure C60, or 99.5% C60. The other problem is that 0.5%, that 0.1%, that's methylbenzene. So really, what you want to look for is sublimated C60.

Speaker 2:

And then, just as the first look, we're sublimated, that 99.98 or something. Because that's what sublimation does. It's a very pure purification process. Then we come to the oils. We kind of have the Goldilocks there. We kind of have the oils that are just kind of right because they're just some oils. We don't want stuff in Come on, no-transcript soybean oil, sunflower oil, soybean oil, that could go on right. Those are those seed oils omega-6 rich, very inflammatory. If you're trying to have it looking for fertility problems and cortisol level load, you don't want any seed oils in your diet. That's basically Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Then on the other side there's things like fish oil and hemp seed oil and flax seed oil, which are really high in omega-3s, which is great, but they go rancid really quickly. In fact, any of those oils you should always buy from the refrigerated section of your health food store. If fish oil off the shelf, generally it is rancid, just as a rule, buy it refrigerated, melt it by off the shelf.

Speaker 1:

Even if it's in the gel cap form. I know that many will buy the gel cap form. Is it stabilized that way, or is it also a cautionary deal?

Speaker 2:

I just think it should come out of the refrigerated section because you don't know how long it's been on there. It might be okay if it comes in all right from the fish to the thing, but it's been sitting there six months. You got a problem. We put it in the Goldilocks of oils. All the research originally was done in olive oil. We offered an extra virgin, 100% organic olive oil because olive oil is well characterized. We know it's healthy for you. It's a Mediterranean diet. One of the things about olive oil it's a little bit, it's a little strong. If I took an ounce of olive oil I might have to go visit the bathroom after oil. What I put it in, which we can't see here, is avocado oil, because avocado oil is very easily digested. I could take a lot more avocado oil than I could with olive oil. Then, of course, I also put it in. Well, I put it in M-C-T coconut oil. We have it in a big bag here. Here's a kind of sea.

Speaker 2:

It's infertile. We call it I used to call it product C60 purple power, and I was just purple C60 power, because when you dissolve C60 in M-C-T oil, which is like a clear as water, it turns it purple. So that's that.

Speaker 1:

But I put it in the M-C-T. That's a beautiful shade. It's what I use and I love it. It's like it just gives a little extra something to my spirit, I suppose when I see this purple power.

Speaker 2:

Then the final thing. One of the things you're looking for is you may see the little QR code on our software labels we're actually going to get that embossed on the?

Speaker 1:

container itself, eventually.

Speaker 2:

But it's a QR code, so what you can do is you can scan that in on your product and you can go to a website which will show you. It'll show you, like the oils, that the oils are 100% organic and you know a farm source. You go right to a source you know from a farm and also afterwards we send it to third-party testers who tested for concentration and purity, no microbiologics and stuff like that, so you can know that your product is safe and effective.

Speaker 1:

That's hugely important. Listeners, you know, we have to know that what's on the bottle is what's in the bottle, is what will be working inside of our bodies, because so often it's a wild west out there and you can, you know, you can think you're getting a deal at Amazon or whatever, but you could be actually making your problem worse by just taking in something that is not healthy for you. Now, this is for your fertility.

Speaker 2:

We do have one other product.

Speaker 1:

Oh cool.

Speaker 2:

It's called T60. Sexy, yes, edible, massage oil, nice. There's two jobs at once, nice. More into that Beautiful. And also another thing which you like, I know, susan, you like the. These are the sugar-free gummies. We also added the sugar for those purists. The light, noble style, and it's allulose.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, which I mean allulose is in my opinions, just so you know it's it's. There's no downside to taking it aside from you know, perhaps if you take too much you might have some digestive difficulty, but you really have to take a lot. I mean, I put allulose into baked goods and, you know, at much higher doses that are sprinkling the outside of these yummy gummies and still haven't had enough.

Speaker 2:

You know a little fold down thing there and here's like the gummy. This is one or two gummies that you're probably working in for slowly, two gummies in the morning. You also want to take in the morning C60, when it gets in there and ramps all those mitochondria up and you, you know people get, get going and stuff and so you don't want to take it late at night because it can keep you on.

Speaker 1:

It can be too stimulating. Okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

And another, yeah, another thing that's uh, yeah, that C60 does is because C60 is an antioxidant that gets in there like inflammation. There's, there's, there's acute inflammation. You just strain, sprain your ankle, it swells up. You know the the, you know and also you know which stops you from stepping up. But also, inflammation suppresses dopamine and that's the motivation molecule, that's the molecule that gets you out of bed in the morning, and so a lot of people have chronic inflammation. It could be in the joints, it could be in the gut, it could be all kinds of places, and C60 can. What C60 does? It stops those oxidant radicals of the super oxides and those hydroxylans which are very damaging, from damaging tissues and various things, and if cells don't get damaged, they don't send out cytokines, and then the neurofills, the phagocytes and all the uh macrophages don't come in there and cause a whole, you know, giant, overblown reaction.

Speaker 1:

Autoimmune reaction right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so people, when people take C60, it puts down that, uh, and also it also moderates the release of mass of histamines from mass cells, so kind of it moderates the, the immune response, to a more rational way, because now the cells, the immune cells themselves, have enough energy to do things the correctly, and so it'll lift that oxidative burden that your cells are under, so your dopamine levels arise.

Speaker 2:

It's one of the side effects when people start taking C60 is they have like, uh, un-controllable desires like clean the house or the garage and do something, all those things that have been sitting there. That motivation comes back and then they off off to do things that have been sitting on the back.

Speaker 1:

Another reason to take it in the morning, so you're not running the vacuum while everybody else is trying to sleep people. Yes, I have a question. That just just a road. We're talking about inflammation, cytokines, um crossing the blood brain barrier, um, so, and you reported that you know people feel a sense of uplift, um, do, do. Are there study? Are there studies that have been done, or can they even be done, to show a decrease at a damping down or tamping down of brain inflammation when taking C60?

Speaker 2:

Uh, well, they've. They've shown on all kinds of that with animal studies which are not directly translated. You know this is not an FDA and obviously FDA says you can't translate animals. So that's why you need to go to what is C60.org to see all that stuff. So so it's done now, like in human studies. It like, for instance, um it, it regulated it to moderate the recent histamines from mass cells and other other things.

Speaker 2:

It could use human cells not chest to you, by the way so we did post those, like they put it. So they have human nerve cells and then they gave some of C60 and they exposed them to toxins. And so the ones with C60 resisted the toxins and weren't damaged, whereas controls, of course, that didn't have any C60, were damaged. Uh, they say the same. They showed out with immune cells and also human skin cells were exposed to UV radiation. When they had C60, they were resistant against the damage from UV radiation, where the other cells were damaged. So basically any. And also during the botry study they had five and a half years In fact, last few of the C60 rats in an accident so that they could actually publish their study. But during that time they did some other tests and we did one where they gave rats they gave. You know, one set of rats got C60, the other didn't. They exposed them to carbon tetrachloride, which I don't know if your audience doesn't know. It was one of the nastiest chemicals out there and very damaging.

Speaker 2:

They used to use it in like dry cleaning and then they should apply oh, yes, yes, yes, and they're a big thing, yeah, and then they've had to shut down the walls all over the place because carbon tetrachloride is so nasty. But the rats that got C60 resisted any damage to the livers by the carbon tetrachloride, whereas control rats had severe lesions and stuff. So it really protects against, because a lot of those poisons, those toxins they aren't the toxins that does the damage. It's as that toxin breaks down your body. It produces a lot of oxidative radicals, high energy oxidative radicals because those carbon chloride binds are really strong and so all of these oxidative radicals goes spewing out there and then that causes the cascade of damage. You get C60, it stops that cascade before it starts and so it allows you to resist or be undamaged by toxins that otherwise would do damage to you.

Speaker 1:

So you actually have examples for yourself and your associate of intervention of the macular disease, but then it is a really good prevention, so that yeah.

Speaker 2:

And there is a lot of see. One of the things C60 does increase. There's been C60 babies. Actually it happens a lot. We can't recommend taking C60 to pregnancy because we're ordering nursing, because we don't have any studies on that. There have been people who have done it anyway all the way through and they've had really healthy, though rather large babies.

Speaker 1:

Oh my, so that's yeah Well, we do the same with all of our supplements. You know we just sort of defer to Mother Nature unless there's some real medical intervention that is warranted to continue care through pregnancy they did toxicity studies on C60.

Speaker 2:

What it is a C60? In animal studies and the short of human studies it's about 0.1 milligrams per kilogram of body weight. It's bound to be a health efficacious dose. You know 0.2, 0.3, something like that. So they wanted to test where C60 is really toxic. So they took it up to one gram per kilogram of body weight. That's 10,000 times the health beneficial dose now, and they found even at that level there was no toxicity. If you had tried to do that with vitamin E or vitamin A or maybe even C, it probably would have been fatal to the test animals. But with C60, still no toxicity at all. So that's just kind of giving you the idea, because the only reaction with those two oxidative radicals and nothing else, no minerals, no supplements, no pharmaceuticals, nothing, just those two oxidative radicals and that's it.

Speaker 1:

And what about heat versus room temperature versus chilled anything? No, it just. It is stable. No, it doesn't. It won't make a difference.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it won't make a difference on that. Yeah, if it gets hot, c60 actually extends. So we have like two years on our product. But we have stuff like MCT oil. That's still good after six years because C60 is an antioxidant and so oxidative damage takes out oil. So actually, but we're not gonna do more than two years because that's the lifespan from the farm. So even if C60 extends that, we're just gonna use that level that the farm put out. I see, which ever oil it is.

Speaker 1:

Very good. So is C60 best taken apart from food? With food we got the morning time.

Speaker 2:

It's well like. Obviously you take it in a gummy, right, it's also got packed in there, that's never a problem. You took one or two of those in the morning. You get to go on doing great. Now sometimes with MCT oil. It has it's kind of it's, you know, it kind of goes through there quickly. So if you've never taken MCT oil before straight, mix it with food. That's fine. Or olive oil or avocado, you can mix it with food in the morning. Put it in your smoothie, as you did. You put it in your coffee, you know, kind of a paleo coffee. That's perfectly fine too Sure, it's absorbed faster if you, you know, take it straight. But if you've never taken it all straight before, don't do that, you know. Put it in your food and then gradually, you know kind of work your way into taking it straight if you want to do that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, excellent. Anything that I'm not asking about, because clearly you have a plethora of knowledge on this that you would say. You know what, by the way, these fertility folks might want to understand this about C60 or about why they may be struggling with fertility and how and why C60 should be considered.

Speaker 2:

I think the key thing is that C60, you know, restarts the mitochondria. Mitochondria make the big need alone. And, by the way, the cells, the endocrine system, have actually the highest levels of mitochondria in the body, and then I used to think it was different. Then the brain cells, they have the second.

Speaker 2:

I mean the brain has 2% of your body weight, but it is 20% of your energy. But your endocrine cells are actually always corrected and are actually even more mitochondria deaths, so anything. So, of course, muscle cells too, like the heart, no other things. They're full of mitochondria, so those are kind of the real cell types that help, which is exactly what you're looking for for children.

Speaker 1:

And we had talked about how C60 can be. Somebody who's on any type of blood thinner for any medicinal reason or medical reason should be aware that C60 can require a decrease in that medication. So that that person should consult with their medical doctor and just be monitored. I mean, how lovely would that be that you have to lower your dose of blood thinning medication because you don't need it anymore.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and one of the things, by the way, pregnealone is made from LDL cholesterol, so when you take C60, your LDL levels drop because your pregnealone production is going up. That's why, in fact, people get too much LDLs, because as you get older, your mitochondria are working as much but they're still making your body, still making LDL, and so it's not being used up and then it hangs around, it's oxidized, it sticks to your plaque and your arteries.

Speaker 1:

So this has me think of the PCOS gal, right Her. You know, oftentimes her metabolic dysregulation has her having higher insulin, higher LDL perhaps, and the docs are popping her onto metformin, which I like to say you know, disrespect. But is that another medication that then perhaps might need to be a doctor?

Speaker 2:

Oh, yes, yeah, we'd be, yeah probably you know an artery because it would raise but the pregnealone goes up, the LDL goes down and also, but also I think people really need saturated fatty acids. You need to say like from fish, from beef, from whatever. You need those because in your brains, like 40% cholesterol, you need that for for key. And then you know they've been given the beta blockers and everything to give them. Take that out of our, but that's, that's the key stuff you need. And there is no evidence that you know. A lot of the evidence that they claim was really bad studies.

Speaker 1:

I know, I know it's it's, it's heartbreaking, but and we have to be, you know, we have to be careful and judicious about about how we, how we Refute or argue against it. But I guess I could see that if somebody were following her doctor's advice and doing a, you know, a lower fat diet and on metformin, because she's PCO, because she's got elevated LDL, if she's taking C60 and, as you say, pregnant needle and pregnant needle, no, it goes up, ldl goes down. Her levels will start to show it. I just want to make sure she's not, you know, continuing to take the same dose.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I'm thinking about it and without consulting with her doc, because you know just they say test.

Speaker 2:

Don't guess exact just need more testing, said, of the six month testing go to a three month testing or two month testing, and actually that faster testing can also help you monitor what's going on in your body because you know, get one of those broad spectrum tests, we see all kinds of things that are going on because you know C60 is very specific About what it does and it's a factual body, but there's other things always going on and it's good just to know what's going on in there and you get that you're testing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, great, thank you. That's actually very sage advice, and then we're kind of getting close to our wrap up, but I want to make sure that you have a chance to share with the listeners. You know when can they find you with, where can they find more about you? Is there a way they can, you know, ask direct questions? We'll have a you know Q&A up an opportunity in the podcast delivery itself, but I want to make sure people can reach you if they need well, yes, we got.

Speaker 2:

So we are. Our website is shop C60 comm. So if you go to support at shop C60 comm, that'll you can. You can go there and leave questions and there's the pinks. Also, if you go to our website, you sign up for a newsletter that puts you into sales and also a lot of different offers. People come in. You know, like you, that have a various things that they're doing and and it'll link to some more informational stuff so you could FAQs. And we also have a YouTube, a site called C60 purple power or old product name, and we have like over 200 videos there of FAQs, all about C60.

Speaker 1:

Beautiful and, once again, the purple part was that when, when the C60 goes into the MCT, it's yes, it's its color to purple? That was one of my first questions to kin.

Speaker 2:

I thought yes, it is, and like it with the yeah, and with olive oil or avocado oil turns up in the dark amber and then you should be looking for. If you buy any C60 product, it should be either a dark amber or dark or the purple color and clear. There's people selling that basically because particles of C60 have no benefit. It has to be dissolved. So there's all kinds of people out there. You gotta, you gotta know what you're doing. And that's also what is C60 dot org. If you really want to know the full science stuff, you can go there and they have the human and animal studies and also Studies with particles showing that they don't give you any benefits. It's got to be dissolved. C60 Gotcha in the right form to be biologically affected.

Speaker 1:

I want to repeat that because I think it's important to take away the. The liquid must be clear. If it's in MCT, it will become a purple clear. If it's in avocado, it will become an amber clear, and so if you're pouring this out and you're not seeing those colors, yeah, it's black as you don't don't swallow.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot of people out there that they basically they put activated charcoal because, like in the burnt wick of a candle there's 0.25 percent C60, but you'd have to eat a lot of burnt wicks and candles Charcoal. There's a little tiny bit of C60, like zero, one percent. They have these people that basically put activated charcoal in an oil and then sell it as if it's a C60 product. And yes, there's 0.1 percent C60 in that product, but you know you need 99.99 percent. It's it's. It's just there's nothing wrong with that, the native charcoal, but you know that's not C60.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, take it as a binder. You don't take it for C60. Oh can, thank you so much. I really am really grateful, can't wait to have you back, because I know we just barely skin the surface, but I want to be respectful of your time, the listener's time, so my, take a ways and add on to anything. If I, if I'm incorrect, is that how C60 is most beneficial is at the level of the mitochondria it is going to. It is a, it is going to reduce oxidative stress and damage for men and women. And so you know, share, share and share like yes, and and it is, it is. I think I heard you say that, that, that, that the side effect, if you will, the, is that it raises dopamine. So you're feeling better, you're feeling more active, you're feeling juicier, you wanting to do what it takes to have that.

Speaker 2:

Increases libido and that's probably from the big increase in testosterone and estrogen and progester. And when you know the androgen production, your deringles goes up, the androgens go to the bloodstream, they're picked up by the ovaries of the chesties or whatever and then boom. So that's another side effect which is important.

Speaker 1:

A beneficial side effect, to be sure. Well, once again, thank you so much for your time. Listeners, look for everything in the bio and in the comments section and we can take it from there. Thank you so much, ken. Thanks for listening to today's episode. We hope that you, too, found the gold in this conversation and can implement some takeaways into your everyday life To improve your health and your life. Be sure to subscribe so that you don't miss an episode, and to click on the links providing additional resources and gifts to this episode. See you next time on health. University Class dismissed.