Vitamin G for Fertility with Dr. Gina Nick

Every single cell in our body needs glutathione.  Most of us are low without knowing it. 

Dr. Gina Nick is a naturopathic physician, researcher, and the world's leading expert on glutathione, which she has penned “Vitamin G”.  She joins Dr. Susan Fox to talk about why this master antioxidant keeps showing up at the center of unexplained infertility, recurrent pregnancy loss, and autoimmune dysfunction that standard labs keep missing.

She explains that glutathione lives inside the mitochondria of every cell, what happens when environmental toxins and aging deplete it, and why the form you take matters as much as the amount. More is not always better with this one. 

They also get into perimenopause, Hashimoto's thyroiditis, what Tylenol does to your glutathione levels, and why this conversation matters for male factor fertility too. 

This episode is for you if 

• you've been told your infertility is unexplained and something still doesn't feel resolved 
• you've had recurrent losses or failed transfers and want to know what else to look at
•  you have a known or suspected autoimmune condition 
• you're preparing for an IVF cycle and want to know what you can do before, during, and after
•  you're in your late thirties or early forties and starting to notice perimenopause symptoms you want one simple, practical thing you can start today.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 1:25

Hello and welcome to today's episode of Health University. And today we're going to talk about the importance of a particular vitamin that I that I'm so excited to have, the expert on this vitamin to talk with us about it. And especially insofar as it relates to fertility, unexplained infertility, the diminished ovarian reserve patient, someone who's um who's like who should be able to get pregnant and is struggling. Let me please introduce Dr. Gina Nick. Dr. Gina Nick is a naturopathic physician. She's a researcher, a wellness educator, and she is the world's leading expert on glutathione. Vitamin G. She's also the founder of vitamin G glutathione pixie sticks, which are delicious, by the way, an innovation designed to make glutathione accessible in a joyful and simple format. So welcome, Dr. Gina. Thank you for joining us today.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

Thank you so much for having me, Dr. Susan.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

My pleasure. My pleasure. And as I mentioned, and as you know, you know, most of our viewing and listening audience is uh attentive to is struggling with infertility. And oftentimes they are the person who is, you know, older than 35, possibly secondary infertility, has had a healthy, successful pregnancy or two, but is struggling for another one. And oftentimes is being diagnosed with unexplained because the lab tests look good, the you know, the uh uh an HSG or a high SOFO is showing all all everything's clear, male factors have been attended to, but she's still coming up short. That plus recurrent implantation failure, recurrent pregnancy loss. So let's talk about that if we can, because I know you've got science and ideas and um and strategies as to how to uh identify, address, and and fix some of these problems. So, what what what are some of your thoughts about this? And how does vitamin G, glutathione, come into play?

SPEAKER_00 3:33

So um, we were talking just before we began uh recording about the role that autoimmune conditions are playing in women's health in general, and very definitely as it relates to issues with fertility, you know, in in this subset of the female population. And so I think look really looking closely at autoimmune reactions and how they're causing this situation. And so when when does the body start to attack itself? You know, what happens, what's going haywire? And I oftentimes will bring it back to the mitochondria of our cells, the powerhouse of our cells, where energy is manufactured, where free radicals, toxins that we're exposed to, whether it's through the environment, through viral attack, fungal attack, mold, etc., it's where those free radicals also congregate. You know, it's where the DNA is housed. There's so much happening there. And oftentimes looking at how do we identify if there's an issue there, and then what are some of the best ways to help heal those mitochondria, deliver to the mitochondria of our cells what they need so that they can function properly and produce healthy energy for ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

Well, I like that conversation much better than here's an immunosuppressant, and let's let's power forward with an IVF, you know, uh uh schedule so that we can get the embryos, transfer the embryos because what's what's still unattended is the root cause.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

Yes, yes, and then what happens there? I was just seeing a patient yesterday where went through IVF and she had some autoimmune issues that were suppressed, and then successful uh pregnancy and and birth, thank goodness. And now her child has type one diabetes, right? So we're dealing with it all, you know, and and and she's four years old, it's extremely traumatic. And and so, and you know, you just wonder if there's any connection there. Right.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Good book, because type one is an autoimmune condition. Autoimmune condition. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

And so yeah, um with everything in life, you look at nature and you look at the body, you're always trying to strive for balance, I think, right? And so with the immune system, we're looking at how do you get back to a place of balance. So not necessarily suppressing the immune system because it's attacking itself or putting the immune system into hyperdrive. You know, we want to find that that healthy balance. And that's where again, feeding the mitochondria of our cells with what they need in order to function properly will help to bring the entire body back into balance, you know, but will help to produce healthier uh, you know, eggs, eggs, it will produce healthier sperm, um helps with the the lining of the uterus. And so it all it is all interconnected. Um, but when primarily, what does the mitochondria need? Well, a big thing that it needs is glutathione. I mean, that's my you know, that's you know God has has a but let's talk about why I found it in a world.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

I I would I I want everybody to understand why the mitochondria need glutathione because it and and why does it matter the the purity of and the bioavailability of glutathione? Because we know we could walk down a you know groceries uh l uh aisle and see probably you know one entire shelf lined with glutathione.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Oh yes, especially now, it's starting to finally gain some popularity, you know, to the mass market. Okay, so glutathione, what is it? It's a tripeptide, so it's a combination of three amino acids. It's produced in every cell in the body, and it's um it's an antioxidant, it's one of the most important antioxidants in our body. So it helps to neutralize free radicals and render them inactive and help to clear them out of our body. Um, but it also is is found in the mitochondria of our cells. So the body naturally manufactures glutathione, and that's again where those free radicals tend to congregate. So it's interesting how the body, in its innate wisdom, you know, has designed it this way. And so glutathione is a is a protector, it's a protector of cells, it's a protector of the mitochondria. As we get older, as we're exposed to environmental toxins, which we all are, as we're exposed to viruses, yeast, mold, etc., our levels of glutathione naturally get depleted. And that's where you look at how do you replenish it? How do you give the body what it needs to heal itself, to keep the mitochondria healthy and well? And so glutathione is a powerhouse when it comes to that particular role.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

And how often do we need to replenish it if you know if we have gotten older and if and or if we have you know been exposed, as who hasn't, to environmental toxicity? Is it a daily thing? Is it a multiple times a day thing? What's what's the half-life, if you will, so that we make sure we are uh optimizing our glute, our mitochondria support? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:05

So what I say is we're exposed to toxins every day. And so uh take glutathione every day to support the manufacture of glutathione in your body and and keep everything balanced. Um and it's a little it's a little more sophisticated than that, in that um, you know, there's ivy glutathione is very popular these days. If you go to like an IV hydration place or whatever, every one of the formulas has glutathione in it.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

You know, glutathione push is what I keep hearing. Glutathione. You want to glutathione push with that. It feels like you need you want to chase her with that.

SPEAKER_00 9:41

And and and I will say, you know, I've been using glutathione for the better part of 25 years of my practice. And I'm I've given lots of glutathione pushes over the years. Now that I've done this real over the past like seven, eight years, real deep dive into glutathione, what I've learned is it's a large molecule. If you do a big IV push of it, it's not all getting into the cells. It gets in your bloodstream, is it getting into your cells to have the effect you want it to have? And then, really important, glutathione is under tight homeostatic control. So it's your body is always too much isn't gonna work, too little isn't gonna work. So if you get too much into your cell, do you do that, you know, more is not better, a high amount, your body is gonna reject that glutathione. So it's interesting that there are these mechanisms in place to keep a very particular amount of glutathione in your cells at all times.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Okay, so we're gonna need to re rename it from vitamin G to the Goldilocks vitamin. I love it. Right? Yeah. I did not know that. I mean, we we are we are so in inculcated that that more is better. Um, and and uh and what you're what I'm hearing you say is if you take more, you could actually be doing yourself detrimental service.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

Because of, yes, because it's under tight hope pre-production control, but also also when you take in glutathione, there's this whole glutathione cycle that happens. So your body takes it and then it uses it. Like let's if you're exposed to toxins, your body will use that glutathione to neutralize those toxins, and then it goes through this cycle. It goes from what's called the reduced active form of glutathione to the oxidized form. And then it recycles back to the reduced active form. Well, in that process, it's using up a bunch of things. Zinc being really important nutrients, zinc, magnesium, some B vitamins, vitamin C, it's working with. And so when you're looking at glutathione, it's not just take more glutathione, it's also giving your body the nutrients it needs to maintain that cycle, that whole glutathione cycle that's actually happening in the body. So again, it's one of those things where I'm always saying these days, more information isn't necessarily better, like you know, online, like glutathione. You need to take more, you need to take more, you know.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

The right information is what we need. We don't need more, we just need accurate.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

Yes, yes. And so, yes, glutathione, there's over 100,000 clinical studies on its value for it for use on a lot of different clinical implications. Um, but you know, what form of glutathione and how you're taking it and how you're working with the body to maintain healthy levels. So when I formulated the vitamin G pixie sticks, I looked at, okay, how much is actually manufactured in the body, you know, and I was looking at the different different cells in your body manufacture different amounts. So it gets pretty complex, right? But big picture wise, roughly what's the range there? And then in a perfect world, if you were living in a bubble and you were eating all organic whole foods that are rich in glutathione every day and eating no junk and no packaged foods, not going to Starbucks, you know. Anyone out there? No, but in a perfect world, what would our body actually be taking in on a day-to-day basis? And so, you know, I always say, look, when I made the formula, I could have put in as much glutathione as I wanted. It was before I priced out how much it cost or any of that, I just created formula, which by the way is the exact formula. I've added a little bit of inulin. Beyond that, the the quantity of the glutathione, the quantity of all the cofactors that I added, nothing has changed. Even again, before I went to price out how much is it going to cost to make these pixie sticks that I envisioned? Um, I could have picked any amount. And I specify I chose an amount that I knew number one would be safe to take daily, would work with the body if taken daily, and would help to support that whole glutathione cycle. Understanding how much the body makes and how much we're exposed, uh where we would be exposed to and taken if we were living in a perfect world. Right. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Two questions. You mentioned that the form of glutathione is important. What form of glutathione, or which form of glutathione is it that you have in vitamin G and why? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

Um, so I I use a form that's patented. Okay that it's actually um created through a fermentation process. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

To that's proven to it's not S or L, it's it's something else.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

It is, it's it's L glutathione, but it's not uh but it's manufactured through a fermentation process. I see, okay. Right. And so um it's unique in that it's proven to actually boost intracellular levels of glutathione. Because we were taught, you know, you were taught, I was taught that you can't take glutathione orally, it's not well absorbed, or you have to take it as a liposomal form, which often doesn't taste great. Oh, that's an understanding. Poor patient compliance. Right. And so this is a form, it's called opatac, which is a branded form of glutathione that um is proven to actually boost blood levels. But I also added these other cofactors. So it's it's a formula that supports glutathione. That's where we came up with the vitamin G, you know, it's the vitamin C Pixie 6, because it's it's it's a formula designed to maintain healthy levels of glutathione in your cells at all times.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

What I love about this is as you say, you know, the the liposomal form also needs to be refrigerated. And so if you travel or just, you know, if if you live life, you know, oftentimes you are not living life out of our refrigerator. We're we're on the go, and the pixie sticks are portable, so they're they they do not need to be refrigerated. So, you know, you just open it up and make your drink, and it's delicious and use it, right?

SPEAKER_00 16:07

I mean, and and and you and I both travel regularly, and I I go nowhere without the pixies. I mean, I always have them with me because it's just easy to take, you know. I often just put it on my tongue, you know, but you can take it that way, or you can put it in water or even in sparkling water. It tastes really good, tastes like a mocktail. Um, and so uh and when I created this, it the whole the point of it was I wanted it to be something people would actually want to take day to day, right? Because we need it every day in a way that's easy, you know, simple, not complicated, tastes good without sugar, and with without all the other stuff that can cause harm when you take certain supplements.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

So my second question, I almost forgot, uh, because we're talking about autoimmune. How does how does glutathione work to mitigate autoimmune, temper autoimmune flair, you know, you know, people many many people either know they have autoimmune or have autoimmune-like symptoms, you know, inflammation, you know, kind of foggy headedness, um, you know, mood swings, things like that. So how what why glutathione and how glutathione as is sort of the master molecule, if you will, for the autoimmune person?

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Yeah. So there's good research on the use of glutathione for certain autoimmune conditions, even like Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which can be very common in women, especially facing fertility issues. Um, but glutathione is known to balance out the whole inflammatory response in the body. And so if you have an inflammatory storm occurring, glutathione lowers that inflammation systemically. And when you have inflammation in your body, your brain will start to create inflammatory molecules in response to what's happening in the rest of your body, which leads to the foggy thinking, the depression, the anxiety, that you know, or any health challenge that has an inflammatory component to it. Right.

SPEAKER_01 18:13

Right? Most do. So yeah. So so whether this is, you know, autoimmune or you know, sort of just a chronic a chronic pain issue, or you know, sort of post-operative care or post-cancer care or things like that, all everything has an an inflammatory response to it. That's the nature of our bodies. Uh, so I I can't think of a of an instance where glutathione is not beneficial and useful. Am I missing something?

SPEAKER_00 18:48

Well, so I mean, in general, look at the doses that I recommend taking daily, I would say. No, um, if you're doing high doses, and and for example, if you're you're on a chemotherapeutic agent, you have to be careful there. And that's where with any supplement, including this one, I always say work with your qualified healthcare practitioner before taking any of this stuff. Make sure it works based on your medical history and all that. That being said, so if you certain chemotherapeutic agents, you want to um, you don't glutathione is an antioxidant, right? You don't want antioxidant. So you don't want to counter what you're trying to do there. But there are ways to use it pre and post that's right.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

I think I think it is radiation care. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

Like I did a whole treatment care. Yeah. Yeah. I had done a whole prepared a whole lecture. It was at A4M on radiation and glutathione. And it was so fun to talk about this and and real and do a real deep dive into it. But there are ways to use glutathione pre and post-radiation treatment that can be extremely effective in protecting your cells.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

Very interesting.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

Extremely effective. So it's something to look into and talk with your doctors about.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Um, but in terms of inflammation in general, glutathione is is very good at helping to bring the body back into balance, you know, and and it's it's uh treating or it's treating an underlying cause of why the inflammation is happening in the first place, which is overload of toxins. So glutathione naturally in your body helps to deal with those toxins. So it's it's it's minimizing that burden that triggers inflammation.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

Please connect with us for a fertility assessment call at the link below. We'd love to learn a bit about you and share our resources. And make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel so that you never miss an episode. So that makes me think of the person going through an IVF cycle. You know, uh I and and I I want to just kind of put a highlight on I am very much pro-IVF for a person who is seeking that for building um family. And there are so many reasons why that is almost the only way for which somebody can get the family of their dreams. That being said, the you know, the the two-week protocol is arduous. We're you know, uh triggering an increase in hormone stimulation, that's an inflammatory process. Um, we you know, an egg triggering ovulate, you know, an ovulation if it's going to, if they're not doing an egg retrieval or doing an egg retrieval, that's an inflammatory process with all of the spillage of follicular fluid into the pelvic bowl. Would you be would you recommend glutathione for a period of time before an IVF cycle? Would you recommend it during the STEM since it really is antioxidant? We're not talking about something that's going to alter the treatment principle or protocols. And then certainly I would, I'm going to guess the answer to this. Would you recommend it post-retrieval and before transfer?

SPEAKER_00 21:53

Yes. Yes. Yes, to all of them. And again, I'll always say talk with your doctor first. 100% in preparation for IVF. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and and with if we're talking about the pixie sticks, I would have women taking two pixie sticks every day. Okay. And they'd be doing double the amount. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

I mean, I do the same. I'll have I'll have I have a 28-day, you know, sort of detox protocol, ideally. I mean, I don't always get people before before that, but if I can, I know I'm making great inroads. And uh, but but um, but yeah, I what adding the the pixie sticks and again, it's it's an easy ask because it's so delicious.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

No, I know. I like look forward to it. And so, but yeah, I would do the two per day leading up to during, I would do one a day, and then post and prior to retrieval, I would do two a day. Okay. And then during pregnancy. And so uh again, during pregnancy, it's very tricky to talk about supplements, any supplements.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

I will just say that Well, let me put it this way during pregnancy for the autoimmune person.

SPEAKER_00 23:09

Oh glutathione can be extremely helpful in managing an autoimmune challenge during pregnancy.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Yes, yes, I'm I'm I'm of the same camp, which is why I kind of uh softballed. That question because I will always uh continue glutathione care during pregnancy, especially, especially in that first trimester, because there's so many changes taking place and there and the the risk of of you know a loss is just too great.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Yeah, and and there's a high concentration of glutathione in the liver, yes, and in Chinese medicine, naturopathic medicine, all the different you know, forms of medicine out there. I think uh well, a lot of them will say if you're dealing with hormonal imbalance or fertility issues, look at the liver, manage, you know, support the liver. And glutathione is in high concentrations in the liver. Your liver is helping to clear hormones. And when you have these high fluctuations in hormones, just as important as making sure you get the hormones is how are they getting cleared from the body? And glutathione supports the healthy clearance of those hormones, which again helps with the inflammation. Great.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

And I'm going to, I'm gonna segue a little bit here because it makes me think of the pre-perimenopausal person. Again, the hormonal fluctuations in this particular time frame, it pre-perimenopause to perimenopause. So, you know, you're starting to get symptoms, you're not sure, is it, you know, is it something you ate for dinner, or is it is it, you know, actually hormonal fluctuation? I think that those time frames are so critical to institut, implementing protocols that support you so that you're not having a horrendous perimenopause for five years. Uh yes.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

Yes, and it's funny when I first formulated these, um, and I was just giving them to patients to try. Uh, one of the biggest uh things that I learned, I wasn't giving glutathione for hormonal imbalance. I just wasn't at that. I and I've been using it forever. I was using it for autoimmune conditions in general and for autism and ADD and all these addictions, but not for like women in their pre-peri-menopausal phases. And that was the the most important feedback I received during that time was this is helping so much with my hot flashes, with my skin, with my sleep. You know, I have uh patients who wouldn't take any other supplements, they weren't supplement people, were afraid of biodenical hormones and would just take the glutathione. Wow, and and that was having a a very like real impact on their symptoms in in pre- and peri-menopause. And then one of my patients in menopause over menopause, and it was like she just depends on on these products for managing it, you know, without without doing the biodential, all the other things we do, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and so that again, I I don't know why, but I just it just wasn't what it wasn't my goal. It wasn't your focus, it wasn't the prism, but there, but there you go. And now any woman who's in that phase of life is on the pixie sticks, it's just like check, check, check that box.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

So what is the time frame in life that you would say to a a young woman or a woman, you know, get started on it now? Like, would is it would you say just when she starts menstruating? Would you say, you know, when she's in her fertile year? I mean, obviously menstruating means fertile years, but in her, you know, late 20s, early 30s, um, would you when she's or when she's you know, sort of like consciously saying, okay, I'm I'm trying to conceive.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Yeah. So I think for any woman who is being proactive about wanting to take care of her body and get it to be as healthy and conducive as possible to having a healthy pregnancy, that would be the time to absolutely look at glutathione as an important part of that plan. So it'd be any um, but interestingly enough, I designed the pixie sticks for my own daughter when she was young, you know, in elementary school, as a way to support immune function in these kids. Like I wanted it to be in, you know, kids' lunchboxes, right? That was yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it can be used for younger kids as well. But as it relates to your specialty and what we're talking about here, fertility, I would say any woman who is wanting to prepare her body for a healthy pregnancy, that's the time to look at glutathione.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Yeah. And I'm gonna go so far as to say is even if you're even if now's not go time, or even three months down the road is not go time, if you think, you know what, I would like to have kids someday, this is an easy way of saying, okay, if there's very little else I do, and trust me, there's a lot that what we we can and should do in terms of our, you know, eating organic, eating, drinking filtered water, you know, getting proper sleep, getting proper circadian flow, removing all of the toxins and so forth. But if you do almost nothing else, like just add the add the glutathione.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

Yeah, it's one of those things, it's almost like vitamin C. You know, and there's vitamin C in the glutathione. Well, that was my next question.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Is uh so vitamin C and magnesium and zinc and D3, all those cofactors that you mentioned, glutathione will use. So you've put into the sticks what the glutathione needs in order to do its job. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

Great, yes, great, and so yeah, and uh so yeah, it's a comprehensive formula for supporting healthy levels of glutathione. Remembering glutathione is naturally occurring in your body. Glutathione, you can there are if you eat avocados and straw organic strawberries that are well, even now the organic ones are apparently sprayed with 200 different toxins, so locally grown organic that on your own, in your own garden. I mean, seriously, it's getting to be so ridiculous, but uh there are foods, healthy whole foods, that naturally have glutathione in them. And so keeping that in mind, it truly is um something the body recognizes, knows how to use, makes it on its own because it's so important. And I think it's so important that it's manufactured in every cell of the body. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

Is there any, is there any, I mean I I'm sure there are others, others that are manufactured in every cell of the body, but I but I can't think of anything else that is manufactured in every cell in the body. But my your point being, and and point well taken, that that's how important this this tripeptide is, this this and the level of antioxidant support that it offers, because oxidative stress is is cellular decay. There's like like there there's there's an equal sign between those two those two statements. Yeah. So I'm putting you on the spot here, and and if and if it's just too if if it's not going to be easy to to do so, uh please just tell me. But do you have any sort of like stories, like a patient's story or like a testimonial you go, here's how powerful the using glutathione can be.

SPEAKER_00 30:48

Um two stories come to mind right now. One is a woman who was going into menopause, and one is one of my first patients I ever had who was a heroin addict. So I'm gonna go to two extreme, two, two totally different, but how always they always kind of. I have a third one, which would be my own nephew who who has autism. So I can talk about that one too. But two important ones are one, um, this patient refused to take any supplements, very skeptical about using supplements in gel, just wasn't just not her thing, right? But started to enter into menopause and was having major sleep issues, hot flashes, her skin was starting to, you know, not look like it did. Um, mood swings. She was having a heck of a time. And she's a high-powered attorney and executive and type A and all of that. Not used to these. Anyway, uh, yeah, that was really affecting one's quality of life. And it oh, it was it completely, it was it was just you know, it was horrible. It was stop, it was disturbing her life. Started using the this formula, and she just as an experiment, she's like, I'll try it, I can do this. Started using the formula within days, no more hot flashes, sleeping well. I mean, within days of taking it. And so being an attorney and very pragmatic, you know, she wasn't just like, oh, I'll just believe whatever you say and do it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

So she stopped. Imagine if you were giving her pixie sticks now in the form of pixie sticks.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

Like, you want me to do what? But she still takes them to this day, by the way. The pixie sticks. Yeah. Um, so then she stopped. She wanted to do an experiment. Um, we're just gonna stop these and see what happens, and all of her symptoms returned.

unknown 32:45

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 32:45

Then she went back on it, and so it was a very clean, she was a great example because she wasn't taking other stuff that could be the possible reason why she was getting better, right? So that was a very direct wow. This formula was addressing her menopausal symptoms, and they were significant symptoms disrupting her life. So that's one. Um, now one of my first patients where I really started to think about I really need to focus on this molecule, was a heroin addict. And he was, you know, when he came in, I was doing all the functional medicine testing, everything I knew how to do with him, everything. And of all the things, he said, Dr. Gina, you want to know the thing that is making the most, you know, helping me the most, and it was glutathione. And I was surprised. I was like, okay, and so that always stuck with me. It was the glutathione that was making the biggest impact on his ability to, and he's not a heroin addict anymore, on his ability to to get over this and heal his body, his ability to no longer to not give in to the cravings, yes, and to reduce the cravings.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

Wow. Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

Because mitochondria were healing, yes, yeah, yeah. And again, we were doing a ton of things, uh, I mean, we're doing all the things, but and and this was you know, a long time ago. And this was before I formulated the pixie sticks, but just as it relates to glutathione and the power of glutathione. Um and then uh my nephew was diagnosed with autism when he was a young boy, and back then I kept saying, I need to get glutathione, you know, into this kid, and I didn't want to inject him, and he wasn't gonna take the liposomal form. And and my sister actually reminded me of this. She was like, You you've been working on this for a long time. You were wanting something to be able to give him, yeah. And now, fast forward, you know, 17 years old, and he refers to the pixie sticks, takes them every single day as Gina juice. Oh, I love it. I mean my Gina juice, and and it's improving his everything. I mean, it's it's it's making a very significant difference. And I always believe in the body's wisdom. And if it wasn't helping this boy, he wouldn't be asking to take it every day. I honor that, you know, it's not like it's candy, it tastes good, yeah, but it's not like a sugar addiction.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

Yeah, yeah. And and correct me if I'm wrong, but my impression is that the you know, people on the on the spectrum there uh are more inclined to want like a carby kind of thing uh for their sugar that than they are an actual sugar sensation on their tongue because that would be almost too too intense.

SPEAKER_00 35:32

Over stimulation. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They like their their carb snacks.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

Yeah. So tell me, does it is it does it make sense then that I'm translating this to okay, that this gina juice helped helped your nephew, and I don't know where he is on the spectrum of the autism spectrum disorder. Um would it would it lend itself to say that then again, taking it during pregnancy, reducing oxidative species, reducing inflammatory response while a fetus' brain is being born being developed, nervous system is being developed. I'm making deductions here that this could help prevent that tendency toward that hyper-inflamed, hyper-stimulated nervous system and brain system. It makes sense to me. I mean, this would be just very just you know I mean this is conjecture, but it's just my hypothesis, if you will. But boy, wouldn't that be great to have research done on this?

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Yes, yes, yes, you know, and we know things like Tylenol, deplete glutathione, and then there was some research that came out that said, okay, wait, so is the reason you don't want to give um Tylenol after vaccination is the reaction due to depleted glutathione levels if you're taking Tylenol, right? And so it's compromising the body's ability to break down any of the excipients, anything that the body's reacting to that you're you know, you have this amazing detoxification system that can handle a lot of this stuff, right? And so is it that post-vaccination, right? You need that glutathione to help handle those reactions of the actual vaccination. Well, you just you just it's again, it's just another thing. And we and yes, there needs to be a lot more research, but it's interesting, it's interesting that connection there, you know, Tylenol depletes glutathione. Is that why we're not we're you know advising against now, you know, taking Tylenol post-vaccination? Because it's compromising the body's ability to clear out any of you know any excipients that that might otherwise cause a problem.

unknown 37:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

This almost has me thinking that um pixie stick should be in in every pediatrician's office as uh as a as a an exit, you know, here like you know, kids don't need a lollipop when they leave after they've gotten an injection. Right.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

But they do need some glutathione. Pixie stick might not be a bad idea.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

Yeah, yeah. Gosh, I could go on and on and on with this, but I but I've and I I'm afraid that I've been out of my own curiosity, possibly misdirecting some of the questions. Is there anything that that you want to make sure that you impart? Because in in and viewers, listeners, um, you know, all of the information will be in show notes, links to Dr. Gina's site, to vitamin D site, um, so purchase your did I say vitamin D, vitamin G site to purchase, and there'll be a coupon code for a 20% discount. So that uh we're going to give you an incentive to try it out. But before we kind of wrap it up here, anything of note that it could, you know, it here we are midway through the year, you know, so so anything kind of coming up that you that you want people to know about, um, that that uh that that I can zip my mouth now and you can talk about.

SPEAKER_00 38:58

I would say that um, you know, what you're doing, Doctor, is uh very important in instilling hope in women who have challenges with fertility. I think the most important message is there is a lot you can do to have a successful, healthy pregnancy, even when you've been told otherwise. You know, and so listen to what Dr. Susan Fox is talking about. Um it's it's it's very real. And so the the most important message, and even as I talk about the pixie sticks and glutathione, um it it's it's hey, there are things you can do, very practical, real things that you can do day to day that can truly help your body to heal itself. And so just that that message of uh don't give up if you want and you're you know, and and you want to be blessed with a healthy pregnancy, don't close the door on that opportunity until you've done some of these other things too, because I've I've seen and heard way too many miracle stories to think otherwise. So thank you.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

That's what's I I I I thank you for for acknowledging. And yes, I I second that emotion in that I'm always saying, you don't want to get pregnant, you want a healthy baby, right? You know, there's the the this the two lines on the pregnancy stick are not your desired outcome. That healthy baby in your arms, who's going to grow up to be a healthy child, young adult, adult, future leader, transformational, you know, uh magician for for the future of our planet is is what you want. So if if something as simple as minimizing, reducing your oxidative stress, the it's called reactive oxidative species in your cells by taking something as delicious as a glutathione pixie stick, I mean, you're you're not dummies out there. So I know that I know that you're you're you can can feel how much agency you have over your whole health, which is reflective in your fertile health and your future and your family and your community. So thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you for being here with us today. Again, everything will be in the show notes um so that people can reach you. Uh is there a do you have openings in your practice for people to reach out to you directly?

SPEAKER_00 41:33

I do, and I actually we we just uh expanded my practice to where I'm able to see people throughout the United States, which is very exciting. I was I was limited to California and Hawaii, and now with our new model, I'm able to work with people in every state, and so it's drgena.com, just d-r-g-in-a.com. That is wonderful. Congratulations.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

That is a feat. I mean, I know many have tried, few have succeeded. So congratulations. And uh yeah, because you know, people need it, and and I regrettably the people who sometimes need it the most are those who have the least physical zip code uh access. So I'm so delighted that they get to access you by um the powers of the internet. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 42:19

It's pretty pretty amazing. I used to not like Zoom, and now like I have embraced Zoom. It's it's wonderful.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

It is wonderful. We are very fortunate to have this as part of our community and communication ability. So thank you, thank you, thank you, Dr. Gina. It's been a delight talking with you. Can't wait to have people get out there and try the pixie sticks um and uh and you know, really improve their health, their children's health, their future children's health, uh, their partner's health, by the way, by the way, male factor, half the cause. I the guys are gonna not argue taking a pixie stick once or twice a day. So make it buy enough for both of you. All right. Until we see each other again, we always close out with at every health uh university episode with a thank you for spending your time with us. We know that your time is precious and it could be spent anywhere, so we're grateful for your time today. Please forward this episode to anyone you think of as you listen to the episode because again, one in six is struggling, half of whom are male factor. We've we've talked about, you know, uh the spectrum disorder, autoimmunity. It doesn't have to be fertility or hormonal, women's hormone related. So please forward. And until we see each other again, we will say class dismissed.