Unmasking Greatness
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Unmasking Greatness
Faith, Family, and Fresh Food: How Karley Jones Built #1 Clean Eats In The States
Transformation isn't just about shedding pounds – it's about completely reimagining your life. Karley Jones, once a self-described "trash bag" who smoked a pack of cigarettes daily and drank excessively, now owns the #1 Clean Eats location among over 100 nationwide franchises. Her journey from unhealthy party girl to health entrepreneur offers powerful insights for anyone facing their own struggles.
"I didn't come from a healthy family, so I need to make sure that a healthy family comes from me," Karley shares in this vulnerable conversation about hitting rock bottom at 215 pounds before finding a coach who taught her nutrition basics. While quitting alcohol came relatively easily, cigarettes proved more challenging – even as she began teaching fitness classes. Eventually, what began as a part-time job at Clean Eats to help pay for her wedding evolved into a passionate career and thriving business.
Beyond business success, Karley candidly discusses balancing work with family life while navigating her mother's stage four cancer diagnosis. Rather than viewing work-life balance as something to achieve daily, she sees it as a long-term goal: "It might be work and then home, and then three works real hard and then two homes...at the end of the year, were we balanced?" Her practical wisdom about time-blocking, surrounding yourself with the right people, and finding strength through faith during difficult seasons resonates whether you're tackling health goals or life challenges.
For those seeking change, Karley offers this simple but profound advice: "You are the sum of the five people you spend the most time with." If you can't immediately change your social circle, begin by filling your mind with content from those you aspire to emulate. Ready to transform your health journey?
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Welcome to Unmasking Greatness. I'm your host, chris Kikoris, a lifestyle fitness coach and mentor. This podcast is about unmasking your greatest potential, finding your purpose and crafting a life worth living. Health and fitness has been the gateway drug to all of my success. My continuous drive to keep learning and surround myself with other high achievers forces me to level up, which has developed my mind to something I never thought was possible. This podcast is here to share what I've learned and continue to learn with all of you. This is your sign to take back control of your health, mindset and personal environment. Strap in as we are recharged and always find value in the show. Please subscribe and share, as we can all get better together.
Speaker 1:Let's go. What's up, guys? Welcome to another episode of Unmasking Greatness. I'm your host, chris Kikoris, and I have a very good friend and owner of Clean Eats in Greenville, carly Jones. Hello, this episode I've been looking forward to. I met Carly through, obviously, mutual businesses in the local upstate area and always trying to network, but I have to take my hat off to Carly because Carly is like a networking master.
Speaker 2:I don't know about that, but I yap a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I can tell you I look up to you, especially in that standpoint. I talk to a lot of different businesses because I'm just like you got to go out there, you got to talk to people, you got to network and you are at every single health fitness event that I can kind of think of and it's impressive, thank you, I will say that your girl's tired, but you're here, we're here, we're here.
Speaker 1:So cool, so I'm glad to have you on. I really kind of want to dig into you how you got into you know Clean Eats your past, because I'm assuming and I kind of did some research too everybody has like an unhealthy past to some capacity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so I really want to kind of dig into that a little bit, about Clean Eats. And then also, you know, I want to try to give some value to the listeners, especially if they're trying to get into a healthier lifestyle. What are some like small implementations that they could get into as far as getting them a little bit closer to their goals? So again, thank you for being here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks for having me, I'm excited.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so let's start with this. Let's start with uh. Actually, I think a day or two ago, I saw uh stories on your Instagram feed of pictures of you in the past holding drinks and, uh, little comments of how did I actually look like this before? So, yeah, let's, let's start there, let's, let's bring those pictures up and uh, yeah, I am.
Speaker 2:Um, I used to be a self-proclaimed trash bag, if you will. Just you know I I didn't come from a healthy lifestyle, so that's never been on my radar Right. I am a hard worker though. So I've always been a hard worker and I've been in the restaurant industry for a very long time, and I have that background in common. But the restaurant industry is great for partying, you know. So my late teens and early 20s, that's just what I did.
Speaker 2:You would get off work and you would meet up with people and you would pregame to go out and drink, and then you would drink all night. And then, you know, I was smoking a pack of cigarettes a day, and I smoked for nine years. And then I was drinking in excess multiple nights a week, if not every night out of the week. It was a problem. And then I was eating fast food super late at night, because that's what you do when you go out and drink every night. And then I was also working in the restaurant industry and I was working really hard.
Speaker 2:Like I said, I've always been a hard worker. I wanted to progress in my career, but I would grab a Chick-fil-A biscuit in on the way to work and then I would eat lunch at the restaurant and then I would eat McDonald's at 2 am after I got done drinking all night. So there was no health and fitness and nutrition anywhere in my mind. But I moved down to Anderson. I got a general manager position at the restaurant franchise that I was in at 21. And so I was the youngest GM in the company and I was really proud of that. I moved down there and again I was working like 70 hours a week, though because like that restaurant was failing, it wasn't doing well. Honestly, I think they gave it to me because it was failing. They were like we'll give that to her, we'll let her drop the ball.
Speaker 2:But, to this day I'm the only person that has turned a profit at that location. I'm still very proud of that. But I was working my butt off to do it and so I was just putting on weight. Because in high school it's a little bit easier, right, most people are playing a sport or you're being active in some way, so it can kind of like negate all of your other poor choices. But when you're just working all the time, I put on a lot of weight. So at my heaviest I was like 215.
Speaker 2:This was 2012. I was like 215. Okay, this was 2012. I was in a friend's wedding and I remember going to pick out my dress and I was like I'm probably like a size 6, size 8. And they were like, girl, you're like 14. I was like, oh, all right. And then we got the pictures back from the wedding and I always joke that my arm looks like one of those big turkey legs you would get at like a fair.
Speaker 1:You joke that my arm looks like one of those big turkey legs?
Speaker 2:you would get at like a fair you know I'm talking about like this I was like this what in?
Speaker 2:the world, the renaissance fair. Renaissance fair turkey leg arm. But I. So I knew that I needed to make a change. But I had zero clue where to start because I didn't grow up in a healthy household. Like you could eat whatever you wanted. In our house there was an endless supply of soda. There was no you know. Mean, Eat your veggies Like it was just whatever. You're just doing whatever. And I mean and I don't blame my family Like you don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 2:Um and we grew up in the South, so everything is cooked with butter and lard and you know all the good stuff. Yeah, everything's fried, and so I found a coach. Shout out to getting a coach, if you don't know where to start.
Speaker 2:And it really did change my life. Like I had no clue, and so she just taught me the basics. And so it was you're going to eat in a calorie deficit and you're going to move your body and you're going to burn more calories and you're going to consume and you're going to lose weight. And it worked. So, yeah, just the basics.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So let me ask you this, because obviously you started to notice, okay, smoking, drinking, gaining weight Was there one thing that was kind of like the tipping, like I can't continue living like this? Or you know what made you decide, okay, I got to change, I got to hire a coach, Like did you feel like you had to get like really into like a deep depressed spot? You didn't like your life, or what was that?
Speaker 2:There's not one specific incidence that I can remember, but specifically the drinking. You know how people say, like what's the sober thoughts or drunken words. That's just not true. Like some people are just different humans when they're drunk and I'm one of those people. Like I'm just I make decisions that I wouldn't make sober and I don't like that about myself and I am so type a in my in my life and I'm like why am I doing? Why am I letting myself be out of control? I don't enjoy being out of control. Um, so the drinking was something that was just had to go cold Turkey and in a significantly easier to lose weight if you are not consuming tons of calories through alcohol, and so that was just something that was I don't have.
Speaker 2:I don't have that addictive personality, so I fell into that drinking, but then it was really easy for me to it's. It's really easy for me to cut something off if I see that it's not serving me, so alcohol was something that was easy to cut off, and I still don't drink. I maybe have five drinks a year or something on you know a special occasion.
Speaker 1:Well, those I mean when you were going out and drinking. I'm assuming that you also were going out with the same kind of friends.
Speaker 2:And I don't. And I don't blame those people because, again, like I am responsible for my own self, right, and I, so I try not to make excuses about that, but you do have to remove yourself from those people. And what and when I found out maybe not everybody finds this out, but a lot of people just like fun drunk Carly and I was the one who, like, nobody wants to party alone, right, and I had a good job, whereas a lot of my friends didn't. They were either in college or just graduated college and were in entry-level positions. But nobody wants to party alone, so it was if you come out drinking with me, I'll pay for you.
Speaker 1:So most of the time it was just people wanted to hang out with me because I'd probably pay for the alcohol. I bet you your paycheck increased significantly, not spending all that money. Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:Ironically enough, smoking was the last thing to go because it is such an addiction, right? So I had lost some weight weight and then I started doing group fitness. I love group fitness and I used to be a dancer when I was younger and so I got into dance fitness and I started teaching dance fitness. And, what was so funny, my now husband and I were dating at the time and he was like you look ridiculous pulling up to teach your fitness class smoking a cigarette before you get out of the car, like come on. And I was like you look ridiculous pulling up to teacher fitness class smoking a cigarette before you get out of the car, like come on. And I was like I know. And so that was the last thing to go. But now I can't even stand the smell of it, and you used to smoke too, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like your story is very, very similar to mine because obviously, like restaurant background, I was going out and drinking with friends as well. I did it. So so I don't say I would do it, Maybe not as much like throughout the week. It was kind of like a Thursday, Friday, Saturday kind of thing you know, going out with friends. It got to a point where one I was spending every week's paycheck going out drinking with friends.
Speaker 2:Think of the money we could have right now I'm talking about my whole paycheck.
Speaker 1:And then and then at one point I woke up and I was just like really depressed, because when you're out, you're drinking, you're having fun, you know, endorphins are flowing, and then you wake up to the reality of what you truly live and it's like I don't like this. You know I want to go back and drink, but you know you can't do that, obviously. So it kind of put me in a place where I was like is this it Right? Is this what my life is going to be? I'm just going to work and drink and party and, you know, wake up feeling even worse every single morning. So that was kind of where I started to, you know, finally pull back and stop drinking. And I asked about the friends too, because my friends would call me, you know, because I was going out so much.
Speaker 1:Yep, you know because I was going out, so much Yep, and I'm like, no, I'm not going to go. And then slowly, those calls start to like stop coming in yeah, I don't get invited to nothing now yeah. And I don't miss it yeah yeah, and same thing with drinking Very similar. I went to Greenville Tech to get a personal training certification there and they had us.
Speaker 2:I mean first off, did I ever think people weren't smelling this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean it was. I can't be around it anymore, um, but I remember one day we had to do a 12 minute run test. So 12 minutes of running, you see, as far as you can get. I think I ran a minute and a half before. I was like yeah like what's going on? And I was. I was so embarrassed.
Speaker 1:I was so embarrassed that I was like cause I had a little bit of muscle, but, like you know, from an aerobic standpoint I was trash and I was like I cannot come out here promote health, fitness and be smoking, you know, after each session or in between clients or something like that. So that's when I decided I was like, okay, I got to stop. I couldn't cold turkey, that one, that was one where I went from. I was doing a pack. I went down to half a pack. Eventually got to like this breakfast, lunch, dinner cadence. But I'll tell you what was the real kicker. I finally went to a house party because I was still pretty young and everybody was there and I drank a little bit then too, and one of my friends. I intentionally didn't bring cigarettes because, if anybody knows, if you drink.
Speaker 1:A pack is probably done in a night, and so I didn't bring one. And my friend asked if I wanted one. I said no and I was like ha ha, you know, I can do this. You know that little win, but it was enough to like prove to myself okay, I'm strong enough to say no, I don't need this anymore. So and that was it.
Speaker 2:You know some people say that you can't like you have to quit smoking for yourself, right, nobody can make you. But again, my now husband. He and I just started dating at the time and he straight up said he was like I'm not dating a smoker. That is gross.
Speaker 1:I was like, okay, well, you're cute and I don't want to, you know so he's truly the reason why I stopped cold turkey. Man, that's a good person to have. I mean, I think that goes back to your environment. You got to put yourself in a different environment. If you expect some sort of change, it'll increase the outcome of what you're trying to achieve significantly. So all right, so let's go back. Okay, you're working at this management position. Where did you find your path? Going into Clean Eats?
Speaker 2:So I was working. I'd moved back from Anderson back to Greenville and I was working at multiple different locations. I was doing catering full time for them and then doing a little bit of admin in their office, and my husband and I were engaged at the time, and so I was working like 50 or 60 hours a week. I did not have time for a part time job, but I'm a workaholic Like I like working, I like making money, and so we wanted to help pay for the wedding. So I said, well, I'll get a part-time job. And I found a Facebook ad for Clean Eats. I had never heard of it and, but I feel very confident that I could do any restaurant job. And then, on top of it, it had the health aspect and I was like, well, that's cool.
Speaker 2:I went and checked it out and I met with the owner at the time. He and I just instantly clicked. We just had very similar faith in things and just motivations. I was very honest, though. I was like I work a lot and my schedule is not consistent, so I'll be here. I just don't know when I'll be here and how often I'll be here. So, like, I'll be here, I just don't know when I'll be here and how often I'll be here, you know. And so he was desperate at the time because they were in a restaurant and they were hiring anybody and everybody. He was like you're hired. So I came on and I was driving from Spartanburg to Kleenex. So if you're local, you know down 85,.
Speaker 2:I would get off at like four or five in the afternoon in Spartanburg and then try to go southbound to go to Clean Eats. It was a hot mess. So I was like please don't put me on the schedule for a certain time. I'll just show up. You know when I show up. But I would get there and then just kind of close the restaurant and I just love taking care of people and I still to this day joke that like healthy people are nicer than other people I was going to ask.
Speaker 2:And so the customers were so nice and they genuinely were so excited for what we were and what we were doing. And, like my first night, this guy comes in and he goes hey, I didn't get the Macro Matrix email this week. Well, I don't. That's my first day. I have no clue what a Macro Matrix email is I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry about that.
Speaker 2:Let me get your email and I'll make sure to forward that to you. I had no clue what that was, and so I called Matt, the owner, the next day and I was like, hey, can you email me the macro matrix? I need to send it over to Rodney. And he's like do you know what that is? I said no, but he said he didn't get it and he was just blown away that I would like you know what I mean, take the time to do that for somebody. But I just love serving people and taking care of people. And then we were getting people healthy on top of it. You know, it was like genuine change in people's lives. And it was really cool when people were coming in day after day and saying like, oh, I've lost 20 pounds. Or oh, like I was, you know, pre-diabetic and now my doctor's taking me off my medication. Like it was just really cool. And so Matt said you're great at this, you should come on full time. But they had just opened up and he, he was 25.
Speaker 2:And so quitting my job of you know 10-plus years. To go work for like a 25-year-old on paper does not look great right.
Speaker 2:Like everybody would be like, do not do that. My dad was like, do not do that. And he said, look, I'll pray about it. You pray about it. We really need somebody in here that's just going to like how I love it and take over. And so I did.
Speaker 2:I did pray about it and I think a lot of times in our faith we want something so badly that we can convince ourselves that God's saying that's us wanting it. But really is it, or is it just us wanting it really badly? And so I'm driving in the car and I am, I'm praying about it. I'm like God, like you know, moses and the burning bush, like I don't need a burning bush, but I just need something. Give me a clear yes, this is the path that you want for me, because I'm not a job hopper and my husband and I had just gotten married right and we just bought a house, and so this was not something that we could just hop into a career and it'd fail. And I'm driving down the road, I finished that prayer and I always listen to praise and worship music in the car, because what you put in your mind is just as important as everything else. And there's this song called so Will I. It was playing and as soon as I finished praying, that lyric said if the wind goes where you send it, so will I. I was like it's not a burning bush, but it's pretty dang close, and so I accepted that position.
Speaker 2:And it was a risk on his end too, because I was very honest. We had just gotten married. We were trying to have a baby no employer wants to hear that and a month after I came on full time, I found out I was pregnant. That is an employer's worst nightmare. Nobody wants to hear that, but I mean, it's history. I've been there ever since we opened in 2017. I started in August and I started in September and then I've been there ever since, and it truly has changed my life. It was the best decision.
Speaker 1:I've ever made. I love it. I love that story honestly, because me and Carly actually sat down one day at your restaurant and we were just talking business, yeah, and she told me a story and I was just like that is so cool. You know, I think everybody needs some sort of belief or faith in some capacity and I don't know, for whatever reason. That has always stuck in my brain, that conversation that we had. So I'm glad that you shared that with everybody too. So, yeah, I mean, that's wild. You know, you hear a lot of stories like that when people are, you know, talking Because you can, you can get in your own head. You want something so badly. You can start to like craft things, like you know, look at different things and make it sound, but it's just, it's got to, it's got to touch you, you know, and it's, it's worked out good and I will and also kind of your clean and correct me if I'm wrong how many, how many clean eats are there in the States?
Speaker 2:So there are over a hundred clean eats location open nationwide. Um, I think we're like at 112 right now. Now you are you are Insert hair flip.
Speaker 1:The number one right we are the number one Greenville, south Carolina.
Speaker 2:Little old Greenville is the number one clean eats location.
Speaker 1:That is so impressive. Thank you, although I'm also not surprised because it is, you know, coming from like a restaurant background. You know my family's from the restaurant, my wife's side they all have restaurants too. Nobody is really going hard with social media, promoting networking, like doing all the things most people don't want to do.
Speaker 1:Like you're there, you're doing it. So I say that it's not surprising because, like I'd be surprised if a lot of the other cleanings are going to the extent that you're going. I think for you to achieve what you've achieved, you have to do what nobody else wants to do.
Speaker 2:Well, I appreciate that, and because the cleanings organization is, I mean, it's top tier, like, the founders are amazing and they established an amazing culture, and then it just trickles down from there. The owners in the organization are powerhouses, I mean just and most of them started out. Most of them have a story similar to ours. Almost all of them started out with some type of unhealthy lifestyle, hit rock bottom, changed their lives, found Clean Eats, and then was like I want to open a Clean Eats. This is, we're changing lives. This is awesome. And so there's so many amazing people in the organization that, like, I'm a yapper, but when I get in the room with them, I will shut up and listen all day, because it's just a wealth of knowledge when everybody gets together and there's so many, everybody communicates so well.
Speaker 2:I just have found so many mentors and so many friends through that organization. Like the culture starts at the top and then it just trickles down and our store being at the top really is a God thing, like it truly is. We've just surrendered that business over to the Lord and said God, like, as long as we are changing lives, just make sure that we are following your will for that and we will be as obedient to you as we possibly can. And he has just blessed it upon, blessed it. But we just have. We have a great team and we have a great culture and it's we have. Greenville has a great health and wellness community in general and so we try to be non-intimidating, right. So it can be really intimidating, just like a gym. If you don't have a clue how to eat healthy. It is very intimidating to walk into somewhere and not know where to start. But we try to make it an atmosphere where everybody feels welcome.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, you do a really good job, Thank you. I think a lot of that as well is. I don't know if Clean Eats has. I'm sure they've given you some sort of standard or SOPs on how to be a leader and train your staff. But I think that comes down to you at the end of the day because you are a walking example of that place and you set the standard, you know, and it's kind of like, if you want to be here and you want to grow with us, you know we all have to be up here, Right.
Speaker 2:You know, and every time I've been in there, I'm not going to ask somebody to do something that, like I haven't done myself or I wouldn't be willing to do, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So if I'm walking to the dining room and there's trash on the floor seat, I'm wiping off the piss on the toilet seat, Like we just and that's just kind of how I tell all of them Like we just do the things that need to be done and we act with integrity. That's one of our core values, Um and so if we all hold each other to the same standard, right? So if somebody comes in and they're not meeting the standard, they kind of weed themselves out.
Speaker 2:I don't have to do a ton of firing because, if you don't enjoy discipline and you don't enjoy holding yourself to a higher standard, you will not enjoy working in our environment.
Speaker 1:So they kind of Well, I'm sure you see it. I mean you were talking about the customers, but I can imagine the employees from your past job being GM to this one significantly different. I say that to say because, like, when I used to be working in the restaurant, I would probably consider myself more like a kitchen manager. I did everything, yeah, from prepping to cooking to, like you know, scheduling, everybody that had to do back-of-house stuff, and my father's old school you know, old school Greek.
Speaker 1:He's going to talk some shit to you. He's going to like sometimes he'll talk down to people, yeah, but he'll also play with them. So it's kind of like this it just kind of depends how he's feeling that day or how well you're doing, because if you don't do your job, he would be like thrown off, and I think that just goes back to like the old way of running restaurants and immigrants and stuff like that. But once I got in there I was like, okay, I need to make sure that I know how to do everything for one, but two, I'm going to work next to everybody, you know, and I'm going to do it with them. And that's how I ended up building such a strong team back there, because before it was like that's not my job. I'm not doing that. Tell the dish boy to do that.
Speaker 1:Or you know, I'm not prepping that.
Speaker 2:That's a real quick way to get fired. I'm not prepping that, I got a clock out. That's a real quick way to get fired. I don't fire a lot of people, but the that's not my job thing tears my nerves up. I'm like, if it's not causing you bodily harm, it's your job in here. Okay, yeah, we're all doing it.
Speaker 1:I know I'm telling you. And yeah so that was but once.
Speaker 2:I started the. I love the chaos. There's nothing like just hearing the ticket printer keep going and everybody's just moving and grooving.
Speaker 1:It's just like rolling about to hit the floor, but when, when everybody's in sync and everybody's moving, it's flowing. You know, everything's flowing. And I built a super solid team back there and kind of like you said, you know, we didn't get the best of the best back there. I mean, a lot of them were like ex-convicts, dropouts, whatever it may be, and some of them they just needed a second chance. But some of them came in and they still had old habits and at one time I almost got in a fight with a guy. I mean, it almost got that physical and everybody around me dragged that guy out for me.
Speaker 2:Because they respect you. Yeah, because they know you do the same.
Speaker 1:And they told him like yo, you got to go, so I didn't even have to fire him or nothing. He just never came back. You know, and I think that's you know from a leader's perspective. You know I respect that a lot from you Cause I can, I can see that like you are doing everything and I'm sure that's you know, sure you have your standards, but people are watching you and you it reflects it takes more.
Speaker 2:It definitely takes more effort and I think I've softened as I've gotten older. So, like 25 year old manager carly and I use this example a lot I had a guy that came in for a shift it's a friday night, he's my head cook and he had on white air force once. Okay, that's not uniform, it's black non-slip shoes, my guy you know, and there was no.
Speaker 1:I said do you have black non-slip shoes and he guy, you know, and there was no.
Speaker 2:I said, do you have black non-slip shoes? And he said no. And I said, well then you can't work your shift. And he said who's going to cook? I said I guess I am, you know. And he left and I cooked that shift. But now, 10 years later, you know, I would say to somebody, why don't you have? And that has stuck with me, why don't you have your shoes? And because now I think, like, did he get kicked out of his house? He's a teenager. Did he get kicked out of his house the night before? Can he not afford to get black non-slip shoes? Has he been wearing the same ratty pair for five years and can't afford to replace it, whatever it is? You know what I mean. Now, I'm just that person they are. So the standard doesn't change. The standard is still the black non-slip shoe. But let me help you get to the black non-slip shoe.
Speaker 2:That's a metaphor you know, for life not just black non-slip shoes but.
Speaker 1:No, that's a really good perspective. Yeah, we, I mean. Yeah, sometimes you just don't know. You know, maybe they don't have a dollar to their name and they just started, they can't even afford it, you know. So maybe you got to spot them, that's right. Another career Almost everybody that works for me is not a restaurant person.
Speaker 2:They are. I hire personalities, right, I'm not hiring positions. I'm hiring people and so when they come in they've other, they've got other things going on in their lives that they're trying to achieve and get to, and I just get to like help, support them along their way, because there's skills that you can gain from any job. Right, it doesn't matter what you do, those skills can translate over, and if you don't think that, then it's not for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, yeah, no, I love that. So let me ask you this If a customer comes in there for the first time and more than likely they're probably wanting to lose some weight I mean, they want to eat healthy. I'm assuming that's probably the majority of them If somebody comes in and they ask you guys, hey, you know what's good, like what should I get? You know what do you? Do you suggest certain things or like certain items? What's kind of like the go-to response to somebody like that?
Speaker 2:Always tell our staff that we're not selling meals, we're solving problems. So I don't want to just sell somebody a meal. You can buy a meal anywhere, right? And so there are a lot of people that come in and they go I want to lose weight, yeah, don't we all? So we start with a lot of questions and of course, you kind of read the room. Some people are more open than others. But what's our goals? What are we currently eating? What do we like? What do we not like?
Speaker 2:Let's figure out what our baseline is before, but we have things on the menu that I call less intimidating items, right? So again, I think when people think meal prep, they're thinking now, I have to eat chicken, rice and broccoli for every single meal. And when they come in and they look at our cafe menu and you see a bacon, chicken, ranch, flatbread with a side of sweet potato fries, you're like I can eat that. You know, I don't mind eating that. Or if you go over to the grab and goes to pick out a meal and you see Buffalo chicken, mac and cheese, you're like, okay, I would enjoy that, you know. Now it's next to the chicken, rice and broccoli. We got that too, you know, but it's about balance. We want you to have options.
Speaker 1:Mac and cheese sounds a lot better, I'm sure. Yeah, I mean, I will say I mean that's. That is one thing you know. We talked about that too as well. Is that I think for most people that are starting and trying to get healthy is portion control? You know, when you go out to a, you know, everyday restaurant, there's probably two to three servings on one plate. And if you come from you know, I don't want to tell my age, but if you come from like you're a little bit older, your parents taught you to finish everything on your plate.
Speaker 2:You know they're starving people, they're starving kids in other countries. Yes, eat your food.
Speaker 1:So you know, you kind of learn these habits, which you know. I understand that, but the portion size have grown over the you know decades, yeah, and so a lot of the times it's really just controlling that. I mean, we tell our clients too. You know, if you go out to eat, a lot of times, just when your food's coming out, ask for a to-go box and take half with you. That's such a good hack.
Speaker 2:And we want it to be a tool right? It's the same thing as if you get a personal trainer.
Speaker 2:If you have to have a personal trainer for 10 years, you probably should look at a different personal trainer right Like this should be a lifelong thing and for a lot of people, meal prep is a season of life, right, and so it could be just starting out I don't know how to cook and with the proper portions.
Speaker 2:And yeah, you can buy a food scale on Amazon, but that's incredibly intimidating for somebody that has no clue where to begin, right, so if we can do all of that for them. But I tell people, if you come in and you're eating our boneless wings and a side of mac and cheese for lunch every day from our grab and go, then when you go out to the restaurant and you're having a couple of beers and you're watching the game and you order boneless wings and a side of mac and cheese, you now know in your head what a four-ounce portion of this looks like, or what about 30 grams of protein of chicken is going to look like, instead of just eating the entire thing and you might still eat the entire thing but at least you can kind of track the calories in your head a little better.
Speaker 1:That's funny, but you know I will say cause you have, you have in dining, but you also obviously like can get meal prep. And I really don't want to say this because I felt like it was my own little hack. But when, uh, the hurricane came through, um, you know grocery stores were empty. You know it was hard to like get because people are stocking up and I remember contacting you and you're like we're stocked up to the brim. I was like I'm going to be there in a minute and I ordered, I grabbed food for the whole week.
Speaker 2:We learned that through COVID. So what was so sad was seeing so many businesses shut their doors during COVID because people weren't going out to eat right. But we had our best year. I mean, we exploded during COVID because people shocker found out they should probably start eating a little better taking care of themselves.
Speaker 2:And then they couldn't go to the grocery store because the grocery store was out of everything. So I mean we were just people were in nonstop. So many people discovered us during COVID because they couldn't go out and so they were just ordering meals or coming and grabbing meals and going yeah.
Speaker 1:That's a crazy opportunity. Yeah, I mean because it made my life super easy. I mean a lot of people. If you're, if your focus is trying to get time back, you don't want to be thinking about what you have to eat for lunch or where you're going to go. You know I was going. There's a restaurant down the street. I was going to go get something for lunch one day and in my mind first off, the line was wrapped around the whole building. There's people like lined up inside. I'm like if you had an hour break I'd be stressing yes, you know, I'm like, oh my God, like I'm not going to have time to eat this thing by the time I get you know back to the office or wherever they got to go. So eliminating a lot of that can free up your time and obviously have you a lot less stressed throughout the day On top of our grab-and-go's.
Speaker 2:You can obviously eat those for lunch. I stress my line cooks out, because I write the ticket time on every single ticket that they send out, because I'm like these people got to get back to work okay. We need to get this food out in less than 10 minutes because they have 30 minutes to an hour. Like let's go. It stresses them out, but the customers love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So let me, I want to switch gears just a little bit, because you know I want to go back to the fact because, again, we're very like workaholics we love to work, you know. We love our jobs. I think that's part of it. Yeah, but you also have a family. You know you're married, you have a daughter, correct?
Speaker 1:Yep, she's six, six years, yeah, so how do you juggle all of that right, like managing employees, a business you know, making sure that you're there and present with your family, going to church, like doing all of that? How do you find a way that crafts that integrates, because I don't think that they're. In my personal opinion, balance is very hard. So, things have to integrate with each other, right? So how do?
Speaker 2:you do it so. But work-life balance is such a buzzword, right, like everybody talks about work-life balance, and I used to think that, like I had to be, you know, balanced and I still do have a balance. But what I've realized, as it's not every day balanced, it might be work and then home, and then work and then home, and then three works real hard and then two, you know. So, like at the end of the year, did we? Were we balanced? Not on like a day to day where we balanced, but um, I, I just I truly do have the best job, like I love. If you're going to work in the restaurant industry, clean Eats is the restaurant to work out. We close at 7 during the week.
Speaker 1:That's nice.
Speaker 2:And we're only open 12 to 4 on the weekends, and so it allows people to have a life outside of their job, right, because we're working to live, not living to work. And so I do get to be home in the evenings with my daughter and we do, you know, bath time and bedtime and schoolwork and playtime and all of that stuff, and then I'm home on the weekends with her. Again, it comes down to like having a really strong team that I've been very intentional in creating so that when I'm not there it's still running as if I was there, because they take a lot of pride in it. So it's, but it's, it's intentional and it's hard work and it is sometimes exhausting, right, like there's.
Speaker 2:I think I cannot remember what podcast I was listening to, but he was talking about some people are going to get this and some people don't. How everything needs to be time blocked and that can feel very disingenuous, to say, time with husband. You know what I mean. But for somebody that's busy and is trying to be intentional with their time, it is important to schedule in that time to go on a weekend trip with your significant other kid-free, or to take my daughter and do something just her, or make sure that I'm still volunteering at church and keeping the nursery on Sunday or whatever it is at church and keeping the nursery on Sunday or whatever it is. You know, it's just. Everything is time blocked and that can feel really again disingenuous and kind of exhausting to some people, but it's the. For me it's the only way to make sure that it's getting done and getting it in.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of. If there's business owners listening, they'll really grasp that concept because you know, as as we have these businesses, our minds never turn off Right. You're constantly like thinking of ideas and concepts and things that you have to do. You know, employees, whatever.
Speaker 2:You saw the notes app in my phone. It is you know what I mean Like it's just like random to-do lists that are just continuing, or shopping lists or business ideas, like that's all. It is right, the next thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I live my life on schedule time block everything. I time block time with my family. But that tells me, it gives me the signal like, okay, Chris, turn off the day, Like you're done for the day, You'll pick it up. Because I think a lot of us in the beginning were like I got to catch up. I got to catch up. You are never catching up no you're never caught up.
Speaker 1:If you're working a lot to know down the road that you're going to have more family, that's at the priority list or whatever you have going on, you're crafting a life that you want. But sometimes, yeah, it takes working 10, 12, 14 hours a day sometimes I've been there and sometimes again. If you really enjoy what you like, it can be hard, but you got to set some boundaries. You know, like I think you probably heard me say this too as far as, like, people think of time blocking or boundaries as restrictive, right, like, oh, I don't want people to tell me what to do, I don't want to restrict myself.
Speaker 1:But I always use the example of, you know, having a dog and a fence. You know what is the purpose of having a fence. It's not to be mean or cruel to a dog, it's to, you know, one, give it exercise. It can run, it can play, but it also it protects them from running in the street getting hit by a car or something coming in and attacking it. Those boundaries are set in place for a bigger reason and I think if people start to grasp that concept for their life, they're going to see that they have more time for their family. They're going to be more productive at work. They're going to have time for the gym and take care of their health. When you start to put things in places, it just makes everyday life easier. It doesn't mean it always goes perfectly, but at least you have a standard of the way that things are going. You can audit, you can change it. Things always change your life.
Speaker 2:It's so true. Especially when people say I don't have time. I'm like do you, Do you not have time? Because we're all busy, we just are. I get up really early. I get up at 4.30. And that's not everybody's cup of tea and I'm not advocating for that. I also go to bed really early. I just function better in the morning. So I get up really early at 4.30, but then I'm in bed and asleep by 9, 9.30 at the very latest. But from 4.30, we hit the ground running in the morning and we're going until the end of the day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I want to, I want to, I want to bring up something.
Speaker 1:So, if you're okay with it. So if a lot of people, if you've listened to the podcast, obviously I know my father passed had cancer and we've talked a lot because I know your mother's going through it right now. How do you help someone that's listening that maybe it's not cancer, maybe it's something else that's, you know, dramatic in their life? How do you still push forward through the day with something that's very heavy and also time consuming, Cause you know I was driving my parents?
Speaker 2:up to Duke university every three weeks.
Speaker 1:You know that's a two day venture, sometimes three. You know, same same with you Like how do you, how do you keep your head strong and focused and still be there for for them?
Speaker 2:So you know, I said that I didn't come from a healthy family, and so my mindset now is I didn't come from a healthy family. My mindset now is I didn't come from a healthy family, so I need to make sure that a healthy family comes from me. I think a lot about my mom, but then I also think a lot about my daughter. They're very close my mom. When I tell people about her I think your mind goes to her being much older. Because she fell at home. She broke her femur and they did a CT scan. They found the mass in her colon and on her liver through that CT scan. So they're like, hey, not only broke your femur surprise you also have stage four colon cancer. So that sounds like an elderly person. My mom is 55. She is so young and I'm an only child and my mom is type one diabetic and so she has struggled with complications throughout my my entire life and so she just is not a healthy person. And so I think my brain has always maybe mentally prepared myself for what I am doing now. Right, because I take her to all of her doctor's visits and I take her to chemo and that kind of thing because she needs me and she needs that support and I don't blame her at all. But like when I'm rocking around the neighborhood with a 20-pound weighted vest on and looking like a crazy person, I'm like, but I'm not going to have osteoporosis at 55 years old, you know, like your mindset just changes to where, like we talked about this before like there's just some things, you just have to get it done. People are like, how are you doing? And I'm like I mean, we're just doing it, you just have to get stuff done Right. And we can sit around and feel sorry for ourselves and don't get me wrong, I have, we all have those moments of grief, but life goes on and the more you can control. And you sent me that text message so I have to give him credit because so many people will and everybody means well, they always send thoughts and prayers. And don't get me wrong, I will take all the thoughts and all the prayers that anybody wants to give me and I'm so grateful for all of those messages. But your message to me was so like just you could tell you understood exactly what I was going through because you yourself had been through it. So to like, give that little encouragement of like hey, I know where you're at, let's control what we can control. Like you gave me like tangible things to do to like actually help. You know what I mean. And I appreciated that so much because, like that was already what I was mulling over in my head every day Like, okay, you got to do this. You can control what you can control. You can only do so much. Like, let's just get it done. And so, like to anybody else that's struggling with anything, like there's always going to be things Like y'all.
Speaker 2:2025 has been a roller coaster. I deal with grief, with humor, because like how else would you deal with it? So I joke that like 2025 has been like my country song Like my dog died, my mom got cancer. You know what I mean. It's just like a steamrolled thing. But yeah, we just still have to show up every day and get the things done. And it just gets easier and it gets better. And you have to tell yourself that it's a season, like that's what I've been telling people. Like I'm a sad girl right now, but it's just a season, right, it's not a chronic thing, we're just in a sad season, but we'll just keep going. Like at my core I know that my joy comes from the Lord and that joy is still there and just sad on top of it you know, yeah, yeah, no, I mean yeah, I sent that message.
Speaker 1:I think you know a lot of people they say like, oh, you don't understand what I'm going through. And you know nobody understands me and maybe not everybody does, you know, but there is somebody that's kind of been there, that's gone through it, that's going through it and I find strength within that because you know, like you said, you probably were thinking of things that I have messaged you. It just confirms, you know, and for me, things that help me, you know, push forward is that, you know, just because, first off, we're all guaranteed one thing in life you know we're only in this body for so long, you know, and so that's always there. But things that kind of bring me peace is we were kind of talking off set about this, about whatever you believe in in some sort of faith I think it could be very scary to think that your life is like a light switch. You know it's like you're on and then you're off and there's nothing, it's just darkness. You know, I can see that being very like, you know, scary for people, because you know nobody wants any of the people that they love to be in darkness, you know.
Speaker 1:But if you have some sort of faith or you believe in Jesus and God and there's eternal life, then I find peace in knowing that he didn't have any more quality of life the past two years, three years, you know I was like what is he fighting for? You know, I mean he fought for cause. I mean, you know my, my father was 65, so young though, you know, and um, and he's a workaholic, you know, probably 10 times as much as me. You know, I got, I got a sliver of balance. He had zero Um, but you know, with him I just knew that, you know, when you have that purpose and that that joy is kind of taken away, then, you know, I can see people kind of going downhill because they're not fighting anymore. You know.
Speaker 1:But I understood, yeah, you know, and I think you have to. You know, work through your emotions and give your time. You know everybody, you know again, deals with it differently. You have to have time for yourself to like grieve and all that. But you got to pick yourself up. Life does not stop. No, you know, work doesn't stop.
Speaker 2:Your bank doesn't stop calling for the bills Like life still goes on and think of think of where you would be mentally If you did let that, if you did let yourself wallow in that for too long. You know all you're doing is setting yourself back further and further and further. You're making it worse on yourself when you come out of the other side, instead of continuing to do these little things that you know you should be doing every single day and getting those tasks done and getting your routine in. Then, when you come out on the other side, you're not really further behind, right?
Speaker 2:And that's what I have to keep telling myself. Girl, this is just a season. We still have such big goals to achieve. We can't stop. We can't sit and stop for too long. Take a minute and rest, yes, but we don't stop. We keep going, and I think my mom is so strong in her faith she has no doubt in her mind where she is going. The Bible tells her that she is going to be made new right. So this body that has failed her her entire adult life, that goes away. With death comes new life, and so she is looking forward to that in a way, and I understand for people that aren't followers of Christ, like that might be crazy to think of, but it has made everybody else, like our whole family has such a sense of peace about that, because we truly know where she's going and what she's, what's awaiting her, and it's way better than anything that we have here on this earth, you know. So I think that helps a lot too.
Speaker 1:I would say that I'm sure that's helpful because, because of how young she is, it can be extremely difficult if she was like I'm not ready, yeah, you know. Versus like okay, like let's work through this and just kind of see what happens, but at the same time she knows that there's some, some better life afterwards. So I appreciate you sharing that. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's important because there are people out there that are listening, that even I've talked to, that are going through different things and they'll shut down for weeks, months and, like I, a lot of times even use my son, my wife, to like keep me focused because, again, I'm trying to be a leader, a protector. I want them to like see that, okay, things happen, but dad's still like, he's still going, he's still pushing. What's wrong with him, you know?
Speaker 2:he doesn't. He doesn't feel, he has no emotions. He's AI, but like I, have my feelings.
Speaker 1:Such a compliment, yeah, Like I. Yeah, no kidding, but I I just process it different and again, I've had my moments. But life, life goes on and I think you want to provide a good life for the ones that you love, so you got to show up.
Speaker 2:Well, and the support, like you said, your wife and your and your son, same for me, my husband and my daughter, like the people that you surround yourself matter to. Like my husband knows that I have big goals for myself. So like he's going to be sensitive towards me but he's not going to let me sit and wallow. You know he's going to be like, come on, let's get up. We got stuff to do Like you've got. You know you've got life to live. You got people to love on and take care of. And like we have goals for ourselves, you know.
Speaker 1:So it's just, it's being around people, whether that kind of like. I'm trying to get healthier, I want to stop drinking, I want to stop smoking. What are some things you feel like they could start to try to get them some momentum in getting you know, changing their life into a different direction? Like, what are some? Were there anything that you did that you felt like was like really good nuggets, that really kind of propelled you forward?
Speaker 2:I think, I truly think, it goes back to surrounding yourself with those people Like you are the sum of the five people that you spend the most time with. So if you can just get, I always, I always say like, put me in the room, like, if you can just put me in the room with them you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I can schmooze my way, I can fake it until I make it Just like put me in the room with the really successful people and so like, just get yourself in the room, whether that room is Clean Eats, or that room is the gym or whatever that room is for you, where it just is going to. You know it's going to level you up. Like, start there, just walk in. I promise you, there are people that are dying me to love you and take care of you and help you, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I think, 100% for sure. I think that is especially if you're from like a small town. You know being from. I don't know if I've mentioned this on the podcast or not, but you know, working in the restaurant in Bowling Springs is a small town We'd have. There was a server. She was had to be in her mid late sixties. You know super nice Southern lady, um, but I I remember sitting outside with her one day and just kind of talking to her and she told me she has never left Spartanburg County.
Speaker 2:That is wild.
Speaker 1:It hasn't ever gone to Greenville, which is, you know, 30 minutes away.
Speaker 2:Our daily commute? Yeah, our daily commute.
Speaker 1:You and I are back and forth every day, but you're talking about 60-something years and never left this, just this radius, and it starts to think and you know again, I'm not judging, but you only know what you know and so when you start to surround yourself with people that have experienced life, gone through you know other, even dramatic, or you know high levels of different experiences, I think that will open up your mind to what's actually like possible, what you can get through. So for me, again, like separating myself from certain people, getting in a room, um, podcast is why I started the podcast. You know, when I started into the coaching space, I mean I knew how to get people in shape and stuff like that. But business is different. And so, getting on YouTube, you know, watching mentors on there, that you know. There is a guy that I've always wanted to like work under, you know, and like learn from him, teach from him. And when I started in 2020, he was 50 grand for the year. I'm like, okay, well, maybe one day, you know. And so a couple of years go by and but within this timeframe, he's got so much content on YouTube, he's got his own podcast. This is all free, you know, and he's just unloading, telling you everything. And so I just consume, consume, consume. And to this day I still keep up to him.
Speaker 1:And I ran into a friend at a conference down in Florida and my mentor at the time was actually putting this whole event on and I was like, oh dude, I was like, are you working with this guy now? And he was like, no, actually I signed up with Bejos. Bejos was the guy. I was like, oh damn, I was like Bedros. I was like, and he, what's he charging now? And he was like 100. Dang, 100k for the year. And I was like dang dude. And he was like, yeah well, you know, we just did over a mil this year. So you know, I know it's a lot, but I'm going to try. I called him four months later. Four months later doubled his revenue in four month time. I was like no wonder he charged a hundred thousand dollars. He done made it all back. I was like I don't have a hundred thousand dollars to give you, but, but, uh, but, but when?
Speaker 1:I go, yeah, once I make that yeah, but but I I say that to say you know, you know that's one thing to invest in a mentor, but don't stop yourself from consuming like free stuff, that's like available to you, and just implement we're living in a time where, I mean, there's never been so many free resources.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that was a big driver for me was personal development, like I didn't even know really what that was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right Back in the day Like and Jim Rohn was the first like personal development motivational speaker and I just his stuff was on cassette but you can YouTube him now and just listen but he says, um, that you have to work harder on yourself than you do at your job. And remember, I told you like I've always been a hard worker, but I was wasn't just spinning my wheels, you wheels, I wasn't getting where I wanted to be, and so I had never heard that. And it just something switched in my head when I heard that you got to work harder on yourself than you do at your job. And I mean it truly did change my life and where I went. And again, like you said, there's so many people that there's so many books, podcasts, youtube channels that you can get in. So if you can't change the five people around you right now, just pick five people to start filling your brain with, you know.
Speaker 1:It will open up doors.
Speaker 2:You've never even experienced.
Speaker 1:It's funny. I was just I had a client in this morning and we were actually talking about that just kind of like routines through the day, and he's like I don't know if you ever noticed, but he's like when I get off my routine, I think I feel like things fall apart. I was like what do you mean by that? And he's like, well, he's like every day I do my devotional, I you know journal, I listen to an audio book or a podcast, and he's like I don't know, I just have these things that I do.
Speaker 1:And I noticed this past week that I was just like really busy. I had to stay out late a couple of nights to finish jobs and things like that. And he's like I had started finding myself like going down this rabbit hole of just not caring and not doing the things that I was supposed to be doing. And I was like that's funny, yeah, cause I was like kind of like you were saying every time you're in the car you're listening to you know gospels or certain person. If I'm in the car podcast, yeah, I do not. Radio, what's that? I don't need that.
Speaker 2:I know I have a few podcasts that I listen to and catch up on and then just switch over to praise and worship and then that's what I want in my brain, you know.
Speaker 1:Because I'll be driving and I'll be listening to stuff and I'm like oh. Like little ideas are just like dropped in there. So it has nothing to do with the podcast either cranking. So you know, I think, for you guys, find that avenue, find that way to get creative and, you know, work on yourself. That is, I think the higher that you can put yourself, the better you can serve everybody else. If you are broken and don't know what you're doing with your life, how could you potentially help anybody you can't?
Speaker 2:That's right, and if you. My one disclaimer on personal development is if you find someone, because there's so many people out there, right, that are experts and gurus on things, and so if you find somebody, do a quick Google search and see what they have built for themselves, and if they have not built anything, perhaps don't take their advice with a grain of salt, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, perhaps I like how you word that. Yeah, don't take their advice with a grain of salt, you know. Yeah, perhaps Like I can word that, yeah. And also I would also say make sure your values align.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Make sure your values align, you know. More specifically, you know, since we're talking business, I was looking for certain mentors and you know there's a lot of them. So I do my due diligence, I'm researching and things like that, but there are some people that I just I couldn't vibe with, you know either. They were just very foul at the mouth and no judgment. I just choose to be careful with the way that I talk. You know, sometimes they'll come out, but, like I do my best to not just be saying the F bomb every, every other sentence, but also the way that you acquire business. You know, and I did. I had, I had a guy that was teaching me sales at one time and he was like you pressure these people so hard and they're either buying or they're cussing you out and hanging up the phone, and I just found that to be so like, not me, and uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:And I was like we're here to help people and I am not about to pressure people into things that they do not want to do, Because I realized the people that if you force people to do things they don't want to do, they're the worst people to be around.
Speaker 2:Because they don't want to be there.
Speaker 1:I want people to like let me open the door.
Speaker 2:And word of mouth swings both ways If you have a customer or a client and you wow them. Like I love to brag on people. If I have a great experience, I'm telling everybody about the experience that I had, but if I had a negative experience, I'm also telling everybody about the negative experience that. I had so word of mouth is our biggest driver. So if a customer comes in or a client comes in and you've pressured them or made them feel uncomfortable, you have to know that they're going and telling people that Don't work with that guy.
Speaker 2:He's real pushy.
Speaker 1:Nobody wants that. No for sure. Thank God, I'm on your good side because I know how you network.
Speaker 2:I do. I truly do love. That's the biggest way that I find success in networking is just supporting other small businesses, the way that I want to be supported, so like if I truly believe in somebody and align with them and feel like they're doing good work, like I want to push their stuff out to everybody and I want to tell people about them because I want them to be successful.
Speaker 1:Right, because we're all just doing our best, doing our part, trying to stay afloat. No, but you're crushing it. I'm super impressed.
Speaker 2:You too.
Speaker 1:And I want to thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks for having me. This is fun.
Speaker 1:So do you want to give them? Where can they follow you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So if you're local, clean Eats is at 3608. We're on Pelham Road in the Earth Fair Shopping Center. Again, we're open 11 to 7, monday through Friday and then 12 to four on Saturday and Sunday. If you want to follow my personal account, I'm on Instagram at mother hugger Jones and then our clean eats account is clean eats with a Z, g, v, l, like the abbreviation for Greenville.
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Speaker 2:Number one clean eats. I'll make sure to send this to all the other franchises. They'll love that. They'll love that.
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