Back from break, we kick things off talking through Vegas trip plans, dance club preferences, and holiday highs and lows. From eye color to parenting antics, this episode is all over the place but we have a blast getting things back on track. We return with Greg's Reads of the Week (Month?) and actually have a double Word of the Week! And when we get to your voicemails we address everything from rough patches in your twenties to our individual feelings on pickles. So buckle up for an episode that goes everywhere and nowhere all at once!
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Back from break, we kick things off talking through Vegas trip plans, dance club preferences, and holiday highs and lows. From eye color to parenting antics, this episode is all over the place but we have a blast getting things back on track. We return with Greg's Reads of the Week (Month?) and actually have a double Word of the Week! And when we get to your voicemails we address everything from rough patches in your twenties to our individual feelings on pickles. So buckle up for an episode that goes everywhere and nowhere all at once!
If you've got a voicemail or want our (likely unqualified) advice on something, hit us up at the Speakpipe link below!
http://www.speakpipe.com/oversharingwiththeoverbys
If you'd like to email us you can reach the pod at oversharing@jojohnsonoverby.com!
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Welcome to Oversharing with Overbys. I'm Jo. And I'm Matt, and each week you can tune in to hear us respond to your voice mails, go in depth on our lives as content creators and hopefully we'll be doing even better than we found you.
Matt:With that being said, let's get to oversharing. I know that, guess what.
Jo:What? This week we found out that one of my best friends from college is getting married in Vegas over the winter, yeah, and we're gonna get to go.
Matt:I hope. Yeah, we're not really Vegas people, but I think it'll be fun.
Jo:Why aren't we Vegas people?
Matt:I don't know I don't feel like we gamble.
Jo:What does that mean? What does it mean to not be Vegas people?
Matt:I don't know, I just I don't feel like we gamble. Maybe we're just not fun enough.
Jo:But does that make us not Vegas people?
Matt:I don't know. We went to Vegas.
Jo:When you say not Vegas people, I think of people who, like, actively disliked something.
Matt:Anti. We're not anti Vegas people, that's true. Like I don't know what I'm saying. I don't know what I'm saying. No, I just don't think of us as Vegas people.
Jo:I like to have fun. Yeah, you know what I want to do. I want to go to a dance club.
Matt:Okay, that we could probably do, do you?
Jo:know what my friend that's getting married won't be doing.
Matt:Going to a dance club.
Jo:Yeah, that like could not be further from her personality. Yeah, I do feel like the people going.
Matt:Aren't interested in going to a dance club.
Jo:No.
Matt:I am. We're looking for a high energy crowd.
Jo:Yeah, I just want to like jump around a little bit, you know yeah.
Matt:I get that, I'm with you there, but again, we're not like a sit at a table play games for a long time.
Jo:Like gambling games, yeah, I was going to say we love a good game night.
Matt:Sure, but that's not exactly what happens in Vegas.
Jo:Right, right, right. I hear you, unless there's like a board game convention.
Matt:I would guess, then that might happen.
Jo:Oh Vegas board game convention.
Matt:I'm 100% certain that there is one there. Yeah, probably, or has been.
Jo:Can you imagine how many conventions I want to look that up how many conventions take place a year in Vegas?
Matt:Hundreds, maybe thousands.
Jo:I would say thousands yeah.
Matt:Probably.
Jo:Anyway, just food for thought. How is everybody? How is your start to the new year? I hope that everybody is doing well and had a great holiday season. Yeah, I feel like we had a nice time getting to take a step away and kind of recharge. We got a lot done around the house.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Jo:Caught up on a lot of chores. Matt's done a lot of laundry.
Matt:We're staring at behind the camera right now Hundreds of pieces of laundry that have been folded and are ready to be put away.
Jo:Yeah, there's kids laundry, there's grown up laundry, there's everything laundry.
Matt:I feel a little bit late at night so you can't just like bust into the kids room and be like doing laundry. Go back to sleep.
Jo:I know it's 1 am, although we've been having a little intruder in the night.
Matt:She's fun though. Yeah, she's cute when she breaks into our room.
Jo:Yeah.
Matt:Big girl bed is good, but has its moments where sometimes she runs through the house and you hear the pitter-patter of little feet yeah, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop and then flies into the room. What scared me is you woke up to take a bath because you didn't feel good.
Matt:Yeah, and I thought there was a leak in our house yeah, matt almost I thought the outdoor spigot had busted and that there was just gushing water inside of our house and based on how loud it was, I was like, oh no, we have seconds to react. I had just fallen asleep, so I was not in my right mind I had not just fallen asleep, okay. It felt like I had just fallen asleep.
Jo:You'd been asleep for hours.
Matt:Not hours. What time was that? Like three? I thought it was like 145. No, no, okay.
Jo:No, you would.
Matt:So I was solidly asleep for a minute. Okay yeah, just kidding.
Jo:I have this really weird. No, I don't know if it's weird or not, but when I feel really sick. I always get in the bath, and so last night I woke up in the middle of the night. So sick to my stomach, yeah.
Matt:I feel like a warm bath would make me feel worse.
Jo:You know, in theory, when I hear it, even last night, when I didn't feel good, it didn't sound appealing.
Matt:It works for you, like you do it every time and you feel better when you get in the tub. But when I'm sick, especially like sick to my stomach, the idea of getting in something hot sounds horrible.
Jo:I completely agree. Yeah, like nothing about it. Sounds appealing to me.
Matt:Like laying on the floor of a cold shower sounds better than getting in a hot tub.
Jo:That doesn't sound good either.
Matt:No, but like it would cool you off.
Jo:Yeah, I hear you. No, I agree with everything you're saying.
Matt:It's just that my direct experiences- Again, it works for you, so I don't critique.
Jo:You can barely lean in and I thought you were worried about me. I was like, oh weird, he's never worried about me, like in that regard.
Matt:No, I was shocked to see you in there.
Jo:Well, it scared the crap out of me.
Matt:Well, no joke, because you tried to sneak in there.
Jo:Well, I know. And so when the door opened I was like shoot, because I was trying really hard, because G had fallen asleep in our room.
Matt:You thought it was her and she was asleep in the bed with you.
Jo:So when I got up I like tiptoed and I shut our bathroom door and I tried to be really quiet and I didn't even I turned the tub, not all the way on to make it not do like the loud onto the anyway. Then, when I heard the door open, I was like shoot. And I looked over and I was like looking at your knees expecting to see a toddler, and when it was you, it's it really. Really it was a jump scare.
Matt:Yeah, I thought our house was flooding and you thought there was a home invader.
Jo:I didn't think there was a home invader, I just wasn't.
Matt:I like it surprised me to see you up because you were very asleep I was, and out of my sleep I was like oh no, our house is flooding.
Jo:That's so funny.
Matt:I reacted quickly.
Jo:You did I mean kind of.
Matt:What do you mean? Kind of?
Jo:The tub had been on for a second. Sure, so we are back. I'm excited for this year. We have a lot of things we're hoping to do with the podcast and we're kind of thinking maybe re-up in our location, a little bit within the house.
Matt:Oh for filming.
Jo:Yeah, at some point. So be on the lookout for that. I've been trying to decide kind of where. Yeah, I look, you just want to post up on our bed.
Matt:Like we're both just sitting on the bed. Yeah, what's okay.
Jo:Just sounds cozy.
Matt:Okay, seems weird, but that's not down, but. I'm open to it. I'm not anti.
Jo:What are you doing? Do you need something to fiddle with?
Matt:Maybe what did you find? Beaded hair tie? I don't have to do.
Jo:Okay, sorry, team, we had to exit for a second and find Matt something to fidget with because, holy cannoli, because you were going to go insane. I, that is something that I really do Hate about me. Oh my gosh, no, is that how you think? No, okay, wow, no, no. No, I don't feel that strongly, I just it's very distracting.
Matt:Yeah.
Jo:Like extremely distracting. I can do this where you have something in your hand that you're actively messing with, but the way when you don't have something to put that energy toward the way when I'm talking to you, I watch you not focusing on me at all, and I realize well, I think you correct me if I'm wrong. Okay, I perceive it as you are focusing on me and you focus better on what I'm saying when you're able to kind of keep busy with something like that. But if you don't have something like that, it looks like you're not paying attention to anything I say and you're only focused on finding something to fidget with To a degree.
Matt:Yeah yeah, I don't know if I have my internal feelings understood that well, but it does help me to have something I can put physical energy into so I can listen.
Jo:Yeah. And make eye contact, I think.
Matt:Yeah, oh, like if I have something yes, that helps significantly. Otherwise, I just stare at you and I'm like whoa, this is a lot.
Jo:If he's not fidgeting with something, eye contact is probably not going to happen.
Matt:It, can it has to be intentional. It has to be intentional.
Jo:And then it takes a lot of mental labor for you.
Matt:I feel like whoa, we're staring right into each other's eyes.
Jo:This week. Okay, I know that the plan today is kind of update you guys on the last month of our life. We're going to talk about highs and lows from the holidays and all of that. But before I go there, I wanted to note one more thing that I posted a picture on my story this week where you could really see your eye color. What are you doing? That's so scary Anybody watching on YouTube. I'm so sorry. I was trying to show my eyes, yeah, but I don't think you needed to.
Matt:I don't think that that was she didn't like how I did it. No, I did not Sorry.
Jo:Uh my gosh, we are a disaster. A lot of practice, People online saw for the first time that your eyes aren't green.
Matt:That's shocking.
Jo:Not what I said, that your eyes aren't brown.
Matt:Yeah, they're a dark hazel.
Jo:Yeah, and they have like a pretty green tone to them.
Matt:They float between green and blue and brown somewhere in there.
Jo:And anyway I posted and so many people DM me and were like wait a second, is this me finding out that your eyes aren't brown? And I said I guess.
Matt:I used to. I had brown on my driver's license for a long time until you were like your eyes aren't brown, no.
Jo:I understand, like I don't think that anybody's going to look at that on your license and go absolutely not Fraud. Yeah, it's not like that. It's not like you have blue eyes or anything.
Matt:But, the people at the DMV never said anything.
Jo:No, but if you take a picture of, or maybe you're just a different variety of brown.
Matt:No, it's hazel Like hazel's an option on your driver's license. That's what mine says now.
Jo:Feel like there's a lot bigger of a spectrum of color of eyes than what we have it narrowed down to, because what I think of as hazel Is much more like blue okay, like a blue-gray Not a brown green.
Matt:Oh, I was thinking it was a blue green, like it's not blue, it's not green, it's hazel.
Jo:I Mean, I think you're right. Yeah, I think that you're spot-on.
Matt:Oh, okay. But I'm now I do think there's a broad range of colors that your eyes can be. Yeah, just like there's a broad range of colors.
Jo:Well, when I think of green, I think of those people that have the like ice green ice.
Matt:You know what I'm talking about. I've never heard of ice cream.
Jo:Well, it's like it's that same time. You know how Billy eyelashes eyes are.
Matt:They're blue and not intimately, but I can really yeah, like I feel like. You know that you say that, but you said it to me as though it's something I should be having in the front of my mind.
Jo:They're like that really okay. Wait, I have an example here that I'm going to give them. So if you look over at that series of books over there on the wall that says ugly, specials, pretty's uh-huh when I think of green eyes, I think of the color of that pretty's Spine got it. Okay and when I think of blue, I think of that ugly that's a mint chocolate chip green. Yeah, like I know people that have mint chocolate chip.
Matt:green eyes yes, oh.
Jo:Wow, like crazy.
Matt:I think it's just some pictures.
Jo:I know that's what. That's why I'm like those are not the same. No.
Matt:But I don't know that the DMV it's that important.
Jo:Yeah, I hear you distinguish, I hear you.
Matt:It's just to make sure, like you are roughly who your ID says you are okay. People lie about their height and weight on those all the Times.
Jo:So I don't.
Matt:I don't either, but people do.
Jo:Matt and I measured ourselves this week.
Matt:We've measured ourselves multiple times over the holidays.
Jo:It's because I really don't believe me.
Matt:Yeah, I don't feel like you believe me either.
Jo:Yeah, that's also true.
Matt:Yeah, because I'm six two and you've measured me twice to check that in the last month.
Jo:I have, I Don't know, you just don't hold six, two energy perfect.
Matt:You know love to hear that I don't think I hold you have the confidence of a five, six man.
Jo:No, it's not that either, because that would be interesting.
Matt:No, my short Kings out there.
Jo:We love the short Kings. No, I, I don't know. I think maybe it's because I'm tall. I don't know what it is.
Matt:You grew up around swimmers. That's what it is. That's what it's always been I.
Jo:But what does that have to do with anything?
Matt:you're used to being around Men that are a baseline of six foot. Yeah, I agree with that and well into Six, five, six.
Jo:Yeah, that's true.
Matt:And so, and there was not tall for you.
Jo:I think also. I don't think it's just that I think I was around a very specific body type of person too, and I think it's the same reason people don't think I'm tall. Yeah and it's because I'm like more stout, for sure, and so people are used to five, nine being Really long, yeah, and I'm not long.
Matt:We're not slender people.
Jo:No. Stout we're stout, we're thick. Yeah, I like us.
Matt:Yeah, we're solid, you can't tip us over.
Jo:No, you cannot tip us over, that's right.
Matt:Well, you can, but you got to go low. Sweep the leg. Okay well, the bigger they are, the harder they. What are?
Jo:weaknesses. Do we have that we can just lay out on this podcast? Our water main is here and if you really want to get us, go low and sweep the legs.
Matt:I have corrective lenses so yeah, Matt has corrective lenses. You do too, but I don't have corrective lenses as she wears glasses. That's the joke. Thanks for the podcast crowd.
Jo:Thanks for clarifying.
Matt:Yeah, no, what else? What else are we bad at? Is that in some of your resolutions it's like exposing Weaknesses?
Jo:Yeah, I suggested we call the episode New Year, same us. But I really do want to get. Okay, I can't that silently okay, that's a little dramatic, but sure yeah, I would like you to insert right here the clip from earlier.
Matt:Yeah, so went through Christmas, went through New Year's, anything else.
Jo:Great, you guys are caught up.
Matt:Okay, maybe not. You know what. We'll let the people decide, okay, anyway.
Jo:For me Honestly not my best holiday. No, no, definitely not but probably one of the best holiday gifts like gifts roundups for me that I've had In a long time, maybe my adult life Okay that's good.
Matt:Yeah, feels good.
Jo:Yeah, matt, I mean we. It's not like I got a ton of gifts or anything got very few gifts. I got one gift from Matt and I got Matt and I together got a gift from my parents and then my parents got, your parents get me the same thing every single year and it is always my top gift.
Jo:Yes, it is like it's one forever, so I don't even feel the need to mention it. Got it because I will mention it, but it's like forever my favorite thing and you're not like missing out on anything. Matt's mom three years ago started getting me a whole sale seed catalog For and they're like what I think they're like 499.
Matt:I don't know. That seems impossible. There's so many pages. I feel like it has to be at least like 15 bucks. Oh, maybe it is like how, like how big it is color printed, maybe it's $15.
Jo:I don't know.
Matt:It could be $40 and I still would be like that kind of makes sense.
Jo:I have it right here guys.
Matt:It's huge. It's like 10,000 pages of full color photos. Oh, coffee table books have less printing than this.
Jo:I was hoping it would tell me how much it costs.
Matt:They mean it might.
Jo:I'm not seeing it, oh, 1295.
Matt:Okay, okay, more than four dollars 1295 and 24, $195 and 23 oh, no inflation 1495 this year. Which is 24, but 23 confused me. I was like yeah, that's this year.
Jo:They're these gorgeous uh catalogs of seeds for your garden and she gets them. I got so excited like I think she wasn't prepared for how excited I was gonna get the First year that she got them for me, yeah, and I Freaked out. I was so excited about it, that was, and so Every single year she's just gotten it for me again and I keep them and I'm gonna keep them all displayed Because they're stunning.
Matt:Yeah, that was part of your when you're on your plant journey. I'm still on my plant journey, for sure, but, like, as you were really starting, yeah, I still haven't gotten into outdoor plants the way I want to.
Jo:So I really that's something I really want to dive into and I just haven't had the opportunity. There's a lot of but. So You're right, my parents did, your parents did get me things, but they're always the winners and we didn't do so. We had kind of a dramatic holiday because we had grandparents end up in the hospital everybody's fine and recovering but it kind of threw a Wrench in our normal holiday plans.
Matt:Yeah, the plan was to host everybody for thanks or for Christmas. Yeah and Instead people had to travel to where the grandparents were because they were unwell.
Jo:So it worked out great, everything was fine, but Anyway, we didn't do Christmas with your parents until just a few nights ago.
Matt:Yes, yeah, so I'm a little off my game there but my Christmas gifts?
Jo:my parents got us a Robo vacuum. Yep, and I'm over the moon about it.
Matt:I'm excited for it. I just now got our house picked up enough to get it to map the house. I have fancy one wanting a robo vacuum.
Jo:How long have I been talking about this?
Matt:How long have we had floors?
Jo:I don't know a long time, like six or seven years I've wanted one and it's one of those things I don't know why I just couldn't Find it in me to spend the money on it.
Matt:Was it just like I know I can vacuum the floors?
Jo:Well, yeah, like I own a vacuum, yeah, and I can vacuum the floors myself.
Matt:Yeah. Don't but, oh but like not as often as we could you're right.
Jo:No, I hear you. That's why I wanted the robo vacuum. But anyway, then I'm very excited about that. It has mapped the house, it's doing its thing, yeah, so that's cool. And then Matt absolutely shocked, the Shoes off me. I was really, really surprised and got me an iPad.
Matt:Yeah, you've been talking about one-to-one I have for a long time. Honestly, that's like 50% of it was just like. I think if we get her an iPad she'll be really motivated to To work this next year. Yeah, I kick things off strong.
Jo:It was Like. That's well above what we usually spend on holiday gifts, though so I was very surprised it was.
Matt:It was more that it was. It was partially a gift, partially like something you wanted for work, yeah, so anyway, I'm very excited about it.
Jo:I've been playing with it a lot. I'm learning about all the apps that. Yeah, come on it.
Matt:I think the last time either one of us had iPads was the early teens yeah, they weren't as expensive then, though. No no.
Jo:Like, I mean, they were still an investment, although relatively, they probably were iPads now Cost like what a laptop cost.
Matt:Yeah, they do yeah. It's not the biggest fanciest one, but no it's not, I don't need.
Jo:I don't need that, though. No, a lot of people have been saying that about my Kindle, because since, the more I've what, what, hey, yeah, I'm not the biggest fanciest, for sure.
Matt:Your Kindle's not the biggest fanciest.
Jo:Why was that so funny?
Matt:Just, you have a vintage Kindle.
Jo:I I love my Kindle and Lots of people have asked me why I've stuck with an old model, and it's because it works fine.
Matt:Honestly, aren't the new ones bigger?
Jo:They make one just slightly bigger than this.
Matt:I also wonder if there's maybe like a convenient size? I Like mine, fits perfectly in my purse because like you don't need bigger print, like you're not an older person that needs like a lot of screen real estate, so I think the portable size is nice for you.
Jo:Yeah, but it holds its battery. It has plenty of memory on it it.
Matt:It's great it does book stuff.
Jo:It doesn't run slowly, so I don't know what the purpose of like. I feel like my Kindle has held up yeah that does great and I feel like I don't know. When you're shopping on Amazon, it's not always the expectation that you could hold on to something that long.
Matt:Yeah, that's true, it's not necessarily changing technologies.
Jo:Yeah but it's still updates.
Matt:Yeah, thankfully books aren't super advanced technology, so Producing books on a screen is is pretty manageable, so anyway.
Jo:I was gonna say my highs from the holidays were probably my gifts, because I was really surprised. I didn't make a list this year and the things I got I thought were so Absolutely spot-on for things that I really wanted and things that I probably wasn't going to purchase for myself, and I think that makes for the best gifts. Yeah is when you can be surprised and it be things that you're not gonna splurge on for yourself.
Matt:Yeah again, but I was thinking of yours as like a business expense.
Jo:Oh, okay, thank you. Yeah, well, I was like we can well.
Matt:just you'll use it for work and I think, especially going into the new year, it's a good time to be really motivated to work on things.
Jo:Yeah, I think it's a great. Yeah, I don't disagree.
Matt:It felt like a good choice, even if it was a little bit much. Yeah, yeah, no, christmas was.
Jo:What did I get?
Matt:What did I get for my?
Jo:I was going to say my low, and then you can give me high hand lows, if you want. Sure, yeah, if that's okay, I was going to say my lows was that I had to cancel Jo Learns to host.
Matt:Oh yeah.
Jo:That was the biggest bummer.
Jo:Because of everything that happened, we were no longer hosting anybody and I had a whole week and a half of content like kind of planned and prepared and then, when nobody was coming, I know lots of people probably would have just gone through with doing all of the hosting things and then just not hosted. Yeah, but that's probably where I fall short as a content creator. Because the moment that I was no longer actually hosting, I dipped. Yeah, I was like, well, there's no reason to do this because it's not true to what's going on in my life. Sure.
Matt:Which was fair. Again, we were also just trying to figure out plans, because it was like a week before the holiday that we really had to shift plans. So it was like, oh well, we shouldn't be getting ready for our house. We have to go help get your parents house. Like, take everybody there, take the kids. That's always an adventure.
Jo:So it is, that's true, but what?
Matt:were your highs and lows. Highs and lows Highs for Christmas was the kids. The kids getting gifts was really fun this year because she's just now like she's two and a half. She's really understanding presents a little bit better, Like at one, they enjoy it, but it doesn't totally sink in. I feel like they're just kind of there and they're like cool Boxes with paper. Yeah, Cool Boxes, cool paper, cool gift. It's all kind of on the same level and conceptually it's not doesn't make a lot of sense. But Christmas with her was really cool because she was kind of like understanding Santa, she was kind of understanding Christmas. I think it's going to be really fun next year.
Jo:Yeah, I agree.
Matt:I think she'll be really really into it and really into the tradition side of things, and so that was actually a good like warning to those like okay, now is the time where we really should be taking it serious.
Jo:Well, I feel like it started to make more sense to you because you kind of grew up in a family that didn't do a lot traditionally or like cultivating any kind of like magic or experiences for you.
Matt:No, no, no. Yeah, we, we did a little gift exchange but there wasn't a lot to Christmas Right or really like pageantry yeah. I feel like general weren't big, which is what it is, did you?
Jo:guys have anything that you really like. Celebrated big and did traditionally.
Matt:I think giving was our biggest holiday, for sure. We just got family together, did a big meal but that was the closest to I think like a traditional.
Jo:Okay, but with Thanksgiving, was there anything about it that you like really looked forward to in your parents and family, really like you know?
Matt:no, I don't like just the food, just a big meal. But like the big meal happened and there was things that we ate and left says like a northern food and we would always try and have that and so. But no, like this is the thing we do on this day and we make this thing or do this thing. It wasn't. It wasn't like that. It was just a meal and being together, but after seeing the holidays with kids.
Jo:Do you have more of a like? I'm curious your thoughts on it, cause I feel like I really push. I'm like I want to do these crafts on these days every year and I want to like I, yeah, really want to cultivate some of that.
Matt:And I've never been anti that, it just never, like I was like okay, cool, like we can do that. That doesn't doesn't bother me, it doesn't like light me up either. So seeing them this year was like oh, okay, cool, I kind of understand what we're talking about now and it's much more motivating to be like okay, it will be really fun and it will like make a difference to them.
Matt:So, I'm just not a very magical guy, I guess, so doing magic for myself wasn't making a lot of sense, but getting to see the kids so excited was was really fun. And so, yeah, low light, I just yeah, having to shift everything up with the family. That was a little chaotic and everybody knows I thrive in chaos and unpredictability.
Jo:So Matt prefers no schedule ever. He likes to just fly by the seat of his pants.
Matt:I kind of prefer no schedule, but I prefer it to be completely on my terms. So that's not as manageable in real life. That only works by yourself.
Jo:Full service retired.
Matt:Not really Like. I even love the routine of a job, but yeah, this was not routine, it was far from routine, so had me off balance.
Jo:Yeah.
Matt:Also your Christmas gift didn't show up at Christmas.
Jo:Oh my, okay, I know what you did there, though, because I thought it was really clever. So my parents, when I graduated high school, my my graduation gift and was a huge deal was they got me an iPad. It was like a Gen two iPad, yeah one of their.
Jo:It was engraved on the back with a lyric of the song that they, like, had decided was. My dad picked graduation songs for each of me and my sisters. My sister Ashley's was I hope you dance, ashley. Or Shelby's was uh, it's a. It's a pop punk song. Uh oh, this is going to kill me.
Matt:I really Teenagers by my chemical romance.
Jo:No, that's not right, but I want to get it right. Anyway, mine was by Rascal Flats, so there was a Rascal Flats lyric on the back of the iPad and I use that all through college to take notes and do all kinds of things with. And Matt had pulled it out of storage and wrapped it because my new iPad didn't come in time, and so he wrapped my old iPad and sticky note on it and was like don't worry, new one coming soon.
Matt:Yes, yeah, I was like, hey, this will be a new iPad, but here is your old iPad that I pulled out of the office because I've been cleaning out the office so you had something to unwrap. That was the biggest thing is, especially since we did like Christmas at your parents place and then brought the kids back home, for I was like I really need something for it. Unwrap, yeah.
Jo:So this is really killing me that I can't think of this song. Okay, we got there Shelby's Shelby's was good riddance time of your life by Green Day. Perfect, and anyway, those will. Each of us had those songs. And then what's weird is I'm pretty sure there's no way in hell that it shall be the wedding. I hope you dance to that with dad, because I dance like dad. We let dad pick the your first dance.
Jo:Yeah, like father daughter dance song. And he picked the rascal flat song from my graduation for mine and he picked I hope you dance for Ashley but there's no way. I just, I just don't see, I don't see it. I bet Shelby picked a different song.
Matt:Maybe yeah.
Jo:Because I can't fathom them being like something unpredictable. But in the end is right. I hope you have the time. You know, what Actually, now that we're singing it? I could totally see that happening. Maybe, yeah, it's weird, my parents listened to modern music.
Matt:Yeah, for the most part.
Jo:Like in my childhood stuff like so many of my friends are like well, I like 60s and 70s music because that's what I grew up on. I'm like I've never heard a 60s or 70s song. Yeah, like my parents listened to like top 100 hits what's popular now yeah, 60s or 70s is pretty old. But not if we were born in the 90s. That's like listening to 90s music and 2000s music with Gardner Kind of 60s and 70s it's exactly the same.
Matt:Yeah, but that's old for her.
Jo:I'm not saying it's not old for her. I'm saying that she's two and a half.
Matt:Like if they're listening to oldies when they're growing up, right?
Jo:But I played music from the 90s and 2000s around her all the time she's going to grow up around some of that music. My parents played nada Nada.
Matt:They were the hits of today.
Jo:Train in vain.
Matt:Yep.
Jo:And radio. No video killed the radio star.
Matt:Okay.
Jo:Those are the only two older songs that I knew, okay.
Matt:Yeah, yeah, I heard more older songs.
Jo:I know Older country, at least I. Just I don't have that in my arsenal.
Matt:Yeah, that's okay, are you sure? Well, now, as we get older, you know older songs, because you know 90s and 2000s, because I'm getting older, yeah, so I okay. Well, the older we get, the older our music gets.
Jo:You're right. I'm finally becoming an expert just by aging.
Matt:Yeah, but that wraps our holiday up, right yeah.
Jo:I guess, Christmas.
Matt:How was New Year's?
Jo:So much fun. We did it big right. Yeah, we went to go visit friends and it was really nice yeah, just chill. Yeah.
Matt:Us and four kids.
Jo:Us and all the cheering.
Matt:Yep, it was great Cheering.
Jo:Cheering, Uh what.
Matt:Just makes me think of Ice Cube.
Jo:It's exactly what I was thinking of too. What is that called Child support? Yeah, child support.
Matt:Yeah, it's not appropriate. No, not at all, it's just a little bit of a surprise but that's we could.
Jo:Yeah, nothing but my children.
Matt:One shot, they disappeared yeah.
Jo:So If you ever really I don't know where our heads are today, you guys, I feel like we're falling out of practice podcasting yeah, we noticed. Well, I thought that we were going to jump to the New Year and be really fresh and like, ready to go, but our childcare situation that's the hardest part of parenting is figuring out all of that.
Matt:Yeah, and because we have someone from college that helps watch our kids. She's not back from break yet, and so it does feel like New Year's has been delayed, like New Year's Day was delayed two weeks-ish.
Jo:Well, and yeah, we're trying to get stuff to. I don't know We've been.
Matt:Like we can't launch into work when we're also like doing the whole full-time parent deal.
Jo:Yeah.
Matt:At least not together. Like somebody can be on, somebody can be working.
Jo:Right, right, right, which is what we've been doing. Yeah, we haven't gotten to do our goal planning like we'd hoped. No, we haven't gotten to tackle recording and all kinds of I don't know. Anyway, it sounds like we're complaining. I'm not complaining, it's a tough life.
Matt:guys, I really would like you to pity us a little bit. Just feel bad for us. Send us some love, because we need it really, really, really, really, really, really badly. We're in a hard way. No, we're actually doing great, but we have gotten a little behind on, like where we wanted to be with work. We wanted to get really far ahead and now we're just like on track.
Jo:Yeah, okay, greg's reads of the week Greg Greg.
Matt:Greg's reads of the month really.
Jo:Greg, greg, oh, I didn't, I didn't save from like an entire.
Matt:Oh, no, I'm just saying like he's been sending articles, oh okay, well, I only have two. Two Do you have more? Oh my goodness, surely there's more.
Jo:I'm probably in the wrong text message.
Matt:You have to be, because I feel like we're getting about two at least every other day.
Jo:Okay, so one a day.
Matt:Three every three days, if you will.
Jo:I like that. Sometimes we get seven a week. Can I go ahead and start with mine?
Matt:Sure.
Jo:Okay, I spent 20 years studying foods a hundred year old people eat, and this is the world's number one healthiest breakfast.
Matt:Number one healthiest breakfast. Yeah, what is it? Why do you?
Jo:want.
Matt:Is it bacon? Is it a pound of bacon?
Jo:Yes, I found him.
Matt:I found him.
Jo:No, it's tortillas.
Matt:Tortillas.
Jo:Yeah, tender bean potato and onion stew.
Matt:Oh, it's, a list.
Jo:Yeah, no.
Matt:Yeah, it is Potato stew for breakfast. I don't know about that.
Jo:I know I kind of feel the same way.
Matt:That bothers me conceptually.
Jo:But the headline itself is like a one and a half out of five. For me it's not a ton of anxiety. Oh, if you don't know what Grace reads the week. We read the headlines, the articles my dad sends, and then we rate them on a scale of one to five of how much anxiety the headline gives us.
Matt:Because we don't read a lot of news but we get forwarded a lot.
Jo:Because middle-aged people be sending news articles.
Matt:Maybe reading news Are we?
Jo:middle-aged Not yet right, or are we?
Matt:No, we're young, we're children.
Jo:Okay, when does middle-aged start 60.? Okay, cool, great. So it's not middle-aged people, it's the young-ins. Are sending us these articles. The youths, the youths.
Matt:Yeah, all right, here it is. It's a couple of weeks old now. Smishing is the latest way scammers are trying to get your info. Here's how to protect your I'm assuming self, but it's from BuzzFeed.
Jo:Oh, zero out of no negative 10 out of five.
Matt:You don't trust smishing from BuzzFeed.
Jo:It's not that I don't think that it might be based in something real. It's just like that's not where I'm going for my scam protection. No.
Matt:It's the hottest new list to call on scams.
Jo:Okay, tell me more.
Matt:No, oh, it's a combination of SMS and phishing. Oh, I got one of those today it's just text messages like hey.
Jo:I got one today that came and it was like your USPS package blah, blah, blah blah.
Matt:Oh, I get those all the time.
Jo:I don't.
Matt:Yeah.
Jo:I was very confused.
Matt:They're like click on this sketchy link that has nothing to do with USPS and give me all your credit card information and I'll give you your package.
Jo:Yeah, I'm like I haven't ordered anything.
Matt:Tell us where you live in your social security number and we will get you your package immediately. Yeah, no. Anyway, watch out for smishing guys SMS phishing.
Jo:All right, the gluten free flour created by chefs at the French laundry.
Matt:Zero yeah.
Jo:That doesn't give me any anxiety. It kind of excites me Like tell me more.
Matt:I'm realizing now. I didn't rate the last two articles on how much anxiety they gave me, but smishing not so much. Maybe a one. Then what was the other one?
Jo:The 20 years studying foods.
Matt:Yeah, none.
Jo:Okay, I like the low anxiety day. I like that. That's probably why we're all over the place.
Matt:Uh-oh, here's one. The one thing that child therapists say harms kids' happiness, the M I'm going to assume that's most.
Jo:Oh, like a three out of five.
Matt:Yeah.
Jo:I think it's good information to have. I appreciate him including us in the loop. What is it?
Matt:I didn't read it, but it definitely. Yeah, it's a three to four for me.
Jo:Oh my gosh, you guys, it's live Did you hear the beep? This is straight from the group text news. The goose lays more golden eggs every year. Warren Buffett explains oh no, warren Buffett explains why the concept of capitalism doesn't work for young people today. And then he said good read, two smart moves.
Matt:Wow, I mean, I love golden geese, I love how capitalism doesn't work for young people. I don't know. A three out of five? It's confusing.
Jo:Yeah.
Matt:What are you learning?
Jo:I'm learning that more Americans are getting creative outside of their nine to five jobs in order to make ends meet, like taking on side hustles for some extra cash.
Matt:Yeah, it's great. You can't just have one job now.
Jo:Yeah.
Matt:It's important to have multiple jobs.
Jo:He doesn't believe somebody who's willing to work 40 hours a week and has a couple kids should need to work a second job in order to support their family. Sure.
Matt:I hear you. Yeah, no, that sounds great.
Jo:Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't seem no advice, it's just like people are doing this.
Matt:Yeah, pretty much Good article. Pretty much Good article guys.
Jo:We could do some more extensive reading, but I'm not going to read it live. I'm going to give that like a three out of five off the headlight though.
Matt:Yeah, three to four for me.
Jo:Yeah, I get that.
Matt:Yeah, oh, here we go.
Jo:Okay, one more, last one.
Matt:These are the financial milestones you should actually hit by age 30.
Jo:Oh no, oh no.
Matt:A six. Yeah, like an 18 out of five, seeing as we already are 30.
Jo:This makes me scream Greg, Greg, yeah, because like what am I going to do?
Matt:Yeah.
Jo:I have what five months it says, or do I need to do it by the time I hit 30?
Matt:It says by age 30.
Jo:Oh man, I already did that.
Matt:He did say I like the message financial milestones don't have to be specific numbers.
Jo:You know, and he probably hears the thing, when my dad sends things like that always, he has never sent one that's like a gotcha if you didn't do it. No, they're always like if you actually go read them, they're always like, oh look, you're doing such a great job. Yeah, you did it, and I know that's why you sent that. So it's probably encouraging, not stressful, but it's still like an 18 out of five for me.
Matt:Yeah, this is pretty manageable. It's like have insurance, oh that's good. It literally says everyone's money situation is different, stay proactive. It's pretty moderate article. It's not like you should have the headline, though.
Jo:The headline is like the headline has my heart going.
Matt:Guess what you screwed up. Yeah, but in the article it's basically like just do your best. Do you have a word of the week?
Jo:Word of the week Word of the week. Word of the week. You take a word, you get it out the dictionary, then you tell me what it means.
Matt:Well, I didn't, so I looked up word of the day. Are you familiar with the word ferret?
Jo:I am familiar, ah, okay.
Matt:Is it?
Jo:That would be a noun yeah.
Matt:Oh, that was funny. That made me laugh, got it. Here's an article, here's a word of the day Aqua culture.
Jo:Oh, I mean, I'm familiar with the word aqua and I'm familiar with the word culture. Is it culture about water?
Matt:Is it raising aquatic animals or cultivating aquatic plants, especially for food?
Jo:Oh, okay, I like that.
Matt:I guess like horticulture.
Jo:Or like agriculture yeah yeah, got it yeah, I like that.
Matt:I mean, that's not one that I knew, so we're both learning Aquaculture. And we both learned what a ferret is Aquaculture and that's cool.
Jo:Yeah, ferret seems so cool. We should have experienced. We laughed so much. But that's the word of the day.
Matt:Oh, it's used as a verb. Oh To ferret means to find something such as information. You gotta ferret it out. See, I don't know that I have heard it used in that context but it makes me laugh more now that it. I guess that is a usage thing that is interesting.
Jo:That's why I asked you if it was a noun, and it's not.
Matt:Yeah, you did ask and I did lie to you, because I didn't actually open up the page, I just laughed at the article.
Jo:Okay, tell me the definition one more time, ferret.
Matt:To find something such as information by carefully searching. It is usually followed by the word out. So she's good at ferreting out the answers. You can ferret out information.
Jo:I don't think I'm going to be using that one. I don't like that in any regard whatsoever.
Matt:Well, okay, it's about being a small slinky mammal. That's part of what it says in here. I didn't do that myself. Don't look at me like that. I thought you were just on the fly. You thought I was just using the word slinky. Yeah, which was interesting the use of slinky, you gave me a look like I was the creepiest person you'd ever met.
Jo:Oh no, it wasn't creepy, it was just shocking, it wasn't creepy.
Matt:It just scared me and shocked me.
Jo:I know it didn't scare me, but you're not the most descriptive man.
Matt:A man of few words.
Jo:Few words, many feelings.
Matt:Big words, but very few.
Jo:True, okay, we have some voicemails.
Matt:Yeah, you guys asked us about stuff.
Jo:Voicemail number one, which is great.
Matt:Keep doing that Voicemail number one.
Speaker 4:Hey guys, I have not been a listener of the podcast very long, but I have been a follower of you, jo, since your Jordan days actually. I'm from the same area that you grew up in and I have kind of followed you throughout the years, and I have a very kind of weird question that I'll try to make sure is condensed. But I still live in the same area and I know that you really love the Northwest Arkansas culture and you just are thriving there. You guys are really open and honest about that.
Speaker 4:My husband and I are considering a move down there and, even though it's not very far away from Southern Missouri, we know that it's probably a little bit quite quite a bit different, honestly, and so I wanted to know, if this isn't too personal of a question, how does living in Northwest Arkansas differ from where you grew up? What do you like better about it? And, if that's too specific maybe, just what is it about Northwest Arkansas that you love so much? What's keeping you there? We are. I feel like it's just a super evangelical area where we live and we're kind of looking for more diversity, more inclusion. Yeah, we're just looking for something a little different and I'm curious if you feel like you've maybe found that where you're.
Jo:I feel complicated. Well, one, okay before I get into answering the question. Wow, jordan Daze you. Wow Been there for a minute. Yeah, you've been following since before anybody was following along.
Matt:For our broad listeners everywhere. So that's cool. Thank you, it's a little niche, but we'll go with it.
Jo:Yeah, I changed, not changed my name, but I started going by Jo when I left for college. So in high school I was Jordan Still am, technically.
Matt:Jordan.
Jo:But anyway, I don't know that Northwest Arkansas is going to give you a super If you're comparing it to places in the world that are really diverse and rich with varieties of culture and things like that. I don't know that I would put Northwest Arkansas anywhere in the contendership for.
Matt:No, it's not going to be like culture shock.
Jo:moving here from no, but I do think it would be culture shock moving from Southern Missouri. I disagree, but I don't think it's going to give you. I think the culture is very different. I don't think the culture is extensively diverse there.
Matt:Does that make sense?
Jo:Yeah, I do think that it's changing.
Speaker 3:And that varies community by community because there's several around here.
Jo:But all in all, you're still living in Arkansas. And what I will say is I feel like people here are, from my personal experience being somebody that is white and straight and in every way shape or form Coming- from two people who lack diversity in themselves. My experience has been very positive. All of that to be said, obviously I don't walk the experiences of people who are in Any other experience?
Jo:Yeah, well, any, pretty much any minority at all, sure. And so all that to say my experience with the community and what I love so much about it is, from my viewpoint, people have been very welcoming. They're very excited to support other people in their community. They really go out of their way to be inclusive and kind to people who are new, rather than being doors closed and trying to keep things exclusive. I think that there is a lot of work to advocate for change and I think there is a lot of work being done to listen and I don't see that so many places, like I feel, like so many places I go, people just aren't willing to listen and my experience here has been that of a lot of people listening and being willing to talk and share ideas and I just think it's a really special corner where really cool things are being cultivated and created, and I've loved it.
Jo:Springfield, you know, I only lived in Springfield as a child, so I grew up in Springfield, missouri. I left there when I was I just turned 18 and I moved down to Northwest Arkansas for college and I stayed here. So my entire adult existence has been in Arkansas and so I don't feel I don't want to put a ton of stock into what I have to say about Springfield because it's a very reflective, it's dated and it's reflective of the mind of a child and I just never felt like I fit in in Springfield and I constantly felt on the outside of what felt very clickish, like Springfield's big, but within it it just felt like there were all of these established groups of people and I'm sure that there is some of that here in Northwest Arkansas or really anywhere that you're going to live but I never got to the point of feeling comfortable existing outside of that in Springfield.
Matt:Yeah, I think there's smaller communities here. Like, as an aggregate it's a large area, but each community is smaller and very much cares about their, their space and their area, and so I think there's a lot of people that really care about it and want to improve and grow. Yeah, so, it's cool.
Jo:And I just think you're always like. I hear a lot of people my age that I grew up with, that live all over the country, that like they don't talk to any of their neighbors. They're like we don't know who lives next to us, like we bought our house. We've lived here for two years. We've waved at the neighbor maybe once, and that's never been my experience here. We've lived in three different houses here together and we've made good friends with neighbors at every single home we've lived in, and you know what I mean.
Matt:Like I just think people, some of that is just you, some of you, you just like to know your neighbors. But I think it is an area where that's very doable.
Jo:Do you think that? See, I don't think that all.
Matt:No, I don't think that's the same in all areas. Never have to embrace it no for sure.
Jo:Like, yes, it's me that says hi and I ask questions and I want to get to know people.
Matt:I was just trying to gas you up and say that you're very proactive in meeting your neighbors and pouring into your neighbors, which is good. Yeah, I think it will improve most people's well-being if they do that.
Jo:I agree.
Matt:And show a little outreach.
Jo:But I think that a lot of people are not receptive to it.
Matt:For sure.
Jo:And that has not been my experience here. I feel like people are very receptive.
Matt:Yeah, I think it's a community that cares about the community and is very open.
Jo:Yeah. So, that's what I like about it. I don't Do you have any thoughts? You grew up in NYXA.
Matt:Yeah, yeah, I like it here. I don't know. Again, I don't want to speak for areas we haven't lived, so I think we've nailed it. And for anyone who doesn't live within, you know the hundred miles that we're talking about. Thanks for bearing with us.
Speaker 3:Hey, matt and Jo, Just wanted to call in, leave a quick, funny little question. I've left a few voicemails before and always love hearing your guys' opinion on things. So are you guys pickle people, or is one of you a pickle person and not the other? Feel like it's a very hot topic for some people and just wanted to see what your guys' opinions were.
Matt:We talked about the gap in my pickle career.
Jo:I don't know probably.
Matt:I feel like it's come up before but I'm a pickle girl. You're a big pickle girl, but.
Jo:I prefer a dill pickle. I don't want a bread and butter pickle.
Matt:I don't really know the difference.
Jo:And it's weird to me that you don't like pickles because you like vinegar.
Matt:Yes, well, that's where I had to do a little soul searching and why I took a large career gap in my pickle eating experience. I think prior to you making me eat a pickle when I was like 24, I hadn't eaten one since I was about 12. And I think just conceptually, I didn't like them. Turns out I don't dislike pickles. They're pretty good. I think I just have still a fear of them that's been ingrained over time. But every time I eat them I'm like oh they're not bad.
Jo:Who was instilling the fear of pickles in you?
Matt:Me, me, I didn't. Here's the deal. I was a very picky eater. I for a long time didn't eat Wendy's hamburgers because they were square, which has absolutely nothing to do with how they taste Pretty good, dispised mustard, wouldn't eat a hamburger that had pickles on it. Once cried and I was like 10 or 11 years old that my tacos from Taco Bell had lettuce on them.
Matt:So I was Did you eat your mom's A friend was in the car with me. It wasn't like I was just crying by myself with my mom. A friend of mine was over. We had gotten tacos, I had requested no lettuce and then they accidentally had put lettuce on them, and driving home I found this out and was devastated. And your mom's and my mom was like, okay, well, if you were on a desert island and all you had was tacos with lettuce on them would you do, or would you rather starve?
Matt:And I said, I would rather starve, being a hair dramatic, and so just as a little context for what an adventurous eater I especially was, You've really come out of your shell in the last five to six years.
Matt:I have gotten to the point where I'm like I'm an adult man and I should, at the very least, try things. I don't have to like them. I don't have to go back and get more, but eat it, find out if you don't like it, try and remain open-minded. And yeah, so several years ago you had me eat a pickle because you're like you like vinegar. I don't understand this and I was like it's not bad. I don't like cucumbers, yeah, and you love pickles, yeah. So I don't mind cucumbers.
Jo:But I will eat. A cute the thing about me when I say I don't like things. Here's the thing I will still eat. I don't think there's anything I don't like enough that I won't eat it.
Matt:I feel like if I thought about it for a while I could find something, but it's very uncommon.
Jo:Yeah.
Matt:You'll eat almost anything, especially if it's prepared for you. You're like I hate this, I'm going to eat it.
Jo:Yeah, if somebody was like I prepared cucumber salad, I'd be like great, I love cucumber salad.
Matt:You're like I love not making food, so cucumber salad it is.
Jo:But I'm not a big cucumber gal. I had a lot of fresh things that people consider very fresh foods like watermelon. I don't really again I'll eat it, but it's not something I reach for. I don't reach for cucumbers, I don't reach for, like iceberg lettuce.
Matt:That makes me laugh. As a concept, You're like things that people consider fresh, gross.
Jo:It's not that I think they're gross.
Matt:And I know it's not the freshness of like you, just I think it's water Like, not that you dislike water.
Jo:You like water, but it's like water in food.
Matt:Dirty water. To me You're like it's ruining the water.
Jo:Yeah, I don't know, you want the water without the green. Yeah.
Matt:She likes a dry.
Jo:I love celery yeah.
Matt:I don't know what to do and I like kale, I don't know my taste buds. Yeah, you like kale, like one of more bitter meaty greens yeah, my taste buds are broken, they're weird. Oh Anyway, you like pickles. I have grown to not to accept them, and it's not that I dislike the taste, I just I'm still afraid.
Jo:Okay, we have one more voicemail.
Speaker 3:Hey, matt and Jo, Just wanted to leave another voicemail. I've left a couple before, but I guess questions for both of you, but probably mainly Jo. I feel like it's just so draining and just so hard being in your 20s and being a girl and just finding all of these things. It's like I know someday I want to be a mom, but I don't want to be a mom anytime soon, but I just feel very unfulfilled. I don't know where I want to be even in the next six months. I feel like I have nothing planned out and they say that it goes better sometimes when you don't plan things, but I'm very OCD in particular and just navigating your 20s in general is slightly miserable. And just maybe a few tips or tricks on how you got through it and things that help you feel joy or bring you happiness, little things that maybe got you through each day. Thank you so much. I appreciate you guys and I love listening to you.
Jo:I think around that age was when I was talking to my older sister, and I've talked about this before. When I was talking to my older sister, I was single and having a conversation about like am I going to be single forever? And talking about being lonely and my 20s being hard and this and that. And my sister's nine years older than me and she was in a season where she was kind of starting to have kids and, like you know, do that whole song and dance and she said to me there is going to be a time, 10 years in the future, where you're sitting with your newborn maybe, or your husband and you're busy and you're trying to get all these things done and you're going to think, man, I wish I would have more greatly appreciated that night on my own where I could pick whatever I wanted on Netflix and just grabbed a tub of ice cream out of the freezer and not thought about anything else.
Jo:But I was so worried about the me I am now that I didn't enjoy who I was then and that really resonated with me in my mid 20s and I started living my entire life like that. And I still do live my life like that when I find myself dysregulated and when I find myself stressed and when I find myself just feeling overwhelmed or not having things planned enough, I really try and get into the mindset of who I want future me to be, and I do this with parenting a lot too. My kids can be absolutely, you know, screaming at me or upset or sick or whatever it is. That's really hard in that moment. I think about all the people who are older, who I've talked to, and how they would give anything to go back and experience just one minute of their babies being babies again. And it doesn't.
Matt:It doesn't make the moment. Not hard, not hard Right.
Jo:It's not like, oh, I'm going to enjoy and appreciate it and this is good. But if I can try and get into that mindset of future me and realize how much time is fleeting and kind of reframe, it's easier to accept and enjoy and embrace where I am. And I think that's the best advice I can give to people in their 20s is start embracing where you are. And, yes, you can prepare things for future you, but also think about what you want future you to think about current you too. Does that make sense?
Matt:I think, if you've been listening, it made sense. Okay, I think on its own it's a tough sentence, but yes, I'm with you. You've taught me a lot in that aspect, though. I mean, I've had to do that but something especially with parenting where there's a lot of things that don't come naturally to me that I've worked on that perspective, like one bedtime's taking an hour and a half and we're on our sixth book. Maybe we've read the same book three times and you're like I just want this to be done, I just want you to go to sleep. I've tried to really be like you're not going to get to do this forever. You're going to miss the days where she wanted you to read another book, and so just appreciate that and it helps. It really does help in the moment. So that makes me want to cry. I'm working on not crying right now.
Matt:It's fine, but yeah, I have thoughts on the 20s thing too, but if you're going to keep, going, go ahead yeah.
Matt:Yeah, I remember those days and they suck, but I think there's a few things that you can do.
Matt:And if you have friends that you're close with, work on pouring into those relationships, work on communicating how you're feeling, even if it sucks, see if they're feeling the same way. And if you can build, sometimes just talking about it with people that know you can help, and understanding that other people are going through these things too, especially if they're peers that are in that same stage of life, there's a good chance that they're experiencing those things, even if it's not what they're outwardly showing. So I remember when we broke up. That's when I decided I really had to invest in the relationships I had with my friends and my family, and so that was really good to do. And so, if you can, especially now that it's the new year, it's a great time to pick up new habits like that, also working on yourself whether I mean that can be just health and fitness kind of deal, like giving yourself something where you can constructively grow and have things that you start to appreciate about yourself over time. Learning a new skill, learning a new hobby, meditating, yoga, whatever.
Jo:It's such a time to learn to love, to be with you.
Matt:Yeah and you have to like. You have to do that because you're going to be with you forever. But if that's not something that comes naturally to you, it takes time. And even if it is something that you like, I always thought I liked being alone. And then I realized like, oh, okay, well, I still need time with other people.
Matt:And that's when I realized I had to invest in the people around me so that they knew one, if I was going through a hard time, they could show up for me. And two, I expressed that if they were going through a hard time, sometimes supporting somebody else feels good. Just to be like, hey, I don't have my stuff figured out, but I can help you. And so one working on yourself, being like, hey, I'm going to make myself better in this way, and then that gives you a little bit of positive momentum in feeling good about yourself, feeling good about life, is you're like Nope, I don't have a plan for six months from now, but I can run a six minute mile, like whatever it is for you like, just build something there, have something to work for.
Jo:It doesn't have to be a six minute mile.
Matt:No, I'm just saying like, even if it's trivial, even it has nothing to do with the direction of your life, giving yourself somewhere to pour that energy as an outlet, I think can really help.
Jo:And so it doesn't have to be like. I really recommend having one thing that you're doing that's for your health and wellness.
Jo:You know whether, like some kind of moving your body that interests you. Doesn't matter what it is it can be going on walks, it can be gardening, it can be yoga, it can be like there are activities that move your body that are not necessarily fitness related. Definitely, find one of those. But I was also going to say, like, like you can start reading, you can learn about house plants. You can become an expert on something, not because you want to make a career out of it, but become somebody who knows a lot about something just because you enjoy it and know that you may not know where you're going six months from now, but, like for me, I know that I'm taking my love of plants with me the rest of my life and I think there's something really reassuring about that.
Matt:Yeah, I think some and to a degree I think it's an escape, but make it a productive escape or an escape that you enjoy and has some, some redeeming value. It's not the scrolling hole on your phone.
Jo:Yeah, do anything you can to stay away from that. Yeah, I think that taking in content can be really good. I mean obviously we create content online for a living.
Matt:So please don't stop watching us. I don't like totally, but.
Jo:But if it's having a negative impact on you do like. I want to be the first person to say that is. My goal is to have people who follow me because they find it inspiring and it brings good things to their life. If it doesn't get out of here, not even for me.
Matt:Not for you, yeah.
Jo:It's because I want you to get online and it to be a inspiring place, not a place you go to escape.
Matt:Yeah, if you're watching our life and it makes you feel bad, stop.
Jo:Please yeah, because that's not the intention, that's not the goal and I don't want that for you. Yeah.
Matt:Even if it's a minuscule negative impact for us, make a positive impact for yourself. 100%, yeah, 100%. But no, I think, giving yourself something, even something small like I know you said you don't have a plan for six months have just like I'm going to try and make this good habit happen three times this week and like giving yourself a little bit of positivity. Also, if it's a mental health issue, work on exploring, maybe working on that, talking to somebody, so, and if you're already doing that, good for you.
Jo:But we're back, baby. We're back, so we'll be back next week. Please leave us voice mails. Follow us on Spotify, youtube, apple podcasts anywhere that you listen, leave us a review. We love y'all and we'll talk soon.
Matt:Yeah, bye, sergey Brothers.