Oversharing with the Overbys

Home Office Hijinks and Hypothetical Questions

January 24, 2024 Jo Johnson Overby & Matt Overby Season 1 Episode 63
Oversharing with the Overbys
Home Office Hijinks and Hypothetical Questions
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Who doesn't want to choose between a lifetime as Siri or Jar Jar Binks? And for those who've ever wished they could detect every lie or have the superpower of truth evasion, we're breaking down the moral quandaries of such hypotheticals.  We go back and forth through a series of "Would You Rather" questions so enjoy the back and forth of our differing opinions!

But life isn't all fun, games, and bizarre body proportions. We get down to the nitty-gritty of disagreeing with loved ones while under the same roof, and how we navigate the minefields of family dynamics with grace—and occasionally, a bit of grit. Stick around for Greg's Reads of the Week as we confront our weekly anxieties head-on, from crime sprees to cutting-edge medical breakthroughs, and learn a new British term that might just become your new favorite way to vent during Word of the Week. So come for the laughs, stay for the wisdom, and maybe, just maybe, you'll leave with a few pearls of overshared insight.

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Jo:

Welcome to Oversharing with Overbys. I'm Joe.

Matt:

And I'm Matt.

Jo:

And each week you can tune in to hear us respond to your voicemails, go in-depth on our lives as content creators and hopefully leave you feeling even better than we found you.

Matt:

With that being said, let's get to oversharing.

Jo:

You know, guys, today Matt is feeling substantially better than when we recorded from last week 100% less hungover than our last episode, which is big. I think that's the only hungover episode you've ever had.

Matt:

Like really yeah. Yeah, in a year and a half, probably truly hungover, the only one. Well, there's probably been other times where I was hungover. Well, not really, there's not been very many times I was about to say. I'm just saying we probably wouldn't have recorded.

Jo:

To me this is interesting because I thought I was celebrating you and giving you a compliment, kind of I refuse, and you're like no, I'm actually a piece of garbage.

Matt:

Yeah, no, it's okay. It's okay. That's because I refuse to take a compliment.

Jo:

Well and. I don't know that it was necessarily like a sharp compliment, but I just we've been doing the podcast for a year and a half. I don't. I've never really I haven't been hungover as an adult, really.

Matt:

Yeah, we've been doing it for a year and a half. And you say that as though. Like it's impressive, I haven't been hungover on it.

Jo:

I know, I guess we have kids.

Matt:

Yeah, some people, some people have matured past hangovers you think, Well, I mean some people, yeah, some people don't drink.

Jo:

So Do you think more people don't drink than not? No, I don't know. That's a tough question.

Matt:

We should do a survey. Survey says I don't know if that's a very accurate.

Jo:

I never know I may have talked about this before, but I never know what to like. Uh, qualify myself as when people ask me if I drink, because the answer is really, for all intensive purposes that people would be asking me if I drink, the answer is no, yeah, it's a.

Matt:

It's a rarely situation.

Jo:

And uh, but I feel bad saying no, I don't, because it would feel like a lie yeah.

Matt:

Cause every now and again. Well, you're not against it, really, it just it's a net negative.

Jo:

When you say you don't do something, that doesn't mean you're against it.

Matt:

Yeah, but you're not like you, like you're, not you're. Do you go skiing? No, I don't.

Jo:

I'm not anti-skeying.

Matt:

Yes, just it seems to be usually with drinking. It's like at all Like, do you drink at all? Right, it's almost more of the context.

Jo:

I know so.

Matt:

So it's not that you don't drink at all, but you don't drink Often.

Jo:

It's just kind of a hard question for me to answer. I don't know.

Matt:

You're not an active drinker by any means. No, I'm barely an active drinker.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

Really purely socially.

Jo:

And we don't get out much.

Matt:

No, no, socially limited so.

Jo:

Socially inept Two kids two kids.

Matt:

That's our excuse.

Jo:

I don't think that's a very good excuse. Uh, what's what's our updates? What's our updates for the week? Anything big, Not really.

Matt:

We had a ton of snow. Yeah, the snow is still around. It's going away, though.

Jo:

Yeah, child care's back. Yeah, that's really the biggest change, Honestly that is the biggest change in our lives.

Matt:

Like it's it's working time.

Jo:

It's so good.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

I feel so privileged that we have the ability to pay for child care like in our homes and have our kids so close. But, holy cannoli, five weeks of no child care was uh, it was a lot.

Matt:

It was a lot, it was a lot, it was a lot, and we're not again. We're not the best, uh. Child carers.

Jo:

Anybody that says they're a work from home parent with a child under the age of five. I don't believe you.

Matt:

Like doing yeah, doing both at the same time. Well, I believe you, I shouldn't say that.

Jo:

No, absolutely I believe that they're doing it, but they have to just feel bad all the time. Yeah, because they have to feel like they're not doing the parenting enough and they have to feel like they're not doing the job enough. You would think, because the last five weeks, I have just felt at all times like I'm a bad parent and a bad employee.

Matt:

Yeah, Both and you're self employed. So that's the boss is tough.

Jo:

Yeah, I feel like a bad employee a lot, but you know I do too.

Matt:

But yeah, same, same as that.

Jo:

When you worked uh court like your your gig, your nine to five did you feel? Like a bad employee ever.

Matt:

No, I mean maybe not never, but kicking butt. No, I was. I was very much. I delivered what was expected to be delivered from me.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

For the most again, for the most part. On time you could talk to my managers, but I was. I was pretty consistently reviewed.

Jo:

Well, should we start doing employee reviews.

Matt:

Employee reviews for each like. Are we doing each other or ourselves?

Jo:

Do you think that would be helpful?

Matt:

I was, we could do both.

Jo:

I think I would actually love that.

Matt:

Like a self review.

Jo:

Yeah, self review and we review each other, and then we meet once a month, once a quarter.

Matt:

That's spoken like that's spoken like somebody who hasn't done a lot of employee reviews, but uh sure how many employee reviews. Have you been a part of?

Jo:

None. Well, no, that's not true. That's not true. I, when I worked in marketing, I had, you did a review. Yeah, I did two, two reviews. Wow, she's a professional yeah.

Matt:

Two annual reviews. Yeah, they're not usually a fun process. Not not even if like going bad or poorly, just usually there's. You have to take time away from work to write your reviews and then your manager writes your review and then you have to sit down.

Jo:

But don't you feel like, because you know your review is coming. That holds you accountable. Do you think reviews are useless?

Matt:

No, no not at all, but I don't know that I had. I don't know that my review is what held me accountable usually. What?

Jo:

held you accountable, like if you're only being held accountable once a year.

Matt:

That's not a very good system.

Jo:

Okay, what held you accountable?

Matt:

Like the regular managing of your manager, just the regular communicated expectations and you know.

Jo:

You heard it here. First, the managing of his manager.

Matt:

That's the job as a manager, yeah.

Jo:

Okay.

Matt:

You're there to.

Jo:

So you don't want to do quarterly reviews. Again, we have a much more streamlined To me it sounded like fun and I was excited about it and you immediately just said, no, you're wrong.

Matt:

You know I'm a little cautious of fun.

Jo:

And then you tried to make me feel small by dismissing my work experience yeah and telling me that I am a wee little unemployed.

Matt:

I like, I like, instead of small pathetic.

Jo:

Oh, okay, yeah, A pathetic little yeah. Uh, if I'm, it's mouth appropriate, okay.

Matt:

I think I want it to be straight up derogatory. Okay, but just yeah.

Jo:

You know what. You told me exactly what you meant Go for it. I did? You meant no, I know but I want to hear the whole the whole thing.

Matt:

Yeah, your work was pathetic and it didn't count and it should never count. Perfect, you should just stop talking about it.

Jo:

I feel really motivated now.

Matt:

Good.

Jo:

Thank you, that's your review. Oh, thanks for reading. You've never had a real job.

Matt:

You never will have a real job. I mean, I don't hate this.

Jo:

I don't hate the second half of that sentence.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

I don't know. I feel like you can make ends meet and never do that. I've been having a lot of moments lately where I've considered should I apply for a nine to five?

Matt:

I can barely imagine you in a nine to five, really Like a true nine to five.

Jo:

The pros of a nine to five just sound really nice.

Matt:

Yeah, recently. Yeah, you're, you're craving stability and you're craving someone else.

Jo:

Uh, I think, running the show for a little bit. I'm craving someone else being in charge.

Matt:

Yeah yeah, you're not loving leadership at the moment. I've been craving, I don't know, just routine sitting back, someone telling you what to do.

Jo:

I don't know if it's sitting back. I like I miss working on a team, Like I miss working with people and you are my team and you're not like the teamiest team.

Matt:

Yeah, I'm not the even in a team, I'm a, very much like let's everybody get their part done and bring it together and not talk to each other until everybody's done. Talk to each other for what you need, but like not just sitting hanging and talk while we do our stuff.

Jo:

But it's not even like discourse. It's not like unrelated discourse. You don't even want to talk about things related to the job.

Matt:

I will and like we need, if we need questions answered most like necessary to you. No, If it's necessary for somebody else, I'll talk to them. If somebody has a question they need answered, I will answer questions. I will help. I will help people accomplish goals. I'm a team player. You haven't seen me in a true team environment. Right Just on my team you know my team doesn't qualify.

Matt:

Two man team is uncomfortable. Okay, that's funny, yeah, so what's your plan for when the snow ends? What's the first thing you're going to do when there's no snow? Are you excited for the snow to go away?

Jo:

The snow is not really.

Matt:

Affecting you? No, no, I feel like I haven't been outside.

Jo:

I think that's you problem. Oh well, I haven't walked down to get the mail, though, because I don't want to put my snow boots on.

Matt:

Yeah, I mean for several days the mail didn't come.

Jo:

Really.

Matt:

Pretty sure.

Jo:

I didn't know that that happened. I think it's been bad enough that certain areas the roads were pretty nasty the last couple of days, but today they're much more normal.

Matt:

Yeah, we've had enough melting that. We're all good down there.

Jo:

At the end of this week it's supposed to be warm.

Matt:

Warm what's warm.

Jo:

Like in the 50s oh wow. That's going to be nice.

Matt:

Crispy. Crispy usually means cold, but you're using it the other way. That's fun.

Jo:

Oh well, I'm not very bright.

Matt:

But you're a hard worker.

Jo:

I was thinking like the sunshine.

Matt:

The sunshine Crispy. It's a crispy sunshine.

Jo:

Yeah, why is cold?

Matt:

I guess crisp yeah I get that. Yeah, it's making sense now.

Jo:

No, it's not Because, like things, get crispy when they get hot.

Matt:

Yeah, things get crispy when they freeze.

Jo:

Yeah, so why can't I use it for both?

Matt:

I guess you can, but you're going to confuse a lot of people. You can use words how you want to use them, but they may not be understood. That's I mean. I remember the first time my mom told me that Really.

Jo:

Yeah, I do.

Matt:

Oh.

Jo:

I've been good at the English language and sometimes I would use words in a way that I thought that they meant what I meant, but they didn't In the way you liked, it's not about preference. Like it's not like I liked it. It's just I really keep going back to the same thing I said over and over again. I just think that my I don't. I have some language processing issue. Oh, I really do.

Matt:

Well, I'm not trying to call you out, I just.

Jo:

I wasn't.

Matt:

Again, I'm welcoming you to use the words however you want.

Jo:

I feel personally offended I, but I just remember the first time, like I remember where I was I. We were talking about satellites and for some reason I called it a pilot. I don't know why, but I like, for some reason, I was dead set that that's what it was called.

Matt:

Well, maybe you thought it was like a plane or a spaceship.

Jo:

A satellite.

Matt:

Yeah, maybe you thought like there was somebody in there driving it.

Jo:

I think we're thinking of different kinds of satellites. I'm talking about, like, a satellite dish.

Matt:

Oh, on the house.

Jo:

Got it.

Matt:

I was thinking in the sky I was like oh no, no, that's not that wild. Yeah, no, I was talking about like satellites, that you know, yeah, a satellite dish, yeah, like a house or whatever.

Jo:

And for some reason I have no idea where I got what. I got and my mom got really irritated with me.

Matt:

Oh.

Jo:

Yeah, I was irritated, but that's Particularly memorable. We were driving down Blackman Road in Springfield, missouri. Wow.

Matt:

You really do.

Jo:

This is yeah, I remember it core memory, and I think I was like 11 or 12 and she was like yeah, you have to use the words Assigned the things in order for people to understand what you're talking about see, I'm actually going the other way.

Matt:

I think you can use whatever you want, but but you can't expect people to understand you know that's unreasonable, but I Remember being frustrated.

Jo:

I remember being embarrassed. Yeah, I had the right. That's happened to me a lot.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah and I.

Jo:

I live in a house where it is ruthless. Ruth like this week, I my whole life and I'm probably just wrong like I probably heard it wrong once and Then just never recovered. But I've always thought it was a handle of bananas and as Matt just responded, that's exactly how he responded, followed by making sure I knew over and over again how stupid okay, okay, Okay.

Matt:

I think we're slightly overstating how embarrassed you felt and how embarrassed I made you feel. I Think that gets conflated.

Jo:

I didn't say you made me feel embarrassed.

Matt:

You made, I made you feel stupid.

Jo:

No, you told me, I was told you, I was.

Matt:

Actually I was gonna say that has almost never happened.

Jo:

No, I felt embarrassed and stupid and so I internalized everything you said and it made me feel like like my own stuff, not you. Yes, made me feel like you were telling me I was stupid because you decided to take the moment to really like land some jokes. How many, how many jokes did I do? About three? Yeah, we were on the phone with your parents and your mom kept trying to make me feel better and you just kept. And if it would have been like your brother that did it or yeah, I'm somebody else it would have been really funny.

Jo:

Oh whoa because it was me. I think everybody just felt that. Okay, okay, gotcha like what you were saying was making the jokes.

Matt:

If my brother was making the jokes it would have been funny. I was like whoa.

Jo:

Oh, no, no, no no. Ouch like if it would have been your brother who like mess had said heard bananas? Because like we know, braden's brilliant. Like we know, also smart okay but but your brother is like a different level of like, it's a different kind of thing. Like it's not very word smart, it's not that we feel bad for me in the thought process that I'm stupid. It's that we feel bad because we know that I'm like Very embarrassed and like we're aware of just strengths and weaknesses in the language department.

Jo:

Yeah, and we understand Joe sensitive, whereas I wouldn't consider your brother Sensitive. If anything, if your brother called it a handle of bananas, he'd probably come with facts as to why he called it that like originally.

Matt:

Yeah they were handles of bananas.

Jo:

And right, it's actually the Correct term right for which it's not, no, it's a hand of the hand of bananas if people don't know that.

Matt:

Yeah probably should have clarified that a little earlier.

Jo:

But probably yeah.

Matt:

Word of the week hand but not the yeah, just like ferret.

Jo:

Yeah, there's different, different things it can mean can there be a hand of other things, or is it only bananas?

Matt:

I only know of a hand of bananas. Okay but yeah, there could be handles of other things. That's usually how a what is it a leader? Leader of alcohol is.

Jo:

I can't why? No, there's a handle yeah but is it a handle just because it's a thing with a?

Matt:

handle. Well, a lot of times they have a handle. I don't think they have to, though. Could just be a big bottle.

Jo:

Okay, but maybe that's where I got confused.

Matt:

The handle of alcohol.

Jo:

Yeah, and a hand of bananas. Yeah, I don't know. Well, they go hand-in-hand do they know they go hand-in-handle?

Matt:

Yeah, there, it is hand-in-handle the title of the episode.

Jo:

Well, on that note, okay, today I'm kind of excited because instead of hitting emails and all of that for Our Topic, we're doing, would you rather questions? All right, and I'm kind of stoked about it. So they're 25 of them, so we have to be kind of speedy. Okay, not like crazy, they don't two, three word answers. I know what Matt's not to do after I said that we're gonna be done in like three minutes.

Matt:

Yes, no exactly.

Jo:

Would you rather be able to detect any lie you hear or get away with any lie you tell?

Matt:

Mmm, probably get away with any lie you tell, because just knowing that it's a lie, if you can't prove it's a lie, is that as useful.

Jo:

Yeah, I think I would go with detect any lie. You hear oh? Together we're a powerhouse not because it's the better choice. I think that get away with any lie you tell is a better choice, but I'm not a good liar, not in the sense of this could be a good thing. People don't believe me, but like I'm not a good liar in the sense of I think that it would just hurt me.

Matt:

Yes, it would probably be much more detrimental to you as a person.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

Maybe I don't know, maybe you just get so callous to it. That doesn't seem like a good thing. No turn into a bad person. No, so I might be right on this one.

Jo:

Yeah, I'm gonna go with detect any lie I hear.

Matt:

That? Would that mean that has a lot of applications?

Jo:

I'm sure both are exhausting.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah, it could be, sometimes you need those lies.

Jo:

That's not the kind of power I want you know, no, no, you want to fly. I want to fly. Yeah, would you rather get with your boss to get promoted or give up the promotion?

Matt:

Get with your boss. I'd get with my boss. I'm alright with that.

Jo:

I, I've never. I've never had a boss that I would get with. I guess I would give up the promotion.

Matt:

Yeah, I mean I, in all real circumstances, I would probably give up the promotion.

Jo:

I don't.

Matt:

It's an uncomfortable question. Yeah, I don't like that one. Would you rather, is just a, a moral quandary. That's a circumstance a lot of people are in sometimes. So I don't, I don't like that one.

Jo:

Yeah, we may not end up doing 25, because some of these are really good and some of them are not.

Matt:

Okay okay.

Jo:

Would you rather have too many friends or too few?

Matt:

Too many, too few, too few like you. That means you don't have enough.

Jo:

I'm not struggling with that to me.

Matt:

That's like I understand that too many friends is an issue and like you want close friends and so having too many Not Like too many surface friends is not ideal. But the question on its face is too many friends or too few. And Having too many means you have to like juggle your time or whatever and I end up just trying to do all of it, and Too few means you're lonely and sad.

Jo:

I Mean, I don't know that I agree, because it's too few, isn't none, and I think it gives you the opportunity to focus on yourself and Learn to manage your time and solidify, like who you are. Okay, I think people are necessary and I think relationships are necessary, but I think when you have too many people like that you're trying to Keep up with, it really has a negative impact, like you don't get to grow into yourself at all.

Matt:

Yeah, okay. So, look at us. Just taking the opposite sides, I'm we're weighing everything out.

Jo:

That doesn't surprise me. I will go opposite a lot, Okay. Would you rather have no taste buds or be colorblind?

Matt:

No taste buds, for sure no taste buds.

Jo:

Yeah, I think no taste buds for me.

Matt:

Yeah, like no taste buds. I Don't know, I'm not that big of a food person.

Jo:

Anyway, I am relationship with food is not great but I Can't imagine like being colorblind makes me sad.

Matt:

Really I mean most people, I think, with colorblindness, deal with it just fine.

Jo:

Wait, can I? He wouldn't know the difference, I guess but I but it's becoming, I'm imagining that it's starting now.

Matt:

Now we would lose color right and you lose flavor. Yeah, I suppose. And being not born colorblind, I'm sure I'm guessing that happens. I don't know.

Jo:

Yeah, I'm actually surprised to hear you say no taste buds.

Matt:

Why is that?

Jo:

Because I feel like colorblind doesn't change that much of your experiences. Yeah, I guess if you like TV.

Matt:

Yeah, I mean again a lot of it. It's a lot of times it's like you can't distinguish between colors, like which way they go and stuff, but it's not that they look all exactly the same, it's not like a blindness. Blindness, I think it's still go. Taste buds, though. Taste buds have led me astray too many times.

Jo:

Yeah, that's what I would go. Would you rather never hear music again or lose the ability to read?

Matt:

Oh, I mean, oh the man, the ability to read.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

Yeah, Like I think I need it Generally yeah. Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to keep the ability to read. There's just too much in life that if I can't read it's gonna cause problems.

Jo:

Yeah, I. I think that question is supposed to be like.

Matt:

For pleasure.

Jo:

Yeah, because can you imagine?

Matt:

You, all of a sudden, are in a foreign land and it's you know the language you speak, but you can't read it.

Jo:

Yeah, that'd be really hard yeah.

Matt:

I guess, hire somebody to read everything, I guess never hear music again. But yeah, we could. We could treat the questions. It's probably intended, which is, for pleasure, in which case I would keep music.

Jo:

Yeah, I think I'm kind of I'd go there too. Could I listen to books for pleasure, if I?

Matt:

loophole.

Jo:

I know poll maybe Probably not, but maybe oh.

Matt:

Okay, you're going audio books only. Fine, we'll allow it. That's a good loophole. Well, and expertly lawyer.

Jo:

I was gonna when you were saying the ability, I was like well, that's fine, I'll just listen to audio books. But then when you pointed out that I won't be able to like you can't read nutrition facts. Facts or literally anything signs yeah my speed.

Matt:

Like yeah, how much can't you read like I know. Yeah, I think numbers. Surely you can still maintain numbers, right? I don't know like you lose numbers. All of a sudden you're just yeah, that would be severe, severe issue.

Jo:

Would you rather be the richest person in the world or the smartest?

Matt:

Richest. For sure, for sure.

Jo:

I don't want to be the smartest person in the world. Oh, that's a problem horrible, that's exhausting like, I prefer to be naive and a little bit stupid.

Matt:

I mean it's two of the smartest people already in the world.

Jo:

Oh, shut up, yeah right.

Matt:

No, but like knowing more things isn't isn't great. The only the only way I could see it being good is like if you used that to cure cancer and Do lots of things that would be cool. Sure, I can see it that way.

Jo:

I'd rather be the richest and use my money to do those same thing to fund the smartest person in the world. Yeah, I'd rather fund them than be them.

Matt:

Yeah, absolutely. You get to have fun and you fund somebody who is gonna cure cancer. Being richest is definitely the right answer in every way I Knowing more things is honestly just a great way to be less if you're listening to this and you're going smartest.

Jo:

Can you please tell me why? Because?

Matt:

yeah, shoot us an email voicemail. Tell us why smartest is the best.

Jo:

Because I can't like, can't?

Matt:

there's nothing there for me because if you're gonna tell me you can be the smartest so you can make a bunch of money, do you can just shortcut that, go straight to the money right and have less Awareness of all the problems in the world?

Jo:

That's what I want. Yeah, yeah.

Matt:

Naive, underrated guys. Yeah people who are naive typically happier.

Jo:

I think that's a fat. Yeah, okay, would you rather sound like Jar Jar Binks for the rest of your life, or Siri?

Matt:

Siri. Siri's got a great voice. I.

Jo:

Can't even think of how Jar Jar Binks sounds right now like me so oh, that's right. He just sounded more like Mickey Mouse than you're like me. Sam who's ah? Yeah, Okay yeah, I guess Siri.

Matt:

Yeah, I mean, I think Siri's voice is gonna get better and better. Jar Jar Binks sounds unhinged. Okay, wait, you're gonna go to a conference and speak Siri, like Siri, you get to like.

Jo:

Advance with Siri as her voice continues.

Matt:

That's probably not allowed, but even now, siri speaks just fine.

Jo:

I would pick like male Australian, siri, and okay, yeah, that would be you, oh.

Matt:

For me. I was like that's a weird choice for you. But I mean, maybe I don't know, that's what you want to do, I support.

Jo:

I would definitely pick, not American accent, siri that's a fun twist. Yeah, because then at least people like living in the United States, at least people would just think they're like it's your second language, and so that's why it's a little broken up. Yeah, yeah.

Matt:

Would you have to pronounce all the words like Siri pronounces them, like when she says names or when they read Instagram handles to you? Because that that kills me every time.

Jo:

Tell me more.

Matt:

Uh, so if you post Instagram and then I have, for some reason, siri reading me announcements or my notifications, so it'd be like Joe Johnson Riverbury, like that's not only George Art Banks. That's a little George Art Banks, but like, do you have to read, like Siri, like everything you do?

Jo:

Yeah, I think so.

Matt:

Yeah, you pronounce everything like not correctly, but how it's spelled.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

Still would rather go Siri, but it's food for thought.

Jo:

Okay, um, okay. Would you rather age from the neck up or the neck down only?

Matt:

The neck up or the neck down, so you rather use your body or have a great looking face on.

Jo:

I'd rather age only from the neck up yeah.

Matt:

That's I mean, I think it's not about appearance no for the function of your body.

Jo:

Pause. Yeah, but would it if you went neck up? Does that mean your brain's not aging?

Matt:

So then, oh, good question, Good question you stay sharp Again. Staying sharp is overrated.

Jo:

Yeah, I agree, I want my body to stay like Rocking.

Matt:

Strong. It's not about yeah.

Jo:

I just want to have like wrinkles and then just have like. That would be a hot old person the hottest bod of any 90 year old on the block.

Matt:

Yeah Well, you can. You can, you know, work to? There's plastic surgery for your face, but there's not plastic surgery to make your body function again. I don't want plastic surgery I don't either, but I'm just saying if that's like a need for you.

Jo:

I watched a TikTok talking about this week about how, like this generation has had like more plastic surgery, like plastic surgery has become more and more normalized and so the younger, like the small children looking up to it, are not going to see as many naturally aging people, and how that's going to impact like our beauty standards and stuff. Yeah, and it kind of made me like triple down that I don't want to do anything Cause I'm like I'm just going to be the person that looks old. Everybody else is going to be looking young and I'm going to look old and that's okay.

Matt:

Everyone else is going to age from the neck down, you're going to age from the neck up, yeah, I'll just hit the gym really hard yeah. Yeah.

Jo:

Okay. Would you rather have a million dollars now, or $5,000 a week for the rest of your life?

Matt:

I mean, I think the answer is a million dollars now.

Jo:

Yeah, totally.

Matt:

That's a compound interest question right there.

Jo:

No, this is like the most obvious answer in all the land.

Matt:

Yeah, but I mean what's? $5,000 a week total out to?

Jo:

$250,000. Yeah $250,000 a year, and so it takes you four years to get to a million.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah. But if you pocket it, yeah, maybe there's a tipping point here with.

Jo:

I, there's no way.

Matt:

You don't think there's a, there's a crossover, a million dollars now, like we were too young. Yeah, we are too young.

Jo:

Like it doesn't make sense to do it any other way. Yeah, because it only takes you four years to get to that million dollars. It's like if you invest that million dollars right now at 10% return you're looking at what I'm like, trying to do it in my head Maybe $2 million at the end of four years?

Matt:

No, but it's like one one five, one six Okay. So one, six, let's say Maybe not quite that, but yeah.

Jo:

But okay, so let's say it's one. Okay, actually, let's do it like this what do you have at the end of eight?

Matt:

years. Let's do it like this let's put it in calculator.

Jo:

Okay, but every, let's say it doubles in eight, seven years, whatever. So seven years, $2 million. But in seven years you've made $1.75 off your $5,000 a week.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

So you're coming for that so quick of like being ahead in two years, like you can't keep up.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

So that's my definitely $5,000 a week.

Matt:

No, it's a compound interest question. And then, yeah, unless you only have eight years to live. Yeah again, let's go compound interest here.

Jo:

That's so many dollars.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah.

Jo:

Would you rather see the world but live in poverty, or stay in one place and live rich?

Matt:

See the world live in poverty. Stay in one place, be rich.

Jo:

Hmm, that's hard. I don't want to live in poverty. Yeah, like I think I would feel differently if it said like Modestly. Yeah, but the idea of living in poverty means you're like to me, means your needs aren't being met. Yeah. So, even if I get to see the world. I'm not going to get to enjoy it, because I'm going to be under the stressors of my needs, not being met.

Matt:

Especially in a capitalist society, that would be an issue.

Jo:

Right.

Matt:

Being rich in a capitalist society affords you a lot of privileges that poverty does not.

Jo:

I'd, in theory, rather see the world than stay in one place. Yes, yeah, but I think realistically, that's a really good one.

Matt:

Yeah, but like if you're going to have a family, if you're going to yeah, I think you got to go one spot.

Jo:

Uh, would you rather become a creative person or a technical person?

Matt:

Ooh, Creative, I think creative person.

Jo:

I was going to go technical.

Matt:

Hmm, see, that's, that's our uh.

Jo:

I feel like you are creative.

Matt:

Sure.

Jo:

But you'd rather like really lean in on it, yeah.

Matt:

Yeah, I'm not. I'm not well in touch with my creativity at the moment. Yeah, and I'd like to get that back.

Jo:

Ooh Fun goal. I like that. What are you doing? Are you doing anything actively to?

Matt:

Oh, I want to start drawing again. Okay, I think I should do that.

Jo:

I think that's awesome. Are you going to draw like with pen and paper?

Matt:

Uh, probably, I don't know. I drawn your iPad the other day and that was fun.

Jo:

I saw that.

Matt:

It was a sad picture.

Jo:

Did you just like? Was that just out of your head?

Matt:

It was just out of my head. Oh, it's a sad picture in there. Sometimes it was sad.

Jo:

Oh, okay, I didn't ask further that day. You did it, I should have.

Matt:

No, it was fine. Sometimes I mean it's a good outlet sometimes yeah.

Jo:

Should we get you, like, a cool drawing pad or something? I don't know? No, I don't know.

Matt:

I can also just draw on paper Like it's very, very doable.

Jo:

Right, yeah, that's cool.

Matt:

When you mean drawing pad, you mean like a paper pad? Yeah, I guess I was thinking like a drawing tablet for a computer. Again, this is technical.

Jo:

The technical side there. No, I didn't mean a oh yeah, Like a, like literally Like a waycom drawing tablet for the computer.

Matt:

Then I'm like I don't, if we're going to do that, I'll just get another I pad, I guess.

Jo:

No, I really meant just a pad of paper, and then you're like I can draw on paper, it's okay. I was like, oh okay, Well, that's what I meant.

Matt:

but I realized that once you made a face of me like yeah.

Jo:

I think I can draw on printer paper and I'm like, okay, that's fine yeah.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. I would like to be back in practice before I get like really serious with materials and stuff.

Jo:

Are you going to like do a cartoon strip or something I can't?

Matt:

wait. I love the idea that that's what my drawing becomes.

Jo:

this cartoon Think about how fun that would be if every morning the kids came out for breakfast and you had drawn them a new cartoon.

Matt:

I had animated a that's some real doing Like that's a lot.

Jo:

I know, but that's some cool dad shit.

Matt:

I mean that would be, but are they having breakfast at 1230?

Jo:

Cause I think it's going to take some time. You would do it the evening before, okay.

Matt:

Okay, every night I'm doing a new cartoon.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

That's a lot of creativity.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

That's.

Jo:

You can do it once Like. You do it like.

Matt:

Monday. I might as well put that in a book Like you could like do that to start the week?

Jo:

Sure, okay. So, like in September, you know that they were doing back to school, so you did a cartoon, all of I don't know.

Matt:

Okay, I'm full of all kinds of ideas, maybe more like a character artist, that like, oh, that's what you were thinking. Well, I'm just saying coming up with an original cartoon every single day.

Jo:

What do you mean? Original.

Matt:

Should I be ripping off cartoons?

Jo:

No, I thought like I thought you were developing characters and then like telling a story with those same characters every week.

Matt:

That'd be an original cartoon.

Jo:

Okay.

Matt:

That like, that's like a Kelvin Hobbes.

Jo:

Right.

Matt:

Am, I, just am I. I'm just going to write, okay.

Jo:

Got it, you don't have to do anything. Matt, I'm not suggesting this is a task. You're freaking me out. I'm getting worried. Have to do See this is the problem.

Matt:

I go too far in my plans and then I'm like well, that's exhausting, I can't do that. And then I don't do anything.

Jo:

You don't have to do any of that. I was just thinking of ways that you could incorporate. Just saying you wanted to hold.

Matt:

My brain freaks out. This is how it happens. It's like oh my goodness, I have to do a new cartoon every single day.

Jo:

You don't? No, I don't, I definitely don't.

Matt:

But this is how it works for me.

Jo:

And the problem is my brain works the opposite way and the more.

Matt:

you tell me you get excited by all the things you can do.

Jo:

Yeah, and so, yeah, it's not good.

Matt:

Yeah, so we're a perfect pair.

Jo:

I cannot, for the life of me, excite Matt for anything, because I don't think you're excitable.

Matt:

Generally, I am not an excitable person. I'm not prone to excitement, which sounds sad.

Jo:

I'm very excitable yeah you're very excitable.

Matt:

And it gives you a lot of anxiety Sometimes. Again, it's good for me, it's good to have that exposure, it's good to have that momentum Exposure.

Jo:

Like I'm like this, like I'm something you're allergic to.

Matt:

I just take a little dose of it every day and I get better and better at dealing with excitement. No, no, um, no, that's. I think we, we moderate each other well.

Jo:

That's what you? Okay, that's interesting.

Matt:

Um, I try not to like again, I don't moderate is like not that everything needs moderation. We're just two sides of a coin there.

Jo:

Yeah, would you rather have legs as long as your fingers or have fingers as long as your legs? So you want no legs or crazy hands.

Matt:

I'm going no legs.

Jo:

Yeah, I just think the only answer.

Matt:

Oh, oh come on. Like how are you even carrying those around?

Jo:

Well, I think that, uh, let's assume they support themselves.

Matt:

Just fine, they're functionally strong the way that you could like throw yourself around.

Jo:

If you like, do you have feet on them?

Matt:

No, I know they're fingers. They don't have feet on them.

Jo:

Oh, it's not legs as fingers, it's just the size of legs Fingers as long as your legs. Oh my gosh, they're just as long as creepy.

Matt:

Yeah, it's very scary. Yeah, I'm just trying to think it out and make sure I'm not making a. But I think you're right. I think it's better to just have teeny, tiny legs.

Jo:

I hate the idea, I'm just a little long.

Matt:

Then you find the smartest person to build you some robot legs that your teeny, tiny legs can control.

Jo:

If my fingers are that long, can I just have them surgically like?

Matt:

Oh, you chop them down? No, I think for the purpose of the question. They grow back and they have to be that way. They regenerate, yeah.

Jo:

Oh, I was going to like do they have lots of knuckles? Like, how does that work?

Matt:

I think it's just like the same number of knuckles, but like like Crazy 18 inches between them.

Jo:

Oh, I hate that.

Matt:

It does seem like something out of like a horror movie.

Jo:

I have nightmares about that one. Yeah, For sure Again.

Matt:

I think you build robot legs to go on your teeny, tiny legs, that your robot, like your little legs, control.

Jo:

I agree, yeah, would you rather wake up in the morning looking like a giraffe or a kangaroo? Kangaroo, yeah, same Buff yeah.

Matt:

Kangaroos are swole.

Jo:

They are swole. That's your whole goal, just being swole. Yeah, Jacked Uh drafts Like my neck being that long really gives me some stress.

Matt:

I mean, we saw you talk about the fingers. Yeah, I don't. Think the next any better for you.

Jo:

Yeah, I don't that's not for me, okay. Would you rather walk in on your parents making out or have them walking, walking on you having sex? I'd rather walk into my parents making out, for sure.

Matt:

That's a disproportionate response.

Jo:

I'd also. I'd rather walk in on my parents period rather than have somebody walking on me. Yeah Like. Every time I'd rather be the one, yeah Like every time every time yeah.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah, yeah it again disproportionate.

Jo:

Yeah, that's like not even comparable to me. My parents making out doesn't really grow to be out. Not that I want to be around, but like yeah, I don't know whatever.

Matt:

Yeah, I mean, I don't want to be there, but you can also just leave.

Jo:

Right.

Matt:

I never talk about it.

Jo:

Right.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

I agree. Okay, would you rather have a foot long nose or a foot long tongue nose?

Matt:

Tongue stays in your mouth.

Jo:

You think you can fit a foot long tongue in your mouth? I think you'd figure it out I absolutely do not think you're putting that in your mouth. It would just always hang out. You'd have to like like, keep it moist.

Matt:

You look like goofy.

Jo:

Yeah, all the time.

Matt:

There's no way that's better than your nose.

Jo:

Think about it. There's no, but no, you could not fit that in your mouth.

Matt:

You roll it up.

Jo:

No.

Matt:

You roll it up and you breathe through your nose. It's that easy.

Jo:

Absolutely yeah, it's not that hard.

Matt:

Yeah, it's tongue, why nose?

Jo:

Because the long tongue makes me already. I already feel like I'm choking Just thinking about it, Do you not feel like you're choking?

Matt:

No, I would be like Venom from Spider-Man.

Jo:

Oh yeah, no, that's a no for me. The nose is bad too, Don't get me wrong, they're both bad You're going to break that thing so many times. I've never You're going to walk into.

Matt:

You haven't, but if it's a foot long you turn around. You just break that thing on a door frame. I get used to it I adjust you might, but I bet you break it a bunch of times before you get there, can you?

Jo:

imagine like how many? Records I'm going to break.

Matt:

Like as a baby. Is it a foot long?

Jo:

No, because your nose is always growing.

Matt:

Okay, why does that change it?

Jo:

Because, like, do you think that our baby's noses are as big as they're going to get?

Matt:

No, but are they starting in a foot?

Jo:

I don't think, because then by the time you're like 60, it's like three feet Again this is a little bit hypothetical here.

Matt:

A little bit, yeah, slightly hypothetical. Okay, so you think it's proportionate to what a foot long nose is as a baby. Yeah, which is still very long.

Jo:

Yes.

Matt:

I mean, we're talking about four inches.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

That's a no no. Okay, you're never going to wear helmet. What?

Jo:

about your baby who's choking on their tongue?

Matt:

I'm not choking on it, it's hanging out.

Jo:

Don't get crazy dog, then you have to like keep it, keep something on it, because I feel like it would just like dry out. I have so many questions.

Matt:

You're worried about it drying out. Yes, one thing a foot long nose might dry out too. It's coming in. Where are the nostrils? Are the nostrils a foot long?

Jo:

I don't know.

Matt:

What do you think?

Jo:

I don't know, I haven't.

Matt:

Or are they just two little holes way out in the end?

Jo:

Or are they back here and it's just?

Matt:

cartilage. Yeah, I think that makes the most sense. I think your nostrils are still right here and you just have a cartilage appendage that's a foot long off the front.

Jo:

Oh, that freaks me out a little bit.

Matt:

It's kind of like a bird.

Jo:

It just got weirder for me. I don't like that at all.

Matt:

It's been weird the whole time.

Jo:

Yeah, but it got weirder Again. You started really making me think about it.

Matt:

Outside of Pinocchio we don't have a lot of illustrations of people with a foot long nose.

Jo:

The tongue thing really freaks me out, though you seem concerned about tongues.

Matt:

Yeah, you could split it. You could have like a snake tongue, like a huge one.

Jo:

Choking really stresses me out.

Matt:

The tongue could be a whole gimmick.

Jo:

Yeah, yeah, so could the nose.

Matt:

It's more of a freak show thing. I think yeah, you're not wrong, okay, all right, you could be like Snake man with the tongue. Okay. Which is also a freak show thing yeah, but I don't know Again. I still think you can roll it up.

Jo:

Would you rather eat a small can of dog food or six overripe bananas?

Matt:

Yeah, yeah, I don't want to eat dog food all day, every day, the canned dog food. Oh, that's the gross stuff, I'll make myself some banana bread Right here. Oh, that's a loophole right there. I think they mean you're supposed to eat the mush.

Jo:

I could do that too.

Matt:

Yeah, I'd rather do that. I mean again a can of dog food.

Jo:

Overripe bananas are good Like they're you know, as long as they're not rotten. But it doesn't say rotten, it just is overripe.

Matt:

Yeah, overripe.

Jo:

I could do that.

Matt:

But I think it means like the brown brown pink mush, I could do that. Got it.

Jo:

Over a can of dog food.

Matt:

Yes, canned dog food's nasty.

Jo:

Would you rather have a head too big for your body or a high-pitched baby voice?

Matt:

So would you rather have baby proportions or a?

Jo:

baby voice, mm-hmm, I'm going voice, I think it's got to be baby voice. Yeah, because I can not talk, but like people are going to see me, Just quiet stoic. Yeah.

Matt:

Then when you're talking I don't know baby voice that was a terrible baby voice.

Jo:

That was really bad.

Matt:

What's a baby voice?

Jo:

I don't know, can you do a baby voice? No, absolutely not.

Matt:

I can't. Yeah.

Jo:

I'm a little boy, yeah, something like that.

Matt:

Is that yeah?

Jo:

Except for I would imagine it would like project more.

Matt:

Yeah, man, I'm having a hard time projecting a baby voice.

Jo:

Would you rather bleach your hair neon green for the rest of your life or only have one eyebrow?

Matt:

No, neon green.

Jo:

Really.

Matt:

One eyebrow. That's going to look wonky. Do you think you shaved the other one?

Jo:

And neon green isn't going to be I think it becomes your look. Okay.

Matt:

I mean, you got a foot long tongue, you got neon green hair, you're pretty much a lizard person. Yeah, but you're like the front man for like a punk metal band.

Jo:

But you can only play the bass because your tongue gets in the way of singing.

Matt:

No, no, you can say why is it in the way of singing?

Jo:

I just the tongue thing's really stressing me out. How do you pronounce your T's?

Matt:

You just saying things that don't have T's.

Jo:

Like try and say something with your tongue out of your mouth.

Matt:

Yeah, see that's how you would sound, all the time, I don't know, but wouldn't your middle of your tongue be like punctuating your thing? I think you'd figure it out.

Jo:

I don't know if you would figure it out. I really don't.

Matt:

This and how you like. Yeah, you know, maybe that's a problem.

Jo:

That's why I've been going nose and you're really arguing with me.

Matt:

You remind me of the speech impediment.

Jo:

Okay, the tongue's really that one. I'm going to have nightmares about that one. The tongue's a little wild that one's going to give me nightmares Undoubtedly Okay. Would you rather brush your teeth with hot sauce or with ranch dressing?

Matt:

I think the hot sauce is going to get it cleaner.

Jo:

I hot sauce, I guess.

Matt:

But it might do more damage.

Jo:

I don't like that.

Matt:

Are we having to live with the conditions that it creates?

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

Because I think hot sauce might really like do a number on your gums.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

You might get used to it, but I think it. Which one's going to be worse for you? They're both bad. They are bad, but let's really think it out. Here I mean ranch.

Jo:

I don't like ranch dressing, that much I like it and I like it in circumstances, but I'm not like a.

Matt:

You're not a ranch. Every day, twice a day in your teeth, girl. No, got it Okay. That makes sense.

Jo:

I have to do it forever with one or the other.

Matt:

Isn't that the point?

Jo:

Probably. Oh, it made it worse. We'll check the question again. No, just said. Would you rather brush your teeth with?

Matt:

Maybe just let's say once, then I guess, I was imagining forever and I was like what are the long-term implications of using hot sauce on?

Jo:

your gums.

Matt:

It's once I lean hot sauce, hot sauce, for sure yeah.

Jo:

But if it's forever, if for no other reason.

Matt:

Then there's like little bits.

Jo:

I feel like they both really hurt your teeth in the long run.

Matt:

Yes, that's what I was trying to figure. Out is like what's doing the most damage here? Now again, that's what I was saying. I think hot sauce will get them like bacterially clean.

Jo:

Do you?

Matt:

Yeah, yeah, I think it's got vinegar and peppers and stuff that's going to make bacteria not so happy. Ranch isn't going to do any of that.

Jo:

Yeah, so I guess you go and you're going to get the little pieces from ranch in your teeth. Yeah, you're going to go. I mean I'm going to go hot sauce.

Matt:

Hot sauce for once, yeah, yeah, maybe even for long-term. That was our last one.

Jo:

I think the hardest of those was the nose versus tongue. Yes, yeah. I think, so I'm curious what everybody's feedback is going to be on that. We have Greg's Reads of the Week, though, before we start wrapping up, and do you have a word of the week?

Matt:

I'll get one.

Jo:

Okay, so Greg's Reads of the Week. Greg is my dad. My dad, gregory, loves to send us articles. He reads lots of news and he's just constantly shooting us titles letting us know what's going on in the world. And we like to rate those articles on a scale of one to five of how much anxiety the headline gives us when it comes through the text thread. So article number one this week Lincoln man allegedly commits a crime spree in a skid loader.

Matt:

In a skid loader. I mean, it doesn't give me a lot of anxiety. I'm curious, though it's a good hook.

Jo:

I'm going to say like a two out of five, because like crime spree does spike my adrenaline just ever so slightly. Okay, but not living in Lincoln does help Mitigate your fear of the crime.

Matt:

spree in Lincoln.

Jo:

Yes, overall. Yeah, I don't know about that. It did sound pretty crazy, I you know.

Matt:

Yeah, I mean, I guess it's a. It seems like a vehicle you could definitely commit a crime spree in.

Jo:

For sure. Okay, Article number two how some automakers are still pushing ahead for a hydrogen powered future.

Matt:

No anxiety. Hydrogen is a little tricky.

Jo:

Two out of five again. Maybe even I'm going to go three out of five Three out of five, because I don't know if that's good or bad. And then I get kind of panicked about not knowing what I don't know.

Matt:

Yeah, storing hydrogen is very difficult, gotcha, because it's so small that it will diffuse through most materials.

Jo:

Okay.

Matt:

Like it'll just work its way out. I think you can trap it in like.

Jo:

Does it like explode or something.

Matt:

It's also explosive yeah.

Jo:

Okay, yeah, okay. Now it's like a five out of five. Oh okay, why are we pushing for a hydrogen powered future if it explodes that easily?

Matt:

They don't pollute. I think they only create water as a byproduct.

Jo:

Okay.

Matt:

But yeah, I think the Hindenburg, I think was hydrogen the big. Do you know what that is? Nope, it's the big balloon that caught on fire Like 1910 or something.

Jo:

No, I absolutely don't know about that, really.

Matt:

No, that's shocking to me.

Jo:

Really, is it actually shocking yeah.

Matt:

It is Well, okay. Okay, I mean of all the people that not know what it is. It's not surprising that you don't know, but I feel like it's well known.

Jo:

What's it called the?

Matt:

Hindenburg.

Jo:

I don't think I've ever heard about that in my life. Oh, my goodness, was it a hot air balloon, or was it like a blimp?

Matt:

It was a zeppelin. Yeah, like a blimp.

Jo:

Okay, blimps. The whole idea of blimps really kind of stressed me out as well.

Matt:

Well, this is probably why. Because I mean, have you seen a picture of this burning blimp? I don't think I've ever seen that?

Jo:

No, were there a lot of people on board? It was in 1937.

Matt:

That was later than I thought.

Jo:

Okay.

Matt:

Were there a lot of people. I don't know if they carried. A lot of people Did everybody die 36 fatalities.

Jo:

Oh, wow, that's a lot of people.

Matt:

Okay, yeah, that's more than I thought.

Jo:

How many people were on it? 36?. Do you think it killed everybody on board?

Matt:

Well, there's a real disparity. Did it kill somebody on the ground?

Jo:

Like when it came down, that makes sense, like that's a big thing coming crashing into the ground.

Matt:

Because there's 36 total fatalities, fatalities, 35 total later 13 passengers 22 crew. Later in this Wikipedia in the accident it says total fatalities 36. Oh yeah, one ground casualty I missed. I scrolled just far enough to get to here and then it said 35 and 36.

Jo:

So it did kill everybody. On the oh no, it didn't. It says 61 crew and 31.

Matt:

36 passengers. Oh wow, 23 passengers. Two thirds of the passengers survived and two thirds of the crew.

Jo:

Wow.

Matt:

Two thirds of the people survived, wow.

Jo:

That's really crazy.

Matt:

That's shocking. I'm gonna have to do some Google on that later. If you look at pictures of it, it is like a giant fireball.

Jo:

Yeah, that sounds horrific In the air. I've never heard about that and I'm gonna go ahead and say that that Go ahead and pushes my automakers or still pushing me ahead for a hydrogen-empowered future. Anxiety to a five out of five.

Matt:

I think there's a lot more safety involved in current hydrogen vehicles, but there are concerns around how you store hydrogen and if you get a wreck, what happens.

Jo:

And that is the thing, though, about, honestly, most things is. I feel like right now, I'm being that person that freaks out because she just doesn't understand stuff. Yeah, so I'm gonna leave it to the professionals.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

Um, okay, Last article is exciting new cancer drug kinder than chemotherapy.

Matt:

Exciting new cancer drug is kinder than chemotherapy.

Jo:

Mm-hmm.

Matt:

That doesn't give me anxiety. No, I find the word kinder to be a little odd.

Jo:

Yeah, I uh.

Matt:

That's just nicer.

Jo:

I'm gonna say zero out of five on that one. One out of five. Okay, it doesn't give me any anxiety.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

I'm just like happy for him. Yeah.

Matt:

I mean everybody's happier. It's a nicer, nicer treatment.

Jo:

We like nicer cancer treatments.

Matt:

Yeah, okay.

Jo:

Word of the week. Choo choo. Word of the week.

Matt:

Well done.

Jo:

Thank you for the intro you take a word, you teach me the definition, then I never use it in real life.

Matt:

Unless it's a Kimbo.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

You're familiar with the word whinge, whinge, whinge.

Jo:

Oh, I like this one no. W-h-i-n-g-e oh, can I look at it?

Matt:

It's a verb yeah.

Jo:

Whinge Okay, Like w-h-i-n-g-e.

Matt:

W-h-i-n-g-e Whinge. W-h-i-n-g-e.

Jo:

Well, that's how you spell it. That's what? Yes, that's how it's spelled. Okay, yes.

Matt:

Hinge with a W on the front. Hinge with a W, it's a verb, especially in British English, meant to complain fretfully. Fretfully is a little bit of an odd adjective.

Jo:

She just couldn't stop whinging.

Matt:

Yeah, just complaining.

Jo:

I just whinged about it.

Matt:

It's kind of a it's like complaining, whining yeah.

Jo:

I don't hate that one, no. I just can't stop whinging about that.

Matt:

Yeah, it is much more commonly used in British English.

Jo:

I like that, but is it going to be weird if I use it? You're going to just sound like you, travel abroad. I don't think that that's true at all.

Matt:

No, I don't think it's going to roll off the tongue very smoothly.

Jo:

No, I think you're trying to set me up to sound stupid. No, do we have any?

Matt:

emails. I think we do havelet me check, we have.

Jo:

I think there was an email, email, email.

Matt:

We did a lot of them very recently, so let's All right Fighting in front of family emails. I know Joe's parents live with you part-time and that the living spaces are fairly separated. Is there ever a time you two disagree or have a small argument in front of family? I currently have my future mother-in-law and brother-in-law living with me, my fiance and our two kids. We will have small disagreements or short-tempered arguments with each other, like any couple, but so hard to navigate that with an audience. When we discuss it later we always resolve and talk it out, but I just think that, oh, his mom heard us fighting. I look like the bad person. How do you two navigate disagreements with family present Stemming from this? How would you? Oh, here We'll do this second part after we talk about that.

Jo:

Okay, so first part. I try my best not to argue in front of other people. Yeah, I think Jasey's the only one that we like openly argue in front of Really gotten into it.

Matt:

Who is my best?

Jo:

friend who I, she is so deeply like ingrained into my life and our relationship. I feel like she just she hears about everything anyway and she loves both of us so much. She's the friend that I don't you know like I'm very, I'm a very big advocate for the rule like don't speak poorly of your spouse to anybody. Yeah, and so I don't. But Jasey's like my safe, not that I'm like talking smack about you.

Matt:

I don't mean that. I don't think it's a bunch of Like. I'm not taking it that way.

Jo:

But if something happens like, she's the person I call and talk to, if you have negative feelings towards me, you'll communicate them to her Right and she'll understand. And you guys have so much in common. Yeah, usually she's like well, that's exactly what I would have done, and I'm like gosh dang it. Yeah, I mean there's a couple of times.

Matt:

We basically just made her referee in argument.

Jo:

Yeah. Not super serious, but Normally it's silly stuff, yeah, but she's probably the only person that I like purposefully Not purposefully argue, but like that I don't stop myself, like I don't actively think about it. All that to say, we haven't really argued in front of my parents much. We've had like a, but not really I feel like when my parents around I think very similar to this question, like we might resolve something later. I can definitely think of a blaringly obvious time that Matt and I were not getting along in front of your parents.

Matt:

Yes, yeah, there's a couple of those.

Jo:

Still haven't done a lot of arguments in front of yeah, I made a sassy remark, though, and Matt's mom was very not happy with me.

Matt:

Yes, yeah, and it was an elevated time for everybody.

Jo:

Everybody was elevated. I made a sassy remark. It was not.

Matt:

It wasn't from my you were worried I was going to burn the house down.

Jo:

I was worried you were going to burn the house down. I was. You were caught off guard and you weren't. It's not like Matt, it's not like I was blowing that out of proportion, like if the wind would have blown the wrong way, matt really could have burned the house down. Yeah, and so it was obviously an elevated moment, uh-huh, and you and I, like made up.

Matt:

We laughed it off, yeah, like we were. It was not a. I wasn't there for you to make the comment.

Jo:

Right, and it wasn't directly from my perspective and how our relationship dynamic is. It was not directly offensive to you, like it was not criticizing something that you're sensitive about or something that Does that make sense.

Matt:

Yeah, people have listened to this podcast. I think they're familiar with yeah and so like.

Jo:

I made a quick clip and you and I were good. Yeah, like within a few minutes.

Matt:

One, I didn't hear it, and two, I would have been like fair.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

And so I think that it's just. I'm having to get over the fear of being disliked or judged because, like I, deserve the space and the grace from people around me to be elevated at times and to be frustrated at times.

Matt:

Especially in your own home.

Jo:

Especially in my own home, especially like within my personal day-to-day living and and especially when your husband is playing with fire. But I try really hard. Like the thing for me is, if we're ever disagreeing, the biggest rule is to still be respectful of each other. Yeah, within the bounds of like expectation that we have for one another, mm-hmm, wouldn't you say, yeah, I'd agree with that.

Matt:

There's been plenty of times where it's been sidebarred till later.

Jo:

Yeah.

Matt:

So we're on the same page with you there. Now, second part of the email Stemming from this how would you set more strict boundaries with a teenage boy living in your home part-time? He lives with his dad every other week and then with his mom us. For the meantime, he will try to insert himself into our fights when we are parenting our toddler, telling them to stop crying and being a baby, or say that he will give them spankings, which I would never do. That's just how he was raised. Love following you guys have been following Joe for a long time.

Jo:

Okay, wait, is it a step sibling or a like half sibling or a full sibling? Younger Like I'm trying to understand. Who's the teenager?

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

I'm having a hard time understanding where this teenager is coming from.

Matt:

It's Let me reread this. I'm reading through it Brother in law, okay. So it's an uncle to kiddo to their toddler Got it, that makes sense.

Jo:

I think that's what I'm understanding, that's hard. I think I would have really upfront conversation about it of just like, yeah, no, we are not going to tell anybody that we're spanking anybody, and if we hear that again that we're going to spank you. No, we do a lot of boundaries, of just like we're going to remove ourselves from the space.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah. Again, you don't want to try and overstep and act as a parent in that capacity, but when it comes to your kids, you're the decider and so it's very much got to be communicated. Hey, this is the line. If the behavior is not what you expect or not what you like, and you're a witness to that, here's the thing that we do, and if that's not enough. Get somebody else to handle it. Also. It sounds like everybody's in close quarters. So, yeah, I think they're just going to have to.

Jo:

They're becoming an adult and they need to understand that there have been times in our house that family members don't understand how we parent and have done things that don't align with what we're trying to do, and we've just had really frank, very clear conversations of like yeah, we're not talking about that that way to them and here are some ways that you can talk to them and here are some solutions that you can try. And if those don't work or if you don't want to participate in those, then you can come to us, but the way you handled it is not going to work.

Matt:

Yeah, I think you just have to really lay out that you're not the parent, and just because you're here does not mean that you are responsible, or?

Jo:

That's worked well for us, but I mean it's just, there's so much nuance there.

Matt:

Yeah, that it so much depends on the demeanor of who you're dealing with and especially at that age, that can be a lot of different things. Yeah, I don't know. Good luck, good luck, good luck. One more email. Hi, friends, I don't recall if I've messaged you about this on IG or not. I messaged you often, so it could be, could not be, but I have a question. Start with some context.

Matt:

Recently, as in two weeks ago, I was let go from my first ever corporate job. This is my first job out of college, my first one where I got to sort of use my degree. I've been so fortunate that I've been had an abundance of calls and interviews about jobs I've applied for, but I wanted to know how do I go about not freaking out about losing your first ever big person slash adult job? Because the first thing that came to my mind when I got fired was that my entire career slash life was ruined and I'd be working fast food for the rest of my life, which is not beneath me, but obviously not what I had in the cards for myself. At this point I'm asking more so for others like myself who may go through this in the future, because, while it isn't ideal, it does happen. What do you think?

Jo:

It happens all the time. Yeah, I've changed the course of my job so many times and people don't remember your failures as much as they remember your successes. Like you, hold on to the things you've failed at, but other people look at what you've succeeded at, I would say, more than anything.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

I feel like people succeed loudly and fail softly, whereas when you look through your own eyes, obviously you're much more inclined to hold on to your shortcomings or where you have dropped the ball, and I just no one else is looking at you that way. So, generally speaking, I would say yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Matt:

I mean, outside of it sounds like it wasn't you weren't let go for misconduct or some egregious behavior on your part A little bit different if that's the case, but it's almost always not about you, it's about issues with the company as a whole and you're not responsible for that, or it's economic issues.

Jo:

Even if it is based on your behavior, like all you can do is move forward and that stuff doesn't define you, define you, and there are so many jobs out there, so many paths out there. I mean, speak to most people that are in their 60s 70s. Very few have done the same exact thing their entire lives. They're a handful, yeah, and it's becoming even more common now to try a lot of different things, work a lot of different jobs, and that can be you and at the end of the day, very few people are going to ask when you say, oh, I used to do this and now I do this, people are going to be like, oh, were you fired or did you leave on purpose, or were you let go?

Matt:

What an uncomfortable question if you are asking that.

Jo:

Well, it's kind of like that thing of like being breastfed or formula fed.

Matt:

Sure.

Jo:

It's something people really really latch onto when kids are little, and I think that this is very similar, like right now, it's so relevant in your life, right now, but nobody's ever going to ask you that question.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

And so I think it's okay to.

Matt:

Yeah, I mean it's fine to be bummed about it, but For sure, that sounds like you have other prospects and yeah, it doesn't define you, and so it's really, really about moving on.

Jo:

I agree.

Matt:

I think of most of the people that you talk to that, even in their 30s and 40s, are like you know. I used to do this for a period of time and now I'm here.

Jo:

We have friends like I can think of a couple of friends who I know have been fired from like three or four jobs now and it was them. Yeah, like it's not even like a company issue, like it was them. And they're not doing a great job at their corporate job and being intentionally let go and they've found a different career now and are absolutely killing it and are phenomenal in that position. Like sometimes things just aren't good fits and you can just think of it as a like next steps to what your path is going to be. Yeah, I don't know. I just the idea of failing at life. I just don't think that exists. I think the only way that exists if you allow yourself to be unhappy for extended periods of time yeah, I do think that that's for me. That's my personal definition of succeeding versus not is. I really just want to live a happy, fulfilled life, and I think you can do that working at the fast food restaurant. I think you can experience that working corporate if your needs are met.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

And so the idea that that success needs to look a certain way is just, I think, a construct that yeah, if you've got a way to fulfill your needs, fulfillment's not outside of you.

Matt:

Yeah, I agree. So it's inside, everything's on the inside. That's just the reality of it, I know.

Jo:

Well, we'll catch you guys next week.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jo:

Follow us on the Instagram, on wherever you listen, live us words. I was trying to say give us or leave us. Leave us a review or a little rating and DM us, email us, leave us a voicemail.

Matt:

We love you guys, give us your voicemails, give us your emails.

Jo:

Yeah, give them all Bye, guys, bye.

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