Laundry Troubles and Life Lessons

What if self-care wasn't just a luxury but an absolute necessity? We're a day late this week but this week on Oversharing we reflect on our hectic Memorial Day weekend and the struggle to maintain self-care routines amidst the chaos of daily life.  Jo introduces her new philosophy for 2024, we teach Jo another new word, and we hit up Greg's Reads of the Week to get a little adrenaline spike via anxiety. 

Whether it's a transition to independence and the importance of supportive family members during overwhelming times or offering practical solutions to a listener's laundry dilemma with deodorant stains, we wrap it all up with voicemails from our awesome listeners.  From accepting compliments to reminiscing about old footwear, this episode is packed with humor, practical advice, and heartfelt reflections. 

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Transcript

Prioritizing Self-Care and Health Maintenance

Speaker 1 0:00

Welcome to Oversharing with Overbees. I'm Jo. And I'm Matt, and each week you can tune in to hear us respond to your voicemails, go in-depth on our lives as content creators and hopefully leave you feeling even better than we found you.

Speaker 2 0:10

With that being said, let's get to Oversharing A day late and a dollar short.

Speaker 1 0:16

A day late and a dollar short.

Speaker 2 0:18

Is that this week's theme? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 0:21

I'm working late.

Speaker 2 0:24

Because we didn't do it ahead of Memorial Day.

Speaker 1 0:28

Yeah, memorial Day weekend always gets the best of me.

Speaker 2 0:32

It was a full weekend.

Speaker 1 0:33

You know what? Honestly, I think life just kind of gets the best of me.

Speaker 2 0:38

Is that the season you're in? Well, yeah, it's a battle and you're losing.

Speaker 1 0:42

I really do kind of feel that way, but not in a way that I like blame anyone other than myself.

Speaker 2 0:47

Sure, yeah. No, it's not like a lot of external forces, yeah.

Speaker 1 0:51

Like I haven't been set up for failure, I am failing myself. Does that Okay?

Speaker 2 0:57

That sounds really down, but.

Speaker 1 1:00

I don't necessarily mean it really down.

Speaker 2 1:02

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:03

I just don't like. I look back and I feel like I did not do the best job in my 20s, creating a reliable routine. I am just in my 30s, figuring out that you have to take care of yourself. Ah Not even that you have to that like it's not a bonus. Oh, yeah, Like taking care of yourself should be the priority.

Speaker 2 1:24

You should, yeah, Like taking care of yourself should be the priority. You should. Yeah, Does that check?

Speaker 1 1:28

You shouldn't be taking seasons off Right, Like when people ask more of you, the first thing to go isn't you taking care of yourself?

Speaker 2 1:35

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:36

That's prioritized over what you have to offer to others.

Speaker 2 1:39

Yeah, that's I mean. I think that's fair, I think it's really easy to do like to drop it, because a lot of times it's not even, it's not like something fun that we're doing no like health and wellness isn't always like an exciting deal but I don't even just mean health and wellness.

Speaker 1 1:57

I mean like taking the time to reset your house so that you can operate within it gotcha. I'm talking about, which I guess can fall under health and wellness in a way. Mental wellness I mean fixing my hair. Like there are a lot of days that I just go air dried hair because I'm like I don't have time.

Speaker 2 2:15

Yeah.

Speaker 1 2:16

And what I mean by that is other people want things from me and so I. To take the time to do my hair for myself is selfish.

Speaker 2 2:25

Yeah, that's an unhinged take that I'm having in my brain and I would never, or you'd have to sacrifice more sleep than you're willing to, which is I would never think that of someone else, though.

Speaker 1 2:36

If somebody else like took the time to do their hair. I'm not like well, that was really selfish.

Speaker 2 2:40

Yeah, but I think that's a normal like internal. No, it's the struggle there is no way.

Speaker 1 2:46

Most people struggle doing their hair because they think it's selfish oh, not to get ready in the morning no, fair, that's okay. No, not like don't normalize crazy, okay, okay and on that note ASMR.

Speaker 3 3:03

Oh.

Speaker 2 3:05

Made you wait for that one.

Speaker 1 3:08

They didn't get to hear the bubbles, you talked over them. Oh, bummer, you'll have to wait for next week.

Speaker 2 3:15

Love that, love that. So we want to go through our weekend.

Speaker 1 3:18

Yeah, we can talk about our week.

Speaker 2 3:19

Yeah.

Speaker 1 3:20

Do you have any major updates?

Speaker 2 3:24

No, nothing major, we just really did the holiday pretty busy.

Speaker 1 3:27

We grilled out, we hung out with friends. We did you know what I?

Speaker 2 3:31

cooked a bunch.

Speaker 1 3:33

You did cook a bunch For us.

Speaker 2 3:34

You cooked well, I mean I cooked like three out of four dinners, which for us is sadly a lot.

Speaker 1 3:40

It was well. You cook dinner for someone every night. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 3:44

Like you cook. Well, you cook dinner for someone every night. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 3:46

Like, you cook every day, but you like.

Speaker 2 3:48

Yeah, I made like meals that went on the table that everybody ate the same thing. That's been a struggle, uh, the last probably year or two, of like making a proper dinner that people sit down and eat.

Speaker 1 4:01

You don't believe in sides. I don't believe in self care, cause I think it's selfish. Matt thinks sides are selfish.

Speaker 2 4:07

They're indulgent.

Speaker 1 4:09

No, Matt's into just a protein. You know what we have for dinner A hunk of meat. Good luck.

Speaker 2 4:15

That's the unbalanced part of me eating keto, like when I'm eating, yeah, keto. I tend to be bad about making proper low-carb vegetable and fruit sides.

Speaker 1 4:30

There are plenty available, just I fail to make them, so I'm like yeah yeah, I've been watching people's what I Ate Today things and I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't eat real food.

Speaker 4 4:44

You don't eat real food though I don't eat real food.

Speaker 1 4:46

gosh, I don't eat real food. I don't eat real food and I don't eat real quantities, and you would think that I would be skinny. Well, yeah, yeah, you just you like you load a lot of meal into one meal, but I think my body's hanging on for dear life.

Speaker 2 5:01

Yes, yeah, your body doesn't feel safe in it.

Speaker 1 5:04

No wonder I feel. Yes, yeah, your body doesn't feel safe in it. No wonder I feel so bad.

Speaker 2 5:06

Yeah.

Speaker 1 5:07

I have a meal plan to start that my wonderful trainer, amanda, that I have the privilege of working with, wrote me, and after this podcast, we're going to get it out and look at it, because we need to start.

Speaker 2 5:19

I haven't even seen it. I'm the one who cooks my friend Claire has been doing.

Speaker 1 5:23

She did a 12 week nutritional plan and she didn't lose a ton of weight, which is like that's not necessarily my goal either. I mean she lost a few pounds, but she lost four sizes in her clothing.

Speaker 2 5:36

Whoa.

Speaker 1 5:37

Like, her weight didn't fluctuate a ton, but her, like, body composition shifted entirely. Well, that's cool.

Speaker 2 5:43

I know, yeah, don't you want to do that, don't?

Speaker 1 5:45

you want, well, that's cool, I know yeah. Don't you want to do that? Don't you want to like see what happens? I do.

Speaker 2 5:50

Sure, sure yeah.

Speaker 1 5:51

Do you want to do the meal plan with me? I mean I'll be making the food, so I know, but do you want to do it with me?

Speaker 2 5:57

I'll do what I can with you. Yeah, I mean, I don't like. My passion is not making like two or three different meals.

Speaker 1 6:05

Claire noted that as well. She said that at first she was really frustrated because her husband kept eating her food and she's like then she just started making double of everything, and now they both look fit and great oh good for them. I was like that's cool Shots to Claire. I know I just want to feel better.

Speaker 2 6:27

Yeah, that's, I think really the biggest change you need, as I drink an Alani Well, alani's pretty good.

Speaker 1 6:32

It's terrible. I didn't used to drink caffeine Before you and I moved in together. I did not drink caffeine. And even a few years after we moved in together, I didn't drink caffeine. It's since having kids.

Speaker 2 6:47

Yeah, well, yeah, that does some things to your sleep.

Speaker 1 6:51

But still, I shouldn't be coping with caffeine, I should be coping with better nutrition, better lifestyle habits. Yeah.

Speaker 2 6:59

Oh, okay, come on.

Speaker 1 7:01

Anyway, what else did we do? We cooked a bunch. That was fun.

Speaker 2 7:04

Yeah.

Speaker 1 7:04

My family. We spent time with my mom and dad. We spent time with friends. We did. My friend Josie brought over a massive bounce house from play small, that's like a water slide. Yeah, it was a water. It was like a pool bounce house slide. It wasn't even a bounce house. I guess there's no bounce area, inflatable, inflatable water slide and splash pad area, and it was really fun.

Speaker 2 7:30

Yeah, the kids had a blast. Yeah, our kid didn't stop. No, she went nonstop. It was really, really fun, so highly recommend that I think she rode the slide until she was like trapped head to toe.

Speaker 1 7:46

Yeah, it was a really lovely weekend.

Speaker 2 7:50

Yeah, it was fun, weather was good, just kind of hung out, I mean other than the tornado that rolled in at the beginning of the weekend.

Speaker 1 7:56

Yeah, that was really bad. If you guys are not local. Where we live was hit by a pretty decent tornado and straight line winds and I feel I shouldn't laugh. It's absolutely horrible. But I feel bad because there is a follower of mine who moved to Northwest Arkansas recently who every time there's been a storm the last year has DM'd me and been like I'm so scared, like how are you not scared of this? And I grew up in Tornado Alley. We have lived with storms like this, both of us.

Speaker 2 8:28

Since we were toddlers.

Speaker 1 8:29

Yeah, our whole lives, like we're just kind of used to it and I don't know. It's kind of like when you talk to somebody that's like from Florida or the coast and you talk about hurricanes there are people from California with earthquakes. Although I feel like earthquakes, generally speaking, there's a lot less damage Like I realize that when they're bad, they're worse.

Speaker 2 8:50

Yeah. But with hurricanes the great one of 99 or whatever, and it's like it leveled the city Right.

Speaker 1 8:56

But then generally. But I feel like with hurricanes, like the same homes are destroyed over and over again.

Speaker 2 9:02

Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 9:03

But homes are destroyed over and over again. Yeah, that's true, but anyway she had messaged me on the night before and she was like, oh my gosh, are you okay, like all this stuff? And I DM'd her back. I was like I didn't even know there was a storm, I slept right through it. And then I turned on the news and I was like, oh, I need to text friends for their safety. It was like bad.

Speaker 2 9:21

Yeah, a lot of times because we we don't. We've gotten plenty of them, especially in the last couple years, but uh, we haven't had a ton do extensive damage in like a lot of the populated areas no, and this one, this one did this wasn't a little bit.

Speaker 1 9:37

This is extensive damage. A lot of homes destroyed. The tree damage is what I can't get over.

Speaker 2 9:44

Yeah I mean it's outrageous just trees down everywhere, big old trees, yeah, so that part's really sad and they get old because they last through a lot of those, and so it's sad to see them go. It really is especially.

Speaker 1 10:01

I think downtown bentonville is going to look totally different and downtown Rogers, I mean yeah, Cause that was. I don't understand how it hit both of those downtowns with how far apart they are, but it did crazy, but we we dodged it, but it was significantly affecting our area, still is. That's still going on. Lots of people still lots of friends still without power. So we've been kind of on call for all of those friends, making sure that they have safe spaces and our guest rooms been open and um, yeah, so anybody that's listening that may be affected by that.

Year of No Commitments

Speaker 1 10:41

We're thinking of you and I've shared resources on my story, but if you're having any kind of trouble that you think I can connect you with the right people, please feel free to DM me. Yeah, matt and I are in our chill year.

Speaker 2 10:52

Our chill year. Is that what we're?

Speaker 1 10:54

doing. Yeah, that's what I'm calling it. It doesn't mean that we're not busy and working and doing things, but I'm in a year where I'm not committing to anything new.

Speaker 2 11:03

Oh fair.

Speaker 1 11:04

That's like my big thing that I'm doing. It's like I am not committing to any new big projects. I'm not committing to any new businesses. I'm not committing to any new like undertakings or anything like that, Because over the last five or six years, every single year has been something Like 2017, I went into full-time self-employment. 2018, I shot 50 weddings. 2019, we got married which was a massive thing in and of itself and built a house.

Speaker 2 11:35

And still 50 weddings.

Speaker 1 11:36

And then in 2020, I photographed 40 weddings and we bought this house. In 2021, we had a baby and we're continuing the renovation on this house. In 2021, we had a baby and we're continuing the renovation on this house. 2020, I got pregnant again and we were wrapping the renovation on this house, and then in 2023,. We had another baby. Like I need a moment.

Speaker 2 12:03

This is also coming from the woman who committed to a work trip in two weeks.

Speaker 1 12:08

Three weeks.

Speaker 2 12:10

Three weeks.

Speaker 1 12:12

No, it's good. We still have to pay our bills.

Speaker 2 12:16

I know, I know, I'm not saying that I'm taking a sabbatical. It's a good initiative, Just you know it's a good initiative, Just you know.

Speaker 1 12:23

But what I mean is I can't take on things that are going to cost me money and additional time.

Speaker 2 12:31

Yes, yeah, no, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 12:33

Going on a work trip to speak somewhere where I am getting paid to be there is not the same thing. That's doing my job.

Speaker 2 12:42

I know it is. It just made me laugh. Why are you making fun of me? No, it shouldn't make you laugh. I'm not making fun of you. I just was like I demand an apology. My deepest apology to you. You're wrong. Yes.

Speaker 1 12:54

How is that? Isn't that different?

Speaker 2 12:58

Yes, I was just laughing, because we're talking about not doing new things and you committed to a work trip like yesterday. Short turnaround, which is fine. Fine, I'm excited for you.

Speaker 1 13:10

I'm actually. I think it'll be really fun, but I don't understand.

Speaker 2 13:11

You're just a busy lady.

Speaker 1 13:13

You love being busy I love being busy, but I don't think that qualifies under what I'm saying, that's what I'm confused about.

Speaker 2 13:19

Got it?

Speaker 1 13:19

it's not it doesn't meet your scale. It's not even about scale. It's a like I'm my travel is paid, I'm in a paid speaking role. Like I don't understand how that applies to anything I've said down. Just working like saving, not committing to like being pregnant, not committing to a huge like backyard overhaul. That's going to be tons of work and cost, you know yeah, we can dump my hole I don't understand back and forth. Oh, it's fine, I just would like to know more I it doesn't.

Speaker 2 14:01

We don't need to get into it. I don't think it qualifies for what you're talking about. I just you're like no change, but I'm sensitive. I know you think that's change. Yeah, I mean most people plan their their stuff a little further ahead than that.

Speaker 1 14:18

Yeah, this was just an opportunity, like yeah.

Speaker 2 14:21

But, Okay.

Speaker 1 14:23

You know I community, like yeah, but okay, you know, I understand tiger doesn't change its stripes right away tiger doesn't change its stripes? Uh, ever, I guess but we're yeah I'm hoping if I say it aloud enough, though I will try to do better you're willing into existence. That's kind of how I've done my entire life oh, that's true I like tell a bunch of people I'm doing something, then I have to, yeah, you're big into like, if a bunch of people I'm doing, something.

Speaker 2 14:45

Yeah, You're big into like if I tell enough people, I can't back out of this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 14:49

Yeah, it works.

Speaker 2 14:51

Yeah, I'm, I. I think I'm sadly similar, but I don't tell people.

Speaker 1 14:57

Right, you don't use that tool.

Speaker 2 15:00

But if it does happen, I'm like well, I guess it's time there's enough pressure. Although that's been hit or miss lately, we're trying to work that back in Because I've committed some things that I haven't pulled off yet.

Speaker 1 15:15

You have.

Speaker 2 15:16

Yeah.

Speaker 1 15:17

Oh.

Speaker 2 15:18

Yeah, I mean me making content. That hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 1 15:22

That's true, and I kept saying that, yeah, but I also don't feel like you've said it with your chest. You know what I mean, like when I say I say these things it's not like oh, I think I should start doing this or this is an idea yeah, you're not like saying this is something I should be doing I'm working on this and this is gonna happen yeah, like I'm like it's a finished product yeah, I've never seen you say something with your chest and not do it.

Speaker 2 15:46

Fair, fair.

Speaker 1 15:48

Like, I don't think I'm not going to follow you on that.

Speaker 2 15:50

I need more chest, more chest.

Speaker 1 15:54

Tattoo that.

Speaker 2 15:55

On my chest.

Speaker 1 15:56

There you go.

Speaker 2 15:57

That'd be great. I like it More chest Write that down. That's an idea.

Speaker 1 16:03

Idea.

Speaker 2 16:04

I said that and I was like oh, that's our kid, I'm copying our kid now.

Speaker 1 16:08

Greg's reads. Greg's reads.

Speaker 2 16:10

Reads Greg's your dad. He reads some news, reads, reads. He sends us that news and we rate the articles on title alone, on how much anxiety they give us.

Speaker 1 16:19

Scale zero to five. Yep Each week we read three articles. What are they?

Speaker 2 16:26

going to be. What are they going to be? Let us know. You want to read six custom tax planning tips for high-income individuals and families.

Speaker 1 16:32

Oh.

Speaker 2 16:33

From Kiplinger.

Speaker 1 16:33

Like a well Kiplinger. I like a five out of five.

Speaker 2 16:41

Yeah, it's high Tax is really a triggering comment for me, yeah, strategies, taxes.

Speaker 1 16:46

It's concerning Like I said, I don't really like finances and immediate anxiety.

Speaker 2 16:50

Yeah it's not what you want to see. No, not right away. Anyway, all right, let's look at a couple more. Hopefully they improve. Gardener frustrated after realizing they used the wrong material and raised garden bed.

Speaker 1 17:04

You 100% got scam scam two out of five got scammed.

Speaker 2 17:10

That's all that was left I was hoping there's more I mean one out of five really yeah that's not really super concerning. You don't care about my garden dreams, oh okay. Well, I am the labor behind your garden dreams you are. I'm the. I was going to say wind beneath your wings, but I was going to try and come up with something more clever and I failed.

Speaker 1 17:32

I missed the dirt beneath my spud.

Speaker 2 17:36

Your spud is not. I just did not know what. Yeah, your spud Got it. Dirt beneath your spud. Weirdest trees in the world Discover nature's wackiest tree wonders.

Speaker 1 17:48

Zero out of five.

Speaker 2 17:49

Yeah, there's no anxiety there.

Speaker 1 17:51

I can't hold it together.

Speaker 2 17:52

Does pique my interest. On the weird trees, the underground tree, wow, okay, I'm not going to sit down and look at all these trees, but anyway, that's Greg's reads you okay? No, I'm not okay, you need five.

Speaker 1 18:05

That was really not intentionally gross.

Speaker 2 18:08

No, I didn't like it.

Speaker 1 18:09

I was just thinking about that. That was like the vegetable that I loved working with my grandparents when I was a kid in their garden Potatoes. I've never, planted potatoes and carrots, because with potatoes you have to dig and find them.

Speaker 2 18:24

Oh gotcha, it's not carrots.

Speaker 1 18:26

You pull them. But I liked anything. I like to really get my hands in the dirt.

Speaker 2 18:31

That's a nightmare for me.

Speaker 1 18:32

Yeah.

Speaker 2 18:33

I don't have a ton of sensory, but I don't like my hands being dirty.

Speaker 1 18:36

Did you just say I don't have a ton of sensory?

Speaker 2 18:39

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 18:41

I think you have tried to mask your way and just like completely.

Speaker 2 18:45

Bare knuckle my way through my sensory issues.

Speaker 1 18:48

But that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Speaker 2 18:49

But the opposite is I need gloves to work outside, yeah.

Speaker 1 18:53

I don't.

Speaker 2 18:54

It's not even a germs thing, it's a feeling thing, it's a texture thing, it's a sensory thing. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 18:59

It's a bad sensory thing I like to not wear gloves. Oh a bad sensory thing I like to not wear gloves unless I'm doing something like that's gonna be sharp.

Speaker 2 19:08

Obviously I hate it. I hate it.

Speaker 1 19:09

You always are like why aren't you wearing gloves, like I want to touch the dirt?

Speaker 2 19:12

it's like you're touching the dirt with your fingers. Yeah, it's not. It doesn't feel nice, it's both like wet and dry and abrasive, and you might touch your hat and then your hat's dirty. It's everything. It's everything I don't want to experience.

Speaker 1 19:32

The trauma. You're everything I want. That's not right.

Speaker 2 19:38

I don't know, I don't know that song very well.

Speaker 1 19:40

She's everything I want. I don't think that's right either.

Speaker 2 19:42

No, are you sure? Maybe it is Try again Run it back. Third time's the charm.

Speaker 1 19:47

Everything inside of you that you wish you could be what?

Speaker 2 19:52

a mistake.

Speaker 1 19:52

She says all the right things.

Speaker 2 19:54

Sorry guys, I was asking for it.

Speaker 1 19:56

I had exactly the right time.

Speaker 2 19:58

Brought that on myself, canceled, and here we are.

Speaker 1 20:01

Oversh. And here we are Overstream with overwes is canceled.

Speaker 2 20:04

Yeah, that's not going to help. I can't imagine it's going to help.

Speaker 1 20:09

Okay, anyway, let's get into word of the week. Word of the week Word of the week.

Speaker 2 20:17

Are you familiar with the word amiable? Would you like to see it? Yeah, kind of.

Speaker 1 20:30

A-M-I-A-B-L-E. I think I'm familiar with it in that I thought it was am.

Speaker 2 20:33

Amiable.

Speaker 1 20:35

I thought it had a C in it.

Speaker 2 20:37

Amicable is a different word.

Speaker 1 20:38

Oh, it is, it is Okay, that's a word. That's a word, yeah, that's like an agreed. Right, that's what I thought.

Speaker 2 20:43

Yeah, that.

Navigating Change and Mixed Emotions

Speaker 1 20:43

That's a word. That's a word. Yeah, that's like an agreed Right that's what I thought. Yeah, that's not what this is Nope Amiable. Oh, they're so similar. Say both of them Amicable and the other one Amiable. Why would they do that? Well, I mean Amiable, amiable.

Speaker 2 20:59

Amiable.

Speaker 3 21:00

Is that right?

Speaker 2 21:01

Amiable. Is that right Amiable?

Speaker 1 21:02

Amiable, amiable.

Speaker 2 21:05

Amiable, it's been a while since you've been entirely unable to pronounce a word.

Speaker 1 21:11

Amiable.

Speaker 2 21:12

Amiable.

Speaker 1 21:12

Amiable.

Speaker 2 21:13

Amiable.

Speaker 1 21:14

Amiable.

Speaker 2 21:14

Okay, we got to stop now, is that right?

Speaker 1 21:16

Yep Amicable, Amiable, no no no.

Speaker 3 21:19

I'm trying to say both of them.

Speaker 1 21:23

Amiable.

Speaker 2 21:25

Amiable.

Speaker 1 21:25

Amiable.

Speaker 2 21:26

Diffusing warmth and friendliness, or good natured and eager to please.

Speaker 1 21:30

I'm amiable.

Speaker 2 21:31

Kind of golden retriever.

Speaker 1 21:33

I'm amiable. Yes, you're an amiable person.

Speaker 2 21:36

I'm not usually very amiable. Okay, I'm nice.

Speaker 1 21:40

Right.

Speaker 2 21:41

I don't diffuse niceness. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 21:44

Matt told me today that I'm manipulative.

Speaker 2 21:47

Oh my gosh. Okay, that's a gross misinterpretation. Well, a gross.

Speaker 1 21:56

Representation of the exact words you said. Out of contextual representation, Okay how are you going to swing this?

Speaker 2 22:07

I said I am more sensitive. I think you have a you when, when you have not and manipulates a strong word, like when you are trying to get something or ask, ask for something. It's not.

Speaker 1 22:27

I did say manipulate, but I did not mean it say that how he's saying everything now is not how he said it earlier. If what you meant is, I am a firm believer that you catch more uh flies with honey I am yes, but I don't think that's me attempting to manipulate other people.

Speaker 2 22:46

And I said in the moment that manipulate is not the right word, but I'm more sensitive to someone being nice to me and thinking that they could manipulate me than someone being angry with me.

Speaker 1 22:59

Crazy.

Speaker 2 22:59

And you are a much more nice than angry person. You basically refuse to be angry, so yeah.

Speaker 1 23:08

I was very sensitive to it. Well, I don't think I like exploded. I just was like shocked when you said it.

Speaker 2 23:13

This is the couples therapy portion of the pod yeah, where we just recap this week in couples therapy.

Speaker 1 23:19

Highlights, lowlights. Do you not think like I was super shocked? You were shocked.

Speaker 2 23:23

I was like oh, I did start that sentence and go. This wasn't the right wording. This isn't really even what you mean, but let's see if we can carry it through.

Speaker 1 23:34

It's going to provide some shock and awe.

Speaker 2 23:36

Yeah, let's really razzle, dazzle them today.

Speaker 1 23:38

You didn't say it angrily.

Speaker 2 23:40

No, I didn't mean it.

Speaker 1 23:43

Honestly, you were being really nice and then all of a sudden you just dropped that on me. I was like whoa.

Speaker 2 23:47

I was just yeah, I was just trying to be transparent that I do have a sensitivity to people being nice to me.

Speaker 1 23:52

Which is totally fine and not the same as telling me.

Speaker 2 23:54

Yeah, I have a strong distrust of people being nice to me.

Speaker 1 23:59

That's good to know, though.

Speaker 2 24:00

Yeah.

Speaker 1 24:00

That was a revelation to me.

Speaker 2 24:02

It doesn't resonate with me. It's still like it's still important to be nice to people, even if they don't trust it. Don't be mean to me. I'll be upset by that too.

Speaker 1 24:13

I'm sensitive. I'm a sensitive boy. Yeah, oh, that's a really.

Speaker 2 24:18

I just I get put on high alert when people are nice to me. I'm bad at accepting a compliment. You are bad at accepting a compliment, one of the worst to ever do it.

Speaker 1 24:26

Like honestly I think, maybe the worst I've ever seen Ever.

Speaker 2 24:31

Someone will compliment me and I'll be like well, but I do this thing terribly.

Speaker 1 24:35

And they're like okay.

Speaker 2 24:36

And they're like. That's not what I was talking about. You have a like you know.

Speaker 1 24:45

Or they'll compliment him, and so he'll insult their intelligence. Okay, tell me that okay only with people, not with someone you don't know okay but like if one of our good friends was like you know, you're really, I don't have a clue of what to say, your eyes are really pretty you'd be like, well, you might be stupid I don't know.

Speaker 2 25:04

Uh, you'd be like, well, you might be stupid, I don't know. Uh, I might be like well, you don't see color very well, I don't know, maybe like one of the worst examples.

Speaker 1 25:11

Yeah, I don't know that, I'm just calling people dumb left and right.

Speaker 2 25:15

I, yeah, I will maybe minimize their, their credentials to give me a compliment, yeah.

Speaker 1 25:22

I their credentials to give me a compliment.

Speaker 2 25:23

Yeah, I tried you did.

Speaker 1 25:25

Anyway, it was a good effort. It was a good effort, thank you.

Speaker 2 25:27

I hope I haven't said that.

Speaker 1 25:28

No, it's not that.

Speaker 2 25:30

It seems, mean in a way that's not funny enough.

Speaker 1 25:33

No, but it is to be funny.

Speaker 2 25:35

Yes.

Speaker 1 25:36

But like I also don't think compliments should be rewarded with the You're supposed to laugh away the compliments and dismiss them, right? You're supposed to laugh away the compliments and dismiss them Right.

Speaker 2 25:45

Mm-hmm, that's straight out of the playbook.

Speaker 1 25:48

Okay, can I get a copy of the playbook?

Speaker 2 25:51

I'll have to write it, and I don't want to say that with my chest. Okay, I'd rather not commit to writing that.

Speaker 1 25:58

Understood. We have voicemails.

Speaker 2 26:01

Oh, okay, let's see what people are saying.

Speaker 1 26:03

Voicemails to do. Have voicemails, oh okay, let's see what people are saying. Voicemails to do uh, lots of people dm'd me this week about uh, you and general things about you with the podcast. Now I'm trying to remember what they were because I wanted to repeat some of it I'm guessing it's not compliments no, it's compliments to you, it was about you not being. Oh, what was it? Oh, it was talking about your internal monologue and not having them, and that you're not broken.

Speaker 2 26:30

Oh, I wasn't worried, I was broken. Are you worried I'm broken? Yeah, well, I mean.

Speaker 1 26:35

No, I'm not worried.

Speaker 2 26:38

Not for that specific reason. I'm broken in other ways. I don't think my monologue is one of them. Well, I think we're all broken, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 26:45

I don't know if that's a good word to use at all, oh no, but like. From the way we're talking about it, I think there's lots of people that like are broken what. Really.

Speaker 2 26:50

Yeah.

Speaker 1 27:00

I think there's people that are likework. I think you rarely find somebody that just Do you think?

Speaker 2 27:04

one of my flaws is thinking that a bunch of other people are out there just being perfect.

Speaker 1 27:09

Yeah, I do Okay. Voicemail number one.

Speaker 3 27:17

Hey Joe and Matt. This is Sarah. I'm calling from Montreal, canada. Just wanted to say first that I absolutely love your podcast. I listen every single week and you guys always make me laugh and put a smile on my face. I really appreciated Matt's explanation of how improbable the rat in the Alani new can is, because my best friend was convinced that it was true. So thank you for that.

Speaker 3 27:39

I'm calling for some advice because my boyfriend and I are getting ready to move out together in the next few months and this will be my first time moving out.

Speaker 3 27:48

I'm 26, so I'm definitely ready for it, but I didn't go away to university or anything. So I'm kind of experiencing a little bit of mixed emotions about moving out for the first time. And as much as I'm so excited for this new chapter of my life, I'm also mourning you know, my life living at home, especially because I'm an excited for this new chapter of my life, I'm also mourning, you know, my life living at home, especially because I'm an only child and I'm so close to my parents. So I'm just wondering if you guys had any advice about navigating change in life and kind of having mixed emotions and being really excited but also kind of being sad about certain things changing and being really excited, but also kind of being sad about certain things changing. So anything that you guys have to offer would be great and just keep making an awesome podcast and hope you guys are doing well. Take care.

Speaker 1 28:35

That's really exciting. I'm going to start with that and thank you for the kind words. I feel like maybe I'm not the best to give advice, because I'm somebody that craves disruption and I crave change and I've really had to lean into allowing myself to get comfortable in the same place.

Speaker 2 28:56

Hence Joe's 2024 commitment.

Speaker 1 28:59

Yeah.

Speaker 2 29:00

Of like less change.

Speaker 1 29:02

Yeah, but you're somebody that really struggles. Well, okay, I'm going to give what my tidbit would be.

Speaker 2 29:11

Okay.

Speaker 1 29:12

And I don't know how well this applies, just not being similar in that way. But there are very few things that you can't go back.

Speaker 2 29:23

Yeah, it seems like you have a very close relationship with your family, which sounds great. But yeah, I bet they'd take you back if everything just blows up in your face.

Speaker 1 29:37

And I don't mean. I think part of probably what you're explaining is that it's bittersweet moving forward. You're excited, but you're kind of bittersweet to see this wonderful season come to a close, and I think that that's very true. Like you can never repeat the season, but your relationship with your parents will still be there and your ability to visit them will still be there, and you're also going to do that while getting to try new things too.

Speaker 2 30:06

Yeah, and if your relationship is that close, you'll be able to reach out and, like I think, those people will want to help you and want to um build you up. I'm guessing they don't like they. Their plan wasn't for you to live at home forever, I mean, if it was, that's a different deal, but I'm going to guess it's not. And so, since it's not, I bet they will be excited to help you on this next phase.

Speaker 1 30:31

Yeah, and I think that's cool. I think about what it may be like someday to have grown children and to get to help them build out their homes and their lives outside of what it was while they were under my roof, and I think that's a season that I very much. I'm in no rush, but I look forward to it because it's going to be really cool to see what they build and what I can help them achieve if they choose to include me and help them do what they want to do.

Speaker 1 31:02

So I think about that part too like how exciting for your parents.

Speaker 2 31:05

It is really cool, like that's a you've got a ton of. You may be ending a phase, but this next phase is great.

Speaker 1 31:12

Yeah.

Speaker 2 31:12

You've got a ton of awesome things to look forward to. I agree, and it's overwhelming, like, just be okay with that, there's going to be some overwhelming moments, and that you've got people in your corner and make sure you're reaching out, because, yeah, sometimes it's like, wow, I have all these things I'm now responsible for, that I've just been thankfully not having to do and all the bills and insurance and everything, all that it does accumulate and it can be a lot for the first time.

Speaker 1 31:40

I agree.

Speaker 2 31:41

You're capable.

Speaker 1 31:43

Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 4 31:44

Hi Joe and Matt. I have a laundry question once again for Matt, which, if you guys ever wanted to do an episode where you guys just talk about basic things around the house, like decorating or laundry or gardening, and just answering questions and talk about your guys' experience with that, I would 100% listen in. That sounds awesome. Anyways, I'm the person who does the laundry for our house and so because of that, I am dealing with my husband's t-shirts and work shirts and dress shirts that are all getting stained by his deodorant and I found that, like OxiClean works really well but over time they're just falling apart at the armpits and it leaves a residue behind and a stain. And if you have any recommendations of what I can do to help with that, that would be greatly appreciated. Or if you have any deodorant recommendations that don't do that, that would also be appreciated, because I'm getting really tired of throwing out some of his nice t-shirts and dress shirts. Anyways, love the pod, love you guys. Thanks for everything.

Speaker 2 32:50

Yeah, that sucks. It does happen. The thing is, I don't wear nearly as much deodorant as I used to.

Speaker 1 33:01

We're kind of a no-deodorant household.

Speaker 2 33:04

Yeah.

Speaker 1 33:04

Not none. I shouldn't say that.

Speaker 2 33:06

I use it if I'm going to go to the gym or if I know we're going to have a public event out where we're in the sun, but day-to-day I don't use it that much. We're not people that have a lot of smell to us, though.

Speaker 1 33:22

But I think part of that is that we don't wear deodorant. I'm like I know that there's like a big camp of people that are like the supernatural, like hippy dippy. And we have some things that we're that way about. But like it's not that for me, it's just that I have. My experience has always been I smell worse when I wear deodorant on a regular basis, and so I don't have a ton of recommendations. I wear a salt and stone when I wear it.

Speaker 2 33:56

Yeah, I'm literally looking at like Reddit to see what people say. One of the ones on here is Arm Hammer Essentials. There's some Main Getz which I think is like a.

Speaker 1 34:07

My question is is it the deodorant or is it sweat?

Speaker 2 34:11

A lot of times I think. It's like I think if it's pretty standard deodorant like the aluminum and stuff in it. I think, is what stains it. I don't totally remember. As for treating it, bleach the whites and ColorSafe bleach, which is OxyClean the other stuff, but that breaks down your fabric so fast. Yeah, soaking it, you just have to soak it Honestly, the less deodorant you can do, which, again, sometimes.

Speaker 1 34:37

That's not an answer for everybody.

Speaker 2 34:38

There are people that I'm like yeah, you need to be wearing deodorant regularly and that is just part of it.

Speaker 1 34:45

And unfortunately you just got to budget for more shirts.

Speaker 2 34:47

Yeah, that is brutal. Yeah, soaking, it is really the way it sounds like you've got this unfortunately handled. But, yeah, maybe pivoting to and doing slightly more research than like four seconds on a podcast, but I bet there's like red. It's probably a great place to like crowdsource ideas you're not the first person to have this thought but, um, less intense deodorants and then that also may help, like getting into stuff that isn't quite as a heavy antiperspirant, cause that's usually what you need, like the aluminum and stuff for is like actually blocking the sweat. Um, moving into stuff that's more primarily scented Cause then your body's still it's not changing the way you sweat as much, it's just making sure you don't stink when you do it. Um, cause I sweat a ton. The's just making sure you don't stink when you do it Because I sweat a ton. The problem is I don't wear as much deodorant anymore, not because I don't sweat, because I sweat outrageously. I've never found deodorant that actually keeps me from sweating.

Speaker 1 35:48

You can get Botox.

Speaker 2 35:50

I do know you can get Botox.

Speaker 1 35:53

That scares me. I don't think I could ever do it I sweat enough.

Speaker 2 35:55

I'm just concerned that, like, if my armpits stop sweating, my back will be flop sweating Like I. I sweat a lot and so I don't. I know you don't like you're you also? Like die of heat stroke if we get too hot it's weird because my family's super 50 50.

Speaker 1 36:14

Like my dad and my sister one of my sisters- yeah. Sweat like I've never seen people sweat.

Speaker 2 36:19

They sweat like me.

Speaker 1 36:20

In worse than you.

Speaker 2 36:21

I mean, yes, way worse than you, but we're in the same category of sweaters.

Speaker 1 36:24

But I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, and then I'll be out there and like I will. Eventually it happens.

Speaker 2 36:31

But yeah, like I hate hot yoga, not because of the heat necessarily. It's because I already sweat so much in regular room temperature yoga that the amount of sweating I'm doing in hot yoga is making it less safe. Lots of people are like I'm more flexible, I can reach more. I'm more unstable because I'm slipping, like.

Speaker 1 36:51

I have a you gripping mat.

Speaker 2 36:53

I have a high-end mat that will help with this, but I need that basically, for standard Hot yoga is just like I don't know. There's a 15% higher chance that I'm going to slip and tear something today. Yeah, that my pigeon pose is going to go too far and something's going to pop yeah, that's where I'm at. So, yeah, maybe his deodorant really works for him, In which case I would have a hard time letting go of it as well.

Speaker 1 37:23

Yeah, I would just be trying new shirts.

Speaker 2 37:26

Yeah, can you put liners on Like?

Speaker 1 37:29

I thought about. I was going to recommend that too. It really depends on the sweating situation.

Speaker 2 37:33

Yeah, and you got to buy in on some of these ideas, not really, because you just get panty liners. Yeah, but you're going to need him to buy into the concept of wearing panty liners in his armpits yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like these are good ideas conceptually to save your shirts.

Speaker 1 37:50

That's why I had that thought. And then I was like you know what? I'm not going to make that recommendation. I've seen people do that yeah, like I should do that because of how much I sweat Like weddings. Weddings are brutal for me. I really think that if you did that, though, like with how much you sweat.

Speaker 2 38:06

I would sweat around the panty line. It's the same worry I have with Botox. It would just be the shape of a They'd be like his armpits are so dry, but his back is disgusting.

Speaker 1 38:15

No, you would still sweat out of your armpits.

Speaker 2 38:17

And so like on the under of your shirt, they would think I had Botox.

Speaker 1 38:20

It would just no, there would be a shape. That's not Botox.

Speaker 2 38:25

Well, they would think it's a weird Botox shape. I don't know, no, no, they wouldn't. But they would be like oh, that looks exactly like a panty liner in his armpit.

Speaker 1 38:42

Exactly yeah anyway, that's sweat talk um, yeah, we should do just a household tasks.

Speaker 2 38:43

That sounds fun. That does sound fun. We'll, uh, crowdsource some ideas, see what you guys want to hear about. Yeah, laundry is one of the the dark arts, though I don't know there's some mystery. What happens inside that washing machine? Slash a bucket.

Speaker 1 38:55

See, I really want you to start your laundromat series.

Speaker 2 39:00

Yeah, the laundromat.

Speaker 1 39:01

Yeah.

Speaker 2 39:02

Yeah, I have some good series ideas, as long as I actually make them. I think you could start with like how do I film like a laundry series? Well, though I don't know, I'm going to have to look at ideas.

Speaker 1 39:13

So easy.

Speaker 2 39:14

Oh, okay, not easy. That's what this sounds like.

Speaker 1 39:18

I don have to look at ideas so easy oh, okay.

Speaker 2 39:19

Well, this sounds like I don't mean so easy, like you, idiot.

Speaker 1 39:20

No, no, no dumb, dumb, dumb, little boy. No, you're not dumb I'm saying that like I could show you and you could make it really interesting quite easily, I think okay, okay there are a couple different ways that you could do it all right workshop it, we can talk through it okay, interesting some short, like quick cut okay and some talking directly to camera would be perfect, okay, or maybe even we could get a thing going for you where you like quick cut and then you like put the airpods in okay and then music starts playing that's like go to doing whatever.

Speaker 2 39:53

Your stuff is transition, yeah theme a little transition theme idea there.

Speaker 1 39:57

And then you can take the AirPod out and the music can stop.

Speaker 2 40:00

What about, like I put, the AirPods in and then a fantasy baseball podcast is playing in the background of the video.

Speaker 1 40:06

You're going to have to find somebody to allow you access to their fantasy baseball podcast.

Speaker 2 40:12

What if it's just me pretending to do one, I've got an entire.

Speaker 1 40:16

Okay, I mean, that sounds not entertaining to me at all.

Speaker 2 40:21

It was a joke that really didn't land you.

Speaker 1 40:23

You gave me nothing there. That's because I don't think it's very funny.

Speaker 2 40:26

Oh, okay, well, got it Fine. Hilariously, not funny.

Speaker 1 40:32

You're really into like what Matt thinks is the funniest right now.

Speaker 2 40:37

Oh no.

Speaker 1 40:38

Is me presenting an idea that I think is pretty good and then him talking about all the ways that he can.

Speaker 2 40:43

Make it worse.

Speaker 1 40:44

Yeah, like that is your main bit right now.

Speaker 2 40:48

I wish it weren't true. And I'm tired of giving in Sometimes you just present ideas that are so good that I was like, well, that's perfect, let's now make this funny, he never leads with.

Speaker 1 41:00

that's perfect.

Speaker 2 41:03

I'm never like that's perfect, but what if?

Speaker 1 41:05

No, no, you always start with, but what if?

Speaker 2 41:09

Oh yeah, I do try to act like I'm giving you a serious suggestion for as long as I can, and then I get excited every time.

Speaker 1 41:17

I fall for it every time, like right now, when you did that, you're like but what if? And I was like oh, he's about to tell me Okay. And then he said fantasy baseball. I was like, oh, I've fallen victim again to the bad jokes.

Speaker 2 41:32

And that's why you didn't laugh. You've been burned 15 times too many.

Speaker 1 41:37

Yeah.

Speaker 2 41:37

Yeah, that's fair. I think you're funny, I do yeah.

Speaker 1 41:41

Like a lot of times I'm like that is funny. But, Wrong audience.

Speaker 2 41:45

Yeah, yeah, that's, I get it, I get it, oh man.

Speaker 1 41:52

What's the worst stain? The worst stain, in my opinion, is the stain that you don't know what it is oh, that is a bad place to start worse than oil yeah, like that.

Speaker 2 42:03

Yeah, our kid had a stain that I was like I I think it's oil, but I don't know and that that garment was never the same yeah the only way I got it even close, as I bleached it and it had colors, so it came out.

Speaker 1 42:15

I mean not ruined it just looked really different than yeah.

Speaker 2 42:19

There is a point with some laundry where I go well, if I don't try and treat this, I can't wear it, and that gives you the license to really go at it. Yeah, that that's when you go. It might be blue, but we'll see what happens if I bleach it gently. Yeah totally, and that's what happened to that garment you know what you're going to be unhappy to hear, oh no, I broke another screen protector, okay, well, the good news is, I have unlimited screen protectors for your phone.

Speaker 2 42:46

For some reason, I couldn't find one for mine.

Speaker 1 42:49

I don't know when I did it, but I don't know how to turn it off, so you can see.

Speaker 2 42:53

Our kids and you are really good at just like hucking the phone me what am I hucking the phone? It's not hucking the phone. You just like knock it or drop it yeah, I do drop I won't lie the back of my phone's broken uh I don't even know how it happened, everybody yeah, I'm usually so good and I broke the back and the back on my phone is like impossible.

Speaker 1 43:14

Matt has a superiority complex I'm better than you in every way, okay maybe not if that's the line I just meant about like devices, because you always act like you are really kind to yours, but I don't know that that's just like entirely true. You just like are really hard on how other people treat theirs not necessarily like really good to yours. Okay, how many devices have I killed.

Speaker 2 43:42

Killed.

Speaker 1 43:43

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 43:46

I mean I haven't killed. I did have a bicycle crash that killed one.

Speaker 1 43:51

Uh-huh and.

Speaker 2 43:55

And I got held up at gunpoint and lost another one and which device are you thinking of? The phone, the, the ipod that fell off the top of a car? And okay, um, oh, what's? And I mean my phone that I broke the back on now, uh-huh. Is that the last one? Yeah?

Speaker 1 44:15

it's the last one, yeah, that I can think of off the top of my head. Oh no, yeah. So now let's talk about casualties of my devices.

Speaker 2 44:24

We've had to replace some screens.

Speaker 1 44:27

Not mine.

Speaker 2 44:28

You've had two screen replacements. You got mad because one you got done when we were on a trip and you didn't like the quality of the screen replacement that you got. Screen replacement.

Speaker 1 44:36

So I had you do it, but that's not. I didn't need two screen replacements. I shattered my screen one time ever.

Speaker 2 44:45

Okay, that's the only time.

Speaker 1 44:47

Yeah, okay, I've broken screen protectors.

Speaker 2 44:50

Yeah, well, I'm the reason you put screen protectors on, though.

Speaker 1 44:53

Right.

Speaker 2 44:56

Yeah, okay, yeah, okay fine.

Speaker 1 44:58

Everything else that we've had to replace with mine. It's out of it being way too old. Yeah, it being worn into the ground, Like I keep things forever.

Speaker 2 45:05

Yeah, phone manufacturers don't anticipate the usage that you give them.

Speaker 1 45:12

No.

Speaker 2 45:13

You're like, what if this phone was used to its absolute limit?

Speaker 1 45:18

For four years.

Speaker 2 45:18

For years, every day.

Speaker 1 45:21

I still my laptop that I got when I graduated college is still operational in this household. Yeah, it's a decade old.

Speaker 2 45:29

I rehabbed the screen. It needs a little.

Speaker 1 45:32

It's in good shape.

Speaker 2 45:32

It's in good shape. Yeah, I've done a little rehab.

Speaker 1 45:36

I also have mine from high school still.

Speaker 4 45:37

That is not in good shape.

Speaker 1 45:38

It's not. The computer's not in bad shape. Yeah, the battery doesn't hold a charge and there isn't a replacement battery.

Speaker 2 45:44

And the cord is effed.

Speaker 1 45:46

Okay, but like the device is still totally operational. Yeah, when we charge it.

Speaker 2 45:52

That's true.

Speaker 1 45:52

That's true, it turns on everything.

Speaker 2 45:55

Yeah, those old Macs, they're still going trucking.

Speaker 1 45:58

And that thing's what. I bought that with mowing money when I was a sophomore in high school.

Speaker 2 46:05

Yeah.

Speaker 1 46:05

So, that would have been 2009?.

Speaker 2 46:09

Not fair 2009?

Speaker 1 46:11

2009?. I really wanted to be an 09 graduate, so I could say that.

Speaker 2 46:16

I think my CPU already. Oh, my gosh words. I really wanted to be an 09 graduate so I could say that my uh, I think my superiority. So, my gosh words, I think my superiority complex comes more when it comes to cords.

Speaker 1 46:25

Yeah.

Speaker 2 46:25

Cords are where I'm bad.

Speaker 1 46:28

Yeah.

Speaker 2 46:29

And you are very hard on cords.

Speaker 1 46:30

I couldn't. You've killed a lot of cords I have, that's true.

Speaker 2 46:36

They're not meant to be bent at sharp angles. At the end it does break them guys. Yeah, be gentle with your cords, they will, they will be good forever.

Speaker 1 46:41

I'll take that criticism.

Speaker 2 46:42

Yeah, cords and connectors.

Speaker 4 46:45

Yeah.

Speaker 2 46:46

Yeah, but I have had more phone mishaps. I don't know what to say about that. I've been exposed.

Speaker 1 46:53

You know, it's because you try to take such good care of them.

Speaker 2 46:57

Yeah.

Speaker 1 46:58

Like you're so sensitive to it.

Speaker 2 47:04

I think that just stuff happens. Hey, that's the mentality you have to take with white shoes.

Speaker 1 47:07

Now, if we want to talk about something I've ruined, yeah, you can't handle white shoes.

Speaker 2 47:11

I can, I think.

Speaker 1 47:13

I handle white shoes better than you.

Speaker 2 47:14

Disposably.

Speaker 1 47:16

Because the way I think about it is they're just shoes.

Speaker 2 47:19

They're just tan shoes.

Speaker 1 47:20

When they're not white anymore, I still wear them. I don't stop wearing them.

Speaker 2 47:24

White shoes are just gray or tan, that's all they are. They just start a different color.

Speaker 1 47:29

I generally do pretty good with them, but then the moment I'm like they get anything on them, I'm done.

Speaker 2 47:35

Yeah, I don't love that where you're like they got a little bit dirty, so then I decided to garden in them. You did that with a pair recently that I was like I feel like we could have brought them back, and you were like, eh, I'm done with them.

Speaker 1 47:49

Those were a year old and I had worn them almost every day the entire year.

Speaker 2 47:53

I hear you.

Discussion About Shoe Collections

Speaker 1 47:53

I think they were a good. I don't have a gardening shoe right now.

Speaker 2 47:56

Were they uncomfortable at that point, had they outlived their wearableness?

Speaker 1 48:06

I don't want to be uncomfortable gardening.

Speaker 2 48:07

Okay, fine, I have to wait till a shoe's broken to wear it as a gardening shoe. Yeah, most of my gardening shoes are just completely ruined. Hey, I have shoes that are five years old. They're still in great shape.

Speaker 1 48:15

So do I.

Speaker 2 48:15

Okay, I have shoes that are five years old.

Speaker 1 48:18

They're still in great shape, so do I. Okay, white ones Okay. Well, we can't all own 200 pairs of tennis shoes.

Speaker 4 48:26

I wear like three regularly.

Speaker 1 48:27

Hey guys, I would like you to go to our.

Speaker 2 48:28

TikTok profile go to the outfit of the day tab and count the number of tennis shoes Matt is wearing just in the last 20 videos, because I almost guarantee you know what oh, no, don't we're doing it live fuck it, we'll do it live you keep talking um, yeah, I do, I used to have oh my gosh, that was upsettingly loud I used to have a real passion for shoes. I don't buy as many now, but back back, when I lived by myself, I bought a lot of shoes. I'd buy them on sale. That's how I justified it to myself. But I've stopped doing that because it's not necessary. I need to get rid of a lot. What are you on? How far are you?

Speaker 1 49:15

Well, I've only gone through 15 videos and it's 11 different pairs of shoes.

Speaker 2 49:19

That can't be true. Yeah, I can't, I'm not tennis shoes.

Speaker 1 49:23

There is 10 different pairs of tennis shoes 10 what are you sure you're seeing these correctly? Yeah, well, do these count?

Speaker 2 49:30

I've been qualifying your little uh, okay, yeah, that's one pair. Okay, two pairs, three pairs, three pairs, three pairs, four pairs, five pairs. These are old, a lot of these are very old I just did, I did a six.

Speaker 1 49:51

Okay, got it, got it, got it, got it. Well, it's only 15 videos, seven.

Speaker 2 49:57

That's a dirty version. Still seven pairs though.

Speaker 1 50:00

That's an additional pair of shoes. They're two different pairs. I have a working pair and a not working pair.

Speaker 2 50:06

It's still an additional pair of shoes Fine, seven and a half pairs, eight and a half pairs. Eight and a half, that's. I think I still had those, right, yeah, okay, fine, I'm rotating a handful right now.

Speaker 1 50:21

That was only in 15 videos, Matt.

Speaker 2 50:24

I don't have a lot more than that that I wear right now.

Speaker 1 50:27

You are so out of touch what?

Speaker 2 50:30

do you mean I'm out of touch?

Speaker 1 50:30

You're so out of touch with what you wear.

Speaker 2 50:33

You're crazy, that's fine.

Speaker 1 50:34

And how many more pairs do you own? It's okay, I'm not judging you for it.

Speaker 2 50:37

I own several pairs of shoes.

Speaker 1 50:39

But how many pairs of tennis shoes?

Speaker 2 50:40

Easily a dozen or 50.

Speaker 1 50:44

I bet you own about 50. How many pairs of tennis shoes do I own? Ten.

Speaker 2 50:54

You think I own ten. Maybe you don't still have ten.

Speaker 1 50:56

No, I don't know what you got. I bet I have six.

Speaker 2 50:59

Six yeah Okay.

Speaker 1 51:01

If we're including my new colorful ones.

Speaker 2 51:03

Okay, you only have six.

Speaker 1 51:06

Yeah.

Speaker 2 51:07

Seems impossible. You have a lot of shoes. I have a lot of shoes. That's why.

Speaker 1 51:10

I'm saying I'm not judging. Well, I actually don't. I mean, I still own a lot of shoes, but I have about 40 pairs total.

Speaker 2 51:16

Okay, yeah, we have a lot of shoes.

Speaker 1 51:20

I used to have a lot more. It was a problem when, I worked in retail. I have more than I realize, but I have all kinds of shoes that are 10 years older. Yeah, like I have a lot of boots and things, I still wear them.

Speaker 2 51:34

I've got a lot of tennis shoes that people think are brand new.

Speaker 1 51:36

My cowgirl boots are 15 years old.

Speaker 2 51:39

Yeah, that checks, out. Maybe even it's funny, my boots are the ones that wear out.

Speaker 1 51:44

Yeah, I don't wear my cowgirl boots. Yeah, that often.

Speaker 2 51:49

I wore boots, boots for work a lot.

Speaker 1 51:51

Yeah.

Speaker 2 51:52

And those got beat up.

Speaker 1 51:59

Anyway, yeah, and those got beat up. Anyway. Now that you guys have watched, this is if anybody's ever wondering what an argument looks like in our household, that was a really good example, wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 52:04

say yeah.

Speaker 1 52:04

Of the back and forth, yeah, that can be for sure.

Speaker 2 52:08

That was definitely a yeah, it was a moderate one, Nothing too crazy, but that's where they tend to go.

Speaker 1 52:14

Yeah, that's the kind of thing we fight over in our household, just so you know.

Speaker 2 52:18

Yeah, it's true, so cute. Well on that note.

Speaker 1 52:22

We love you guys. Thanks for being okay that we're a day late and we'll be back next Wednesday.

Speaker 2 52:26

Talk to you soon Bye.