Oversharing with the Overbys
Welcome to Oversharing with The Overbys! In this podcast series, Jo and Matt Overby cover a wide variety of topics—from parenting lessons, life stories, to personal relationships. Take an inside look on the lives of Jo and Matt as they navigate the adventures of adulthood and overshare online.
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Oversharing with the Overbys
Big Transitions and Big Feelings
We share our raw emotions about our kids' first day of preschool and reflect on how parenting has changed us both in unexpected ways. This conversation explores life transitions, reassessing priorities, and finding our path forward as content creators and parents.
• First day of preschool brings reflections on parenting and personal growth
• Matt opens up about the challenges of being a stay-at-home parent to young children
• After 135 episodes, we're planning a full relaunch with a more professional setup!
• Matt plans to return to content creation with a more consistent approach. Again.
• We discuss how life transitions prompt self-assessment and new directions
• Our Train concert experience reminds us that sometimes you need fun amid big changes
• Greg's Reads segment covers suburban golf cart wars and pandemic preparedness
• We address listener questions about online engagement and privilege awareness
We'll be taking a break from monthly episodes to build our new studio, but Patreon subscribers can expect a few more exclusives before our relaunch. Stay tuned for a sneak preview of our new space before the official return!
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Welcome to Oversharing with Overbees. I'm Jo. And I'm Matt, and each week you can tune in to hear us respond to your voicemails, go in-depth on our lives as content creators and hopefully leave you feeling even better than we found you.
Speaker 2:With that being said, let's get to Oversharing An emotional episode of the podcast. Today, big feelings day here in the Overbee household First day of preschool for our two oldest.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Least little, and then our middle.
Speaker 1:I keep saying to you that I'm having big feelings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's like as far as we've gotten with a lot of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like it's very complicated Live on the pod, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it seems like the appropriate place to do that.
Speaker 1:I think it's really interesting. We're in this spot now kids are starting school, things are shifting, changing, and it's making me very reflective and it's making me kind of do one of those check-ins of how do I think I'm doing, what ways do I want to improve. You know, and it reminds me of there are seasons of life that are this way. So you, you do it where you're moving into the next thing. You go from middle school to high school, to college, to. You do it in relationships too, you know, from dating to engaged, to married, and you work through this like just different right, you work through the progression of things.
Speaker 1:Like that is life and you might pick and choose what of those things you participate in, xyz. But with having kids it's doing all of that again, but now from a different perspective of how am I doing guiding somebody through all of that again, but now from a different perspective of how am I doing guiding somebody through all of that? And then there's also the reoccurring moments each year, which for me are my birthday and new years. Those are like my big reflective things that happen during the year. Anyway, all that to say, you're probably like Joe, what the hell are you talking about With the kids starting preschool?
Speaker 2:today I'm finding that I'm in one of those really reflective states of one feeling like their little years, especially our older, like the little years are kind of coming to a close and we're moving on to kindergarten prep and her starting to be influenced by a lot more than what's happening just in our household yeah, that's a, that's a big feeling, one for sure, just like, oh, all of a sudden, and that's I mean, that's been a privilege that we've had is that she's four now and she's only known our house or like people in our life directly, and she's always been here with us and he's not that old yet, but which also has its own set of feelings. But this will also be a new kind of checkpoint, I'm sure. For us It'll be birthdays, new Year's, school year.
Speaker 1:Like school years.
Speaker 2:Everything changes every year with that for them, for us and all that. But this is the first time we've had them. Or will there be a regular schedule of when they'll be here and when they won't? Because even even when we've had childcare, that's in home and they take them out of the house for a couple hours. It's like, well about this time they'll be back, or if they, you know, it's just all very um up in the air and this is very defined and very out of our hands, which is not normal for us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I really appreciate feeling how I feel right now, though, because I think that it's when I become better, I think it's when I make a plan, I think it's when changes start being considered and thought about more. So I'm excited, like it makes me feel excited, and I can't say that I think it does that, for you, I would disagree actually. Okay.
Speaker 2:Like I'm having feelings right now, but I think this is for sure. This is something I needed, personally Like I. This is something I needed, personally like I, um we've had, we've had talks about it before, but like.
Speaker 1:I don't feel like a great stay-at-home parent well, I was gonna say let's set the scene.
Speaker 1:So for anybody here, this is our monthly episode, so you're all here today and anybody that hasn't been following us for a long time or hasn't, you know, listened to the whole podcast. Um, matt and I both worked full time up until 2020. Yeah, uh, I was a wedding photographer, matt was an engineer. In 2020, all my weddings got moved around and I started making content online. I was still making a living doing social media or doing photography not social media but I started to also make part of my living doing social media and in 2021, I took that full time and Matt was still working as an an engineer and we welcomed our first baby in 2021. Yep, and things started to really shift and everybody kept communicating to us again and again your kids are only little for a really short time.
Speaker 1:Your kids are only little for a really short time and I was getting to be home and doing, you know, social and being a stay-at-home parent to our daughter and a working stay-at-home parent totally yes because at this point you were driving the majority of our income yeah, but I still was the sole care provider for our child and Matt and I had a talk and Matt felt like he could do more being at home and that he would get to enjoy and embrace the little years and that the option was always there with engineering that he could go back when we got where we are. Not that you have to go back, I'm not telling you that on the pod.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it's not like an announcement of me leaving.
Speaker 1:But we always said that this is when we would kind of reevaluate and see what you felt like you wanted to do. Anyway, I just want to give the whole context of like you were going to be home, you were going to be involved with the kids, you were going to, uh, handle a lot of our household labor tasks so that I could really focus on. Well, what I ended up being focused on was throwing up in a toilet while being pregnant again and again, but work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hadn't even thought about it.
Speaker 1:Things didn't go how we thought they were going to go?
Speaker 2:No, not at all. Not at all. It's all I'm getting at.
Speaker 1:I was setting the scene.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally. I hadn't even really thought about this being that time that we talked about like that. This is really the check back in period, Just because we've had some of those talks before this and I'm sure we'll have some going forward, but, um, yeah, yeah, I guess that is definitely part of it.
Speaker 2:I've just learned that I'm not, uh, necessarily the best stay-at-home parent to small kids. Um, you're very nice and you, you always correct that. I might be a lot better with older kids that have more um autonomy and have more like school aged kids, even if they were home more than school hours. I think it's an age that I navigate better, but this age especially requires such a strong executive function and a strong direction, honestly, and those are not high on my list of skill sets.
Speaker 1:I also think it tests your regulation in a way that older kids don't I think especially differently.
Speaker 2:I think especially me, though, but because I'm such a logical like hyper rational and that's not meant as a a brag, that is, it has flaws, real flaws to it, when you have to deal with the emotions and I didn't think of it as a no, I know you don't, it's just like.
Speaker 2:I don't want it to sound at all, as though like well, I'm super rational and I totally make all the right choices. It's like not really like you make all your decisions with rationality and you have all your feelings way outside rationality and you also don't deal as well with the feelings of other people.
Speaker 1:You also use rationality to support whatever feeling you have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it makes you very good at rationalizing a feeling that isn't necessarily grounded in reality, yeah, yeah a feeling that isn't necessarily grounded in reality. Reality, yeah, yeah. But all that to say like that is not a good uh practice when you have little kids, and it's not again, it's not that I'm using these tools with kids, it's just like that's what's natural to me, that's what I've been set up with to this point in my life, and so I've had to uh, really readjust, and it's not been the easiest this toddler's manipulating me it feels that way and they absolutely aren't, and uh, but that doesn't mean the feeling isn't there?
Speaker 2:they know I'm doing this yeah, like they understand what's going on. It's like they really don't. They don't understand at all and you should probably stop assuming they do. Or even if they do understand, that they're two, three, four and now's the time that you have to teach them not yeah, yeah, exactly like you know better like yeah, but I don't I don't know better.
Speaker 1:I literally I'm learning this right now.
Speaker 2:If they do know better, they're like, yeah, but this feeling took over my body and I did it anyway it's like that's part of it. That's just life, um, and I've learned a lot, I've grown a lot, but it's not something I'm I've found myself well inclined to, and, uh, this will be a really good period of trying to reset and really figure out what am I going to do with my time, what? What do I want to do? Do I?
Speaker 2:want to be an engineer do I want to be an engineer again, do I? And and my goal with uh this next probably couple months is to actually social get back and into some kind of give it a shot, like really give it a shot.
Speaker 1:He's talking about content creation, making content.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all I said was social and that was it. No, and I've dabbled in it. I think we've joked on here, at the very least, on the Patreon episodes. Every year around my birthday, I think, I hit a mile. It's one of those milestones and I go oh shit, another year where I told myself that I would really try this and you did it for four weeks, six weeks, two weeks, and then 11 months goes by and then you turn another year older and you rinse and repeat that. So it's basically like Matt's content season is July to August first week of August usually first week of August last year I had a really nice run, I think.
Speaker 1:I ran it all the way to September, september, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then immediately stopped. Didn't post another thing for 10 months, 11 months, whatever it was.
Speaker 1:Like I've always said, there's never been pressure in our household of like you need to make content. I still feel that way. I know you want to give it this good run and you really want to and I think that's awesome and I have seen you make content and really light up when you're when you have concepts and when you're executing those concepts and editing and you know you've had a lot of fun with it in the past and I think if it continues to feel that way, I'm on board. But I also never want there to be a dynamic in our household of like you feel like you have to because you're good at it or because people like you, or because it feels like this wasted opportunity.
Speaker 1:I never want it to be framed as a wasted opportunity, I guess, is what I'm trying to which is almost exclusively how I frame it in my own head, I know and I, I don't like that yeah, no, no, that's fair. But because that's not how I, and if you have listened to, this podcast all the way through.
Speaker 2:You've heard me do this like three times yeah yeah, um, and I think it's been pretty hyper ambitious, but I have a real proclivity for um trying to change my entire lifestyle overnight, and this is probably the first year six months maybe, um where I have tried to make sustained change not tried what? Yes, I have made small, sustained changes I think that's really important and I have, when they've been interrupted, been able to start back up a little bit, which that's usually. Quite frankly, I think I'm pretty good at changing my entire life overnight.
Speaker 1:Compared to most people.
Speaker 2:yes, On a scale of one to ten, I think I'm an eight or a nine out of being able to do that. It is not sustainable. I don't think it's sustainable for almost anybody that it is not sustainable. I don't think it's sustainable for almost anybody, and it's really just a matter of like. Well, you did it Honestly. You did it for three months. That was pretty impressive. Then you collapsed as a human being and had a rough nine months or whatever follows, but this is hopefully a slow shift in a lot of that, but it's wild. It's really coming fresh off of. You know, dropping them off today Feels very quiet here. Them off today, feels very quiet here. But I've also. I feel like. What's been really good, though, is since we're both home, and this is a pretty unique circumstance, I'm sure, but it's it's one of the first times in a while where I've felt like a real opening for us to work together more. I don't know like, and maybe tell me more what that means.
Speaker 2:I think just somewhere we've been in the last year, two years, three years, whatever, um, as we've had kids and as we've kind of divided our labor up, is we're on the same team in like the big picture, like we have really good, like we have the same goals or we have the same, like we represent the same team, like here. Here's an analogy for you, and I'm not normally the analogies guy okay but I feel like it's like we're both sports teams and like we represent a city.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:But we're not in the same league.
Speaker 1:Okay, like we're different, like I'm the Kansas City Royals and you're the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Okay, like we are we vaguely? I'd like to be the Chiefs, actually.
Speaker 2:You can be the Chiefs. I think that's a better.
Speaker 1:That's apropos, Totally Like up totally like I take it back no, I can be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll be the oh man, I'm forgetting the, the soccer team. But like, whatever it is, we vaguely rep like we represent the same city, we have some of the same goals, but we are playing different sports yeah you're in charge of the football team, I'm in charge of the baseball team and so, like our, our overlap is just a little bit and I think now and this whole time I've thought matt was supposed to be in charge of the football team.
Speaker 2:I think that our players are not playing well together and it's like, well, my guys play baseball and your guys play football, and so, like, some of them are very talented and can do a little bit of both, but generally it's a different sports situation. I have not expressed this to you, I think in like almost any way, but no, this is my.
Speaker 1:That's why I said please tell me more yeah, it's a little, a little. I love the podcast, matt tells me his feelings for the first time, then we get to talk about it.
Speaker 2:But there's just an opening, there's a structured time and I think we both have goals. If you've listened to the previous episode, I think we kind of soft floated the idea of us relaunching the podcast.
Speaker 1:We talked about it on the last monthly.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Briefly.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We talked about it a little bit, but now is our official notification. Uh, we talked about it a little bit, but now's our official notification. We will not be coming back with monthly episodes for the remainder of the year, so we'll be coming back. Well, I don't even know want to call it coming back, because it is going to be a full, I think maybe we'll do something before like.
Speaker 2:Maybe we'll record something to kind of like announce the shift is completing or something like that. But we'll likely be relaunching new channels, new everything for the podcast and just doing a reset on things. So if we release another monthly episode, it means things have gotten heavily derailed and that we're not redoing the studio yet.
Speaker 1:But the plan is in the next week or two.
Speaker 2:You've quit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not coming back without the new podcast studio. If Matt comes back alone with oversharing. Things have taken a weird turn, Oversharing with the over B Just singular.
Speaker 2:I'm sharing with the over B Just singular. No, because I think it's going to take a couple months to build this studio out, and the time that we take to record this is going to be spent doing that, and so we've got some ideas drawn out. I've been ordering lights. We'll probably have to re-rig.
Speaker 1:We should come back professional AF instead of just this.
Speaker 2:It's going to look very different. Surely, it's not going to look the same.
Speaker 1:It's going to look really different Again if these things aren't true. I'm not coming back, yeah, which is fine If we don't come back. It doesn't mean Matt and I hate each other.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, we are still together, hopefully. I don't think it has's not has to do with the other, but and we'll still. I think we've still got a few, uh, patron episodes that we'll we'll put out before the end of the year. Should do a few more weeklies, but, um, yeah, just the big episodes that we put together.
Speaker 1:This will be the last one, for they'll be on pause, yeah, where matt is taking on a big old project yeah, and and well, and, like I was saying with content is like.
Speaker 2:That gives me a really big project that I can film regularly. I know what I'm doing. I'm gonna have the hours now to because I work. I work in bursts, so if start something, I want to work on it for six hours, eight hours. It doesn't work really well with small kids. Even if someone's watching them, they still know you're there and so they want to be involved. Like we have a great and I love that they're involved.
Speaker 2:It's going to feel really weird not having them around it. Being this quiet here is weird. But it also means that we've got a really great opportunity to start over with some things and really get into some bigger stuff that we've put off. Because I bet a month ago I talked about wanting to redo content on our episode because that was right after my birthday and then you've not seen much, if anything, since then. And it's because literally probably that same week that I talked about that we were like, oh, this is our last month with the kids, month with the kids. We how about let's not really dive into these new people? We're gonna be in new projects, we're gonna. That's just me. You don't want to be a new person, which is great. You're an awesome person.
Speaker 1:I also like I a lot of times as you talk. I'm like this is so interesting because it's my first time hearing your thoughts and perspective on a lot of like. I knew that we said let's put a pin in trying to put daily for you, putting daily content out there, and I have relaxed a lot over the last couple of weeks because I have just been in with the kids. I've been really soaking up like being able to take them to the pool and I I have a feeling that'll be me every summer.
Speaker 1:I don't, I don't know, that I always tend to take some time this time of year and just soak it in there. They're only you know kids for so long and I I feel like most of your relationship as a parent with your children is as an adult, and I ideally have a really firm grasp on that, in a way that I feel like a lot of my peers that are parenting like I.
Speaker 1:I don't know I haven't gotten there well, I just feel like I look at it all from kind of a I don't know, I, I I'm always like, oh well well I can stay really grounded and rooted in that concept even when I'm overstimulated or frustrated.
Speaker 2:For the most part, honestly, it's probably that a lot of people who are our peers, their parents are still even as they're raising kids. A lot of them, their parents are still really involved in the raising of their kids and like, that's not necessarily our situation just because of our, our family's health issues and stuff like that. But, um, so we have. We have an acute sense of, like, the shift from one to the other and how much different it is as an adult than it is as a child, and I think it's probably a more gradual transition for most people. Yeah, which is great. Love that, if you do.
Speaker 1:Prefer that. I hope that that's what my kids get to experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, same.
Speaker 1:I think that is the way things are meant to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and again, fingers crossed that that all works out for us. But we have a different circumstances. It is so, um, but yeah, it's, it's um, big feelings day for sure, all kinds of them, I uh. But I'm, I'm excited getting into a new project. Getting into, I'm going to get to go build stuff, I'm going to tear stuff down. I do keep walking out there and being like, oh, this is a big building, this is really going to be a whole project. But once I start, I know I'll keep going with it, but A lot, lot, a lot of stuff that's not what the other building out there is telling me at all yeah, but the other building was also done right before, like that was done as Matt was spinning content back up again.
Speaker 2:Matt, you're doing that thing where you're rationalizing hey, I promised the people online I'd do that. I thought that accountability booster would really work for me.
Speaker 1:Um for some reason, you don't think the people online are real, like you don't think anybody's like you think this podcast is just something we do in our living room and only us hear it.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, absolutely Like it's not people have talked to, talked like, not that people come up to us a lot, but recently, like, several people have come up to you and then also like, made a point of being like matt, I love your stuff also and I'm like well, it's because on everything I ever, I'm always like tell matt, because matt doesn't understand, like it's not that you don't, it's not a, it's not that you don't it's not a it's not a lack of appreciation.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's not like that.
Speaker 2:It's just like you can't, they're very separate in my head. Like the internet is like a different thing that has so little impact.
Speaker 1:Like, we have this podcast that's pretty big on planet internet, but nobody here on earth experiences planet internet. You guys wouldn't know.
Speaker 2:Exactly, Exactly, Exactly. And then you sit down and talk to somebody and you're like when somebody walks up to us he's like oh my God, you know about planet internet too.
Speaker 1:Like that is how you react.
Speaker 2:I actually forgot about planet internet myself. We do participate.
Speaker 1:We had an awesome uh listener and follower that uh came and talked to us when we were at the train concert last week, which I would love to talk about, by the way.
Speaker 2:Oh, we should.
Speaker 1:And she walked away. Matt was like she listens to the podcast I was like that's crazy.
Speaker 2:That's the thing that really does like what are we doing? It feels so niche and we don't promote it. And like the people that come up and are like love the podcast. I was like I just assumed nobody. Like we have numbers that quantifiably say not nobody listens to this.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Quantifiably says people do listen to it, not nobody. Not nobody is a double negative. That said very poorly.
Speaker 1:We have numbers that say not yeah, I was, I was fine, I was with it, it sounded better.
Speaker 2:I love a double negative quadrupled down on how bad it was with, I think, nobody caring.
Speaker 2:Um, that is the podcast is by far the biggest like huh, wow, I forgot that that was an option. But the funny thing is is whenever we start talking about it because it is one of the things we mentioned, when people ask us what we do, because I think podcast is one of the easier ones for people to grasp if they're not online to the degree that a lot of people are. If it's somebody that's not in that world, like they do understand what a podcast is. It's just like radio on demand and that's a much easier concept, even though it's not something that we make money on. But we talk about it and then we describe what we're doing and then I go yeah, we've made it for like two and a half years. It's like oh, that's a tremendous amount of time. We have 130. This might be episode 135, 134, something like that, that and so that's a ton of episodes, which is that all ties back into okay, we've proven we can do it week to week.
Speaker 2:Let's really, if we're going to continue doing this, right let's really pour into it, let's produce it more, let's make it a thing, let's advertise, let's relaunch properly so that it has the visibility that I think it deserves, because I think, hopefully, if you're listening and you've made it this far um, you'd agree that it's worthwhile yeah, it's good that I hope so with it yeah that it doesn't have to be a hobby podcast that we do that. It could be um something that is more um worth our time and energy.
Speaker 2:It's not just where joe finds out my thoughts and feelings on something that would really be probably the true loss if we stopped stopped doing the podcast. It's just like I don't know what Matt thinks anymore. He doesn't have a fake internet he doesn't have the planet internet to just therapize himself publicly to in private make him feel accountable to sharing his feelings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Accountable with no pressure. Maybe that's the beauty of it. It's like I have this audience that I feel accountable to, but they like they're not real right it's, but they're real enough that I believe it. That's the sweet spot. I have a hard time tricking myself really you guys are it? Yeah, this is it, this is the most?
Speaker 1:did you watch the tiktok I sent you about adhd? Oh, maybe is it how soon?
Speaker 2:how recent was it in the last two days?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay, no okay, I think I sent it to you today okay and it's uh, it was like neurotypical people giving adhd people advice and then it was like adhd people giving adhd people advice. So the first is like all right, have you tried? I like to make a list and then sometimes I like to, you know, set a timer for 60 seconds, you know and see what you can get done. Like that's a neurotypical person giving.
Speaker 2:That's funny.
Speaker 1:Cause.
Speaker 2:I feel like that is also like something they ADHD coach people too, but well, I don't know. But I'm sure it isn't a make a list, Like it was just like really basic, you know. Then it was like Make a list, Like it was just like really basic, you know. Then it was like have you tried?
Speaker 1:thinking about it. No, like that's exactly. Then the second part is she's like all right, you're going to need a milk carton, four rubber bands and a hula hoop, and like that's how it starts. And she's like it keeps cutting. She's like okay, then you're pouring the milk over yourself in the center of the room, but before you can shower you have to. Yeah, and when you just described that, I was like this is so that neurodiverse, like well, it has to be just right.
Speaker 1:I want to feel a little manipulated, while not feeling like I'm being manipulated, yeah.
Speaker 2:That is like I struggle with. That. It's even sometimes in like therapy. It'll be like, well, what if you just like tell yourself that it's this way or like, effectively, can you trick yourself? And I was like, well, that kind of sets off a real demand avoidance for me, where I feel like I'm being manipulated, even though it's me and I know it's good, like that's a no-go for me. I'll rebel against myself, even if it's positive. So yeah, that's Matt's.
Speaker 1:Matt's got to rebuild some new neural pathways.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, some wandering brain thoughts from a very deep rutted brain.
Speaker 1:On a lighter note, train was awesome.
Speaker 2:Train was a train was awesome. It was a great, great show.
Speaker 1:We had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:This is our third time seeing train at the amp which is hysterical and I feel like it. We get the same reaction every single time. If they're coming to town, we're like, oh, we're going to go see Train, and people are like, huh, I don't know any Train. And that's where we interject. And we're just like, no, if you don't know seven out of their ten most popular songs, I'd be floored.
Speaker 1:It means you've not been inside, we've yet to run into somebody that doesn't, yeah, and so it was a really fun show. We had a good time with our friends and um.
Speaker 2:It was fun to see him perform again, and it was perfect weather it was, and for it to be like 78 degrees in August is crazy yeah, we had a really nice time, and so that that's my high from the week yeah, that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:It it makes us sound like trained super fans or that we're listening to train all the time. But, honestly, like it's, it's just the the weeks that they come here and then you're like, oh yeah, I do like enjoy this, but I think their gift is just being great performers and like loving to perform yeah, they are really good because there are.
Speaker 2:There are definitely bands that are not that way, that are like yeah we, we're doing this because we didn't pay enough taxes back when these albums were bangers, and so we've got a whole thing worked out where we we tour every summer to pay the tax. Man, yeah and uh, you get that vibe and they, they're having a good time, they, they love doing it. So I'm sure it helps when you have like a lot of hits. So you, you get a little variety.
Speaker 1:People aren't just sticking around to well and I keep noting this to everybody we've talked to about it I couldn't believe how few people were on their phones during the show it was by far the least amount of phones I have seen at a live music performance in a decade.
Speaker 2:And there was. It was a lot younger crowd than I expected.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:If it would have been just people like 40 and older at the concert, I wouldn't have thought anything about it. I halfway expected us to be on the young side of the audience.
Speaker 1:We weren't.
Speaker 2:And we were not. No, no, we were somewhere in the middle, but we were not. The young, the young people there, the youths.
Speaker 1:No, it was a lot of fun. So that's my, that's my high point. Do you want to go ahead and jump into some Greg's reads?
Speaker 2:Yeah, greg's reads. Greg's your dad, he reads articles. Uh, he sends us articles and then, instead of thoroughly reading them and taking them to heart, we rate them on one to five. How much anxiety they give us. All right, here's a good one. Golf carts have taken over suburbia. Cue the resistance.
Speaker 1:That's the most my dad article. My dad bitches about golf court carts more than anyone I know know and I'm sure that they are a real problem. It's not absolutely like I am not trying to diminish, dad. If you're listening I know that it's a real valid issue. I just think it's so funny how passionate he has become, and I don't think he's alone well, but they also live in a neighborhood where it is a true like it is much more of an issue, although I guess I remember our old we used to live on a golf course.
Speaker 1:That makes it sound like it was like really fancy. It was nice, it was plenty nice, yeah, but it wasn't like a golf course neighborhood.
Speaker 2:This was not a private club.
Speaker 1:No, no, no no High end. It was nice. It was nice, but uh, anyway, I just I'm still in that group on facebook and people are also with dad and riled up about the children on golf carts people of a certain age, just they.
Speaker 2:They hate them golf carts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, no, I don't even think it's the golf carts. It is parents letting kids 17 and under go ham, and sometimes kids way younger, like 10, 11, are taking them out by themselves and making kid-like decisions.
Speaker 2:They're driving like they're 11 years old.
Speaker 1:The headline doesn't give me anxiety. No, I would say zero out of five, but it does make me giggle. Yeah, I like I kind of like our battle against neighborhood golf carts, because I feel like we as a society don't have a lot of problems like that that are front of mind right now, so I love a little like seems kind of silly yeah, you like it's serious, but you know, yeah, I mean you get hit by a car, it's a, it's a tragedy, but right, it's also a niche problem yeah, a niche problem very neat.
Speaker 1:You have to live. You live in the right neighborhood I won't lie to you.
Speaker 2:I looked at this article the other day just to like see what was up and it's it's just talking about different community, because some places they're street legal, some places they're not street legal but it's not enforced. Some places there's like no rule on it, like you can do whatever with them a little bit, because it's just a gray area. And so it's talking about the different areas where it goes one way or the other, because some places you don't even have to like register them in any capacity, you just pop on a golf cart and that's probably missouri.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then there's also like who can drive them? Do you have to have a license? Do you have to be an age? Whole range of stuff with it. But I don't know that it even landed on anything. It's just like described the situation give us the next article next article.
Speaker 1:Here you go the quiet collapse of america's pandemic preparedness okay, like a two and a half out of five I was gonna give it a three out of five in terms of anxiety it does a little bit for me, but not so much because I feel like I'm past enough to be like yeah, I know yeah, like that is the kind of headline I would have. I was an early pandemic panicker.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Most people were like it's going to be fine and I was like no, no, no.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I see these patterns. This is going to be really bad. A lot of people are about to die. I chose to cancel a trip I had in February. I think of that year, yeah, and I don't even think they're. I think the weekend of my trip was the weekend they announced the first US case.
Speaker 2:Or it was like, as they were starting to limit things. I don't remember, because I feel like it was before Christmas.
Speaker 1:No, they didn't start limiting things until March.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And it was in, I remember that weekend. It was the first case and it was in the city that I was traveling to at that airport, the first confirmed whatever report of and uh. Anyway, all I'm saying is that's something that would have. In that time I would have been like look, look, it's going to be, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no, I mean as bad as that is. I feel like, with everything going on, is it a top?
Speaker 1:five immediate issue. I don't know.
Speaker 2:It probably is. It's one of those where, if it happens, yeah, immediately becomes issue number one, yeah, exactly. But it feels like we have about 15 immediate issues in the world. So it's a cool, cool place to be. So All right, one more. Do you want one on health, or do you want one about tariff loopholes?
Speaker 1:Tariff loopholes.
Speaker 2:Here you go. Billions of packages shipped to the united states, now subject to steep tariffs as loophole closes oh, I thought I was gonna tell me about loopholes oh, no, no, no, no, but, tony, the loopholes are going away and stuff's about to become even more expensive uh, zero out of five well, I was gonna give it a three out of five for sure, yeah I've known that, like I, yeah, I mean that's, it's not been quiet honestly, something that has been a benefit to me and a privilege is a lot of the shopping I do is us made and um you've already made an effort to do more less so about it being domestic, more about it being ethically made and sourced and that stuff I've already been spending a lot of money yeah.
Speaker 2:You've already been buying expensive at a premium yeah.
Speaker 1:So, no, I say that, which obviously that's a massive privilege to have been able to do that, but that's why it's not as stressful to me is like things are still going to go up and things that I use will go up and I understand they already have some.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of it is that they have a more fleshed out supply chain that is less dependent on super low cost materials and super right yeah, which is the stuff that gets hit the hardest fastest, yeah, which is the stuff that gets hit the hardest fastest. So yeah, exciting times guys, exciting times. But that's Greg's reads.
Speaker 1:Let's see if we have a word of the week I just said that, as though I'm not the person that reads word of the week.
Speaker 2:I absolutely am All right, let's find a good one.
Speaker 1:Expectations are high. Ooh you familiar with panache panache that's kind of a grand or flamboyant manner or style I wish I would have taken a guess at it, because I thought it was gonna be what? What's the other word? That's kind of like that, uh um pizzazz is what's coming to my word, but that's not what I was thinking of, but maybe it was what I was style like it's.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's kind of what panache means, like with pizzazz panache a bit of like a flamboyant style yeah, I like that yeah he's got panache panache yeah can you spell it for me? P-a-n-a-c-h-e looks like panache okay, panache which won't help you with the word, but I would have pronounced that panache probably panache yeah nope, it's. Uh. I think it's got french roots from like 1500s panache.
Speaker 1:I like that, that's.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you say it like that, but yeah, panache, I really like it.
Speaker 1:You're looking like you got a lot of panache yeah, there you go, you got there you were worried about that sentence for a second you look like panache it got away from me for a second that's all right oh, that's funny oh, let's check our uh, our text line here.
Speaker 2:Text line somebody just said and this might have been a patreon specific uh comment, but I think we talked about you um, got, it was when you had your anonymous question box guys, I got got.
Speaker 1:I let myself get got.
Speaker 2:You got yourself a little bit. You got yourself by exposing yourself.
Speaker 1:Yay.
Speaker 2:But somebody was here to validate you and say I can't believe someone thinks you need to check your privilege more. I feel like you're very aware of your privilege and pretty transparent about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can't make myself not have it, I think, but I do think that sometimes it's hard for like I think it is. Thank you, I'm gonna start there, thank you that's very reassuring and kind. Um, I do think with being online and sharing things, there will always be a group of people who, if you come like, if you have some kind of privilege, they don't want you to be a part of the space at all, for sure.
Speaker 2:Which counts out?
Speaker 1:everybody, because anyone that succeeds like this is my really hot take.
Speaker 2:Okay, here we go. We went from an innocuous, just you know.
Speaker 1:Well.
Speaker 2:Validation to.
Speaker 1:I think anyone that has been successful benefits from some kind of privilege.
Speaker 2:Whether it's their natural skills or.
Speaker 1:Yes. Something they stumbled or right and the thing is if you dissect anybody being confident or proud of themselves. You can always go well.
Speaker 2:You need to check your privilege because you know well you really you're proud of yourself, that you're good at that almost, you know, like, but like almost any difference between people could be viewed as a privilege one side to the other.
Speaker 1:That's my point.
Speaker 2:I think what you're getting at. That's exactly what I'm getting at, but also what you were saying about people not wanting to include anyone that has privilege in the space. I'm sure it comes from the same vein as like, while an apology is appreciated, it doesn't necessarily mean that like a person feels differently after you give one like you can acknowledge the privilege, some people will still feel some kind of way about you having it in the first place, totally fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that's totally valid to me yeah, that's your, that's your right it's just like you make a real effort as far as people that do what you do, to try and not present as though it's just because you're the I just don't want to contribute to an overarching problem of like gaslighting people into they don't have it figured out or they need more things or they're not working hard enough or they're not working hard enough.
Speaker 1:I like. I don't think that's people's intention by any means, but I do think it's the impact of a lot of social media and content creation and I don't want that to be my impact.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, here's just another person gassing us up.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, that's nice. Do you want that?
Speaker 2:Sure, I just really need to tell you both that the way you communicate with each other is so refreshing. You radiate respect for each other and I love it so much. I strive to communicate with my partner the way that you communicate with each other.
Speaker 1:Thank you, that's so nice I feel like it's misplaced. But Well, I actually was going to say I actually get self-conscious about the podcast because I often feel like I'm not respectful of you in this environment.
Speaker 2:Gotcha.
Speaker 1:Not intent like not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not meant as disrespect.
Speaker 1:No, and it's not like me coming swinging usually.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I think that is something I don't feel like I necessarily. Anyway, thank you.
Speaker 2:Well, sometimes, you know you're getting a lot of new ideas exposed to you, so you I get a fresh reaction on some of those ideas.
Speaker 1:You do, and I feel embarrassed that sometimes those fresh reactions are on yeah recording, because I am not somebody who thinks before she speaks. In my safest relationships I think I do a much better job thinking before I speak in a public environment or online. But with Matt I say everything that goes through this brain gets said out loud, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's fair.
Speaker 1:And sometimes that happens on the podcast and I feel vulnerable and also embarrassed, because I want to treat you with respect and kindness yeah, well, I I rarely think you're coming at me with like a lack of respect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're usually just very transparent about what you're thinking and feeling yeah and you're you're very good at that thanks, babe but not always good about doing it. You know the most neutrally yeah never have to wonder how you feel no here's a really long one and it says it's mostly to you.
Speaker 1:So, okay, one of our canadian listeners has a very long email for you that hopefully we can help them with I used to follow joe a few years ago and after a social media break. I used to follow Jo a few years ago and after a social media break, I started following Jo again a few months ago. She's quickly become my comfort creator all over again. In a world where people tend to portray a certain facade online, to me it seems as though Jo is being true to herself and candid and honest about what she's posting. I've been drawn in by that. That's so nice I might cry.
Speaker 1:It's your new affirmation. Okay, this is really a lot of just affirmation it's just like really nice.
Speaker 2:I know there's a question down here and I don't know I haven't read it to know what. Anyway, okay we'll skim it to see if there's any important context in the in the email.
Speaker 1:Do, do, do nice stuff, it's all so nice okay, I think it's this.
Speaker 2:I I feel a little, um, some kind of way about us using this format to just be like nice things about us.
Speaker 1:I know, I know I do too. This is we'd love to answer questions, real questions, funny questions um. This is not the usual direction of this segment this is really nice, though, though I skipped a huge part, but I said I've taken some styling tips from what Joe has posted about my get-readies with me, and I've already seen a change in myself. I have more confidence and my mindset has shifted.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:Okay, she said how does Joe feel when people say that they are inspired by her and what she shares? Also, do you find it weird when some people comment on your posts all the time? Also, do you read every comment? Uh, I comment sometimes but sometimes refrain because I feel weird about what you might think. I mean everything that I comment. I find myself comment. I find myself. Commenting on your post helps me heal my inner self a little bit at the same time, um, look out for number one if it makes you feel better like fired out there yeah, uh, no comment on every single video.
Speaker 1:That's always so interesting. I actually hear things like that from people a lot. I don't think it's weird. Um, I, I. I don't think it's weird when people tell me that I've made a difference and I don't. I don't like. That's literally to me, the whole point. That's why I do what I do. I don't always. Honestly, I'm kind of in awe reading that message as a whole because I don't feel like I get a lot of feedback. I don't get a lot of negative feedback, but I would say that I really don't have a comment section full of people that are like saying things. If you look at my posts versus other creators, other people have a much more lively comment section with people saying a lot more and um and which goes both ways.
Speaker 1:It goes both ways, it does.
Speaker 2:Usually those are people that have strong thoughts on both sides of the aisle.
Speaker 1:And I do have people who are regularly in my comment section. But no, I mean if comment every day, like every time you see something, if you, if you see something, say something.
Speaker 1:No, if you have commentary that you want to give. That is the whole point. I'm putting it out there so that we can have those conversations in those spaces, in those comment sections. Do I see every comment? Uh, on smaller videos, yeah, Uh, if something has less than a hundred comments, I've seen it. Now, if something goes really viral and they're like I have one right now talking about this best season to have a baby opinion, and that video, I think, probably has 10,000 comments.
Speaker 2:And the early comments. You'll see a good chunk of the early comments and then yeah.
Speaker 1:Also, if a video, like sometimes a video from from six months ago like spins up again. Yeah, but I can't think of a get ready with me that I wouldn't have seen all of the comments on no, I don't think any of those are. They have to go pretty big for me to not see comments, yeah I'd say, now it will get to a point. If I've answered where something's from a dozen times, I won't continue to answer the same question over and over again in a comment section.
Speaker 2:But if you have something thoughtful or like intentional, especially, I mean you can ask again.
Speaker 1:That's fine, yeah.
Speaker 2:Especially if somebody has something to say of some substance. Sometimes it's just like love this and it's like, oh yeah, great Thanks. You can probably hear that our, our, uh, our baby that isn't at uh preschool is is having feelings he's waking up from it well, we've got a, a baby. That is, I think, uh ready for us to be done podcasting and a he's happy now yeah, a couple preschoolers that do need to be picked up from preschool before too long.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, no again. I see I try to like almost all of my comments. It honestly helps me keep track of like what I've, and I don't have comment sections that have 800 comments, so it's really less of a also when you make videos every other week too. You know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that really warmed my heart, though, to hear it making an impact. I struggle with having a negative mindset about myself at times.
Speaker 2:Well, this is a job that is fairly heavily dependent on your relevance to a degree or the reliability of your audience.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Maybe reliability feels a little bit loaded, but just how consistent of an audience do you draw? What is the like? That all has a very real effect on the path of this job, and so you've.
Speaker 1:You've had different feelings about your relevance or your consistency, or that kind of thing and I I have big feelings about the pressure you put on people to comment and to engage and to yeah, like I just have a lot of mixed feelings about how people go about it again.
Speaker 2:we have produced 135 episodes of this podcast. We have not promoted it in probably 100 episodes, yeah. So we skew on the wrong side of the self-promotion spectrum.
Speaker 1:But those kind of words mean a lot to me. I definitely am taking that to heart and I appreciate it. And yes, please comment on everything and anything you see that makes you feel any kind of way. I try to DM as many people back as I can. I like I really I try to be really engaged with my audience and it always surprises me because I respond to thousands of DMs a week and it has always been interesting to me that that never translated to people being engaged on post and video content. I for some reason, like always thought Maybe you're responding to too many.
Speaker 2:Maybe you should exclusively respond to comments. Get these people out of the DMsms into the comments. Really boost this engagement I like dming with people I like communicating with people that way and I value it I bet though some of your audience though that would be more regular commenters if they know that you keep up with dms well, like that keeps them out of their head and able to like carry on conversations that also have a more direct nature to them totally so you're screwing yourself.
Speaker 1:I don't know what to tell you yeah, no, I'm, oh well, I'm joking on that note yeah, again.
Speaker 2:Uh, for our patreon listeners there'll be a probably a couple more of these before the big shift. Uh, for our monthly listeners I think we'll probably end up putting something out before we transition over, but it should be from the new space, and so you guys will get a little sneak preview of what we're going to launch and uh, yeah, so stay tuned, um and happy fall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go back through old episodes. Uh, hop on the Patreon if you want and catch up on a backlog, because again we've done I don't know how many like Patreon exclusive episodes probably a lot 40, 50 yeah, a lot so, but we appreciate everybody that takes the time to be here with us, and so we would like to do that more and do that, and so we would like to do that more and do that better.
Speaker 1:So we will see you sometime. Bye.