Swear Word Rankings and Garage Water Features

We bounce from sweaty studio banter to household chaos, the social contract, and wealth inequality. Along the way we unpack why small annoyances hit so hard, share what’s been going on at home, and hear from listeners who use the show to spark better conversations in their own relationships. 

This week join us for:

• a listener-requested idea for Matt-led deep-dive rant episodes and how we would structure it 
• the May to June crunch, end-of-school logistics and why summer feels uniquely chaotic 
• socialist policies, capitalism and why “too much of anything” breaks systems 
• the dog marking the guest room rug, cleaning stress and how childhood memories shape triggers 
• what counts as a swear word, how context changes impact and why some words feel worse 
• driving rules as a social contract, road rage risk and choosing what’s productive 
• an AC condensate drain problem, a garage ceiling drip and low-stakes drywall fixes 
• battery fears, why electricity feels mysterious and what we want to learn next 
• SpaceX IPO, rockets versus basic needs and what the Gini coefficient signals 
• ear piercings, personal style and the tension between self-expression and standing out 
• listener voicemails, why they matter to us and a quick check-in on video games 
• sewing ambitions, what to make first and dreaming about an Australia trip 
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Transcript

Studio Heat And Friendly Roasting

SPEAKER_02 0:04

It's like a million degrees in the podcast studio, and I am feeling like Matt really should have installed an air conditioner by now.

SPEAKER_01 0:13

That's true. I have no excuses. I have no.

SPEAKER_02 0:16

Your hair looks really good today.

SPEAKER_01 0:18

Thanks. My hair's really curling. I can't imagine the humidity in the studio toning that down at all.

SPEAKER_02 0:24

I feel like you've gotten your curls back. Your bounce is back.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

I got bounce back?

SPEAKER_02 0:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Bounce. But there's a song.

SPEAKER_02 0:31

Bounce when she walked. Oh no, not that's not what I was thinking of. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

But I mean that works.

SPEAKER_02 0:37

Last night took an L buttonada bounce back.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

That might be it. That might be what I was thinking of. Thank you for that.

SPEAKER_02 0:43

You're welcome. I was gonna go through everything I could think of with the word bounce until it was right.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

Bounce. Let me see you throw it back. That's Buster Rhymes, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Yeah, I don't know what you're doing, but that's okay.

Spotify Comments And A New Idea

SPEAKER_02 0:54

For the first time in months, I remembered that there are Spotify comments and I went through and read them all. Thank you for everybody that's been commenting because I had a ball reading everything. And something that has been a recurring request that I adore and think that we should absolutely get on. Is you all been asking for Matt to do his own episode where he just rants on whatever topic he's learning about. So for example, air sealing.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Oh, I have actually gone quite deep on what I would need to do to condition this studio the right way, a temporary solution, because again, there's an adjoining office space that I would like to install. I do think eventually it'll probably just be two separate units rather than one large unit that could cover both spaces.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

Cause we'll save it for your special. Yeah, that's fine. If you all would like to see that, comment and let us know or send us a message because I think that's a phenomenal idea.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

And when I pitched it to Matt, he was nervous about what it would look like to I could use somebody asking questions or like guidance.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

Just knocking along, going, uh-huh. Cool.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Yeah, yeah. Whenever I stall out, that's interesting. You could be my voice of natural questions that I'm not like covering clearly.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

Yeah, I don't give any input. It's just questions or uh-huhs.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

To be totally fair, my guess is it will be a level of in-depth that you're not gonna have a ton of input on. You're not like we've gone, we started past my depth, and we have just continued and sailed way past.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Yeah, yeah. So I think you'll have a good level of information to ask questions valid that may help the lay listener.

SPEAKER_02 2:37

Yeah.

June Chaos And Policy Tangents

SPEAKER_02 2:38

So we are in June. We're about halfway through June, which is the craziest month of May into June is the craziest months of the year for us. I'm learning that it might be that way for everybody, and then on top of that, we have all of the birthdays and Father's Day.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

Yeah. And we have a family that's just stacked up in May and June. Well, yeah. May too. We added another kid. He's in April, so he gets a and starts the ball rolling.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

Yeah. It's also end of school, I'm sure, in the United States, you know. I don't I don't know what people are doing in other countries.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

I don't either.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

They have different seasons, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

They probably start in January, which would make sense and go through.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

You think?

SPEAKER_02 3:20

No, but that would make so much more sense, would it not?

SPEAKER_01 3:23

If we started in January?

SPEAKER_02 3:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

When would we end? September?

SPEAKER_02 3:27

November.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

November?

SPEAKER_02 3:30

You could still get a summer break. You'd get a winter break and a summer break.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Oh, you're talking more of like a year-round school situation.

SPEAKER_02 3:36

Which seems like it makes so much more sense.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

That's my hot take.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

Rather than people having to try and figure out what to do with their kids for two and a half, three solid months.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

Right. If we had real, you know, paid leave and things like that. Sure, it would be fine, but we don't.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Yeah. Single payer healthcare. Lots of good ideas out there.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 3:59

I think socialism's gotten a really bad branding spin.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

Socialism?

SPEAKER_01 4:04

Yeah. Great, like not true socialism, but like socialist policies.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

They're basically just like we want to help everybody.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

Right.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Is on the face. But then people were like, it's socialist. And they're like, oh well, can't have that.

unknown 4:19

Right.

SPEAKER_01 4:19

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

Well, it's like too much of anything's bad.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

For sure. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

So like if you work from the end, it's like when people say that X, Y, Z is poisonous and you need to be so nervous about it. I'm trying to think of an example. I don't have one off the top.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

Are you thinking like in the health perspective where people are like you shouldn't eat, you shouldn't have diet coke? Because it has aspirin.

SPEAKER_02 4:41

Aspartane. That's exactly. Yeah. Like if people saying aspartame gives you cancer, it's so bad. And then you look at the actual research, and it does if you drink like 22 Diet Cokes a day.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

Five milliliters of pure aspartame and inject it every day for right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:01

I kind of feel that way about the socialist policies.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

It's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

I agree that it could be bad. Capitalism unchecked, also bad. We're back to capitalism.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

I do think the first one might have to be about capitalism.

SPEAKER_02 5:14

Damn it.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Okay. Well, we'll we'll get on that if you all say you're interested. What?

SPEAKER_01 5:19

I just ended up recording a parallel podcast.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

That's just like you ranting about capitalism. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Just capitalism? I don't know if I have enough to say about capitalism. I don't think I have an education deep enough in capital.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

You would get one.

SPEAKER_01 5:31

That's true. Via research. An honorary degree.

SPEAKER_02 5:35

I've got to open my drink because I saved it. You gave this to me like an hour ago. And I've been carrying it around with me. So it's I carried it around to get rid of the rug in the guest room. I carried it around.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Got the rug out of the guest room.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

I got the rug out of the guest room. Are you mad?

SPEAKER_01 5:51

No, I'm not mad.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

What's it look like underneath there?

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Uh wood.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

Yeah. Uh Red Bull sugar-free.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

Samsies.

SPEAKER_02 6:02

I it looks like wood. It looks okay. Uh there was an okay shape. Yeah.

The Dog Rug Problem And Old Memories

SPEAKER_02 6:09

Yeah. We have a guest room. We have one singular. It's our only guest room. I'm making it sound like we have one of one of our guest rooms.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

On our estate?

SPEAKER_02 6:17

Uh no. Our guest bedroom has this rug that we have had. We had it in our primary bedroom originally in our old house, and it was great. And when we moved, I put it in the guest room. And for some reason, our dog like attached on it and keeps marking this rug.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

It's basically a pea pad for him if we don't shut that door.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

And and our dog doesn't go in the house. That's the thing about it. No, he's pretty good. He is potty trained. He's six years old. Non-issue. And then after Bogie passed away, I feel like it has just been this ongoing issue.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

I've tried my best. I do really like that rug still. It's also been vacuumed a bunch. We've not really taken like ideal care of that rug for what it is. And it's getting Which we got it secondhand and it already home with dogs. It's getting axed.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

Yeah, it's it's done. And that uh floor is getting mopped thoroughly, and the room is gonna finally be clean again. It's gonna get bleached and mopped, and it's gonna get just the whole shebang because I can't. Yeah. I cannot. That's fair. It has truly stressed me out so much. I had a friend growing up that my parents let me go over to her house to play when I was in elementary school because she was our neighbor, like loved her, but they had and they had uh all kinds of pets that had a run of the house, like they had birds and cats and dogs, and nobody was taking care of anyone, and there was like feces and urine and you know, like just everywhere throughout the house, and it marked me. Like I have never This is actually explaining a lot.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

I don't know that I've heard this.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

Really?

SPEAKER_01 8:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

Oh, I think about it.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

You act like that's what our home is like.

SPEAKER_02 8:09

That's how I feel.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

It's not even close to accurate.

SPEAKER_02 8:12

That is exactly how I feel about it. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

Like I said, it explains a lot. Not that I feel like that we will never own birds, just to be clear.

SPEAKER_02 8:20

I don't feel like that that is what our home is like. But anytime a dog has an accident, or like when we've had puppies and stuff, it just takes me back to seeing that. And I that's fair. I felt for her. I still feel for her.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

That's yeah, it's not a good place to be. What were we talking about?

SPEAKER_02 8:43

Piss.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

Piss.

Ranking Swear Words And What Counts

SPEAKER_01 8:46

Yeah, our house is full of piss.

SPEAKER_02 8:48

I think of that as a bad word.

SPEAKER_01 8:49

Piss? Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's it's I think maybe the baddest way you can refer to urine.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

It it makes me uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

I feel like it's on the parallel or maybe slightly below data.

SPEAKER_02 9:00

Just speaking of my childhood as a whole.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

When I was a kid, uh, when I was in high school, I dated this kid whose dad was from Sweden, and that's what he always said when he was pissed off at his kid. He'd be like, You did a piss poor job. And that really stuck with me.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

Piss to me is right on the verge of where things become like a swear word. Okay. Like it's a little below damn. Like damn is definitely a swear word, but pretty light.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

You know?

SPEAKER_02 9:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

Like there's an actual meaning to damn.

SPEAKER_02 9:27

So it's like piss damn shit.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Yeah, I think there's things between damn and shit, but uh there are. I I don't know. Maybe not in the common usage. Okay. Piss damn shit. Fuck. Um.

SPEAKER_02 9:41

And then it starts to get pretty colorful.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

Yeah, it gets colorful unless you're not from the United States. The C word falls way below, you know. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

But well, I also think generationally they've they've rebranded.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

There is that too, but still, I think even generationally.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

What about bloody? Oh, hell.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Hell?

SPEAKER_02 9:58

Okay, wait, piss. Ooh. Piss.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Ooh, good question. Or hell. I think hell worse than piss.

SPEAKER_02 10:06

I think it's better.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

You think it's better?

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

Well, again, it's describing again, hell and damn are both like.

SPEAKER_02 10:12

What about bloody?

SPEAKER_01 10:14

Bloody's not a swear word.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

Like they use that a lot to emphasize things.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

Yeah, it's just emphasis, though.

SPEAKER_02 10:21

I don't think it's a like freaking, which I feel like is people just wanting to say.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Well, that's dodging an actual swear word. I don't think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

That's what I think of as when I hear okay.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

I think it's just like extra.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

Well, what's our extra then?

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Super. I don't know. I'm trying to think of what it would be.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Right?

SPEAKER_01 10:39

The parallel.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

I know when you start thinking about it.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Mega. No.

SPEAKER_02 10:46

Okay, wait. So hell piss.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Hell piss, damn.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

Damn shit.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

Yeah. I feel like this is gonna get flagged on.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

We're gonna mark this episode as explicit for sure.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

I think it's gonna get marked as explicit.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Well, we have to mark it explicit on our end, so make sure you do that. Ooh, you guys will be so excited to listen, and then you'll be so disappointed to find out that this is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

Swear words out of context, ranking them.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

Yeah, we were just ranking the swear words.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Yeah. Bastard. Where does bastard fall for you?

SPEAKER_02 11:17

Bastard.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

Again, a word that has an actual meaning.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

Nowhere.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

No, you bastard? That's definitely swearing.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

Really?

SPEAKER_01 11:27

What?

SPEAKER_02 11:28

What?

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Yeah. Bitch.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Bitch for sure. Bastard?

SPEAKER_01 11:33

Yeah, bastard. I'd say worse than damn.

SPEAKER_02 11:36

No. Yeah. No way.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

Used at someone? Definitely worse. Definitely worse.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

I think of that as something that really?

SPEAKER_01 11:46

Yeah. You bastard?

SPEAKER_02 11:49

Okay, but what context I'm thinking of it in is if we're in like a room of people and somebody overhears you say bastard versus That'll be a swear.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

What? Undop. Yeah. You're out of your mind if you think you can just be throwing bastard around and go to the kid's preschool and be like, man, he was such a bastard. That's crazy. Are you saying bastard a lot? I don't think you are. I'm not. I feel like I've never heard you say it.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

I'm not, but I had no idea. It was, I feel like I'm learning that bitch is a swear word all over again.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

What?

SPEAKER_01 12:24

Have you told that story?

SPEAKER_02 12:25

I don't know. When I was in like second grade, there was a book in our reading corner that had it was all about animals, and it had the scientific names for animals and whatever. And in the book, it was like a children's book, but it said female dog, bitch. And I was like, I said to my friend Cassie, I was like, Did you know that a female dog's a bitch? And she's like, She's like, You can't say that. And I was like, Oh my gosh, what?

SPEAKER_01 12:52

You're going to kid jail.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

Bastard. Bastard, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

It's definitely idea.

SPEAKER_01 12:59

Your parents like didn't swear around you.

SPEAKER_02 13:02

At all. Bonehead.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Bonehead. They did the classic. I feel like is that that's our parents' generation thing of like getting really creative swearing.

SPEAKER_02 13:11

Bonehead was really the only one that I feel like I heard regul regularly. Yeah. My dad, somebody would cut him off and be like, what a bonehead.

SPEAKER_01 13:17

That's what he used at people.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

That was his swearing.

SPEAKER_02 13:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

Man, I'm trying to think of all the good ones that my my dad would use.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

My dad really like my parents really didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

Cotton picking. That guy used a lot.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

What?

SPEAKER_01 13:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

That seems down. Now that I've said it out loud, it feels no, but it was oh.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

It was just kind of like bloody.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

What?

SPEAKER_01 13:41

Yeah. It does seem racist now that I've said it out loud.

SPEAKER_02 13:45

Very.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:47

But is it?

SPEAKER_01 13:48

No, it wasn't meant. Like it was like.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Well, no, I don't.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

Again, that wasn't used like at people. That was like used at like a frustrating.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

What did they use at people?

unknown 13:58

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

That's a great question. Man.

SPEAKER_02 14:02

Someone cuts him off in traffic. What does he do?

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Mark was a mark was a pretty like chill guy.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

That's what I do.

SPEAKER_01 14:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:10

I go, oh.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Yeah, I just swear openly.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

I don't believe in getting mad at people in traffic.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Oh. That's not in my car. Yeah. I I am.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

It doesn't do anything. It just makes the people in your car uncomfortable, which I think's a waste of time.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

That's probably true. That's probably true.

Driving Rules And Road Rage Risk

SPEAKER_01 14:28

I try not to go like too crazy with my own vehicle, but I'm keeping score.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

Yeah. I have a very defined sense of justice in the car.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

I feel like you could easily fall into road rage territory.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

I am uh, I would believe uh a high risk person for road rage. Yeah. I don't participate, and you have taught me a lot in terms of not exercising my anger in the car with the car.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Because it's it is not productive.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Unsafe.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

It's not safe. It's not productive. It is bad. But in always. I could be the person easily that has road rage. But I'm I'm more of a road rage in terms of like we need to all be following the rules. What do you what is that face about?

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Yeah, and whose rules?

SPEAKER_01 15:25

The rules of the state and the government.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

And how you translate everything.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

By the book.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Mm-hmm. Yeah. What what you're looking at me like I'm breaking a lot of things.

SPEAKER_02 15:35

I'm looking at the girl that's never been pulled over.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Okay. Speeding is one thing, but that's like the only traffic rule I break.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

Oh, so it's okay for you to break a traffic rule? And why that one? Why is that one less important than the others?

SPEAKER_01 15:50

Speeding is an individual. I'm talking about using our turn signals, when we should pass, where we shouldn't pass. The courtesy of using the lines, driving outside the lines to disagree with you that people should follow the rules. I feel strongly about the rules when I drive.

SPEAKER_02 16:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

It's just one of my things. Because we live in a society and we have to follow the rules. And once people are above the rules, everything goes to shit. That's how I feel about it. That's how strongly I feel about it while I drive too.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

Only when you drive. I'm thinking about every other rule. Everything else is a guideline to you. Have you ever seen you work with fire?

SPEAKER_01 16:28

That's not the law.

unknown 16:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

And how much do you trust the government?

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Trust them with what?

SPEAKER_02 16:35

The law.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

See, it's not about the government. I don't uh it's not about the government.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

See how you're switching things up every single time. You're like, the law's okay, the rules are not. Guidelines don't count, speeding, not real.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

They follow tons of guidelines as well.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

Oh, right. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

When it comes to driving, we all are participating. It's about a social contract.

unknown 16:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

I believe strongly in a social contract.

SPEAKER_03 16:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

And I think the only way to have an agreed upon social contract when driving is following the rules.

SPEAKER_03 17:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Yeah. People passing in places they can't pass, stuff like that. Drives me crazy.

SPEAKER_02 17:10

You could do an episode on this.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

I I probably could. I haven't really done any research and it's just like what grinds my gears. And so, yeah. You're looking at me like I've lost my mind.

SPEAKER_02 17:23

You're just very spirited.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

I this causes me to get spirited. People passing on the right hate that. I don't like that either. Yeah. Well, again, lots of things that people don't like, but when people do it, I don't like any of it.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

I don't have an issue. Like I feel like right now that you're saying that because I don't get elevated that I approve.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

Yeah, you just I have no way to judge how disapproving you are.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

Whereas with me You well, it's not my job to judge or be disapproving to those people.

SPEAKER_01 17:58

And execution, not execution.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

And they're they can't see or hear me again. So I just feel like it's misplaced.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

You have taught me some in that in terms of like they aren't gonna get it.

SPEAKER_02 18:10

So maybe stop letting it making my day miserable because somebody else.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

Now I try to more silently judge.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Yeah. It's not perfect, it's not a perfect system.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

As a past, hey, I am not, I would say I'm not an unsafe driver.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

No, you're a great driver.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

I'm not making any like I have not said.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

You're talking about me like I'm road raging around and cutting people off and trying to enforce the law out there like I'm an amateur cop.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

Can somebody check in and tell me if that's what I sounded like? Because I'm so confused.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

No.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

I don't even know how we got here.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

How do we ever get anywhere on this podcast? It's just right. We go where the wind blows.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Or where it doesn't blow, in the case of this studio. What have

AC Condensate Leak And Battery Anxiety

SPEAKER_01 19:01

we been doing this week?

SPEAKER_02 19:01

How we uh water came through the ceiling in the garage.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

That's true. Yeah, that happened. Found out. So when you have an air conditioner, uh it creates condensate. That condensate goes through a pipe and down out through the wall or somewhere wherever your condensate drain runs. You should probably know that if you have an air conditioner. Um if that condensate drain line gets plugged, it's supposed to like drip into a tray underneath your air conditioning unit, and then it fills up, and you should have a switch in there that is like, hey, you got water in the tray. I turned off your air conditioner, so it stops making water, which ours does have that. It just turns out it was sloped the wrong direction. So before it ever tripped the switch, it poured water out of the tray. So we have a small water feature. I got a visual indicator rather than the air conditioning turning off.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

So we had a little drip in the garage. Thankfully, it was in the garage because I feel better about patching a drywall ceiling in the garage than I would if it was like the pantry.

SPEAKER_02 20:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

That would have been annoying. The garage, I feel like I can take a swing at and maybe not do a perfect job. Maybe I'll just hang a panel light there.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

All options.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

Sure, yeah, all good stuff. I just was waiting for your reaction to be like, hell no.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

I don't care what you do in the garage.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

Got it. See, that's why it's good it's in the garage. She's like, whatever makes the drip.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

As long as you don't put a battery station in there, I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

I'm never gonna put the battery station in the garage, dude. Yeah, it's never gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

I know. I was just clarifying that I didn't think it was fair for me to say that I didn't care about anything. Totally. Because I have put up a big stink about it.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Yeah, you're basically like you can't even put nine volts out there. You can't even think about batteries in the garage.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Ideally, yes.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

Yeah. Just they're bad vibes.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Batteries scare me.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

Batteries are mysterious.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

That scares me more.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

Well, no, I mean they're not actually mysterious. There's like a very basic chemistry to them, but they're like complicated. I I remember learning about batteries in material science, and I was like, man, I I understand this is how it works. I just am not totally getting it. I've learned a lot of stuff. Electricity is funny, it's crazy. And then you're doing electricity with chemicals, like what?

SPEAKER_02 21:11

You could do a whole episode on that.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

I know, but I'd have to learn about it first. Otherwise, it's just me talking about how mysterious batteries are. And I can only do that for so long.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

That's true.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

Five to ten minutes tops. You've been sneaky sick. You had like a cold thing going on. Do you want the family?

SPEAKER_02 21:24

I didn't sleep enough for too many days and it hit me. And yes, I have a cold.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Yeah, a June cold.

SPEAKER_02 21:31

And I feel really bad. And it's a weird time to feel really bad. Why is that? Just being sick in June is strange.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

But like it's not a common you know, the summer cold.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

No, it's not even shoulder season, like shoulder? Shoulder season. Uh your falls, your springs. Like on the shoulders of the Maybe that's not why it's called that, but your shoulder seasons are on the edge of Your oh like summer, winter I've never heard of shoulder seasons.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

Okay, yeah, like it's a diamond.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

I guess so. I haven't thought about a shape.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Which one's the top and which one's the bottom?

SPEAKER_01 22:13

Summer's the top has to be Warmer rises. Everybody knows that.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Okay, that makes sense. I like that. What?

SPEAKER_01 22:20

I just made that. I mean, Warmer doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

When you said shoulders, I was imagining shoulders. And then I'm imagining, you know.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Like an Orion's belt situation.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

Yeah. Your mom got me that book on constellations. And I only read like 10 pages of it, but I have Orion like locked in. Orion's sword, how to get there. Probably not. I'll just know Orion really well.

unknown 22:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Always spot in it.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

I think you should keep reading it.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

Probably should, but then I feel like I might learn too much about constellations and then you could do an hour episode on constellations. That could be really annoying at night.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

I I don't think you're annoying. I find it very interesting to hear you talk about stuff.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

I feel like sometimes you get really annoyed though. Maybe it's just when we're doing the podcast and you're like, you can't do 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

I was about to say, where in our real life do I ever get annoyed when you go on teaching me about something?

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Well, it's probably more the timing.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

We're going somewhere and I'm doing a small dissertation.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

That's fair. There's a time and a place for everything.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

For sure.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

And I don't do good.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

I don't dislike listening to you at all. I love listening to you. Oh, thank you. I think you're very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

Thanks. That's very sweet of you.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

I don't have a chronically online this week. What? Am I fired?

SPEAKER_01 23:31

Uh I mean, you're not fired. You're on probation.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

I have barely been on the interwebs.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

Yeah.

SpaceX IPO And Wealth Inequality

SPEAKER_01 23:39

SpaceX IPO is today.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Oh, okay. Tell me more.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

They're they're gonna IPO SpaceX. It's they wanna tell us what IPO is. An initial public offering. They're listing it on the stock exchanges. I believe it's actually already like the Nasdaq lists early or something weird, but it's gonna go on the SP. They are gonna they're valuing it at like $2 trillion or $1.8 trillion.

SPEAKER_03 24:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Which is like a hundred times earnings, which is Bananas Town. Like nobody is valued at that, but it's Elon Musk, so his stuff isn't worth Tesla's valued on a gajillion times earnings, and that's just how he rolls.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

How do they do that? Does he just get to tell people it's worth this much?

SPEAKER_01 24:19

And then people believe in him or it's tricky because SpaceX has Starlink, which is a really it's like the best satellite internet product out there. And because they can launch their own rockets, they have basically a monopoly on launching rockets, they can do it cheaper and I wouldn't say better necessarily, but cheaper is a really big deal when it comes to launching rockets.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

So they have all kinds of satellites and do you ever wonder why our focus is on launching rockets when like kids can't eat? Or am I weird for that?

SPEAKER_01 24:53

Oh no, no, you're not weird for that, but that's just how especially the United States operates right now.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

Yeah, I'm like no paid leave, but we're shooting rockets into the air for what?

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Well, to be fair, SpaceX is a well, it was a private company, but can be publicly traded. It's a company rather than but that's the it kind of makes sense that like space launching stuff is a privately owned business or like a publicly owned business, but it's a business because you should be trying to do it cheaper. Whereas like NASA, when they launch a rocket, it can never fail because we have to be like super extra safe. Whereas with a company, you can take more risks and it's the risk is on the company rather than the public.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 25:45

Helps if they're not manned. You don't really want to burn up a whole bunch of people.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

We've done that before. That was not good. But you can flirt closer to the line of best value than if you were NASA, where they're like, yeah, we shouldn't cut corners for cost reasons because safety, and also if we blow up a rocket, then everybody's like, you wasted all this taxpayer money.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Of course.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Wasting business money is how business works.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

You gotta waste money to make money.

SPEAKER_02 26:15

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Everybody knows that.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

So you have a word of the week.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

Word of the week, you're like, get out of this. You're chronically online sucks.

SPEAKER_02 26:22

You digress.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

Well played, well played. Do you know pernicious?

SPEAKER_02 26:28

I don't know pernicious.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Okay. Pernicious. P-E-R-N-I-C. I o U S.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

Crushed it. Really?

SPEAKER_02 26:37

I would have been really good at this felling V. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

If they gave you pernicious.

SPEAKER_02 26:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

Having a harmful effect, especially in a gradual or subtle way. Like subtly harmful.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Okay. Trying to think of a good example. I'm trying to think of what's pernicious.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

Pernicious, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:02

Batteries.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

Batteries? No.

SPEAKER_02 27:05

They're really all at once. Like it's a utility. If they're bad, they're bad all at once. I don't think that's very pernicious.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

Yeah, I think it's more like if somebody's being helpful, but like to undermine you kind of deal. Now things can be pernicious in terms of like stuff, but there's a little bit of like an intent.

SPEAKER_02 27:23

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

I feel like when it's used.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

Okay. Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

It's more of a side effect. Like if it something that has a bad side effect, but maybe that they overlooked. Like a pernicious effect of opioids was how addictive they were.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

You know?

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

Or that maybe the people that were selling them were acting perniciously.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Pernicious.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

Okay.

unknown 27:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

I like it.

unknown 27:47

Good.

SPEAKER_02 27:47

What was last week's?

SPEAKER_01 27:49

Man, I never remember. I gotta start writing them down.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

It was uh I know Kismet was two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Yeah. It's we couldn't say it well, and then we made up a word with it.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

Oh no. Okay, never mind.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Here, I'll look. Maybe I have it one of my thousands of tabs. You're not a tabs girl. Sententious, right?

SPEAKER_02 28:10

Sententious. That is what it was. I liked that a lot. Haven't been using it. I should. No.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

Sententious. It's okay. It's okay. But what was this week's? Pernicious.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Pernicious.

SPEAKER_01 28:23

Pernicious.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

Sententious. Why do they're too similar?

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Yeah, that's fair. It's fair. I'll work outside of the.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

See how I remembered Kismet?

SPEAKER_01 28:30

You did remember Kismet. You're welcome. Pernicious, I feel like you'll do one in books.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

Pernicious. Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Like a villain will be pernicious.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

Maybe before you know they're yeah. Before they're like openly the villain. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. They'll be acting perniciously.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

Mom, uh, what am I? Mean mom? Bad dad?

SPEAKER_01 28:49

Uh uh, whatever you want to do.

SPEAKER_02 28:50

Bad mom, mean dad. I don't know what's happening. All right, bad dad, mean mom. I actually feel like this was maybe mean wife.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

Mean wife, interesting. Uh we're gonna broaden our scope into like how we No, this is like kid related.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

Okay, and I feel like it was mean mom, but I feel like mean mom, the the mean really was to you more than to the kids.

SPEAKER_03 29:12

Got it.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

And that is I let the kids draw with sidewalk chalk uh all over their bike.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

It's fine, it's not as bad as when they use sidewalk chalk to draw all over the house.

SPEAKER_02 29:24

I they asked me to, and I was like, you know what? Heck yeah, they wanted that. They wanted to decorate their bike, and I when they did try to decorate the seat, and I said, uh-uh.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

No seat because that's wheels and body only. Yeah, because we don't need just a booty of chalk.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

Yeah, chalk people act like chalk is so much more cleanable than it is out of clothes. It sucks. I hate chalk.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

That was me, mom. That's what I immediately thought of this week.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Got it.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

But we were out, we were having a good time. Yeah, they were decorating the driveway.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

They love chalk so much. They love chalk.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

Like we were having a great time.

SPEAKER_01 30:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

And they brought their bikes out and they're like, Mom, can we please decorate our bike?

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Yeah, I want them to be wearing like Tyvek suits when they use chalk.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Can you imagine how sweaty that would feel?

SPEAKER_01 30:10

No, I can't imagine how I like Tyvek suits are miserable when it's they probably just need chalk play clothes. Yeah. They're chalk fits.

SPEAKER_02 30:19

Yeah, these are chalk fits.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

Got it.

SPEAKER_02 30:21

We can put them in their lockers.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

Yeah, I was gonna say they probably should live like outside.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

Or we just strip them down when they play with chalk.

SPEAKER_02 30:28

Uh that feels sketchy.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

Because it's hard, like abrasive.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

Well, and sunscreen, they're out in the sun, and I just I don't think that's very safe.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

Uh, you know, chalk has minerals, it probably deflects the sun.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

We chalk them on purpose.

SPEAKER_02 30:48

He he uh follows the rules, guys.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:51

There's rules of society, and he thinks you need to follow them start to finish.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

Is there a social contract about sunscreen? Who you hurting? Individual.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

Your children. Matt doesn't believe in family social contracts only when it's with society.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

It's fine.

SPEAKER_02 31:08

Bad dad. That's a bad dad take, I guess. Bad dad.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

My kids, my yeah, tell they're 18, they can't protect their skin. Not without my say-so. No, um I'm not saying we shouldn't. I'm not saying we shouldn't use it. People not using it doesn't make me mad in the same way that people abusing their vehicle on the road does, you know?

SPEAKER_02 31:36

Do we have voicemails?

SPEAKER_01 31:38

Emails.

SPEAKER_02 31:39

Text messages.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

We might have something. I'll I'll find a way to pivot out of the chalk talk.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

Chalk talk? Chalk talk?

SPEAKER_01 31:45

We could have talked about the NBA finals for online.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Should we?

SPEAKER_01 31:49

Do we know any do you know anything about it? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 31:51

I know that Nix and four didn't happen.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

Well, that's true, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

And now they're saying Nixon five.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Nixon five is still in play.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:00

Feels like it's really captured the the media.

SPEAKER_02 32:06

Well, yeah. Which is people are spending outrageous amounts of money to go. Also that. Like it's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

Again, I go back to sending rockets into space and spending $80,000 on a seat to go see a game.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

Have we lost the plot?

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Well, I mean, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, it's a real haves and haves, not and I don't want to tell people they shouldn't go.

SPEAKER_02 32:28

It like it looks like a a blast.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Totally.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

But I'm like, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_01 32:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

I don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

Yeah, when you can buy a car for what it would take to go to one next game.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Like a two-hour game.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Yeah. What are we doing? Seems steep. Sports in general, expensive.

SPEAKER_02 32:44

But they're they're meant to be, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 32:46

I just they're meant to be for the people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

I'm feeling really sad about all those kinds of things.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

It's not great.

SPEAKER_02 32:56

Because it doesn't really feel like I don't know, it doesn't feel like we're on a good trajectory.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

We're not. There's a there's actually recovery. There's something called the genie coefficient, and it's super high right now.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

What does that mean? Tell me more.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

It's basically the distribution of where like wealth is. And when it gets too high, that's when back in the day you'd have like revolution where the people at the bottom have nothing and the people at the top have nothing.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

I don't know if we're capable of revolution. You'd think we're more connected than ever. But I think that the connection has made us able to be pushed down more and like argue with one another. Like it gives us more ability to you know.

SPEAKER_01 33:41

We've got a genie coefficient right about where the French Revolution was.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

Cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:47

So there are ways to manage it, like you know, a more progressive tax structure or a distribution uh to revitalize the middle class and whatnot, but we don't have to go full-blown revolution. But I mean you're open to it. Freedom Fighter, you've got the bandana on, you're ready to rock.

SPEAKER_02 34:08

I yeah, oh, does it look silly? No, I was trying to do something different and now I'm now I'm nervous.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

It's fun, just in this context, I felt like I could make a play on it. But now I feel really bad because it seems like it has shot right to your core.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

Well, I was trying to be accessory girl. Yeah.

Piercings Style And Self Alignment

SPEAKER_02 34:29

Because I got my seconds pierced or my doubles, as everybody says. Oh. I got my doubles pierced, and so I was trying to be cool accessory girl.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

How many things are named on your ear for like the piercing of it? All of them. Okay. What are they?

SPEAKER_02 34:43

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 34:44

These are your firsts then or singles?

SPEAKER_02 34:47

These are these are lobes, like just like a standard lobe piercing. Yeah. And then this is doubles, so there are two lobes.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

And then you can get triples. So it's just is that an actual location, or is it just kind of like it's like how many you have in your lobe, and there are different they do all kinds of different arrangements in your lobes. It depends on how much lobe space you have.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

Yeah, you have a real estate like consideration, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 35:14

Yeah. Some people like can't reasonably fit even doubles. Whereas some people have like five.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

And then all of these have different names and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

Got it.

SPEAKER_02 35:26

I don't know them.

SPEAKER_01 35:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

But I was like, I wasn't sure how deep in the no, but I know they have names because yesterday, while we were there, they were naming all the different things. And like when you get things pierced in the ear and around and got it.

SPEAKER_01 35:39

I would want like the dangliest earrings. I would really go big with it. I feel like feather? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:46

That jucks.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

Can you see it?

SPEAKER_02 35:50

Yeah, I can see it.

SPEAKER_01 35:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

Sometimes I wish that you would lean in and just style yourself how you want to style yourself rather than whatever you do. Because I feel like people don't really know you.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

Yeah, I play it pretty safe.

SPEAKER_02 36:03

I have felt that so strongly of I feel like I know you really well. And it gets really confusing when talking to other people about you because how you present and who you are are.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

I play it right down the middle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:18

Right. But I don't feel like does that make you feel out of alignment?

SPEAKER_01 36:22

Not too bad. Maybe I'm just too dissociated right now to really like have a grip on that. I try to play within like a confines of, you know, like I'm a father of three. Not that I try to make that my whole identity. It's just like I do have to go to like preschool and but what does that have to do with that? I don't want to like stand out and I don't want it to be like attention puller.

SPEAKER_02 36:43

I'd rather work But if you're not doing it for attention, if it's just like what feels in alignment for you, why would that feel I feel like some of it is for attention like on its own?

SPEAKER_01 36:53

Like to a degree how you dress is for observation. No, maybe not for I don't feel that way. Like it's an expression, but it's a visual expression, which means it's shared with everyone.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

But that doesn't mean that it's for attention.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

I'm not saying necessarily attention, but it is like observable. When you go somewhere in your clothes, you are making a statement of some kind, even if it's self-reflective. And so if you get if you have a loud statement to make that's gonna grab attention, you know?

SPEAKER_02 37:26

I don't think about it like that at all. That's really interesting.

SPEAKER_01 37:29

Yeah. And there's times. Well you're saying it's making sense. I'm not you don't have to. Sometimes in places where I like to grab more attention with it or like have a bigger statement, I think is probably the better way to put it. Because it's not about wanting it on me or not necessarily. Some of it is also how I feel in my body. So like I'm happier to make a statement that speaks loudly if I feel good about my body itself.

SPEAKER_03 37:56

Right.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

And if I don't, then I don't want to pull or speak loudly.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

So whereas when I think about it, I want to feel really in unison with how I perceive myself. Like I want to how I perceive myself. And it doesn't have to do with anybody else.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

Sure. I don't know that we're speaking completely differently.

SPEAKER_02 38:20

Probably not.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

Like maybe I I just don't have a good self-perception at this time. So I keep it basic.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

That's interesting. Give us a voicemail.

A Listener Voicemail And Video Games

SPEAKER_01 38:30

A voicemail. Voicemail, email, something.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

We have one voicemail. We're gonna play it for you.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

All right.

SPEAKER_02 38:36

And for us. We always listen to the voicemails live while we're recording, and I feel like that is such a choice.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

We can always cut it, you know. We have we have editing capabilities on this podcast.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

That's true, but what if it's something mean that like really throws me out of my groove?

SPEAKER_01 38:50

Then the podcast might just end really awkwardly.

SPEAKER_02 38:53

Fair enough. Fair enough. Just crashes into the ground, and we're just like I shouldn't even say that out loud because that's me putting that out into the world.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

No, it's gonna be so positive and wonderful because I mean it probably will be love us. We love us. We love people.

SPEAKER_01 39:06

We love us. That's probably what I think.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

It's all love here.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Probably need to be telling myself that we love us. All right.

SPEAKER_00 39:14

Hey Joe and Matt. My name is Jared. I wanted to call into the show to say that my wife, Katie, and I are big fans of the show. We listen every week. And the discussions that you guys have about parenting and relationships and neurodivergence. Oh, we make it a point to get together after listening to the pod separately to talk about those things ourselves. Um, so we really appreciate the things that you bring to the table and the topics that it allows us to you know have deep conversations about and checking in on a weekly basis about these kinds of things. It really means a lot to us, and we really appreciate what you're putting out there. So thank you for making the show. Uh and also, Matt, you're playing video games? Sounds like you said something about video games. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:02

That's so nice. Thank you for two listeners.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

I uh I don't think about men listening to the podcast. No, that's really cool that we got a voicemail from I I think that you have phenomenal perspective, and I really value and appreciate what you have to say. And I think that you being a voice is really cool, and I would love to have more men listening, but it does not even cross my mind because so little of my audience sure.

SPEAKER_01 40:30

My audience is mostly like when I do post online. Yeah, but thank you. That was yeah, that's really nice abundantly kind.

SPEAKER_02 40:37

I love that you all make time to come together and discuss and have something that you're listening to to bring up new topics that you may otherwise not be reaching for. I think that that's a really healthy and cool thing.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

Yeah, you guys sound um functional, super functional.

SPEAKER_02 40:54

But video games, tell them what you're playing, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 40:58

Oh man, I'm I'm playing mostly games on my phone. I uh didn't play FIFA this year, which is probably good for everybody involved. It's it's a game that has really perfected a way to sink tons of your time into it. Uh I play them so much more, especially now, like socially. Like it was it's was an opportunity to just catch up with like a couple of my friends that played video games. And so we kind of have to have a good game that we play together.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

All of your friends that you did that with had kids in the last couple years, so everybody's kind of taken.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

Like have fresh kids. Yeah. So it's um everybody's kind of on hiatus right now. And I don't get as much joy, especially playing like a lot of console games, just solo. There would have been a time where I had more capacity for that, but it feels too self-indulgent at this time. And I don't think I'm getting enough out of it to be like, yes, that's where I where I felt good spending my time. Totally. Even if it was fun in the moment, I'm like, yeah, there were better things I could have done with two hours of my day.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

Totally.

SPEAKER_01 41:56

FIFA's fun in terms of like it's competitive and they are very good at making it addicting.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

But do we have any text messages?

SPEAKER_01 42:03

Text messages, emails, uh, yeah, we probably have a couple. We have we have openings. We're we're very available for texts and emails and voicemails or whatever you want to send us. So if you're uh looking for our thoughts on things, fire it out there. We can get to you quickly right now. Act while the act while the act now this won't last forever.

SPEAKER_02 42:28

Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

I feel like I'm pitching things.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

A monster truck rally is coming to Springfield.

SPEAKER_01 42:35

Insufferable, the two of us.

SPEAKER_02 42:38

We'll sell you the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

Ridiculous. Oh, I was looking through and we missed a voicemail. Ooh, okay. I should probably comb through all of them and make sure I've gotten people. If you haven't had yours uh listened to, uh let me know. Or I'll try and find it. Or it shouldn't really be on you, I guess, but here's where we are. All right, another voicemail.

Sewing Plans And Australia Travel Dreams

SPEAKER_04 43:10

It's your old friend Sarah. Um just wanted to say fully support Matt's new hobby of sewing. I think there must be like a stem to sewing pipeline. Um I've also recently gotten back into sewing. I'm currently working on a um I cut up my wedding dress um because my son is getting baptized on the weekend. And like I'm leaving it's a last minute, so anyway, we'll see how it goes. But yeah, if you missed it, I'm turning my wedding dress into a baptism outfit, which will be fun. Um, I just wanted to say hi from Oz. Um And when are you guys gonna come on a trip here? Really need to do an Australian. It's not a Euro summer. I think you should do an Australian. Don't do summer. Do like a spring or a autumn because summer can be quite traumatizing if you're used to the humidity and heat. Anyway, we're gonna go. Um but fully support the sewing journey and would love to see more posts about it.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

Well Missy Sarah, come back and visit. We should go visit her.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

I do uh the journey that was that was a little while ago that we got that voicemail. I missed it, but uh it hasn't quite started. Any day now. Any day now, the any day Matt's gonna start sewing. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 44:48

You heard it here first. You had the sewing machine out.

SPEAKER_01 44:51

It's like yeah, no, it's like out.

SPEAKER_02 44:53

It moved yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 44:54

I have to get it right. Well, it moved because it was too close to the drip in the garage. Oh. Uh it might have gotten a little splashed, so I'm gonna make sure it's dried out on the floor. Yeah, that's smart. That's right. Which I have to clean it out anyway because it has sat for many years. But um love it. Yeah. Maybe today I'll inventory it and make sure I have everything I need to start my journey.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

That would be good.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

Yeah. Do we have thread? Yes. We have thread somewhere, right?

SPEAKER_02 45:17

Yes. I have an entire sewing kit somewhere, like a box of like in a box.

SPEAKER_01 45:23

Yeah. Nice. Nice. We might be ready to rock.

SPEAKER_02 45:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

Good.

SPEAKER_02 45:27

If you can find it.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

Well, that's the you know, life's about the journey, and we have a lot of journeys.

SPEAKER_02 45:33

Yeah, we do have a lot of journeys.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

So we're mostly journey. I guess that's appropriate though.

SPEAKER_02 45:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:39

Life should mostly be journey. Yeah, let's go. Australian? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

I'd like to go.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

It'd be great to go. On the plus side, we're used to humidity.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:47

And heat.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

It might be a little different.

SPEAKER_02 45:49

I'd like to go when it's nice, though.

SPEAKER_01 45:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:51

Especially if we're going to take all our kids.

SPEAKER_01 45:53

Yeah, that's true.

Wrap Up And How To Reach Us

SPEAKER_02 45:54

So. But on that note, leave us some voicemails. Text us some things.

SPEAKER_01 45:58

What should I be sewing?

SPEAKER_02 45:59

What?

SPEAKER_01 46:00

What should I be sewing? I'm going to do those pants.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

Our kids close.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 46:03

Me clothes.

SPEAKER_01 46:04

You close?

SPEAKER_02 46:05

You said for Mother's Day that you were going to, and that was now a full month ago.

SPEAKER_01 46:09

That didn't happen. That didn't happen.

SPEAKER_02 46:11

And then you said you were going to sew your Ren Fairfit.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Yeah, that that's probably for the best.

SPEAKER_02 46:16

And even when you said that, I wasn't like, yeah, commit. I was like, I think that that might be pushing it.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

I think the Ren Fair Fit was just kind of an idea I had. Yeah. It was a thought, a concept of a plan.

SPEAKER_02 46:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:28

That never You should do the pants though. Yeah, the pants need to happen. Like those will be cool.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_01 46:34

And she's only getting bigger. So it's nice to be able to have the ability to make them to size.

SPEAKER_02 46:39

Yes. You digress.

SPEAKER_01 46:40

I did. We digress. Yes. Oh yeah.

unknown 46:47

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

We're really bad about talking over each other on the podcast. We do our best, but it's part of our charm.

SPEAKER_02 46:55

I really try not to.

SPEAKER_01 46:57

Yeah. It's just how we talk. We always, we just we blend.

SPEAKER_02 47:05

We blend.

SPEAKER_01 47:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:06

Okay. Well, on that note.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

On that note.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

Love you guys. Leave us a voicemail, text message, and talk soon.

SPEAKER_01 47:13

Bye bye.

SPEAKER_02 47:14

Bye.