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KIM BECK (P.R.E.C) - Navigating Real Estate with Heart

• Julie Fairhurst • Episode 107

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I'm not in the real estate business. I'm in the experience business. 
Buying or selling a home is a pivotal event in most people's lives and, for many, a very emotional one. It marks a transition from one period in a family's or person's life to another.
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I look forward to being able to share my expertise with you and making this experience a pleasant and memorable one for both of us. And if we are lucky, a friendship, as many of my clients have ended up at my dinner table.

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Who Is Julie Fairhurst?

Speaker • Author • Business Strategist • Founder of Women Like Me

Julie Fairhurst is a force of nature disguised as a woman with a pen and a business brain built for impact. As the founder of the Women Like Me Book Program, she has opened the door for women around the world to share their truth, heal their past, and rise into their power. Since 2019, she has published more than 30 books and over 350 true-life stories — without charging a single writer a dime! Why? Because women’s stories deserve daylight, not gatekeeping.

With 34 years in sales, marketing, and successful business leadership, Julie knows how to turn storytelling into influence and influence into income.

Her mission is clear and unapologetic: break generational trauma one story at a time and help women elevate both emotionally and financially. She doesn’t just publish books, she builds brands, confidence, and possibility, giving women the tools to rewrite their futures, grow their businesses, and lift their families with them.


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Introduction to Women Like Me Stories and Business

Speaker 1

Hello everyone and thank you so much for being here. My name is Julie Fairhurst and I am your host, and you are watching another fantastic episode of Women Like Me Stories and Business. Now, today, my heart. I have such a fabulous lady that's with us today. I've known her for many, many years and I'm just so excited that she has agreed to come on and share her wisdom and all sorts of fun things. But I'm going to stop now and I'm going to let her introduce herself. So, kim Beck, thank you, darling, so much for being here. Can you tell us a bit about yourself?

Speaker 2

Thanks, julie. It's quite an honor to be here and to have been able to watch your progress segueing out of real estate and into what you're doing right now. It's an incredible journey you're on and I'm pretty tickled pink to say that I've been part of a little little part of it. So I'm with a company by the name of Royal LePage North Star and that's where we met and I started with the North Star office.

Meet Kim Beck: A Journey Through Real Estate

Speaker 2

I started my real estate career in 1992, working for a guy by the name of Ben Gower, and I'll never forget walking into his office. We went to, we were at the same church together. I actually bought my house from Ben I was a buyer with Ben and I thought, oh, I like the way, I like what he does and I like the way he's doing this and and went to his church and great support during the time. That, adam, which is the story that I wrote in one of your books, is the story of his open hearts, open and closed heart surgery and his, his tetralogy of Fallot that was diagnosed at day zero when he was born my first child and so I remember walking into Ben's office at Block Brothers we were NRS Block Brothers at the time And-.

Speaker 1

You're dating yourself.

Speaker 2

I'm dating myself Well, 33 years in the business, I'm dating. Oh no, for sure yes so I walked in and I saw all the bands, awards and I had no idea he was as good as he was and I thought I'm, I'm gonna be like him, I want to be like him. I one day want to have an office with all my awards in the back and on the wall. And I think you've been to my office and you see that's what I've got now, that I've got all my awards and that's when it started for me and the journey of helping people.

Speaker 2

Like our tagline with Royal LePage is helping you is what we do and sincerely believe that with my whole heart. When I come from a servant attitude, that I get to help people with most people's single largest decision in their entire life what they'll spend more money on than anything is real estate. Yes, and I don't sell a house. I help people navigate and manage a story.

Speaker 2

Long time ago I made an analogy. I thought you know, I'm kind of like a pilot and if I go to hawaii, I pay my fare and I do what I have to do to get on the airplane. I get on the airplane and sit back and probably have a glass of champagne and just trust I'm gonna get to mai. When, when they say I'm well, for the most part anyway, I don't. We don't think about what goes on behind that cockpit door. We don't think about air traffic controllers and I mean how to build all building, the whole mechanism to get you from A to B seems simple enough when you're doing that. So I compare it to real estate. It's like I'm your pilot and I'm going to navigate you to get from A to B. Whatever your story and your why is I'm going to get you through that process with as little turbulence as possible?

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's such a great analogy. All these years I've known you and I've never heard it. That's fabulous, kim. That is an absolute fantastic analogy and I think that people sometimes don't realize everything that real estate agents come to the table with and what they can help with and how important it is to like new realtors are great because they they're you know. You know let's get up that energy going and stuff, and it's good and it's good, but there's nothing that can be said for 33 years of experience no you know, and just navigating those waters are so, so, so important.

Speaker 2

And you don't know what you don't know. I mean, I'm ever learning, I'm 33 years in the business and there's always something coming up. I'm going wait, wow, okay, and you just don't know what you don't know.

Speaker 1

And that's the thing. And we don't even know what we don't know. I love that.

Speaker 2

We're just walking around and that's the thing.

Speaker 2

And we don't even know what we don't know. I love that, but there's a whole lot of things I do know because I'm so long in the business. Yes, I'll never forget one story of a. He was my accountant and, uh, he was very particular, very particular. He's an accountant, so he's very, very particular about his way of being. And he said Kim, I just want to use you. We're purchasing a house in Vancouver and it was on a it can be corridor and you know there are older, older homes in there. And walking the property with the listing agent and we're I think we were doing our inspection, I can't remember, but I was there and in the back corner of the property there was this little pipe that stuck out of the lawn and I said to the listing agent I said have you checked for an oil tank here? And she didn't know what I was talking about. I said no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2

And so my accountant, who had no ID either. I said no, we are gonna stop this whole thing. We'd wanna get a survey in here to figure out if there's an oil tank in here. And if there's an oil tank, we're gonna find if there's ingress into the ground, if it's a biohack.

Speaker 1

Anyway we wrote our subject removal and we wrote uh another subject stating that the seller was going to uh manage and take care of this ended up costing the seller I think at the time it was 75 000, you know kim, I had a almost not exact but very similar situation where I sold a house in chilliwack and there was a oil tank there and nobody knew about it, and so we wrote in the contract to get it to come out and it wasn't as expensive as your situation, but it was $30,000. And just as and again, it's those things that that we need to watch out for for our clients.

Speaker 2

Well, and again, it was just a notice, it was a walk by notice. I'm like wait a minute here, Wait, you know what? This is right. This is a little spigot. That is about this. Far out of the ground it's a little metal thing that's a freaking oil tank.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, For sure, yeah, you know. I would like to ask you if you could give a little bit of advice, because there's a lot of agents out there that struggle. I take a look at the real estate boards and then I take a look at so, for example, I'm just trying to think here. I was looking at the stats for last year and let's just say, for example, chilliwack had 800.

Speaker 1

Oh, I think it was the month, so I think Chilliwack board had 800 sales but, they've got 2,600 realtors and probably a lot of those 800 sales were done by not just 800 realtors, Maybe it was only done by 600 realtors and they did more business. So people struggle and and a lot of people leave the business. What, what, what kind of advice can you give if you were, somebody was sitting in front of you saying, Kim, what, what, what should I do? Help me out here.

The Importance of Experience in Real Estate

Speaker 2

Yeah, um, there's so many levels of what you can do, but the simplest one is to get a mentor. If you're thinking about getting into the business, got to. If you're thinking about getting into the business, got to figure out why you're getting into the business. If you think it's easy and there's all kinds of money to be made and you get free time, um, think again, because that's not reality. Sure, you have flexibility and choice, no ifs, ands or buts about it. No one's telling you what to do, you. You don't get to leave at five o'clock and and leave your work behind you. Your work is with you.

Speaker 2

I was just in in, happened to have a pre-blast, was in Rome and we took a bullet train to Florence for the day and went to wineries and happened to be on days like days and nights and I got to sell a property. Go on to Florence and I got to sell another property, two different clients coming home and it doesn't stop. So if you think it's money and time off and it's just not, so, your why for getting into real estate has to be really clear and you have to be coming in with your eyes wide open and it's also like starting a business. You've got to have some liquidity in your bank account Because by the time a deal closes, first of all you've got to get a deal on the books by the time it closes. You're looking, let's pretend, let's pretend you're lucky. I mean, you and I both know someone who's been in the business now for a year, very well connected in his neighborhood. Took him a year to get his first deal. So you think about how much money you've got to float and how expensive it is. You've got office fees, you've got setup fees, you've got board dues and and so education, education, it's not for the faint of heart, no.

Speaker 2

So my first conversation would be why are you doing this? Like I say with everyone, the why is so important in any given story, whether you're buying or selling real estate, whether you're changing careers or getting into an alternate path, why? Why? The second one for a new realtor is go to work for a veteran agent that might be winding down. Maybe there'll be a potential that you could buy their business, their book of business.

Speaker 2

Giving starts the receiving. So if you give of your time and mentally don't think about the money, because you're going to get trained and you're going to get educated by shadowing this person. That's exactly what I would do and the thing I think that, if I look back on my career, I think one of the mistakes that I've made, one of the things I wish I would have done yeah, nothing is a mistake. I wish I would have done better at following up with the people that already know me and love me.

Speaker 2

So my database, my lifetime referral system because now I do my stats and my numbers and 82% of my business is repeat and referral comes from my lifetime referral system and had I done that when I was doing project marketing and sites and I'm selling 200 lots and homes over at Cedar Grove or 150 townhouses in the Orchard Park if I would have taken those people that you know I always have fun too. That's a big thing for me. If we're not giggling and laughing, and you know that, then I'm out. So, yes, and most of my clients become my friends and they sit at my dinner table they do.

Speaker 1

I've seen it, I have seen it with my own eyes. They're very you, you just and and that's something that I didn't do much with with my I've got a few clients that even today I still, I still chat and we have a glass of wine when we're in the neighborhood and stuff. But you take people under your wing. I do yeah, and it's, and you make them and, and, and you don't do this. I don't, I mean, obviously, it just natural for you. You, you know how to make people feel good.

Speaker 2

I'll never forget one time at the one of my biggest compliments. Well, I've had a few big compliments, but this was. I was working for a company by the name I think it was um Dale Barron. At the time um branched off from uh Park Homes or Polygon, one of the two, and he opened a company by the name of Morningstar Homes and we were doing a set of his first single family homes down in Rosemary Heights and there was a land baron I don't know if you remember the name, olga Illich.

Speaker 2

Now she was the Illich family out of Richmond. She was held in high regard and respect. I'd never met her before, I just always heard about this family. And Dale Barron came to me one Monday after open house on the weekend and he said you got a good compliment this weekend, kim. And I said, oh really, and he goes. Olga Illich came into our open house and I didn't know who she was. Yeah, and Olga came back to Dan and said Kim or Dale. Kim is the best girl in open houses that I've ever met and my business partner was there and he says, yeah, the moment someone walks in, they automatically love her and trust her and cause she's all about them and figuring out if something that she has and if she can help, and so I think that I took that really to heart and, uh, I've never met her.

Speaker 1

I never met any of them and I think it just comes natural, like people you know it's when you do that.

Speaker 2

So so I.

Speaker 1

I. What I tell new salespeople is that it's got to be 80% about them, 20% or even less about you. If you go to the table and you sit there and all you do is talk about yourself, you're dead and and you're boring them, and they don't really want to hear it. They want to hear about them. And so you and I think that you have to really love people and you have to be interested in people for it, to.

Speaker 2

Actually, I really am interested when I start asking questions, when I tell it people with questions I'm seriously a curious cat. Yeah, I'm interested to know, it's my nature. And so then you couple that with a bunch of education and a bunch of hard knocks because sure, I've been brought to my knees a handful of times in my business and learning perspective and putting things. It's been a real beautiful evolution. I think I'm way better person today than I was when I started in the business because of the business.

Speaker 1

Absolutely. You know, I of course I've retired now I've been retired for a year but but you know, I was in it a long time and I can. I helped a lot of people and the other day, I don't even know why I was thinking about it, but I started thinking about this one particular client that that really needed help and I was able to get them to where they needed to be and I just thought that I don't know why, it just popped into my head but yeah, you have to. You have to love people.

Speaker 1

This is a people business and if you don't love people, well, maybe do the commercial stuff.

Speaker 2

Yeah, no kidding, no kidding. Well, I used to do, and I've actually started them back up again but for a period of time I did client parties and I would. There is a-year window that I took out of langley restaurant. I booked it out on a monday because I think they were closed on monday. It's a greek restaurant because you know, I'm married to a greek and I love greek food.

Speaker 2

Galinis, we go to galinis and I'll forget my sister-in-law saying to me one time um, she goes. Everyone that came in that door, kim, was super happy and then she was shocked because I think at the time, I think I had well over 100 people. I bought them dinner and drinks and give them right home and we had a bouzouki player and all kinds of good food. It was super fun. Just a client appreciation, that's, you know, saying thanks for referring me and for using me and trusting me, and blah, blah, blah and.

Speaker 2

And her comment was everyone that came in was so happy and seemed to love you so much and I'm like, well, that's why I do my job. Yeah, that's why I do my job. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I'm sure that the residual is awesome. Yes, of course, um, but I do it because I get such a and and you know I'm in a not a happy situation right now and when I get to one of my reprises, one of is going to work and being able to feel the gratitude and love that when I get to help someone with such a large process.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 2

It is so fulfilling. It's so fulfilling.

Speaker 2

What do you see for your future, kim? I'm gonna die in my boots. I mean I think, you know, I, I've, I've, I'm pretty blessed. I mean Bill has has a pretty, pretty good journey ahead of him. And everyone says to me, well, well, when he's, you know, are you going to retire? I'm like, I don't think. So I have that little window.

Navigating Challenges: Real Stories from Real Estate

Speaker 2

We've got a house in Arizona, as you know, and so there was a period of time where I was, you know, I was just resting on my laurels and not doing a lot of business, and I was down there a lot and I thought, okay, what do we have to do? Go golf again. And I'm like, oh, it sounds like a little bit of a spoiled brat, but it's about purpose, and so I I sure you know I'll, I'll be. I want to probably structure it so that it's not all on me. So now I have an assistant right now. So I haven't had an assistant.

Speaker 2

I've Michelle for two years now, three days a week. I'd like to get her five days a week and I would like to take on and I'm helping that other agent we talked about, you know to mentor someone that I've got legs on the ground, boots on the ground, someone that actually is new and hungry and excited and all that kind of stuff, that that I can be in Arizona or I can be in Europe, I can be doing whatever we're doing together, bill and I, and still be able to get that. This is a little selfish here, but still be able to get that emotional reward from navigating a tough story and getting someone what they want.

Speaker 1

Yeah, navigating a tough story and getting someone what they want. Yeah Well, and, and you know it's, and I think this is the biggest thing that people don't, you know the general public doesn't realize, is that it is a 24, seven day, like 24 hours, seven day job. You, you never, you are never off, even on an airplane. You are, you are not. You, even on an airplane, you are not, you're just unless you have a staff. But even I have staff and I remember standing on a beach with my cell phone in Jamaica.

Speaker 1

I'm standing on a beach, with my cell phone in Jamaica, with my cell phone in Jamaica, and I'm walking my assistant through because people were supposed to be out and she's standing, and she, they're standing there with her little puppy and a moving truck and there's a house full of furniture and they're like oh well, we told our realtor we're not leaving until such and such.

Speaker 2

I had that happen to me, julie and I. I had, I was, I, I had 911 called, I had the cops there. I don't know if you remember that story, but that was my cellar and we had done an addendum up for possession.

Speaker 2

I do remember that I do and and uh, oh yeah, no, it was not good and it was just in November. I was just in Maui and I was right at Fleming Beach and I spent the better part of three hours navigating a deal, yep. And so, and I'm not complaining, oh, boo hoo, you know some people are, I'm not.

Speaker 1

Yeah no, I'm not complaining even about standing on a beach, but but my purpose in telling people that is is that it and and for new realtors coming in, it is. It's not weekends off, and and what I say to people is, the more successful you get, the harder it is.

Speaker 2

I say to my friends they oh, it's Friday, tanya's, oh it's Friday, I'm going well, friday is my Sunday. Yeah, it doesn't work this weekend, Like. No, I'll see you on Wednesday night because Wednesday night is my Friday. I take.

Speaker 1

Thursday, Friday off. That's right. That's right. Hey, kim, I have five fun questions that I would like to ask you so that people that are watching or listening to us can get to know you a little bit better. So are you okay with that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So what is your favorite book that inspires you in business or life?

Speaker 2

you in business or life, oh man. Well, what's my read right?

Speaker 1

now. I'm reading right now never split the difference.

Speaker 2

But uh, I've got that, I love that. Love that, yeah. And and the other one that hits top right now is atomic habits. That's narrated, that's an audiobook that I've got. It's narrated by the author and he's next baseball player. So those two books are the books like I and I'm. I'm a, I like to read. I've got lots of books, you know I. So the the never split the difference. And atomic habits, yeah, top of mind, right.

Speaker 1

So good, good, those are great books. Okay, if you could have dinner with any woman in history, who would it be and why?

Speaker 2

oh, there's two, okay, mother Teresa and princess Diana. Oh yeah, you know what mother Teresa says. It said if you want to change the world, go home and love your families. Oh, I'm gonna cry, oh yes oh, you gave me shivers.

Speaker 1

You gave me shivers. That's beautiful. Yes, I actually haven't heard that quote from her, but that's a beautiful quote, absolutely yeah, yeah. And then why, princess Diana?

Speaker 2

Because of her struggles and journey and her destitute and how so many, I think, of us women are so hard on ourselves. Yes, and she was, for me, the epitome of someone who was so hard on herself. Yet she had so much and she couldn't see herself through the eyes that we saw her, or I saw her, her beauty, her resilience, her, her, just her, just everything. And and the tragedy that fell with her. Yeah, I wish, I wish we, as women, could see ourselves through our girlfriend's eyes.

Speaker 1

Oh, kim, that's beautiful. I'm going to write that down. I'm going to use that. That's a beautiful one, you're right, yeah, you're right. Oh, that's wonderful. Okay, what's your favorite way to unwind after a busy day?

Speaker 2

Oh, burn, burn, burn, burn, bruise mark cattle. One martini, I'm having trouble saying it, I'm laughing at myself, but that's the first thing that comes out of my mouth. That's okay. One martini, yep, yeah, that's okay. It's a little roll of thought with that good vodka and really cold yeah has to have a twist.

Speaker 1

Yeah, okay, and um well, do you have a favorite motivational quote that keeps you going?

Speaker 2

giving starts the receiving. Um, and that is, uh, I'm part of the coaching program with Richard Robbins international and I can't, I can't remember if I, richard, stole that from someone or if that's his. If it's his, it's a beautiful life. And giving starts the receiving. I mean, when I get into a little funk I ask myself am I giving? Am I giving or I'm expecting to receive? Like, where is my perspective? And the moment I shift it back to serving and giving, I'm okay.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, it takes. I think it takes the spotlight off of you're putting it on yourself and your issues and focusing on other people. And I agree I think that's the biggest. One of the biggest healing things there are in the world is helping other people, helping them through those struggles.

Speaker 2

So you know how there's a double-edged sword there, right Getting started receiving because we all like, like, I like my money, I don't have a bad money Like, I think it's the best thing, I think it's and I want lots of it. Yahoo Abundance, and you know the little buzz that's going on right now which I think is really interesting is the mel robbins let them, yes, yes, let them book and the let them theory and, and you know that that whole realizations of letting go. But in her book then what I'm noticing that people are missing is the flip side of the let them is the let me.

Speaker 2

Yes, that if there's something that's happened that doesn't work for you and you let them and you want a different outcome, then it comes back to you, onto the let me. Yes, that's my responsibility in this. How am I going to navigate this? How am I going to show up? Am I feeling left out? Do I want to go and make the phone calls to those she talks about her girlfriends when she saw them? So you know, there's always with these really good quotes, there's always a flip side of of responsibility benefits, something that you know ultimately, because we're we're human, yes, um, I'm not, I'm not mother Teresa.

Speaker 1

well, you know the thing is is that, is that, and I'm not Mother Teresa. You know the thing is is that, and I'm with you. There's no. I love money, and money to me allows me to do all sorts of fantastic things not just for myself and my family, but my community and for other people, and so it is.

Speaker 1

It's oh, I have a cat up here. Oh, I was going to say go away. So yeah, so it is. It's oh, I have a cat up here go away. Um, so yeah, so it's. Uh, we need to have a better relationship around money, absolutely as especially as women. Okay, let me ask.

Speaker 2

I want to tell you a funny story about where I was able to wrap my head around the concept of money oh, I love your kitty tail. So it was when I read and everybody's got a financial blueprint right, we all, we all come from a story of money and and whatever that looks like, and being able to navigate and figure out what your blueprint is and if it serves you or if it doesn't serve you. Um, it was with Harry Potter. So when I read Harry Potter, so when I read Harry Potter, you know how they have the language. Grignot's is the bank and Galleon's and whatever, all language that is completely foreign. Yes, yeah, so I, as I was reading that, I thought, okay, here's a concept here that's really cool.

Speaker 2

So I do believe in the universe and I believe that you know what you put out there comes back and and appreciation. And so I started years and years ago when Harry Potter came out, I, I started my cause. I've been bankrupt, I, you know that's a whole different conversation, right? So, um, and I remember I had a bad relationship with money at scarcity mentality and and and didn't appreciate it. So when I realized that the universe actually doesn't understand the currency like I didn't appreciate it. So when I realized that the universe actually doesn't understand the currency, like I didn't understand the currency of Harry Potter it was different language.

Advice for New Agents in the Business

Speaker 2

What's a yen or a check or whatever? So when I would see a penny on the ground, I would pick it up and thank the universe, anything that had value a pop can or whatever. If I got a penny or two cents or five cents returning a bottle, I would say, oh, this is worth something. I'm going to pick it up, I'm going to appreciate it and deal with it the way that I'm showing it respect. And the moment I shifted my thinking, I became blessed.

Speaker 1

Yeah, we have to be grateful for what we have, even if it's finding a penny on the street, Kim, and I love that you use that told us about what you do, because sometimes there's people who don't have much, of course and we all were there at one point but they don't have much, and so then they think, well, what could I be grateful for? But that just goes to show you could be grateful for the penny that you find on the street.

Speaker 2

Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1

And that can change your, change your life. Yeah, yeah, it really can. So thank you for sharing that. That was beautiful. Ok, this question might question, might be a red herring.

Speaker 2

I don't know, like my glasses, my red herring glasses.

Speaker 1

Okay, yeah, okay, here we go. If you could travel anywhere in the world tomorrow.

Speaker 2

If I could travel.

Speaker 1

Sorry, I didn't hear the first part of the question. If you could travel anywhere in the world tomorrow, where would you go and why?

Speaker 2

Oh, my goodness, that's an easy answer Cooking school in Italy, umberto's cooking school in Italy, drinking wine, riding a basket with my baguette to my bottle of wine and going up to my cooking class.

Speaker 1

I love that. Oh, I should have known. I should have known, because you've always wanted to go to cooking school.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, I've got this fabulous book. Now I don't know if you've heard of it. I hate new screen screens. Bucket List Journal, the Impossible's Ben Neiman, you should Google him. I'm going to. Yeah, do, because he's actually got. I think they've got a movie coming out with netflix. To be honest with you, oh oh yeah. Yeah, I saw my one of the royal page. You know how they always do great things with royal page you know, keynote speakers anyway, but in my bucket list journal that that is like number one, uh-huh.

Speaker 1

Well, and you know it's true, you write it down. You have a motion for it and it will happen.

Speaker 2

You've got to set a time frame. And it's got to be, you've got to have.

Speaker 2

And it's the little baby steps that get you there. You've got to figure out. If it's the little baby steps that get you there, yeah, you're gonna figure out if you're whatever, your choices are. And that's the atomic habits conversation. I don't know if you've read the book, but it's awesome. I haven't read it, but oh, it's good. It takes you right back, breaks it right down to the you know, okay, if I want I've got this big monster goal to break it down. Um, what are the things that I have to do on a daily basis? Yeah, so for me, I probably need to put money away and not touch it. Yeah, and I'll get over to Italy, to Umberto's cooking school. Yeah, yeah, well, cam, this has been a wonderful conversation I've had so much fun.

Speaker 1

Well, cam, this has been a wonderful conversation. I've had so much fun. Not only fun, but you've also had some really good lessons and quotes, and just it was wisdom. Wisdom shared by others. I don't know how many men watch our videos. I know there's a few, but I know we have a lot of women and I think that you know what you've shared today is going to be so helpful. So thank you so much for being willing to do this.

Speaker 2

I appreciate it. Thank you for asking me, Julie. Always fun to spend time with you, Even if it's on Zoom and we're not drinking a glass of wine together.

Speaker 1

So, kim, in closing, is there anything at all that you would like to share, any wisdom you want to share with anyone who might be watching or listening?

Speaker 2

Wow, this is your chance, baby. Oh man. Well, if I could say anything about my journey and pain that I'm going through and that I'm living right now, that is seemingly infinite. I guess it's just one day at a time. Just breathe, just breathe and move your body. Get out for a walk.

Speaker 1

I love that. Simple, simple. Yeah, it doesn't have to be overly complicated, it can be just the simple things in life. Well, thank you, kim, again so much. Hopefully you'll grace us with your presence another day as well, and thank you all for watching and listening to us, and we will see you at the next episode.