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Alexandra Goldwell: Releasing Ancestral Trauma

• Julie Fairhurst • Episode 155

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Alexandra Goldwell brings a rare combination of expertise as a therapist, clairvoyant healer, educator, and cancer survivor to this profound conversation about healing generational trauma and reconnecting with our body's wisdom.

From her early days studying psychology at 19, Alexandra has been driven by essential questions about suffering and healing that led her to explore diverse modalities worldwide. When confronted with stage four cancer, she faced what she calls a "pinnacle test" of everything she'd learned, choosing to approach her healing journey in a way that would ultimately serve others.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn as Alexandra explains how suppressed emotions manifest as physical ailments. "Any suppressed parts of ourselves end up getting twisted up and coming out in inflammation somewhere in the body," she explains. This emotional suppression traps our life force, leaving many people merely seeking ways to "keep going" rather than truly thriving.

For women especially, Alexandra identifies deeply ingrained ancestral patterns of prioritizing caregiving above personal needs. When asked what they need, most women "look like deer in headlights," having rarely considered the question. Breaking these patterns not only heals ourselves but ripples through future generations, affecting "the whole web of humanity."

Alexandra's healing approach combines traditional therapy with remarkable energy reading abilities that developed over her 25-year practice. She describes seeing thought patterns as spinning wheels and blockages as gray or clumped areas in a person's energy field. By identifying these patterns and their origins, she helps clients release them surprisingly quickly, allowing energy to flow freely again.

Whether you're struggling with anxiety, fertility challenges, or simply feeling disconnected from your purpose, Alexandra's compassionate message offers hope: "Be more gentle with yourself. You are so loved because you are love." 

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Women Like Me Stories in Business. I'm your host, julie Fairhurst, and today I have Alexandra Goldwell with us, and this lady's very interesting, so I hope that not even hope. I know you're going to get so much value out of this conversation that we're going to have. She's a therapist, a clairvoyant healer, educator and a cancer survivor, and she brings a unique blend of science and soul, helping people release inherited trauma and reconnect with the wisdom of their bodies. We're going to talk about her journey through stage four cancer and what she's doing to help not just women but everybody in the world. So, Alexandra, thank you so much for being willing to come on the podcast and talk with us.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, Julie. I love being here, I love what you've done for women and knowing so many stories that have been shared through you. So thank you.

Speaker 1:

Well, thank you. Okay, so I'm going to jump in with our first question, because you've got quite a background. So your journey? It encompasses therapy, teaching, healing and overcoming stage four cancer. So what thread do you feel runs through it all? So what's your core truth that's guiding you?

Speaker 2:

through all this. Yes, yes, that's a great question. I love it Really. The thread since going into psychology at age 19 was how can I make a difference and what is the nature of suffering and why is there suffering on the world? So those questions really fueled me for decades and I've learned many things about those questions and studied. That's why I was so interested in studying different things around the world cultures, other forms of healing, religions and it informed my healing, my own personal healing and freeing my own stuff, my own inherited things, my ancestral stuff and it informed me as first a youth counselor for many years and then a somatic therapist for the few decades after that.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that is really a that's a great, great, great background. So when you confronted your cancer diagnosis, you called it a pinnacle test.

Speaker 2:

Well it was. I mean, all I had learned about healing the body and why suffering is created, like if it was an emotional issue or any kind of discord in the body. I'd healed things earlier in my life and trusted in my body's wisdom. So when I had this diagnosis, first of all it was very shocking, but of course I took it as a message Like what is the message here? And me as a healer, why me?

Speaker 2:

After the diagnosis, I did go home and ask that very question and sat in the dark that day it was winter solstice and sat in the dark until I had an answer.

Speaker 2:

I was used to meditating for hours, so that was no big deal. I think I sat there for a few hours and had some tears and the answer was really because you will do it differently, as in my own way, and speak about it, and so I thought, okay, well, there must be some way. This serves people and obviously everything I go through serves me and my family as well, ultimately towards my own freedom. You know being more of myself. So it was a pinnacle test of all I'd learned about healing and integrative healing, and certainly a test of faith in my own relationship with God and I use all sorts of names for God because of my studies and teaching and world religions, but my own relationship and faith and it was tested that over and over again and then it was a test of my own, like fortitude and my will, and how much did I want to live and be here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, wow.

Speaker 2:

It was everything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, so how? So you know, I I'm certainly not an expert in this field at all, but I do believe that our emotions can make us very sick. Yes, and so what can we do about that? You do something called root cause readings.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So there's many ways to talk about this and we could talk about this the whole episode, because suppressions of our emotions, any suppressed parts of ourselves, end up getting twisted up and coming out in a pattern that's often not helpful for us, or coming out in an inflammation somewhere in the body or a pain or a recurring digestive issue or who knows what. So it's just a repression, and both emotions and thoughts can be repressed, and when we have a lot of repressions, it represses our own life force and our vitality. You know our physical will to do stuff too, and then we're just seeking, like, something to keep me going, which you know, and many, many people in the world are doing that. Just give me something to keep me going, like I'm tired. But the more that emotions are released, the more vital life force is circulating in the body, because it's essentially just trapping your own life force.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

So what can we do? What we can do is honor those emotions again and again, and again and look for them proactively, like what do I need right now, or have I been paying attention to myself this week? Or people are often run off their feet with their jobs and families, and that kind of lifestyle is encouraged in our world.

Speaker 1:

It's really encouraged.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of just the norm, oh yeah, so busy, like, oh, the kids are doing this and God work, and then that's just kind of such a common language. But that is not health. And I think our whole world, certainly our Western culture, we're really at a point where it's time to understand what is health, what really serves our soul, what serves our heart. There's a lot more than keeping busy and getting to do the next thing or some. What is it all for? So, the more we pay attention to the emotions, that teaches us, our own needs, that teaches us.

Speaker 2:

But our soul, like, what is my soul and what is it trying to tell me? And people don't have to follow any tradition, certainly, or use a name if it's uncomfortable for someone, but your soul is always calling to you, always, I agree. For for someone, um, but your soul is always calling to you, always, I agree, yeah, it just takes some like training and kind of time, quiet time, what, however? Each person gets their own quiet time to listen to. That. That's really where the meaning and, ultimately, joy in life come from.

Speaker 1:

Wow, I, I, yeah, I think that so many of us and I just loved what you, what you said about the busyness yeah, it's, it's almost like if you're not busy, what's the problem? Yeah, you should be. Yeah, and, and I know for myself, I burnt out from my previous position, uh, a job that I did for 34 years, and I just got to the point where I was so burnt out I would, I was stuttering, oh, just, it was so bad and I knew, I knew I, I'm done, I'm done, and um, but, but, but you're so right because I was super successful yeah, wow and everybody yes, and it feels like, well, this must be the thing, this must be what.

Speaker 2:

I may as well keep up with this. This has worked, yes, but it hasn't fed the soul you know exactly, Exactly, and I think there's a lot of us.

Speaker 1:

I mean definitely men as well, but I tend to focus mainly on women, and I think that, and I think there's so many women out there that that give, give, give, give, give, give, give, give, give, go, go, go, go, go, go go, and then there's nothing left for them.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, 100%. I've always seen that because after the first decade of working with youth and young families, then I was just working primarily with women, because women primarily go to therapy. Women primarily get their partners to go to therapy. Women are primarily the ones who take their kids to therapy, so it's almost always women. So I have a lot of experience with women and watching them young, midlife, older.

Speaker 2:

Yes, there is such a deep ingrained caregiver and lover. Like a caregiver, like I love people, I got to care for my people and I nurture them and so we've learned. We've learned that inherited. We've learned that from moms and grandmas and great grandmothers who we never knew because that was their role too. So to be a modern woman and like, go do this, because you can do anything, go be successful, but you also have this innate I have to also nurture and like care for everyone it's innate, it's automatic. I want to and I I need to.

Speaker 2:

So usually the woman's needs comes last and there's there. We're not meant to judge and blame ourselves for that training. That training is ancestral and it's really deep ingrained. But each of us must come to free ourselves from it so we can really choose and remember what our own needs are. That was part of the cause for cancer. There was many circumstances that allowed the system there was adrenal exhaustion and allowed the system to actually create such cells. But, um, each woman must learn to like pause and ask herself what do I need? I've asked so many women that like, what do you need right now? And most will really like kind of look like a deer in the headlights right, like well, I don't know, I don't know when, when, who last asked me that or when did I last ask myself that.

Speaker 2:

So it can be a very unusual question, and I'd love for more people to learn to ask it of themselves and for us to teach our children to ask it of them. Not beyond the basic food, shelter needs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that it's so important because, just as you said, we've learned generational from our ancestors, but what sometimes we don't think about is that we're also in that line and we're now passing things on Exactly To our children, and so we might not have started the whole thing, but we can do something to stop it.

Speaker 2:

I know and I get excited about that, like let's think of the future generations in all that we do. And that's why I really get passionate about women, men, parents. Like clear it now before you get pregnant or you got young kids or you're a grandparent. Like just anything you do to clear old stuff affects the whole web.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I agree, I love that when someone just goes OK, let's clear this up. That old thing still affects me.

Speaker 1:

I want it gone, like yeah and I think there's guilt and shame and everything that comes around with that, but I think when they understand that that it's, it didn't re, we didn't start it, we're continue. We've continued it possibly, but but we didn't start it, and so really that guilt and shame shouldn't even be there. It's not really on our shoulders. It was like a gift that was given to us that we never asked for.

Speaker 2:

Well, right and in a way, the soul was in agreement of being the one who could heal it, Because generations past also did not focus on personal development and healing. Like there wasn't time. My grandma had no time for that yeah, you know either of my grandmas. So who is who would even consider like self-reflection and contemplating and like what? You know? That's just not what the time was. So it's the people in the time. Now we have the time, we have those who have the inclination. We can do that proactively for our children and grandchildren and generations to come. And it affects the whole web, it affects all of humanity. Of course it affects your family system first and most strongly, but then it ripples out, of course, through everyone we're with. It's just so important, Like I'm just so passionate about people doing it. You're meant to be happy and free and not in stress.

Speaker 1:

Well, and it's yeah, and you're saving. You know, like, like, I came from quite a quite a not the greatest background and my mom never dealt with her stuff, which I don't feel you know and she's passed on. But I I understand that because, again, just like you said, they weren't. You know that even a generation ago they weren't really dealing with their stuff. Nobody really said, oh, maybe you should go get counseling, right, it was like no, we're not talking about it, but it comes out. And so of course I was affected, my siblings, I have brothers that are still to this day drug addicts. And then it fell to their children and I could see, for even in the beginning of my motherhood I could see what direction I was going and, luckily for me, I didn't want to go there and I was somewhat aware, and so I went on a personal growth journey and now my kids are. They're not perfect, but they're pretty darn good. But my grandkids are great, like I can see it.

Speaker 2:

I can actually see it. I love that. Yeah, it made a difference for you to choose a different path and really, yeah know that you were impacting.

Speaker 1:

And I think, and I think that that a lot of times. I spoke with a lady the other day and I could see she was still having quite a difficulty. I could see she was still having quite a difficulty. I don't want to say forgiving her mother, but just accepting it. It's just the way it was. It was still ingrained in her and I certainly understand how that happens, for sure, but they got it from somewhere. Yes, so you know, so we so. So I believe that we need to understand like, yeah, this you know, I didn't have the greatest mother, but then she was also didn't have the greatest mother and father, and who knows and who knows where that went down that road. So it's not about blame, it's about saying you know what I want better for my kids and it's time to just stop it. Not about blame. It's about saying you know what I want better for my kids and it's time to just stop it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, it's hard to let go of such pain and trauma. I mean, I've been through many stages of observing psychology too and people's views and counselors' views and the views on trauma, and what I'm aware of now is everything can heal a lot faster than it could even 10 years ago. It's just the state and the rate of our consciousness, because as more and more people are opening or freeing themselves, let's say, or letting go of things, it just becomes easier and lighter. So anyone who's just starting now there might be an old idea like, oh, this is going to be awful, or I don't want to go there, or this or that, and I just always try and educate people. Like it really can be easier than you think.

Speaker 2:

Like I've seen people be free of something in one appointment over and over and over again if we're getting to the root cause, and so it's about like diving into the root and knowing what to pay attention to, versus sometimes you need to really tell your story a lot. So I'm not minimizing that, but there are times when it's not at all time for story or story is completely done and a person's ready to let go, or they just don't know what they need in order to let go cause and clairvoyance and seeing developed over years for me of being in the therapist's seat and seeing and hearing and seeing more and more things and now it's just much more sharply clear. So it saves time. It saves a lot of time and I wish for people I always wanted that when I was younger, like this healing stuff, like it's got to be faster, I used to think, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Then I had an amazing mentor and she was fast. I was like, wow, if I can ever work like her. So I'm very excited to pass that on Like it can I want you to be free faster. Yeah, I want you to be out of suffering just as quickly as possible. You know we still have to take steps and be ready for certain changes. You know you have to integrate and follow through, but really, oh, it's a lot lighter than it was even 10 years ago, wow.

Speaker 1:

Well, can you tell us a little bit about how you work? Then let's jump into that, because I'm curious, because you have quite an extensive background and you just mentioned about the, about. I think I read that you do a bit of energy. You can read energy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that that's what happened over time. Like I remember the first day it ever happened and and it was disconcerting to me I was was 29, but now it's 25 years later. So I've watched this and become discerning. Like I understand what I'm seeing now and it's become a lot sharper and clearer of what to focus on for each person. So how I work is whoever is with me on Zoom or in person, we talk a little bit. I have a form. They have to tell me a little bit about what the purpose is Like. What do you really want to shift? What do you want? To become clear, I have some key questions and then, when we get into session together, we have a bit of time talking, but then we're going to go into the body and so I talk the person through that. So we're both deeply going into the body and then, once that person is a bit more settled and quiet, I'm just quiet for a bit myself while I look into the energy system and how things look for me. There's a lot of people that see things, and in their own unique ways, but how it looks for me is that we have a field, an energetic field, and it has different kind of layers to it and you know, in Chinese medicine there's meridian lines. You know from the Indian system there's wheels. Well, there's also smaller bits like that. So, like you know, you got this whole big system and there's all kinds of things going on in your field, this whole big 3D field. So when I know what somebody wants, I ask the question about what's the root cause of this and what's most helpful for this person today that they're ready for, and then my attention is drawn to certain parts of their field. So yesterday there was a physiological issue for a woman that was clearly blocking what she really wanted. So we attended to that physiological issue. There was also a thought field which I saw as a bit of thought. Old thought cycles or old beliefs I see usually as spinning wheels. Usually they look like a spinning wheel to me in a certain area of the body. So I'll tell the person like here's where I see it. It's over on this area in the front and beside, inside the body or outside the body. And here's where I see it, it's over on this area in the front and beside, inside the body or outside the body, and here's what it says. So I'm reading those thoughts or old beliefs and I'll get a sense of where it comes from, an ancestral experience, or I'll see a memory or something of theirs. And as these things happen, like as we identify them, I use my words and my voice. I kind of know what to say, or I'm directed to what to say, and these things drop and I can see them almost melt.

Speaker 2:

The energy field to me sometimes looks gray or a little bit clumped up, or I see a dark spot, or sometimes it looks wiggly. Just it's not flowing freely. The energy is not flowing freely. So we attend to that through identifying it the emotions and the thoughts and the old beliefs, the old identity. Some other time sometimes it's, sometimes it's another lifetime, like I see you in another body, but other times it's clearly an ancestor. And as that happens, then I see that energy kind of clear, it rests, it kind of almost comes to rest, just like we feel when we're on a really amazing vacation and you just feel yourself over time kind of let go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So that's how I see kind of the energy. It just kind of is trying to settle and in that settling, when the person becomes more settled, more and more deeply open and settled, then we do a healing and I call in energy and direct and move the energy a little bit myself, because we're now interacting field ourselves, me and this other person, yes, yes, and then so that then the healing takes place, just kind of rebalancing and integrating everything. That old stuff is clear, that old stuff is settling and it's done, and then when we're complete, we'd come back and we talk and have a few steps to take to integrate those changes and have a few steps to take to integrate those changes. When someone works with me on a package, then I link between each session, sending them audio healings, and follow up right up, like here's your summary, here's your action steps, how are you doing? And then some audio stuff to practice.

Speaker 1:

And does that? Do you find? Like, what's the time frame? I mean, I know everybody is, of course, very, very different. Yes, of course, but just on an average, like what is a? What do you find let's do this. What do you find is one of the more easier things for people to heal?

Speaker 2:

from yes, so one of the easiest things to heal from is anxiety.

Speaker 1:

Oh, don't we all have that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, changed. But now in the way that I work now it's fast and easy. It's usually very simple to heal from anxiety and, for instance, I mean I have many examples, but a few weeks ago a young one, someone who was like just around 10, came and had some trouble sleeping. And this is done in one time. This was different than many people's concerns and why they're not sleeping, different reason, but knowing him and seeing his system and why he wasn't sleeping, uh, and getting to that right away and giving the parents that information, that just made all the difference. It just really calmed this person. That was super helpful, like to be able that somebody could identify that for him.

Speaker 2:

So the same thing is true of adults. Like, usually it's a misidentification and people will go through like, why am I having this anxiety? What's wrong with me? God, like, if I could just relax? Why can't I meditate? If I could just relax? I can't relax.

Speaker 2:

And they have all kinds of stories around it but they haven't actually understood the cause of it, the basic what's turning the wheel? And when you can get to that, what's turning the wheel immediately, like within a few minutes, and then we address it, the whole system relaxes. Now that person will go about their life like, say, they work 50 hours a week, like they're going to have to make changes if they want to maintain that. But that core crux of the cause either panic or something's wrong with me or I'm running from something, or once you understand that, that piece gone, it's a different experience of yourself, you know. And then there it frees up some energy to potentially make different choices and understand oneself differently. Um, yeah, so that's fat. That's fast and easy. And then another thing I'm really passionate about is helping women couples get pregnant, and that is also easy for me, seeing issues in the womb and it can happen really fast. And the baby souls usually communicate with me if there's one hanging around.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, wow, now that's interesting because there's a lot of trouble out there.

Speaker 2:

I know, yeah, and it's not that complicated Usually. Usually, yeah, usually, it's about the system being ready and the babies coming in are so highly conscious, like such a different frequency. The parents are not ready for that frequency to hold it, so it's not necessarily a physical issue. Usually it's like I need you to be ready for me and you're not either. You're not healthy enough, you're not for the baby that wants to come to them. Okay, there's tons of souls that want to come in.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

But for instance, somebody recently yeah, there was just like, just such slight things. There was a physiological issue for the mom, but then the family system and the couple. It was very slight and gentle, this shift that need to be made. But this is what the baby was asking for and they had no real block to how they physically couldn't get pregnant. But the baby's just like you're not quite ready with this thing. I want you to Like the kids are coming from God. You know they're coming from the great. All that is that created all of us, yes, and there's in that frequency, and that frequency is complete trust. It's surrender, it's peace, it's freedom. It's like. So if the parents are very far from that, they're just not the right match. They can't match. Like the well or the. It's just not open. The well or the it's just not open.

Speaker 2:

It's just as though people are often operating like you know, yes, yeah, right, but these souls are just like more like a soft flower petal, please, yeah, you know, if I could give you an image. Yeah, like I don't want a stone, like I don't want to, like, try to fight with you.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I want to get in there and embed my. Yes, yeah, wow, wow. I never, ever even thought of that concept.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's beautiful though, though. Preconception has been a thing Before. I had my son. He's 15 now. I wanted to study preconception around the world because I thought the West doesn't really get this. Like who gets this? And there's cultures around the world that really planned, like, if a couple gets married and wanted to have a child, then they were to be held in a sacred way by the community for a year before inviting the soul in, and they needed to be aware of what they took in in food and drink and what they took in in thoughts and emotion, you know, and when I read those stories I was like oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1:

That's amazing that that's happening. Yes, well, that is yeah, has.

Speaker 2:

There's places in the world that they once knew this and still do, and I'm passionate about more people knowing that. Yeah, invite babies in. That's our. We help the world that way. The babies are so conscious and the kids are so conscious.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, so much closer wow, that's thank you for sharing that. I think that's beautiful, just beautiful. Well, let me ask you what daily ritual keeps you anchored in joy presence or embodied peace?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I could always use more joy, but I have daily rituals of sitting still, and sometimes, due to things, I might only have a couple minutes, where that sitting still often involves what I call prayer, but it's just talking to life or being with my own inner being, like looking at the tree or something if my eyes are open, or choosing to do a meditation. Looking at the tree or something if my eyes are open, or choosing to do a meditation. Sometimes that's longer and if I can do a full, I really love it when I have a more full yoga practice, because I taught yoga for many years. It's deep in my body. I had at least a 20-year steady, steady practice Wow. Now I don't have a full practice as often, but I like to get at least a half an hour on the mat and that's awesome, and then sometimes I just go outside and sit on the ground and have my tea.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That really helps me listening to the birds and looking at the trees to start the day. So simple things yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, why do you think a lot of people they try to meditate but they can't, or they think they can't.

Speaker 2:

This is fascinating because I taught meditation for years. After starting yoga, I started meditating when I was 19. I didn't know what it was. I was in this little town in Alberta, like I couldn't find a book on it. I didn't even know the word. But I started by gazing at a candle and I really encourage people to try this.

Speaker 2:

If you think I can't meditate, try gazing at a candle flame, a real flame, and just have it at about eye level and just let your eyes kind of go soft, just the way we gaze at fire. It will help you slow the nervous system down and slow from high beta wave to more alpha wave and even slower in your brain waves. Something really simple like that. Or that's why people love being in nature, where I just like gaze at the sparkles on the lake or something, or like wander watching birds yes, who knows like there's nature does that for us too. So everybody can can meditate. Don't put it in a place where it has to be sitting still with my eyes closed. The more you find still places, times when I can be still without moving. That's amazing. I can be at peace with myself for five minutes. Then it's those times where you could maybe also close your eyes for another five minutes.

Speaker 2:

But it's the forcing. It's a habit of forcing that people have and our culture has. I should, and what's wrong with me if I can't? For one time that was. The most common thing is people would say I can't do it, but they tried for five minutes. Meeting the mind is very hard the mind supposedly. We have 50 to 60,000 thoughts a day, and so meeting your own mind is difficult. It's racing often, it's babbling about all sorts of things, about your day and people and your life and associations. It just babbles on and on and so that can be painful and irritating and we don't like to sit with discomfort generally as a humanity. But find something that works like okay, maybe I could gaze at a candle flame for five minutes, or maybe I could be in a peaceful environment for five minutes, being still with eyes open, and then try, could I close my eyes for another five? Everybody is capable of that. It's just training. It's just training.

Speaker 1:

You just made me think about all the times we've sat around campfires. Yes, I know, and most of the time you could be sitting around a campfire with 10 other people and it's quiet. Yes, people go quiet.

Speaker 2:

It's awesome, yeah, because we love being outside and we love being around fire. It's innate, that is ancestral. Yeah, that is deeply ancestral, and that's why it's easier.

Speaker 1:

Ah, you know, I had to pay more attention to that. Next time I'm camping I know I'll be awake watching to see who's who's.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I mean, I live in the city. I just ache for more fire, like I want to have a yard where I can just have fire. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, wow, okay, and I wanted to ask you another question. So when people what do you do for people when they're drop items that are overwhelming them, you know there's something in the system that's stopping. There's an old pattern that's stopping the person from letting go.

Speaker 2:

And so when you or a person doesn't know why can't I let this go, like I'm just constantly hitting these patterns of totally dropping and being overwhelmed or overstressing myself, if that keeps happening and it's just you're not shifting out of it, then there's something you're missing. And that's not a flaw. There's just something you can't quite see right now. Right, you know, but there's a reason that it keeps going. There's part of you that wants to be known Like your soul is just showing you that repeating pattern, because there's more to be seen about that and understood until it can completely drop, but 100% it's not a difficult pattern to drop.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what a fabulous conversation, alexandra. Thank you, julie. Oh, my goodness, I have learned so much. I really have, and I know anyone who's listening is going to learn. I'm so excited that we've done this and that it's going to go out there, and I just I'm sure there's going to be lots of women that are going to get help from watching this. Nice Wow. So what would you like to say in closing to anybody that's listening or watching?

Speaker 2:

Okay, what would I like to say? I think what I'd most like to say is be more gentle with yourself. You are so loved because you are love. That's who you are so loved because you are love, that's who you are inside, and really the more that you could come to know that and honor it, honor it. Honor it. You are love, you are joy, you are sweetness and peacefulness. You are all these good things and it's worth taking that time to be with yourself I really want people to know that beauty is right there.

Speaker 2:

Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much for that. Well, I need to take a deep breath.

Speaker 2:

Let's end with a deep breath. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was, that was fabulous and, as I said, I learned a lot and I I I appreciate you very much for being willing to come and share your knowledge and your wisdom from all these years of helping people. And and my one thing I really hope that everyone gets from listening to this is and hopefully they understand is that it's not as difficult as we think.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And that's what that was a big message I got from you. Oh, good yeah it's just, it's not as difficult to to live in happiness and joy and love. It's actually harder to live in sadness, anger and grief and yeah, and, and. So I hope that people get that message and I hope that they will do something for themselves. Call, call, alexandra, she can help you.

Speaker 2:

yeah I hope so. Yeah, that would be wonderful, yeah so for all parents, you can book a parent consult a free parent consult and for all individuals that want to do something same thing, just book a phone call and let's see if there's something I can help you with. Love, love it.

Speaker 1:

So we will have Alexandra's contact information in the details section of the show notes, so don't hesitate to reach out to her. She's amazing. I think if I needed some help, I would be reaching out. Well, I think we all probably need a little bit of help but I would reach out. That's what I think. I think, just think you're fabulous. So thank you so much for doing this, thank you all for oh, you're welcome, and thank you all for watching. I appreciate that and we will see you all again next time. Bye.

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