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Anthem at Supercross: Ready, Set, Sing!
What does it feel like to stand in front of 50,000 people, at Raymond James Stadium, with nothing but a microphone and the weight of the National Anthem on your shoulders? In this episode, Greg interviews Cameo as she takes you behind the scenes of her unforgettable experience singing at Supercross—sharing the nerves, the preparation, and the overwhelming emotions leading up to the moment. She opens up about a past anthem performance that once shattered her confidence, the mental techniques she used to push through self-doubt, and the incredible support system that helped her step onto that stage with courage.
But the journey didn’t end when the song did. Cameo also unpacks the flood of emotions that followed—the relief, the pride, and the unexpected ways the experience shifted her perspective on perfectionism and personal growth. She reflects on what it really means to take a risk, how we process achievement after overcoming something that once felt impossible, and why recognizing our own victories is just as important as chasing the next goal.
If you’ve ever felt like past failures define you, like you’re too overwhelmed to chase something big, or like self-doubt has talked you out of showing up for yourself—this episode is for you.
In this episode:
- How to stop letting past failures define your future
- The truth about confidence (hint: it’s not something you wait for)
- Why fear doesn’t mean stop—it means go
- The power of mental preparation and visualization
- The people you need in your corner for big moments
- What happens after you accomplish something huge—and how to process it
- The mindset shift that helps you take the leap
This isn’t just about singing in a stadium. It’s about learning to step up when the moment comes. Are you ready?
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Welcome to the Cameo Show. I'm your host, greg, and today we have a very, very, very special guest, none other than Cameo.
Speaker 2:Hello.
Speaker 1:We're switching things up a little bit today because Cameo has a very exciting story to tell and I'm going to be the interviewer and she's going to be the interviewee. But I want to start things off with a dad joke, as we always do. I kind of need a haircut, so this was a good one. How does the moon cut his hair? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Eclipse, it, eclipse, it Eclipse. So today is very special because this past weekend you did something that was way outside of your comfort zone. It was an incredible opportunity and there's a whole lot to unpack, so let's just kind of dive into it and just kind of start us off. What happened?
Speaker 2:this weekend. This weekend I had the opportunity to sing the national anthem at a Supercross event in Raymond James Stadium. So it was a full stadium where the Tampa Bay Buccaneers play of people there to see motocross, obviously, but I got to open the ceremonies with the national anthem. It was a complete honor and privilege and a moment that I will never forget, because it was literally something that I have dreamed about since I was 12, probably 12-year-old me used to sing the national anthem for anything and everything in my hometown in Ohio and surrounding areas, and I always envisioned this day and it finally happened at 42. So decades later, I was able to see that come to fruition and it was quite an experience.
Speaker 1:And you killed it, you nailed it. Leading up to it it was a lot of anxiousness, excitement, anxiety, whatever you want to call it, but it was. You could cut the air in the house for the months leading up to it and we didn't really want to say too much about it. Just to you know. Just I don't know why. We just didn't want to like over, you know.
Speaker 2:Oversell it. We, greg and I both but I'll speak for me. I have become a person who likes to work in silence and then just kind of show up to big moments. So I don't mean that to sound arrogant or, you know, conceited in any way, shape or form, it's just I do a lot of grinding that I don't talk about, and you know I've sang my whole life. We sing, we produce music, we put music out on a regular basis and don't talk a lot about it, just because it's just something that we love and just something that we do.
Speaker 1:Love the process.
Speaker 2:And so this was another one of those moments. Also, you're right, there were a lot of emotions. I mean, it was a huge emotional roller coaster for me. One because it was such a big opportunity. Two, because it was such a big opportunity. Two, because it was so many people and such a big event to be singing for. And my last experience with singing the national anthem was not a successful one, and so I wasn't a hundred percent sure and confident in myself about how I would show up to this moment, so I didn't talk a lot about it. Not that not talking about it would have made it any better if it didn't go well, it still would have sucked but it just is something that I prefer to behave that way. I stay focused that way, with my blinders up, doing rather than talking.
Speaker 1:Well, let's jump back to that. Before we talk about this past weekend and all the excitement about that, take us back to the last time you sang the national anthem and what happened.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we talked about this on a previous episode recently, so I won't go into extreme details. But the last time I tried out to sing the national anthem at a spring Pittsburgh Pirates baseball game here in southwest Florida, the reason it didn't go well was because right before they called my name, I had no idea when they were going to call my name. There were no numbers, I didn't know anyone. I had gone to the restroom and they called my name right when I was in the restroom.
Speaker 1:Literally pants down around her ankles. I looked in the bathroom down the first base dugout line and I was like they just called your name and I saw you pull your pants up and run out of the bathroom.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It was hilarious.
Speaker 2:So not only are you nervous in that situation, and when you're nervous or excited about something, your heart rate accelerates, your breathing becomes more rapid and intense. You're sweaty, your heart rate accelerates, your breathing becomes more rapid and intense, you're sweaty, you know your, your, your palms are sweaty and knees weak.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Then add that I literally ran down the baseline, grabbed the mic and started singing. The gravity of that moment was like okay, well, here I am in front of all these people singing the national anthem no pressure, trying out to do it, so you want to do well. But also I'm in front of all these people singing the national anthem no pressure, trying out to do it, so you want to do well. But also I'm completely out of breath. And I'm out of breath because I'm nervous. It just didn't go well and I hadn't done it in a really long time, and so that wasn't my best performance. I didn't get that gig and I wasn't proud of it. You know, obviously it was a blow. It was a blow to my ego. It was a blow to me kind of circling back to something that I really care about, which is music and singing and my ability there. I hadn't done it in a really long time.
Speaker 1:Before you've done it, though, you had done the national anthem, maybe what a hundred times? In high school basketball games and, like your life, you've done that so many times that it was like second nature. So you thought I got this and then you didn't. In that moment and it was hard, but what? What did I say?
Speaker 2:Greg in that moment said it's going to be a great story someday.
Speaker 1:And here we are.
Speaker 2:And today is someday, because, even though I recently shared that story, now I have a redemption story to follow it. And it gives me goosebumps and I could cry because it's a pretty big pretty big redemption story. Pretty big redemption moment yeah.
Speaker 1:All right. So let's go back to you. You the national anthem flop. How many years ago? Eight years ago, six years ago.
Speaker 2:It was several. I mean definitely over five.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe like seven years ago. In that moment it was like oh, and I feel like maybe you kind of shied away from singing a little bit. You didn't really show much enthusiasm for it at that time. After that, which you wouldn't. I mean, it was a pretty big blow to your ego.
Speaker 2:So when I was younger it was such a huge part of who I was and I was recognized for it a lot.
Speaker 1:It was a big part of your identity, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I was bulletproof, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I was bulletproof, yeah. And then you become a teenager and a young adult and a young mom and a wife of a musician who plays in a band every other weekend whatever the case may be very frequently who's surrounded by other very talented musicians, who has a history of playing in a band, that has a record deal in arenas. It became something that I just didn't really do anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it wasn't because of you, it just all of that Right, and the only time I ever did it was drunk karaoke or drunk jumping on stage with you guys or some other local band. Like way back in the day, way back in the day, yeah, 12, 15 years ago, yeah. And then you're drunk and you don't care and nobody cares, and it's not like you're really You're laughing off, you're not really performing. Yeah, you know you're not really showing your ability. It's just in the moment doing what you're doing. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Trying out, for that was the first time I had put myself out there in that way to be. I guess judged again for something that.
Speaker 1:I hung my hat on for so long Very vulnerable and the kids were there.
Speaker 2:You were there like it was a moment that flopped and it was a punch to the gut and I did shy away from it from that point forward because I'm like, well, maybe I don't, maybe this isn't something that I was, that I'm not great at anymore, maybe maybe that was. You know, great. Good for you. Big fish, small pond, little kid, cool. I didn't sing very much. Plus, during that period of time and I think a lot of people probably experienced this you're not really sure how to reconnect with what you love and what you did when you were a little kid, because now you're an adult and you have responsibilities and you're supposed to have it all together. And that dream that you had when you were 12, well, that's over, because real life is now here and there's no time for that.
Speaker 1:We were going to gymnastics every weekend. We were, you know, just busy building a business from ground up. I mean, life was lifing hardcore during that time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're trying to repair our marriage. We have small children. We are living in an area where we don't really know anyone.
Speaker 1:Navigating, not being alcoholics.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we had recently quit drinking.
Speaker 1:We're living with all this time now, yeah.
Speaker 2:So who am I?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that moment showed me that maybe I'm not quite the singer that I thought I was yeah.
Speaker 2:so that was a difficult moment and it wasn't until 2020 when COVID hit and we kind of had a little bit more time and also some moments of like what do I want to do with my life? Like life, life is short. This is a weird thing happening and nobody knows what to do. I'm not going to waste another minute. You started doing music again, and that was when I decided to write a book. It didn't even dawn on me to like do music.
Speaker 1:You never sang. Join you in music.
Speaker 2:I was very rigid about it because I learned to play piano in a very rigid way, where it was right or wrong, and same with singing, and then I was coming off of a huge flop and I was just like this is not my thing anymore.
Speaker 1:Put it in the, in the closet, and shut the door and just didn't look at it. And then and then I remember asking you to come in and sing on a song that I was working on. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I was just like you opened your mouth and sing on a song that I was working on. Yeah, and I was just like you opened your mouth and sang and I was like my God, and you just didn't even put much effort towards it and it was like the most beautiful thing that I had heard through my headphones and I'm like wow.
Speaker 2:It's like you had never really heard me sing before that moment, because I was either drunk or singing in the shower and maybe you weren't taking me seriously and I had this flop, you know, and I came in and saying like it was nothing and you're like, uh, who are you?
Speaker 1:Yeah it, literally. I was like my mind was blown because I'm like I, you're my wife, I know everything about you, but then, all of a sudden, there's this whole side of you that I didn't know existed. Literally that sounds absolutely crazy, but it was the 100% truth that. I was like saw something in you that I had never seen yet.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's because I think I must have just been comfortable at that moment to come out and play at that moment to come out and play.
Speaker 2:Prior to that what I started hanging my hat on and I still do. I really put a lot of effort into my athletic endeavors. So you know, marathons and professional bodybuilding and mountain climbing and all these things that I've done, I enjoy doing, they're healthy for me, physically, mentally, they're my thing. But they became like the only that was. I became the athlete. You were the musician, I was the athlete and in that moment I came in and sang and you were like, oh okay, welcome to the party. And I think honestly and it's not anyone's fault or anyone's influence or anyone making me feel less than it was really challenging for me to have been recognized my whole life for being a musician, for being a singer and being a pianist, and then not being welcomed or accepted or recognized by you and your bandmates or peers Again, not their fault, my lens, my lens well, why would they know any different?
Speaker 1:correct, and it's their sandbox, right? And you're there to be a supportive spouse it's like, but that's my thing too and I had like I can't.
Speaker 2:I always say this, I don't even know the story, but it feels fitting like I had like yoko ono complex where I was afraid that I was gonna be a problem for you. So I just, anytime I would chime in or say anything, I was usually six beers in and I came across as a bitch and overbearing and like nobody asked you the delivery was a little no, not, not.
Speaker 1:Not that there was any really these moments, but but but yeah, the few that I can remember. They were awkward Because it's 2.30 in the morning, let me get my time, yeah. But so on that musical journey, though, we're like kind of toe in the water with it, crazy idea to go to Seattle and record at London Bridge with Jeff Ott and redo Pearl Jam and Temple the Dog and record the song that we wrote 15 years ago when we got there.
Speaker 1:I remember, of course, at that point I'm like okay, I know you can sing, let's literally fly across the country and go record in a real studio and see how this works. And I remember that moment when you're in the studio and you're kind of just testing the mics, and when you were in that room and you started singing, it got real serious, real quick. Jeff was like looking for. I'm like, okay, we got to like get this. And it was like one of these like Hollywood TV moments of like I told you she's got it. Well, I remember that moment too.
Speaker 1:She's got it.
Speaker 2:Well, I remember that moment too. I had never recorded in the studio and you had other than our home studio. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So now, here I am in this iconic studio where all of these legendary albums and records have been made, with you and a legendary producer and engineer. I don't know what the hell is happening. I've never done this before. I don't know what's going. I don't know what to expect. I don't know how I'm supposed to behave. I don't know. Am I supposed to like have an opinion or just sing, or what am I supposed to do? And I just remember that moment, too, where I timidly had played piano prior to that and it was kind of like okay, and then I started singing.
Speaker 2:When people talk about a flow state, I feel like I have a couple and that is definitely my most intense one where I sing, I can close my eyes and I could just sing for hours and feel like five minutes when I open my eyes. That's what kind of happened in the studio. I had this moment of like oh my God, this is like. This is me. This is the true essence of who I am and it comes out through my voice. That gave me a lot of confidence and it re-sparked this interest in music in your studio and asking me to come in and I like to help clean things up and I'm a details person. I like to help produce it. Get rid of this turn that up.
Speaker 1:You could hear pitch. You would hear like that one words pitchy and I'd be like I don't hear that. And I'd pull it up in the pitch correction app and be like, oh my God, you're right, it's. It's like a half step off and I'm like how, Just time and time again, I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 2:It's just years of training from like all the way back to when I was in middle school of like reading music, sight reading, singing, needing to be on pitch for competitions and different things, but I enjoyed that aspect and I would sing here or there for you, but we never recorded anything. I have this block when it comes to creativity and I wasn't able to like break that down enough to actually be involved in like singing and recording until we went to Seattle and then that definitely reignited something inside of me that made me feel like, okay, we're doing this together, which feels awesome. We just created beautiful art together with Jeff and released it on Spotify as Waiting for Elise. We don't talk about it a lot but shameless plug.
Speaker 2:That's our music project. It's Greg on drums, me on piano and vocals. Obviously that's what we've done over the last couple of years in our quote unquote free time. When we have the opportunity to record and release music together, I mean you do a lot with other people and with your own artist profile, but when we have the opportunity, it also gave me the freedom and the confidence to record. You know, sit at my own piano which I'm so grateful to have, which as a little girl I dreamed to have and record, just sit and play and sing. Recording is optional. I sit and play and sing a lot and don't record it.
Speaker 1:And I'm always very upset with you. I'm like did you record that? And you're like uh-uh.
Speaker 2:I'm like it's too much, it's too dramatic to set up the camera. I just want to sit and sing.
Speaker 1:Leave me alone, it's my thing, leave me alone, it's my thing, like the cats all go nuts when she gets into the zone and it's. It's just a vibe, a vibration, an energy, a feeling. The whole house feels it.
Speaker 2:It's true when I cats are like I know I'm on. When Luna comes up, our cat she's like. My cat comes up and can't stay off of me just rubbing all over me and purring.
Speaker 1:But your voice is just purring and it's humming and it's just it sounds amazing and posting videos and reels. You know, just we did some Christmas music.
Speaker 2:And that's been so fun, because that's given me this like connection with myself that's been lacking for so many years. And it was because of those videos and because of being able to confidently put myself out there in that way, to set the vulnerability aside and the fear of being judged and the fear of not being perfect aside and say, well, this, I love this and I'm just going to share it. And if people like it, great, and if they don't, fine. I enjoy doing it. I love doing it, yeah, and that's the text message.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's where I was going. That led to this opportunity was that someone saw me in the way that I would love to be seen most. You know I do all of these things and they're all great and I love doing them. But to get a text that says send me the demo of you singing the national anthem is quite an honor. And at first I was like, seriously, are you sure? And then, like a week later I got the text that said you're in, mark your calendar for February 8th.
Speaker 1:And I didn't sleep that night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no. Then I kind of like let it sit. I had a like silent countdown going on in my head and I would like sing a little and practice a little and think about it a little. But then when it got to 30 days out, it started to get more real and then more practice and more more intense more intense all that time you're finishing your book, literally putting the final chef's kiss on your book. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Sending it off to be like final proofread edited. The same week. Off to production.
Speaker 2:The same week. Yeah, so last week I literally said we are final, final, send it off to our last like grammar spelling check, edit before it gets sent off for interior formatting like literal production. The same week that the podcast turned two years old years old, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1:And then that's crazy, all of that happened last week.
Speaker 2:I'm like literally fighting back tears over here because when you say it like that, it's like holy shit. It's easy to get caught up in like the day to day and feel like I'm never moving the needle, I'm never doing anything. I think everyone feels that way. But if you really take a second to allow yourself to see all of the things that you do on a regular basis all while being a mom and a wife and running a business and helping people close loans to buy new homes- and getting five-star Google reviews, zillow reviews, helping people do that kind of thing, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, it sounds braggadocious but the thing is is that you don't, because you're afraid of sounding that way, and I'm just putting it out here for you and for our listeners to remind them that, like, it isn't really about telling everyone about it or broadcasting, it's just about allowing yourself to say, okay, this isn't arrogant or narcissistic or pompous, to think about all the things that you do and give yourself a damn round of applause and pat on the back because we manage and handle so many things on a regular basis that we just don't ever take a pause and say, wow, I'm actually doing, okay, like I'm doing it. And last week was a really big week and I feel almost outside of myself to think about last week. And the reason is and this is kind of like a sidebar I can't help myself but give a message oh God, I'm going to cry. I'm literally going to cry. So I have notebooks, I write down goals, I have a color changing pen that I organize my life with and I keep them to go back to and look through.
Speaker 2:In 2017, on New Year's Eve, I wrote down a page full of what I called 10X goals. We had just gone to, earlier that year, a 10X conference Grant Cardone where the whole premise of his book and his conference and all of the people that he brings in to speak, is that if you have a goal, why not 10X? It Make it 10 times bigger than you ever could imagine you could achieve. So that year I wrote down my 10X goals and on that list of goals was the reset button. I hadn't started, I didn't start writing it until 2020, but the idea of the reset button my book that will be out soon but the idea of the reset button my book that will be out soon was born on New Year's Eve of 2017, turning 2018. And now, in 2025, it's finally done.
Speaker 2:After we came home from the studio in Seattle the second time, when we went out to kind of finish everything up right after we released the songs we released them in November of 2023, I made a new list, a target list of people that I would need to contact at the different arenas and stadiums in Tampa and Orlando to pitch myself, to sing the national anthem at a game or an event, and on that list in November of 2023, all of those people and those venues. And then the note, like the list of like, well, I have to record a demo. And that was November of 2023. And I never pitched to anyone. I never recorded the demo. I never. I didn't get to it yet. I was so focused on finishing this book and staying focused on making sure that we deliver a podcast every week and being a great mom and all the things Everyone has.
Speaker 1:Food Making sure all my priorities are right.
Speaker 2:Music was kind of and still is kind of last on the list, but it was on the list.
Speaker 2:I guess is the point Both the book and what we're talking about today and these ideas, these goals, these dreams that were bigger than I could have ever imagined were on the list. I write them down. They don't just become some ridiculous goal, they become a to-do, and if I have a to-do list and a checklist I'll be sure that every decision that I make or every thing that I do is in alignment with getting to cross that off of the list and complete it. And so it's ironic it's beautifully ironic that those two things were on two separate lists of big, ridiculous goals and I was able to basically cross them both off the list at the same time.
Speaker 2:And actually this one, this singing at Raymond James, was not like specific, like the reset button was pretty specific on my list, but this one was just more of like I want to sing the national anthem, it's what I do and I want to do it big. And it was bigger than I. It was bigger. It was way bigger than I imagined when I wrote it down and when I made that list of cold emails to reach out to.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I'm proud of you for believing in yourself enough to write it down and not be like, oh, I don't deserve this. Because I think that's what a lot of my problems, a lot of people's problems, are, is they don't feel like they're worthy of winning, they don't feel like they're worthy of success, they don't feel like they're worthy of having a big, beautiful, bold life. They don't feel like they're worthy of it. I think that it gets just pounded out of us all through our adolescent years and through life. It just kind of gets to feeling like why even try? Because I try and then this happens and that I mean you tried and you were out of breath and you didn't get the national anthem, but I know you well enough to know that you weren't going to stop.
Speaker 2:I am nothing if not tenacious.
Speaker 1:You are literally a dog with a bone, you know.
Speaker 2:Wasn't necessarily even.
Speaker 1:I'm going to get you some tissues.
Speaker 2:I had to take a short break for some tissue T, some tissues. I had to take a short break for some tissue Tissue break. We get so bogged down by everyone's expectations and what we're supposed to be doing, that like. For me, it wasn't even about worthiness necessarily. It was this dichotomy between what I really dream of doing and what I should be doing, and that it's irresponsible for me to think that that's possible for me now because I'm in my thirties or I'm in my forties, and that time has come and gone. It's time to be serious Now. You own a business and you are married and you have two beautiful teenage children who have their own things that they're pursuing. You have a husband who has his own goals and like know your role, and I feel like a lot of people feel that way and unfortunately succumb to that feeling of like again, not worthiness, but pressure, almost of like.
Speaker 1:Well, I, I can't do that and I felt that Not worthy enough and all these pressures, so definitely it gets subdued, you know.
Speaker 2:And I felt that way for a while. That's heavily what the whole reset button book is about is giving yourself permission to say well, hang on, I can be all of those things too, and I can still find and reconnect with who I am and make decisions based on the way that I want to live my, based on the way that I want to live my life and the things that I want to pursue. And when you do that and they're the right things and they are truly what you love, and I'm not saying like, follow your passion but don't pay your bills I'm saying like, make sure that you're prioritizing the right things, but leave yourself on that list things fall into place. And so I believe firmly that without those big goal lists to keep me focused, without support and without the strength and fearlessness to put myself out there and pursue things, to set aside vulnerability and judgment, mostly from myself, none of these things would have happened this weekend. Wouldn't have happened because no one was going to come just knock on my door.
Speaker 2:Like you said, like the guys in the band all those years ago, they weren't going to be like hey cameo, can you sing? Oh, you can. Cool, going to be like hey, cameo, can you sing? Oh, you can, cool, join us. And I never gave them a reason to believe otherwise. So this situation, the same. No one was going to come knocking or text me. Hey, can you sing? Do you want to sing the national anthem at a huge event. If I hadn't showcased that I could by reconnecting with that piece of me, and that all comes from, like, knowing that I'm worthy and knowing that just because I'm older or just because I'm all of these things, I can still be that too.
Speaker 1:Yep, I used to spend so many years wishing people would call me to make music with them. I don't understand. And until you just decide I'm going to make music, I'm going to do whatever it is that I want to do, whatever that may be for you, then it becomes like you're unstoppable because you're like I'm not waiting on anybody. No one has that control over me. I'm doing this.
Speaker 2:Right. It's really sad, I mean it's really tragic actually to see people wither away and not continue to pursue what they love to do, out of fear or out of lack of self-worth or out of busyness and not making themselves a priority. You can see when somebody is lit up by something, you can feel it in their energy and you can recognize in yourself how contrastingly different it is when you're not, by having an experience where you bet on yourself or you put yourself in an uncomfortable situation or you do something bigger than you ever thought you could, and you come out the other side and the rush of adrenaline and the rush of emotion that you feel, the amount of alive that you feel God, I didn't know I was going to get so emotional. This is so weird, but the amount of alive that you feel makes you realize, like I didn't realize, I was dead in that area so much.
Speaker 2:I was sharing with you off camera earlier in conversation that, like I've done other big things in my life and some of them at the top level, like bodybuilding, for example. You know I didn't go to the Olympia but I was an IFBB pro, a professional bodybuilder who did compete. And once I got to that level and I competed as a professional for the first time and I worked at the Arnold as a pro at a large supplement company booth at the Arnold. You know like those are top level activities.
Speaker 1:You met Arnold.
Speaker 2:I went mute, but I did look at Arnold in the face and shake his hand.
Speaker 1:He said something, but I don't remember what he said.
Speaker 2:I have a bad history of that, but it was clear to me in that moment like I don't, this isn't what I want to do, like I don't want to continue to pursue this. This does not light me up. It does not fit in my life in the way that I want to. It doesn't make me feel the way that I want to feel. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And other things that I've done that have been big accomplishments. That have been big accomplishments, big career opportunities, big, you know, athletic endeavors where I'm, I do them, it feels awesome, I'm proud of it, but I also feel like, but that's not. I don't want to continue to do that. This was not that. And that's very vulnerable for me to say to what is my deal with all my crying today? Big cry, baby. But I haven't talked about this since it happened. So this is like this is real and raw for this episode because we haven't talked much about it, but like it's only been a couple of days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm still processing Are you eating, yet Are you still?
Speaker 2:I'm still, I'm eating, did you?
Speaker 1:eat anything yet today.
Speaker 2:I have not today. Leave me alone. My eating habits are. They're just fine, but this was not the same feeling. And again, I think where I was going before I started to get all ball baby again was.
Speaker 2:It's very vulnerable for me to say that, because I don't want that to be the one and only time I do something like that. I don't want that to be the one and only time I do something like that. I don't want that to be the only time I get to feel that feeling. Call it a dopamine junkie or whatever you want. I love that Doing it at that level. I told you last night I'm ruined, but it makes me want to double down on believing in myself and in my talent, my unique talent, because of the way that it made me feel alive. Yeah, and I've shied away from that for a really long time. Yeah, most people do for the same reason I do, which is like it's so important to me that if people don't think I sing great, if I'm not perfect, if everyone doesn't love it or you know people know they're better than me, then you know. Then I who do?
Speaker 1:I think I am, and then that's the death of your ego, your self-belief Right.
Speaker 2:But it isn't about that. That's probably where I've gone wrong in the past, with it being such an identifying factor for me and identity that I clung to a label and my perfectionistic tendencies that being able to set them down. I can see there's a lot of clarity in gravity in this moment. That was also something that was a very huge feeling on Sunday morning as I listened to the playback and finally watched a lot of the videos and you know, I start to get in my own head and start picking it apart. No, I was flat here when I found out I was doing this. I found something on Instagram that I will share.
Speaker 2:It was like a list of I don't know five to 10 things to tell yourself when you have a really big opportunity. Things like I get to do this. I'm grateful to be able to All of those things and I feel like I do a really good job of already kind of like living by after years of work and practice. But the one on that list that stood out that I really, really felt on Sunday was God damn if I start crying again, we're edit all this out.
Speaker 2:No, it was in the middle of the list and it said it doesn't have to be perfect to be great. And I felt that so deeply on Sunday and still because it wasn't perfect and it could have been better and I would love to do it better if I can do it again, you know. But it was still great and a lot of people get hung up on it needing to be perfect to even start, but I promise that it feels almost as good, if not better, than being perfect, because it was so fulfilling in all the right ways that whether it was perfect or not meant nothing.
Speaker 1:Well, this idea of being perfect is actually a myth, because, no matter what you think, you're always going to have something to pick it apart. Being a perfectionist that you are, I mean it's just an impossible unicorn you're chasing. That leads to a lifetime of frustration if you don't get a hold of that thing.
Speaker 2:Right. Perfectionism is elusive, because what's perfect to one person? Is not the same to the next person and you know, unless you're really looking at things that can be measured and graded, Well, that's where you, that's the world you came from. That's right.
Speaker 1:You would go to competitions. They would say what 98%.
Speaker 2:You didn't use the right fingers on the right keys. You know like.
Speaker 1:I've seen people put posts on the waiting for release reels of you playing the piano and saying, like your hand placement's wrong, it like what, who, why, I mean and you know, those types of things don't bother me so much because they're so ridiculous and obviously not important that it's like thank you and then yeah, see yourself out, welcome.
Speaker 2:you know you're welcome back if you want, but no thanks, like sometimes, for me it's less about what other people think and more about the harshness that I put myself under and I think a lot of people could probably relate to that too is that we are our own worst critic and we wouldn't dare speak to the people that we love, or even people that are strangers in the way that we speak to ourselves. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, you would just never say some of the cold mean, nitpicky, awful things to other people that you think about yourself.
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess some people might, but I wouldn't, and if I could extend the encouragement and the support that I give to other people to myself on a regular basis and I try, you know it would be become a much easier route. But then I'd probably find ways to make it more difficult, because that's what I, that's what I do. Speaking of difficulty, that was another thing. Was that, like a lot of people said, like how did you do that? How did you get up there in front of all those people, like probably almost 50,000 people? Right, I had imposter syndrome. I was more nervous at soundcheck than I was on event day. I didn't know how I was going to show up. I've done things. It's been years. I've never done anything in front of that many people.
Speaker 2:I attribute that to doing hard things in the past where you just do and I'm not talking about like huge things, I'm talking about showing up for yourself. Like I've said it a million times on this podcast and to everybody else ever, the hardest part of going for a run is putting on your shoes and getting out the door. Well, I believe that, but you just do it and then, once you have your shoes on and you're out the door, you just run. When I get in a cold bath of ice water. If I slowly walk to it and I'm like, oh God, I don't want to do it, it's going to be so cold, it's really hard and it sucks. But if I just march right in like this is what I'm doing and I don't think about it, you just get in and then you're there and then you just get control of your breathing and this was really no different. So those small things that I've practiced on a regular basis helped me in that moment say, okay, it's go time.
Speaker 2:The guy gave me the point. I handed my phone to Faith, who was like I can't believe you just went up there. She thought I was going to give her a hug and be like, oh my God, I'm so nervous. But I just marched up the steps. He gave me the point. I started singing and then you're just doing it and then you just do your thing and try not to think about it and find all of the reasons why it's scary or hard. And a lot of people do those hard things on a regular basis. Out of like almost autopilot. People do hard things and again back to like we never give ourselves a minute to think about all of the great things that we've done, or all of the hard things that we do because we don't want to get too hung up and don't get too full of yourself. Well, take a minute and think about all the hard things that you do that you don't have to do in ways that you show up for yourself, that prepare you for bigger moments, no matter what that is.
Speaker 1:I would say just from a big picture perspective, as your husband and your film guy that weekend, I just want to capture all of it, you know.
Speaker 2:But and thank you. Yeah, I mean of course All of it, you know.
Speaker 1:But and thank you. Yeah, I mean, of course, but it just seemed like you had this sense of calm and locked in this that, if I didn't know any better and I just was there and I was paying witness to this person doing the national anthem, you looked like a star. You handled yourself like a star. You treated the staff and everyone there like a star. You handled yourself like a star. You treated the staff and everyone there like a complete professional, like from from a to z. It was top notch and, of course, that's a top notch situation that you were involved in too. It wasn't some, you know, fly by night, it was like it's pretty much high level, everything.
Speaker 1:But you had your own dressing room. I was so proud of you. I mean like just just everything about it was just like literally your first gig. Yeah, as a once you decided a couple years I'm going to start singing, I'm going to put myself out there. And we didn't just go get gigs around, we just were like, let's just keep making music at home and post them online, and then your first actual gig is at Raymond James Stadium.
Speaker 2:So it's like there was no work up to that or no practice or no preseason, or I mean it was just like, okay, faith was our daughter, faith, was asking me like how will you prepare yourself for what it's going to feel like in that moment a couple of weeks before? And I'm like I don't know. She's like you need to just go out in Publix parking lot and start singing, just so you can sing in front of people and you know, I think it's just a moment where, again, I have confidence that I will show up, because I show up for myself. Yes.
Speaker 2:Also the idea of like, well, what was I going to do? It would be like I'm too scared, I can't do it. And you know, in the 11th hour, it's this idea of not like, act as if you know, fake it till you make it in a negative way, but like I have to own this. If I want this and I have this opportunity, don't blow it by being insecure. Don't blow it by being insecure, don't blow it by being scared. You know, I told, I told myself a hundred times what I share with everyone else that fear and excitement are the same thing. Your body experiences them in the same way, with rapid breathing and sweaty palms and nausea and increased heart rate and all the other things that come along with those. It's just whether you decide to lean into the fear and describe it as fear, or like lean into the thrill and the excitement of it. How do you want to frame it for yourself? And I had to choose. I had to choose to frame it as excitement. I was locked in, I was ready.
Speaker 1:Well this. What was also different about this is we were really prepared as far as, like, I had to choose. I had to choose to frame it as excitement. I was locked in, I was ready. Well, this. What was also different about this is we were really prepared as far as, like, we had a good schedule, so you knew exactly when you were going to be singing, so we got there really early and you had plenty of time to get ready and Faith was all over it.
Speaker 1:She was your stylist glam squad and I was like your you know film crew and kind of I don't know what. I was just making sure. I was making sure you had your tea and your apple and your, you know all your supplies so you'd be ready yeah, that was the cutest thing.
Speaker 2:The next day there was like a ziploc baggie on the counter. It had a bottle of honey, an apple with two bites out of it then, then I was like here right before you went out.
Speaker 1:I'm like here, take a bite.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my lipstick's on. I'm like getting ready to literally walk out the door and do my walk. And Greg's like take a bite of apple, which I'm glad you did. I wanted it. Throat coat tea. What else was in there? Tylenol and ibuprofen and a couple of protein bars and, like you said, I didn't really touch any of them, but you, you, nervously made it.
Speaker 1:When we got there, yeah, I'm like, all right, I got to eat this trail mix, but, but you were prepared, you were locked in and you had a good schedule, so there was no little landmines that were going to throw you off. So learn that from the previous experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then also standing in the tunnel getting ready to go out. They needed you there by what? 620. 620. So we went there at six.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:What time were we standing there?
Speaker 2:We left my dressing room at 613.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, it felt like we were there for a long time, yeah, okay, so we were there early, yeah, and we were ready and there was no last minute-ness.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I remember, just moments before you know, they said all right, let's walk out here. Yeah, I remember just like looking at you and it was like you know, cause we do a lot of sparring and martial arts and training and stuff and there's like this zone you kind of get into when you're throwing punches at your head and kicking and stuff. You got to be locked in and paying attention and I remember just like breathing with you, looking at you and like you got this like it's. It was like getting ready to go get in the ring, kind of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Definitely locked in in that way.
Speaker 1:Meditation, martial arts all of those things have helped me in that moment. You were, you were in the zone. I could tell you were going to nail it just because you were like, you weren't scared, you were ready, I was ready.
Speaker 2:It was a readiness and it was because of those types of things as well, and there were things earlier in the day that could have shook me. We got there early, but there was a delay in getting into the stadium for a multitude of reasons and took a little longer to get to my room than I wanted. I didn't put any makeup on or do anything to get ready before we left because I thought I'm going to have plenty of time in my room, and I did. I had plenty of time still, but like it could have rattled me that I had less time than I thought. I thought I was going to have a couple few hours. I ended up having, you know, an hour and a half maybe by the time we finally got in there and it was go time. So there were things that could have rattled me.
Speaker 2:And again it goes back to like how do you want to view things? I could have viewed that as everything's effed up and it's going to go terribly and nothing's working out, and I'm stressed out. I just took some deep breaths and every opportunity was just a new moment to just kind of like it's going to be okay. This is awesome. Like remind myself, this is awesome, like don't don't even do that to yourself, and you're right. The staff and everyone was like incredible, so that certainly helped. Everyone that I worked with individually was obviously very top-notch, professional. They all made me feel very comfortable. They all basically like anything I felt, like anything I needed. It was just kind of like appeared and I didn't need much, but when I did it was, it was there, and so without that level of support and professionalism, it could have been different too yeah, so.
Speaker 2:I'm very grateful for that. That was an amazing experience. The supercross family is is amazing, so, and it was also very special because I was surrounded by all of the people that I love. So our kids, my dad flew down for a quick trip my dad and stepmom. My mom wasn't able to make it, but she was texting me all day and all of the right things, the meaningful things were the things that were prioritized that day.
Speaker 2:That all made it even better. That all made it to me like make sense, too, that I may have wanted this 10 years ago, I may have wanted this five years ago, but I wouldn't have been ready to receive it or to seize the opportunity in the way that I was able to and show up for the opportunity in the way that I was able to this weekend because of my own personal growth, and the way that I was able to this weekend, because of my own personal growth and the things that I've practiced on a regular basis to get to this point, to be more solid and bulletproof and more zeroed in on what's important. It was a surreal out-of-body moment just for days. Now I just don't even know how to snap back to reality. Honestly.
Speaker 1:So, leading up to it, I know I knew in my heart you were going to nail it. I knew it was going to be great, I knew it was going to be awesome. You knew it was. I mean like you, just you know, you believe. But but there's also this element of like, technical issues. There's this element of like what if my voice cracks? What if you know?
Speaker 2:who knows, you can't breathe what?
Speaker 1:if I lose, you know what, if I get nervous and forget the words. I mean, there's a lot of things. So, months leading up to it, you're living life, you're doing, but you're like, you know, you've got this huge thing coming up and you, it's just the anticipation, is just oh my gosh, and you've got to show up Like you've got to.
Speaker 2:It's you a microphone, a spotlight and a crowd that's been told to stand up and be quiet.
Speaker 1:And they know all the words.
Speaker 2:And exactly how the song is supposed to sound.
Speaker 1:They're comparing you to Jennifer Hudson's version of it no pressure. Yeah, it's like the most pressure thing ever. But then there's that moment when you did it and I knew when you hit that last thing, and then like the whole place was like including me. I'm like I couldn't help myself. You know, I'm just like and, and then there's this rush of like, oh my God, you did it, oh my God, you know. And then that's like kind of where we've been for the last couple of days. But then it's like now what you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's definitely a crash, there's definitely a moment of like, and this is just one big thing that I've done. So I can't imagine someone who's had their entire career be these big moments, you know, and then, for whatever reason, it's over child star or whatever.
Speaker 1:And then you just kind of like well, what?
Speaker 2:what? Where's all this big stuff that was happening and this adrenaline that I feel like I don't know what will ever make me feel that amount of pure, genuine adrenaline? Again, I've jumped out of airplanes once. One time I've jumped out of an airplane. Let me rephrase that properly One airplane, two airplanes. But even that was like second to this that amount of like adrenaline, and so this was.
Speaker 2:This is going to be hard to top from that perspective, which is why I'm like I'm ruined, but it also motivates me to continue to stay connected to myself in this way and put myself out there and seek out other opportunities.
Speaker 2:It was already on my list of things to do. It just so happened that this opportunity kind of presented itself first, and I'm so grateful for it, and now I feel a little bit of momentum and a little bit of wind in my sails. It gets very difficult when you work in silence and when you do a lot of different things and when you don't take a moment to pause and give yourself any kind of like. And when you do a lot of different things and when you don't take a moment to pause and give yourself any kind of like, recognition that you're doing these things, it gets difficult to go without what you consider wins, and this felt like a win and it definitely helped. You know, even finishing my book feels like a win, but not like this kind of win.
Speaker 2:So this definitely helped bring in some new life into me. On the note, like you said, I hit that note in the crowd and, a little like behind the scenes of that moment I have I had in what are called in-ears. They're like really tight AirPods that you put in your ear and it blocks out all the sound. They hook around your ear and all I could hear was myself coming through the microphone on purpose, because there was like a two second delay basically from when a word would come out of my mouth and when it would actually be received into the stadium. So in order to keep myself good and be able to sing, I had to have those in so that I couldn't hear any of that or it would have been really confusing and muddy and scary and awful. So thank God for any ears, thanks for the hookup on those Feld Entertainment or Supercross or whoever, but I couldn't hear anything.
Speaker 2:I couldn't hear the crowd. There was a plane flying overhead for a large portion of the anthem that I didn't know was there. Until I listened to the video playback. I couldn't hear anything. Until I sang the part about banner yet wave. Then everybody cheered and I could hear them and in the video. It's fun to see like this smile come across my face because I'm like oh so genuine, they're there yeah and then the, the note, the free, the high note and everybody kind of went nuts.
Speaker 2:The rest of the thing that was I could hear that, but still I could only hear it like a little tiny bit compared to when I watched the video and how loud it was and that was really a cool moment if you hear somebody screaming like a little girl really loud, that was me on the video.
Speaker 1:I could, I could not and I appreciate that and as you should be.
Speaker 2:And uh, the pyro on home of the brave at the very end. I've waited my whole life for pyro. In that moment I visualized that a million times that I'm singing this big song for a big event and there's pyro. To have that actually happen is just absolutely wild. Yeah, that's another thing I I didn't touch on.
Speaker 2:But leading up to this, as we got closer, like within the 30 day mark, and I started practicing more often, I was still so nervous to practice, like even when anyone was home.
Speaker 2:I would do it when you would go pick up Ben from school and Faith was at work. I would sing by myself in our house so that you guys weren't around until like the last couple of weeks. Then I had to like get serious and just sing as often as I could, but I was using like candles and hairspray and brushes and all the things that people joke about using as microphones to practice, like how am I going to hold the microphone? How am I going to, you know, move around? I didn't know how I was going to do it when I got there because you, I didn't know how I was going to feel in front of 50,000 people practicing and visualizing that moment was a huge part of the success too, like allowing myself to see it when it was done and that it was successful and that it went well, instead of leading up to that point worrying what if I forget?
Speaker 2:what if I forget the words? What if I? My voice cracks? What if I this? What if I that I didn't feed? I didn't let myself go down that rabbit hole very often and when I would, I would bring myself back to the present moment because it was like you can't, you cannot allow yourself to believe that is what is going to happen or you're going to make it happen. And I know manifestation and hokey pokey, but I believe in the power of envisioning what you want to happen as a very strong way to prepare yourself.
Speaker 1:And you did the way you held the mic and moved and looked around, cause you know, if it's me, I'm probably going to look at one thing and just be like frozen Cause, you know, just trying not to lose my, you know. But but you did such a great job of of projecting like your vibe like looking over here and looking over here and and holding the mic off to the side, and just looking over here and looking over here and and holding the mic off to the side, and just it was like watching someone that's just done that a million times. Thank you, it was awesome, it was really good.
Speaker 2:Well, I didn't want to look at the jumbotron which was right in front of me because, one, there'd be a delay and two, who sees themselves on a jumbotron Like that would have been really weird and I don't know what I would have done. So I was being, I was trying to be sure to not look straight ahead in that way. I didn't want to, like, look in the crowd too much, cause that's a lot of people and holy shit, but it was like kind of foggy and the lights were down and it was dark and I could see people, but there, honestly, there were so many of them that you couldn't really see people.
Speaker 2:You could just see a crowd of people, and so I just kind of like stayed in my own little space.
Speaker 1:You got into it.
Speaker 2:I just found a flow state, so much so that again, I didn't realize until I listened to the playback. Like me, that was a little off. That was a little off, but it was okay. Like was, okay, like it was. I had I been so critical of myself even while I was singing, I probably would have panicked myself and you wouldn't have enjoyed it oh shit, that was flat.
Speaker 2:you just started the song with a flat note. Yeah, the rest of this is going to be shit, yeah, but I just I didn't like. I just I knew that that was there's. That doesn't serve anyone ever in the history of anything ever. So if you do that to yourself, knock it off, and that's for me too, and in that moment in the past I may have, and then All it does is rob you of excitement and joy and childlike enthusiasm for what you're doing.
Speaker 2:Right, and it's okay. Like some people might've known, it was a little flat, and other people might not have, and a lot of people didn't care, and it's fine. Nobody cares as much as I do, you know, and that's. That's a huge takeaway from this experience.
Speaker 1:And I noticed it with you, like you did not overly criticize, just generally speaking, you just really enjoyed this entire thing, from A to Z, and you really soaked it up and you've really let it kind of give you a lot of juice and energy. I've just seen it light you up in a great way, like a 12-year-old that doesn't know that they're being judged or that's being critical. They're just like I'm doing something I love to do. It feels good, All y'all hear it and y'all like it, and it's just such a pure feeling that you're vibing with it right now that it's so nice to see, like it's so healthy, like you're going to look back at this and be like wow, that was incredible. And you're going to look back and be like and I was there for it.
Speaker 1:And you're not going to look back at it and be like I wish I was there for it, but I was so critical I didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely didn't want to come out of that moment in that way. I also recognize, through myself and my own work, through you, through our kids, through therapy, like the world is harsh enough, yes, and kind of back to that, like I would never be that critical of anyone else, right, I would never point out all the flat parts or that, you know, maybe you should have worn something different or your hair didn't look right, or like I just would never do that to someone else. So why would I allow myself to do that to me?
Speaker 1:And you may have in the past.
Speaker 1:Oh, I totally would have you would have in the past and you're critical. But that's the growth and I and you're telling the truth you don't pick people apart to make yourself feel better today. That's not who you are today and that's how you're able to live that way, purely yourself. And that's taken a lot of work, because the natural tendency is to judge and criticize. Yeah, but it's like that. You're not seeing it that way. You would look at someone else doing what you just did and be like how brave yeah, how exciting for them, how cool Sounded amazing.
Speaker 1:The crowd dug it. You know, there's just so much positivity that you don't have to focus on the negative.
Speaker 2:And perhaps that's why this moment didn't happen until now Exactly, I wasn't ready to show up in that way in the past. The past versions of me weren't where I am today, to be able to receive this and to own it and to accept it for what it is. And you're right and this isn't for my own ego, but more for perspective Like the next day was the super bowl yeah and the super bowl national anthem is the most coveted moment in the history of national anthems for anyone ever ever everywhere.
Speaker 2:Maybe the olympics way to go gaga, you know what? I mean like okay, but the super bowl she did this year I think.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure she did sounds good, whatever we can say that she did some performances at the olympics and I am pretty sure that the national anthem was one of them. Regardless, the super bowl is like the pinnacle moment for a singer to do the nat into, and John Batiste did it in a Louisiana way a New Orleans a New Orleans, however you prefer to say that way and it wasn't perfect and it was heavily criticized, but it was great and he had a moment he had to decide, like there had to be a moment for him where he decided, like I have this opportunity, I want to feel great about how I show up, and I know I'm not for everyone, and how dare I alter the anthem? That's not for everyone.
Speaker 2:And that doesn't sit well with everyone, but I loved it from an art perspective of like way to show up and deliver and like I might not have felt that way in the past about him or anyone else I might've judged and criticized and, you know, thought how much better I could have done and all those things that are that bring negative energy to a situation. And I think it's easy to fall into that trap because we all relate things to ourselves and that's how we kind of see how we're doing and how we measure up, and that's fine. We use social media as a way to do that and make ourselves feel better or worse about ourselves. Again, all fine If you have a really clear vantage point or a really clear idea of keeping that in check, a way to keep that in check.
Speaker 2:Through my own evolution, it feels so much more free and so much more fulfilling to just err on the side of being positive and supportive. It comes back to you in ways that may not be directly associated with you, but through your own self-love and self-talk it certainly comes back. It's a lot to digest all of this what actually happened, and then all of the emotions afterward and then how it applies to everything else in your life that's not related to this moment, and all the things leading up to it, and then what it means going forward Like it's a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm here for it, I'm happy to have all of these feelings and yeah, but it's a lot.
Speaker 1:Well, it also shows you that people believe in you and believe in that little girl that lives in you, that's excited about singing and excited about music. The one that hasn't had any criticism or judgment, or the one that's excited about singing and excited about music, the one that hasn't had any criticism or judgment, or the one that's just pure, pure childlike wonder and enjoyment and excitement about creating music. So my hope is that you use this as a fuel store and you'll just load up your backpack full of energy, excitement, love, juice so that you can just make a ton of music with me, with other people. I hope you sing a hundred more national anthems at big events, small events, whatever. I mean it's just it's so fun to see you do it, you do it so well and yeah, I mean this is like. This is like, I feel, like a new chapter beginning where your book's now done. People are going to get to know the backstory that this hasn't just been given to you.
Speaker 2:You've you've had to work very hard and there's been a lot of ugly moments and a lot of moments of luck. And there's luck, you know luck but.
Speaker 1:But there's been a lot of dedication and seeing things through that, you know, have taken a lot of grit and determination.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and the acceptance of all of those things, that kind of again. I might not have been able to show up to this moment without those things like, as ugly as some of them are, as judged as I will be, as hard as they've been for me to accept or for us to process through. They're all a part of who I am and without them I may not be who I am.
Speaker 1:You're not stuck as the person that you were a decade ago or 20 years ago. This is like you're writing your story every day as a lifetime in itself. Live it.
Speaker 2:I want for everyone else, everyone listening for you, for our kids, for my parents, for everyone to like, fully, embrace and experience that I genuinely do. You know, I don't know what's around the corner and I don't know how long I'll be here. Or you know, things happen, bad things happen to good people, and you just don't know when that's going to happen. So every day is a lifetime and it's like I just want to make sure that everything that I'm doing is in alignment with staying happy, staying high, staying positive and inspiring, and, like I want that for everyone else, I want everyone else to know what that feels like deep down at my core, which is the reason it's a driving force for me, and like this weekend and the feeling that I have had and have, like I want to tap into that in those moments when I'm not sure and remind myself so that there's that momentum that keeps going and that's how you feel when you finish any big event.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm just, I feel very supported, I feel very loved and I feel very grateful, and now it's my turn to just continue to try to pour that back out into the world, like turn it around a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, around a little bit, yeah, well, and I think you do that in a way of not hiding from your gifts and the luck and the fortune and the good favor that you have, that you have today. You have your health and you have this beautiful singing voice and you have this tenacious attitude. So don't squander that away for the next decade and not pursue singing, because we all want to hear it.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:And that's a wrap for today's episode of the Cameo Show.
Speaker 2:It's been a little weird to be on this side of things.
Speaker 1:We hope you've enjoyed it on this side of things. We hope you've enjoyed it. Definitely, give us a like on our. I'm going to mess this up.
Speaker 2:It's hard to close out.
Speaker 1:It's hard to close out.
Speaker 2:Every week I get to this point and I stumble and I edit it out, so none of you are privy to that information. But now that you're in that chair, I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1:Don't edit this out. Please go subscribe to our YouTube channel and follow us on Instagram and it's at the cameo show podcast on Instagram.
Speaker 2:We started a new one. That's just podcast. We have the cameo show on our YouTube channel and then also go to Instagram and follow. Waiting for Elise. That is our music page that I never talk about. I just kind of like haphazardly put it out there in case somebody sees it. Waiting for Elise that is our music page that I never talk about. I just kind of like haphazardly put it out there in case somebody sees it. But today.
Speaker 1:I'm going to lay it all out there. So we're going to start leaning into this.
Speaker 2:Thank you for allowing me to be emotional, and it's weird to be in this chair.
Speaker 1:This one, you'll have to put a thing at the beginning. Of it says get your tissues. Yeah, you did great.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Everyone's so proud of you and just Thank you. You blew us all away.
Speaker 2:Thank you Till next time. Among other things on that list that were crossed off, that were 10 times bigger than I thought I could ever achieve 10 times they're crossed off the list.
