The Hot Girl's Healing Podcast
The Hot Girl’s Healing podcast is about healing in community and covers diverse topics and how they relate to healing.
Salenna Green (she/they) is an organizer, creative, speaker, healer and leader. Her work in community organizing through Salenna Green SPC, with her show The Hot Girl’s Healing podcast and The Self Love Workshop, are just a couple of ways Salenna contributes to uplifting and holding truly safe space for their community. Salenna enjoys tea, reading and vacations in her free time.
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Honoring Your Origin Story
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Knowing where and who you come from is power. You don’t have to be able to trace your history back to the 16th century to embrace and honor the stories of your elders and ancestors. Join me in talking with designer Jacquez aka JT aka Mr. Seasons, about the journey of Honoring Your Origin Story.
The Hot Girl’s Healing podcast is about healing in community and covers diverse topics, and how they relate to healing.
Salenna Green (she/they) is an organizer, creative, speaker, healer and leader. Salenna has a degree in Community Psychology and a background in nonprofit leadership and program development. Salenna is carving her own lane in the healing industry, promoting self love and relationship healing.
The Hot Girl’s Healing podcast is one of the offerings through Salenna Green SPC (SGSPC) that promotes self love and relationship healing. This podcast is for everyone but centers Black, queer people as holding truly safe space for their community was a predominant motivator for creating this show. Salenna enjoys creating art, reading, leisure and travel in their free time. Follow them on social media to stay updated! @salennagreen #HotGirlsHealing
Hello healing community. It's your girl, Selena Green, with another episode of the Hot Girls Healing Watch Chaos. Um, we in season four. We vibe in this is a podcast where we talk about various things and how they relate to healing. I am your host. And it's another episode. Today I'm really excited because I'm talking to someone that I've known in community for a while. Um, I know that this person is an artist. All of my favorite people are artists. It's a common denominator. Um uh this person is someone I'm in an art collective with, and I'm just excited to talk to you, JT. We always have a good time. So we are talking with JT today. The topic is honoring your origin story. I'm gonna allow JT to introduce himself to the people. Y'all know that. And then once he's done, we are gonna hop right into the conversation. JT, let them know what they need to know about you before we get started. And thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_05Absolutely. No, thank you for having me. I'm I'm honored, you know. Season four, you know, it's a big accomplishment. But yes, I am JT or Jaquez. You could you guys wanna be by either or I go by, you know, it no strong preference either or, you know. But yes, I I am the designer and the owner of Summer and the Fall, also seasons, clothing. Um, you know, guys seeing me around. I don't know how much more you want me to tell them. Um, you know, where do you want me?
SPEAKER_00I know you got some questions for me, so I don't want to well, honestly, what you tell people is up to you, you know. I feel like you know yourself best. Um, we all know ourselves best. So whatever you feel like people should know about you is what they should know. And then you know, everything else will come out through the conversation. So that's real.
SPEAKER_05All right. Well, I'm gonna leave it at that for now. You know, I don't know what kind of questions you got. So I'm gonna leave that there.
SPEAKER_00All right, that sounds good then. Okay, so hopping right into the topic of honoring your origins story. This is something like our origins is always relevant. You know what I mean? Always, and then like X-Men origins, okay, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not mad at it. So that's the only other origins that I've been known of. I know there's like maybe I think there's a skincare brand or something that's called origins.
SPEAKER_05No, never heard of it, but you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't have strong feelings, but I love the X-Men. So X-Men origins instantly comes to mind anytime I say the word origins. But I want to know what that means to you, and I will say what it means to me just for the sake of you know, the audience, I always love to define things like this is the premise within which we are seeking, whatever else may be beyond that. But for me, when I'm saying, you know, honoring your origin story, for me, your origin story is where did you start? You know what I mean? Where where did you begin? And I know and recognize and have experienced that everyone's origin story is not a field of sunflowers or strawberries. We know that. But where you started is always connected to where you're going, and that is something that we can honor. We can honor our journeys and we can honor every version of ourselves. And so when I'm talking about honoring my origin story, that's what I'm talking about. On some main character shit. What about you?
SPEAKER_05I mean, honestly, shoot, you kind of hit the nail on the head. I agree. It's about your beginnings, where have you started? Like, um, like you said, where you start has a lot to do about where you're trying to get to, where you're trying to finish, wherever the death, wherever that final destination is, it's about where you started. We all start from somewhere, you know what I'm saying? I agree.
SPEAKER_00Final destination to a 90s baby is crazy right now, but I'm gonna stay with it.
SPEAKER_05Just saying, just saying, wherever your final destination is, wherever it is, that one place you're trying to get to, you know what I'm saying? That's all I'm trying to say.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, you you right, that was the best words for that. But no, the the I would agree with that definition of you know, your origin story as well, and the connection to where we're going and absolutely where we rest, because I always say I want to take my last breath in the continent. Like I want to be in the continent of Africa, I want to live out the rest of my life, I want to move to the continent one day, and that has always been, you know, important to me. And it's always been for me directly related to where I come from. So I asked, what is your origin story? What is it that you are honoring when it comes to your origin story?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so what I'm honored with, my origin story is pretty much staying true to where it all started, where it all began. And sometimes, I yeah, I don't know if I should start this out because I want to confuse folks, but sometimes there's more than just one place that you're starting from. Um, you know what I mean? So I know for me, where I've started from, like, you know, I came from being poor. A lot of people may not know that. People say I'm bougie and you know, all this other stuff. Like, I I don't think so, but whatever. But I came from not having a lot. Uh I came from valuing family, you know, valuing your faith, you know, valuing all these good things. That's where I came from. So I do my best to keep that incited, keep that instilled in me. Because honestly, a lot of those things are what it's what kind of got me to where I am now. You know, my mother was a single mother. Um, she was raising me and one of my sisters. Um, and hey, that was a strong woman, you know what I mean? Like she gave it all until she couldn't no more, passed away when I was 10. So I I carry a lot of her strengths within me as well. You know what I mean? So for my origins, it it can sit there's so many pieces, you know what I mean. We could spend an hour probably talking about it. But we ain't gonna do that. So don't worry, people. It's gonna be okay. We ain't doing that. But but that that's like one piece of it, right? Another piece of it is just um remember like what it was like to uh like in terms of the clothing brand stuff, I remember what it was like to uh not be able to afford some of the name brand stuff, even though you know like we did that once a child too, but you know, we still kinda experienced that a little bit in adulthood. Um you know, just you know, I remember like like I said, there's so many people I don't know where to start right now, where to go, but just remembering like what it took for me to get here. Shoot, there's like I feel like I I I I put like um I give a little bit of um credit to me pursuing my education. That was a fight, right? That got me to where I am now. Uh, you know, when it came to the clothing brand and things like that, there was times where I'm like, man, I told the story to people, if you're familiar with it, you already know it. But one reason why I started the clothing brand was because when I was looking into my own personal style um and things that I liked, it was hard to find sometimes. So I sat down, I'm like, why don't I start my own? Why not? And um, you know, growing up in my origin, part of my origin story is also that I experienced a lot of fear growing up, meaning too afraid to have my own voice, too afraid to pursue certain things, too afraid to be as being looked at as weird, too afraid of uh the final result. Like maybe this, what if this doesn't come out the way I want it to? What if this doesn't take off the way I wanted it to? You know, so I remember those days, and I to you know when it comes to your origins, you gotta do there's things that you're gonna keep from it, there's things you're gonna take away, like meaning disperse, disp disperse of. So one of the things I'm dispersing from, I already said what I kept like my mother's strength, you know, things like that, but I'm dispersing that fear. I dealt with a lot of fear growing up. And then, you know, I feel like we all kind of deal with that when we're younger, because you know, sometimes people around us don't make fun of us for man, you want to start a clothing, man, you want to do music, you can't sing, you can't, you know. I did I had to disperse of that stuff. I disperse of those type of people, I disperse of like that energy. You know, I had to keep staying positive no matter what the results are.
SPEAKER_00Don't let certain people catch you believing in yourself.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they don't like that. They don't like that because it'll make them insecure. Like, like, damn, I don't believe in myself. How dare you believe in yourself?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I really like how you framed that. Because when I was thinking about my origin story, I was like, yeah, it is more than just the circumstances in which I originally introduced it's also what was the original version of me. Like when I came to consciousness, when I started making decisions for myself, what were my first intentions? You know, I mean, that is also my origin story when I think about that. And so I really like how you slit that up as well.
SPEAKER_05Um a little better, but you know, we on camera, so I get a little nervous.
SPEAKER_00You so funny. No, no need to at all. It's just a conversation, but for sure, for sure amongst friends. Uh, they're definitely good.
SPEAKER_05Oh, thanks. I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but relatable content on a lot of those things. I too was raised by a single mother. I too um experienced poverty growing up. I think for my family though, like she would have been fine had she not had so many kids. No judgment, right? Like, no judgment. Like I'm number 11 of 12. So had she stopped having kids, right, earlier, things would be different. So I'm not even I'm not even trying to judge this lady, but I'm just saying, like, I think in my experience, some of the things that were hard growing up was because of the size of my family and a single mom combined, which obviously wasn't what she planned. She always thought she talked about that a lot, actually. She was like, I never thought I would be a single mom. And I think that's an experience that people don't think of when they think of single moms. And for me, I don't, I'm I'm not sure what the narrative is. I'm not sure if single moms are choosing this right in the in the streets, like what the narrative is on single moms, but my mom always made it very clear that she was married, she know, or she, you know, planned to be married, she planned to be a housewife, that was what she was doing, and then life just did not turn on. So um yeah, she just I think ended up having too many kids for the situation, so yeah, poverty was right there. And she was able to be very resourceful, she was able to navigate systems to make sure that we were able to have what we needed, and uh that's something that very much is a a big part of my origin story resources, either accessing them or being a part of or distributing them, that directly tied to what it is that I'm trying to do, not only now but in the future. Um so definitely circumstances, the feelings that I felt, I felt a lot of fear in my childhood. Um, I faced a lot of neglect in my childhood. Um, which people think big family means you're always gonna have some.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00There's a lot of misconceptions of big families. Um I both like did not have any time alone or privacy and was also like neglected and just so um a lot of things that I experienced I also had to shed. And I think that is a part of honoring my origin story. How do I protect and like reconnect with that origin version of myself? You know, that there was no parts of that version of me that was internalized with fears or you know, worried about people pleasing, or these certain things that I then had to work myself out of as an adult. So I I really love not only being like, yeah, my origin is a place that I'm healing from and shedding happiness from and patterns, but it's also something that I can return to and can honor and can protect within these you know confines.
SPEAKER_04Right. I love that. I love that friend. That's beautiful.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. Yeah, it's a trip though to to honor your origin story. I think took some time for me just because um, and I don't know if this is all black families or just mine, but you might not know the origin story beyond yourself, right? Like we know our first thoughts and you know what we were experiencing as kids, but we don't always know what our parents experienced as kids. We don't always know what our grandparents were up to, and those are all things that were affecting our origin stories as well.
SPEAKER_05Exactly, because they have a lot of trauma too. You know, I've I've talked to a few people about this. It's like our parents, grandparents, they have a lot of trauma and we don't even realize it. Uh, they went through some things, experienced, you know, some moments in their lives that thankfully we don't got to go through. Some of us may have not, you know, whether it's like racism, segregation, um, a different type of poverty. Like it's there's things that they had to go through that we'd have to worry about dealing with. Um and also another thing is I can't speak for other communities, we won't speak about the black community right now, but we both can probably agree that mental health wasn't even like a thing, really, for like our parents and our grandparents, you know what I mean? Like like right now in 2026, even still, it's like uh there's a lot of uh black people, you know, from the older generation. It's like, dang, they almost treat mental health like it's a new invention because it's nothing that they stuff.
SPEAKER_00No, actually, and then at the same time in some families, like unless you're visibly displaying a mental breakdown, like no one's even taking your mental health seriously.
SPEAKER_05Like, no, no, not even not even with your physical health. Like, I know my mother went through that. My mother had an illness, and you know, people didn't believe her because she looked a little better on the outside than really what was going on internally. They didn't learn till like it was like in her last days, like, oh shit, you really sick. Yo, and it's just crazy stuff, man.
SPEAKER_00Invisible disability, invisible illnesses, it'd be so hard because we're in a culture that's like programmed to get as much information as they can without speaking to you. Like, we want to be in America, you are like top, like you should be able to tell everything about a person by looking at them. And if you can't, like you can be mad about that. Like they did something wrong.
SPEAKER_05Man, it it goes back to the basic. It's like if you you don't know until you ask, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00Exactly. We're all so much, and that's how we in our families. Like, sometimes you ask and you still don't get a clear answer, but a lot of things we don't know to ask.
SPEAKER_05Exactly. Sometimes you gotta be willing to accept that you might not get that answer. You might you gotta accept that you might not get the information that you want, and that's okay. Especially when it comes to other people's business, it's like accept that they may not feel comfortable sharing that with you. For some people, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00And is that not a way to honor it? You know, honoring, like you said, those stories and experiences that our ancestors had that in my case, I'm like, I don't even know if I would have survived some of the stuff that I know that people in my family have had. So um like knowing that my family was part of the great migration, like I'm sure that wasn't easy on any black people who had to, you know, get up and move from the South to wherever to escape violence. And the part that's insane about it is like so much of that is still prevalent to this day, but we experience it in a way that's just just different enough that we have distance from those experiences. We literally have to imagine it, you know. So there's a lot to honor in that space with just being like, yeah, you know what? Like, I know it happened, but I don't need to know the details. It's just something they can't provide.
SPEAKER_05Exactly. And then like you said, I would love to know a lot more about my own origins as well. Like, there's some things on my on my father's side. I'm not really, you know, super close with him, whatever. But but there's some things I would like to know about them. Like, you know, my family's really small on that side as compared to my mom's side, it's huge, you know. Um, but I know like my um my origins, you know, besides us being the Pacific Northwest, actually runs through the south, like most black people. You know, I want to know more about what was like down in Louisiana back in wherever time they were growing up. Because the only thing I remember is my grandmother told me that wherever they're growing up was some really small town by the bayou, some like that's all I remember, and them and a bunch of siblings. But yeah, there's there's a lot, there's a lot more that I would like to know about that. But another thing I always think about is always trying to remember my own origin so I could be able to share that with my kids when they get older. Like, they want to know how dad, how'd you start the clothing line? Or dad, how you know what was it like when you're growing up in South Seattle? Like, dad, what was it like when you know you did your first like small acting role or whatever, like whatever the case may be, like, you know, I want to be able to always remember these things. It's always good to start normalizing journaling. I know a lot of people like to journal nowadays. It's yeah, I really want to normalize journaling. I haven't been doing that for myself just yet. I did, I do I used to, but I need to get back to that because it's like it's not only for you to remember your own origins, but it's also just so you can always remember who you are too as well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, you know, too late. It's never too late to be back into journaling.
SPEAKER_05So oh no, absolutely not. I I will, I will. I can you you know what I mean. You we have so much going on. Gotta make that time, gotta make that time for it.
SPEAKER_00I was just trying to make plans with a friend. I was like, I got three days this month that I can just mess. But that's the life of an entrepreneur at times. Okay, it it's not always who you tell. But just in doing the work and honoring our stories, you know what I mean? Like for me, um, that's a lot of what inspired me to even one start this podcast, the hot girls healing podcast. I'm the hot girl. I'm the one who's healing. I'm literally honoring my I'm honoring my origin story with this podcast. Um I'm honoring my origins with the Hot Girls Healing Seattle Pilot, the the reality TV version of my podcast. I'm so the more I know about not only my family's personal history, but you know, more the more I know about black history in the US. Like, yeah, I I've always loved history, and people have always looked at me weird when I said that because they think that our history is just slavery. So they're like, Why would you like history?
SPEAKER_05No, that'd be pissing me off.
SPEAKER_00Why wouldn't I? Do you know how many things my people have done?
SPEAKER_05I'm trying to see slave movies pop up.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05I agree with you. And I and yeah, that like I said, I pissed me off because you're right. They always want to talk about slavery. It's like we were more than just slaves, you know, there's so many other different things we could talk about. That's why I was mentioning on my I used to get so mad when it was come out with a new slave movie, like a Harry Tubman movie movie, or whatever. I'm just like, y'all, can we we we've done so much? Can we talk about the inventors? Like, can we talk about like the the uh the airmen? Can we talk about like there's so many actually I think they did a movie on that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, um, I didn't watch the Harriet Tubman movie for different reasons because she's literally one of my favorite ancestors. I feel like all of us are spiritually descendants of Harriet Tubman. Oh, yeah. But I tend to agree. I don't I think that certainly the way, right, that slave movies are shocked, the stories that are being told are told a certain way. Because you know what was also happening during enslavement? A lot of resistance, a lot of results revolts. Yep, plantations was getting burned down, sure was people were getting killed, people were escaping, people were helping people escape, and why not tell the movies about that? You know what I mean? But that would be telling black history. So to tell white history, they tell the story of enslavement, of captivity, uh bondage, because that is there.
SPEAKER_05Exactly. I don't know if we have, and you correct me if wrong about have we have we had a movie yet that was made that was about you know slaves moving up north, like what that transition was like, like what what it was like for them to get there, like actually going through moving to different states just to get up north. Like, do you have do we have any movies like that yet? I'm just asking.
SPEAKER_00Not that I know of, but when I tell you 12 years a slave is about free black people in the north and how white people used to kidnap them and force them back into enslaving or not they would have never been enslaved because another thing that we don't talk about a lot is the the entirety of enslavement. There were free black people the entire time there were free black people too. So there's a lot of stories that could be told, but they actually chose to make a movie the Only one that I know of during that time is about how a black man who was free was kidnapped and then sold into enslavement for 12 years in the South and then had to like fight to become free again because you know no one was believing him when he was like exactly you know I mean all of the stories that are being told and the man mentioned I'm a I'm gonna piggyback off of that and that movie didn't got no damn good ending they still kidnapped it's a job oh we don't know what happened to him you remember that part at the end I was like come on now the man finally got free after 12 years now all of a sudden he went missing and nobody knows what happened to him we know what happened to him right so those are the those are the stories being told those are the narratives being told and honestly that's a lot of why I love producing because then I get to choose what story is told exactly I've always wanted to be an actor producer and director I did I took classes for it and like I was getting a psychology degree but there was a lot of times in college where I was like let me go over here to these art classes real quick and see what's really good so I'm not mad at you yeah I I took um some filmmaking classes in college and things like that to get me more in the production bag but I love producing I love producing this podcast I love telling our stories and highlighting it and having conversations you know I mean there's there's a lot of black history somebody could look off look up based off of this just that short part of our conversation so it's worth knowing our stories are worth knowing and telling and celebrating and our stories right like the story of enslavement is not actually our story at all the story of resistance the story of how we made it through that is actually black history and they're not telling that exactly you know but I'm definitely looking forward to your future projects though I know you say you you're you want to produce you want to act you want to write I I'm looking forward to whatever you got coming up next and also if you need a if you need an extra act or anything like that you know you know I I got to no I'm actually glad that we're circling back because not you gotta you can't say nothing it's a multi-talented miss for me like hella y'all keep doing this in the collective there's other people too where I'm like just walking up all unsuspected and then they're on stage performing and rapping and I'm like wait no because your amazing paintings are over there so how is this happening right shout out to Yolanda yes shout out to Yolanda like she is such a talented artist like her paintings are just breathtakingly gorgeous they are and then she also out here being a lyricist out here with the bars the amount of talent in this collective shout out to fancy together shout out to fancy also shout out to Chris Chris Carthurne he's the one who gave me my first acting role come on collective members supporting each other him tell us more about that yeah so how that came about so Chris he's in the cosplay uh I believe he also does tech you know he's multifaceted like majority of the people we know and um he did the A Train movie um which is the own spin off the character from the boys if anybody's ever seen the boys I just got into the boys there's a movie the fuck there's a whole other show that's a spin-off from that show I'm still I'm still like um it's like youth it's like yeah I don't know what you're talking about I forget the name of it though I forgot I can't remember the name of it either and they don't need that free promo they could exactly they y'all y'all can find it easily but yeah so he did the first one and I and I was a fan of the first one I loved what he did he made it fun and playful he also likes to make music too so then he's incorporated that into the movie and then I remember one day I told him I was like you know if you ever need an extra person because I was telling you I was like hey I can help you out he's actually I need to want to play the brother in the second one it's like shoot I'll do it because you will I was like sure alright so we got together you know we did like some some shoots and stuff like that just me dressed in like I think I think y'all probably seen on Instagram I was dressed in like uh some of the clothes for the for the character and then when we start shooting that was a whole different ballgame I never acted I never did no type of acting before never been a thesbian but when I say it was a little bit more tricky like some people think acting is easy it's not that easy it really takes some training it takes some skill but when I tell you yeah there was moments where we had to be like cut moments where we had to do like some takes a couple times over again and I had to be in a wheelchair for the movie by the way so then there was parts brother ends up yeah like in a wheelchair. Yeah I'm that far in the story so I'm not recurring but I'm right there.
SPEAKER_05You already get where I'm going. But there's times when I was in that wheelchair and I'm trying to stay in character and I'm getting hitting walls and I'm getting and I I just cut I tell my I cut let me come in let me do this over again. But but nonetheless but when I tell you that it was such a fruitful experience I really enjoyed it. I loved it and I'm always open to another roles I'm even willing to do them for free just because I actually enjoy it I actually I might actually love it but you know come on look let Chris and I be acting too slide my little card over that I'm sliding my card over to you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah we hey we can hey we can we can start producing some little short films or something you know I'm saying we can all work together I love it more collaboration we'll talk more about that but this is all directly tied to my origin story remember that version of myself that I was talking about back in the day action singer even before I realized I had asthma what you got both those yeah oh yeah we need you to perform painting like all of the art forms that I'm just now getting back into exploring more and more the um mosaic style collage type situation that I'm doing um with my photography scraps all of that I've seen that I've seen the piece you did I loved it it was a nice definitely original yeah I'm working on another one um it's it's a smaller size and I'm doing three it's a series it's called like the series is called the point like you know those posts where like they're like this is the point like this is what we're here for yeah so I got I was at a meeting you know how you be doodling yeah of course I think it says that when you doodle it actually helps you understand and retain more what you're learning so doodling does not mean we're not paying attention um but I was doodling and I started doing these little sketches of like the point and so now I'm making those sketches into new mosaic collages and so I'm really excited about that.
SPEAKER_05I can't wait to see it.
SPEAKER_00All of which is honoring me my origin version.
SPEAKER_05You got to you really have to and I love that I love what you were doing when you said that you started the fashion brand because you wanted to find or create more clothing like what you like can you talk more about your journey with fashion like is that is that your origin version so yeah it goes it goes a little bit deeper so my origin with fashion was I I've always kind of explored my own style as a young kid with what I had mind you not buying new stuff by using what I had I was like okay I don't I ain't got no money so let me see what I can put together in this closet make my own little fit so I used to do that and I used to try my best to try to come up with little new little things you know growing up you know we all go through phases like I used to go to like middle school high school I would do little phases where I ain't gonna lie sometimes I got laughed at a little bit I call myself putting something together I'm just like I didn't really let it phase me too much to be honest with you all the hey I'm like this why like hey this why this white like this is my creation I wasn't really mad at it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah but um so that was kind of part of my origins and then it took me some time to you know I tell people it's nothing wrong with figuring out your style it takes time some people expect to get it as soon as they start getting involved into fashion you don't always get it right then and there that same day that same week that same year it took me some time to get to a point where like I found my own style like okay this is how I dress this is why I everything be a journey and it's so annoying yeah exactly and you know I I maybe be vulnerable enough to talk about it you know and say like hey yeah sometimes I got laughed at sometimes I didn't like they will laugh at anything like JT when I tell you I got I also got laughed at and I'm not like I got laughed at I'm saying I got laughed at because I wore one sock that was black and one that was white my outfit was black and white kids will make money for anything I was like I'm but I like that was me trying to explain justify and that's okay and that's okay yeah relatable content I'm this actually reminds me there was a lot of times where I could tell I was cringy to other kids especially in the like adolescent area like adolescent teenage years because I've always been me you know I mean like I am that I am and it has not always been easy for people to explain like I'm a nerd yes I love reading I love books like people used to be like how come every time I see you you got a book in your hand um because a bitch like to read okay one plus one is two yeah don't don't let don't let them knock what you love and what you enjoy don't let nobody do that. Yeah because that is how you honor your origin story how you honor that inherent version of yourself is by not letting anyone change those things. Like I wasn't over here burning ants with a magnifying glass like I was wearing mince mat socks like give me some space people would be surprised about everyone's origins like yours like mine like even with the art thing people don't know like I've always been into art that's always been my thing as a child my mom bought me like a little e so she'd give me like the giant papers for me to paint on she'll give me regular colors I get watercolors she let me do my thing I've always wanted to do music.
SPEAKER_05I used to have like little guitars keyboards stuff like that because I I just want to do music. I used to just like like we said we know about the fashion part but I've always been into the art this part of my origin story like uh in high school um I used to be in an art class I think I took it a couple of times I love the class sometimes I pop in there during a period so I was a TA just to see what they're up to what they're working on what they're drawing on. And I was with that kid I spent a little bit more time on my projects because I really was into my projects to the point where there's something get to finish and my teacher was like he said I really loved the concept that you made he's I wish you would have finished it. I was excited to see it so I'm trying to get back into drawing more not just for like not I'm not talking about sketching up nothing for the clothes. I mean like getting back to me actually playing around with the pen and paper the paintings and stuff like that. I want to take the time to get really just dive back into that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah I got more into watercolor again and I remember I was taking this training and this uh the woman who was leading it she asked us to go back to when we remember falling in love with the particular art form that we were thinking about at that time. And I remember I was in like the third grade and I remember just like being in art class. It was on Wednesdays and um Wednesday was my favorite day of the week because I got to go to art class and I remember looking down at that basic Crayola watercolor palette. You know the one I'm talking about and I was just so happy painting on my little copy you know color copy or printer copy paper. They was never giving us the right actual paper to paint on no they weren't we both had that thick stuff but right I'm like now that I actually do watercolor I'm like but it's fine like we were some third graders. I get why you didn't exactly yeah but we ain't about to spend no money on that good that good product for y'all right but it was beautiful reflecting on that moment and just being like damn I really am honoring the parts of me that have always wanted to create the parts of me have that have always wanted to express and and thus honoring my origin story. Finding that out and that feeling because you know everything that we do um that is our of our origin obviously we're not keeping we already talked about that if you're you know if you are burning ants with a magnifying glass don't keep that don't keep that don't don't keep it but there's parts of yourself and this is me also promoting self-love there's parts of yourself that are at your core and there's nothing wrong with that heart nothing wrong with that heart so there's always there's always some you to love and some you to honor absolutely and then even with what you do now you know what I do with the clothing that itself has an origin too as well.
SPEAKER_05You know what I mean? And it's important to stick to that because I already be finding moments you might too like you find moments where you're starting to kind of stray away where you started from like well maybe I should start making this or maybe I should start doing my podcast like that. And then you have to remind yourself of your origin for your art. And you're like no you can't you can't stray away from that you don't ever want to stray away from where you started you want to you want to figure out how you can make it evolve.
SPEAKER_01Yeah progress.
SPEAKER_05That's why exactly that's why I had to teach myself as like nope don't because sometimes we start stray away from where we started we start doing other things that's not original. It's not organic.
SPEAKER_00Yeah because you're not even tapped into that vein of you that started and I mean it's coming from us and thus is original. So yeah that's real that's very real and again ties to the ancestors because that's a huge part of it. I found that I'm doing things that my ancestors did and and I'm doing it in a new way I'm doing it in my way but I'm doing what my ancestors did and that is so cool because we don't have to reinvent the wheel to be innovative or creative or to make something new. You can evolve something else and bump bam you got something new. You know I mean like that's right you you have to trust where you are coming from and that doesn't mean trust the environment you came from I don't neither do I it means it means trust the you that you're coming from whatever version of you that you were got to you to where you are now and this version of you wants to be the next one. So you can trust it too right to a at least to a certain degree. So that's what I'm saying like honor that honor this continuation of yourself this evolution of yourself. I I I sit in gratitude of the past versions of myself that were so sad and so discontent with their life that they chose to start their self-love healing journey and get me to where I am now I'm so grateful for those versions. Yeah me too me too those parts that those are the parts that keep you motivated that keep you hungry keep you ambitious and they keep you with your eyes on the prize. I was listening to um oh actually I wasn't listening to anything in particular I was scrolling through social media and this video of uh Kev on stage he's a comedian that I um think is funny even though he's Christian no shade to Christian see how I be saying stuff like it just don't Christian go go do that no I was raised I'm I get it but I'm just saying like I've very much moved away from all religion it's not even just Christianity I just think organized religion is not necessarily for me and it's for other people it's just not for me and that's okay but anyway yeah he is funny and he does a lot of like Christian content and so that's like anyway he was talking about what he was talking about wasn't didn't have anything to do with religion he was saying that when you are going for that goal you have to see it clearly you have to see yourself there and that is such a huge part of my manifestation journey each version of myself sees the next version of myself I see what I want my life to be I I know what it feels like tastes like look like you know I mean all the five seconds get into all of those things what does safety look like feel like taste like you know I mean go down all of it what does you know belonging what does success what does pleasure what does um trust in all of those what is what is it because you have to find that out for yourself so then you have that compass that leads you through that evolution there you go well said my sister will say it I don't know if you had a mic you drop it I know I'm fitting tonight but it's really just because of how much this is real for me. Like I really start to feel emotional and for me that's big because I was a person who just didn't with emotions for a very long time. I was like how do you feel around college time I was like so y'all be like emoting and stuff. Okay that's interesting let me let me look into this and I realized that I am a detailer and I was afraid of those feelings I just prefer not to um but I'm a passionate squirrel and there's nothing wrong with that. Not the passionate squirrel I don't know you made me think about that movie called Hoppers with the little animals that what Disney movie came out when you said that I don't know why I haven't seen that no I haven't seen that but my niece she wants to see it so I definitely know what you're gonna take her I took my god kids they they liked it they enjoyed it okay say that yeah but yeah at the end of the day just it's about honor and that but what are the things that haven't been said what would be your last word what do you want people to ruminate on when this episode ends and they go to journal their thoughts and feelings from it what I want people to take away from this is to be honest with yourself.
SPEAKER_05I know a lot of us struggle with that I know we always want to see the best versions of ourselves but we never want to see the worst parts of ourselves. So I think when you go in journal you need to be able to let it all out like let it be known who you are good and bad.
SPEAKER_00I always say if you lying to you I know you're lying to me.
SPEAKER_05Yeah exactly so don't lie to yourself and there's no reason for you to lie to yourself ain't nobody but you and yourself in that moment you have that pen and paper in your hand. So and another thing no one gotta read it no one gotta see it it's like that this is for you you're not doing this for nobody else but yourself and honestly what oh what I'm hearing so much is that if we're spending too much time and energy on judging ourselves where's the room to honor who we are and where we've been and those you know I mean like if there's no room you can't judge and honor something at the same time that's true.
SPEAKER_00You gotta choose one Buki you honoring yourself or you judging yourself Jason not instead look it and I've tried to tell people like instead of judging yourself learn how to give yourself grace yes and compassion and you'll find that you will start being able to give it to other people too exactly and that's hard to do I ain't gonna lie you know it takes a little take some practice but yes indeed because let me tell you when I was unfeeling I was also like pretty rude to myself internally like I was not kind my inner voice was not kind it was very judgmental. Anytime I didn't meet my standards I was like well you suck you know I mean like I'm I don't speak to myself that anymore like that way anymore. I don't allow myself to and thus I don't allow others to either it's it's very much a it starts here type situation.
SPEAKER_04That's right.
SPEAKER_00So um if I had my last words for y'all around this topic it would be To trust yourself. Um in honoring your origin story, you have to be able to trust who you are. And I think that um comes through reflection. I will say I feel like I knew myself pretty young. But again, like neglect. I had time to think. Okay. So I had a lot of time to think as a kid. And I think that during that time I got to know myself pretty deeply. I knew what I wanted to do, I knew what I didn't want to do. I knew who I wanted to be and who I didn't want to be by the time I was like seven. Probably six. Six was when I was like, I probably will never run for president because I don't like politics, right? So if I was thinking about my six, I was like it was figured out. Like I was thinking about it.
SPEAKER_05That's a whole different story. We don't get that we're not gonna get started.
SPEAKER_00Relatable content though, I'm telling you.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So trust yourself and get to know yourself so that you can trust yourself, right? Because who who out here trusts in something they don't know? I don't see nobody.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, you're gonna get to know yourself before you get to know other people too.
SPEAKER_00So some people yes, and I I understand moving on faith and all that. Have some faith in yourself. Right? Okay. Whatever you're doing, give it to yourself. Faith in you. Trust in yourself. What else? Okay, do it for you.
SPEAKER_05Like a dance move.
SPEAKER_00Get it from you, right?
SPEAKER_05Hit it one more time. There you go.
SPEAKER_00Rush hour?
SPEAKER_05Exactly.
SPEAKER_00But no, we play too much, y'all. Stop. Remind us what we're here for. No, I'm just kidding. We here for a good time, not a long time.
SPEAKER_05A good time, a good time.
SPEAKER_00But on that note, y'all, JT is about to let y'all know where you can find him, how you can connect with him, and what kind of stuff he's ready to collaborate on.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, well, you know, you guys can find me, of course, on Instagram. I'm gonna be real. That's where I am most of the time. If anyone who knows me well, you already know that. So you can find me on my personal page. It's jockez J A C Q E Z. And then at the beginning and the end of that, it's gonna be an X. X jocks X. That's that's my Instagram for business, for designing, for the fashion. SWF dot seasons.clothing. That's gonna be the Instagram where you'll find all my clothes anytime I'm doing any type of fashion events or you know, um, any new commercials that I drop. I'm actually working on a uh new commercial uh for some of the products I you know I haven't really promoted that well yet. But it is coming, it's in the it's in the works. We're getting started, we're still planning the date when we're gonna shoot and stuff like that. Um and then if you guys want the website, it's also gonna be on should be on both my profiles, but it's gonna be all seasonlong.shop. That's the website. You might put the http to slash slash, you know, to make it pop up, but that's that's where it is. And yeah, that's where you can find me, y'all. Um, you said what I got coming up? Is that what you said? When we had that too. What did you say?
SPEAKER_00Oh, I was saying what what you're down to collaborate on.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I'm down to okay, thank you. I couldn't remember what was next. Well, I'm down to the collaborate on. Um honestly anything. Like I said, I love art. It could be some you know, form of acting, it could be for a short film, a short play, fashion. I'm always down to collaborate on fashion, but like I always tell people, and this is not in the this is not rude, this is nothing. I business wise, I would tell anybody this I'm willing to collaborate on fashion as long as it makes sense, it has to make sense. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you if you make waffles for a living or whatever, I only get a waffle company, you're like, you know what? I want to make a coat. It's like, how can we make that make sense? This is an example. That's some brand I don't know anybody who does that, by the way. But it's like, uh okay, how can we make that sense? I want to make a bag that has waffles on it. It's like that doesn't make sense with what I create. How can our brands come together to where it makes sense?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and yeah, it's nice. Like, I have a purse, I got my husband um a shirt, which mind you, his shirts are such high quality, they're not even allowed to be called t-shirts. Like, it's literally like a luxury, like yes, clothing item.
SPEAKER_05I'll even tell the people what it's called. It's it's a French Terry fabric, it's a combination of polyester and cotton. I handpick all my own fabrics too, by the way, you guys. This is not I'm okay. I'm gonna cut those out there for the people.
SPEAKER_01Always.
SPEAKER_05Okay. I do not buy stuff wholesale. Please do not assume that. I buy people. No, I do not. I handpick the fabrics, I do all the measurements, all that fabric that you guys buy and purchase and wear for all my people who already have um, you know, one of my garments, all that stuff is cut. That fabric is cut and measured and stitched. I I I just want to throw that out there. That is not wholesale.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there's a difference, you know what I mean? And for me, I felt like I could feel that that wasn't wholesale.
SPEAKER_05But yeah, but I I've seen people because and mind you, I know that's the people who don't take their time to sit and look at it, touch it, feel it, you know, try it on. Because once the the people who do their oh yeah, I can tell this isn't, you know, you didn't just get this from Gildin or whatever. I don't know. But yeah, I'm gonna throw that out there.
SPEAKER_00Yes, it's quality fashion. It is quality. I've actually modeled um for you as well, which was a really nice. He does fashion shows as well, y'all. If you're out here in these um streets and you see him on a runway, do not be surprised. If you see his fashions out there and then him coming out at the end to do the designer walk, don't act surprised, you know.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, thank you, thank you. And I'm always looking for new models for people. You may model like you may have been behind a camera and did some like shoots and stuff like that, but I always like to welcome people who have never touched a runway before. So I think that was your first time, right? I don't remember. Was it your first time on the runway? Correct me if I'm wrong. Was it? Okay, thanks. I can remember, I can remember.
SPEAKER_00Um maybe I brought some freshness to it. I wanna see.
SPEAKER_05I can remember that I can remember if you told me it was your first time or not. That's why I asked. But you guys she did an amazing job. Selena is a natural, okay?
SPEAKER_00I actually haven't been on the runway in a while, so that was my first time back on the runway since probably like twenty three or twenty-two. Try until you know how to do it. I will say that I was turned off from uh modeling for a while, but I'm very much getting back into it. So you will see me on more runways, you'll see me. I might need you again and all that good stuff. Especially with these new projects that I'm doing. Um, a good photo shoot every once in a while just helps to promote it. So you'll see me modeling more.
SPEAKER_05We all need that.
SPEAKER_00Yes, we do. Like, we all need to see some more happy black people. And if you see me, you are seeing a happy black person. So with happy inside, y'all. Thank you for joining me, and thank you for being here, JT. This has been another episode of the Hot Girl Stealing Podcast. I'm your host, Selena Green. You can always join conversations online using the hashtag Hot GirlSealing. And if you see me out in the Seattle streets, make sure you say hey and I'll say hey back. Um, JT, again, thank you so much.
SPEAKER_01Thank you. Love you, sister.
SPEAKER_00Such a good conversation, and I appreciate you so much in community as well.
SPEAKER_05Right back at you. I appreciate you as well. Thank you for having me. It's been an honor. Keep it up, you're doing great.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. All right, healing community. I will see y'all next time. Bye.