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What If Recovery Starts With Being Heard? with Kate MIhevc Edwards
What if your “knee problem” isn’t really a knee problem at all? We sit down with Dr. Kate Mihevc Edwards, a physical therapist and board-certified orthopedic specialist who practices running medicine, to unpack how true recovery starts when we see the runner as a whole human—body, brain, schedule, stress, and story. From overuse patterns and under-fueling to identity, grief, and fear after injury, Kate shows why collaborative care with sports dietitians, psychologists, and physicians outperforms quick fixes and one-size protocols.
Kate’s own near-fatal bout of ventricular tachycardia during half-Ironman training reshaped her perspective on healthcare. She explains why so many athletes feel dismissed, how rushed appointments miss critical details, and what changes when a clinician slows down, listens deeply, and connects dots across biomechanics, nutrition, hormones, sleep, and medications. You’ll hear a striking postpartum stress fracture case involving IVF, REDs, breastfeeding, and anti-inflammatories—an example of how detective-style intake and smart education can turn confusion into progress without shaming life choices.
We also dig into practical tools. Kate shares the Run Source app, featuring guidance from 50+ experts—PTs, MDs, dietitians, coaches, psychologists—plus interactive logic that asks the questions a seasoned clinician would. She introduces Interdisciplinary Case Miles, a new show where a physician, a dietitian, and a PT break down real cases so you can learn what to ask and how to advocate for yourself. If you’ve been stuck in the injury cycle, this conversation offers a clear path: clarify your why, fuel properly, manage load, respect your mind, and build a team that talks to each other.
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Well, hello, and welcome back to the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, and we have a very special guest today. Let's see if I get that middle name right. We have Dr. Kate Miavek Edwards, and she's a physical therapist and uh board-certified orthopedic specialist, and she practices running medicine. And I'm just gonna leave it at that for now because she's got such a wealth of uh bona fidees that I think we'll just jump right into it. Dr. Kate, welcome to the show. How are you doing today?
SPEAKER_01:I'm doing great. Thanks for having me today, Joe. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_00:It's my pleasure. So running medicine, I uh sounds so interesting. You know, the the theme of this podcast is healthy living. And so we're always looking for um, you know, different pathways to find health. And it's amazing the things that are considered medicine from plants to practices to exercise to diets, foods, all of it. So uh why don't you share with us a little bit about, you know, what brought you here? I like to always kind of hear our guest Genesis story.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, sure. So I do running medicine, which is just a niche practice in physical therapy. And what I love about running medicine is that it is the place where a lot of multidisciplinary care occurs. So it's not uh most running injuries are all over the place. They're overuse injuries, or they're because of stress, or they're because of poor eating habits, or maybe it's a biomechanical issue. So none of these injuries can really be solved by one person. And so it really creates a place where we can work together as a team across different medical borders and learn from each other so that our patients and our clients can really live a healthier life. So many of the people that I see end up seeing a sports dietitian or somebody to talk about like what they should be doing in terms of eating to making sure that they're fueling their body enough to do what they want for exercise. Or I may refer to somebody for a sports psychologist because they're having a hard time. Uh, if they're injured, maybe that it's so tied to their identity of who they are as a person and they can no longer run. Um, they may have to speak with someone. So that's what I love about running medicine and what I do every day. But I started because I was a runner and triathlete myself. And um I mean, I think that's kind of what always brings us. It's life experience that brings us to where we are.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's what I was gonna get to is um, you know, like you got all these credentials and a physical therapist and a orthopedic specialist and all of these things that overlap with running, but not necessarily focus on that. And uh so you're a runner by by by nature.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so I um I didn't run in high school because we didn't have I went to such a small high school that we didn't have a team. So I actually ran. I ran, but we did there was no team or a coach or anything like that. So it's um so I kind of had to figure it out on my own. But then it was in college that I started to run like bigger races, like half marathons. And eventually after that, I did a marathon. And my coach in college was actually, or right after college, was actually a physical therapist. So I didn't go to college to be a physical therapist. I went to college and studied sports photography, actually, and market and marketing, which is really funny. Um, but then I fell in love with running and I just couldn't let it go. And my coach let me shadow her in clinic. And I thought, oh my God, this is what I love. This is what I want to do, is be able to help people through this. So that's how I landed it. But then about 10 years ago, I nearly died training for a half iron man. And yeah, so it was really scary. I went into ventricular tachycardia on a run.
SPEAKER_00:Wow. Um, it took about your heart just starts beating wild and the rhythm isn't right, you're not getting the blood flow, and everything's all like you lose it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. My heart rate, like I could I could see my heart beating outside of my chest. It it was the strangest thing. And I looked at my Garmin and it was uh 300 beats per minute, and then it stopped tracking.
SPEAKER_00:Whoa.
SPEAKER_01:So I thought it was broken. I didn't actually, you know, in that moment you look at it and you're like, there's no way this is possible.
SPEAKER_00:So I thought that fast. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And so I thought it was broken and I sat down on my front steps and I didn't feel good. So I knew something was wrong. I was dizzy, I was disoriented. But then my heart rate converted back and I didn't do anything immediately. It wasn't until the next day that I went to clinic and I told my colleagues, and they were like, What is wrong with you? Why aren't you at the Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Why aren't you strapped up to an EKG and figuring out what the hell's wrong with you?
SPEAKER_01:But I think that this is where how I practice now comes from. As an athlete, um, I was blaming myself. I was saying, oh, you must have trained wrong or you must have done something. And we have this idea that we can just push through anything and just right. And we can in a lot of ways.
SPEAKER_00:Most of the time that's that's accurate. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And so I was right. And then so it took about 10 months to diagnose what I had, and it's a rare genetic heart disease. Oh, wow. During that time, I felt like I was losing pieces of myself. Um, I couldn't run, I couldn't train, I couldn't be with my friends. My whole world was about running. And it was a really reflective time for me in terms of like what was important and how I wanted to be treated as a patient because I often felt like I wasn't, people weren't listening to me. And um, I went all these tests and everything was negative. And then there was so much anxiety around it. And so that process really changed who I was as a therapist as well, and um changed the trajectory of my life and and how I treat it.
SPEAKER_00:That's pretty common with patients, you know. Um I'm going through uh, you know, recovering from a very aggressive cancer, and um all the doctors I've talked to, and you know, I mean, I'm doing my own research and finding my own answers, and you try to share that with a doctor, and most of the time they're just like, I don't know what you're even talking about, you know, or yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, the pat you on the head and say, you know, you go do your thing, but here's what we're gonna do. Like you just get talked down to by so many, you know, doctors and clinicians.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, I think that that is one of the number one things that's wrong with our system, but I think it's a I think it is a product of our system, our healthcare system, because um we don't have a lot of providers don't have time. They would spend more time, but they don't have it because of the system that they're in.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, it's a whole metric thing. I mean, like they got a caseload that is probably twice what they can really handle and they got to get through it, you know, it's their contract, it's their whatever, and gives you five minutes with everybody pretty much.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and and so what happens is as patients, we get lost in translation and we feel like we have to do the research on our on our own, and we feel like nobody's listening to us and we feel lost, and that can create so many other issues when we really just need to someone to listen to us and give us a plan. And if they don't know the answer, that's okay, but they have to be willing to look for an answer or maybe collaborate with you to find it.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. And that's like old school, like you know, you think about the classic country doctor, you know, that would come over to your house and have dinner with your family, and you know, they're they're like a detective, you know, they're spending time watching what you're doing, listening, smelling, hearing, seeing what you're eating, and then all of a sudden, oh yeah, it looks like. But today you get a little survey to fill out, and it says, Do you have you? And the doctor doesn't know if you're telling the truth, and you don't know if you're getting the answers right. And maybe you didn't understand something. And my God, it's just such a disconnect.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And so that's what it's not, that is not how it is at my clinic. And it's on purpose, and it's because of my experience, and it's because of how I believe we should treat our patients. And I work outside the insurance system, and that so it allows me to do that. Unfortunate, unfortunately, that's how we have to do it in order to provide this type of care.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, so that's what we do, and we spend a lot of time on that. And it's funny you said the country doctor, because um, where I live, I live in this uh small health and wellness community in Georgia. Nice, right outside of Atlanta. And um, we have all these intramural sports and people like you know, 30s, 40s, 50s playing. So they're always getting hurt, always. And I have a medical, like I'm like I have a bag and I get a message, like I'll get a call and I actually get on. We have golf carts. So I get on my golf cart and I drive up to the field and I assess the patients on field.
SPEAKER_00:Love it, love it, love it, love it, I love it. You know what's funny? This podcast is sort of creating an or not creating, but weaving a network of practitioners that have that, I don't know, work ethic or practice ethic of connecting with people. And I think that it's it's wonderful that you found your way here because that's I think what we need a lot more of.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, me too. And that's, I mean, that's part of why I've got all those things in my bio and everything, is because I um, you know, at first I was treating, you know, one patient at a time and doing this for for one patient at a time. And then I just kept realizing how um bad the system was and how many people were frustrated and upset. And so then I, you know, opened a clinic and started mentoring so that there were more people that could do what I was doing. And um, and then that led me to all the other stuff, like the research and the teaching. And so um, I do think it's so very important. And um, that's why our voices have to be out there, and that's why we have to do, you know, sometimes step out of the patient room uh and do some of it so we can help on a larger scale.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's fantastic. And then I suspect you probably have a network of practitioners that share your your ideals or your values about this, and and you know, the thing is, is like the world of practitioners and physicians has become so specialized. Like it used to be you were a general practitioner and you just kind of went in and see what's wrong and you kind of knew a little bit about everything and you you found your way to an answer. But nowadays everybody's gotten their you know their their specialists or their specialty. And but if you got a network of other specialists around you, if it goes outside of what you're comfortable in being really good at, you can hand it over to somebody else who's really good at that other thing.
SPEAKER_01:Or just, I mean, I do a lot of phone calls, right? So I have my providers that I work with on a regular basis, and they're almost every day. I call my physician friends or my dietitian friends or my sports psychologist friends, and they'll say, Hey, I've got this case. What do you think about it? Is this someone you should see? Or, you know what I mean, just to try to. And so I I think that's the other piece that's missing in medicine that's happening in in running medicine. So um, is that we collaborate so very much. And um, I think that that is kind of bringing it back where we we over-specialized and now we realize that okay, you can't look at everybody in a vacuum. And if someone presents with a knee injury, it's not a knee injury, it's a human that happened to have a hurt knee.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. And and I think that, you know, so much of Western medicine is um symptomatic um focused. And so you go to a doctor, you say, I have a pain right here, and the doctor treats your pain. But that maybe has nothing to do with what caused the pain. And it may never address the source of the pain or alleviate that pain. It just, you know, can cover it up or make it bearable, or you know, maybe sometimes make it worse because you mask it and you keep doing the thing that's causing the problem. So I think when we start looking at it from a more holistic approach and saying, well, you know, why don't we try to get to the bottom of this? You know, I mean, and again, I think more and more people that I'm I'm talking to on this show are looking at that, you know, the source of the problem, source of the injury, disease, whatever it is, and and and really get to a healing rather than just um a treatment.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. I mean it's so often um that book, you know, the body keeps the score, you know, that book. Yeah. I think it's a a great book and it's a great jumping point for people who really don't get that how you think, your mindset, your beliefs, like what you do in your everyday life can truly impact the pain that you're having. Oh, yeah. And um, so understanding that relationship is so important and then be willing, uh be willing to ask the questions so that, and then waiting for the answers and diving through and listening to those answers and seeing, like, okay, well, like you said, like I feel like I'm a detective. I always tell my patients, today is the day for me to be a detective. Right. I'm going to figure out what's going on. We're going to have a lot of conversation, and then we will figure out the treatment plan. But first I need to understand and get into it. And and it might feel like we're doing a lot of talking, but if I don't hear you, then I won't know how to help you because your body and you will probably tell me what's wrong without even realizing it.
SPEAKER_00:Right. No, I I again going through this cancer that I've I'm going through, I've dealt with many oncologists and from many different places because I'm not going to stop till I am done. And so I, you know, I find out one doctor in a in a 20-minute consultation will come up with a treatment plan. And I'm like, dude, it took me 20 years to build this tumor. You're going to tell me what we're going to do in 20 minutes. Like, I don't know if that's going to be the right way. But it seems like rather than, and I never really felt like most of them vested their interest in solving my problem. Like, they have like a target that says, well, you fit in this box. Here's our standard of care that we offer for that. And here's your chance of survival. Here's all the negative things you're going to probably have to deal with. Do you agree to this? And I'm like, no, you know, I'm not going there just yet. Let me keep working. I'll get back to you. And but I'm a rare breed of patient where I'm my own advocate and I I have, you know, a lust for life that I'm gonna find my answer. It'd be great if a doctor would do that as well. And finally, I found a doctor that's doing that with me, but it took me a long time and and a number of miracles. Most people don't have the wherewithal for that. So for the people that stumble into your arena, I I would consider them fortunate. Um, I'd like to talk about these patients, you know. Um tell me about how you know you're you're you're dealing with this network through the university, Emory University. Is that correct?
SPEAKER_01:So I actually know. So I am an adjunct adjunct faculty at Emory. Um so I and I went to Emory School of Medicine. And then I also lecture, you know, I lecture there sometimes. But uh the way that it works for us is I have a private practice. Okay. Um, it's called precision performance. It used to be precision performance and physical therapy, but this is actually really interesting. Um, people don't really like have this good idea about what physical therapists do. And I don't think that they really understand what people and stretching, and that's about it, right? Right. And so I took physical therapy out of our name because I know that we do we do so much more anyway, but we do physical therapy, but it's also lifestyle medicine types of things. And that so people just didn't know what to do with us because we didn't fit in the box. Um so I I own precision performance running medicine clinic. We have two clinics, and then I also, in terms of patients, I also consult on like cases. So um throughout the country. So if somebody has a case that they're they're really stuck on, so you know, we can use the knee, for example, again, but like a knee or like a bone stress injury or um, you know, hip injury or back injury that's been around for a really long time and they've seen a ton of practitioners and they just feel lost and they don't know what to do, and they don't they hear all this conflicting advice. So those are the people that I will do, I'll consult with. So I'll do like a 15-minute consult with them for free, and then we'll decide if we're a good fit. And then if we are, we can move forward and work together.
SPEAKER_00:And then I will look that you even do that. I mean, I've paid$400 for a 15-minute consultation with somebody I never even worked with, you know. I was like, well, that was a waste of money, you know. And but I mean California too, everything's so darn expensive out here.
SPEAKER_01:It is well, it's also expensive here, so yeah, yeah. Um but yeah, so no, that's well, I just think that you have to get to know each other a little bit. And 15 minutes is never enough time, let's be honest. But I mean, and honestly, yeah, yeah, you have an idea of if you guys will connect and if you feel like you can help them. And so I wouldn't want to work with somebody that I didn't feel like I could help. I would like to send them to somebody else that might be more helpful. Um, because again, I am a physical therapist, I'm not an MD or I'm not an oncologist. So I, you know, but um I will look through all of their medical history, all of their patient visits, all their it takes me a very long time, but I go through everything. Um, and then I have them, you know, fill out a questionnaire and then we meet for an hour and we talk through things, um, I get more ideas about what's happening, I clear things up that maybe I saw in the in the um notes, and then we figure out where we're gonna go from there. And I build out plans, whether it's a return to run program or strength or something else. But even my return to run programs like include a column about mental health, like, hey, what are you doing for yourself? Um, so there it's not like typical in terms of um how most people look at things and handle things.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I noticed that um in in some of the things I was looking at through yours, you were talking about how mental health and physical health are intertwined. And I I I can't agree with that more. You know, um, so many ailments, whatever it is, whether it's a disease or an injury or some combination, are at very least exacerbated by, if not caused by, some kind of trauma, some kind of mental issue. Um, and you know, things like sleep and diet are generally connected to your mental state as well. So I really am impressed that you're connecting this. How do you generally address that?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, through a lot of different ways. First of all, we just like I said, uh talk through it and and really get an understanding. So I'd like to find out why people do things. Um, when we can start there, then we can start to uncover patterns and and figure out, like, okay, why are they doing this? Why are they not prioritizing their sleep? Why are they eating this way? You know what I mean? So I'll often say that. So for an in, for instance, a runner, like why most running injuries are overuse, which means they're doing too much, too fast all the time, maybe not all the other things, right? Right. So I will so I'll ask someone, well, why do you feel the need?
SPEAKER_00:Right, right. Why do you keep doing this thing that's causing you pain?
SPEAKER_01:Right. And sometimes just having that conversation is a great um starting point. So why? And they may not know the answer. So we dig into that a little bit. And then and then figuring out the why behind that, and we'll say, okay, well, maybe we could have a different strategy around this. Maybe I'm not going to take away something that you love, but we need to figure out what else you like to do so that you don't feel like you need to do this one thing all the time that's like putting you into so much pain. And so, you know what I mean? And so, like, how do I get there? It's different for everybody, but it's it's a lot of really digging in conversation, figuring out what that person needs. And honestly, Joe, sometimes they just need to be heard. And sometimes they um they just need to figure out like what everything means so that there's not so much fear around it. Like all the like um, I had someone who has a stress fracture recently. I've got a lot of people that do, but um, this one client um had a stress fracture, and uh this stress stress fracture was caused for a lot of reasons overtraining, but also um they recently had a baby and uh beforehand they were on um IVF drugs to um have the baby or to get pregnant, and they had something called reds, which is uh relative uh uh energy deficiency in sport, which means they're not eating enough, getting enough fuel. And so all of these things impact how the bone heals. But not many people, the person that referred her to me was somebody that understood this. But before that, nobody even connected that the IVF drugs could be impacting her bone health. Nobody connected that, you know, breastfeeding is part of it. So it's like it's it's truly like you said, being a detective, looking at all the pieces and then figuring out why, and then educating the patient or the client on what is causing these things so that they can make the decisions that they need to make. And sometimes, you know, like she's gonna continue breastfeeding. So that's fine. We just build her program differently so that we can accommodate that. But um, just having the knowledge is so much so important. She none of her doctors told her that IVF drugs impact that or that you know what I mean? Like, and then one of them even gave her a um an in um gave her a uh anti-inflammatory drug.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, geez.
SPEAKER_01:Something else going on, but that impacts bone reabsorption. And so it was just like there's a major disconnect about what people are doing and what's happening in their clients or their patient's body.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it's also a reflection on the drug-centered treatment of most physicians and the interaction between different drugs and the complications that come from these cocktails that patient ended up taking. And they might be going to three different doctors, and the patient might forget to tell one doctor that I'm taking this out, or they might not even remember, you know. And then all of a sudden, you know, we're taking cocktails of things that don't belong together, and and you end up with all these, you know, secondary, tertiary uh uh problems that come out of it. Well, listen, we are getting a little light on time, but we're gonna go a little long. And I think we're I like where we're going. Um, I wanted to talk about your uh Run Source app. I'm not sure what that's about, but why don't you share a little bit about that?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, sure. So I um actually right now it's up in the Apple store getting the final, we're doing the final testing before um the second version is released, but it's essentially a way that people can um get the education from a multidisciplinary team, even if they don't have the resources or they're not in an area that has people that know this. Um, so it's just another way to help people. So it's an app that has over 50 running experts across the country that are dietitians, MDs, PTs, yoga instructors, um, meditation instructors, uh, sports psychologists, coaches, um, running shoe specialists, and all of everybody has come together on this platform and shared their knowledge about how to stay injury free. And also, uh, if you're already injured, I built out programs that include the education from all of these different uh providers, in addition to like strength plans, return to run plans, and then this version, you can ask it questions uh based on my clinical reasoning and you know, 15, 16 plus years of treating, and then um a lot of the research that's available about all of these. So you can say, hey, I've got pain in my butt. Um and it'll say, Well, where is it? And it'll ask you all the questions that I would ask. Right. Um, and then it'll give you an idea of what it might be, and then it'll say, These are the resources on the app that you can use to look at it. Sweet. And the reason that I did this is because I'm not trying to uh replace healthcare providers, but only about 25% of runners even go to a healthcare provider. Right. So there's this big gap, and it's uh they're searching Google and Chat GPT and all these places and they're not giving good information.
SPEAKER_00:FMD or something like that. They don't ask all the right questions, and they get thrown down the same rabbit hole that the doctors would give you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, or that you would so this is a little bit more, it's a closed container, you can ask it questions. Um, and you know, um, it's just like everything else, it probably won't be right 100% of the time, but it'll give you good guidance and good information from from trusted sources. Right. Um, and it's really inexpensive because um, you know, some healthcare is very expensive.
SPEAKER_00:I get it, I get it. Now you've got a new podcast coming out, or that is Al, why don't you tell us a little bit about that?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so it's called Interdisciplinary Case Miles, and it's with a sports dietitian and a running medicine physician. And the three of us go through difficult cases and break them down and tell people like what they should like so that if you had, say, an injury, uh, you could submit a case and we would go through it and we would tell you all the all the things that we think should happen. And we're all the kind of providers that I am. So we think outside the box. And so we'll say, okay, this person, this is what I would look at. And then the doctor will say this is what I look at, and the dietitian says this is what I would look at. And it gives people ideas about questions they can ask when they go to providers, or if something isn't working, they can, you know, they can hear this and have other ideas about what to do.
SPEAKER_00:Nice. I think that's a that's a a useful resource. I always like to um, you know, in a situation where we have a practitioner um share maybe a story of a case that just was particularly impactful. Uh somebody came to you and you were able to help them in a meaningful way.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so I'm lucky that I have a lot of those. So I'm trying to think of a recent one. Um, okay, so I have a case that I'm still actually working through, but it's already going, you know, really well. So I started working with somebody um remotely, like as a client, um, someone I was consulting with, that um running is a um a really big part of their life. Uh their single mom, they're stressed out. They have um, they don't have a lot of um ways to manage that stress in their life. And they had um a big hamstring injury. So she, so this person couldn't run, couldn't bike, couldn't do anything. And so she's you know, feeling her friend group is there, she can't go hang out with her friends, she can't do any of this stuff. So she's been seeing lots of providers and nothing happened. And then somebody knew me, and she, you know, we did a consult and then we started working together. And we've been working together for just over four weeks. And she um and I had an incredible conversation last week, I think it was. She's 50% better in four weeks. I haven't even I haven't even touched her. It's just through, it's just through education, building out a plan, uh, you know, giving her the tools she needs to help herself get better. And um, she said, I feel like myself again. I'm able to engage with my friends, I'm able to manage my stress better, and my whole life feels better. And um, that's pretty impactful. When you get to do that for somebody, it's uh like why I do what I do.
SPEAKER_00:I love it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Well, if um you could take all of this and wrap it up into uh a central thought um for our listeners, what would that look like?
SPEAKER_01:That would look like um be an advocate for yourself. And just because um somebody says something or you're with a healthcare provider, and if it you know, if it doesn't feel right, it probably isn't. Now, that's not to say you won't hear things you don't like, because that's because that does happen. But there's nothing wrong with getting a second opinion. There's nothing wrong with asking a lot of questions. And if someone's not listening to you and you don't feel engaged, they're probably not the right person for you.
SPEAKER_00:I couldn't agree more. I always say everybody should needs to be their own advocate and you know treat yourself like you would want to take care of your daughter or, you know, somebody that you just really love that couldn't take care of themselves and you know go after it. You know, the you hire these people, they don't hire you. And to remember that. That's beautiful. Well, why don't you uh share again with all the the different uh ways people can reach you and uh all the all the points of contact?
SPEAKER_01:Sure. So it's my name. Uh my Instagram is KateMhivik Edwards. Mehivik is M-I-H-E-V-C. Um, and that's actually my website as well, KateMahivik Edwards.com. And that has all of my businesses, my consulting, my running medicine clinic, my app, my podcast, all that's in that one place. So you don't have to search far for all of that.
SPEAKER_00:Beautiful, beautiful. Well, Kate, I really appreciate you coming on board. And again, my invitation is open. It sounds like we could talk for hours and hours about so many different things. So anytime that you're interested in coming back and continuing this, please feel free to reach out. And uh just want to say thank you for uh sharing your time with us.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, thank you so much, Joe. I really appreciate it too.
SPEAKER_00:Beautiful. This has been another episode of the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine. I want to thank all of our listeners for making the show possible. And we will see you next time.
