Health Is An Investment, Not An Expense with Ari Rastegar

What if the fastest way to level up your career, relationships, and energy is to treat your body like your most valuable asset? We sit down with Ari Rastigar—entrepreneur, author of The Gift of Failure, and committed biohacker—to map a clear, no‑nonsense path from burnout to durable health. Ari’s story starts with a bloodwork wake‑up call and evolves into a system that’s simple enough to start today and strong enough to change your life.

We unpack the fundamentals that quietly do the heavy lifting. Clean water comes first: distill, remineralize with Celtic salt, add lime, and drink half your body weight in ounces. Pair it with a filtered shower head to protect your skin. Breathe better by upgrading HVAC filters and adding an affordable HEPA unit. Then make food a strategy, not a splurge—Costco wild salmon, organic frozen vegetables, sweet potatoes, and avocado can fuel a full week for pocket change. If time is tight, blend a pot of vegetable soup and sip it like coffee.

Ari shines a light on posture and alignment as a missing pillar. Short Egoscue‑style routines open the chest, level the hips, and free the “hoses” your organs rely on, improving breath, digestion, and circulation. For advanced recovery, he breaks down when hyperbaric oxygen therapy actually works: hard chambers only, 60–90 minutes per session, at least 40 sessions for change and 80+ in close succession for long‑term gains in angiogenesis and neuroplasticity. No consistency, no results.

Finally, we outline a focused supplement core that supports the basics: a high‑quality multivitamin, extra vitamin D, DHEA under professional guidance, omega‑3 fish oil, and the gut duo of prebiotic plus probiotic so beneficial bacteria can colonize. Throughout, Ari returns to the same principle: every healthy choice is a deposit in your personal endowment. Make those deposits daily and watch the yield show up in clearer thinking, stronger relationships, and steadier drive.

If this conversation helps you rethink your routine, share it with a friend who needs a simple starting point, subscribe for more grounded health strategies, and leave a review to tell us which habit you’ll try first.

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SPEAKER_01 0:12

Well, hello and welcome to the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, and we've got a very special guest today. His name's Ari Rostiger. I hope I said your name right. I usually check and I didn't this time, so I messed up there, but uh I didn't. Oh bad. Too bad. Anyways, Forbes calls Ari the Oracle of Austin, but beyond business success, Ari is deeply focused on his inner work that sustains long-term growth and fulfillment. After building a multi-billion dollar company from a$3,500 student loan, he's learned firsthand how pressure, failure, and uncertainty can become powerful teachers when approached with intention and self-awareness. Ari is the author of The Gift of Failure, a Wall Street journal in USA Today bestseller that explores resilience, accountability, and the mindset shifts required to grow through life's changing moments. Through his work and conversations, Ari helps people reframe adversity, strength, and emotional discipline, and build a healthy relationship with success from the inside out. Ari, welcome to the show. That sounds like uh quite a quite an intro to follow.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

I appreciate it. I appreciate it, Joe. Thanks for having me, buddy.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Well, now we were talking a little bit prior to this interview, and uh it seems that you're uh quite the biohacker. I really want to jump into that. That's uh a little topic that's near and dear to my heart. Um, why don't you give us a little bit of an overview? Like, where'd you come from? You know, you're what you've you've accomplished a lot.

Early Health Scares And Mindset Shift

Family Roots In Wellness

SPEAKER_00 1:49

I appreciate that. Um, look, and I and I think to your point, you know, this healthy living, this, you know, this wellness approach, you know, without it, I think the amount of work that I spent, even just through, you know, college and law school and the early years of being a founder were just so intense and ravaged my health and my mind, both mentally, physically, um, spiritually, just wrecked me to hell to where if it wasn't for these practices, um, it wouldn't have been possible. So I very much equate, you know, and I know it sounds corny, but Ralph Waldo Emerson said, you know, health is wealth. And, you know, and and it's as you know, I know in your journey and overcoming, you know, some your some health issues, I've had some in my, you know, in my life as well. And I think one of the greatest blessings in life is having a little health scare early to know that you can kind of, you know, and you know, so in a way, I know that sounds fucked up, but you know, if you can be a little bit sick, hopefully not too much, and figure it out early enough, your life gets better. And um and so, and so I think the net net is I was very fortunate that in my house, my dad raised me as a single dad. I kind of jumped between, you know, divorced parents, but both my parents separately were very health conscious. So I feel extremely blessed to, you know, to where vitamins were a common word in my house as a kid. Don't eat sugar. And, you know, we obviously snuck junk, we're kids, but but at least my parents, you know, my mother was a homeopathist. And so, you know, homeopathy and herbs, and this my dad was a massage therapist before law school. You know, so you know, and this is before that was cool to do any of that stuff. Like I grew up in a in Austin, a little sleepy hippie town. Um, you know, and so that is at least in my DNA. So when I went off and, you know, uh was delivering pizzas and flipping burgers and living the college life and you know, being a maniac, somewhere in my mind, in my seat of consciousness, you know, meditation was always a word that was active in our home. Um, you know, as I said, just eating certain ways. And my parents were both vegetarians before it was cool to be vegetarian, and they've since become, you know, whatever they are. But, you know, so these types of things I feel very fortunate for. So about 10 years ago, um, when I was, you know, neck deep in starting this business, which scanned spans across 38 cities, 13 states, seven different asset classes, um, is a very, very large platform. One of my clients, actually, you know, before the public pension plans and insurance companies is a very famous spinal neurosurgeon, spinal doc uh surgeon that built an incredible age management practice kind of just for fun. You know, his mother was a um, you know, Holocaust survivor. He was just this, you know, Johns Hopkins um graduate medical, just this beautiful man, Dr. Jacob Rosenstein. And he kind of said to me, He's like, I love your business plan. This is great. You know, I'll invest with you, this, that, and the other. But like, do you feel okay? You know, and he's like, I'm gonna, if I'm gonna put this kind of money with you, I gotta make sure you're alive. Right, right. You know, and tested my blood. And, you know, cholesterol was fucked, testosterone was low, inflammation was high. And I thought I was a pretty thin, relatively fit guy. Like, yeah, and um, and that got me on the journey of high-quality nutraceuticals, taking food sensitivity tests and starting to manage my blood like I would manage an investment, you know, and um started to take a very tactical approach and um to how I dealt with this and the biohacking stuff like hyperbaric chambers and um you know, all this kind of stuff became a hobby, right? Like, and I've come in my journey that it's pretty simple, like drink some pretty high quality water and you can buy a distiller. You can buy an Amazon a distiller on Amazon for a hundred bucks. You can put you know, some electrolytes in it. I buy, you know, organic chicken and wild-caught salmon at Costco. Like it's not rocket science, it doesn't have to cost a gazillion dollars to get, you know, 80%, you know, Pareto principle of the of the things. Move your body vigorously, whether you do, I don't know, Pilates or CrossFit, that's whatever, but moving your body a little bit. Um and, you know, and and and I've just lived it. I'm 43 years old. I feel better than I've ever felt in my life. And I can tell you firsthand that the better I felt, you know, through my work, either with Dr. Joe Dispenza doing um, you know, meditation work or transcendental meditation work or Tony Robbins stuff, the better I felt, the more I could give. You know, the better I felt in my heart, I felt the better my business relationships. And so this is absolutely an investment. And I think that's where me, why are you listening to some dumb investment guy talk about wellness? And I think the reason why is I wish people could look at it as an investment, not this other thing, like, oh my health, I gotta go to the gym. It's like, no, no, no, you're making a deposit in the bank account of your life, you know, because if you don't have your health, you don't have shit. And you know, so true.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

It's uh it it's you know, I turned 60 this year, and um, you know, if I could rewind to what I did in my 20s and 30s, I I likely wouldn't have gone through some of the stuff I've been through. But here we are today, you know.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Maybe you wouldn't have had as much fun either.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

So I would not have. And and and we are who we are because of what we did. So I I have no regrets. At the end of the day, I started biohacking about eight years ago after my dad died, and I I needed to lose some weight and started, you know, getting into nutrition, things I already knew. And I I I began down that journey. Um, you you mentioned a lot of things that are, you know, very familiar to me. I'm sure some of our listeners are, but I'd really like to jump into some of your regimen and the things that sure. Um, you know, even how you found some of these things, you know. I I did a lot of research and and started listening to, you know, certain people that are biohackers and listening to, you know, there's all these different schools of thought. And there are.

Bloodwork Wake-Up And Biohacking Start

Simple, Affordable Health Fundamentals

SPEAKER_00 8:10

I'm glad you said that. And I I've kind of, you know, I've gone down the rabbit hole. Okay. And um, you know, a lot of these biohackers are very close friends of mine um that I've got to know over the years in certain ways. One of the things of, you know, from a guy that very I'm a nobody from nowhere. Like I don't have any special skills. I didn't grow up well. You know, I, you know, maybe I worked my ass off and I got pretty lucky, if you know what I mean. But I guess one of the privileges of running a big company is, you know, people take your meetings. So, you know, they, you know, so and I've, you know, I've used that to my advantage and to meet with smart people. Um, and I kind of look at it at this point now of, you know, what are people trying to sell you versus as regular people, me as a regular guy, you as a as a regular guy, what can I do if I'm listening to this thing on YouTube today, that's really gonna move the needle? Like pontificating about, you know, uh stem cell,$150,000 stem cell infusions in Mexico. I and trust me, I've done a lot of these things. But it if you're not doing, in my experience, using the real estate analogy, the foundational stuff, none of that shit works. It's it's just not you, you it's not gonna, so so keeping it very granular, I look at the hierarchy. The hierarchy of this human ecosystem, and you know, the mental and the spiritual is another side, which is absolutely imperative. Anybody listening to this that has not done work with Dr. Joe Dispenza, buy his buy his online progressive course. It'll be one of the best investments you ever make. Give yourself the gift to go to a seven-day retreat. If you have health ailments, mental health ailments, or you just want to feel better. It has been one of the greatest gifts of my life is learning this practice and do it. I practice it every single day. But putting that aside, the physical, you know, the body as a biological being, let's just put it the biology of being human for a second. There's a few hierarchies of importance. One being water, as we mentioned. Okay. And if you see what's in tap water, and I'm not a conspiracy, you know, I don't, I don't, I happen to not think people are trying to poison us with water. You know, maybe haphazardly they're fucking us and that's possible, but whatever. It doesn't matter. But water, tap water, uh, one, it's very easy living in a Western country that has running water to say that our tap water is shitty. So I feel like a snob even saying that with a billion people. Yeah, yeah, or go to parts of India and I sound like a fucking asshole. So let's put that aside. Um, that we have running water, we have toilets, you know, like thank God. But if we're blessed enough to have an electronic device that can get this message and you live in this in the luxury of having these things, and you know, if you can buy a distiller on Amazon, water distiller, and what distilled water is, and I didn't really know, is basically water that is boiled, okay, and then cooled and turned back into water. And basically that water would be just empty and clean. H's and O's. H's and O's. But the human body needs a certain electrolyte complex to process water, or else if you drink just distilled water, unless you're really sick and trying to flush out toxins, you know, will reap your body and it can be bad for you. So if you take distill the water, you spend a hundred bucks, just distilled tap water, it's what I do. Buy a little bag of Celtic salt. And Celtic salt has a bunch of minerals in it. Great stuff, yeah. Put a pinch of Celtic salt, you know, and if you feel, you know, a little exuberant, squeeze a fresh lime, you know, into your water. And if you did that alone, just that one piece, you're putting your first you're saving a gazillion dollars on shit bottled water, you know, and you know, and you can drink and everything else, yeah. So that gets rid of all that stuff and gets you in a clean place. Drink a good amount of water and all the recommended things I've seen from the, you know, the some of the smartest people I know is your body weight in ounces divided by two.

SPEAKER_01 12:25

Okay.

Health As A Lifelong Investment

SPEAKER_00 12:26

So as a general rule, you weigh 100, 100 pounds, drink 50 ounces of water of this type of high quality water. Um, and then the second thing back to being, you know, and also economically, like I said, the base stuff to where, you know, if you're lucky enough to have a good job and you can save a hundred bucks, you know, and if you, you know, and instead of just going to whatever Chick-fil-A, and I like that stuff too. I'm not Mother Teresa. Um but the other thing is your skin is the largest organ in your body. So if you buy a shower head filter, there's one on Amazon again called Jolie, J-O-L-L-I-E. And oh, I don't sponsor any of this stuff. No one's paying me to say this shit. This is what you know, what I use and what I do. Another 120 bucks, maybe. You don't need a plumber, you just screw it on. And then the water that you just the tap water we're talking about cleans the water that's on your skin, has a cascade of events. So those two things alone, just starting, you're a couple hundred dollars of investment. And I say investment because you're gonna save a fortune on all the other, you know, uh bottled waters and trim, you know, like so it you will make your money back and be healthier. So that's that one piece. The next one um I think that is often overlooked is air filters, you know, and you can go and again, the air filters in an air-conditioned house, you know, you the expensive ones, and you'll look at the dimensions of the one you need, the hypoallergenic ones. Um, you know, and like I said, there's ones that are$2, and then there's ones that are like$60. And if you look at the air, and I've tested this stuff because I'm a nerd, invest in the expensive ones, buy two or three ones, you know, or buy an air filter for your house. There's a bunch of decent ones again, that one's called Lavoit, that's a good one, 60 bucks, 80 bucks. Clean the air that you breathe, you know, clean the water that you're drinking, and you're starting to get on the on the right path of like actionable stuff for small amounts of money. Um, you know, one, you know, one or two, you know, hard nights out of the bar, you know, not doing that, will buy, you know, these these kinds of things, you know, get a Costco membership. And, you know, you if you really want to make a great investment, you can get what's called an all cotton test, A-L-C-A-T. And it's the most comprehensive food sensitivity test. Okay. That basically it's really incredible. It's it's not cheap. I want to say it's about 500 bucks, five or six hundred dollars. Um, but if you get it, it'll tell you what's green that's great for your body, what red, yellow, you know, whatever, and you'd be shocked. Um, you'd be shocked. Someone, one of my really very, you know, close friends was allergic to lettuce. You know, I mean, like things that you don't even think. Um, and then from there, it's pretty simple to eat a lot of vegetables, whether it's all vegetables or not. I'll let someone else decide their school of thought. I eat, I eat some meat, you know, I eat organic chicken, I eat, you know, I eat fish. Um, I try not to eat much red meat because my cholesterol gets sensitive to each of their own. Um, but but if you eat, you know, uh a good amount of vegetables. I like to go to Costco. You know, you go to Costco, you know, from what I see, very ethical company. I buy a big bag of wild-caught salmon for like 14 bucks, you know, that'll make like 10 meals, meal prep. Buy a big bag of frozen vegetables if you don't have time organic, boil some sweet potatoes, you know, and mash them up and slice an avocado. And literally the price of that meal at scale is maybe a dollar, like literally, literally a dollar. And most of the time, 80% of the time, I eat very boring, or I'll buy a bunch of organic vegetables, you know, from the grocery store. Or if I feel, you know, like I have a little time, I'll go to one of the local farms in Austin and I'll just boil all the vegetables and some of that distilled water into a soup. And then I'll blend it. And throughout the day, like coffee, I'm just sipping on vegetable soup. And between those things, as cheap and inexpensive, you can revolutionize, you know, your health and how you feel.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

Agreed. I that those are some sound practices. And, you know, we could go deep into any element, you know, you're covering a lot of ground here, which I like.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

And I meant to, because you know, people are investing their time to listen to this. And that's what I do. And that's, you know, that's what I do. I run a very big company, I'm a very busy guy, you know, but meal prepping like that, and yes, there are other fancy stuff I do, green powders, I take a gazillion vitamins, but I have found that those staple things that if you don't get those things right, you know, at the beginning, all the vitamins and all the biohacking is noise. Right. Without the fundamental principles, in my opinion. Like I'm not a doctor, I'm not, but I I live this shit um, you know, myself, and I've seen the notable difference in how I feel, what my output is, and you know, what my days are like.

SPEAKER_01 18:19

Well, it's like your your body's a machine, uh a biological machine, and it's like having a car, you know, you change the oil, keep the spark plugs, yeah, it'll run. You can beef it up and and add all kinds of little things.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Great analogy. I love that analogy.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

Yeah, yeah. Put some good gas in it.

Practical Home Upgrades: Water And Air

SPEAKER_00 18:38

And I'll tell you another one since you said that, something that's not spoken about enough. And I talk about this in my book um as well, which is on Amazon, The Gift of Failure. Um, posture management. What does that mean? Back to your point of the machine. There, there's a there's a book called Pain Free, written by a man named Pete Agoscu. Agoscu is E-G-O-S-C-U-E. You can look it up on YouTube and watch some of the videos. But basically, Pete Agoscu is this incredible kinesiologist, incredible doctor, incredible man that basically came up with a series of movements that you can do where, you know, there's different conditions, whether if you're slouched over, your shoulders are like this, or one of your hips is off and just basic living your life, our body posture positioning is fucked up. I mean, that's just you know, from living and it's okay. You have to live too. But if you can get a practitioner yourself, they'll take pictures of you front, back, side to side, and just like a car say this shoulder is like this, this hip is like this, and create custom movements that take 10 to 15 minutes at home to realign the physical body and put everything in the right spot in your organs. This epidemic of, you know, of colon disease, obviously bad eating, but it's also when you sit down and your pelvis tucks under and you're smushing the hose, it doesn't work. Or if you think about more these days, and all these heart attacks, these shoulders and ever be everyone being over, you know, on their phones, I'm not saying that's everything, but if you smush, you know, a malleable little muscle and smush the little ventricles, it's not going to work as well. So I spend a lot of time working on these movements to make sure I have balance and symmetry in my physical machinery, and then start to put good stuff in. Cause I think of it like, okay, if the if the your intestines are a hose and you know, everyone who's watered the lawn or something, if the hose gets a little crimped, the water shuts off, right? And you need water to, you know, to come out or you need fluid stuff to come out. So you eat all the organic, whatever vitamins in the world, and you're sitting on that hose, it's not gonna work that good. Right, right. And so getting the physical positioning of your pelvis, your abdomen, your lungs with that posture alignment training for me has been a complete game changer in so many different things.

SPEAKER_01 21:01

Nice, nice. Well, you know, we're blasting through time. I want to get to some of the some of the little next level stuff that you're doing. You know, the your your your foundation is powerful. I I'm right there with you. Um, we talk about this a lot on the show of you know, food and and and and diet and exercise and sleep and and stress reduction and all of that. And I want to get into some of the the next level stuff. You know, you talk about vitamins and supplements and hyperbaric chambers, bro. Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

I love it. For me, hyperbaric chambers, you know, again, it's expensive. Um, and I'll tell you, if you are going to do hyperbaric chambers in all of my research, all of my reading with some of the greatest minds in the world, my own practices, the hard chambers are the only ones. The soft ones, I I see people say have some benefits, but the real clinical studies done in Russia, the ones that, you know, the oxygen revolution, incredible book, um, Dr. Eamon, his research, the hard chambers of the whole thing. So if you're not gonna do a hard chamber, don't even waste your time or money, in my opinion. Um, and the other thing is you need to do a minimum of 40 sessions in very close proximity or it does nothing.

SPEAKER_01 22:17

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

So, so again, if each session is 200 bucks, right? You know, you got to be prepared to make and you have to do one to two sessions per day five days a week. So, meaning close proximity because it pops the oxygen concentration in your body. And if you don't do the next one, the oxygen levels don't stay at those high requisite levels, so that this massive healing, angiogenesis, you know, cerebral spinal fluid, all these things need to happen. So you have to keep this oxygen concentration at a high level. And really, the permanent changes, according to all the studies, is 80 sessions. So, meaning to make Commitment, which is absolutely I did a hundred uh 200 sessions last year, I think. Wow. Um, 200 or so sessions, maybe more. Um, how long is it? 60 to 90 minutes. Okay. So you can make it. And it takes yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 60 to 90 minutes, and um, between two to three atmospheres, which is basically a function. It's based on how deep you are in the water. Um, and I go to a place called Texas Hyperbarracks in Dallas. Um, my friend Eric Cortez runs it. Great guy, incredible guy. It's in Snyder Plaza in University Park, Highland Park, if anybody's in Dallas. And you know, I'm in Austin now. There's another great place called ATX Hyperbarracks, but it's a big commitment. It's expensive, but if you do it and you have the resources, you're talking about improving every single thing of your body new cartilage, organ function, uh, gut, brain, eye. I mean, like it is repairing your entire physical ecosystem. I've done spec brain scans before and after, and it is absolutely insane what it does.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

Um, if you have uh cancer or other diseases, it attacks wipes it out. Wipes them out. They can't live in an oxygen-rich environment.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

So I'm glad you said that. So cancer, um, cancer, the two things that cancer feeds, cancer leads to cancer, or counteracts, I say the number one is sugar. Cancer eats sugar. So if you have any type of cancer, worried about cancer, and sugar is bread, sugar is in uh most fruits, you know, and so of course the other, you know, sugars that we know, high-processed white sugar is garbage, but starving the body of sugar of that type of sugar in fruits count. Um, you know, because you saw Steve Jobs, he ate an all-fruit diet when he was suffering and it destroyed him, you know, he thought it was just the fruit, but if it would have been all vegetables, chances are they would have lived. And then the other thing is, you know, in low oxygen. And so if you hyper-oxygenate the body and you starve it of sugar, um, you basically cut off the food supply and ruin the house of where cancer and autoimmune and a slew of other things do. So if you can do hyperbaric and you have any health issue, um, it is an absolute miracle. But like I said, the people that say it doesn't work or has it work, it didn't work as well, didn't get to the 80. They didn't do enough or they didn't. I did 80 sessions in two years. I'm like, no, you need to do 80 sessions in two months. Got it.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

You know, and that's important. I I have not heard that.

Eating On A Budget With Intention

SPEAKER_00 25:41

That is the most important thing, Joe. Joe, that is the single most important nuance. It is the only nuance. That is the difference. And again, you'll read 40 sessions, but all the results, and beyond 80, even better. But but but 80 sessions is where there is the most clinical data over 50 years in multiple countries that say there is permanent changes in vascular growth, permanent changes in brain health, neurology, neuroplasticity. Um, and so, and you have to do it, like I said, um, you know, five days a week, let's say at least one a day, five days a week. So do the math and missing one or two days fucks the whole thing up. So it's a real commitment in terms of your diligence, your money, and your time. But if you do, you're revolutionizing your health.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

Well, you got me inspired, that's for sure. Um, I I get we got a little bit of time left. I'd like to get into like a regimen that you're doing a vitamin supplements and whatnot. Sure. There's a lot of that. And I'd really love to have you back on another time to go a little deeper into some of this.

SPEAKER_00 26:54

Yeah, maybe maybe we can. Maybe, maybe we can. Um, look, it it's hard to completely go down the rabbit hole. I take close to 200 supplements a day, and I know that sounds insane. Um, and it is, but it took me close to a decade to get to that. And like I said, a lot of them are add-ons, a lot of them are other things, but the core 80, 90% of the benefit, you know, there is some very key things that are absolutely mission critical for the body. One is vitamin D, you know, one is DHEA, which is a hormone. Vitamin D is also a hormone as well. Um, and having a great multivitamin, you know, you can go, I mean, there's, you know, on pure encapsulations has a great one. Uh, life extension brand has a great one. Um, but taking a very high quality multivitamin with additional vitamin D and DHEA as well. Um, and then I would mix in a fish oil, um, take three or four fish oils, good for the heart, good for the body. And the other one that I see people miss a lot is a prebiotic and a probiotic. And to kind of break that out is a probiotic people have heard of. You can buy a high quality one. It's for the gut, flora, and fauna, for the bacteria in your gut, heel, whatever. The problem is so many people's gut are so malfunctioning that if they start to take probiotics, it is helping. But because the gut is so screwed up, the probiotic dies in the gut and doesn't propagate. So when you take a prebiotic, it's effectively a form of fiber. That is the food of the probiotic. So by taking three or four prebiotics with the probiotic, it has a chance to propagate throughout the entire intestinal path and start to do some real work to heal your gut. So a prebiotic is one that's not talked about enough, which is mission critical, a probiotic, vitamin D, DHEA, a multivitamin, maybe some fish oil, but those core components every single day of your entire life is going to do nothing but help you.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

I love it. Well, all right, I um this is a point where I like to see if you've got you got so much to say. I I I wish I could spend a couple of hours with you, but but if you could wrap everything that you're that you've done and that you're doing into a single message for our listeners, what do you think that would look like?

SPEAKER_00 29:23

I I think that the message is what I said a little bit earlier is you know, your body is an investment. It is an investment. We think so much about our job, we spend so much time to give work or career, making a paycheck. And without your physical home for your soul, your body to live, you don't have shit. And so, and so thinking about these things not as an expense, but as an investment, in if you can make that one mind shift change when you're eating that healthy meal, you're taking those vitamins, you're buying those vitamins, you're making the way to the gym, think of it as making a deposit in the your longevity, in your lifestyle, into this investment that is your body that houses everything. Because without you, you don't have shit. Like you literally don't. You are your most important asset. I think if you can make that identity shift and think about some of the things we talked about, this, I think you'd be in a much better position.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

I love it. That that's some good wisdom there. Um, we didn't really get into your book and your business and all these other things.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

Well, the book has a lot of this stuff. The book has, if you read the book, a lot of these things, it's it's called the gift of failure. It's about a lot of failures I had in business and life and health, but I talk about the posture, talk about the vitamins, talk about um some of these things as well. So if you do read the book or listen to it on Spotify, you're gonna get a lot of this information.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

Fantastic. Is there uh any other contact information you'd like to leave us with?

SPEAKER_00 30:47

Sure. You can go to Rastagarcapital.com to learn about our investment business if you'd like. You can follow us on Instagram at Rastagar. Um, a simple Google search of my name would tell you a lot of this stuff. You'll be able to find us. But um the bulk for this thing is in the book. Um, and there's, you know, it's been covered in all the major publications in the world. New York Post, Wall Street Journal has talked a lot about this stuff. But most importantly, um, you know, if you listen to this and re-listen to it, hopefully you can take away some key tools, key things you can put into your own life. And uh, my only wish for you is that you utilize them. You know, not necessarily follow me or call me, but if you utilize them and you go contribute and give more to the world, that's all the thing I'd ever need.

SPEAKER_01 31:29

I love it. Well, all right, this has been a fantastic conversation. I've really enjoyed myself and want to thank you for joining the show today.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

Thank you, brother. Talk to you soon.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

All right. This has been another episode of the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, and I'd like to thank all of our listeners for making this show possible. And we will see you next time.