From Rocket Science To Regenerative Skin Care With Food Grade Botanicals

A broken bottle of luxury skin care that eats through carpet. A beloved horse with a frisbee-sized wound that’s “supposed” to end in euthanasia. Two founders who refuse to accept that harsh chemicals and empty promises are just the price of looking good. That’s where our conversation with Natalie Novak and Ron Webb begins, and it quickly turns into a deep dive on regenerative skincare, topical nutrient signaling, and why your skin deserves the same respect you give the rest of your body. 

Natalie shares the moment she started questioning cosmetic ingredients, regulation, and hormone-mimicking chemicals, then how her path through aesthetics, massage therapy, and farm-made formulations shaped her standards for non-toxic, organic, food grade body care. Ron brings a rare lens from aerospace engineering and plant drug research, explaining how improving bioavailability and identifying what’s actually inside botanical extracts can change outcomes, not just marketing language. We also dig into hydration storage, glycosaminoglycans like hyaluronic acid, and why “plumping” is not the same as real skin support. 

We go beyond the face into fascia, cellulite, lymphatic drainage, scarring, eczema, and chronic discomfort patterns that may be tied to restricted tissue. You’ll hear why KPS Essentials is showing up in med spas and functional medicine offices, how practitioner education is shaping their next steps, and the closing message we can’t stop thinking about: your thoughts can make you sick or help you heal. 

If you value clean beauty that actually performs, wildcrafted botanical skincare, and science-forward skin health, listen now, then subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find the conversation.

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SPEAKER_02 0:12

Well, hello, and welcome to the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, and we've got a couple of special guests today. We have Natalie Novak and Ron

Welcome And Meet KPS Essentials

SPEAKER_02 0:23

Webb. And these are the founder and co-founder of KPS Essentials. They have a regenerative skin care and body care company built around topical nutrient signaling, and they use organic food grade wild gathered botanicals. And if anybody knows me, they know I'm well into this sort of topic as well. I'm really interested in hearing all about it. Welcome, you guys.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Thanks for having us, Joe.

SPEAKER_02 0:50

I'm looking forward to this. So I always like to start a show off with a new uh guest or guests, as the case is, and and hear about your story. How did you get here? What you know, what brought you to the things that you do?

SPEAKER_00 1:05

You want to go first? Let me go first.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

Um I I can start off if you'd like.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

So I get my whole family's basically a bunch of scientists

Ron’s Rocket Scientist Origin Story

SPEAKER_01 1:16

and engineers. Yes. So that's it's been fun. Like my my friends would come over when for dinner, and and afterwards they were like, This is what you guys talk about.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Yeah, let's go over to the lab and play, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:32

Yeah. So you know, I've I was an engineer for for Boeing for almost 30 years. I I not too far from where you are, basically in Huntington Beach, uh Seal Beach area. You know where the Seal Beach Naval Weapons Center is over there, it's real close. But the I spent 27 years in development, so I ever when we got out of development, I moved on to another development program, but most of my experience was in rockets and spacecraft.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

All right. So it's got a lot to do with your skin, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:07

Yes, I took a real security route to get here. My mother was a physiologist. And what happened? She she did all sorts of stuff like mapping of the genome, plant drug research, and and she worked as a director of development for big pharma for a little bit. She ended up leaving there and going into nutraceuticals, and she became semi-retired. She was still consulting in the industry, and she started an Arabian horse farm in Payson, Utah.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

Whoa, once again, a complete opposite of a spectrum. All right.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Even weirder thing is she started off as an opera singer, then she became uh she got a master's of fine arts and was a designer and artist and painter, and then she got her physiology degree and zoology degree.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

Sounds like she could just do whatever she decided to. That's a pretty talented lady.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

So what got me into skincare was she called me up one day, and one of her horses had about a frisbee-sized piece of skin ripped off the right shoulder.

SPEAKER_02 3:15

Ouch.

SPEAKER_01 3:16

And gotten in gotten

Healing A Horse Wound With Plants

SPEAKER_01 3:17

into an accident, and she called me up crying, said saying that the vet had told her that that animal had to be put down. Oh yeah, it was pretty devastating for her. And she said she asked if I would collaborate with her on getting that skin to come back. I said, absolutely. So, you know, I'd my background, she pulled me into plant drug research a long time ago. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

And I did a little bit of like they they pulled me into the they wanted my engineering perspective after my mom talked to me a lot about this mapping of the genome. But okay. But anyways, working on that horse, we got this. It I asked her to give me all the nutrients the horse needed to heal, and I'll I'll play around with the particle size to basically you're breaking down you're breaking down molecules and getting them away from you know, crystallizing and those types of things, and getting them small enough to to get into the body and be bioavailable. So all of a sudden, the efficacy went through the roof when I was getting my my goal was to get close to a little bit under a nanometer, which is pretty small, and which is about the size of a glucose molecule. Right. And uh I actually was able to run the scanning electron beam microscope sample, and we were really close to it.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

And it's good to have that technology available.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

It was so thank you for powers it be. I had I had some I had some lots of good labs around me. All right. Um the my mother said the skin grew back, the hair grew back. I asked my mom if if she would send me pictures, and she did, and it looked like the before picture before this accident ever happened. And I said, please shave the skin down or shave the hair off. I want to see the skin. And I could barely see uh wow. I mean, it you I was like, I had to really zoom in to see any kind of damage. Wow. And it was like, wow. So we got into equine and bovine skin care, so animal wound care for about 30 years before we took it into skincare for for our bipeds like ourselves.

unknown 5:43

There we go.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

We I we did a lot of research to find out why we why we were get able to do what we did. Basically, a lot of nutrients and

Nutrient Signaling And Skin Volume

SPEAKER_01 5:53

nutrient signaling. So some of the nutrients are just for skin health and then or body health, and and the and then the nutrient signaling was really interesting. Okay. So then I took on that technology. We're we're adding a lot of nutrients for the skin in our skincare, plus there's some signaling things that we can play around with, like to bring volume back in the skin. Uh-huh. That's we you've got a medicine chemical stem cell in your skin that'll that'll differentiate into adipose, right? Right. And as we get older, our thins gets our our skin gets thinner. Right. The reason why is because we're supposed to stay agile, right? If something's chasing you, it doesn't matter what you look like, right? You're gonna be so with with nutrients, you can turn that back on so it'll differentiate to the adipose and it brings back volume. We also I played around with peptides for a long time until I realized the more we were processing them, the better off they were working. And and I went what would happen if we used aminos? And that really works incredibly well. The other interesting thing is we can just about triple anybody's uh hydration storage, which is really interesting. We shouldn't be able to do that. And what's happened is it's it's basically, I believe it's hyaluronic acid that's in skin care that is creating a false environment, and so we have nutrients to be able to signal glycosaminoglycans, which are hyaluronic acid and and chondroitin sulfate in the skin. So that is why we're be able to have that much storage, but nice, but yeah, it's kind of my path to get there. Love it, and I've had a lot of fun doing it, and I I I know you're in skincare too, so uh yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 7:52

No, I I I'm I'm tracking with you. I love I love the the route you've gone and and the understanding of it. A lot of times, you know, people stumble into something and then they think they understand the mechanisms of it, and they just go doing things and they don't necessarily realize sometimes you go backwards and you don't know why. And it sounds like you're following right along with not only the the the tools, but understanding on a from a cellular and molecular level why they're working.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

Yeah, well, what one of the reasons like my mom was when she went back to school, we were both dyslexic, she was way worse than me. And when she went into her physiology degree, she I could hear her downstairs reading out loud, trying to pronounce these words, and I'm like, I'm gonna go read all of her books. I let her books to her, so I basically walked through her degree with her, and uh so which was beneficial, plus the engineering rigor that of you know you you basically you have to understand what's going on before you fly.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

Um, there's something about the engineer mind that you're a problem solver, and so you can apply that, you know, the things that you talk about, strangely enough, or maybe not. I I see through various guests, I've had some pretty brilliant people show up on the show, and dyslexia is not uncommon amongst brilliant people. I don't know why it is, but I know a lot of just friggin' amazing people, and you know, they struggle to read for whatever you know. That disconnect though somehow causes an understanding connect that is different. So I don't know. Good stuff.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

Yeah, I drag this around and I will till I'm dead, but the I wouldn't trade my my strengths for the weaknesses, so I hear you.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

I hear you, I love it. And how about you, Natalie?

SPEAKER_00 10:41

Well, I am a completely different okay. Yeah, I'm also from Southern California and I worked at Nordstrom at South Coast Plaza, and remember that North Ridge earthquake in '87, but I was getting ready for work one morning and that

Natalie’s Wake Up Call On Ingredients

SPEAKER_00 10:59

earthquake happened. And so I went about an hour later, I went into work and I went up to the stock room to grab the products because I was selling high-end skincare.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

So when I went up to grab the products, I noticed one of them fell off the top shelf and I went looked down and it broke. And I realized that as I was cleaning it up, not only did it break, but it ate through the carpet as well as the carpet padding and exposing a hole of cement literally that big. And I thought, how is this legal? What is this doing to my body? How is it? You know, I realized that the FDDA had not regulated the Cosmetics Act since 1938. And so it made me start thinking, like, what's really happening in the industry? So I got this book called The Inco the Cosmetic Ingredient Bible, and I started reading it.

SPEAKER_03 11:52

I have that.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

You do. Yeah, I know here, and I still look at that. It's so fascinating to me, these products that they use in traditional skincare, and it makes no sense to me. And so ironically, two months later, my grandmother got breast cancer, and her physician at the time, who was well beyond his time, he said, you know, it could have been caused by all the hormone mimicking chemicals in your cosmetic. So that was red flag number two.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

All right.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

I had to become an aesthetician because I needed to learn more about the skin, and then I need to learn more about the body, so I became a massage therapist. I did essential oils and aromatherapy and understanding the connection there. And then fast forwarding several years later, here I am. I've now been married and moved to Michigan, and I've got two young kids living on this farm. I've got raising alpacas, I've got 75 chickens. I mean, oh, that's so cool. It was fun. I was living the Martha Stewart lifestyle.

SPEAKER_03 12:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

And I thought, wait a second, Kiki, you just went out and collected the eggs. Now you've collected your vegetables for the day, and you're gonna paint your nails with this crap. No, so I started researching, you know, looking at Whole Foods and Amazon and trying to find something that was safe for her, but I couldn't find anything. This was back in 2007, and so she wanted to have birthday parties that were spa themed, and I just started creating things in my farm kitchen that I had grown utilizing in some of creating, you know, body lotions and lip shimmers and different things like that. So I ended up creating a brand, launching it in Whole Foods. It was called Kiki Pure and Simple, named after her.

unknown 13:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

And then I realized as I was pushing 50, I needed a product that was food grade, organic, but it had the same kind of efficacy that you get from a plastic surgeon's office. And so I went on this quest to talk to different chemists to ask them to help me with this project, and they laughed at me. They all said, listen, baby, go find a new hobby because you can't do this the way you want to do it. And there was a burning desire in my soul that told me to keep going.

SPEAKER_02 14:02

True can, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

And thankfully, I met Ron in 2012 and he rocked my world. He was like the yes man, he was I love it, I could do everything I wanted. And I thought, is this for real? It's too good.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

He didn't believe a thing I said at first. I just tell you that.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

All right, I I you and I have a lot in common about on that level, about all the confusion stuff, but I definitely know you can do it.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

Yeah, and so he with his background with his mom, I mean, he could do everything I wanted him to, and it was amazing because I had this vision, you know, wanting to have a skincare line that had professional products, but it also needed to have a retail side, but it also needed to be able to help people and had to have pure ingredients that were actually doing something for the body, adding to the body, not taking away from the body, like so many products do, as you know.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

So true, yeah. Well, I mean, there's a there's there's two things well, there's more than two things, but there's there's a lot of things. But well, number one, people often don't realize how important the skin is, not just you know, apparent appearance-wise, but it's it's it's an organ and it it passes

Skin As An Organ And Toxic Load

SPEAKER_02 15:16

things through and keeps things out at the same time. And so when you're putting things on, there's things that you want sometimes to help you keep things out, and sometimes you want to get things in. And those are completely different mechanisms. And then, you know, I think a lot of the tools that they have out today give the appearance of a thing happening, but they don't necessarily help. And so you can make something swell up, but does that make it better? Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. And so they've got, you know, ingredients that cause things to plump, but it's not necessarily helping you for real. And so I I like that you guys are looking at a holistic approach and and an actually healthy approach to it. So sorry, I didn't mean to no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

You're not you're we're like everything we made to save that horse was made out of food and wild-gathered ingredients, okay? Like what do we use for nutrients, right? I mean, we don't we don't go down to the local, you know, chemist chemist and say, give us something that that I can sustain myself with, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:30

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

So, you know, and then you know, I've being that engineer guy in that aerospace engineer guy, you know, and I've got three tech companies, and we've got technology and all sorts of different things, but a lot of RF waveforms, and I'm using RF waveforms to to break up ingredients, and I'm using sound and I'm using thermal and all sorts of stuff to long process to make things work. And you know, I I couldn't find all the ingredients that you would need in a I kind of see like food was one of my ores, right? Like that's where I'm gonna go mine ingredients, and I couldn't find some of the ingredients I wanted in this depleted world that we live in. Yeah, I didn't see that food shape, and so I had to go with wild-gathered ingredients uh to go dig there. And and that's kind of what solved a lot of.

SPEAKER_02 17:27

You're both in Michigan then, right?

SPEAKER_01 17:28

We're both in Michigan, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

And in Michigan, for people who don't know, there's still some forest, and there's still some it rains out there, and there's plants that actually grow. You go to Michigan, it's green, yeah. So definitely it's a place where you could do that. Southern California, not so easy to wild gather things the way you might want to, so it's good.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

I back we were just there not too long ago, but yeah, it's like it's like if there's free land there, they're either looking to asphalt it or concrete it. So it's kind of interesting to see.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

You know, on a on a uh quickly side road, we've developed we have a two and a half acre botanical garden here, and so I've created a place where things live, and so we we grow a lot of our ingredients because I've created a you know, I put up 30 years ago a canopy of trees so that things can grow here, and so anyway, that's a quick side note, but definitely love hearing those of other founders of you know, the thought that the dream that they had and what they've created.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

And after 30 years, where are you now? I mean, that's really fascinating.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, there's been a lot of twists and turns, but definitely, you know, we got a nonprofit that we actually do uh what we call therapeutic horticulture. We have people come out here and heal themselves by just being in the garden.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

Yeah, I love that so much.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

I'm sure they do.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

I love to have you come out sometime. Anytime you're in Southern California, we'll give you a little next time we'll come back.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

We'll have that. Yeah, that'd be amazing.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

Yeah, for sure. Well, tell me about you know, you've got these what what caused you? So you're figuring out that you got a wildcraft ingredients and you're starting to collect these ingredients and process them and and and beginning to make these products. How did how did you go from there, like I mean, to you know a functioning line of products?

SPEAKER_01 19:34

Well, that took a while, and before we did, I wanted to understand exactly what I was doing to the skin because sometimes you could stumble into something and you and you find a result, and then you find out you might may not be able to replicate it or those types of things. So basically, my mother, the physiologist,

Turning Wild Botanicals Into Products

SPEAKER_01 19:52

slash zoologist, slash artist, slash author.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

You do help when you solve problems.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Yeah, we we sat down and really broke down the ingredients and and the physiology of the of the skin, and and it's it's kind of interesting. It took a long time. It there was probably a good 15 years before we said, okay, let's let's productize this and and I'm ready to go.

SPEAKER_03 20:16

Right.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

But we literally like we've we took every one of our ingredients and ran it through mass spec machine and tried to find out what what what we're actually dealing with. And we started doing our own extractions to see one of these. I mean, it turns out there's multiple, multiple things in pretty much every plant that your skin can use. So when I, you know, there's a lot of folks out there in skincare land that are like, hey, you know, you can go into you know cosmetic ingredient websites, and they'll they'll be like, you know, here's a I'll just throw out like pumpkin extract or something. Sure. You don't know what it is, right? Right. So we identified everything we were doing, and then we and then we're like, okay, well, let's see what happens when you concentrate it. And right, that's the efficacy really goes up. We could show you before and afters, it would just blow your mind. But sorry, got a dog or something.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Yeah, my yellow lab sitting here being real quiet until the other dog comes in.

unknown 21:29

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Oh, he's been really good. We got one over here, too.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

So she's usually good, but she gets a little jealous when when the other dog comes to try to take her her love.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

But yeah, that was kind of the process, and and you know, and then one day Natalie asked me if I could do something about cellulite. And I'm like, you know, I have no idea. So it took me to dig through the the root cause of cellulite, the you know, and what it really is, its fashion, a bunch of proteins. And I figured out a way to

Cellulite, Fascia, And Lymph Drainage

SPEAKER_01 22:08

go after the proteins, and which was kind of interesting. There's a there's a protein in that protein mix called fibronectin that you can, which I didn't know what I would somebody was gonna call it. I mean, as some human beings like to name everything, right?

SPEAKER_03 22:26

Right.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

So fibronectin is something that I could get the body to relax. And once you basically all the fibers on a protein is kind of like the fibers in a rope or a yarn or string. Uh-huh. Fibronectin holds them together like a cable. And and when I take that uh fibronectin and relax it, I can get it to slide. Once I get it to slide, it's kind of like having a balloon with a string on either side. You can, you know, you blow up the balloon, you're gonna have a dent on either side, which to me that's kind of the cellulite thing. Right. So I was able to relax that, and then it turns out after. After a bunch of study, there we're finding out that we can help with lymphatic drainage and a whole bunch of things. So if you if you think about just body health, your body is constantly detoxifying, right? Your cells are detoxifying. When your cells work, they detoxify. And they go into this interstitial world between cells and the lymphatic system and your cardiovascular system. And there's all this fascia in there. And if that fascia is clogging up that area, when we when we open up that fascia, now it's draining in addition to the detoxifying. Because it's it's you could detoxify a cell and toxify your body at the same time, it turns out.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Right. Yeah, combination of all that dead foods we're eating and and lack of move lack of moving around and and then all the stuff that we're being subjected to and breathing and drinking, and it's all a mess.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

Oh, yeah. And then you know, I don't I don't think it's gonna get any better either.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

Not in our lifetime, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

No, it's we've gone too far one way to bring it back.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

And it's you know, it's like, hey, roundup's not working enough. Let's throw DDTs.

SPEAKER_02 24:37

Jeez, right? Uh don't don't even get me started there. Well, I I I normally we we slow the conversation down, but I want to go a little deeper because I think we've got a lot more to talk about. If you're cool, we can go a little longer.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

Anywhere you want to go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

Okay, good. Yeah, no, I'd like to hear probably we're gonna have to come back and revisit some of this because you guys are really into some stuff that I really would like to explore a lot more. But I'd like to hear about the uh as the company came out and the the products and how they're helping people. You know, we were talking earlier when you first came on about you know your reason for for doing this, and obviously we got a horse involved, and that was you know a long time ago. Tell me a little bit about, without necessarily going deep into it, about you know, the the types of products that you brought out and and and who they've helped and how they've helped them.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

Oh boy, okay. So, you know, first of all, the reason we're called kindness power skincare is because this company and all three of my tech companies are were created to give. Okay. I mean, I was in my in the garage of my old boss at

Real World Results With Chronic Skin Issues

SPEAKER_01 25:56

Boeing, and and we were filling up his garage with food, and and I'm like, hey, we should stop doing this. And we ended up productizing stuff, but so we're we're there to give, but the stuff that we're that we're doing right now, if you think about you know, lack of nutrients, dehydration, and a whole bunch of other things that our bodies are going through, things like eczema, psoriasis, melia, hyperpigmentation, hyperpigmentation.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

Sorry, you name it.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

Yeah, uh, it's weird you you so breaking up. I can get rid of a scar that's a scar that's over a year old, we can get rid of it typically in around a month. Nice. And the other cool thing is you use this body sculptor stuff, you can get you can loosen the fascia underneath that. And a lot of times there's there's adheres it adhesions underneath that in fascia underneath that scar, right? So we're helping a lot of people with scarring. There are some chronic conditions that are really interesting, like a fibromyalgia, which is fascia that's restricted, and and that can cause, you know, it's a chronic thing that can cause pain 24-7365.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

One application of that is typically relief within a half an hour and it lasts. And then you can do this daily and you can get out of that issue, which is really interesting. We've had people with like one of our first trials of eczema. There was a woman with a 42-year problem with eczema, and she was terrified to come in here because everything she's ever put on her skin was burned. Right. And she ended up coming in eventually. And long story short, on that, basically, we got rid of that eczema in under an hour.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

Whoa, whoa.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

She emailed us the next day just like you know, my skin is it's no longer tight, it's it's hydrated, it's it's you know, all these different things, all these symptoms went away. And she came in the next day and told us she quit her job and she's gonna come to work for us because she was in sales to sell like high-end shears for people that cut hair, right?

SPEAKER_02 28:19

Wow, yeah, eczema is a tough one, and most of the prescriptions out there they talk about you know a month, six weeks or longer before their product even starts to work. And I put air quotes on that.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Yeah, we can like show the picture of the hand. There was a there was a gentleman that was in advertising, and he I went to shake his hand, and he says, careful. And so he had these bandages on his hand, and he tried it. He's I just barely shook his hand, very, very nice and oh yeah, real careful with that one, yeah. And Natalie starts putting our body sculptor on his hand at uh renew face cream. I'm sorry, the renewed face cream, yeah, and and so at breakfast he's doing this, and he says, I haven't been able to do this in seven years. And then afterwards, he he went to shake my hand and he just gorilla gripped my hand. He says, I haven't been able to do that in seven years.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Wow, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

That was only seven days to do go from there to there on on just one product to renew face cream.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

Yeah, yeah, that's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Yeah, we've there was a woman that had her, she had a prosthetic nose because of cancer, and then she had a cadaver nose, and we got rid of all of her her scars and her wounds from that from that cancer. And and that's crazy. How long is that one? Do you know?

SPEAKER_00 29:54

Yeah, this took about four months for the starting.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

That's unbelievable that that that you could even do that. You could barely see anything when you're done.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

And it's maybe when we're off this thing, I'll tell you another story about how we helped her with some other stuff because someone's gonna shoot me in the back of the head if I tell you. But she's she was really prone to cancer, and and we helped her in some other ways. But the um but yeah, we're I I really want to be this like Robin Hood company where where we can sell to people who can afford it so we can afford to help people that can't. I love that and and because it it shouldn't be a class differentiator, what you're scanning.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

I mean that's fantastic. So tell me about the company as it is today. How many products do you guys have out?

SPEAKER_00 30:51

We probably have 37 products. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:54

And where where do people find them?

SPEAKER_00 30:56

They find them mainly at functional med doctors, high-end, you know, hotels and high-end spas, med spas.

Where The Brand Goes Next Medically

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Yeah, kpsessentials.com. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

Like in your neck of the woods, the the the Marriott and Dana Point with that red red roof and stuff. Yeah, yeah. I know.

SPEAKER_03 31:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

If you go down the 405 and you're in that area at all your I'm guessing your Ortega Highway-ish, if you Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

I'm the other side of the Ortega, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

Okay. Yeah, that they've got our products there. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

Nice. So yeah, it's where do you see the company going? Uh you know, I mean, obviously, you guys have gotten yourself established, you're in some, you know, premium spots. Where where do you see this headed? Where what what's your what's your next step?

SPEAKER_01 31:55

Well, it seems like the future of us is you know, Natalie kept telling me forever, you know, you're talking over everybody's head and and no one understands anything you're saying. And and I hear and I I literally I I didn't realize that.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

And you speak a very specific language, yeah. Not not everybody chats along.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

We I we happened to be at this weird like functional forum thing that a bunch of doctors were at, and I was not expecting anything from it, I was just learning. And the woman running it said, Would everybody stand up and talk about what you do? And and that to me, which I I was the last person I didn't think they were gonna even ask me. Yeah, and I said, Well, I I basically developed rockets and spacecraft for 30 years, and and now I'm doing transgermal nutrients, yeah. And and they're like, What? They said, So I'm like, Oh, somebody understood what I said, yeah. Somebody cut that. They said, Will you speak at one of these things? And I said, and I go, Okay, so we had a functional, they had another functional forum, and I was the first speaker, and there was a doctor after me that spoke. And and after I after I spoke, he got up there and he said, He looks at the room with a bunch of doctors, and he said, Would it be okay with the this group if if I don't talk and we hear more from Ron?

SPEAKER_02 33:25

Whoa, nice.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

I was shocked. I had no expectation of that whatsoever. And basically, of the 10 or so people that were there, did any of them not use our stuff now?

SPEAKER_00 33:40

The only one out of that group.

SPEAKER_01 33:42

So, yeah, so basically, when I, you know, we'd go to these skincare trade shows, and I I could talk to 10 people, and I might luck if I'm lucky get one.

SPEAKER_02 33:51

Oh, yeah. Well, that's just the nature of the beast, anyway. So I think I think there were 10 or how many were there?

SPEAKER_01 33:57

About it was about 10, let's say, but 10 to 12. But it, but you know, we did the only one that there's only one person that didn't use our stuff. And now they're like one of the doctors, she she calls up and she says, She's she knew about the body sculptor, and that's the one that can break up fascia. And she says, Will it work with neuropathy? And I said, if it's fascia restriction, it will. And then she says, Hey, I've got somebody with basically nerve damage and they've got ulcers. They said you're in skin care. Or I'm sorry, she's like, You did wound care. Yeah, and you do wound care. And I said, Yeah, give me a couple of days and I'll make you some.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Yeah, yeah, that's where you started.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

And so I made wound care for her, and she she within a week, those ulcers were gone. Wow. So I guess my point is we're going medical. I love it. And they're there, I'm sure there's gonna be aestheticians out there that you know, we still get spas and and estheticians that are interested in doing it, and a lot of these doctors will be doing treatments inside of their which like there's a guy local here that's he's an orthopedic surgeon. Okay. And he I was the last guy I thought. In fact, he was at that first functional forum, and he kind of gave me a weird look like, what are you talking about? You know, and he wrote a letter to a doctor out in in this guy that they were both at each other's weddings, and they think they graduated together. And and he wrote a letter to him saying, This you should see these products. They they changed my it changed my practice. Wow. And um yeah, so it's um I it was just a stroke of luck that we ended up getting invited to this to go learn what doctors were doing. I had no idea that that was this was gonna happen. And that's kind of where we're going at this point. And at some point, we'd like to have probably like KPS spas and those types of things so we can open the door to others and and really help people and you know treat people right. Like we would have a very nice spa, as at least in my my vision, we'd have a very beautiful spa that we just open up to everybody.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

I love it, I love it. Well, if you had one message to leave our guests with today, I we've covered so many things, but underneath it all, what what would you say would be your your one thought you'd like to leave everybody here with?

SPEAKER_00 36:44

I would say don't forget that your skin

Final Messages Thoughts And Skin Respect

SPEAKER_00 36:47

is your largest organ and treat it with respect because there are so many products out there that contain toxic chemicals that can harm you and not do good to your largest organ.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

That's pretty cool. Can I add can I add put mine in there?

SPEAKER_02 37:03

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. One at one each.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

This is a total curveball. Watch your thoughts. Your thoughts have more effect on your body than you know. In fact, like we could probably do a whole nother podcast on healing through thought.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

Yeah, I would love to get into that with you because I I I'm right there with you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

So, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

Spot on, you're spot on, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

Your thoughts, because your thoughts can make you sick or they can heal you.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

You are the medicine, really, when you get down to it.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Exactly. And if it what we could do if you're ever interested in doing this, and I'm not trying to get on there again, but it it's there's so many interesting things that that you can do with through visualization to heal.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

We could talk a lot. I would love to revisit and do that for sure. Well, we should give our our listeners once again how they can find you, any any contact information, anything you want to you want to share right now.

SPEAKER_00 38:00

Kpsessentials.com is the best way to reach out. If you are a practitioner and you want to reach us

Where To Find KPS Essentials

SPEAKER_00 38:08

that way, you can go to kpsholesale.com.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

Beautiful. Well, this has been a remarkable conversation. I really had no idea where we were gonna go, but I could sit with you guys and talk for probably a very long time. I I I I love what you guys have done. You've gone a few steps beyond some of the things I've done, but maybe in some ways tracked along some similar lines. But I I love it. I love that you've taken it to the people who need it and really reached a lot of people. And I love your your vision and the values that you hold behind it. So thank you so much for joining us today.

unknown 38:48

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 38:49

Yeah, really appreciate you. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

Well, this has been another episode of the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, and I want to thank all the listeners for making the show possible. And we will see you next time.