When The Air Feels Electric with Erin Wilkins

Some nights you’re tired, but your body acts like it just drank a gallon of espresso. That’s where our conversation with Erin Wilkins begins: the strange, charged feeling a lot of people report during big weather, seasonal transitions, and astrological windows like Lions Gate. We don’t treat it like a rulebook or a horoscope you have to obey. We treat it like a real human experience worth examining, especially when it impacts sleep, mood, and your ability to feel calm in your own skin.

We zoom out to ask what “energy” even means. We talk about photons from the sun, Earth’s magnetic field, electricity in storms, and the steady forces that hold the solar system together. From there, we explore the more mysterious side: portals, dimensions, intuition, and those moments when people seem to get a sudden “download” of insight they never studied. Joe shares a perspective shaped by deep curiosity and lived experience, including a powerful account from a cancer healing period that felt like stepping into a microscopic, quantum-like inner world through intense focus alone.

Then we get practical. Erin describes how sensitivity can show up physically, including sleep disruption that feels like vibration, chest pressure, and a racing mind, and why grounding outdoors can help you come back to baseline. We also talk about electromagnetic radiation, how modern EMF exposure can be loud enough to drown out subtler signals, and why protecting your sleep and nervous system is a core part of holistic health. Aaron shares tools like cautious use of binaural beats for pineal gland activation and simple EMF protection strategies, and we close with a clear reminder to embrace change rather than fear it.

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Welcome And The Energy Question

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Well, hello and welcome to the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, and today we have back with us Aaron Wilkins. And Aaron's got such a large resume that I'm not even going to jump into it. But we have talked about everything from soul fragment healing to honeybees with Aaron over the last few years. And we were just talking a little bit about kind of a strange time energetically. And I know that some people really connect and feel those things. Like people talk about, you know, Mercury being retrograde and certain energetic times of the year having to do with you know planets and the sun and the moon and things like that. Certainly, there's an energetic effect on the tides. So we have some big tides hitting the west coast right now. There's a big hurricane boiling up. So there's a lot of energetic things happening out here where we're at. There's also heat waves and droughts and a lot of sort of big nature things happening. And then some people don't seem to notice. Well, what's what's your I mean, I guess you know, there's also some people don't notice getting hit over the head with a rock, I suppose. True. Well, what what's your take on all that? Like, are these energetic shifts do they affect everybody and everything, or do they affect certain people more than others? Or how how does all that work?

Do Shifts Affect Everyone

SPEAKER_01 1:54

I think they affect everybody. I mean, we're all we're all little beings running around on this planet, you know. So, I mean, we're definitely affected. It's whether you're aware, you know, you can you can walk around kind of like a horse with your little blinders on the sides of your eyes, you know, so that you're not aware of everything and you can just live in like a you know a two-dimensional world rather than, you know, there's so many more dimensions, there's so many things around us. And so tapping into that is is huge. But and I think a lot of times maybe people would say, Hey, I can't really sleep, and they'll just attribute to, you know, not being able to sleep, not you know, aware that there are energies right now that are really causing a lot of people trouble with that.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

So I have never spent a whole lot of time. I mean, I've I I kind of half jokingly, you know, talk about my astrological sign and things like that. But you know, it's half-jokingly. I know that there are in some ways some kind of an influence. I've had my chart read, and I'm like, wow, that's pretty impressive. How it seems to identify pieces of me that I don't talk about much. But at the same time, I go, well, if I look at the tea leaves long enough, I can see what I want to see sometimes. And yeah, so you know, when it comes to those sorts of things, I always put myself in the driver's seat and say, I'm responsible for my choices and whatever's pushing on me one way or the other, there's always things pushing on me, and you know, it still comes down to that. But things like sleep and maybe being emotional, or uh I'm trying to understand, I guess, the nature of this energy. Like, there's we know that there's you know, photons that the sun sends down that that are actual little particles of light that that

From Sunlight To Gravity

SPEAKER_00 4:00

the sun puts out and they come all the way down here and they hit everything, and they hit plants, and they they give life, and they hit our skin, and they sometimes change its color, give you a little vitamin D. I mean, there's all these things that happen with an extra change of energy. We know there's electricity that you know happens when even raindrops fall out of the sky. We know that the earth has this iron magnetic core that's spinning around creating electricity. So we have this magnetic field that that comes up out of the ground and protects us from a lot of things. There's kind of energy all around. There's the energy of gravity, I guess. I think there's energy involved there, sort of a force that holds you down. Um there's attractive energy, repulsive energy. These are all things that we can like kind of in some way understand, I guess. You know, I'm I suppose if you wanted to even say quantify. So when it comes to energy, you're talking about the lion skate. I don't even know what that is. I mean, I and it's not because I don't care. I just, you know, there's so many things to know. I I'm I I know more about silt and sand right now because I'm refinishing the floor of my Temascal and I'm digging up clay way out of the depth of my pond, and I'm sifting it and straining it and washing it and getting this beautiful sort of quicksand stuff that I'm coating the bottom of the floor with. Well, so right now my my understanding of things is more earthbound. Yeah, I look up into the sky sometimes and I see just you know so much. It's hard for me to wrap my head around what it all means and and and what's doing what, or even what am I looking at? You know, you see these little lights, yeah. And sometimes they move, and sometimes they almost talk to you, and sometimes they just sit there and don't do anything. So there's so much that I don't understand and know. Maybe share a little bit about your knowledge about these things and these energies and what they really are.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Yeah, and you know what? I think the more time that goes, the more I realize I don't know a lot.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

Yeah, that happens a lot. The older you get, the dumber you get.

SPEAKER_01 6:27

Absolutely, you know, and I think there's a tendency to you know put too much on one thing of like, I'm gonna live my whole life by what the stars are doing or what my zodiac's saying. And I think they're useful tools to maybe explain some of the things that we might be going through, but not necessarily to base your whole life on. And I was reading today just that the Lions Gate is opening, so there's a lot of people that are struggling with sleep. Kind of this new dimension, a shift in the energies

Lions Gate, Portals, And Dimensions

SPEAKER_01 6:58

to kind of it's almost like this new direction.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

Something new is happening, something's opening, which is always Lionsgate. Like that's that's the part that I really know what that is.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

It's and I'm probably not explaining it correctly. There's probably someone watching this going, she doesn't know what she's talking about, but has something to do with the the lining up of some of the stars and the constellations, and it kind of, you know, people believe it opens up some kind of a portal when those stars are aligned.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Well, I I have seen portals and I've experienced them, and sometimes I've been real tempted to walk through them and I haven't because I don't necessarily want to know what's inside there, but yeah, but I don't know what they are, I don't know what causes them. I I don't know Jack, you know, and I go, well, if I'm experiencing something like here, like you say, we're these little specks, these little beings walking around this rock floating around in the universe. Yeah, if I can experience, you know, in my little terrestrial world, something like that, imagine, you know, out there in the universe, it probably happens in any way you can imagine. And yeah, and probably a lot of ways you can't imagine. So these ports I I can't help but think have to do with dimensions kind of intersecting with each other a little bit. It seems that like a lot of unexplained things that we experience, in my opinion, whatever that means there are so many different things in different dimensions that we don't have any clue about how they operate or what that means. Or, you know, we have this sort of three-dimensional, maybe four-dimensional world that we experience, and it's got you know, height, width, depth, and maybe some other layer that we can sort of perceive, you know, and you think to yourself, there could be thousands, millions of different dimensions that operate in any possible place. So, you know, you think about like all these things that might be happening in this very space that we're in, yeah. On different levels, you know. I've had a strange experience when I was going through my cancer healing, and right when I was like right on the edge of death, I had a little turnaround, and I and I I think it had to do with my necessity and ability to focus everything I had on this one thing. And I went into a place that all I can describe it as was like a quantum world. Like I was in a place where like there was energies that I could see, and what I would perceive to be as you know molecules, atoms, some sort of very small particles that I was in the middle of and directing and helping and moving, and I was like, whoa, you know, and there was no medicine involved, there was no chemicals involved, it was just it was just having to focus so much attention on this one thing. That told me that experience, and I went back to that place many times while sort of in that space of turning it around and going from uh a fall downhill to a climb back out of that place, and you know, for several weeks I was you know in a very, very focused spot, and I could like close my eyes and just go right back to this place over and over again. Again, no chemicals involved of any kind. And I told me that there's so much more to our experience or to this world or to this universe that you know we're walking through right now. And oh yeah, we just don't maybe know how to get there, get back, what what it is, or you know, and so sometimes when these celestial bodies, you know, then you think about well, what are they? You know, they're these planets and stars that are so far away you can't even imagine, but they from a perspective you can see them lined up and they sort of make these shapes, and you go like, oh well, somebody got the notion that this group of heavenly bodies, the way they're positioned in the universe from our point of view, represent this thing, and maybe it's just like some kind of I don't know, a download. You know, people talk about you know connecting to universal source or God or or the universe, whatever you want to call that energetically. People get messages or connections or insight in some way that says, Oh, this thing I would never know about. Here's how it is, and then also they know stuff. And I know people that have had no training and no studying about a particular topic, and they're all of a sudden start spouting it like they're professors. And I'm like, where did that come from? They're like, I don't know. One day I was just sitting with this thing, and I just boom, it just came into me. And I was like, oh, interesting. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Yeah, it was like a matrix download, right?

SPEAKER_00 12:33

Just that's what people call it, you know, and and so maybe when these stars are aligned. I mean, who knows what a star is there's people who say stars are spirits, you know, that there's sort of a a celestial, they call them celestial bodies. Yeah, oftentimes people say, you know, we're we're all made of stardust. They say, you know, maybe at one point you go ahead and get to be a star. And maybe that's sort of a thing. I don't know. I mean but somehow this energy creates these places and time and space where something's happening that that is bigger than us and somehow affects us.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

How do we collect that? Like, how do you think how do we tap into it? Like, I know like when you're walking on the ground with your bare feet and and you're in sand, or especially when there's water flowing underneath you, uh you can kind of feel that energy, like there's absolutely electrons coming up through your feet and going into your body like it's a tangible thing. You you wake up in the middle of the night, or you can't sleep, there's like static energy going on. What do we have like receptors for that, or or is it just something that's unexplained, or how does that what's your understanding of how how does that affect us? Like, you know, I can be near a plug in the wall that's full of electricity. That if I stuck my fingers in it, I'd get killed. But I'm over here, and it's not it's not affecting me, or at least noticeably.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Yeah, well, and I think a lot of that's all around us anyway, especially with electricity, because you've got the electromagnetic radiation that's constantly, you know, pouring in from lights

EMF Noise And Grounding Outside

SPEAKER_01 14:32

and computers and phones and all of that. And yeah, it does affect us, it affects us greatly. And so having that sense of again going out and grounding with nature to reset and recharge on a on a more natural frequency rather than living under this the electromagnetic radiation frequencies.

SPEAKER_00 14:51

Yeah, that's a whole nother conversation.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Yeah, that is another conversation, but it's but it's important.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

I mean, you know, this the lately in the last 20 years, especially, they put up all these big towers and the cell phones, and there's actual the satellite stuff, there's actual energy being broadcast out beyond just radio waves, and it affects life in a not particularly positive way.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

I wondered, is that do you think in some way that that is amplified or amplifies the natural energy shift that happens, that's really very subtle. You know, like when the stars align, there's a thing that's happening, but not everybody feels it. But when you're around, especially people that are around some of these towers are sources of you know electromagnetic energy that's you know, man-made. Do you think the two have a connection? Do you think that one kind of focuses the other one or in some way scrambles it or does something that causes it to affect us more?

SPEAKER_01 17:04

I mean, I think that the man-made electromagnetic radiation frequencies can be so powerful that it kind of dims your senses to be able to feel everything else. So they're in in a sense of that of you know, you do need to protect yourself and do what you can to, you know, eat healthy and keep your body as pure to be able to receive those frequencies and counteract it. You know, the natural frequencies are always going to be more powerful, but the man-made frequencies are always louder. And so that's what people hear. They hear the the cacophony of of the loudness, and sometimes they forget to tap in. And so you can get you can get lost. You can get lost in that or you know, lost in your symptoms of how it's making you feel, and and you forget that, like, hey, you know, you're feeling a certain way, but you have the power to do something with that. You have the power to change it, you have the power to be healthy, you have the power to, you know, you know, tap into your giftings and your talent so that you can be a positive force here instead of yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

I fully agree with that. I think you know, people that live by their horoscopes, I think I don't know if you ever saw that that Twilight Zone way back when with Shatner as a character, and he he was at a restaurant and he kept hitting this little thing, and it was a fortune teller, and it would tell him, and and one thing happened that lined up with it, then he became obsessed with his little fortune teller machine telling him what to do, and and it you know, it turned into this this obsession. I think a lot of people, or some people, anyways, I have no idea how many, they look for guidance in ways that is maybe you know, I mean, I I I know if you have somebody that's connected really well and they're good at doing readings, they can they can see some pretty amazing things or they can channel things, whatever, that you're like, wow, okay. But if you're looking at your newspaper horoscope or you know, something that was sort of generically done nowadays, it's probably mostly AI created. Yeah, you gotta think to yourself, all right, well, there's always sort of possibilities and likelihoods of something happening because of whatever, like you said, the moon position or the time of year, you know, if it's April, well, it's more likely it's gonna rain. So if I say it's gonna rain today in April, I'll probably be right more than I'm not. Or if you say it in August, I'm probably gonna be wrong all the time. You know, there's things that you can sort of stack the odds. And I think people that kind of rely on that for their, I don't know, their their guidance or their I don't know, direction, their compass. I mean, in some ways, maybe it's not bad because it's like following Farmer's Almanac, like they're just sort of noticing things that normally happen, you know. Plant, yeah, plant tomatoes in March and they'll be ready by May, you know. I mean, there's certain things that wisdom and and logic and and you know observation that you can that you can go by, but things like Mercury Mercury being retrograde, that to me uh was always a stumbling block because it's not even doing anything really, it just looks like it. And it's like Mercury spins around the sun the same as it always does, and there's just a point at which it looks like it's going the other way, and then people get all hung up on you know, everything's all convoluted because of that. Yeah, I I I have a little difficult time swallowing things like that, where yeah, people are pretty adamant, you know, about that's why my you know my week's been so so terrible, or that's why I'm you know having struggling with these things, and I'm thinking to myself, it's not even real, you know, it's it's a thing that it's just an observation, you know, it just appears a certain way. And but yet why does it appear that way? Is there some kind of energetic thing that happens because of the way you know you gotta think that there's a force that holds all the planets in our solar system in a particular way all the time, and it doesn't really vary that much, and when it does, planets fly out and die, you know. Yeah, and it happens once in a great while. Fortunately, not in our lifetime, but I mean it happens, and yeah, most of the time they all stay together and they do what they're supposed to do, and the moon spin around, and so so tightly that you can project where they're gonna be at a particular time, yeah, just by observing for a few years, and I think to myself, well, there's something going on, like there's definitely forces of nature, energy going on, and whether you believe in a in a man with the beard holding everything together or or something we just can't comprehend, uh I tend to lean with the something we can't comprehend, and you know, we give it names, and that's cool because that's how we identify with things, but sleep is a big deal, yep, essential to our health. It's it's one of the most, in my opinion, one of the most important components to health. And you were talking about how it was disrupting your sleep and I think to myself, well, you're a pretty sensitive

Sleep Disruption And Turning It Positive

SPEAKER_00 23:03

person. So you tend to experience maybe things that are subtle to some people in a more amplified way, maybe?

SPEAKER_03 23:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

So what is the actual experience like? Is it is it like jittery energy where you're just like can't settle down and you just can't seem to relax, or is it something that is an annoyance, like a ringing in your ear that just won't shut up, or is it like how like how is it that that it during this time it's affected you that way?

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Yeah, it's it's it's super interesting. And so I mean, I kind of compare it to if I'm out and about in public and I feel like I'm getting a word for somebody or starting to sense an aura on somebody. I always feel it in my hands. My hands start to heat up.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Really?

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Yeah, so I know that I know that there's someone in that room with me right then that either needs like a chakra clearing or a word or something. And so so I try to just tap into that energy. So it's been like that at night, probably for the last week, where all of a sudden it just hits me. I'm resting, I'm almost ready to sleep, and then it feels like you know, an elephant just sat on my chest. I can't get my breath. My my entire body is like vibrating. Oh, and my mind is going a thousand miles a minute, and I know it's not me. I know something's going on. And so usually what I have been doing is I just come outside and I ground, just connect to the earth and just sit there for a while and feel the breeze and listen to the wind in the trees and just connect with the universe, knowing that okay, I'm supposed to be used for something at some point. It's just hitting me at one in the morning. So obviously, I'm not, you know, marching off to give some word to somebody at one in the morning, but you know, it's important to re kind of recharge myself because I do sense that something big is shifting, is changing, and I'm happy to be a part of it. I don't know what it's gonna be, but I want to be an instrument in that, and so it's almost like fine-tuning me right now, is how I'm taking it of like, hey, I'm not sleeping, but I think I'm fine-tuning for something.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

So that's good. You're you're you're taking a potentially difficult experience and turning it into something positive. That's uh kind of a lesson that comes up here over and over again.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

Yeah, well, and I think we need to do that because I mean, if I were to sit and say, Oh my gosh, I haven't slept in a week, I'm grumpy, my back hurts, my neck hurts, you know, boo hoo, poor me.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

Right.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Um, all of that focus is so inward when you know, our focus was never supposed to be so self-centered. It's meant to be outward. We're meant to be giving. And as we give, I mean, it also gives to us. Oh, yeah. Um, you know, so you know, you need to take that as like, okay, you know, obviously I'm not getting a lot of sleep, so I'm not at 100%. My cup's not full. I can't just run out yet and start giving to everybody because I'll drain my battery.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

Right.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

But something's happening, something big is happening that's charging my battery, and I have to just kind of keep quiet, keep to myself until the, you know, till the go button is pushed. And, you know, I think I'll know once I start sleeping really well and my cup gets full, you know, what that's gonna be. But something's shifting, and I think it's happening for a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

Nice. Yeah, I've I feel like that's happening for me in a particular way as well. In a in a very good way. I'm looking, you know, I'm I'm looking forward to bringing this new thing up to life. Do you think there's a way that people can I don't know if harness is a good word, but access these energies in a in a more concentrated way? Or is there a way that people can protect themselves from these energies and keep from being affected?

SPEAKER_01 27:30

Absolutely. I think that's well, that's kind of twofold. I think for opening yourself up, probably the easiest and quickest way is using biurnal beats. And you can

Binaural Beats And Simple Protection

SPEAKER_01 27:40

just go onto YouTube and you can put like it would be pineal gland activation. So activating that pineal gland opens up your third eye so you are more aware of colors and auras and frequencies and everything around us. That being said, be very careful. If you tap that in and you find one, if you're not used to it, I wouldn't go for more than like one to two minutes to start with. It can actually be very painful and it can be very, well, eye-opening, so to speak, where it's like all of a sudden stuff's happening and it's kind of freaky. It could be for a lot of people. So I would, you know, ease yourself into that definitely. But that's a pretty simple and easy way, you know, a minute or two a day just to kind of activate that gland and open it back up. Because I think that with the environment and the air and the water and the food and vaccines and all of that, it's really trying to damage that part of us that we are beings that are way more dimensions than three. So that's a super easy way to do that. As far as protection goes, there's diodes that you can find or copper, things like that that you can place on your phone, that you can place in your house that kind of repel a lot of those electromagnetic radiation frequencies. Those are super good as well.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

Nice, nice. Yeah, I've actually I think tomorrow it's coming. I'm getting a thing from my swimming pool that is got a copper anode in it, and it's solar copper and it's supposed to keep the algae good down. Excellent. You know, I know it's it kind of follows along with the electroculture idea of helping the good things and keeping the bad things at bay, and absolutely keeps like all of this kind of falls in line. Well, Aaron, as always, we have a great conversation when we sit down. Is there, you know, you were talking about sometimes you get called to give a word. Is there a word you'd like to leave our audience with here?

SPEAKER_01 29:48

Don't be afraid of change.

Final Word: Embrace Change

SPEAKER_01 29:52

I think that we get comfortable. And as you get comfortable, it it seems to me kind of like a pond that's gonna get filled with algae, never moving. And you know, we get scared of the rapids or the ripples or the or all of those little things that could happen. And embrace it, try to embrace that change. Life's full of change, and I think that if we get comfortable being stagnant, we're only gonna get hurt. So try to embrace it, you know, open yourself up to embracing that change. Bad things are gonna happen, but if you kind of like let them back flow back through the ripples, you know, good will come of it, but you just have to be willing and open.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

I couldn't agree more. I think that's some sound advice. Well, as always, it's been a pleasure having a chat with you. Look forward to the next one. And to all of our listeners, this has been another episode of the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Gruman, and I want to thank all of the listeners for making the show possible. And we will see you next time.