
ACUMA ONpoint
ACUMA ONpoint
Embracing Authenticity in Financial and Comic Worlds
How does a mortgage loan officer juggle the worlds of finance and comedy? On this episode of the ONpoint Podcast, ACUMA President Peter Benjamin sits down with Allie Hager of Telhio Credit Union. Allie shares her journey from the rigid structure of big banks to the supportive environment of credit unions, where she discovered her true calling. Along the way, she talks about balancing work and stand-up comedy, helping families achieve homeownership, and embracing resilience, humor, and authenticity. Don’t miss this inspiring blend of wisdom, laughter, and personal growth! Tune in to the latest.
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Speaker 3:Today I am joined by Allie Hager, mortgage Loan Officer with Telhio Credit Union. Allie, how are you doing today?
Speaker 5:I am so good. Thank you so much for having me. I've been so excited.
Speaker 3:Oh, my pleasure, my pleasure. I'm really excited to have a conversation with you. There's, I think we have a friend in common who's give me a little insight into you and we'll dive into that. But before we do, as always, we got to pull the hawk in. Justin, how you doing today and what's the latest and greatest happening over at Acuma.
Speaker 2:I'm good, peter. How are you living the dream? Someone's or yours, always mine. There we go. See, I almost got you with that one. I don't know why I paused, and I think about it first, think about whose dream it was.
Speaker 3:Whose dream is this? Maybe? It's your wife's dream. Don't wake me, man, don't wake me.
Speaker 2:Not yet, at least right, that's right, yeah. So over here at Acumen, we're in the full swing of event planning, which pretty much starts as one event ends and the next one begins, and we just keep going all year round. But our first in-person event is coming up on April 8th and 9th, which will be our viewpoint regional summit. So, if you haven't heard me say it on previous episodes, this one's going to be a little bit different. We're going to have an experience along with it. So we're going to be heading out to see the blue wahoos. Wahoo, which is a minor league baseball team they're going to take on which I haven't decided which one's my favorite team, even though it's going to be the Blue Wahoos but they're taking on the Montgomery Biscuits, something about no, seriously like something about biscuits and Wahoos, like I mean, come on, these are the greatest names ever wahoos, like I mean, come on like, these are the greatest names ever.
Speaker 2:I was already planning on buying a hat and blue haus. Yeah, exactly, but now you got to find one for the montgomery biscuits.
Speaker 3:Just because, you know, minor leagues always have the best hats yeah like they really do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have one with the sea dragon on it.
Speaker 3:That's's pretty good, I forgot the name of it, but there's one in Oregon that has, and it's impossible to find, Cause I always like the team or the hat. The hat Okay, I like the low profile fitted ones, but it's the. Why am I blinking on it? It's Oregon. Hops, I don't think the town, but it's like it's a you know the.
Speaker 2:I like brewing beer, and so it's literally it's. It's it's a, you know, a hop clove holding a baseball bat. So we all just learned a couple new things about you one you love brewing beer. Well, that's not new exactly. There we go all right.
Speaker 2:Uh, besides that, um registration just opened up for our focal point workshops, so we have two of those. They're happening May 6th and 7th the first one, which will be in Savannah, georgia, and then the second one will be June 3rd and 4th in Seattle, washington. So if you're not registered for one of those two events, what are you waiting on? The Viewpoint Regional Summit is free for credit unions and CUSOs, so come out, see us, take in all the education that we have to offer. And then also, you want to mark your calendars because our 2025 Make your Mark Annual Conference will be happening in Denver, colorado, from September 21st to the 24th. Registration will be opening soon, so be on the lookout for that as well. So if you can't make it to an in-person event, don't worry. We have plenty of educational content all year round with our webinars, our fast tracks and inside track series, along with our on point podcast.
Speaker 3:All right, appreciate it, man, as always. Thank you very much. Yes, thank you All right, ali. So, friend in common, the amazing Scotty, he is amazing, he is amazing.
Speaker 5:Allie, so friend in common, the amazing, scotty.
Speaker 3:Hey, he is amazing. He is amazing. Like I said earlier, he is the best self promoter on earth. But he also said that you are absolutely fantastic and we had to have you on that. You are doing some amazing things and you're just an overall great person. So when I was like, okay, scotty, if, if, this person's all right by you, they're all right by me, and I have to talk to this person, so that's why we're here now, one thing that scotty a did tell me about was that you are a stand-up comic and because you are a stand-up comic, I guess we're, we, we all kind of are figure what's. You know the second segment's going to be, and so we know what that's going to be. It's going to be the dad joke. So I won't spoil, alert, we're doing dad jokes, but I I, before we get to you, know the meat and potatoes of today's conversation. I have to know tell me about this whole stand-up thing oh my gosh.
Speaker 5:So that is a loose term to say that I am a stand-up comedian, but I am. I did a stand-up comedy because I get myself into situations that I can't get myself out of and then I just have to go with it. So it was the. It's called the last con or the last standing comic, and it's a real estate show that's put on and do a couple of these a year and so it's usually realtors, mortgage loan officers. So I was one of four contestants this past time that got to go and it's in front of 400 of our industry peers, sold out at the funny bone like the craziest the on stage, all the things. So so yes, I have done stand-. Comedy. I would say that that's the first furthest I can go All right?
Speaker 3:Well, scotty should be your promoter because he painted the picture. He painted the picture as though you were like some, you know Dane cook type standup comedian and that you were going on tour any minute.
Speaker 5:Now, oh my god, um so I mean I can, I will, if the opportunity calls. I always say yes, so whatever hands down.
Speaker 3:We're going on tour. All right, excellent, excellent, excellent. Ali hager going on tour. It's like the heirs tour, but scotty a is promoting comedy, absolutely, absolutely well, that's awesome. I mean that that's always kind of sort of been the dream of of mine of doing stand-up comedy, just with dad jokes, just going up there and seeing a whole you know. So you haven't met her yet, but can you imagine and justin, I'm looking at you can you imagine going into like a room of cameron's cameron's on our team and cameron's what? 27, I don't know she is, but yeah, and just like just going up there and doing just not like an hour of dad jokes, and every time we do a dad joke she just rolls her eyes and that would just, I would although she would hate it I would just love every second internally. I think that's the best part of dad jokes is that cringe factor?
Speaker 3:yes, 100 yeah because internally they're laughing, on the outside they're like when's this gonna stop?
Speaker 5:yeah, they don't want to laugh, but yeah, they know it's funny.
Speaker 2:Absolutely 100%. Well, the younger they are, they're too cool for school still. So you know.
Speaker 3:I know and say what. And we, officially, about a month ago, we transitioned to the betas.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what they're like yeah, so those are going to be the beta test.
Speaker 3:Children, keep thinking that every time I hear beta my kids. My kids are alphas and they hate that jokes.
Speaker 2:What if the betas logo was like beta fish? Yeah, we're not even at the segment yet. Yep, that happened.
Speaker 3:Justin, I'm segwaying. All right, allie, I'm sad. Thanks for ruining a moment, justin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no problem, that's what I'm here for, all right.
Speaker 3:All right. So, allie, I appreciate you walking me through that. I had to ask that question, of course, yes, but all right. So, ali, I appreciate you walking me through that I had to ask that question, of course, yes, but all right. So first question. I always ask this first question and technically it's not the first question anymore, but but so now it's the second question. But I always preface this question with the same exact industry, and so, to that point, tell us about yourself. What makes Allie Allie? What keeps you going? Who are you?
Speaker 5:Yeah, so I am, first of all, a wife, a mom of three kids. I am a self-starter and someone, like I said, that gets myself into a lot of situations that then I'm like all right, we're just doing this, we're going with it. So I have been a mortgage loan officer for since 2014. And so I am a mortgage lender and I have been in the credit union space for six years. So I have seen big bank, I've seen brokerage, I've seen credit union and I've been in all of them, and I will promote credit unions all day long, just based on experience.
Speaker 5:But I'm a person who is always looking for how I can get better or what I can do to be better, or something new that I can learn. And I would say I used to like what used to really make me tick is trying to find my purpose. Like I would not truly know what my purpose was and I would just be out looking to see, like, can I figure out what this would be? And now I, based on experience and things that I've seen and people that I've worked with and a lot of no's along the way, I've kind of discovered that my purpose is to be a person that's going to say yes to things that most people will say no to, and so now I'm like living that and it's been really cool to see the opportunities and like just the path from doing that.
Speaker 3:No, I mean, that's awesome, and you're not the first person to really say I kind of sort of found my purpose in the credit union world.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Right, and I've said it right I lost my. I lost my way, you know, working for banks. You know I lost my way working for IMBs. I found it again at credit unions. Right, and I think that's what makes credit unions so special right, and I think that's why we push so hard to advocate for credit unions is because you know they really are this amazing place. Not just you know to work, but you know the idea of you know people helping people. You know it's. You know our communities, our members, really could embrace the idea of getting their home loans through a credit union. They really would see that, hey, these are people who believe in the idea, hey, of we're putting families in homes, right.
Speaker 3:You know it's. I was talking to someone earlier today and you know they said you know jokingly and it's serious. You know, like every single time that they, you know, go to you know a broker conference, they feel like the second they come home they have to take a shower, right, and the funny thing is like that couldn't be more true.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, it's so true.
Speaker 3:It's like it's, but it's different, right it's. Credit unions are special and I love that. You said I found my way way again, right, because that's why we do what we do, right. So thank you very much for sharing that. Now, as always, you and I had a conversation pre-recording and I really liked something you said and I wanted to kind of pick up where we left off about one of the things that you said in our conversation pre-recording, and it was really about making mistakes and how, really, that you've learned from your mistakes and how that throughout your career, you've had a lot of trial and error and how that throughout your career you've had a lot of trial and error and that, ultimately, through that trial and error, you've been able to learn from those mistakes and been more successful.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 3:Now, the reason why I like having this conversation is I want to have this conversation is because I think there's a lot of lessons to learn from it. Right, I think the most successful people learn from their mistakes, right, and you know, I come from the school of thought that, and maybe it's my change management background. But if something, if a process doesn't work, it's not a failure, right, it's just a reason for us to learn and to improve. Yeah, right, and I'm going to keep trying to improve, improve, improve until I get it right, right, and a lot of people don't don't see that A lot of people don't learn from their mistakes. They just truly don't. Yeah, they only go out and they just give up. So walk us through, like you know, some of these, these lessons learned. Walk us through that career journey that that really kind of made you who you are today. And again, scottie said you were something special. Let's kind of, let's kind of walk through this and the trials and errors.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so I, when I started, I was at a big bank, so that was 2000,. Actually 2011 that I got into the industry, 2014 that I started lending. But yeah, so I was young when I started. I was 24 when I got into the mortgage industry. I was 24 when I got into the mortgage industry and so in that time I was getting led by people who I knew I could probably do what they were doing, but I was too afraid to do it because I was getting a lot of like you would never be able to do this. Like you should stay just assisting at this point. Like it's really hard to do this job, stay just assisting at this point. Like it's really hard to do this job. Like a lot of no's that just honestly pushed me to want to do it more. So I had one manager at that bank who believed in me that let me start lending. And I still was getting a lot of no's and throughout that time and leaving there and getting introduced to the credit union and getting started at the credit union I, once I got here, like well, I like found my rhythm. So I would say my.
Speaker 5:My year of finding myself and knowing that I could do this job was when I was 33 years old. So I was 33 years old, it was 2020. So I was 33 years old, it was 2020. I, that year, closed 33 million in loans and I was just. I got promoted to team lead. All these things were happening and I started reading books like High Performance Habits by Brendan Burchard. There was a book called Girl Wash your Face that I read by Rachel Hollis. Just self-help things to be like. No, I got this, Like even if other people don't believe that I can do this, like I believe that I can do this. So that year I just fell into my own.
Speaker 5:And then it was like a year-ish later I was on maternity leave with my third, with my daughter, and I got the opportunity to go start a team and lead all of Columbus for another big bank. And I let it get to my head and I was like I'm only 35, but I was going to give myself to 40 to get into management. But I'm like if they want me now and I say no, then that means someone else gets to do this. So I have to do this, so I have to do this. So I took that, left the credit union, went for that opportunity.
Speaker 5:I was there 10 months, 10 months of a terrible imposter syndrome, like waking up in the morning dreading having to go in. I built a team. I had a team of six. We weren't doing bad, Everything was honestly going pretty well but it was literally me, every single day of like they're going to find out that I literally have no idea what I'm doing. And I was the youngest person on my team.
Speaker 5:Everyone was older than me and the day I knew I was in the wrong room was when I was literally in a room and my upper management called everyone that was in my same position into a meeting, except for me. They were in a closed office and I was outside of the office and I was like this isn't, this isn't my space, Like I'm not, I shouldn't be here. And so, luckily, had stayed friends with all my friends at the credit union and they luckily wanted me back, I guess later I found out that they, like the day I left, said we have to get her back, but they let me go out and find my way, which I appreciate. So, um, I and that whole year of being there, like I was not getting referrals from any of my realtor partners. It was such a strange time and so got back.
Speaker 5:I've been back for um like 10 months, I guess now, and coming back to the confidence of just being back at a place that I know that I belong in, that like truly cares about me genuinely as a person and that truly genuinely cares about other people and helping people, and just the stories that I can tell of the people that I've gotten to do loans for and the way that my confidence then shows to my realtor partners and the referrals now that are just like flowing in. It's just such a testament of like stay like you can be. A lot of people will say like you're not going to grow if you don't get outside of your comfort, like you can't be in your comfort zone, You're never going to grow. But my platform now is you can be in your zone but you can stretch within your own zone and that's where you're going to be your best.
Speaker 3:No, I mean a hundred percent and thank you for walking us through that. I think we've all, throughout our career, have had that, that moment of imposter syndrome Right, and there's nothing scarier than having it Right Just out of curiosity. Did you ever find out what they were talking about behind that closed door?
Speaker 5:I, I actually don't I feel just like well, this stinks peace out like it probably wasn't good for me at that, like I think I was seeing the writing on the wall, so it was probably a good time to leave yeah, I mean, it's never a good sign.
Speaker 3:Never a good sign when you could have a conversation now. We're just out of curiosity, like how many people were you managing?
Speaker 5:just remind me of that when I went to the other, coming to the big bank I was, there were six people that were on my team that I hired in and so here you are, managing people had more experience, older and you had this imposter syndrome.
Speaker 3:Do they make you feel like, like you didn't belong?
Speaker 5:100, 100%. There was one guy specifically who hated every part of me being the manager, some daily struggle, but yeah, and I mean and but there was a day that I I don't know what came over me, but I got. I was like no, I'm the manager in this situation. So I sat down with him and I said I got hired into this position for a reason and I'm not going anywhere. So one of us would have to go somewhere and I'm not going anywhere essentially, and I think that just standing up for myself a bit honestly made him respect me a little bit more. But yeah, I mean, it was very apparent that they were like not fully trusting what I was saying as a manager, even though we were not doing bad, like we were doing honestly pretty well. So or it might've been, but I think probably too, it is like me overthinking the whole thing.
Speaker 3:I mean that's part of it, right. I mean so you know, one of the things that always makes it tough right now I kind of got sidetracked. I was. I was really interested. If you've ever found out what they were talking about behind closed doors was.
Speaker 5:I kind of wish I didn't know. I don't really know. I don't think I cared to know you know.
Speaker 3:But one of the things you know with imposter syndrome is, yes, you kind of step into these situations where you might have imposter syndrome. I think we all have it right, we step into these positions. I mean, heck, when I, when I took this position, I, I I often still have it right where, like, what the heck am I doing in this, this job? Like I'm just a nobody. But one of the things that kind of helps us combat that is staying true to ourselves, right, yep, and not not giving up on our values, not portraying who we are, yeah, and that, as long as we continue to focus on that compass and that tends to overshadow that, I guess it's a fear, right, the fear of being discovered as a fraud.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's a thing.
Speaker 3:So what were some of those things that you stayed true to that allowed you to kind of stay strong in that difficult situation?
Speaker 5:So something I found out about myself is that my faith and I think this has recently hit me is that my fate and I think this has recently hit me. I don't even realize I do this because it's nothing that's like huge or things that other people couldn't choose to do if they didn't want to. But one of my favorite statements that people say to me is I would never like, there's no way. How do you even do that? I would never do something like that. Like I love when someone says that to me and it's things like that I go to the gym at 5 am or that I go to early morning networking meetings. Like I go to a 7.30 in the morning networking meeting every week. Or the stand-up comedy stuff.
Speaker 5:Like I read a stat that more people would want to swim with sharks than to public speak and that's so true. Like there's I had so many conversations cause I was like you know, I wish this would have went better. Like I had such high hopes, blah, blah, blah. But after I mean, there's so many people that are like you did something that nobody would ever want to do. There's no, you would never find me on a stage doing stand up comedy in front of 400 people. That's so crazy, like I don't even know how you did that.
Speaker 5:And so I'm finding out that I'm having those kind of conversations a lot, and so I think that's where I maybe shine or, like stay true to who I am, because I'm still going to do that, like I'm still going to wake up and work out at 5 am, or I'm still going to go to the early morning meeting, or I'm still going to do that, like I'm still going to wake up and work out at 5am, or I'm still going to go to the early morning meeting where I'm still going to say yes to opportunities that come up, even if they're uncomfortable, because I want to, not because someone else is going to put their fear into me to like that I won't. And so I think when people see that, or people are watching that even from afar, that that still gains a little bit of respect, because they're like I would never in a million years wake up and work out at 5. Am. That's so crazy.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm right there with you Um, I'm an early morning person, but it's. It's that frame of mind, right, you? You kind of have to make that conscious decision, just like you have to make that conscious, conscious decision to let that fear overcome you.
Speaker 5:Yeah Right, that's decision. Just like. You have to make that conscious, conscious decision to let that fear overcome you. Yeah right, that's all. Yes, and I'm not by nature an adventurous person, like I'm not. Those conversations are not like oh my gosh, you want sky. I mean, I went like the things I'm doing to me seem so simple and yet there's still like are so many people that are like there's never a way I would ever do that, and so I think sticking with that and then finding that within myself is what then like has just like coming back to the credit union and just having the confidence and like. So having that confidence plus the confidence of the who I truly am, and like my values and what I still hold true to who I am and I'm not changing, like I'm myself through and through, in conversations with friends, with family, at work, like I'm just who I am, and I think that that has helped me in my career because I'm not fake, like I'm just staying true to how I am every single day.
Speaker 3:You're genuine.
Speaker 5:Yeah, a hundred percent.
Speaker 3:You gotta be it. You gotta be it. I mean I love that. I mean I think that's that. That's one of our, you know, big things that we that we love about you know our little group is that you know we're all pretty genuine, right. As long as you can be your authentic, genuine self, you'll, you'll always be successful, regardless, right, and you can't let fear overtake you, because you're especially if you have that imposter syndrome, because all that's going to do is make that fear of being discovered overcome you.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I can freeze you, I that entire year I was not, I was just. I could feel that I was different. It's just a different type. It like plays mind tricks on you.
Speaker 3:Did anyone else notice it, like, did you like your husband notice it? Did your, did other coworkers who knew you notice it?
Speaker 5:I honestly don't think that people noticed it. I think it was a very internal battle that I was having because I would have to show up each day. I was fully confident in being there but like internally I was dying, like I was just always so like overstressed, overthinking, just like I could feel it in myself. But I don't think there was. I mean people on my team. I would get us into places or in front of groups or going to huge realtor meetings, like I would. I would set those things up and I would get us to the right places. So I think I was my imposter syndrome internally was hurting me, but probably outwardly kind of helping, just because I was like pushing more to overcome like that feeling I was having.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's, it's as, as I can tell and you know, as you can see it's. You're passive, you're back in your safe spot, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You're at Tel safe spot, right, yeah, you're at Tell Ohio. Right, you came back to the credit union space and you're once again seeing success. Right, it's your comfort zone. Right, it's your binky, it's your blanket. Right, and now everything's OK.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 5:Yeah, for sure, and.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure. And.
Speaker 5:Tell Ohio is just awesome anyway. I mean, they've been around. They weren't celebrated 90 years last year? Like they, they've been around. You walk into a room, you tell someone where you're from, like they it's good to work there.
Speaker 3:Good, and that's what the credit union movement's about. Yeah, yeah, awesome. Well, before we transition, I always ask two final questions because we need to start transitioning. Well, one of the final questions is any final thoughts, any words of wisdom that you can provide someone, as they? You know, perhaps someone has some you know imposter syndrome out there and they're just not sure how to overcome it. Perhaps you know someone's really struggling right now with just getting past. You know a whole bunch of mistakes, so any final words of wisdom that you can give someone?
Speaker 5:Yeah. So I would say that I something that I've recently really started implementing is the let them theory. I don't know if you're familiar, but the let them theory is essentially, let them think what they want to think and let me do what I'm going to do, regardless. And so just getting past other people's opinions of you or what you're doing, or, if it's different than what they're used to, still just being okay with knowing that you are doing what you actually want to be doing, what you're going to be best at doing. So I would say that that is number one. I would say, staying true to yourself, to your values, just really relying heavily. I rely, I'm a believer, and so I rely heavily on the word of God, and I think that my number one verse that I lean on a lot is Romans 8 eight 28,.
Speaker 5:That says that he's going to work everything out for the good of those who love him and are called according to his purpose. And so I am. That's something I lean on every single day. That you know. I have the backing of that and, um, so, yeah, I would say to stay true to who you are and don't let other people's opinions fog what you know that you're going to be best at.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. That's awesome. Thank you very much for sharing that. And the last question, as always what keeps you going? You're like everyone else, one foot out of bed every single day. What keeps you motivated? What keeps you driving every single day?
Speaker 5:Yeah, I would say my motivating factor and the biggest purpose of my life is my kids. So I just want to be the best at what I do, to show them that they can be the best and that they just you know, whatever you want to do, you can do, you can strive for whatever you want to do. I want them to see me, I want to lead by example for them and I'm just really thankful to get to be a mom and so they're my like daily why and they really pushed me to just do the best I can.
Speaker 3:I absolutely love that answer. I absolutely love that answer. Well, allie, as I mentioned earlier, it's time for us to transition to our second segment Now. Always, we typically do Jeopardy, we do fun facts, but I already said it, we're doing dad jokes today, the most, the most requested segment of the show, dad jokes, and I don't know the fact that you are a standup comic. Yes, you are officially a standup comic.
Speaker 5:I'll take it.
Speaker 3:We're we're. We're doing dad jokes and you came prepared with two dad jokes, so here's what we do. We're doing dad jokes and you came prepared with two dad jokes. So here's what we do. We're going to go around the horn. You'll do your two dad jokes, Justin will do his two dad jokes and I'll wrap up with my two dad jokes and then we'll just close out. Sound good.
Speaker 5:Yep Sounds good All right.
Speaker 3:Fire away whenever you're ready.
Speaker 5:All right, you ready, let's do it. Okay, the first one. Alright, you ready, let's do it. Why don't skeletons fight each other?
Speaker 3:Why.
Speaker 5:They ain't got the guts.
Speaker 3:That was good. Justin's laughing Bam.
Speaker 5:You ready for the second one, please? What did the sushi say to the bee? I don't know the wasabi, wasabi that's a good one, that's a good one. The adjuncts are so embarrassing.
Speaker 3:I love them. I love them so much, justin, oh my gosh, I love them so much.
Speaker 2:Justin, oh my gosh. So mine are more like holiday related, but have you ever made a new year's resolution and stuck to it? No, the only one that has ever worked for me is procrastinating yeah and then Valentine's Day just passed, so we can't, you know, not pay homage to that. But what did the puzzle say on Valentine's Day? No idea you complete me. Oh okay, I don't like you, peter do you want to do another one?
Speaker 2:yes, I do. I hate when you get mine. Uh, how do you? How do you put a flower in the friend zone? How you tell it, you're my best bud okay, that was good.
Speaker 3:Okay, that was good. All right, my turn. What do you call the pink fleshy bites between the shark's teeth?
Speaker 2:Oh, human flesh, slow swimmers.
Speaker 5:That too.
Speaker 2:Alright, yes.
Speaker 3:You know, growing up, the weirdest summer job I ever had was cleaning the monkey cages at the local zoo. That shit was bananas yes, and now we're you're welcome, justin.
Speaker 2:I was saving it for the very end you said damn earlier, so we lost it oh damn it all right.
Speaker 3:All right, it's okay. And that wraps up dad jokes for this episode. Thank you very much, ali, for joining us today. Really do appreciate your time it was such a pleasure.
Speaker 3:Oh, great, great, great great, and I really do appreciate you know talking to you. It was a great conversation. I really enjoy everything that you're doing over at Telhio. Keep up the great work. I really do appreciate the fact that Scottie A introduced us Love an opportunity to see you at one of our events learn more about your story. I think it's important that the Credit Union movement continues to have more people like you that are invested in our communities and our members, but also that our true believers in what we do. So one thank you for that. I think that's very important. But but two, again, this is a great conversation, so thank you very much.
Speaker 5:Yes, thank you so much, and it's actually on my goal list for 2025 to attend a conference. So Excellent, excellent, excellent and.
Speaker 3:Justin, as always, thank conference so excellent, Excellent, excellent. And Justin, as always, thank you. Thank you, it was my pleasure. And, to close out, thank you again to Polygon Research for sponsoring today's episode and to all of you. We know your time is valuable. Thank you for tuning into the latest episode of Actors On Point podcast. We hope you enjoyed it.
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