1: Amrit Sandhu | Inspired Evolution - Uncovering Your Unique Strength and Purpose

What if you could uncover your unique strength or "medicine" and use it to create a purposeful and fulfilling life? 

Join us as we chat with Amrit Sandhu, the host of the popular Inspired Evolution podcast, who shares his journey of self-discovery and how he's helped others do the same.

Searching for a deeper meaning than just working 9-5 and having a “normal weekend,” Amrit started to host talks in his living room, inviting people to talk on subjects of personal development. The talks grew in popularity, and Amrit began to produce the podcast 'Inspired Evolution.' 

Now more than 250 episodes later, Amrit is a world-renowned speaker and coach. His podcast features interviews with the world’s greatest thinkers, minds, hearts, and spiritual leaders dedicated to self-improvement and personal development. 

In our conversation, we delve into the importance of aligning your life with your core values and the profound impact having a supportive person in your corner can make.

Hear how Amrit's journey with Inspired Evolution has led to countless connections and insights, including a powerful encounter with Marianne Williamson and the concept of spiritual entrepreneurship. 

We also explore some of the most inspiring lessons Amrit has learned through his more than 250 incredible podcast episodes.

We wrap up by discussing the power of consistency, mindset, and resilience in personal development and how overcoming challenges can lead to our greatest gifts. 

Learn about the delicate balance between ego and soul and how embracing humility can help guide us on our life path. 

Don't miss this treasure trove of inspiration that will empower you to make a positive impact on the world around you.

See show notes at TheConrad.Family/SelfDirected1

🗓️ Recorded August 29th, 2022. 📍Lille Skendsved, Denmark

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Chapters

• 0:00 Podcasting for Life's Path
• 14:38 Living in Alignment With Your Values
• 21:27 The Inspired Evolution Journey
• 31:42 Lessons and Inspiration I have learned through 250 podcast episodes
• 37:16 Overcoming Challenges and Offering Your Gift to the World
• 46:57 Ego and Soul

Transcript

Transcript of Self Directed Episode 1

E1 - The Intersection of Spirituality and Personal Growth: A dialogue with Amrit Sandhu

Please note: This transcript is autogenerated by AI voice recognition - so there will probably be some transcription errors along the way 🙂

[00:00:00] Jesper Conrad: Welcome to Self-Directed. We are your host Lia, and today's guest is Am Santo. Yeah. Today we have, uh, invited Emrich, the host of the popular podcast called Inspired E Evolution, where he has done more than 200 episodes and we have been honored to be guest there. He also have created an online course called Launch Your Podcast.

[00:00:23] Jesper Conrad: From Idea to iTunes and we have taken this course and now you are here and it's one of our first guests. 

[00:00:30] Amrit Sandhu: So welcome. It's such a pleasure and such a gift to be here. Thank you so much for A, having me. And then also B, launching your podcast using the Launch, your podcast. Uh, yeah, we talked about it for 

[00:00:43] Cecilie Conrad: years.

[00:00:45] Cecilie Conrad: Yeah. Yeah. Mostly because I remember when we wanted to go further outside the box than we already were. There was not a lot. Not a lot. Now it's exploding, but back then. If I wanted to learn how life [00:01:00] is for other people out there, I I, I had like two or three blocks to follow and one little podcast and, and it was all American and 

[00:01:09] Amrit Sandhu: yeah, 

[00:01:09] Cecilie Conrad: no offense, but we are not Americans and we don't live in the States, so our conditions and options and maybe obstacles are different.

[00:01:19] Amrit Sandhu: You know, I totally resonate with what you're saying because when IF Oh, sorry, I interrupted. No, no, 

[00:01:23] Cecilie Conrad: no. Please go ahead. 

[00:01:24] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. Just when, when, when I, when I first started my podcast, it was much the same. Like, I had actually had a, a friend of c like a bunch of community here, and you know, over time we learned what our medicine is, and mine is connecting people, was one of my, one of my medicines.

[00:01:36] Amrit Sandhu: And you know, there's all this amazing community around me who brought 'em all together and they were just having these amazing conversations in my home every fortnight. And they were like, you should start a podcast. And I was like, oh. And I checked out a couple of podcasts. And again, nothing against Americans, but the American podcasts that I was choosing tuning into were like, um, the expert, listen to me.

[00:01:56] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. You know? And it was very like, I'm the [00:02:00] eternal humble student. Don't listen to me. Maybe, you know, let me learn. And it was, yeah, I found it. Um, culturally there was, because at the time I think. The sort of pinnacle of podcasting was in America, and it still is driven a lot by American culture in terms of the free media movement that they basically started through podcasting because the podcast came from the iPod, Steve Jobs, apple, all of that.

[00:02:24] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah, yeah. The uptake was greatest there, but I think now it's, you know, spread all around the world and you know, I think more and more people start exploring the medium for what it truly can be, which is just a free expression of your own deepest desires and thoughts and opinions and, which 

[00:02:37] Cecilie Conrad: is amazing.

[00:02:38] Cecilie Conrad: It's amazing. It's incredible, isn't it? Yeah. And the Americans make amazing podcasts. I listen, listen to American podcast. I can't speak podcasts every week. 

[00:02:50] Jesper Conrad: Yeah. 

[00:02:50] Cecilie Conrad: It's not that I mind, but I just think in, in the whole choir of it, we need something that comes from other angles. Of course. So [00:03:00] that was why we talked about it and we talked about it and we talked about it for years.

[00:03:06] Cecilie Conrad: And now we do it. 

[00:03:07] Amrit Sandhu: And now we do it. And that is, what was the click? What was the moment that when you always wanted to sort of do it, but then there was a moment where something just tipped over and it was like, yep, I'm, I'm doing it. It went from I'm gonna do it to, I did it. What was the tip? 

[00:03:18] Jesper Conrad: The the final tip.

[00:03:19] Jesper Conrad: The first tip there is more than one, uh, was actually the talk we had with you after the podcast episode. We did you with you. And after we finished the recording, and he was like, Cecilia said, okay, yes. Well let's, let's do it. Let's take this launch your podcast program he has and actually get started. So now.

[00:03:38] Cecilie Conrad: We have to ask questions. Yeah. He asked the question, the situation right now. 

[00:03:44] Jesper Conrad: No, that's, that's, but I'm, I'm gonna answer. But then the, the, what finally ticked was that I read the, the book, uh, hook points by Brenda Kane, who was also made with another book called 1 million Followers in 30 Days. And in that [00:04:00] book he writes, um, I say yes to podcasts, interviews, no matter how big they are.

[00:04:04] Jesper Conrad: So I was like, okay, let's test him. Uh, so I wrote to him, Hey, uh, we have a podcast. Uh, I would like to interview and. It was just sending an arrow out there in the universe. And then he responded, I can do this in this state. And I was like, we, you hooked Hook Point. You hooked Hook Point. Okay, now we need to create that podcast.

[00:04:28] Jesper Conrad: Fantastic. But, but fantastic. But so it, it, it was actually, it just needed to happen. And at some point we, we took the idea and, uh, made it happen. But we want to ask you questions Emerald. And one of them is, I, I would love to hear more about how it started you, you said a word I didn't quite, uh uh, heard about what kind of person you are, what did you call it?

[00:04:55] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. So connecting people a connector. No, but before that, 

[00:04:57] Jesper Conrad: what do you call the word? You [00:05:00] are a. 

[00:05:01] Amrit Sandhu: Um, as in myself, I, I said, my medicine is so your medicine. That's why, why, why? You said, yeah, my medicine. So I think actually, you know, and you know, you read it off the bio, like everybody, I believe everybody has medicine in them.

[00:05:14] Amrit Sandhu: Everybody has a gift in them. Everybody has a strength, um, that they're put here for, you know. Um, and oftentimes I think we walk around sort of in the shadow of. Yeah. Like, I don't wanna say it this way, but oftentimes, and I don't say oftentimes, I'm just gonna pick a number outta the air, but I would say about 80% of the time people are living in the shadow of what society projects on them that they want to be.

[00:05:39] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. Society wants them to be. Um, and that's culturally. Falls by the place you live, the family that brings you up and all that sort of stuff. There's all these layers upon layers upon layers of people with their best, best interest, you know, um, but still sort of navigating you. The, uh, I don't wanna say the wrong way, but not the way that's most aligned to you.[00:06:00] 

[00:06:00] Amrit Sandhu: There's a, one of my favorite quotes is the Ellen Watts saying where he goes, uh. Please let me help you set the monkey scooping the fish outta the river, into the tree. Yeah. Yeah. And uh, I think everybody has their way as you guys have your way, right? Mm-hmm. Like very following your own path. And it's, as you know, it's off the beaten path.

[00:06:19] Amrit Sandhu: It's not the norm. I think we share, um, that perspective on life as well, and potentially some of the influences that sort of. It's hard to find the right languaging around it. It's, it's somewhat insidious. It's somewhat derailing, but it's not that sinister. It's just society needed to find a way in some ways, and these are the ways that it's found, but it makes us more cookie cutter and very, you know, of a uniform sort of taste when really we are all unique expressions and I feel like everybody has a unique thing to provide to life, otherwise we wouldn't be here.

[00:06:53] Amrit Sandhu: There is a reason that you are here. 

[00:06:54] Cecilie Conrad: So we have something a lot in common, but one thing I think about right now is, [00:07:00] so you made 200 podcasts and you, you're, you're like off the, the pa the, what do you call it? Like outside kind of, yeah, yeah. And, and live in a, in a radically different way than what you could call most people.

[00:07:15] Cecilie Conrad: And so do we. Very often when we give our speeches and. At the end. Then sometimes it seems like the distance between the life I live now and the life of the people I talk to has become so big that they kind of give up. It's like, yeah, 

[00:07:37] Jesper Conrad: yeah, 

[00:07:38] Cecilie Conrad: for you, you got out, but I have no way to get out. That's kind of their conclusion, which makes me very sad.

[00:07:44] Cecilie Conrad: So how can we, how do, what do you do to get closer? Or to like make a bridge on that? Yeah, yeah, 

[00:07:51] Amrit Sandhu: absolutely. Absolutely. So coaching is a big part of what I love doing. Um, so this question that you're asking is very ripe in the intimate sort of [00:08:00] setting of coaching one-on-one, um, where you're trying to facilitate transformation.

[00:08:04] Amrit Sandhu: And, uh, actually it's interesting with facilitating transformation because sometimes it's necessary to zoom all the way out and show people how tired the mountaintop is. And then sometimes you've literally gotta get down on your knees and tie their shoe laces for them so that they can take the very next step, right?

[00:08:18] Amrit Sandhu: So the dynamic between the two is the range is huge. Now. The short answer that I would offer into your space would be, um, to your question would be there's, I I just take it from marketing. So at the moment when, you know, this was about a decade ago, they used to say with marketing, in order for someone to buy something from you, let's just get as gluttonous, as as marketing and buying, buying psychology, right?

[00:08:40] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. People needed to buy some, they would needed to connect to the concept or the brand or the energy of it. Four times. Yes. They needed four touch points. Before they would make a buying decision? Either yes, either no. They needed to be exposed to it. Four time. That's how billboards worked. You're driving past it, you didn't even see it, but in your subconscious, it went past.

[00:08:59] Amrit Sandhu: So they know that they've [00:09:00] made an extra touch point. Right. Yeah. So those were the four points, and it was, this is probably outdated information now, but about five odd years ago. I remember this being, one of the facts that I read up on was it's now, it was at that point, 17 touch points. Right now you can sort of, there's a whole bunch of myriad reasons of why that has gone up.

[00:09:17] Amrit Sandhu: Mm-hmm. Probably because we're saturated with media and information. Right. Obviously. Yeah. But nonetheless, it's 17 points. So that's just marketing. Now when you talk about, you know, the lifestyles that you guys live, the different sort of ideologies that I contain and you know, trying to inspire evolution, trying to, you know, literally nomad traveling around the world.

[00:09:35] Amrit Sandhu: Yes. It's different. And yes, there is a bit of an onus on us to, you know. Try to share our with others so that it can impact others. But the reality is I rest in the knowing that if I can do it for me. Yeah. One of my favorite quotes is this Maryanne Williamson quote, where she goes, once we liberate ourself from our fears, we unconsciously liberate others.

[00:09:55] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. So if I can live my best life, if I can go away and do [00:10:00] the things that I am limited by and believe that, you know, I'm limitless and try and actualize some of those things, which really bring me the greatest joy, but it's just my fears standing in the way. Yeah. If I can work through that stuff and get out on the other side and be like, Hey, I can do it.

[00:10:14] Amrit Sandhu: You can do it too. And I may share my story, and in that audience, one person may be hearing such a story for the first time. Another person may be hearing it for the 17th time, and that might be the exact time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That they tumble over and transform. Someone's hearing it for the fourth time.

[00:10:30] Amrit Sandhu: Someone's hearing it for the sixth, not sixth time. So resting in the knowing that the ripple effect is occurring. And that each person is on their journey and they're coming along and that they're gonna transform in their right time as well, and that you are still contributing to their transformation.

[00:10:46] Amrit Sandhu: Right? But it may not look like from the outside what you want it to look like right here and right now. But trusting in that the universe has its ways with such things, 

[00:10:55] Cecilie Conrad: I personally trust exactly the same. And I've said for years, the best thing we [00:11:00] can do is. We do it and we do what we believe is right, and it's very, very different.

[00:11:05] Cecilie Conrad: Before we started traveling, we also like didn't put the kids to school and did weird stuff like that. And I truly believe it that you impact a lot of people just by not even doing the podcast, not even sharing the story, just doing it because there's someone doing it and, and, and you, you see it on the bus kind of.

[00:11:25] Cecilie Conrad: Mm-hmm. So yes, ripple effect, but I'm still interested. How you react to this question when it comes like, or this people saying, yeah, but for me it's impossible. I hear that a lot and I, I suppose maybe you hear too, so you share your story or you share. Yes, you can, you can get rid of, of the limitations.

[00:11:53] Cecilie Conrad: You can get closer to who you really are. You can. You can start living a better life, a freer life, more [00:12:00] conscious life. And then the response to me often is, you can do it Cecilia, but I, I can't, I'm, I'm too stretched by things or constrained by economy or whatever, health issues or. So do you meet that question or is it just my, I meet 

[00:12:20] Amrit Sandhu: that question.

[00:12:21] Amrit Sandhu: It seems less than you do because obviously I have the ecosystem of the inspired evolution and the people that tune in have tuned into the podcast and followed along for a certain amount of the journey and like are ready to transform. By the time they're reach out to me to go, Hey, like, I'm ready. Yeah.

[00:12:35] Amrit Sandhu: Obviously. Yeah. Are we ready to go? I'm like, yes, we're ready to go. Let's go. So it's almost like that question is interfaced. By the person that is tuning into the podcast for the first time. Yeah. And that almost does the sort of, hey, like, you know, warming them up to like, Hey, you can transform. Hey you can transform.

[00:12:53] Amrit Sandhu: Hey, you can transform. It probably does all that heavy lifting for me, which I do. Like, I do recall, [00:13:00] you know, and I still go, like still deliver seminars and there are people that are less inclined to change than others. Um, but it's also, you know, this was one of the things that I had to learn early on, especially.

[00:13:12] Amrit Sandhu: You know, being in transformation and personal development is that everybody's got their own timing. Everybody's got their divine timing. And this comes back to what you like, you know, your, your question in terms of if someone comes up to me and goes, Hey, like it's all well and good for you to do this, but this is, there is no way in hell that I could, you know, be a coach or be a speaker or be a this or be a that.

[00:13:35] Amrit Sandhu: My honest truth is you're probably not. You're probably not a coach. You're probably not a speaker. You're probably not an author. My 

[00:13:41] Cecilie Conrad: honest truth is it's mindset, period. If you say it's impossible, it's impossible. You're right. You'll be right no matter what. Impossible. Then you are right. It's just, I absolutely disagree.

[00:13:55] Cecilie Conrad: You know, I disagree with impossible personally. 

[00:13:58] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. But [00:14:00] also when we drill deeper, what I generally, uh, like the first place we sort of start on a journey with myself is we get really clear on your values. Yeah. Yeah. I find values really helpful because what happens is it's kind of where the 3D meet meets the spiritual, but it's also, it's, it doesn't come across that esoteric when it's like, what are your values?

[00:14:19] Amrit Sandhu: Organizations have values, people have values. What value do you bring me? How can I exchange, like value is a very 3D term, but it is actually quite, um, a spiritual concept when you, when the way I look at it anyway. Um, so then when we start looking at our values, my values, yeah. My highest values are connection.

[00:14:36] Amrit Sandhu: I. Contribution and celebration. Yeah. These are my three highest values. Mm-hmm. Now that I like, there's a whole bunch of others in there, but those are my three highest values. So when I start looking at connection, contribution, celebration, let's have a look at what podcasting does. Podcasting, I connect with people all over the world, such as yourself, and I'm connecting to an audience.

[00:14:54] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. So I get to connect. On steroids. Yeah. Contribute. It's helping others, people, others, [00:15:00] grow, evolve. It's inspiring some people to start their own podcast, so there's a massive contribution there. Yeah. Mm-hmm. It's doing its own thing. Then there's celebration. Hopefully people are living life more fully, more richly, you know, and they're celebrating their life even better.

[00:15:12] Amrit Sandhu: More like even more vibrant, right? Because they've tuned into this podcast. So podcasting. My three highest values, tick. Coaching. I'm connecting to people really deeply. Yeah. Like in a really intimate setting. Right. They're telling me stuff. They don't even tell their wives or their parents stuff or their children stuff.

[00:15:28] Amrit Sandhu: They've always wanted to get off their chest. Right. So that's connection, contribution. That space is affording them a lot. Yeah. And they're celebration. They're living life free because of it. Yeah. Public speaking, connecting to audiences, contributing with the content, celebrating life. So those are my values.

[00:15:45] Amrit Sandhu: So absolutely when you look at podcasting, when you look at this conversation, you're like, Emirates, you know, touch wood. Hopefully you guys think I'm reasonably good at this. I've worked, like you said a lot on myself to try and come here, but those are my values and I've warded those values and I've gone, yep, these are my values [00:16:00] and I'm going to continue to double down on my strengths, right?

[00:16:02] Amrit Sandhu: Yep. Mm-hmm. And walk that path. Now your values are probably adventure. Right? Like one of your massive values between the pair of views is probably gonna be adventure. Yeah. Now, so if I turn around, like I could turn around to you and say, Hey, like what you guys do, is nomads traveling around the world? I can't do and I probably can't.

[00:16:19] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah, because I'm probably risk averse. Now that doesn't mean that I should be able to do it. No, my values are different. Yeah. But if I get clear on my values, what I can say is that everybody has a divine right to follow through on exactly who they are and your values. I. Ah. And you know, part of me, I'm Indian, so it sounds a bit loaded when I say this, but the values are the temp, like the pillars of the temple.

[00:16:43] Amrit Sandhu: That is you. Yeah. And you can live by your values. You don't have to have a temple that has broken pillars, that's tumbled the ceilings on the floor. Yeah. You can erect your values and erect your temple and live your life with the energy just flowing through freely. [00:17:00] Yeah. That is the dream. Living in alignment.

[00:17:03] Amrit Sandhu: Really what your soul's purpose is here and now, and your values really help you discern that. So you know in when people say, oh, I can't do what you do, and it's like maybe you're not meant to. Yeah. But your thing is a thing. You have your own medicine, you have your own reason for being here. You have your own calling.

[00:17:19] Amrit Sandhu: That much is certain within me. Yeah. And the reason I'm that bloody certain about it is there was a moment in my life when I struggled for depression for six years. And I don't wish it upon my worst enemy. Yeah. No. It's a long time during and during the recovery period, there was someone touch wood. Yeah.

[00:17:40] Amrit Sandhu: Who believed in me when I couldn't even believe in myself. I wasn't necessarily suicidal, but I was apathetic. I was completely apathetic. Whether I was here, whether I wasn't here, didn't matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Completely numb on that recovery journey. Mm-hmm. And there was a person. In my life that saw [00:18:00] me and said, I believe in you.

[00:18:02] Amrit Sandhu: I see you. You are worth it. Keep going. That just when you don't believe in yourself and someone does, and it actually pulls you through to the other side, what that does for you. I cannot give you words except that I have dedicated my life to coaching because I believe in the power of others, because I know how much of a gift it is because it transformed me.

[00:18:25] Amrit Sandhu: And so I believe everybody has something. Everybody has medicine. Even that challenging time, the med, the six years of depression brought me to meditation, which completely changed my awareness, the way I navigate life. It was totally a cocooning experience in which the butterfly spread its wings.

[00:18:40] Amrit Sandhu: Obviously, you can only see that with hindsight when you're going through your challenges. It's very, I was gonna swear. It is very hard to see it that way. Yeah. But with hindsight, you start to realize.

[00:18:53] Jesper Conrad: You answered. Some of you said in your podcast, uh, course, um, prepare some question and you actually throw them out. [00:19:00] I haven't reached that point yet. I skipped them. I was like, ah, he answered that. He answered that. He answered that. But one thing I would like to go a little deeper with is the, the start of your podcast.

[00:19:11] Jesper Conrad: You talked a little about it when we, after our dialogue last. You started in your living room, just inviting people, connecting people, and had some talks. Can you tell a little about that? Because I'm like, from Denmark, people like to drink a lot when they're together and there, the conversation seems to, you know, go, go outside the realm and not so.

[00:19:35] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. Thank you so much for, for, 

[00:19:38] Cecilie Conrad: I, I have like, intellectual conversations over expensive wine with my friends. 

[00:19:43] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. But I didn't, it must be a difference between what they put in wine and what they put in beer. Just, but

[00:19:55] Jesper Conrad: it beed.

[00:19:59] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. [00:20:00] So, um, for me, the, um. The, yeah. Thank you so much for remembering. So the, um, the inspired evolution journey is, you know, it's been a long journey actually, but in some ways I can't believe it's only like, it's, it's been like this, it's almost like parenting in some ways. It's pretty trippy, but, um, how many the years 

[00:20:17] Jesper Conrad: I've gone now, oh, five years of the inspired evolution now.

[00:20:21] Jesper Conrad: Five years. 

[00:20:21] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah, five years. Which, you know. The things that have already happened are like beyond my wildest dreams. Um, yeah, I definitely had a plan, but then also I know I give myself 10 years to sort of see where this is actually going. I'm, I've sort of wisely, I don't know where this dropped in.

[00:20:37] Amrit Sandhu: Initially when I started, I was like, I'm not gonna measure performance for 10 years. I'm just gonna commit myself and sort of see what happens. Um, because a lot of podcasts fall off. Um, and a lot of people actually that you speak to that are famous podcasts now, you ask them, it's like, what is your recipe for podcasting success?

[00:20:54] Amrit Sandhu: And. Every single person I've asked has said the exact same thing, which [00:21:00] is like kind of like, whoa. But it's a hundred percent of the time. The response I've gotten is I didn't quit or something to that effect. I kept going and it's literally just that. It's like when you look at the number of podcasts that are out there recently we got this award is in spite of evolution, top 2% of podcasts in the world.

[00:21:18] Amrit Sandhu: And my wife was like, this is amazing. And I was like. I'm not sure. She's like, why? And I was like, because a lot of people start and don't finish and they're in that a hundred percent, you know, so that's like 50% of podcasts probably. So really? You know, but obviously I'm being self-deprecating, but a lot of people don't, like, don't keep going.

[00:21:39] Amrit Sandhu: And there's a recipe for success in there with podcasts. So. I realize I've digressed. Coming back to the answering your question was, um, yeah, so we started with, it was an interesting time, actually, I'll give you the full story. So my wife, um, she's a dentist and she had this moment in her life where she, I.

[00:21:57] Amrit Sandhu: They kind of say at the ages between 27 and [00:22:00] 30, you have what they call a satins return for those that are into astrology. Um, for those that aren't into astrology, basically it's a time where, and I, I'm definitely not an expert in this year, guys, so just bear with me, but satin apparently in your astrological chart is back where it started when you were born.

[00:22:15] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. And it happens again when you are between 54 and 60, which is when we're known to have a midlife crisis. Right? So you kind of have this quarter life crisis. At 27 30? Yeah, roughly speaking now. Satin is responsible for purpose, is what they say Astrologically. It drives the chariot, which pulls the sun and the sun of your life.

[00:22:35] Amrit Sandhu: The light of your life is the reason and the purpose that you are here. So potentially that was what was going on. It seems to fit the narrative. My wife had this existential crisis going, there's gotta be more to my life than filling holes in people's teeth. Like there just has to be, you know, uh, gonna work.

[00:22:50] Amrit Sandhu: Waking up, filling all people's teeth and going back home, going bed, waking up, doing the same thing. So she went on basically what we could now call a sabbatical. Back then, she just basically left and was, we didn't [00:23:00] really have the linguistics of like, or the word sabbatical in our mind. She was just, I'm leaving and so she left for, we didn't know it was an indefinite amount of time.

[00:23:09] Amrit Sandhu: We thought it was gonna be rough for, it ended up being about 10 months in that time. We went traveling for the first six weeks together and then she set sail on her sabbatical. I came home and I just, you know, continued to work. Now I. It was the first time that I sort of worked. Like lived on my own with our dog and you know, she was away traveling and it was very lonely.

[00:23:31] Amrit Sandhu: It was a winter, you know, winters are good for cuddles and there was none of that. Um, so it was a, it was a hard time to say the least. Um, and then also work was really, really intense. And often, as you'll know between you two. Oftentimes when one part of the partnership is going through something, it's often that energetically you guys are connected, that the other part is going through something as well.

[00:23:49] Amrit Sandhu: Right. Like we we know that. Yeah, I know, right? And so, and it's, it's interesting like the quantum behind all of that. They're starting to research. Some of that stuff is really like [00:24:00] trippy, but with it, another conversation. Interesting. We'll totally digress even into rabbit holes we won't return from, but nonetheless.

[00:24:06] Amrit Sandhu: So she's away and I'm starting to have this existential crisis as well. Yeah. Which is like, 'cause I'm the same age and the same experience and we're connected and I'm like, there's gotta be more to just, and I literally felt like if you guys have seen the movie, the Matrix, it's one of my favorite movies.

[00:24:20] Amrit Sandhu: Um, I started feeling like a human battery cell that is, I'm running the corporate machine, basically. Yeah. And I was like, there's got to be more to life than this. Like, there's just. You know, this is really rubbing me up the wrong way and I was giving myself to it daily, daily, daily. And in there was a moment before I left my wife for her to go on a sabbatical and we went six weeks traveling.

[00:24:43] Amrit Sandhu: We were sitting in Guatemala, um, in San Marcos on this really beautiful jetty, and there was this really beautiful place. I saw more shooting stars this one night than I had seen in my whole life put together. It was one of those moments, and it was New Year's Eve. It was just like you. [00:25:00] And I, I've never really set a New Year's resolution 'cause I thought it was always a bit cheesy.

[00:25:03] Amrit Sandhu: Like I've always been into personal development. I was like, genius resolution. Like, that's fairly, you know, the, the, those that play in the kiddie pool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was kind of my egotistical spiritual judgment. Um, so I never really set, uh, a goal, but this year I had the intention. I set an intention, this, this voice, just do more of what you love.

[00:25:21] Amrit Sandhu: And that's all it said to me. I was like, do more of what you love. So I was like, okay. And I came back and I was, you know, in this grind working through all of this, you know, existential angst almost of like being in this corporate machine. And, and there was this, do more of what you love. And one of the things I had, I.

[00:25:39] Amrit Sandhu: Managed to do when I was in Guatemala also was I, I quit alcohol and it was really interesting coming home to not have alcohol and also have this intention of do more of what you love. And I remember I was sitting opposite a computer screen in my living room and I. It used to be that, you know, the dining table and the computer used to be my setup.

[00:25:59] Amrit Sandhu: I was always [00:26:00] working on my business. It was like my, you know, happy place. And my wife would be sitting on the couch, you know, doing her thing. And I remember watching this Tony Robbins video, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and going, oh, like breakthrough. And then I had that moment of aha and I turned to her to say, oh my God, I just realized.

[00:26:17] Amrit Sandhu: And then I realized she wasn't there. Yeah. And the, the, the, the emptiness inside was like. Oh man. But again, how everything sort of cascades in that moment. I had this sort of, what we now call in my community here, a mandala moment. This sort of cascading of clink cl, cl cl, cl clink, cl clink, like when the safe, like all the ratchets sort of clicking and safe door opens.

[00:26:42] Amrit Sandhu: The epiphany, the insight, it happened everything. We were traveling in Mexico. I saw this club called Mandala, which was an amazing name and I thought it was sacrilegious to call it club that, because mandala is a very sacred word and I'm not sure if. Sacred stuff happens in clubs, from my experience anyway.

[00:26:56] Amrit Sandhu: Um, the other idea of like, we are the average, [00:27:00] we're the average of five people we spend our time with. Um, I had given up alcohol and Friday night drinks was my favorite thing to do. I had one idea when I first moved to Melbourne that I was gonna do like Friday night cocktails at my house at some point, which never actually happened.

[00:27:14] Amrit Sandhu: So all this stuff started to drop in and it was just like, oh. You have three hours. Create a Facebook group called Mandala Moments. Yeah. And invite people over to your house every week. And it was like, nah. Every fortnight. Mm, once a month. Okay. Every fortnight. Okay. Every fortnight. And what are you gonna do?

[00:27:33] Amrit Sandhu: We are basically gonna watch Tony Robbins videos and have aha moments together. I've always wanted to do this right? Um, watch Ted Talks, watch Mindvalley talks, watch, you know, any of this sort of content that's inspiring and then we can unpack it together as a community. And it was became Chai Chats and Community.

[00:27:50] Amrit Sandhu: I brew chai in to sub lace. To replace and supplement alcohol instead of, no, no, no longer out, like no longer drinking. So it was an alcoholic free thing that I was doing every fortnight [00:28:00] and. It just created the event and I invited, and this was the other big piece. I invited the five people in my community that were inspiring to me.

[00:28:09] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. So I invited people that, because on the average of the five people I spend my time with, I knew at work that I wasn't gonna be that person. Right. Like my work was very challenging. Yeah. In terms of the people that I was around. But I knew that in my downtime, even then, I wasn't consciously spending my time.

[00:28:24] Amrit Sandhu: I was just getting hammered. Yeah, so then it was like, okay, let's try and find speakers, authors. My yoga teacher was one of the first people, like these people that really inspired me to be a more spiritual, better human. So I invited these people and lo and behold, they started rocking up. First week, there was two of them next week, next fortnight, there was one of them.

[00:28:42] Amrit Sandhu: The fortnight after five people showed up, and then the word started getting around and people started showing up to my living room to the point where regularly there was 20 to 25 people in my living room. And we would, you know. Discuss Carl Young's archetypes. Yeah, and then we'd go around the room and call out the archetypes we saw in each other, you know?

[00:28:59] Amrit Sandhu: Then we'd [00:29:00] discuss dreams, you know, then we'd talk about vulnerability. We'd talk about, you know, all sorts of like career stuff, relationship stuff, like family stuff. You know, you name it. And we started unpacking it together as a community. And there, there was this voice in the community, which was like, Hey, like, hey, you should record these chats.

[00:29:20] Amrit Sandhu: They're invaluable. Yeah. And my response to them was, they're invaluable. Yes. Because there's no fucking microphone. Yeah, 

[00:29:28] Jesper Conrad: yeah, 

[00:29:29] Amrit Sandhu: yeah. Because it's a sacred container. It's a sacred space. We are sharing from this like really safe space amongst each other. There's trust. The minute you put a microphone in it, it leaks that trust.

[00:29:40] Amrit Sandhu: And so it's like, I can't do it. And so they kept pushing. I kept saying no, and then eventually they were like, you seriously have to do this. And then a mentor appeared out of nowhere and basically said, Hey, like, and it was, uh, London re, Brian Rose, and he said, I'm right about to launch a launch your podcast program, which he charges I think about 10,000 US dollars for.

[00:29:59] Amrit Sandhu: It [00:30:00] was insane. And he said, uh, launch, like, you know, broadcast yourself is what he called it. Um, which is not to just similar to launch your podcast, right? So broadcast yourself and. My friends were like, do a podcast. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. I could see myself as this sandwich. That was just this pure resistance.

[00:30:15] Amrit Sandhu: I was like, no, I've tuned into podcasts and I wanna do that. And I remember waking up at 3:00 AM and going, just do it. Yeah. I woke up in the middle of night with no idea, like why I'd waking up and it was just like, just do it. And I was like, dude, you don't have $10,000 just to spend on like some course you know, which you don't even know if you wanna do.

[00:30:35] Amrit Sandhu: And it's like, listen, all your friends are saying doing it. This person is saying they want you to do it. You respect this person. And that person has subsequently, London Rules has been on it, some very interesting journey since then. So pardon them for that or whatever they're up to. But he started off, but my friends were saying it.

[00:30:49] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah, it sounded out amazing, you know, and so, and then I was like, I'm just resisting, so if I just get outta my own way, which you hear people say, this is personal development, and then the two could just click together. So I gave myself permission to [00:31:00] get outta my way, invested a lot of money, and boom, it clicked in together.

[00:31:02] Amrit Sandhu: I. The rest became history and the podcast began. So that's the origins of the podcast, the con conversations we were having in my living room and the community that inspired me. And it started off with me just wanting to interview those people that were in my living room. Now it's just blown out to sort of interviewing people from all over the world, which is beyond my wildest imaginations.

[00:31:23] Jesper Conrad: I, I got both goosebump and a little tear. So very moving. 

[00:31:30] Amrit Sandhu: Thank you for asking. 

[00:31:31] Jesper Conrad: No, yeah. But about those, all those people, more than 200, I, I tried to count and I was like, ah, I cannot, but 

[00:31:41] Cecilie Conrad: you can't count. No, 

[00:31:42] Jesper Conrad: no, no, no. But, uh, it.

[00:31:50] Jesper Conrad: I was thinking what, it must also have been a long personal development journey. You meet some people, you talk with them, they, [00:32:00] they, um, they are transformational leaders, a lot of them. The people you interview. Mm-hmm. And so. Can you mention some of them or some of the things that you still Oh, this one, I've taken that into my life.

[00:32:14] Jesper Conrad: Um, 

[00:32:15] Amrit Sandhu: mm Yeah, there's, there's quite a few responses to that question, of course. Um, and I get off this, I get asked this question in different ways. Um, the, the way you've asked this question, yes, I can answer it. So, one of the biggest takeaways for me has been the Maryanne Williamson podcast episode, which happened about 12 months ago, and she was running for politics and she had just bowed out of the uni, uh, USA, um, candidature for, um, running for office.

[00:32:46] Amrit Sandhu: And she wrote a Return to Love, which was a sort of dissertation on a course in Miracle. She's an like an amazing, amazing spiritual leader, but full of Yang. Yeah, [00:33:00] not like stuck in Yin. So she's incredible. And one of the things that I took away from her podcast with conversation was, and I'm butchering the living daylights out of it, which is unfortunate, but she basically went to the effect of saying power.

[00:33:17] Amrit Sandhu: Is corrupt and love without power. Is anemic. And for some reason I really needed to hear that. Like that was huge for me because there was always this, you know, my whole journey is spiritual entrepreneurship, spiritual entrepreneurship, spiritual entrepreneurship, but this sort of reclaiming of power.

[00:33:43] Amrit Sandhu: Power just had this, I had this connotations around greed and ego that were in power, and yeah, she reminded me that that. Isn't necessarily power. Yeah. Like power is this very pure sort of force that [00:34:00] is just a very beautiful masculine force that is available to us to harness accomplishment of things. Um, and it's, and that reconciliation was huge for me.

[00:34:09] Amrit Sandhu: Um. Yeah, left a very profound impact. And so what that meant for me was to double down on all the things that I'm doing because it was very, you know, the inspired evolution has this soft, rainbow colored energy. It's, you know, it's like, hey, like in spite evolution, like we're gonna get there. Don't stress, you know, but she invited this, not stress, but it's like, we're gonna get there.

[00:34:33] Amrit Sandhu: You ready? Mm-hmm. You know, this different sort of like uhhuh and it's already happened. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. And it's this real, and it was a real, um, it was very, it was medicinal for me to receive that. Now, one of the other questions in line with what, um, I get is like, on a personal level, like what have you learned in terms of your own organization running a, like, running a podcast for five years and all this sort of stuff, um, you know, what, what has, [00:35:00] what has been one of the biggest takeaways for you?

[00:35:02] Amrit Sandhu: And the recurring lesson again and again, the big takeaway that having interviewed 250, you know, 240, 250 stories now, um, is that people are ins like these people are all inspiring other people's evolution. What I've learned is that it our biggest challenges, yeah, our biggest gifts. Yeah. So I know that when I podcasted you guys and you guys set sail and started traveling around the world, we spent a lot of time in our podcast talking about what were some of the challenges that were the linchpin to you going, you know what, finally fuck this.

[00:35:43] Amrit Sandhu: I'm out, you know, fight on the French, it's not French, but do you know what I mean? Like, pardon my, almost friends. Pardon my language. And it's like. That story is again and again, my challenges, six years of depression brought me to meditation. Now it's something I heal, like I, I don't wanna say healed the world with it, but like it's, it's [00:36:00] something that has healed me, that I offer the world.

[00:36:02] Amrit Sandhu: That's probably the right way to put it. Right? Meditation is something completely changed my life then Career misalignment. Yeah. I spent. Like more than a decade doing that. Yeah. And the friction of that was painful. Yeah. But then that birthed the inspired evolution, right? Yeah. And that became my gift to the world.

[00:36:20] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. So your biggest challenges equal your biggest gifts? Yeah. We'd look and look at any like great leaders. They've like really struggled and they've walked through that dark night of the soul and they've come back with this sword from the hero's journey, having slayed the dragon and gone boom. This is the sword.

[00:36:37] Amrit Sandhu: What can I do for you? Society with this sort. And they learn to serve others with it, right? And that has brought them to greatness. So that has been a massive lesson for me, which I has been in some, like the value of that, you know, as a young man in his thirties, to know that any challenge I'm facing. Is a blessing in disguise.

[00:36:58] Amrit Sandhu: You know, what that does for you and [00:37:00] your resilience is, you know, I, I can't even put that into words. It's been phenomenal. And then on a mundane level, like another lesson that I've learned is the power of consistency. We talked about this a little bit earlier, not giving up. Yeah. Producing a podcast for five years, every week.

[00:37:15] Amrit Sandhu: It's probably one of the most, yeah. It's honestly outside of my relationship with my wife. Like, which is a conscious relationship that I chose. This podcast is something that I have been consistent with the longest, you know? Um, like my friends, I'll see sporadically, even my family, I'll see sporadically my wife I see all the time.

[00:37:35] Amrit Sandhu: This podcast I see every week. Yeah. So it's outside of that consistency builds. What is this thing that no one I find talking about is momentum? Consistency. You build momentum and momentum with the laws. You know, it's, it's the laws of physics, something that's moving. It takes just as much energy to stop it.

[00:37:56] Amrit Sandhu: So if it's moving, the universe doesn't want it to stop. It wants it to keep moving, and it just [00:38:00] keeps moving and moving and moving and moving and moving. Yet it took ages for it to get off the ground, but once it did, now it can't be stopped.

[00:38:09] Cecilie Conrad: I had a question. I have to remember it now. Yeah. Now I was thinking about this, um, how our greatest challenges become our greatest learning motors or, uh, driving energies coming out with the sword. Um,

[00:38:33] Cecilie Conrad: we also have the concept post-traumatic growth. Mm-hmm. Like reverse to the, the post-traumatic stress. And I was just thinking about those who don't like, so I have the mindset if there is a challenge, I'm learning something and I'll come out stronger. Um, we have a saying, I'm always happy if I'm not happy, I'm happy.

[00:38:59] Cecilie Conrad: I'm learning [00:39:00] something that will make me happier. So, so. When you have this mindset, the challenging, challenging moments or elements, they are easier, not easy because then would be challenges, but some people to me, seems. To not get this to kind of drown and I would like to, um, 

[00:39:25] Jesper Conrad: help them. 

[00:39:26] Cecilie Conrad: Yeah. That's what I do.

[00:39:27] Cecilie Conrad: I'm a psychologist and a coach as well, but I'm interested as I'm speaking to a colleague. What kind of life where like, what is it called? Like these things you throw? Um, life 

[00:39:39] Jesper Conrad: belts. Learning. Yeah, life belts. 

[00:39:41] Cecilie Conrad: Life belts. Do you send out throughout, for people who don't really believe this yet. 

[00:39:49] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. And once again, like it's a, it's a great question.

[00:39:52] Amrit Sandhu: So once again, I rest in because I, I've actually got those people in my life. Like those are some of the closest people in my life. Um, [00:40:00] yeah. To the point where one may even argue that a whole. Impetus for me to be the individual that I am looking to consistently grow is because there are people around me that potentially need to grow.

[00:40:14] Amrit Sandhu: And this sounds like a judgment, but, uh, refuse to. Now, one of the things in there is, and this has happened, right? Like you continue to change and grow, can change and grow and change and grow, and it may not happen overnight, but five years later, someone turns around and goes, are you. Oh, like, oh, you've changed.

[00:40:34] Amrit Sandhu: And it's like, yeah, I chose not to be that way. And then you see them sort of go, it was a choice. Like, yeah, this is a, this is, this is a choice, you know? And you can see them short circuit, you know, because it's like their brain. But it took five years of me working on myself in some instances for that person to have that penny drop moment now.[00:41:00] 

[00:41:00] Amrit Sandhu: If I was trying to hand that personal life, but I don't have five years worth of patience. I'm gonna be straight up with you, sister. Like, I don't have five years worth of patience. Not with other people. Like I'm part of the millennial generation. We, we don't have five years worth of patience. But I, again, rest in the knowing that, as you know, I continue to evolve and change that the ripple will happen.

[00:41:21] Amrit Sandhu: In some space. Way, shape, shape or form. Yeah. Now, the other part that is huge for me is as a coach, having to learn to realize that everybody's got coping mechanisms. Yeah, because we're dancing between order and chaos at any given time, and there is like, there is a great deal of chaos. Life is like a mystery.

[00:41:44] Amrit Sandhu: Mystery. Yeah. Like the fact that I am here having this conversation with you two. Like if you start to pick at the thread of chaos, you can start very quickly coming apart at the seams. Yeah. Like what the. Is going on. Like what is this thing that is called [00:42:00] life? Yeah. Like and where do we go after here and how did we get here and who are we connected to and what are we doing?

[00:42:06] Amrit Sandhu: We're having conversations What? Like it's super trippy and yet that is completely balanced by order. Yeah. Our psychology, our minds navigate the world with patterns, recognition of those patterns and order. So we get this order that helps support us navigate in this chaos, this 3D reality. Yeah, which is an amazing gift of consciousness.

[00:42:28] Amrit Sandhu: Now we are supported by our coping mechanisms. Yeah, and many of them end up outdated and we don't put them in the recycle bin and hit trash. Yeah. And we continue to carry them around. But I know even now as I'm speaking to you, I run the risk of sounding enlightened when I have plenty of outdated limiting belief systems myself that I'm actively working on trying to trash.

[00:42:54] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not, it's 

[00:42:55] Cecilie Conrad: not a walk in the park necessarily. 

[00:42:57] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. And so when, when I see someone else [00:43:00] that's not willing, that is basically, that is basically like not willing to take on one of my like. I guess expanded thought concepts. I understand that they're, what I perceive as limited is not limited for them.

[00:43:12] Amrit Sandhu: At some part, for them, that was the best coping mechanism that they could find, and they dropped into that and it still continues to serve them to some degree, which is why they continue to stay in that loop. Yeah. Now, unfortunately. Fortunately to some point, there's gonna be a point where they're gonna, their biggest challenge is gonna be their biggest gift.

[00:43:34] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. So they're gonna hit a challenge and then hopefully they'll evolve out of it. Now, it's hard to sort of say that out loud in public because it's like, shit, you are wishing people challenges. And it's like, well. That's transformation, right? Like you grow that way. Now some people won't. I circling back to your questions, like some people meet those challenges and they just fall into the pity parade and they just fall into the victim mindset and they're still the victim of life.

[00:43:59] Amrit Sandhu: [00:44:00] Mm-hmm. That helped them early on. Right. That helped them early on. Yeah. At some point and continue to live in that model. And that still continues to serve them in some way. Right. And sometimes that's hard to acknowledge because sometimes it's not even that person's fault. Like I know what this sounds like.

[00:44:15] Amrit Sandhu: Everybody's empowered for their own choices, but it may not even be that person's fault when that person goes into their little, I don't, there's a better way of putting this, pardon me. It sounds insensitive when I say this, but pity party, if they go into their pity party or their victimhood is probably the right way to put it, right?

[00:44:28] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. If they go into their victim state, yeah. Other people respond to them and they go, Hey, what's wrong? Hey, are you okay? And it's normal because we're human, we're compassionate. But that continues to enforce that person's person's behavior, right? Because that person is looking for connection and that's how they find connection.

[00:44:47] Amrit Sandhu: So it's still serving them. So how can we disrupt that, right, without disrupting the entire. 

[00:44:52] Jesper Conrad: Fundamental. 

[00:44:54] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. The things that are circling around that nucleus, right. The electrons and the protons and all of that, right? Like, it's like it's all [00:45:00] that the Yeah. You know, so there's, there's that, there's that process.

[00:45:03] Amrit Sandhu: So yeah, I, I rest in knowing that it's like, you know, that age old saying, which was kind of like, I, I was smart so I tried to change the world, but now I'm wise and I just try to change me. And so that is kind of what I rest in and just trusting that me doing that. Is hopefully, you know, having an impact in the world in some way, but I I, I trusting that the impact that it has on me is more than enough.

[00:45:28] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. Because that then ripples out in other places. And I'll give you a practical example of that. I. Like recently, um, I've, I've been coaching for quite some time now, and for about six weeks, just prior to now, I've been through some really, like, some real challenges and they weren't necessarily me, but they were in my community here in Melbourne and I just checked out.

[00:45:51] Amrit Sandhu: Like I, you know, I was just like, Hey, like, I'm sorry guys, but. I can't, you know, I can't do this. And it was [00:46:00] hard for the ego because you are the coach. You're meant to be the one that helps people stay aligned. And you are kind of off the rails for a minute here. And I didn't know when I was coming back on the rails.

[00:46:08] Amrit Sandhu: Now I'm back on the rails. I'm all good. Right? But I didn't know when I was coming back on the rails and I checked out, I. And now I've checked back in and I'm subsequently catching up with all my clients and they're like, I'm so glad you took that time off. And I was like, oh, you don't enjoy coaching?

[00:46:25] Amrit Sandhu: And they're like, no, because actually there are places in my life where things have happened and I've needed to step back, but I don't because. I continue to have to put the log on the fire and you consciously taking a step back knowing that everything was, you know, gonna suffer because of it. From your mind's perspective, like your business wise, but yet you still chose to prioritize yourself and your own wellbeing.

[00:46:51] Amrit Sandhu: I. That spoke volumes to me as your coaching client. And I was like, oh shit. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much for that reflection. And that wasn't [00:47:00] one person, there was, there was three people that said that back to me. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, wow. You know, we're having that ripple effect and we don't even know that we're doing it.

[00:47:09] Amrit Sandhu: Right. We're just be like we, I'm just looking after myself. I'm just trying to look after myself. Yeah. But it's having that impact. Touch wood. 

[00:47:17] Jesper Conrad: I, I have a question about, uh, ego, uh, because I feel it sometimes myself, you know? Oh, you do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sitting here in a black boy shirt, like, Hey, look at me.

[00:47:28] Jesper Conrad: But, but, but yeah. I'm starting to, I'm turning 48 this year. I'm starting to just accept to who I am in some ways, but part of me can be a little like, oh. Uh, telling about our lives, starting a podcast, uh, will it nurture too much? That ego part where, oh, I'm doing it because I want people to like me, uh, that, that the little child inside of me, or how do you work with that?

[00:47:56] Jesper Conrad: Or is that a problem for you? I don't know. 

[00:47:58] Amrit Sandhu: Absolutely. It's a huge one. [00:48:00] Yeah. It's a, it's a huge one. Um, and I, if I'm honest with you, one of the. Big. I think everybody's here to work on something in this life. One of the big things for me is ego. You know, one of the huge things for me is ego. And so, you know, and I've even, and this is where the power and love was, this huge thing.

[00:48:17] Amrit Sandhu: And, uh, anyway, I'm conscious of the time, but yeah, like, keep even the part of me that keeps pushing for humility, I was like humble. Stay humble. Stay humble, stay humble. Stay humble. Stay humble. Stay humble. Stay humble. Stay humble. Stay humble. 

[00:48:32] Cecilie Conrad: Who the fuck are you? 

[00:48:33] Amrit Sandhu: Stay humble. Oh, you are my ego. Trying to push me into staying humble, trying to come across as humble.

[00:48:40] Amrit Sandhu: Because the reality of the power of life is that life just is. You don't need to be humble, but if you're forcing yourself, which I consistently still do, there's a part of my ego that is going be humble. Oh, you only need to be humble because you're egoic. Yeah, humble egoic. Humble egoic. Yeah. And so. Yeah, there is that [00:49:00] dance.

[00:49:00] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. But to answer your question with the podcast, and I'm gonna, I'm conscious of time, so I'm gonna try and keep this short, but rest in your values, so. Connection, contribution and celebration. There is no ego in that. For me, it is my, it is the, those, that's the celebration of my, my spiritual value. Like that is what my spirit's essence is.

[00:49:19] Amrit Sandhu: It's what I'm here to do. Connect, contribute, celebrate. So as long as I'm doing it, it's gonna feel great. Yes. But it's deeper than an ego. Great. It's, it's. It's cheaper than happiness. It's joy. Yeah. It's a spiritual like Yeah, you, yeah. Like that's, it goes all the way in. Yeah. Yeah. And that's from your soul, not from your head.

[00:49:38] Amrit Sandhu: Now one of the, this is a parable that I learned recently from a gentleman that I had on the podcast, Michael Mead. He's, if you're looking for a great podcast on mysticism, guys, he is my hands down one of the podcasts I listen to most. Michael Mead, uh, living Myth podcast. He was telling a story about.

[00:49:56] Amrit Sandhu: Diving for pearls. So there's some obvious [00:50:00] metaphors here. At the bottom of the darkest place in the ocean, you find this thing that is pure white light. Yeah, it is a pearl. So in your deepest darkness you find light. Yeah. So shadow work and light. He's talking about, he also talks about something that's a bit more modern in terms of the myth.

[00:50:18] Amrit Sandhu: So he talked about how in order to go diving for the pearl, you need two divers. You need one that sort of stays close to the surface and you need one that does the deep diving into the shadows for the pearl and the top one's responsibility is to pull the bottom diver up so he doesn't die. Yeah, because it's a, it's a dangerous expedition and if he spends too much time down there.

[00:50:42] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. He needs to pull him back up. He's his life raft. Right. So the way he describes it is, this is your soul, the deep diver. He dives deep, he experiences life's challenges, comes back with the pearl. That is the gift. Yeah. Like it's, that's the journey. But the ego, which Western [00:51:00] society loves to demonize in many ways has its role as an intermediary, as a filter for this experience between the soul realm and the 3D realm up above, which is where the pearl inevitably.

[00:51:12] Amrit Sandhu: Has to go back to, into the world to provide its value, you know? So there is this relationship with ego, which, you know, it has a mediating role in experience now left unchecked and sort of run rampant. Yeah. It becomes toxic real fast, right? But. It does have a role to play. It's about having a healthy relationship with it.

[00:51:35] Amrit Sandhu: Um, I believe, and I find that metaphor really positive for me because it helps me sort of find my place. It helps me come back to center, kind of going, oh yeah, there's my ego, and it does have a role, you know? Um, because let's be real, like standing up in front of a stage of like thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people.

[00:51:52] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah, it's absolutely challenging because some part of my ego goes, this is epic. Yeah. [00:52:00] Remember what your content is. Yeah, yeah. And can you feel the butterflies? That's because this is really important for them to receive. It's not about you. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll share something with you in the essence of keeping things on point.

[00:52:13] Amrit Sandhu: When I was going to give one of my biggest talks, um, in Europe. Before that there was a gentleman that I podcasted, his name's Murray Kyle, and he's a beautiful musician here in, um, here in Melbourne. And, uh, I haven't actually shared this with anyone before and I'm hoping he finds it okay that I share this, um, touch with.

[00:52:29] Amrit Sandhu: Thank you so much brother. He, um, he basically, I said to him when he creates these concerts. It's like there's a dynamic, like there is no audience in him. It is just one experience and afterwards, people coming up and just thanking him, they are literally like moving stuff in the audience. Like the energy, the healing, like it's profound.

[00:52:49] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. His music is amazing. And I said to him, and I watched him 'cause we've helped host him, and then it was just the most, like it was just. [00:53:00] It wasn't even an effort to be humble, like it was just like, thank you so much. You know, it was just, he was just graceful. So the next morning I was like, you know, I really wanna learn kind of what his thoughts on what The question you asked me is like ego and humility.

[00:53:14] Amrit Sandhu: And I said to him, I was like, Hey brother. Like you know, when all these people are coming up to you and thanking you, how do you navigate this experience? Like, how do you stay humble? And he thought about it and I'll never forget it. Well, he drank his coffee, put it down. We reflected and he goes, you know, actually Amit, the music works best when I am also just an instrument.

[00:53:38] Jesper Conrad: Yeah. 

[00:53:39] Amrit Sandhu: And I was like, okay. And he goes, and yeah. So when people are thanking me, I'm thanking the creator of the music. And where the music comes from and the music. And I'm thanking also in their gratitude that I get to be an instrument, you know? And that I get to be part of this amazing dance and this amazing experience.

[00:53:59] Amrit Sandhu: And [00:54:00] that's been huge for me. You know, when people thank me, I, I. Take that. Thanks. And I also give thanks to Creation for, you know, this amazing opportunity to be alive and to be able to share in such an amazing gift that his life, you know, really is a gift. We, there's, you know, in many ways it's a long journey.

[00:54:17] Amrit Sandhu: In many ways it's a dash. Yeah. And it's a miracle that we are here. So yes, it's 

[00:54:23] Cecilie Conrad: hopefully 

[00:54:24] Amrit Sandhu: that helps 

[00:54:26] Cecilie Conrad: to change the topic completely as, uh. We should land this. Interesting. We could talk like six hours. Yeah. 

[00:54:34] Amrit Sandhu: It's actually, 

[00:54:35] Cecilie Conrad: but I had this idea. 

[00:54:37] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. 

[00:54:38] Cecilie Conrad: How about we commit because we talked about commitment and consistency.

[00:54:43] Cecilie Conrad: Yeah. Which is very interesting. Um, we could commit our episode number something to talk to Amrit again. 

[00:54:52] Jesper Conrad: That could be cool, could 

[00:54:53] Cecilie Conrad: be a good hook for us. And uh, maybe it could be fun for you as well to see where we are. I would love 

[00:54:58] Amrit Sandhu: to 

[00:54:59] Cecilie Conrad: episode [00:55:00] 100 or something like that. Like not, not just down the road in October, but, you know, would that be fun?

[00:55:07] Amrit Sandhu: Oh my God, it would be my honor. Wouldn't that be fun? It would. Let's number episode number 100 again.

[00:55:19] Cecilie Conrad: It's very interesting, but it could be for six hours, as I said, and maybe we should, um, 

[00:55:25] Jesper Conrad: take a long one, one day, just, 

[00:55:26] Cecilie Conrad: uh, land it on, like just 

[00:55:27] Jesper Conrad: go there. 

[00:55:28] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I appreciate it. Good place. That is, if you're, if you're on a weekly cadence that's at about the two year mark, that gives you some perspective.

[00:55:36] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. Yeah. That's a good, that's a good 

[00:55:40] Jesper Conrad: plan. But we might be to Australia beforehand, then we can talk. 

[00:55:44] Amrit Sandhu: Yeah. 

[00:55:45] Jesper Conrad: Podcast. 

[00:55:47] Amrit Sandhu: But the podcast will be there. I, I'm honored. I'll be there. Podcast will 100. 

[00:55:51] Jesper Conrad: It was a big, big pleasure. Am and we will, um, say thanks a lot. And, uh, thank you for being there. [00:56:00] 

[00:56:00] Amrit Sandhu: Oh, guys, and for 

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