Review Review X Yada Yada Podcast / "Bizarro Jerry"

In this BONUS episode, your regular cohost Paul, guests on the "Yada Yada Podcast," with Mr. Eric Driscoll, to discuss one of the all time great Seinfeld entries from the 8th season, "The Bizarro Jerry." Up is down, down is up, in is out, red is purple, dogs and cats...living together...MASS HYSTERIA! Enjoy these boys discussing this wacked out, wild, and backward late in show episode!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Do they know that you have like a lovely, like enviable head of hair?

SPEAKER_02 0:03

I appreciate that. I did not know. Excellent hair. Thank you. It's actually my students really know how to get to my insecurity because it's kind of like my uh it's receding a little bit. So I have students who have known me for a few years and are just like, So what's it like to be balding, Mr. D? And I'm like, Well, you've cut me to my core, so I appreciate that. Well, man, I like this.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

We can reconvene over a coffee when you're at this point in a few years from now, we'll discuss.

SPEAKER_02 0:32

Yeah, well, this is good because I mentioned that to my co-host, and she's just like, What are you talking about? Your hair looks great, you're doing fine, so I need this. This keeps me going.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

So I'm an actor and a podcast host. Hi, my name is Paul. Uh joining Mr. Driscoll here for the The Yada Yada Podcast. The Yada Yada Podcast.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Yeah, I uh guested on your show, which we can talk about before we get into any of our fun stuff because I like to do it. We can do a little bit of banter before we do dig into the Seinfeld because you have a show, review times two, review, review. What do you what's your nomenclature for what do you call your podcast? Like review review?

SPEAKER_01 1:09

The review review podcast. Because you know this, it has to be so specific spelling and things of this nature to be able to find it. We are at review x2 podcast on Instagram and Flashes, but we're a movie review podcast. We have a lovely guest like yourself bring us a film that you abided by all these rules. Not everybody wants to. There's a struggle, but uh it's seven years old or older, two hours and 22 minutes or less, and not part of any major franchise or anything. And by gum, wouldn't you know it? You brought us maximum overdrive.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

I I can still I have like the vocal stims from that conversation still tattooed in my brain. That was such a fun conversation. Just Emilia, like talking about Emilio Esteves and Killer Trucks and Stephen King and Cocaine. It was just all over the place. It was a great chat. So that episode is out. Yeah. What uh what movies have you guys? I was looking on your Instagram, but you want to share some of the movies that you've covered uh over the last few weeks?

SPEAKER_01 2:08

Oh my gosh, I would love to. We just wrapped up our March Madness, which March movie madness, I should say, to avoid any copyright situations. Am I allowed to swear on this, by the way? Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wonderful. Thank you, Mr. Driscoll. I'm gonna ask for permission rather than forgiveness here. But best in show, the Christopher Guest directed film, the cable guy, the Ben Stiller directed film. They came together, the rom-com spoof directed by David Wayne, and we just released a new formatted show. It's uh our episodes are normally about 90 minutes or more. We now we're going to have a new kind of format, a new medium. It's the same medium, uh, where the episodes are like 10 or 15 minutes, and it's myself or yourself or someone going over something that they have on their shelf. Oh, so this is the Aero Video Demolition Man that I'm showing Mr. Driscoll here. And uh I will be doing an episode recording an episode for this fairly soon.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

So off the shelf, that could be like obviously a delightful steel book or Blu-ray, but it could also be a book or a picture of a loved one or a plant. Like it is the the thing to talk about, like the options limitless sort of thing.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

I would where your head is at. Or is it just off the shelf? Yeah, yeah. No, I uh so we have discussed this. It can be video games, books, movies. So it doesn't exclusively have to be movies, just something that you have from your shelf. Yeah, that's media based that you collect. Uh if you, sir, would like to by yourself record some sort of existential episode or like a recollection of a memory of a photo that you have for 10 minutes. I'm interested in editing that. That'll be fun.

SPEAKER_02 4:02

That'll be fun. I'm I'm game, I'm always game for existential. That's amazing. Um, that's a nice segue too, because I like I'm a big movie guy. I do my Mr. Delikes movies on the side, you do a movie podcast. And we started dipping in, we started out as a Seinfeld forward podcast, but me and Selena, we used to have we were we were just talking about books, movies, shows, that kind of thing. So we started doing recommends, so just choosing some content that we've gotten into. So uh I know I'm kind of just throwing this at you off on the fly, but has there been any uh movies, books, shows that you've been into uh over the last couple weeks that you wouldn't mind shouting out before we get into Seinfeld?

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Yeah, you know, I actually want to talk to you about this specifically. I went to Project Hail Mary. I saw, yep, I saw your like. You were my first like on my review. And I agree with a lot of what your review says. It's a little spoon feedy, it's a little fish hooky, it's a little manipulative. I really liked F1 a lot. Should that movie win best picture at the Oscars or the BAFTAs or anything? Absolutely not. Is it a technical feat on pretty much every level? Yes, it is. Is it oozing with Brad Pitt's charisma? Yes, it is. Did I have a good time having popcorn and being stoned as I normally am and like letting the entertainment wash over me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

Would I ever see Avatar in the theater again? Absolutely not. Would I see Hail Mary, Project Hail Mary? Yeah, it's not, but it's not a movie I think I'm gonna add to my shelf. It was a fun experience one time, and I think you and I may agree here. Little creatures, little buddies, animals, children, what have you, being part of what drives something forward or is designed to keep my attention. There's a little bit of that that I'm is a turnoff.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

Allergic, allergic, allergic to it.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

It's a turn off to me a little bit. And it's yeah, gosling does a great job of selling the relationships. Uh Sandra Huller does a great job with the role that she has and had my favorite moment of the movie as coming from fairly pragmatic Scandinavian folks when she does karaoke and she's like performance is over, and just like leaves. It's a good moment. Yeah, yeah. I was like one of two or three people in the 70 millimeter that was like, that is the funniest thing I've seen in a while. Yeah, and then yeah, you not as much though.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

No, no, I I uh it's weird because from the trailer, from the jump, like it wasn't a marketing issue for me. I knew something was off for me. Like, I watched the trailer, and the way Ryan Gosling says the line, so I met an alien, has just like, I don't like it. It's just like I'm a I'm a big hard sci-fi guy. I rewatched Interstellar with my wife on Saturday because we love like that's one of our go-to's. I'm sure you're maybe a fan, maybe not. Never seen it. That's okay. We'll talk about that later. That's fair.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

Um this is a standard reaction.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

Oh, wow, that's fair. Well, Selena watched it and she did not care for it. And me and my wife were like, well, you're wrong. Like, it's just a classic Nolan. It's like hard sci-fi save the world from catastrophic circumstances. And I just struggled with Project Hail Mary's whole conceit of being, we are like in 30 years, the earth is going to be done. Like, we are going to go extinct. Those are dire circumstances, and every four to five minutes, there's a fucking joke. Every single time throughout the movie. Like, I couldn't marry these two things together so that like the woman next to me sobbed four separate times, but I could not connect to these like emotional beats that felt a little heavy-handed. Those tear ducks from gosling were just working overtime. And again, the little buddy thing, like I just felt Rocky to be like Baby Yoda, like some sort of cute animal they can sell after the fact. And yeah, I just walked away being like, I not a fan. So I found a small pocket community and letterboxed of other people who don't like it, and it made me feel very seen. I was like, finally, because it's so popular, it's just getting grave reviews, and I just felt like I was going crazy for a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

I understand the perspective that you and a few other people have. There's kind of a Marvel-y touch to it. There's this interesting tonal razor's edge that it rides at times, and it doesn't always do it perfectly.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

Kevin and his friends are nice people. They do good things, they read, break me down.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Within Gelman, across the hall. Hold on.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

Welcome to the Yada Yada podcast. Uh, today we are talking about The Bizarro Jerry, which is season eight, episode three, directed by Andy Ackerman and written by David Mandel. And I wanted to double check because he's written around 10 episodes, and this is the first time we're covering him. So just very quickly, uh, he is the executive producer and showrunner of Veep. He is a one of several writers on the film Cat in the Hat, and he is an uncredited co-director of Euro Trip, one of my favorite. Oh beh. Oh man, Veeep, too. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Veep hell of a show. Uh, he worked a lot on um uh curbier enthusiasm. And for David Mandel and Seinfeld, he was a story editor for most of season seven, and then he wrote uh 10 episodes over the last uh three seasons of this the runtime of the show. Um, it aired on October 3rd, 1996. And we usually open with like we used to do like a fun fact around the date or something going on, but we've sort of sidestepped to something quirky or fun, and this was a good one because I've only known about Bizarro Superman from Seinfeld. Like I'm not a big comic books guy, so I went on Wikipedia. Holy shit, that was the longest Wikipedia page I've ever seen. But I did a very quick deep dive into Bizarro Superman, just the first instance and how he came to be. And I'm just gonna throw a couple talking points at you from the history of Bizarro Superman because it's kind of fascinating. Um, basically, Lex Luthor created a duplicating ray, hit Superman, and created what was known as Bizarro Number One. And as soon as he was created, his first words were me not human, me not creature, me not even animal, me don't know difference between right and wrong, good and evil. So he has this way of talking in the comics, and I was so glad I found that because, and this is really jumping ahead to the Seinfeld episode. I was so fucking confused in that last scene with Kevin and Gene and Feldman because I had no idea what was going on. So specific to that character. Very much so, yes. Um, before I keep going, did you have uh any background in Bizarro Superman? Are you a comics guy? I don't know, I don't know if you had any insight into that as well.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

I touch on it so so so lightly. That's okay. I read a tiny bit of DC comics. I am certain I read something with Bizarro. I watched the animated Superman that was on in the 90s, and there was several episodes that revolved around Superman v Bizarro, and going that was my understanding was pretty close to the comic most of the time, and was always a treat when that like character showed up because there was going to be some sort of comedic and or humanist tilt uh that I don't know always made that sing. On the note of like fun facts or things about this, though, how many short-haired Elaine episodes are there?

SPEAKER_02 12:07

Uh that's there aren't a lot because we this is one of those things about covering it out of order. Um, the episode before is when uh it's involving the soul it's the soulmate, and it's when they basically go back and forth on the vasectomies, and Elaine and Kevin are sort of chickening each other about things that they was like, you know, maybe I do want kids, you know, maybe I want a lot of kids. I've always wondered what I look like with really short hair, and then she cuts it, and then the end of the episode, they're just looking at her, she's like, no, it's pretty short, and she regrets it immediately. And so we're seeing the the hair slowly grow back.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Okay, thank you for clarifying. And then the backward theme at the end, or like the kind of quirky, kind of backward Seinfeld theme that happens.

SPEAKER_02 12:52

Yeah, so that's again tied directly to the bizarro aspect of it, where they they take the usual theme, play it backwards, and all that fun stuff. Absolutely. Um, the last few bizarro specific things that I had, just focusing on that aspect, they created a bizarro Lois. Um, they had a son. Uh, what was he considered a freak? Like basically, there exists a world, it was called Hutray, which was Earth spelled backwards, and they literally did everything the opposite on Earth. So it was like truly an opposite society, and they shunned people who didn't live things backwardsly. Like it sounds like a very quirky, odd comic book. Um, but the episode of Seinfeld kind of gets it right in the in how they and how they portray this this sort of bizarro type episode.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

Wouldn't it be bad by? Is he black? It's no way. No, does he live underwater? Well, no, he's just when you get into the minutiae of it, it's like, do they work nights only?

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Is nights it's a lot, and then Superman Bizarro, he has so Superman has heat vision, whereas Bizarro has freeze vision. Let's dig into the episode because we're already getting into a bit of the specifics. Uh, we're gonna pass it over to you, Paul, for our patented 10-second synopsis. So, again, there's no timer, it's all about just a fun, quirky way of giving the the audience a recap on what happened in this episode. So, whenever you're ready, my friend.

SPEAKER_01 14:20

In these later seasons of Seinfeld, we're exploring more so that these people are terrible. And Elaine sees a mirror of her best friends, a a bizarro core for forms, if you will. George does abhorrent George things, like how he wants to benefit off of his fiancee dying and get into a secret society of supermodels. Kramer gets a job and takes the morning train to it, and Jerry dates man hands.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

It's a thing. I you chose a good one. Hell also, the uh we're not a video podcast, but that was that looked like it was purely off the dome. That was impressive. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

Close. I had little bullet points, I'm not gonna lie. Well done.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

Uh let's dig let's dig in. So, what we like to start with is just our overall takeaways, overall reviews. Paul, very simply, what did you think of the bizarro Jerry? Is there a scale? Is there a rating? No, sometimes, honest to god, Selena one day just was like eight out of ten, and she's never done that before, we've never done it since. So it's all if you got a rating system, if you want to go like three rows of crackers out of five, whatever you're feeling.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

That's good off the dome. I'm going to go with just because we didn't talk about it, and I assume you noticed it anyway, but the bizarro statue that Kevin has in his place. So I'm gonna I'm gonna take that low-hanging fruit. I'm gonna give this five out of five bizarro statues because that's how we do that on the review review. It's perfect.

SPEAKER_02 15:55

It's and five, and so five out of five. Is this a perfect episode? This is a perfect episode of Science.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

I think it's one of the truly great ones coming from someone that loves how the show ends. And think of what I was saying in terms of the beginning of the synopsis. Elaine multiple times throughout this show tries to escape these people that are like her soulmates, they're all terrible, like completely self-centered people. And when she looks in the mirror of what it would be like to not be one of these people, the best that the show can do it in its sitcom style, she's like, I gotta go. I can't, I'm not. This is not where I belong. And I like that the Jerry story is super funny and strange. The George thing is super funny and strange, the Kramer thing is super funny and it leans into how hard these mirrors are gonna look at these two sides, yeah. Through Elaine's eyes almost. And I'm gonna say this, Mr. Driscoll. Can I call you Eric? You can call me whatever you want. Okay, Mr. Driscoll. I'm gonna tell you that I think that Jerry Seinfeld, this is a solid acting performance in this episode from one Jerry Seinfeld.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

He has a lot of different like emotional avenues he has to follow. Like, there's the disgust of manhands, there's a lot of physical acting in that scene. Um, we'll get into like the characters, like we usually have to dig into the core for later, but I like that like because the acting and Jerry thing is an overall Seinfeld talking point that comes up all the time. But I think what we've noticed sometimes is like there are episodes where he's really clicking and he plays this sort of like um doting housewife who feels like he's being mistreated by everyone around him, like he's noticing the whole system breaking down, and he's reacting in kind, like he's he's upset, he's frustrated, he's really and then when things start to come back, he's super excited. Like, one of my favorite lines that we'll get to in Best Line is like, I'll call George. Like, I love that line. Like, it's go to the coffee shop, exactly, and that sort of joy, the jovial spirit. Like, it's nice to see him bounce between these modes. So I I agree a hundred percent on that.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Where do you rate this? I just find this so fantastic on like every level, it leans into so many things. I just think it's so well directed and shot, and it's goofy. I just I I hope you hold it in a high regard as well.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Uh yeah, spoiler alert, I I love this episode. Like, this is like like I this is re-watching it. I think I watched it three times in anticipation of this, and it reminded me of like the classics that come. This is a very special episode. Like the fact that we are playing with the formula of the show, a sort of meta-textual, like we are we know what these characters are like, and young me, like I this was the show that I watched when I was like a young lad. I watched it after school. I slowly went through the episodes. An episode that I like to compare this to is uh the Kenny Rogers Roasters, which I think we've shared our love for. One of my favorites. Exactly. So that episode has Kramer acting like Jerry and Jerry acting like Kramer, and for a young audience member, you're like, what are they doing? Like they're messing with the form, like it's just a whole thing. And to see this uncanny, strange, like like uh to see the different coffee shop, the characters slowly come in, the Feldman, the Gene, the Fargus, like it's just you're sort of in awe of the creativity. Like it's not anything groundbreaking, but for this show and this early in the 90s or this part of the 90s, like this felt like a creative win for this show that I love to go back to. Like, I would rewatch if I had to watch a few episodes forever for the rest of my life, this would be one of them. It is truly crazy. I would say so because we didn't really talk about it at the top. Like, are you with Seinfeld? Like, I don't want to assume your age, like you weren't watching it when it came out, obviously.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

You're not I was not, you're not, but I did not like it partly because I didn't get it, and also for a big portion of my life, these people are not likable. I do not really root for them, and so these are part of the reasons why I like this when you get the mirrors happening and and them having to deal with who they really are to whatever degree, it's it's a pleasure.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

Yeah, yeah. Um, I think I I've said all I wanted to say in the review. We're gonna dig into all the characters, but both of us are coming at this great episode, fantastic vibes. And your point about all each I would say each character's story is why this episode is great because there's no duds. Everyone is a winner, everyone has an interesting thing going on. And I think there we go. And that'll articulate that'll articulate our big four conversation when we talk about the four characters individually.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

And and I want to mention, too, over the last several years, that I think this is a top tenner for me as a show. I love this show. I did not realize that watching this a little bit out of spite offhand when I was younger, I definitely got part of my love for of sneakers from fucking Jerry Seinfeld, without a doubt. Style icon. Absolutely, absolutely. Tucked in, colorful button-ups, always cotton, so colorful, so colorful.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Uh okay. First, our first official category. What we like to do is rate the stand up slash cold open. We are in season eight, so we get a cold open, a cute little coffee shop outdoor date between our uh George and Jerry. Uh, any takeaways from that opening scene?

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Love George's hat as we're talking about fashion icons.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Hell yeah. I always love when one of the two of them especially say, well. What about this? What do you think about this? How about they give some sort of a scenario? And this is one of the more fun ones. I'm gonna make sure to say more fun, Mr. Driscoll. I'm not gonna say funner. That's not a word. As an English teacher, well done. Thank you. Yeah. So I do like the scenario as well. Like Alien Zoo or Circus.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

Yeah. And there's something about in the line. I it's only when you watch this when you know you're doing a podcast because I've never noticed it where George is like, Well, I don't want to be jumping through fire and doing this. And Jerry's just like that little side. That's like, at least it's show business. Yeah, but show business.

SPEAKER_03 22:37

Come on, come on.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

Oh, it's a great would you rather hoop. I agree. I agree. I I love when when they set up these premises for each other. It's it's normally pretty spicy, can get it going between you and another viewer fan, potentially. By the way, zoo. I was gonna say circus.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

Zoo. All right. What are you doing in the zoo? You're just sitting around playing with yourself? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 23:05

Yeah, well, what if they send a female in there for me to a mate? To mate. What if she's not interested in you? Well, I'm very lucky I have so no. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

So you'd really rather do the zoo. Like you just sit around just like like just do your everyday life while aliens come and gawk at you?

SPEAKER_01 23:26

I think so. It feels I don't know, man. The thrill of danger of the circus does kind of excite me. It's just something different.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Like I feel like the zoo after a while, I don't know. It would just be a little redundant.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

I think we as a larger society, when I say we think of the circus as like kind of like brutal and like mean and abusive.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

I don't want to think about it. So now we talk about the big four. No, now now we get our chance to dig into each storyline plot thread. What did we think of each character's beats? So we've talked about Jerry a little bit. You talked about the acting. What about Jerry's sort of storyline and moments in this episode stood out to you?

SPEAKER_01 24:11

I'm gonna say real quick, I love how every single storyline has a great escalation. I think there's like a really great payoff in every single one. And I think the Jerry escalation, de-escalation, evolution, de-evolution, whatever is happening, which by the way was for two. I sent out still effort. Still effort, he's not cracking, he's he is just like the whole system's breaking down, as you were saying, and he's just frustrated, shaking his useless little fists, and he I can't help but just kind of like fall for him in terms of the acting. And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fucking lie. At times in life, I have been a superficial person, as a very imperfect person, I have been superficial. People are not nearly as fucking superficial as they are in Seinfeld. In most of my experience, the way that they shoot the hands and add fully Jerry's storyline is really, really good, and I don't find that it ages horribly. I feel like everybody's like in on the joke.

SPEAKER_02 25:22

Yeah, we've talked about that a million like so many times, like whether it was the cigar store Indian or the Chinese restaurant. We've noticed we've noticed that somehow through I think solid writing and not punching down, Seinfeld is a show that has aged properly. Because like the idea of she had man hands, there's a world where that joke could be thrown into a direction that nobody really wants to touch in 2026. But when you're watching it, you're like, no, it's this is it's funny. Like she had she had big hands, she had man hands, they're big, then that's it. And and then the comedy is the physical aspect of the beer being twisted off, the lobster tail. Yeah, it's all of that is just like you and the way they the way they cut back and forth just makes it look perfect because it's just like these very oddly big hands caressing Jerry's face.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

Like it's it's such a great comedic device, yeah. It's such a great comedic device, and like her clearly like the way they shoot it, where she like her hands are under a purse and shit like that. I noticed that too. Yeah, it totally works for me. It totally works for me.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

Yeah, the thing I like that we've talked about the man hands. I would say the under like that that idea of like she had man hands has sort of become one of those classic moments of like the quirk of a girlfriend that leads to a breakup. But the thing that caught my attention with Jerry in this episode is in the beginning, ironically, he scoffs at the idea of friendship. He tells Elaine, like, who needs friends? I don't like why would anyone want a friend? And then as the episode goes forward, he slowly realizes like he needs his friends, like he's starting to lose a grip on like the system because George is seeing a supermodel, Kramer's got a job, and Elaine has these other friends, and Jerry, in an unsentimental way, is feeling the sentiment of like, why is everyone not around me anymore? Like, I need my people, I need my circle. And it's kind of sweet and endearing when he's like, made this chicken for two.

SPEAKER_01 27:21

He's codependent, very codependent. People in his gravity, and the thing is, is like they kind of all are on each other. Like, this is one of those episodes that helps you realize that. As you were saying, like, Jerry feels himself separating from everyone, he feels himself Kramer. We never talk anymore, and all this stuff, and his frustration of just like having no power, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

And it speaks to like what we talk about a lot on this show is how Jerry often isn't the center of comedy, he's letting his friends around him create this the comedic circumstances, and with them not around, he's lost. He's drifting aimlessly like Kramer is before finding his job at Brant Leland. Whose story do you feel like this episode is? Who is the main story in this one? It feels I feel like it's Elaine. Like, let's like sometimes we like to let's tweak the order because we started with Jerry, and I think that's a good segue to Elaine because she's like it's almost like they talk about a zoo at the beginning, and it feels like she's somebody in like a zoo analyzing and looking at the people around her in curiosity, fascination. And that's she doesn't have to do much. Like Elaine's character does a lot in some episodes, but for this one, she's just like, hello, and like looking is like we already got a George. Like they're also it's also subtle and simple, but the bizarro world is such a crucial part of this episode that she kind of anchors to herself.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

Elaine is with these other people who are by probably most accounts incredible. A lot of them feel like Elaine episodes at times, George episodes too, but a lot of them feel like Elaine episodes in that, like fucking hey, these people are terrible. I want to get out. Like, you feel the show like wanting to wrap up in season like late season seven into season season eight. Like, because that's about when they were like on the verge of being like, I think we're we've done it.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

They were close to the end, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it reminds me of there's a cold open, I can't remember if we've covered it or not, where it's like a dream sequence where Elaine is in bed and then Jerry's there, and then George is there. And that sort of speaks to like the larger theme. Like, this isn't really a show of deep themes and deep ideas, but I think internally, like Elaine does seem like a character who's trying to escape, and who I think sees herself in this, like, I'm not like them, like I'm a bit better than them. And so she sees these three characters and is just like, I can fit in with them, I could be in on this side.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

It's a rest of development, and she's Michael. She doesn't realize that she's the asshole. Yes, that she also is an asshole. Yes, but two great shows, and I'm not trying to take anything away from either.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Uh, but it's a good comparison. It's a good yeah, and I feel like she you talked about satisfying conclusions for each character. Like slowly, the gang, the new gang, the bizarro gang, sees something in Elaine. We're like, I don't think you're a good fit. Like it's the olives, and then it's the push, and it's just there's something off about Elaine fitting in with this group, and eventually she's ostracized, she's kicked out. Let's move on to George. Uh, I wrote down George is a one-trick horny pony in this one. He gets one move and he just relies on it. And despite the fact that it's kind of a weird fucked up thing for him to do, is just flash around this photo of a woman and claim it's his dead fiance.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

But it's such a perfect George episode where he, by design, is like Gene is not very like talkative or worried about attention, doesn't need uh the power of other people to build him up. And George literally is like, I need a photo of someone to build me up to get women to date me. And then he gets access to I don't know, does he go from Tinder to Raya? Do they have Raya in Canada?

SPEAKER_02 31:07

I I can only assume Raya is like an upper tier where it's like you need like an income threshold to be on it. Is that what it is? Like I think her followers or movie or music credit shit. It's like clout. Yeah, you need clout.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Yeah, clout, or it's aura farming, dog. Emotional vampires all over that thing, dog. No cap. That's no cap. That's I I see what you're putting down. Out of every seven people you go on, six seven people are sorry for the audience at home. I'm doing the hand gesture related to six seven because I'm obsessed with it. And this episode is just such a beautiful George. Whatever smart casual is, you don't have it. And George just goes, Nope. Like he just immediately falls in line.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

Yeah, yeah. And I like how every moment he has not showing off the picture. Like, I love his deeply insecure. Like, I we've all been there where you try to make conversation with cool people and you just fall flat on your face, where he's just like, Oh, modeling, that sounds fun, and it's just like he knows immediately, he's like, What am I doing? I am not in my element. Here, look at this picture. Here's a hot woman I was engaged with, and that's his only move. That's his only thing.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

Did you cut this out of a magazine? This is literally from a clinique ad. That's me. It's so pathetic, but it's so George. And this is this is the thing is like, uh, are you a basketball person, American football, baseball? Are you a sports person? Yeah, yeah, like American football, baseball, yeah, okay, more or less. Yeah, so I know you're not a Seahawks. Are you an Eagles fan? I am an Eagles fan. I don't know if you go back like super far necessarily, but he's like a Brian Dawkins. Like Jason Alexander is the unheralded MVP. I think of this. He is such a fucking fantastic actor. Incredible. Just commits so hard. This is the the beauty of this episode is you feel a level of commitment from everyone, similar to the level of commitment he has every single fucking episode.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

Yeah. And you can see it in the small moments, like when he's just doing his hair and he's matching up to the Dennis Franz poster behind him, and he's like tweeting references. It's it's exactly, and he's just like he puts it, he's like, he's like uh like playing with it, he's doing a couple of these in the mirror. Yeah, that's finger guns, he does finger guns, like he's he's such a driving around in John Void's car.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

Oh it has that vibe, yeah. So great.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

Yeah, and he rides it right until the end, and then again, a satisfying conclusion. He I love like the the rapid, like he tries the the cutout clinique ad, and within a second, the bouncer has and I noticed it gets like a firm grasp on its neck, he's like, Oh, yeah, it's time to go, it's time to go, and then shut down. The whole enterprise is gone. There's no more club, there's no more sexy women. It's a meat packing plan.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

By the way, his next move being I'll bring Jerry next time, rather than I'll bring Elaine. That would bring Elaine, dum-dum. Like George is so dumb, it's so dumb.

SPEAKER_02 34:15

Uh, let's slide over to our last of the four. We got Kramer, who just all everything is good about him in this. He's got a montage, he's got he's got he's self-aware. He's just like, I don't know if you've noticed this, but I've been kind of drifting aimlessly. Now that you mention it, he knows. He knows, he knows, and he's just like, I'm not doing this for the money. Like, he gets set up, he just happens to be at Brandt Leland, he gets called into the office. No pay, no pay. He's just he's a he's an intern.

SPEAKER_01 34:47

He's an intern. Working is its own reward again. He he needs the structure area.

SPEAKER_02 34:53

Yeah, he needs the structure, he needs the structure, and it's like he almost like personifies like the 50s husband who just comes home late almost like treat the wife well, and just like he's a three-piece suit. Yep, yep. The briefcase pattern, pattern tie, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

He does what's what's in the briefcase, by the way?

SPEAKER_02 35:14

Crackers. It's the quick delivery.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

There's no like the door shutting. Yeah. Andy Ackerman, and also these people having worked together for years at this point.

SPEAKER_02 35:26

Like, this is like a clock. Prime. Yeah, yeah. So, like, there isn't much to say about him in the sense that like I I really love the awkward firing scene at the end. Because again, oh my god. Like, I love how each character has got their satisfying conclusion, and his is just so awkward. It's just like, I don't really, I don't really work here. It's like that's what makes this so awkward.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

He doesn't belong there. Like, that's the thing is like, no, the structure, the beauty of your life, Kramer, is just existing by the seat of your pants. Like, I don't even really work here. Like, I know that's what makes this so difficult. Yeah, like it's like, yeah, by the way, uh, shouts to Leland as well for side character. Yeah, shouts to Vargas. Yeah, we'll get there.

SPEAKER_02 36:07

We'll get there. I I know.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

I just want to make sure I mention all the necessary people.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

Absolutely. Because those guys get their moments. Uh, I like that you mentioned most dated reference. Let's slide over there because we got the post we got the poster of Dennis Franz. What else? Do you catch any other? Because this category we'll kind of just toss it out there. Me and Selena don't do it as often, but I like to highlight it with guests if they catch anything. I I did actually like George the Animal Steel. I had that too.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

Foxer wrestler? I don't think he's a wrestler with this person.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

I wrote down the concept of pictures in your wallet.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

Was that anything? You know, I think that is something actually. It's like I uh have at times in my life like carried a picture of my brother who's like 18 years my junior. Like I carry a picture, uh uh one of those photo booth pictures of me and uh special K the beat out like sometimes. But it's like not necessarily for others. Like George is weaponizing it. Like this is for me. This is for me. Yeah. Are you a picture wallet guy?

SPEAKER_02 37:09

No, that's why I think it's it's I think it's date, it's it's a dated reference because now it's like oh right. Okay, I'm caught up. I'm caught up. We have a phone, right? Like it's like for dated reference, it's it's like before phones, it was easier to show off pictures of your family to people around you, right? Hi, I'm Brant Leland. I'm the CEO and founder of 9 to 5 Crackers. Stuck in the grind, always taking the morning train to that dreaded 9 to 5 job? Got a baby at home waiting for you. Well, we can't solve all your problems, but we can at least provide a quick snack for the businessman who's too busy with TCB to focus on the BLT. Our crackers fit seamlessly into your briefcase. Who needs important reports, files for the big boss, or anything of substance when you've got nine to five crackers? For the businessman on the go, slowly losing his grip on the structure of his work-life balance. At least you've got crackers. Uh, okay, let's slide over to mine and Selena's favorite category of all time, best line, where literally we just get to parrot the best lines from this episode back and forth. We can do as many as we want because it's our show and we love Seinfeld. So, Paul, as the guest, uh, hit me with uh one of your favorite lines.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Oh, that's because you don't sell the steak, you sell the scissors. Well, if that's the case, make mine a double.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

That is actually the very next line. Very next line. Yeah, I I love that glasses guy, the one that he says the line to it's like, uh good job, K-Man. Like again, small little side character that has a big impact. So good line.

SPEAKER_01 38:50

He's clearly very well liked at the office. That's what makes this so difficult. Yeah, he's a fan.

SPEAKER_02 38:56

Everyone loves him. Everyone loves him. What could we do? I read books, Jerry.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

Big whoop. Could you keep it down for a low roar? Some of us have work in the morning.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

That one felt like on the nose. Like that was like Kramer really like giving him the business on like, I'm a professional now.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

This is what I do. This is what I do. This is part of what I like about this, is it's it's the writing and the acting and the direct, it's all leaning so hard into the concept of the episode.

SPEAKER_02 39:30

Yeah. Uh exquisite marble, high ceilings, and a flush like a jet engine.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

He knows. He knows. If you need an extra set of hands, I know you can call. Jerry! Jerry! It was like a creature out of Greek mythology. A dated reference, literally. Yeah, there we go. But timeless. Yeah. So what are you doing over there? TCB, you know, taking care of business. We already did what what do you got in there? Crackers. Crackers. Make a wish. No, make a wish. Didn't come true. Like when he opens his eyes, and I don't know the name of the male actor who plays the hands. Good job of manicuring that gentleman's hands, by the way. Well, of course, this woman that has these huge hands would have beautifully manicured hands. Like George's hands pre-accident.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

Absolutely. Before we move on, because this that was a perfect segue to one of my fun facts. Manhands is played by a man named James Recart, who Seinfeld personally cast because he met him in uh acting classes.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

Oh, awesome. Well, that guy's a great hand actor. He's a great hand actor. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

Yeah. Uh, what's one more? Who is it? Feldman from across the hall.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

Oh, okay. I've got a couple more. Keep going. This is the Jerry has this tiny mini monologue for what would be a sitcom monologue. It's several slugs. Elaine's off in Bizarro World. George only calls when he needs something, and I'm left sitting here like this plate of cold chicken, which by the way, was for two. And he drops it in the sink. You cover what happened to your hand like you care. His job is killing you. It's killing us. Him not breaking through that. For me, uh, it would take me a few takes. It was no joke. And I'm sorry, we've already got a George.

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Yeah, that's great. I think that's I think the only one I have another Jerry delivery. It's your third day. You know, the guy is also we like to do best worst outfit. I don't know if you're about a bit of a bit of a fashion East. We talked about George's fun little hat at the beginning. We already touched on that. Um, smart casual, kind of brought up like fashion is a component of the episode. Um anything you noticed fashion-wise, it's all right if you if you wasn't really anything that caught your eye.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

I love the actress that plays Jillian's. Yep. I hate the outfits. Yeah, they feel so dated, they feel so frumpy and shit. Yeah. So they they're just not doing it for me.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

Yeah, we've talked about um like in later seasons, Elaine's attire gets a lot better. Like they start dressing her in ways that are more like 90s but not dated. And it did seem legit, like the the usually the um side actresses, the characters who play the girlfriends, they're left with kind of the leftovers from the late 80s, early 90s, and it you can tell sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

Elaine's apartment. A couple times when you go into it, it's like, Oh, are you house-inning for your grandma? Yes, this is cool. It's like you feel like you're going to George's when he's living with his parents and they're on vacation.

SPEAKER_02 42:57

Yeah. It's not a woman's apartment, but it's just like this is what we had around, so we just kind of shoved it in there. Yeah, it feels haphazard. Yes. Um, the only note I made is that I noticed that Jerry's like home attire really dips into depression mode. He's rocking more ropes. Because like he's usually very like, he's got the tucked-in cotton shirt, the belt. He usually keeps it together. But as his mental health declines and his friendships are dissipating, he's like, I'm just gonna I need a comfy robe. I'm in depression mode. So that was my one little observation.

SPEAKER_01 43:30

You can tell through the way that he's costumed throughout how he's kind of feeling.

SPEAKER_02 43:37

Uh, let's move over to most valuable side character. We got a few. We got so just to go through the list, so we got Kevin. I sort of uh trioed Feldman, Gene, and Fargus together, but we can talk about them individually if we'd like. Amanda, the guys at Brant Leland, and then Gillian.

SPEAKER_01 43:59

Okay. I want to make sure that I give my Jason Alexander sixth man Brian Dawkins award to Leland.

SPEAKER_02 44:10

Leland is the boss at the like the boss at the end.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Yeah, I think that's old man Leland. I think that's old man Leland. It is old Land. I just think he's so great. That scene is so wonderful. I'm just trying to get ahead. It's the again, he just really sells it. There's a beautiful dryness to it. Ultimately, I have to give this to the actress that plays Jillian. If she's not in on this joke, it doesn't work. And the Jerry storyline is kind of the hardest one to sell, but also the way that they have the hands actor and the way it's edited, this is edited so well. Boy, I would be interested like how long each character of the core for each one's segment was in terms of minutes.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

And I I think this up like because they're alternating between the hand stuff, and I also we didn't talk about it at the top, but the editing for Reggie's Diner, like the filming on the opposite side, the exterior shots they get of the gangs, like the side by side of the gangs meeting. Like it's this up, like later seasons, you do get a bit more variety and a bit more um bang for your buck with like shots and editing and all that stuff. So it's nice that they pulled this out in season eight.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

The set direction, as you mentioned, Reggie's when you get to Kevin's apartment, he has a unicycle, he has horses instead of Porsches. Oh, I like that. I didn't think of that. Yeah, yeah. Yes, the director, set direction, set decoration of this episode is flawless. It's up there with the great episodes of TV. They're so I say this on my podcast, the givea shit level is crazy high on great.

SPEAKER_02 45:52

I love that phrase. Absolutely. Like they could have done this half-assed and they didn't. Like every detail in Kevin's apartment feels like a direct connection to the opposite of Jerry's apartment, which is the the keen viewers notice it too, which is awesome.

SPEAKER_01 46:08

I would be interested what books and movies Kevin has on his shelf. Yeah, I was thinking that's compared to Jerry having, I think, two copies of Child's Play.

SPEAKER_02 46:16

And I know he has Pretty Woman as well. He does have pretty woman rules.

SPEAKER_01 46:20

I also want to see the original version of that, if you understand that reference at all.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 46:25

Certainly, it's like a hardcore R-rated, like I'm hooking to live like kind of movie, and they Disney fied it.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

Yeah, well, Jason Alexander uh appears prominently in Pretty Woman and not a great guy. Not a great guy.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

Fantastic in that movie. Yeah, different kind of shitty guy.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

Yep. Uh okay, so I like I think I'm down to give it to Jillian because she's in on the look, and I also occasionally like to comment on the appearance of the Jerry girlfriends. I think she's pretty hot. I think she's doing pretty well. And I don't think I'm pretty lady. Pretty lady, and I think, you know what? Those hands, I could probably get by them. I think I'd be okay. I'd make it work.

SPEAKER_01 47:03

I mean, dude, there are some people that like a Trump hand on certain areas of their body because it makes them feel big. Some people are okay with somebody with a big set of George the Animal Steel, likes a good grip. Yeah, that's okay too.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

That's okay. No judgment around here.

SPEAKER_01 47:21

I have no problem. I have no problem with the the big grippy hand. There we go. Uh between the moving.

SPEAKER_02 47:30

I opened up a can with my big hands that I didn't I shouldn't have opened. I should have just left that can unopened. Big old bear paws. Big old bear paws. Okay, uh Feldman, Gene, and Vargas. I wanted to hit on those guys before we moved on. And Kevin, because like I'm down to say Jillian, congratulations, most valuable side character. But of the core four, what did you notice about those four that kind of stuck out to you?

SPEAKER_01 47:55

It's a hard decision, by the way, to give it to Leland over any of those people. Straight up, especially Kevin. The guy who plays Kevin is fantastic. The guy who plays Vargas is fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 48:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

So giving it to Gillian, keep in mind this was highly competitive, highly competitive category here. Big bracket, big bracket to use. Was it not? I feel like it was like it. We were round ball rocking here. And by the way, Gillian could grip that thing with two a thumb and an index.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

Absolutely. She's lying.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

Could hold that size seven basketball, no problem.

SPEAKER_02 48:37

Uh who do you like more, Gene or Feldman?

SPEAKER_01 48:42

Boy. That's really difficult. I think I think in the end it's Gene.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

I think his last line is it's like one of those, like, it's the character, it's the Simpsons, you know, when the little guy hasn't done anything, but you know it's gonna be big. Like it's like Gene. Yeah, yeah. It's like Gene sits on the sideline, does his little like stands up and does one of those, and then by the end, he just looks like he's he's he's like protecting his buddy. It's like, haven't you done enough already? Like, that is a great way.

SPEAKER_01 49:15

Great delivery is so good, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:18

So and then Feldman's just Feldman's just a humble Kramer, and he's you know, got decent ideas for weather-related alarm clocks.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

He's chill, he has good ideas for inventions. It seems like he is a pretty level-headed. That's the thing, these people seem charitable, well-read, cultured, like they have that I'm single because I want to be, and I'm happy with my life, and I'm fulfilled as an individual. And this is nice. I don't like getting pushed or people going through my house.

SPEAKER_02 49:48

I love it. Yeah. Uh, let's move over to Paco's rubber band award, an episode or a category that can get big and small at times, but I would say there's a lot of food references, like, and this is why we created the show. This is a category we've always stuck with because you get surprised at how important food is in the show.

SPEAKER_01 50:08

How do you not pick suitcase full of crackers and then you go over what all is in this episode, and it's hard, it's hard to decide.

SPEAKER_02 50:18

Like you have the cold chicken that was for two, olives, and like you have like the the like going back to the Jillian scenes and the Foley work and the the camera work, like there's a lot of cool insert shots of the bread, the beer, the lobster. Um, I love how the beer logo just says beer, like they don't have the sponsor, it's just a beer. Um, I couldn't tell. Kramer was making a breakfast on his first morning at Brant Leland. Could you tell what he was making in that pan? Was it a it seemed like eggs?

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Uh he has Johnny Walker at a point. I don't know if he's a good one. No, that counts. Yeah, yeah. So he pays attention to that. I I paid attention to that. It Elaine has a tuna sandwich that she calls a dry sponge at the beginning of the episode. This so this is an episode that's hungry, hungry, hungry, and that's why the category is.

SPEAKER_02 51:23

Yeah, no, I like that. Yeah, let's give it. I think crackers was the number one contender in that category, but I think the beer is so good. The beer came came in strong.

SPEAKER_01 51:30

Are we in kind of a weird lockstep so far on a lot of things?

SPEAKER_02 51:34

I think so. That's usually how we go. Like we're not we're not really like uh we don't get into too many disagreements unless it's about Project Hill Mary, which is usually pretty pretty tame.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Um can't wait to hear you and your regular co-host discuss.

SPEAKER_02 51:49

Yeah, let's go to pa's one fun fact. Did you do any uh deep diving into like any other facts that we haven't really touched on yet?

SPEAKER_01 51:58

I'm gonna be honest with you, I didn't. I kind of felt like I I noticed a couple things.

SPEAKER_03 52:02

Like it's like you talked about the bizarro jerry.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

There's uh there's a backward theme. There's a like, yep, there's some fun, interesting Elena short hair. Yep. How many cold opens are there versus do you know?

SPEAKER_02 52:14

I think they started around season seven. So I think one through six are consistently stand-ups, and then I think it's around seven is when they switched, and then that's when they dumped that dump shit.

SPEAKER_01 52:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:28

Yeah, I'm on the stage, you can't see nobody. Is it funny?

SPEAKER_01 52:33

Was that in front of a live studio audience, or was that somebody hitting a button?

SPEAKER_02 52:38

I think they're hitting a button, and I've also something we realized during the show is that Jerry's stand-up and that is pretty milk toast and bland. That's the sort of consensus we've landed on. It's not the best kind of comedy. Um network-approved very much, and sometimes tangentially related to the episode at hand, but sometimes just nonsensical and random.

SPEAKER_00 52:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:58

Um, so I I think we've covered every single fact. Uh I did. Um, did you look into recurring bits? That's Selena's least favorite category. I don't know if that one made sense.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Who is this? That's what I wrote. That's the first one I wrote down. See, there's an Art Vandalay reference. And there's an Art Vandalay, and there's a get out. Oh, get out when she pushes Kevin over. You're right. I didn't think of that. Because this happens so regularly and it's so different, and it's so important in the episode, so well put. But for me, the one that hits the hardest and the one that I love the most. I wish I could use Art Vandalay. Maybe that's why I don't like it as much. But the who is this? Whenever Jerry does that, it tickles my heart.

SPEAKER_02 53:42

Tickles my heart. And then I remember there was one, and I couldn't remember the first time I re-watched this because sometimes he does the the one time he did the Uncle Leo, and that one.

SPEAKER_01 53:54

Uh let's go. Uncle Leo stealing a favorite episode of mine. A book, yes, yes. George came in the bathroom boat.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:06

Uh and then another category we haven't touched on in a while is modern Seinfeld, and that's where we kind of take the story of the episode and try to like put a little modern spin on it.

SPEAKER_01 54:16

For me, it's that Elaine realizes that she wants to break out of this sense of arrest development and join these people that are a little bit more evolved for lack of a better not trapped in a sitcom, which they kind of reference at points throughout the series where it's like, what is going on with our life? How does this happen?

SPEAKER_02 54:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:37

Which is funny, but I I feel like we're seeing if if if everything were modernized, there would be, I don't know, would they be broccoli headed? I hope not. But they would it would be Kevin, Feldman, and Gene all the time. If we were to modernize, but uh it's like I'd modernize Seinfeld as a whole, where the sh it's weird to say this, and I feel like old man yells at Cloud, but this show doesn't get made the way it was for the most part, even with the clear comeuppance that happens. And I don't know if you've done the finale.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

No, no, we're save, we'll save that for the end, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:20

Yeah, in my opinion, there's a clear and earned comeuppance that happens, and so I just feel like this was the beginning of that really starkly being pointed out, where the only thing that's really salvageable is Elaine questioning any of it. But for me, modernizing I can't modernize the episode, but if I modernized the series, these would all be cultured approachable. Like, hey, sounds good, friend. Wanna go get a malt and play pickleball? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:00

Just like average people that just sound like the average human beings in 2025. I like what you were saying about there's something I like your old man yells at clouds because I often sound like an old man yelling at clouds these days. But I if Seinfeld can't what we are, that's what we are. Seinfeld comes out on Netflix, say like 2020, four seasons, and then they cancel it, but it's a surprising hit. I guarantee that within a couple years there is a spin-off of Seinfeld that features uh Feldman, Kevin, and Gene, and that's the new show. Like they've milked that cow again to make more money, like what Stranger Things is doing. Like that show's done, and now they're gonna do spin-offs and milk it and try to keep going. Seinfeld airs now, the show ends, but they still want to maintain the popularity. What about that bizarro episode? How crazy would it be if we took those guys and made a little one season one-off of their hijinks and adventures?

SPEAKER_01 56:58

I think it ran for five or six seasons. The show you're talking about, where they said, It's already milk toast. How do we just make it? It is just flavor and Walter. It was called Young Sheldon. Yes, and they've done yes, they took an already very as we were talking about network approved E, not a show that I enjoy, Big Bang Theory, and they were like, How do we make this more shitty? Yep, and then they've done it, they've done it again. They did it again. Origin somebody's first wedding. What which one is it? Is it that one? It is that one.

SPEAKER_02 57:35

That's the new one, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

They're always successful somehow at homogenizing things further and further. And isn't it interesting that you and I are talking? I mean, boy, the Heartland, they love those, they love their programs, they love those stories, pal.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

The old the old CBS uh network uh lineup. Like you just can't go wrong with it.

SPEAKER_01 57:55

How I met your mother? Well, she was my sister. And then they did How I Met Your Father. Didn't they?

SPEAKER_02 58:01

Yeah, and there's a I don't know, there's a fucking podcast. I don't know. There's too many things these days. Aren't there? This is yeah. Uh well, this has been a fantastic episode. We've reached the end of our program. Uh, I still have to record one of my funky ads that I like to intersperse into our episodes, but we can do that after. We do fake ads. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember your fake ads. Great. Yeah. So uh I'll do that after, but I want to thank you, Paul, for coming on here. Oh, pleasure. Check out the Review Times Two podcast on Instagram wherever you get your podcasts. Um anything you wanted to add?

SPEAKER_01 58:34

At Review X2 Podcast. Review X2 Podcast. The Review Review Podcast. Subscribe. If you're not subscribed to the Yada Yada podcast, subscribe here. Uh maybe the sampling. I'll pop in and out if that's okay. I've had such a great time. I'm so glad.

SPEAKER_02 58:50

So thank you so much for listening to the Yaddy Yada Podcast. Uh, we will be back in a couple weeks with a recommends. Uh, I want to thank Selena, who does the editing, myself for the social media, and John Bartman for our theme music. And we'll see you all next time. What's your what's your letterbox? Do you remember? Yeah, it's Mr. Oh, Drisky, D-R-I-S-S-K-K-Y. Yeah, we follow each other.

SPEAKER_01 59:12

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unknown 59:18

I love that.

SPEAKER_02 59:20

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