Dumpster Diving with Janice & Jane Podcast
Dumpster Diving with Janice & Jane Podcast
Catching Up: Embracing Balance, Self-Care, and Simplicity
It's been a minute so we're catching up after what feels like the longest January in hisory. We explore the importance of self-care, the pressures of societal expectations, and the healing power of nature in our busy lives. Sharing our own stories, we reflect on the need to prioritize our mental health and embrace the seasonal rhythms of life. We cover a whole range so hang on to your seats:
• Recognizing the pressures of modern life
• The importance of self-care and resilience
• Embracing seasonal changes for well-being
• Personal reflections on stress management
• Setting boundaries with social media
• Prioritizing presence and simplicity in our lives
And Janice makes a pledge to ditch FB, IG, and TT for at least two weeks...so be sure to tune in next time to hear how it goes!
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you're listening to dumpster diving with janice jane and I don't know if you could hear that plane flying over my house.
Speaker 2:But uh, it's good, but that's weird, because usually we can't like the voice. Cancellation is so good. That's weird, I know well it was flying pretty low too, yes, and it was a bigger plane.
Speaker 1:Usually it's just like little commuter planes and cessnas and shit like that, but we also have a couple military bases close to where I live and sometimes they set off the car alarms careful don't tell too much about like detail, about.
Speaker 2:I'm watching this girl on instagram right now who does all the safety stuff. I was just thinking don't tell people that, because they'll be looking you up and they're like wait, she lives in california, near two bases, near. Oh, she lives right here and the next thing you know you got a whack job on your front porch.
Speaker 1:Come on, jane you're right and I, as I said that I'm like is this too much information?
Speaker 2:no, every series coming out there. They're waiting us right now, baited. Those are the five people listening to us.
Speaker 1:They're all serious, yeah, those so, rose, I just I just need to say that I don't think you're a serial killer.
Speaker 2:Her quiet, calm exterior.
Speaker 1:Come on, it's a little shaky, come on rose she's gonna love this, this, this is great. Oh my God, oh my God. She's like I totally have a serial killer. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2:How did they know and you know, her husband does deep sea fishing and he's the one who dumps the bodies.
Speaker 1:Got it. I need to be their business coach because we can capitalize on this.
Speaker 2:He reels them out on the little sea kayak.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's like he's like and then he just kicks him off and she's like good job, honey, to be a supportive husband, and he's like got you babe have a whole new movie differently produced. Yeah, um of rose and wow, but that's not what we came to talk about. She's gonna die, she's gonna be like. You guys are assholes, so all right off with this.
Speaker 1:Yes, we have not recorded in probably over a month I think, yes, I mean, we did our first episode at the beginning of January. It's been, it's after Valentine's day now, um, but for good reason. Um, I think that, uh, you know, and, and Janice you know she has the busiest life of all, and, um, how she gets things done sometimes. But you know, then again I think about it and I get a lot of shit done too, too. So you have done and, and, and. More than anything, we really know how to handle stress. We do. I've learned anything about myself. I've learned that I'm pretty darn good and resilient at you are with fucking stress. I don't know if I do it, it's, it's the power within. I don't know how I do it. It's the power within, and it takes other people to let me know that, because I forget that Right, because you can't see it in yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally, and so we've taken this last couple of weeks to be busy and do all those things. I have some crazy shit going on in my life that you know. I'll be a little vulnerable on today's episode and talk about it a little bit, but without giving too much detail. But more so than anything, the energy and the self-coaching that I've had to do and and the other conversations that I've had, that really like I had like a little epiphany this morning, so it was cool. But that's, that's me in a nutshell and we'll get more into it. But what, uh, how do you want to kick off?
Speaker 2:um, I want to apologize to rose for calling her a serial killer and for making her wait so long for our next episode. And I will say this you guys, like in all seriousness, we joke because we do have a small following and that's okay because we're, you know, we're, we know it's going to build um and we know what's coming. But, like, I was on facebook the other day doing whatever and, um, somebody had oh, because it was my birthday and you know lots of like birthday wishes and stuff, which was really sweet.
Speaker 2:But one of the people who did, who's like literally somebody I'm connected to through a former colleague through it, like it's not a, it a it's not somebody I know well or you know, um, and she was like and, by the way, I just started listening again, I've been, you know, I've been absent, but I'm back and I'm she's only on like episode five, which made me feel good because we have 50 episodes.
Speaker 1:She has plenty to listen to.
Speaker 2:But it made me. It was again that kind of re-inspiration of like you know, it's easy to to your point, right, like we're both so jammed up and it's really easy to put this on the back burner when we feel like there's only five people waiting for an episode, right, but that message made me go okay, like. It's like if it means enough to people, after listening to the first few, that they're coming back, regardless of whether that's five people or 5000 people, like OK, and I know that I get so much joy out of this time with you and and so yeah, it's. I think that all of that to say that like I'm looking forward to being intentional about prioritizing this time, because literally it's an hour a week, right, like, but prioritizing it. And you know, we said we said we're going for another 50. So whether that takes us a year or 20 years, I hope it doesn't take us 20 years to win it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have long-term goals too.
Speaker 2:Anyway, so happy to win it. Yeah, we have long-term goals too. Anyway, so happy to be back and thank you for everybody who clicks on this link and listens today and, you know, takes the ride with us.
Speaker 1:Exactly yeah, cause it's been. It's been a wild ride for the last couple of months, I mean, and it has been for so many people, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, and let me show you what I think. I can't remember if I said this in our first episode running away from the camera, but I will say this is seriously super helpful. And now I have to catch up on a week. But I think I told you like I started this. I saw the science wherever I saw.
Speaker 2:I can't remember and it's like put one note in the jar for every week of something, that week that you're proud of, like something that happened that you're proud of, you could do, grateful for, you could do whatever right. But the reason I chose proud of is because it's easy to get to the end of a month and look at my calendar and go, how the fuck did I do all of that? Because it's so crazy, and also to beat myself up for all the shit I didn't do. And to you know, could I have done that better if I'd had more time? Yada, yada, right, that's what we do to ourselves. So this is going to be like I get to and I don't even think I'm going to wait till the end of the year. I think I want to wait till, like June and then read what I have so far as inspiration for the second half of the year, but like to get to the end and remind yourself that, okay, that first week of January I did actually do this thing. So, um, well, I'm glad that I glad.
Speaker 1:I'm glad that you bring up June because, um, a lot of people you know detour from doing stuff like this because it's a whole year. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, right, for a month. Try it for a month and at the end of the month, read, read everything that you're proud of. Or or wait a month and then go back a month. You know it doesn't have to be. You have to wait a month and then go back a month. You know you doesn't have to be. You have to wait a whole year and then sit there and read through all of this shit and you probably don't remember. Remind yourself a little bit sooner, find yourself, to keep yourself going, because what can and will happen to a lot of people is that we lose the luster for it because we're not getting that. We're not getting that feedback for ourselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and if you look too long, you lose the luster and you stop doing it, and it was like that was dumb. Anyway, I never looked at it. Well, yeah, so know how you're motivated with that and know that if you need to check in a little bit sooner, or even if you feel doubtful and whatever, go to that freaking jar and pull some stuff out and read it and then put it back in the jar. But it's like you're documenting it and you're able to reach in anytime that you want and get that serotonin going, and you know and and, yeah so I'm proud of you for bringing it up on the podcast again. You're welcome. So so keep in mind that I love that idea and it's great, but be realistic with yourself and know how you're motivated and if you need to see motivation a little bit sooner, don't wait the full year, you guys, please.
Speaker 2:That's exactly right and I am. So here's my, just so everybody knows I'm writing it right now my win for this past week. So, joe and I just got back from our first cruise. We've never taken one before and the win for me is that I literally did not touch work yeah, and I always.
Speaker 2:I always take my laptop. I left my laptop at home. I, and you know, truth be told, I opened up my email a couple times and just skimmed, but I didn't respond to any emails. I didn't do anything. It was mostly just so that I didn't have a huge like rude awakening when I got back. So that's just it. I'm just writing a little post-it note for the week of February 9th through 16th. I left work alone for the week, right, good job, and that's it.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, all right, moving on, but yes, I love that yeah, no, and I like the reminder and I like that you and I would love for you to continue to bring it up, because that's something I'm not doing right now and you are, but I like it and you know, and doing some little celebrations too, Exactly.
Speaker 2:You know Exactly.
Speaker 1:Yep, and then maybe some of our fans like Rose, you know she can talk about how she was proud of Janice too.
Speaker 2:I know and write it in.
Speaker 1:I want more people to talk about me. No, I want people to let us know what they're proud of. You know, like really being able to, and maybe we'll you know.
Speaker 2:Let let me just start here, guys. Okay, let's hear it.
Speaker 1:I'm tired of talking about the things that we are, we want to do and are going to do. So Janice and I are becoming very much more intentional with what we're doing, and it's because we really enjoy this and I don't want it to feel like a chore. And so, um, and lately everything's felt like a chore to me. Um, I have some major stuff going on in my world that has definitely put me through, um, all of the fields and all of the things and all of the everything. There was, you know, some disconnection from certain energies and people. There was, you know, I'm moving, I'm, I'm my career is up in the air right now Don't even know, you know, and then having to keep myself going and motivated throughout all of that, and knowing that I have two other energies in the house my two daughters, teenagers, that are suffering through this, you know, and I, and, and trying to be the best mom that I can be, while dealing with all of this stuff and not losing my crap. And you know all of the things. And I think that this is like you know all of the things, and I think that this is like you know, like with, with, with energies, and, and, and where we're at. You know, time of year, everything Right. I think that we also, you know, and I've been struggling through this because I'm like, why isn't anything happening? Why isn't anything happening? I'm doing all this work, I'm ready, I don't need to do anything else, I've got this done, I've got this done, I've got this done, and then another upheaval comes and I really think it's you know the universe, you know getting me ready for big, big things. You know I'm being forced to purge and, oh God, do I need to purge? You know, like, oh my gosh, I need to purge, but that all that does is open up the door for new energy and all the new things.
Speaker 1:And you know, I bring up the time of year. This is, this is winter, you know, and if you think about winter, you think about fall. The leaves are falling, the animals are gathering food and everything else, because they know it's not going to be plentiful, and they go and most animals hibernate. During the winter you don't see a lot of activity. There's some animals that are out and about, but bears and all the little mammals and bugs and everything. For the most part they hibernate and they don't start coming out until spring, when it's warm again and they have longer days to where there's more prey and everything else. We're animals, people, we're animals.
Speaker 1:Yep, this time of year is and this is why a lot of people run into seasonal depression is because I feel like and, and you know, agree with me, disagree with me, whatever, but society puts all this pressure on us that January one, boom, boom, boom, let's get it done, let's go, go, go. What can you get done? And really we should be fucking resting right, we should be preserving our body, we should be taking those short days and sleeping longer at night and you know, and, and preparing for the go, go, go of spring, you know, and, and we don't, because of the way our calendar is set and the energy that you know society puts on it and everything else. And it's easy to feel like you're not good enough or you're not doing enough, or or whatever, because the expectations of other people and this, this part, has like really hit me, because it's like I'm a very upbeat person, not very depressed or whatever, normally, but with my new ADHD and everything else, depression has like been now that I'm thinking back prevalent my whole life. I just didn't realize it. You know, there were certain things that I did I wasn't laying down and just like crying or whatever. There was other things that I was doing that show that and I'm learning that about myself. So I have been dealing with depression for a very long time. I've just been dealing, you know, and not realizing it.
Speaker 1:And so I have a very good friend of mine, lindsay. She's dragon queen creations. She is a tattoo artist and one of my dearest friends and she lives out in Florida and she does energy readings too and stuff like that. And so you know, she did a reading for me yesterday and really what it told me was I need to rest, I need to rest, I need to sit, I need to do those things. So I was very proud of myself yesterday.
Speaker 1:Amongst all the packing and the craziness going on in the house and stuff like that, I was like I'm getting my beach chair, I'm putting my bathing suit, I'm going to the beach and I sat there for like three hours by myself and it was everything I needed. It was like 60 something degrees outside. I was in my bathing suit, like out there it was cold, but I was like I was the warmest person on the beach, like I had the sun on me and I was just big old, my big old glasses, and just laying there and just soaking up the sun. I didn't get burnt. I'm a little red on the nose but I have a little color, um, but I felt so much better this morning, oh my God, you guys, and putting your feet in the sand, I felt so recharged, and so I was very proud of myself for doing that, and and I cause, and another thing that I thought about too, because I was beating myself up like what was I like you know that summer, and I was like, oh my God, I was going to the beach like twice a week just to sit and just, and I'm like that I'm missing that. I have and I haven't been sitting in my backyard, and so it was all about reconnecting to nature. You guys, it's so healing. Go get some sun, go get some sun.
Speaker 1:I had headphones on and I and then I'll, I'll tell this part and then and then I'll let you go, but the, the, the cutest thing about yesterday that I realized this morning was so I had made a playlist. You know me and my music. I love making playlists and all that stuff, and so I have a friend that owns a tattoo shop, and it was. They were having a Valentine's day event and I was like, dude, what kind of music are you going to play during this Valentine's event? And so we started joking around. I was like, do you have to have some meatloaf? And you know like all the ballads and stuff. He's like, oh, my God, that'd be amazing. I was like I'll make you a playlist on Spotify. He's like for real. I'm like, yeah, so I made a 17 hour long playlist.
Speaker 2:Wow, wow, that's serious.
Speaker 1:But I had so much fun and in the midst of that I made an additional playlist. It was I don't even know why I made it, but it was just love songs. But there were ones that, like, just spoke to me and so I went to the beach and I've had a really hard time with this lately. Like I can't watch crime TV right now. It stresses me out. I can't. You know certain music. I'm like I feel very topsy turvy right Like I. I'm like which way do I go? Where do I focus? I'm all over the place.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I turned on, so I just put on the short playlist and it made me so happy, not because it was for somebody, but it was love songs to me. That's the way I looked at it this morning. I was like wait a minute, like I forgot that I have to love myself, and those songs like resonated and I was like bebopping along and I was just sitting there enjoying the music, enjoying the view. I could hear the waves a little bit, but it just reminded me that we have to love ourselves first. We're our number one. We have to in order to be able to do all these extra things.
Speaker 1:We have to take the time and love ourselves a little bit and don't feel selfish about it, don't you know or I don't even want to say shouldn't just don't you know like it's. It's, it's one of those things where I've I swear to God, I feel so much better today, you know, cause I'm dragging for like a week and just really trying to figure shit out and get organized and stuff. So I'm making a promise to myself that I have to go to the beach at least once a week and just go, sit for hours by myself and and then be intentional, be in the sun, enjoy it, be dressed for it, you know, be ready. So that's my little snafus of all kinds of fun stuff right now.
Speaker 2:I love it and it's. You know I, I'm really really reflecting on the um disconnect between what the season of winter is kind of designed for, if you will, from a mother nature perspective, and what we have created right for it. And I have several friends who really suffer from seasonal depression and you know, they say it's because of you. Know a lot of things, but one of the things is lack of vitamin D and you know, blah, blah, blah. But when you think about the pressure we put on ourselves right in the midst of that season, to your point, if our pressure starts, new beginnings, yada, yada, you know, make the goals.
Speaker 2:I really want to, like, remind us to think about that again in June, because you know, if we, if we and I was, you were talking to me and I was sitting there thinking to myself like, when do we give ourselves permission to you know, as a species, if you will, to slow down and to rejuvenate? And the answer is we don't. No, we never do. Like there's not a season of the year that feels like the rest and rejuvenate season. It's spring, spring, cleaning, summer. You got to go on vacation, you got to be doing all the things Now fall. Oh, we're getting back into school and you know blah, blah, blah, blah, oh. And then you know, right, as we get a rhythm for that, oh wait, it's New Year's. Now we got to like there literally is no season that we're, and I'm sure there are cultures out there and there are probably places in the world where they do this well.
Speaker 1:But that we are aware of our culture. Our culture is very built in our culture.
Speaker 2:It's always go, go, go and and, and it's only really been in the last maybe five, 10 years tops, where we have celebrated the idea of self-care, celebrated the idea of rest, celebrated the idea of but even that is like make sure you get eight hours of sleep a night, not right? Hey, take the next few months to like do the basics, but don't take on anything new, don't like overextend, don't go to all the things, don't write like if our culture here doesn't make way for it, then how do we make way for it for ourselves? And do it in a way that doesn't make it feel stigmatized, like what is she doing? Why is she being lazy? Why is she over there just doing that? Right? Like it's almost like when you put all the pieces of advice together that you ever hear on, you know, social platforms, it's like that, right, it's the advice of it's okay to say no to stuff and it's okay to do that. Like when you put it all together, right, it's like it's okay to just rest and be for a minute right, well, and I I've always envied the person that has the most simple life and is the happiest.
Speaker 1:not envy, but like, that's where I want to be. I want to have you know like, yes, we want to do all the things and meet all the people and all that stuff, but it's not about fame or fortune, it's about how many people we reach and how many new souls we get.
Speaker 1:Exactly that, yeah exactly that's what it's about, and if we get to travel the world and do all those things and do that, then let's go right, you know but at the end of the day, I would love to have and we've talked about this like a little floral shop and like a little beach town and live the simple life like just be happy, have, have, have, have a partner and and we just do this and I play with plants all day and and create stuff and make things pretty and bring it to people and and just do all those things. So, and I heard something that just totally popped in my head and I got to share it. Um, because I said flowers. Um, I was watching something. I honestly don't know where I saw it, but I remember this like it was like two seconds ago.
Speaker 1:So they were, it was a floral designer, was working with these celebrities or whatever, and they were doing an interview or something. And they were like what's the best stuff to put in the water to keep them going? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. How do we keep them alive? And he stopped them and he just looked at them and he held their hands and he's like flowers are not supposed to last forever, he said. And so it doesn't matter what you put in it, they're going to expire, he goes, but flowers are to bring you to the moment that you see them and fill your, your memory with joy and and the floor, you know it, brings it together. So he's like it's not for you to look at and look at, and look at and look at it's.
Speaker 1:It's that moment in time and I thought that that was so cool, because it is you know because it was a birth of a baby, it was this it was, and then after that they just become in the way and stuff like that, right, um, and we want them to last forever, but but they can't. And so I just thought that that was really cool, because, like every season and everything, there's always change. That's the only thing that's constant, and so we need to be prepared for that Um and then, but also love ourselves in between it.
Speaker 2:So exactly, exactly, yeah, I love that, I think, you know, hopefully, again, that's a lot of just kind of things for our listeners to just kind of reflect on, as we are, like you said, right, we're now, we're smack in the middle of February, January, and I hate to say it because it's been said a million times, but felt like it was a million years long, and we're not out of the woods by any stretch. And, you know, now more than ever, it is important for us to balance Right, like our, you know, more than ever before, it's like our lives were crazy enough. And now, with what's happening in our world yeah, without getting into a political rant, because that's not what we're doing today, but, um, but with what's happening in our world being so terrifying, um, then I feel like, okay, now I need to, and I like made some posts about, like I'm writing to my representatives every week, which I am right, um, but now I need to feel. Now I feel like I need to do more right on a social, from a social perspective, to contribute to the, you know, idea of creating friction and saying, no, this isn't okay. No, this isn't who we are, no, this isn't what we're about on top of an already life that was already crammed full of all the things, right, and so was already crammed full of all the things, right.
Speaker 2:And so, you know, even within that context, like you know, being thoughtful about how we still maintain a balance, because we still, like, I can't do any of those things either if I'm not taking care of myself, if I'm not giving myself a time, an opportunity to rest, if I'm not, you know, sitting with myself and just being with myself, right. So so, yeah, I think this conversation comes at a really good time for all those reasons, because, um, you know, now more than ever, it almost feels like frantic, right, like the frantic need, um, to do the things and get the things done, and um, and yeah, so this is good, it's a good reminder, and, yeah, so this is good, it's a good reminder.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and have fun. Yeah, enjoy time with people that you know you enjoy time with, but, more than anything, get comfortable with being by yourself. Yeah, because I am my own best friend. At this point, you know, I've become my own best friend. I love hanging out by myself. I'm comfortable at home. I don't, you know, it's not any phobia or anything like that, but I just feel calm here and I feel at peace and I can be me and not have to worry about anybody else's energies and everything else, because I get drained. You know, I get drained by being in big crowds with people and stuff like that, and so it's just, it's nice, you know, and and um, yeah, well, and you reminded me, this is, this is going to be tangential.
Speaker 2:So hopefully our listeners are digging the randomness of this conversation. But, um, you know, you reminded me of like I've been. We've been having a lot of conversations, joe and I, lately, with different people, friends and stuff, about our like potential exit plan. Right, like we can't afford to retire in California. We love it here. We can't afford to retire here. So at some point we will have to think about living in a different part of the country. And you know, our kids are spread out all over, our grandkids are spread out.
Speaker 2:So, figuring out, narrowing it down, like where are the places we'd want to visit in the next few years? To figure out where we might want to go, right. But a part of that conversation always turns to like location and like how far you're away from things and you know balance of like wanting to be a part of a community but also wanting space. The older we get, the more we're like we want a couple of acres and we want to just be able to be. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:And I think an epiphany I had in one of those conversations this week was that and it's going to sound so random was that? You know, we've always held a lot of stock and being close to stuff, right, like I, like, work-wise, I can't be more than well I could, but I would like to not be more than 30, 45 minutes from an airport, right, because I travel a lot, but otherwise it's like, well, gosh, we, you know, we want to be, you know, close to a Costco, close to this, close to that, right, like all the basic things that we rely on because we need them. Um, but for the last couple of weeks, like a lot of people, I have chosen not to be a patron at target um reasons and um, and and so even like yesterday, we were driving back from LA and um had to charge the car and there's a lot of target parking lots where you can charge your car, and so we were doing that and Joe's like going into the bathroom, do you want to come?
Speaker 2:And I was like Nope, I can wait, not even going in to use their stupid bathroom, right, which I know some people are gonna laugh at me and be like that's ridiculous, like it doesn't make a difference, but it is not that it does make a difference, right? Like if I, you know, if, if enough of us do that right. My point in sharing that, though, is, as I was sitting there in a car thinking about that, it occurred to me, like you know what, we only feel like we need to be close to a this, a costco, a target of that or that, because we have been, yeah, but like, if we weren't, what would we fill that time with?
Speaker 1:right or who would you provide revenue to a small?
Speaker 2:business. Amen, that too. Yeah, 100 that. But I was thinking more about the amount of time we spend going and and that knowing could even be on Amazon, like it doesn't even have to be physically going. But let's talk about home goods. Doing that Right, we go into stores, just to walk around.
Speaker 2:Imagine the quiet that would be in our lives. Yes, we didn't right, if we weren't so intent on, hadn't built lives and societies around the buy, buy, buy, yeah, that capitalism. Or even, like you said, just to go to shop, just to go to walk around, like, oh my god, what would I do if I didn't do that? And so, literally, I sat in the car yesterday and I read, right, um, so anyway, adding that to this kind of random conversation. But again it comes back around to this idea of like, so much of who we are and how we live our lives has on some level been dictated to us, right?
Speaker 1:So how we create space in our brains to be thoughtful about who we could or we want to be if it wasn't being dictated to us about who we could or we want to be if it wasn't being dictated to us, right, right, yeah, there's, and there's so many of us and, and we all have it, so we're not saying that I don't have this or I don't. You know, like, no, we deal with it on a daily and and, and, whether it's shopping or something else, you know, but it's true, like the, so I so, to be honest, I've stopped looking at, like Instagram and Facebook. Yeah, I was, like, I got so overwhelmed by the stuff that's on there and just the, the shit that is just flying into your face and the algorithm, like I liked one person's thing and then like 30 of the same type of people that are now in my feed and I'm like, ah, like I'm inundated and I feel so blasted in the face with stuff like that. You know, um, what we should buy, what we shouldn't buy. You know this toothpaste versus that toothpaste, didn't you know that this toothpaste can cure cavities and you never need to go to the dentist again here, buy it, put your credit card number in.
Speaker 1:Like it's so crazy, the amount of stuff that is like has access to our psyche, um, and so, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm doing like you know, I'm gonna post pictures. I'll post my little energy readings, but I I'm not scrolling anymore and if I go on there I'm going to post pictures. I'll post my little energy readings, but I'm not scrolling anymore and if I go on there I'm going exactly to the page that I want to see. And that's what I'm going to do because it's overwhelming to me and it drains my energy. So I've taken a little break from that shit.
Speaker 2:Well, I appreciate that so much, jane, and you're inspiring me because I've seen, especially, you know, different times a year, you see it. But recently I've definitely seen a lot of people like I'm taking a break, like can't handle all the stuff on here, I'm just. But in the spirit of what we're talking about, which is, you know, we all have the same 24 hours a day, yep, how we spend every hour is a choice we make. Sometimes, that choice, it feels more like a requirement. I have a job, of course I'm going to be doing my job, but that job is a choice, all the things right. So you're saying what you just said is coupled with.
Speaker 2:I saw a video on TikTok earlier today and the guy was really great. He's like he's some sort of coach, but he was just kind of like, you know, if you're, he was talking about being exceptional and he said being exceptional often is going to equate to being alone, because it means you are doing the thing that is unusual. And he was talking about it in terms of like, doing the thing that is unusual, which is actually doing what you say you're going to do, not being one of the people who say, gosh, yeah, I'm going to. You know he was talking about like you know, young, 20 year olds, and like I'm going to be a, you know, a guitar player in a band, you know, and he's like, but then I look at you and you play Xbox for four hours a day and you practice the guitar once a week, right, like actually saying, doing the things that are going to help you do what you say you're going to do, right, so the couple of that was what you just said, and it makes me think about social media and I, you know, you know people who follow us, they follow me, they know, like I go on, I do all kinds of different stuff, um, but all that takes time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, um, and. And so now, in the spirit of what we're talking about right now, I'm going to think about how I might do my own little experiment of you know, if I didn't do anything on any platform, right, and I, and, and the exception for me will be LinkedIn, because that's a professional thing I do but if I didn't do anything, right, um, and the exception might be hosting some stuff posting even just no, even just posting our podcast.
Speaker 2:And the reason I'm saying that is because and this is kind of drastic, so I'm not committing to it, I'm thinking about it, but because I I think that like you in order to like, it's hard to expect people. That's not what I'm going to say. The analytics play out that if you are not looking at other people's stuff, they're not going to see yours either. Right, like your stuff will, literally. Now, that doesn't mean, don't post it. I could post it, knowing it's going into a void where nobody's going to see it, right, but the truth is people aren't going to see what I post if I'm not looking at other people's things. That's how it's developed. That's how it works.
Speaker 2:So what if I just didn't? Right, like what if I just didn't? And you know, and like one of our daughters, I know she and her husband, every once in a while, they delete them from their phone for a week at a time, just to force themselves not to do the random scrolling right, which is what we tend to do. Which is what we tend to do. Um, so I'm yeah, I'm sitting here playing with the idea of like, what if I just didn't? And the exception, like I said, would be posting our podcast, um, but even that doesn't require a post because technically it's we we post to let people know a new episode's up. That's it, right, everybody goes to other platforms.
Speaker 2:But, um, I'm gonna think about that because I'm just sitting here thinking to myself, like how would my life be different if, for a couple of weeks, I tried it out and I didn't? What would be the ramifications? Like I predict, you know, I might have a more positive affect. I would obviously get other things done because I'm not doing that, and it would force me to go to different places for my news, right, for my information, you know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:So thank you for saying that. Well, yeah, because, like, I was thinking about it for myself is that you know, I go to Instagram for my news and I'm like, like that is not a place to go for news, you know, but that's what we're so used to. And then we take that and we run with it, or then we go do a little research maybe, but it's so superficial and um, and there really is no connection there because these could be. I mean, I get random people trying to be my friend and they have no posts. They have 3000 friends.
Speaker 1:So what are you doing? Are you just looking at people's stuff? Like, what are you doing? I'm not going to, I'm not going to be your friend on Instagram if you have zero posts but a thousand friends. That tells me you're a scammer and I don't have time for that shit. Like I just don't because why I've been scammed before and I'm skeptical on that stuff, but but because I'm very trusting. So it's boundaries with yourself and and I'm just creating new boundaries for myself in the aspect of I know what drains my energy and I know what puts me in a different mindset, and so I just need to stop it.
Speaker 2:So I love that and I, literally, as we're talking, I'm on Facebook creating a little post like that to make it. It's not like a dramatic thing, but most people know you're not dead.
Speaker 2:People know I'm not. It's not like a dramatic thing, but most people know you're not dead. People know I'm not dead, right? So literally just to say I'm going to do a little experiment from now until the end of february to start and see how will my life be different if I'm not, if I'm not on platforms. Well, how would my life be different? Right, like, what are the pros, what are the cons? And I'll come back at the end of two weeks and at least let you know and then from there decide.
Speaker 2:But and I will say you mentioned me on Instagram the one thing I started before our trip that I didn't finish. So now I got to finish it is, um, to your point right about where I'm getting my news. Um, I actually used chat right before we left and I put a prompt in that basically said I want you to give me the top I think I said five. I'm gonna go back and change it to just top news stories of of the day, local to san diego, state and national and international right, all four um of the day, every day. I want you to give me just the factual news and I want you to use sources like BBC and some others that we know are, you know, neutral, then I want you to give me the red interpretation of it and the blue interpretation of it so I know what both sides, if you will, are saying, but I also know the facts. And then, if it if's appropriate, I want you to tell me you know two or three actions I can take to support. Um, whatever the issue is, based on this specific value that I believe that all humans deserve medical care, food, housing and dignity.
Speaker 2:And that's the prompt I came up with and gave it. I came up with and gave it. That's awesome. It did it. And then I said now I want you to. How do I automate this so that it comes to my inbox every day? It told me how to do it. I have to use a different app. That's the part that I'm at. I got to go set it up in a different app and it said by the way, you could also make this podcast style every day if you use this app. So it gave me a different app. So I've got to do finish that this week. Um, but my point sharing that with you and our listeners is that's how I'm going to get my news like because, because everything is colored. We all know that already, um, and and I am so stressed out about everything that's happening right now and everything is so frantic, um, that I need it captured for me in a way that I can consume in one spot, in one place and feel like if there's something I can do, I can do it.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, no, that's that is so good, because and that's a really smart way to use AI, because and one, I didn't even know you could do that. So I learned something today, and I'm sure our listeners are going to learn something new, Cause they're all going to be like what? What the fuck does she just?
Speaker 2:say We'll put the prompt in the notes of the episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's so smart because, again, it's all the noise, right, it's all the craziness that we and we get pulled on emotionally and so we're very reactive instead of responsive. And what a great way to respond to the chaos that's going on right now and saying, hey, just stick with the facts, tell me what's each side and tell me how I can be with these principles. That's awesome, and that's something that I I fucking need to do, because I have trauma with with news. I don't watch the news because of how it was used in my household when I was growing up and I just like, ah, it just. I hear the news and I'm like, ooh, you know. So the fact that you're doing it that way, that's really smart.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so we'll put that prompt in there and I'm not again. You know we got here because you were in a part of our larger conversation about self-care and, you know, resting and giving ourselves the time, et cetera. You talked about like part of that is spending less time on those platforms, and that triggered that thought for me. So you know it's it's. I think we're in the same space that a lot of our listeners are, as I think about kind of wrapping up here. Right, that it's really hard right now, and I do think that we have a responsibility to consume and know what's happening and then to take action. Right, like again, I saw a powerful uh video this morning and it really was about like there is no them. Who's going to take care of this? Right, like a lot of people are like calling out to other leaders and stuff. Yes, of course, but it's going to be us and the us can't be the people who are being targeted. Us has to be the people, frankly, the people who aren't. Yeah um.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's coming for us, go boys. Yeah, so, um, so, anyway, so I I I think that, um, this is a really great way to eliminating some of that noise, is a great way to actually focus on the facts and what's really happening and, more importantly, focus on what I can do, versus just listening to everybody talk about how we all need to do something.
Speaker 1:Um, so, anyway, I like the wider scope and being able to be objective from both sides, because, hey, maybe the side that you sit on is is full of shit on that one and you're like, oh crap, I didn't even know why I asked for it in that way, exactly Right, like I'm willing to admit I'm only seeing what I already believe in.
Speaker 1:I know exactly Exactly Because the algorithm is there and so, if you like something, they're going to keep feeding you that information and you're happy. But that's not how it works Exactly, and and we need objectives and we need you know, we need to see the other side of things Exactly, because that's where hatred is, is bred, and everything else. If you're not willing to educate yourself on the other side and why certain people feel the certain way that they do, or why they do things and whatever, if you don't understand that, you know and again, I've quoted this, or I've said this a billion times but seek to understand and then to be understood, and and and. If you just take the time to understand where somebody else is coming from, it may change your point of view completely.
Speaker 2:Right and it and it, it, it will 100% invite in versus push out, right Like it invites the conversation versus versus.
Speaker 1:Shut somebody down, and now you get a label that you're a hateful person and the other person feels hated and it brews even down. And now you get a label that you're hateful person and the other person feels hated and it brews even more. And that's all fear-based shit they want, they want. Everything is fear-based. Okay, I'm going to. I'm not going to say it, yeah.
Speaker 2:We said we wouldn't get that right.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say namaste.
Speaker 2:But to your point inviting people in, because in my mind, if we're shutting out all the voices that disagree with us, then we can never find, we're never going to grow.
Speaker 1:Right, we can't find that common ground. Yeah, so exactly. So what are?
Speaker 2:the takeaways from today. Takeaways from today Rose is a serial killer you heard it first here and her husband helps. Her husband helps. Wow, and I think for me the big one is like what I am proud of us, because especially right now, it would be easy to not do this.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, Are you kidding me? It would be so easy. It's been easy.
Speaker 2:And I am grateful so easy it's been easy for the last month and I'm grateful for you because this does this brings me joy. This is checking the box of taking care of myself today and doing something for myself today, et cetera, and so I love that we can do that together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that too, and my takeaways are I love that Rose is a serial killer. And what dedication to a relationship.
Speaker 2:I know that's love.
Speaker 1:Is that Steve? Yeah, good job, steve. Way to support your, your wife and her hobbies.
Speaker 2:I love that about you. You're awesome.
Speaker 1:You're awesome, yeah. And two, I am very proud of us as as individuals and because this, this is hard sometimes it's it's hard to meet up when we have so much stuff going on, and I just was like we need to do this, you know. And so I was like we're meeting right, you know, because because we're disappointing. So so I was like we're meeting right, you know because? Because we're disappointing ourselves in a way when we don't because we just love this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're stressed and then I'm like what is she thinking about me? And she's like what is she thinking about me? And blah, blah, blah. She probably thinks I'm a total loser. At this point I'm the worst sister ever. That's what I think.
Speaker 2:No, I just think you're a serial killer. I'm really obsessed with serial killers right now, so everybody's a serial killer.
Speaker 1:Should we start a workshop on serial killing, maybe?
Speaker 2:All right, that's TBD. Tbd, everybody TBD.
Speaker 1:But thank you, you guys, seriously.
Speaker 2:You hear us saying it and it's true, we do this a lot for ourselves. Um, it means um so much to us that you take the time to listen, and it's our intention and our hope that these conversations, um, even when they kind of take these random twists and turns, like today's did um resonate with you, because it's somewhere in one of those twists and turns you go oh, that's me, oh wait, I feel that, oh, wait, right, um, and if that happened for you in this episode, then that's exactly what we intended. So we're grateful for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right you guys All right Listen share, subscribe, do all the things and peace out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bye.
