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This Chicken T-Shirt Subscription Has Hit 1000 Subs (with Jared Latigo)

• Liam Brennan

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On today’s episode of Subscription Box Answers, we are welcoming back Subscription Box Experts member Jared Latigo.

Jared is the founder of The Chicken Bawks, a chicken-themed T-shirt subscription.

He recently hit 1,000 subscribers, and today’s episode is all about what he did to reach that milestone!

I hope you enjoy it.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Subscription Box Answers with your host, liam Brennan. You're no rubbish, no crap. Straight to the point podcast with real, actionable tips, real strategies and insights from the industry which will help you start and grow your own successful subscription box business. You ask the questions, you ask the questions, you ask the questions. Liam gives the answers. It's as simple as that.

Speaker 3:

Welcome back to a brand new episode of Subscription Box Answers. Hope you're having a really good day. Today we have a very special guest. He's returning to the podcast. I think I think he was on maybe it was a year and a half ago, it might have been two years, but got a lot of great feedback around the episode and it is jared from the chicken box. How are you?

Speaker 2:

doing well, man doing awesome. Thanks very much for coming back on the podcast.

Speaker 3:

I really appreciate it. Gerard from the Chicken Box, how are you Doing well, man, doing awesome. Thanks very much for coming back on the podcast. I really appreciate it, and the reason why you're coming back is you recently hit a very impressive milestone in your business you hit a thousand subscribers, so congratulations.

Speaker 2:

Thanks, it feels really awesome to be there finally.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, fair play. I know the amount of work you've put into your business and, yeah, getting to 1,000 subscribers is really impressive. But before we jump into that, for the people who never caught your episode the original episode do you want to tell us a bit about your business?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I do think it was last spring because it's been about a year, and what I remember was we had hit I think we were around maybe 800 subs at that point. But basically the short story. The long story short is I started this business in 2020 with a business partner. I met him right at the beginning of COVID. Of course, everyone knows everything kind of shut down. We became really good friends over text and then we started a business together just a couple months later and he already had this business model in a different niche and then we were like, hey, you have chickens, I have chickens, let's do something fun together. My other job had kind of stopped because of COVID and so, yeah, we just started this up and we actually started in May, but then we launched a subscription in August of 2020. So we skyrocketed then because COVID was a whole different animal when it comes to growing a business and it did really well. We got it to about 1400 subs in just like six months, but then it tanked after that and really weren't able to figure out how to grow the business all the way up until 2023. And so we fast forward there and he basically exited, said I want to run my other business. You take this one. It was a huge gift to me to be able to have something that I was just like wow, this is actually like let's see what I can do with this. Like it's either going to go away because I can't figure out how to run it, or I'm going to turn this into something really cool. So you know a couple of years now that I've been running it on my own.

Speaker 2:

It is a t-shirt subscription box. So, to break that down, we do a brand new design. Um, every single month we send a couple items on a sticker. Uh, process is really streamlined. It's simple. Um, there's high margins in t-shirts and high value in them. Um, and it's for chicken lovers, like people that have chickens as pets and they're obsessed with chickens, and it's just. It's a very, very niche product, very niche audience, and and I think that's one of the reasons that we've been successful is because we've really honed in on our audience. We really know our audience really well and we serve them in a way that we literally have no direct competitor that does exactly what we do so you have pretty much and I hear this all the time you have created a category.

Speaker 3:

in a way, you've created your own category. You're like, instead of swimming in a red ocean where there's a load of different competitors, you niched down, so specifically you went into a blue ocean with no competitors. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2:

I guess. So yeah, there's literally we have a direct. We have a competitor that does a subscription box for chickens, but they do like they don't do t-shirts. So I mean, they'll put a t-shirt in the box occasionally, but it's a bigger box, it has other items in it, whereas ours is just very specific to t-shirts and that's our main item. And then, of course, we do single t-shirts as well, but you know, yeah, we don't have anyone that does it. There's no brand in our industry that does exclusively chicken t-shirts. There's other brands in the industry that do a variety of t-shirts farm related, you know different stuff like that but there's no one that's very specific to what we do. And, yeah, it's, it's uh, I guess, yeah, I guess you could say it's a category in a way it's simply one of the weirdest businesses I've ever heard of.

Speaker 2:

And people. I tell people they're like wait what in a way?

Speaker 3:

in a way it is, but it's very impressive, um, what you've done and that you've actually managed to get it to a thousand subscribers. And I think one of the main like we can talk about exactly how you did it. I think the niche is one of the most important things and we've been talking about it on this podcast. Would you agree with that? Like we were chatting off air there and we were saying if you just went in with a t-shirt subscription and it had nothing to do with chickens and it was just like, oh, we're running, we're running a t-shirt subscription, anybody could buy it, I don't think you would have had much success oh no, I would agree with that for sure.

Speaker 2:

um, yeah, because there's other. I mean there's other chicken t-shirts on Etsy and that kind of stuff. They just don't do this subscription, um. And then there's if you're talking t-shirts, yeah, then you're going to be in competition with, uh, with price on everybody, like, that's pretty much what you're up against, um, because there's a ton of really cool t-shirts.

Speaker 2:

But once you end up, if you're going to do something like a subscription and this is, I truly do believe in the subscription have to make sure that I'm serving that scene, that one person, every single time. And so if I get outside of a specific niche, if you will, if I get outside, like if I were to do any farm related t-shirt, like, anything like that, right, then okay, I might be interested in something with a cow on it, but I'm not interested in something with a goat on it, right? And so I can't do all of those. Because in this particular industry, there's people that have chickens, there's people that are obsessed with goats, there's people that are obsessed with cows, like, and there's all that, right, but there's very few people, there's a lot fewer people that are obsessed with all of those. And so you're gonna, you're gonna end up having somebody who's like oh, I liked one or two of the shirts out of the last six, but I didn't like all of them, you know.

Speaker 2:

And, and so I do think that there's something to be said about being very specific with what you're choosing and then simplifying this is the big thing right here is really simplifying your processes and simplifying what you offer, so that you're not um, excuse me, so that you're not like overcomplicating what the customer is trying to buy, because, you know this, a confused customer doesn't do anything. And so, if I can say, hey, I have a chicken t-shirt and you're going to get chicken items and it's going to come to you every single month and it's only about chickens. Oh, and, by the way, it's a really, really soft, comfortable t-shirt. Those are much, much easier selling points than if I get outside of that yes, yes, it's crazy, it's actually.

Speaker 3:

It's crazy when you put it like that and if somebody was listening there, they may have you may have shared a potential business idea.

Speaker 2:

Gold t-shirts I actually had a friend that did them back during COVID and he of course everything was different in COVID but yeah, he had like 50 subs and I mean he didn't do, he didn't continue with it. But it's a niche it is, you could do it so you hit a thousand subs.

Speaker 3:

How did you do it? How did you make that happen?

Speaker 2:

All right. So I'm going to share some like crazy, incredible wisdom and I know everyone just sit down for this but, like the, the simple fact of the matter is that you have to work on it like consistently, and you just have to do it all the time, like you just can't stop. That's literally it. That's literally it. I mean that's like, that's it right, like, hey, I want to grow this business. Oh, guess what? I'm going to work on this every single day. Boom, like that's it. I mean the, the real, like the real thing that I mean to be. To be very honest here, so I've listened to a lot of your stuff, I've gone through your course, I've learned a lot from you and then, of course, there's a lot of other people that I've, you know, got from here and there and different, picked up different pieces from um, one of the people that really I took off from. Well, so at the end of the year, last year, I spent a lot of time really mastering ads and I took a course from Chase Chapel off of YouTube, um and buying his mastermind course a little expensive, but well, relatively expensive, but really, really great in terms of, uh, the direction that you get and the guidance that you get and all that. And he taught me a lot about um or rather, his team taught me a lot about, like, the structure of ads and how important creative is and all that kind of stuff. And so we did really well last year, um, but I focused on the wrong thing. I focused on a single t-shirt sales because they were getting me a good row as and I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. So I focused on that. I grew the business a lot with that.

Speaker 2:

But then I started running my numbers at the beginning of this year and I looked at it and I was like I'm literally in the same spot this year, subscriber wise, in January. That I was last January, Like we were right around 500. And I was like, okay, there's a problem here because the business isn't actually growing. It's growing off single t-shirt sales, but those people actually don't buy nearly as much as a subscriber. They're not worth as much. So the LTV for my, in my particular case, the LTV for a subscriber is somewhere around $300. The LTV for a single purchase, a single t-shirt purchase, um is somewhere around like $70. So it's like it doesn't make any sense at all for me to go sell single t-shirts, right, and.

Speaker 2:

But I didn't realize that at the time, and so once I started digging into my numbers, I was like I need to focus on subscriptions. So I did um started running subscription ads in February, and I it was because in like mid January, I found this guy named Alex Ramazzi I don't know if you've seen his stuff or not, but I took his offers course and his leads course they're completely free, by the way, you can go get those for free on his website and he taught me so much about literally the dumbest thing that I feel like I should have already known. But the way he puts it in the motivation behind it was like hey, you have to do things consistently and you have to find your constraint in the business and you have to do it every single day without fail, for like two hours every single day, and you need to commit to that for a hundred days. And so this was a big turning point for me. I was like, oh, so if I work on the constraint of my business, which at that time was essentially leads, then I can work on that consistently.

Speaker 2:

I work on my marketing, I bring in more leads. Therefore I get more sales and therefore grow my business. And that's basically what I did was commit myself to a hundred day um challenge where I said I'm going to work on this a hundred minutes a day for a hundred days and I'm going to see where this a hundred minutes a day for a hundred days and I'm going to see where I'm at at the end of it and we're pretty close to a hundred day mark. I think next week is the is a hundred day mark. I'm about a week away from it and I've literally doubled my business in the last hundred days Um, just because I have actually worked on it and focused on it and spent time and and energy um, in that area that I really had constraints that's amazing.

Speaker 3:

That's absolutely amazing. And I do know alex from ozzy stuff. Yeah, I've read both of his book the other offers and the the leads book. I read both of them like catch some of his videos sometimes.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, very, very good information yeah, yeah, I mean, that's, that's literally it. Um, that's why I said it's like this. The simplest, dumbest thing is just like hey, you have to work on it every single day and that's it. And when you do like that's, what you're going to get is the results. But you know, I'm I'm like, I'm a not in general, I'm not a very consistent person, but I realized that a lot of people are not that way.

Speaker 2:

In fact, most people are not that way, and one of the things he says in one of the videos that really stuck out to me was like once you get past that like two week mark, that's when the work really starts, because most people can start something, especially as entrepreneurs, we're really good at starting things and you know, we can work on it for two weeks and we can be excited about it for two weeks, but then after that window, it's like, eh, this isn't that much fun anymore, or this is really hard, and so like, let me go do this thing over here, and. But we get distracted, and so, like I just had to tell myself I'm not starting anything else, I'm not doing anything else until this business is, you know, a $10 million business. And then, when it is. Then I can start looking at something different, because I'll have plenty of money to work with.

Speaker 3:

It's a great way to look at it and yeah, I agree with you, like, after the initial motivation wears off, then it's all about discipline and basically enforcing yourself to do sometimes boring things over and over again to grow your business. I've said that about growing the subscription box many times. It's like a lot of the time it's actually boring enough growing it, but it's just sticking at it and repeating the stuff that works over and over again. I think a big mistake people make is especially when it comes to marketing. They try, maybe run some ads and they don't work straight away and then they stop and they may not do anything again with the marketing, maybe for three weeks or four weeks, and then they try again and it doesn't work and they stop.

Speaker 3:

But the right way to look at it would be it actually takes real skills to be able to sell things online. It's not, it's not easy like and it's definitely possible, but it's not easy for a beginner just to jump in and be like. It's very rare for somebody to jump in and be able to write ads immediately and just be able to sell things online. It takes time to develop your skills and you get that from repeating the boring stuff over and over again, exactly how you put it there yeah, I mean, and that's just.

Speaker 2:

You know, creative is is a, is a thing where it's like super repetitive, I guess, and in in a lot of ways like I've already done so many different reels and is a thing where it's like super repetitive, I guess, and in a lot of ways I've already done so many different reels and different angles of that reel.

Speaker 2:

And then I look at it and I'm like these are literally all saying the exact same thing, but the fact is that there's so many people that haven't seen them yet. And so I get people that comment on my ads and stuff and they're like, oh my gosh, I'm just hearing about this. This is amazing. And it's like it makes you realize that, yeah, I put it out there and it might've had, you know, 50,000 impressions, but that's like nothing, like that's literally nobody you know. And the fact is that I've already done so many iterations of these ads and I feel like I've already said everything I can say, but I haven't said everything because not everybody's seen it and nor has it been done in a way where there's enough people that have seen it, where I've been able to make modifications to improve, like the hooks and that kind of stuff. And one thing that I've learned really recently and this is getting a little bit into the details of things, but like reels are working great for us, right, and so I'm doing like roughly like one minute um ads, and so I will go, I'll shoot different things.

Speaker 2:

And then I had two ads the other day, um and I. I had my designer put them together and I, at the beginning of it there's like three or four seconds Um, and I did two different scenes. So one scene is like me flipping through my closet and it's like hey, if you want your closet to look like this, um, you know, and it's showing all the chicken t-shirts and it's like, then check out what I've got here. And then the second version is a um, uh, oh, it's a.

Speaker 2:

It's a video of like a rooster crowing and it's like if you, you know, are obsessed with chickens, then we've got the perfect subscription box for you. And so like that's the two hooks. And the rest of the video is exactly the same. There's nothing, there's literally nothing changes. I just copied it. And the one with the showing the rooster and talking and saying hey, this is for you, um is do is like outperforming the other one, like by levels, and so that hook is so important. And I think people don't know that. I literally think that those of us that are not super great, like you said, think that those of us that are not super great, like you said, novices to marketing, or really don't understand marketing or psychology, or just really aren't good at marketing yet don't realize how important that hook is and how vital that first couple seconds is, particularly in a reel, but also in, you know, copy and that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3:

Yes, we discovered that a while back where and the hook you can bet, like if the body of the ad basically converts, you can duplicate it really quickly by just coming up with different hooks and literally putting it on the front of the ad and you can get a lot of mileage out of it that way. And back to like people early into marketing, like it'd be like me and you like I don't know if you do this, but it'd be like me and you going I don't know if you do this, but it'd be like me and you going oh, we're going to go out and we're going to play tennis, and if the two of us never played tennis before, we'd probably be absolutely terrible. Yeah, then like. But if we're the next day, if we came out, go or playing tennis, we're playing tennis, and like, for the whole summer we went to tennis camp and we kept playing tennis every day. By the end of the summer we wouldn't be professionals now. We'd be a lot better at it. It's like anything you have to have the skill.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's just the thing and this is another Alex Romanzi tip here is be willing to suck at something. When you first start, we have this weird thing in in us. I don't know everybody does, but I do like we think that we should be good at something immediately, or we think that we should be good at something after we've done it two or three times, and that's just not the case.

Speaker 3:

Like no, that's not the case for anybody for any skill, not even marketing literally right, it takes practice and that's that's absolutely normal and for anybody, for any scale. Not even marketing literally right, it takes practice and that's that's absolutely normal and for anybody, and they take. What's really great about your story is you obviously you're going out and you're getting information. You've done my course. You listen to this podcast. You've done another course. Listen to alex hermosi. There's other people who are talking about too but you actually put it into practice. And a mistake people can make is they do a lot of courses and they take a lot of information because there's a lot of information out there, but when it comes to actually putting it into practice, they struggle or the novelty wears off and they give up after a couple of weeks and then try something else.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think there was something that I found one time. It was a video somewhere and he gave like 12 steps to success or something and literally the first one was like follow instructions, like that's it.

Speaker 3:

It's like because we, we do, we have so much information and it's like if you just follow the dang instructions, then someone's done this and it'll work so on the tactical side of things for actually that was really helpful, by the way, and I think that is really going to help a lot of people and listening to this but on the tactical side of things, for hitting the a thousand subscribers, what, what were you doing? Was there any offers you were doing that don't very well, any kind of emails, what, like? What kind of budget were you running on your ads?

Speaker 2:

because people, people love to hear that stuff behind the scenes yeah, so, uh, yes, there were things um to to answer that, and basically the biggest thing, like I said, was like being consistent with what I chose to do, the offer that I had we do a free t-shirt, a free bonus t-shirt with their first subscription box, and so it was basically two shirts, your first month. We've actually run that offer for I guess it's been for a couple of years now. It's not a new offer, but what I looked at and I talked with. So here's a tip If you want information from experts, one way to get it for free is to go sign up for all these people who you find like hey, I think this person can help me sign up for their free consultations, because most people do it, and you can get like a call with somebody for like 20 minutes, right.

Speaker 2:

And so then what you do is you talk to them and you say hey, here's what I have. Like, give me some ideas of what you think you know, like, tell me where I can improve my landing page. You know, tell me where I can improve my email flow. You know, tell me blah, blah, blah, right, okay. So, because these people, what they're trying to do is, first of all, most of them are like you. They've been successful, they want to help people and so they're not going to be mad at you if you're just trying to get a couple little tips from them. And then they also have somebody in the top of their funnel now that, like, they've given some trust and so maybe at some point you come back and you buy their bigger thing right. But but like, if somebody doesn't buy your mastermind doesn't mean you're broke. You know, that's no not at all right, exactly.

Speaker 2:

So I think that sometimes there's fear of like oh, I don't want to waste this person's time. You're not wasting their time. They want to help people. That's why they do it Right.

Speaker 2:

And so what I did was I talked with I've probably talked with I don't know a dozen 15 different people like over the last couple of years, of just these free like consultations, and I got a lot of great information to the point where I was able to come, come to the fact that my conversion rate is good, my website converts Well, my email flows are. There's not much you can do with it. I even talked to your, your friend, gary, and he looked at my flows and stuff and he was like, I mean, I don't really know what else you would do, like you had to test some stuff, but I, there's nothing that I see. That's blatantly obvious. You know what I mean. Yes, so, like, once I looked at those things and I saw that all of these pieces of my funnel were functioning the way that they should be or, to some level, like they're doing their job on a small scale. So what is my constraint and this is what I go back to learning the constraint of the business. My constraint was I just didn't have enough people coming in, which I knew. But once I learned that, hey, if I don't have enough people coming in, I have to do this consistently, that's where everything changed for me. And so, once I figured out all of those pieces, then I went to the constraint, and the constraint was leads, and so that's when I went down the Alex path and I was like, okay, I got to learn how to do leads, I got to learn how to sell Right, and so then I focused heavily on the a hundred minutes a day for a hundred days, and I have not done two hours every single, uh, every single day, but I, over the course of any given week, have definitely worked on this eight to 10 hours, for sure, marketing wise.

Speaker 2:

And so the point being is that that means that I have spent a very substantial amount of time working very specifically on ads and on emails, which emails is something that I need to to work on. Now. I've kind of focused a lot of that time on on ads, but creatives, uh, creative hooks, um, you know all the pictures, like videos, like different things like that that I'm going to use for creative, and so I spent a substantial number or amount of energy on that and that was my focus because I knew that was my constraint. And so once I've done that, by shooting new video, creating new hooks, you know I have a document of just like tons of ads and copy and different things that I've, you know, written out um scripts that I've written for videos. Some of them have done some of my habits, um different variations of those videos, different variations of ads of those videos, different variations of ads.

Speaker 2:

And you know, now that I've got some ads that work, I'm going back to my designer and I'm like hey, swap this t-shirt out, leave everything else, just change the t-shirt. Hey, take this video and put this three seconds at the beginning of it and let's do that for these. You know, let's do that five times. Here's five new hooks, right. And so now I'm starting to get like repurpose some of my creative, but in in different angles and different perspectives, so that this ad that worked with this t-shirt well, it might work with this t-shirt for these customers. And so now I've got these variations that I'm starting to test, and that's been the biggest thing is literally just staying focused on the, on the marketing and the creative and the constraint, the leads, so that I can actually move forward and grow the business.

Speaker 3:

It's amazing. Thanks for sharing so much detail around that, really really helpful. So what is your goal with this company? I think you mentioned a few minutes ago that you want to take it to 10 million. Is that your ultimate goal? 10 million a year?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I mean, yeah, 10 million sounds great. I don't know. I haven't done the projections enough to be honest with you of what it would take to get there and then what it would be worth. You know, in that amount of time if I'm growing at a, you know, 15 or 20 percent per month rate or whatever it is.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, I mean generally the goal is hey, can I sell this thing for $10 or $15 million in three to five years? Amazing. I have no doubt you will get a big exit from this company with the amount of effort and time you've put into it and everything you've done to master your marketing. So for the people listening at home, they may be running their business a while or they may just be new to subscription boxes.

Speaker 2:

What one piece of advice you will give them. I mean, I think we've talked about it quite a bit here. I mean, really, the biggest thing is find the constraint in your business. Every business has one, and you know, the saying goes there's a devil at every level, and wherever you're at you've got one. And so that's the constraint, and you know you, once you kind of figure that out, um, then put all of your I don't want to say all of it put the majority of your energy and time into it, because, like with me, I'm still nowhere near where I want to go. So it's like, hey, now that I've gotten to this point, I can see things differently.

Speaker 2:

And you mentioned this in yours like everything really starts to change after a thousand, and you don't know that until you get there. And then, once you get there, you're like, wow, I have a lot more cash to work with, I have a lot more research to work with, and it just changes, you know. And so you start to look at things and you're like I could do so much more now. And and then you get this motivation and you get this like momentum and you're like I don't want to stop, you know, because it's not just about, like, the amount of subscribers and money and that kind of stuff. It's about all the things that I that allows you to do, um, not only from a business standpoint, but from a personal standpoint, like what, what, what can I? What can I give to you? Know what? What do I care about that I could donate to you? Know what do I? What could I do for my family? You know what kind of experiences could I give them? You know that, and you start to see that, not that 1,000 subscribers means that I have millions of dollars to do whatever I want, but it gives me an opportunity to look and see what that could look like. And sometimes, before you get there, you really don't know. If you've never really had money which I've never really had a lot of it, which I've never really had a lot of it you don't really understand how easy it is when how much easier it is I guess is the better term when money is an issue, you know. But I do think there's always going to be an issue, there's always going to be a constraint somewhere, and so I think the advice here is find that constraint, work on that and and my, my advice would be set, set a set time for you.

Speaker 2:

I did a hundred hundred days, um, and I bet my wife. I was like hey, um, if I do this for a hundred days, I'm going to give you a thousand dollars at the end of it. And she was like she was like why? And I was like because I need a um, I need a goal and I want us both to win. You know, it's not, if I don't do this for a hundred days, I'm going to pay you a thousand, cause if I don't do it for a hundred days, I probably won't have an extra thousand. But but if I do it for a hundred days and I'll have an extra thousand and I can give it to you, you know. And so she was like all right, whatever. So I just said something to her the other day and then she was like wanting to buy something and I was like well, we're almost done with our hundred days and I'll be able to give you a thousand dollars. She was like oh, we're still doing that. I was like well, yeah, the business is still growing. That's brilliant.

Speaker 3:

And that really, really insightful stuff, and I think sometimes we forget about that. That really, really insightful stuff, and I think sometimes we forget about that. We're talking about business and getting people in and growing our revenue and stuff. The business is really a vehicle to give yourself a better life. That's really all it is, and you summed it up there absolutely perfectly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

I do think that I don't know I'll'll put it this way too Like I won't say everyone can do it, because the fact of the matter is that not everyone will do it. Well, okay, I think everyone has the potential that if you're, if you're in a business and you've gotten to this point and you you know you're listening to this and you have a business that's, you know, functioning and that kind of stuff, yes, you can do it. But it doesn't mean there's not going to be drastic changes that have to be made and in some, in some case, there may be like hey, I have too much going on, I need to simplify things. Hey, I have, you know, there's not enough margin in my, in my business, so that business can't grow to the level that it needs to grow to unless I make these changes.

Speaker 2:

So some of it's going to be more difficult to do Like you're going to have to cut things you don't necessarily want to cut. You're going to have to make changes, raise your prices in ways you don't necessarily want to cut. You're going to have to, you know, make changes, raise your prices in ways you don't want to Like. It's just, it may be harder, but I do think that if you're someone who's an entrepreneur, you really want to succeed, you believe in your product and you've gotten a glimmer of this is going to be accepted by the market, then I think that there are things that you can do. It just might be difficult or more difficult than someone else, so I just think that it's an opportunity for pretty much everyone that's in this position to be able to really really succeed and really have a really successful business, provided the correct things are done, and some of those are just really difficult.

Speaker 3:

Thanks very much for sharing that difficult. Thanks very much for sharing that and thanks very much for today's episode. We'll definitely have to bring you back if you're up for it at some point again and in the future. If anybody wants to reach out to you, where can they find you?

Speaker 2:

uh, right now, jared at the chicken boxcom um, it it's spelled B-A-W-K-S and that's probably the. I mean that's my primary email, so y'all are welcome to to email me there. Um, yeah, and if I can help in any way, I mean happy to. But, like I said, these other guys stuff, if you're a part of any of his like, check his stuff out. Um, you know Alex Ramazziazzi on youtube. Uh, cody sanchez is another one that I've looked at. She's fantastic, um, from a business standpoint. So, yeah, there's a lot of resources, but I mean, if you need anything, feel free to reach out thanks very much and thanks everybody who listened to this week's episode.

Speaker 3:

I hope you enjoyed it as always. If you have a question, you want to answer it on the show. Head to SubscriptionBoxResourcescom. Join the free Facebook group and post your question there. See you next week.