Doing Life with Ken and Tabatha
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Doing Life with Ken and Tabatha
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Ready to stop making resolutions that fizzle and start setting goals that actually change your life? Ken and Tabatha dig into the difference between hype and habits, laying out a practical, faith-forward way to plan your year with clarity, courage, and consistency. We talk about why most resolutions collapse—no strategy, no steady will, too much emotion—and how to replace them with God-aligned goals backed by action steps, Scripture, and a plan you hold loosely while trusting God to direct your steps.
We get specific about what keeps you on track. Think written targets that focus your faith, goals that act like guardrails in a noisy world, and a morning you master by starting the night before. You’ll hear simple, proven tips: create a wind-down routine, protect your bedroom as a sleep sanctuary, shut down screens, journal, read the Word, and set out tomorrow’s cues so your decision is made before your feelings show up. We also cover wake-up motivation hacks, new-workout grit, and the daily rhythms that build a resilient soul—time in Scripture, prayer, worship, and practicing God’s presence beyond the quiet time.
If your heart carries “goal fatigue,” this conversation aims to restore it. We normalize obstacles, celebrate the wins that did arrive, and share stories of long-delayed breakthroughs that finally bloomed. The message is steady and hopeful: set your will, make a plan, pray it through, and don’t quit. Faith needs a target; your goals can be that target. Subscribe for more faith-and-life tools, share this with someone setting new goals, and leave a review to help others find the show.
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December Reset And Replays
Ken ClaytorHey, what's up, everybody?
Tabatha ClaytorHey everyone.
Ken ClaytorWelcome to Doing Life with Ken and Tabitha. Hey, this is a real special month. It's December, y'all.
Tabatha ClaytorIt's Christmas.
From Resolutions To God Goals
Ken ClaytorIt's Christmas time, and I know how much you love Christmas. I know how much you love Christmas because we get to celebrate the birth of Jesus, and Jesus is the reason for this whole season. Yes. And so we like to do something different in December. We kind of take a step back and we recalibrate and we get ready for the new year. And we're going to have some fresh content coming for you on January the 1st. This is our miracle year, our miracle season. And so 2026 is going to be amazing. But now what we want to do is just kind of go back and show you some of our favorite episodes from the past. So check this out. I know statistically that 80% of New Year's resolutions do not work. By February, people will have fallen off. And that's why we're not calling it setting resolutions. We're saying setting God goals. And and do you know what the difference is? Why do you think that resolutions don't work?
Tabatha ClaytorUm probably because we get excited about the new year, everything that's going on. We get excited and fall in love with the idea of a new us and a new beginning. And we can plan for the goal or the, you know, like if I want to lose weight, I can plan for like, yay, I'm going to lose weight. And by the time summer comes, you know, I'm going to have a bikini body or I'm going to do this, like that's the goal. And we fall in love with that. But I don't think we plan for the process that it takes to get.
Ken ClaytorSo we see the promise, but we don't understand the process. Yes. And what we've learned is that every promise has a process. I would say also the reason that resolutions don't work is number one, they don't have a strategy with them.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh.
Willpower, Emotions, And Scripture
Ken ClaytorSo every goal needs action steps. So you need things that you're going to do every single day, and those are disciplines to accomplish the goal. Yes. And number two, the reason that they don't work is because many New Year's resolutions are founded on emotionalism. And I feel like this is a time of the year. And oh my God, it's going to be a new year and new me. But emotions go up and down depending upon what's happening in your life. And what you have to do is set your will. Now, the human will is one of the most strongest things that God has given you. So you have a soul which is your mind, your will, and your emotions. And the Bible says this way I lay before you life and death, blessings and curses. It says, choose this day life so that you and your seed can live. What it's saying is that God has given us the ability to set our will to do something, meaning that I might not feel like going to the gym, but I said that I was going to do it. I might not feel like going back to school, but I said I was going to do it. I might not feel like praying, but what my feelings got to do with it, I understand the benefits of connecting with God. And I think there's something about setting our will with action steps.
Tabatha ClaytorIt's so good. I agree. Yeah. And you know, God is, he's not a man that he should lie, nor the son of man that he should repent. And I love it what you say, like life and death is before us, choose life. We have a choice in it. But I think some of us, we don't know the character of God and we don't know God enough to know that he's not gonna lie. Right. He is not a liar. And sometimes we can say things and we make ourselves a liar. We say, Yeah, we're gonna do that. And but we don't do it because of how we feel, or well, I just, you know, whatever. And we think that God is like us, but he's not like us. Right. Sometimes I tell my kids, you know, whatever, and then I say, Well, you know what? I changed my mind, whatever. And I'll tell them I changed my mind. They said, But you said, you know, God is not like that. Right. Right. God is going to say it, and if he said it, he'll make it good and can make it good.
Ken ClaytorYeah. Um, I also think when it comes to um what we call goal setting, I would want people to know is God wants us to have a plan. You know, we've learned this over the years. But what I've learned also is to hold our plan loosely in comparison to his plan. So there's a scripture that says that like basically we have a plan, but the Lord establishes our steps or something like that. Man plans that God directs. Yeah. So we are to have a plan. We should have a five-year plan. We should have a 20-year plan. We should have a life plan, but we don't make our plan an idol, meaning that I'm holding my plan loosely because God's plan for us is always better than our plan. And many times we won't get his plan until we have established our own. There's something about God that he waits on us to do the natural before he provides the supernatural. And so planning is important. I I just I say that because there's some people that's like, well, it ain't that big a deal. Kesara Sarah. Whatever will be, will be. And they're kind of floating through life and they're gonna float their way to no retirement. They're gonna float their way to the end of their life where they don't have enough money for, you know, to take care of their needs. They're gonna float their way where they haven't made the right investments, they haven't sold, their family's not being saved. And I think that it's okay to have a plan. Matter of fact, I would say that it's almost godly to have a plan that we need it.
Tabatha ClaytorGod says, write the vision and make it plain. God says the walk by faith and not by sight. How are we supposed to walk by faith on, you know what I mean? Like it's like whenever I set goals and you know, and make plans for our future, it's like me writing out my faith on paper. And not just me, you can see my faith, my kids can see my faith. It's like this is where I'm going, God. And I'm gonna follow this plan, lest you say other words. It's like this is my proof.
Faith Needs A Clear Target
Ken ClaytorYeah. Well, when you first said that, I was trying to say what's the correlation between write the vision, make it plain, and walk by faith and not by sight. But I think the key is that all faith needs a target. Yeah. So you can say that you're walking by faith, but faith needs a target. I'm believing for this healing. I'm believing to be debt-free. I'm believing to be married, I'm believing for to be cancer free. Like all faith needs a target. So saying I walk by faith, well, I just believe in something. I just believe God's gonna do it. Well, what's he gonna do? Yeah. What do you believe in?
Tabatha ClaytorAnd we believe, and when you have it, you know, when you have your goals, it's written down, right? I sow seed toward it. I sow my words toward. I begin to pray toward it. Like we are intentional, aiming toward that target.
Ken ClaytorYou know what else I've learned about goals over the years is that goals help keep us on track. It help us stay on track. Oh, yeah. And I just feel like for me, let me just say my life, I have so much going on that it is easy for me to get busy with good things that ain't God. There are so many good things coming my way right now.
Tabatha ClaytorI am.
Goals As Guardrails Against Distraction
Ken ClaytorAnd the trick is to determine what's good and what's God's God. We are living in a time where distractions are the norm. I'm talking about distractions are everywhere. People need you for this, this, this problem, this going on. But if you have a goal and they are written down, those goals actually help you get stay on track so that you don't get sidetracked. There's so many things pulling for your attention. But no, that that is not my concern right now. I got a goal. Yeah. That I'm trying to accomplish. It's like guardrails. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is anything what we've learned about goal setting is that who he who fails the plan also plans to fail. Come on. Right? And so every good army needs a plan. Every good business needs a plan. Come on, every good team needs a plan. It's what we call a game plan. Come on, every good husband needs to come up with a plan. Where is your family going? What are the goals for this year? What do you want to accomplish? I believe every person of God, we need a plan. This is our life plan. These are our goals. And so it's interesting. The Bible talks about this some, and I'll read a scripture and uh let's see what it says. Proverbs 21, 5, it says that the plans of the diligent lead to profit as surely as haste lead to poverty. What sticks out to you from Proverbs 21 and 5?
Tabatha ClaytorI mean, sometimes we can sit around on the couch and saying, Well, I, you know, I hope for this and I hope for that, and I wish I could, you know, I wish I had a better job and I wish my business was more prosperous, and I wish, you know, none of that stuff is gonna happen. Like you have to get up and do something.
Ken ClaytorYeah. The plans of the diligent, it leads to profit. That connects plans to your profitability, or plans to your success, or plans to your advancement, or plans to your increase. Without a plan, there's not gonna be much profit. Wow. Every business owner knows that, every coach knows that. As people of God, we gotta know that that plans are important.
Tabatha ClaytorAmen.
Ken ClaytorUm, for those of you all who want to master your morning, this is it. Number one, the next day starts the night before. Yeah, the next day starts the night before. Can you speak to that?
Tabatha ClaytorIt's all about preparation. We cannot, like you just said, go to bed at 12 1, 2 o'clock.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
Diligence And Profit In Proverbs
Tabatha ClaytorWe cannot stay up playing games on our phone, um, scrolling through our social media, watching TV. We can't stay up that late and then expect to wake up the next morning and be on point and master our morning and just skip through the day like we would like to. So we're setting ourselves up for failure.
Ken ClaytorYes. How you go to bed. What are the what are some practical keys that you would give people about how to go to bed? Correctly.
Master Your Morning: Night Prep
Tabatha ClaytorI would say, first of all, plan it. Everyone's day, everyone's life is different. We all have different seasons of lives, you know, uh of our lives. And so, first of all, plan it and be realistic with yourself. Um, I'll just say, you know, I like to plan my day, you know, like the the day before. So at night before I go to bed, I usually like after dinner, you know, whatever. There is a time for me, it's like seven o'clock. I s if I can at seven o'clock, I am un I am like unwinding for the day, or you know what I mean? I am like beginning to take a shower, I'm beginning to talk to the kids about going to school the next day, I'm making plans for the next day. Um, I like to do things like make sure that my sleep is quality because if you don't have quality sleep, well, you can Yeah, it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard to master your morning.
Ken ClaytorAnd that's a whole nother segment that we probably should do about how to have sweet sleep. The Bible's promised sweet sleep. There are so many people that are not having sweet sleep. And that rolls over into your day. And some of those are medical issues, and you need to go to the doctor and get some help, and some of it's how we approach sleep or how we cast our cares to the Lord. There's like a mix of stuff that that's the problem. But I feel like God's promise that's a promise in the Bible for the believer that he gives his beloved sweet sleep. So I want to go after that. But anyway, yeah. So what else do you do?
Tabatha ClaytorSo the the quality of your sleep, like for me, I make sure that our bedroom stays our bedroom. Like personally, I don't like to eat in my bedroom. Um, I don't like to do, I don't do work in my bedroom. You know, I have the the ability to keep my bedroom like a sanctuary like that. Um, I make sure that my bed sheets, my pillows, everything's fresh and inviting for me to get in my bed. Okay. Um, it feels good. So, like where I lay my head, I'm like, okay, this is gonna be good. It feels good when I get in bed at night. Okay. Um, all of those things are just setting me up to enjoy.
Ken ClaytorWell, there's some things that I would uh recommend as well. I mean, you can do stuff like set your clothes out the night before, especially if you're gonna have an exercise routine in the morning. You can set those clothes out, your work clothes out, um, preparing your spirit. Um, a lot of people have nightmares and they have dreams because of what they watch. So there can be a time where you turn off devices and you more read scripture, read a book. Um, you try to get your heart and mind to settle down, I think would be huge.
Tabatha ClaytorYeah.
Ken ClaytorUm thinking through the next day, this is what I have to do on the next day. So really kind of meditating on what that looks like. Yeah, journal. This is a good time to journal. I think that those disciplines at night actually affect the next morning and the next day.
Tabatha ClaytorI like to do things at night. So um at least during the weekdays, um, I have like weekends like um my weekend is Thursday, Friday. So Thursday and Fridays, if I can stay up, I go try to watch TV and like well, watch Netflix or do something like to watch TV before I go to bed. But I've disciplined myself in the evenings on the weekdays where I'm waking up early and taking my kids to school and going to work and things like that, to like, I don't watch TV before I go to bed. I'll read a book or I'll do like a something with my mind, a puzzle, you know, a crossword puzzle or like a Sudoku puzzle, something like that. Because it just allows me to relax. Um, I'll read the Bible, it allows me to take in God's word before I sleep. Uh, things like that are I feel set me up for success and allow me to be disciplined. That's the time where I might read that book that I've been wanting to read. It might take me 10 weeks because there's 10 chapters and I read a chapter a day, um, but you know, or a chapter a night, but you know.
Create A Sleep-Smart Bedroom
Ken ClaytorOkay. Number two, the second key um would be to get the proper amount of sleep, and we've kind of hit on that a little bit. Anything else stick out to you about that?
Tabatha ClaytorI know. Just know yourself and don't be Yeah, know how much sleep you need. Yeah.
Ken ClaytorYou know, I know how much I need.
Tabatha ClaytorI need 13 hours.
Ken ClaytorDo you really?
Tabatha ClaytorI feel like I do.
Ken ClaytorI don't, but I'm just how many hours do you think you need, really?
Tabatha ClaytorI mean, I get eight. I you know, I try to get eight. I probably at least need ten. I think I at this point in my life, I think I need ten.
Ken ClaytorWow. You're not getting ten.
Tabatha ClaytorI know.
Ken ClaytorYeah. You have to make some serious adjustments. That's a lot of sleep.
Tabatha ClaytorI might need ten for a week in a row, maybe two weeks, and then I'd maybe I'd be restored.
Ken ClaytorI don't have no idea.
Tabatha ClaytorI have no idea.
Ken ClaytorLike a baby needs like ten, twelve hours of sleep. That's how much.
Tabatha ClaytorCalling me a baby.
Ken ClaytorNo, I'm just I'm just I'm just pointing out some things. All right.
Tabatha ClaytorMaybe I'm exaggerating. That's how I feel though. I feel like, look, give me ten hours, I will sleep all of those hours.
Ken ClaytorHow important do you think it is to wake up at a certain time?
Tabatha ClaytorUm I think it's I don't know. I mean, I for me it's important.
Ken ClaytorIt depends on what you want to accomplish in the morning, right?
Tabatha ClaytorYeah.
Ken ClaytorI think it's huge. Okay. In context too, like we have kids, and right now it's an everyday battle to get them out to school on time. And every single day, they forget their lanyard, they forget their lunch, they forget their breakfast, you know. That's how some adults are.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
Routines, Reading, And Wind-Downs
Ken ClaytorBecause they're not saying, I'm gonna be up by a certain time. So I think it's important. If you want to accomplish, if you want to spend time with God, if you have an exercise routine, stuff like that, stuff you want to do to master your morning, you gotta get up.
Tabatha ClaytorYou gotta get up. And I think there's some things you can do too, there's like hacks, brain hacks, motivation hacks um that you can do to make yourself wake up in the morning. Um, there's something that you can look forward to. I mean, if you if you look forward to eating, like for me, um, I don't, I try to do intermittent fasting and I find that I fat I sleep better if I have an empty stomach. Okay. And so I a lot of times I don't eat dinner. I'll just skip that meal. So in the morning, I wake up, I'm hungry. And so I'm laying in the bed, like, uh, do I press snooze? Or no, let me get up because I'm about to eat those eggs and bacon. You know, like it, it's motivating for me at certain points. Um, and I think there can be points of motivation for each person, whatever motivates you. Today I was actually motivated by my workout because I was excited to get up and like, you know what? Oh, it's day three of my workout. It's day three of my workout. Let me hurry up and get out because I want to make sure I have enough time to get that in. And that was my motivation for today.
Ken ClaytorYeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, we both just recently started a new workout, and it feels like um, you know, when you start anything new, it's hard. And it's almost like that's not what my body wants to do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
How Much Sleep Do You Need
Ken ClaytorBut I've already set myself that I don't care what I feel like you getting up. Yeah. And I mean, I don't want to oversimplic, make it oversimplistic, but like sometimes when you know what you got to do, set yourself and get up. You got authority. Like, no, I know you're tired, but you're getting up and you're gonna go in that gym and do what you gotta do. If you want to like to live at a nine, you gotta have daily time in the word. Daily time in prayer and daily time in worship. So it's not to minimize your corporate time. You need corporate and private time, these two things together. And so back in the day, I started with an hour with God every single day. You don't have to do an hour, but everybody got 15 minutes. If you got to start somewhere, give God your first 15 minutes. Worship, prayer, study. But if you you you need time, just like you eat every day, you need to eat God's word every day. It is for spiritual nourishment. So you got this, the, you know, your your public worship, but then you got your private where you are going home and studying yourself and showing yourself approved. And so those two things are here. Anything else you would say if you want to live at a non beast?
Tabatha ClaytorUm, I I think um read the word, like you just said. I would say worship. Um, I grew so much in God when I learned to worship. Yeah, and that is as simple as just going to a room when there's no one else there, a bathroom, a closet, your bedroom, wherever you can get to, get your iPhone, your um Android, turn on a song, pick a worship song and sing it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
Tabatha ClaytorSing it to the Lord. So good. And you'll start out, it'll just be a song. Yeah. But it the more you do it, you will learn how to worship and you'll access the presence of God, and it's addictive. Yeah, you want more and more and more of his presence.
Wake-Up Times And Motivation Hacks
Ken ClaytorWell, that's one reason that we created this living at a non-devotional here, because we go through the soap method of studying the Bible where we give you a scripture, an observation, application, and prayer. And for 60 days, we've written um, you know, a certain scripture and then some information about the scripture, and then gives you space in here to kind of write down what God's speaking to you. And this is simply a tool, a tool that will help people. Now, of course, you can go and read a chapter a day, or you can read the whole Bible in a year, but this is just a tool that will help people have disciplined time with God. Absolutely. But here's the here's the third thing, and then we'll move on to the next scripture. Because it's not just spending private time with God and going to church. Here's the third one is practicing his presence all day. That's huge for a relationship with God. Because some people like, well, I gave God 15 minutes in the beginning, but what about the next 20 hours of your day? I gave God 30 minutes in prayer, but have you prayed the rest of the day? Yeah. So there is a set time that we have with God, which is a discipline where I go to the word, I study, I meditate, I worship, and I pray. But then there's a prayer without ceasing. Where now I might take a five-minute praise break at work. I might talk to the Lord as I'm driving to work, I'm as I'm doing business deals. I'm still in an attitude of prayer. I'm meditating on the word of God. And this is where Christianity gets fun, where you realize that the Holy Spirit is with you in every way and in every play and every day, like guarding you, guiding you, correcting you, drawing you, revealing things to you. He becomes your best friend. And that's when this thing gets real.
New Workouts And Showing Up
Tabatha ClaytorSometimes we make goals and we think like, yay, it's the new year. This is gonna be wonderful, and you know, like it's gonna be great. I have accountability partners, and you know, I got new people on my team, everything's gonna be great. No, it's not. It's there's going to be something that goes wrong. It doesn't mean that it's fixable. It doesn't mean that it's going to be the end of the world. But there's always going to be opposition. There's always going to be obstacles. There's always going to be something that you can overcome. So when we normalize that and understand that stuff is going to come our way, okay, that's all right. That just means I have to press.
Daily Time With God Made Simple
Ken ClaytorYeah. You know, I think you when you're talking, I'm thinking about people who set goals 10 years ago, but then they just stopped setting goals because those goals didn't come to pass. Um, I'll coin it today as goal fatigue. Yeah. They have goal fatigue. And I want to encourage somebody who's listening, don't have goal fatigue. Because your goals didn't come to pass, it doesn't mean that you should give up on a full plan and just like wander through the wilderness when you've been created for the promised land. Um, yes, so every single time, like so what we do going into our year-end offering is we have these cards that say, What do you believe in God for? And if you go back over my cards, you will see out of there's probably 80% of the things that I sow towards and pray for actually have come to pass. I was actually looking at my card the other day and I was amazed to see how things that come to pass. And there are 20% of the things didn't come to pass. You can't let the 20% cause you to abort the 80%. Yeah. You can't let the things that did not come to pass yet stop you from planning and pressing God. That's a word. Like plan this year and press this year.
Tabatha ClaytorAnd to know that God wants you to have the desires of your heart, to know that God wants and is able to fulfill um your dreams. You know, I'm just reminded, you know, there's some people who they've been believing for a baby year after year and it hasn't come to pass. It hurt it hurts. Some people are believing um for a spouse year after year and it hasn't come to pass. They're believing for um their spouse to come to know God or their kids to, you know, get off of drugs and it hasn't come to pass. It will come to pass. Like I just want to sow seeds of encouragement towards you because sometimes it's so easy to hear all of the negative stories and the negative testimonies or the well, the negative testimonies, um, but there are positive testimonies out there. I'm reminded of some um a wonderful couple that we just became friends with. They're our age and we're in our 40s, and they have a two-year-old child because when they they had been believing God for a child for years, and it just they just never had a child and thought that it wasn't going to happen when in 2020, when COVID hit, she became pregnant and they have a child, and it was just like 13 years later, 13 or 14 years later. Yeah, it's something that they just wasn't even praying about anymore, something that they maybe not necessarily gave up on, but it wasn't intentional, it wasn't in the plans anymore. But God will come and take you from one level of glory to another. He will resurrect those old plans, those seeds that you have sown, they're in the ground, they're still there. But if you can start to water those seeds again, I believe that you can receive a harvest.
Practicing God’s Presence All Day
Ken ClaytorYeah, I hear the Lord saying, just don't give up. Don't get weary and well doing, for in due season, you shall reap a harvest if you do not faint. Amen. I hope you guys enjoyed today's episode. But just like always, make sure that you like, comment, and also share the episode that you heard on today. If you are a giver, I just wanted to take a moment and say thank you for your generosity, but also invite you into our year in giving. You know, we end our year in faith. We have a thing that we call Super Sunday. And what it is, is our heart of the house offering. It is our kingdom expansion offering, it's our vision offering that we allow the people who are part of our church to give towards the year end. And we want to extend that opportunity to you as well. If you're a part of our podcast family, you've been doing life with us, and our ministry has been a blessing to you. We would love for you just to prayerfully consider um sowing and giving towards this ministry. If you don't mind, just take a moment and say, Holy Spirit, what would you have me to give? And whatever He asks you to do, we would ask you to do that. You know, for the year-end offering, Tabitha and I, this was actually this year, our 25th year consecutively, giving in year-end offerings over and above our normal tithes. And so we just want to extend it for um to you guys all throughout December. You say, Pastor, I want to give. How do I do it? There should be a link in the show notes below. All you got to do is go there and whatever amount God's put in your heart, just know that 100% of what we receive this year will help us reach more people next year and change more lives. And more importantly, not only that, we're gonna believe for a financial miracle for you because this is our miracle season. We love y'all. We'll see you soon. Peace.