Defining Success ft. Kiley Peters

Do you define success based on what others think, or what makes you happy?

Kiley Peters had a vision to be successful to hit all of her numbers at her current company, while building a new company, while planning a wedding, while trying to plan for a family.

Now those are all amazing and exciting things, but at the same time, can you be successful with each?

It wasn’t until after she spent all of 2021 trudging through the muck, that she realized that if this was the supposed definition of "success," she needed to give herself space, and redefine her own vision of success.


Key Takeaways

• Don’t compare your success to others. You have no idea what it took for them to get there or what they are currently going through.
• Make sure your work is supporting your definition of success. If your work isn’t in alignment with your goals as a human, there might be another solution for you.
• Create a board of advisors for your life, and have them help you live out the answer to your own question of, “what do I want?”

Key Moments

{1:35} “I had spent a whole year balancing both of these, feeling like, ‘it'll work. I'll be fine.  It'll all be fine.’ And then I got engaged.  We celebrated my agency's five year anniversary. And then shortly after that, I realized I'd been having heart palpitations all year and I was like, ‘so it's probably not great. And also I hate all of this, like this all sucks.’”

{6:42} “And so in a lot of ways, I felt like I had failed. I felt like I had built something and I had abandoned and failed everyone who had ever given me the great gift of being able to make it a reality. And I wrestled with that for a long time.”

{21:44} “I want people to be able to figure this out. Faster and less painfully than I have, and so I ended up reverse engineering what I found my journey to be and adding my own, you know, touch to it in hopes of helping other people.”



More about Kylie

Kiley Peters is a keynote speaker, international award-winning serial entrepreneur, and small business advisor with over 20 years of entrepreneurial experience. She built and successfully exited her digital marketing agency to launch RAYNE IX, her executive leadership consultancy, and has helped hundreds of women launch, leverage, and exit their businesses in pursuit of greater autonomy, financial freedom, and ownership of their lives. She’s also the host of the “Welcome to Eloma” podcast.



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Transcript

Jenny Lynne: Kiley Peters, it is so nice to have you on. 

Kiley Peters: Thank you so much for having me, 

Jenny Lynne: Jenny. I'm excited for today. 

Kiley Peters: Me too, let's do this. 

Jenny Lynne: Let's get in. We were just talking a bit about your story before we, we hit the record button, so I'm incredibly excited. But of course it's the messy middle, we're in season two, and so it starts with our feet trapped in muck.

So when was that moment where you were like, holy crap, 

Kiley Peters: this is not working? Boy I don't know if there was one specific moment because they just kept coming. It was like a, like a, a snowball of moments. But for me, let's see was a shit show for me. The whole year was like [00:01:00] slaps in the face and like a lot of angst, anxiety, friction, struggle, all of the things and I got to December of 2021 and I had just gotten engaged to my high school sweetheart. The business was brainchild studios, my agency at the time. I was. I was just struggling because I was focused on trying to build it to be huge and you know, a bajillion people because that's what it was supposed to be.

Well, I had also started my consulting practice at the time because that's what I really wanted to do. And so I had spent a whole year balancing both of these, feeling like, I'll, it'll work. I'll be fine. It'll, I'll, It'll all be fine. And then I got engaged. We celebrated my agency's five year anniversary.

I got engaged. And then shortly after that, I realized I'd been having heart palpitations all year and I was like, so it's probably not great. And also I hate all of this, [00:02:00] like this all sucks. And I knew that we, we being my now husband and I, we wanted to start a family and I was like, I'm not getting younger.

And I was 35 at the time, which is for women, you know, scary age if you want to have kids. And so I went and I was like, I just want to go get some tests to see what I'm working with here. And I came back and found out that I wasn't going to be able to get pregnant naturally. And that is the moment I broke as an individual.

And About a week after that, I had a come to Jesus moment with a trusted advisor and I just got on the call and just like broke down in tears and he was like, what's up? And I was like, it's not working. I hate it. Everything sucks. You know, none of it. Blah, blah, blah. It's all bad. And I was like, I really want to do this.

I also like, couldn't [00:03:00] see myself in my agency. No, and raising a family like I just couldn't see that future and I could see it with my consultancy And I didn't want the agency anymore I wanted the consultancy and he was like that just go just do that go all in on the consultancy It'll be fine. You'll work it out.

It'll be fine and yeah, I think that was like getting that notice from the doctor of like Your body is betraying you is exactly what it felt like. And then having this moment of like harsh clarity with this advisor, um, of yeah, you've got to make some hard choices, but guess what?

Tough Skittles. That's what the world of entrepreneurship in life is all about. So pull up your big girl panties and let's just fucking make some choices. And that's, that's [00:04:00] kind of where things started to spiral for me. 

Jenny Lynne: I love that you had that moment. I hate that, that you had that moment, but I love that, that you had that moment.

So you're sitting there and you have the clarity to realize, well, I know what I want and I just have to go after it. What was that feeling like in that moment where? Your path forward it maybe not the details, but where you were headed was clear. 

Kiley Peters: Well the reality of being a business owner and realizing I wanted to change and I couldn't give a two week notice was like a real punch to the gut.

You know, like any normal employee was like, I don't want to do this anymore. Here's my two weeks. Right? And I was like, okay, well, that's not my not not my truth. So what does this look like? And I was like, okay this is how I want to go about it. I want to A, make sure that everybody is taken care of, that like nobody is harmed in, in the transition of this decision making.

[00:05:00] And two, that I wanted to bring a number of people with me into this next venture. And then it was a matter of mapping it out. And that's what happened. And at the beginning of 2022, I sat down with my team and I was like, hey guys, This is where I'm at. This is what I would love to do with you. If you'd like to join me, please let me know.

And they said, yes, you know, for the most part. And I was like, okay, so we need to first focus on making sure we take care of all of our existing clients and people and do everything we said we would do. And once we do that, then we'll work on this transition. And that's pretty much what 2022 ended up looking like.

Jenny Lynne: So you were wrapping up all your contracts, delivering all your commitments, doing all the things that you had to do to take care of everybody. 

Kiley Peters: Yeah. I mean, and we, we signed a lot of net new revenue at the beginning of 2022 as well, because we still had revenue goals we had to hit in order to make sure everyone got paid.

But I made [00:06:00] sure that all of our clients were taken care of. I gave them like transition teams. I made sure all of our contractors were taken care of to make sure that their income wasn't going to be impacted. And then I made that transition with certain team members who kind of make that leap with me.

Yeah. 

Jenny Lynne: And so , when you think of that final leap, the leap happened and you now have these two parts, , what was the, what was the saying goodbye like for this one part? 

Kiley Peters: That's a good question.

There's a lot of feelings, man. There's a lot of feelings. In many ways, I always referred to brainchild as my first baby. And so in a lot of ways, I, I felt like I had failed, I felt like I had built something and I had abandoned and failed everyone who had ever given me the great gift of being able to make it a reality.

And I, [00:07:00] I wrestled with that for a long time and eventually came around to realizing that my coach at the time had said something along the lines of, You know, what if you're in a house and this is just one window? Or what if you're, you know, at running a race, but now you're stepping up to the starting line?

Like, maybe Brainchild was just the beginning. It wasn't even where we, the journey really started. And like that mindset really helped me of like, Oh, I didn't fail the race. It was just a warm up. I didn't know I had signed up for, you know um, but yeah, there were a lot of feelings that went into it, but my biggest one was just.

I didn't want to let people down. You know, I think that's the number one thing we need to keep in mind in business is we, I don't care if you're a solopreneur, but we [00:08:00] are nothing without the people we surround ourselves with. And so that was really important to me to just make sure that everyone who was involved or had been involved just knew that I was so grateful for their belief, their loyalty, their talents, their All the things and just try to take it with grace.

Jenny Lynne: It's so beautiful. I I interviewed someone this morning. It's a very rare day because I did two in one day, which I normally don't do, but they had a very interesting, um, interesting and very relevant comment, which was. And I might butcher the wording here, but you can't control other people's success.

So they had to have the realization that other people had to create their own success. And what I'm hearing here is the mirror of that, the second side of the coin, which is, and how you support the success of yourself and [00:09:00] others and how you honor them hmm.

And I love that because they're both true. 

Kiley Peters: Yeah. I think you know, we can do, we can only control ourselves, right? Ourselves and, and our actions and our beliefs and all those things. But I do think that we can we can do our best to set up others up for success. At some point it's up to them. If they want to take it or whatever path they choose to take, but for me, it was just important to make sure that I had done everything I could to make sure that the people who had trusted me did not feel wronged in any capacity, 

Jenny Lynne: which is amazing and beautiful.

Kiley Peters: And I, I don't know that I did a perfect job of it, but I sure tried. So, that's the amazing and beautiful part. That wasn't me. I'm really sorry. You know, I, I tried really hard. 

Jenny Lynne: Well, and that's the amazing and beautiful part because we can't actually, everybody is so [00:10:00] unique with all of their own names that we can't possibly honor everything that everyone needs at all times.

 I had a great mentor who once told me I was crying after a really difficult decision I had to make. And she said crying means you're still in the right job because crying just means it matters and you care and the moment that you stop crying, you shouldn't be in that job anymore because it means you've taken the time to consider their perspective, how it interfaces with the broader like construct and your own feelings of the matter.

And at the end of the day, you're still. Still moving forward with what you believe is the best decision given all of that combined because we can't honor just a part. We have to, we have many parts that we have to protect and honor. That was a powerful statement for me. 

Kiley Peters: Yeah. I mean, we're complicated humans.

It's, it's not, you know, as much as I adore the colors black and white, uh, life is anything but most of the time, 

Jenny Lynne: most of the time. And you put a bunch of us humans together in business and voila. [00:11:00] So, so you said it was a series of like, we're going to, we're going to rewind a little bit. You said it was a series of kind of slaps in the face and all of that year.

Was it clear to you what those slaps in the face were telling you or the, the, all the things was the messaging clear or what was it like to go through that year? 

Kiley Peters: At the time it was not clear. At the time, you know, it was you, I think you started this episode by saying we're stuck in the mud or something along those lines.

That's very much how it felt. You know I, I very much felt like I had one foot. Over here and one foot over there and like, I was trying to like, run a race with my legs straddling some imaginary line. But, you know, it wasn't until, so there's, there's a quote by author Greg McKeown, which I found at the beginning of 2022, which, like, just shed so much light on as I looked backwards on my [00:12:00] 2021.

He said, when you focus on what you lack. You lose what you have when you focus on what you have, you gain what you lack. And in retrospect, what I realized I had done was I had focused so much on what I lacked in all of 2021, that I started to lose the things. That I had and for me, that was very much like great relationships and my team and my culture and some of that was things like I thought I was protecting them by keeping certain things to myself because I was like, Oh, you don't need to worry about that.

I've got it. I'll take care of it. But in doing that, I had left voids that they started to fill on their own, which is natural human inclination, right? But I didn't realize it in the moment. I thought I thought I was Protecting them. I thought I was honoring myself and doing things that I wanted to do, but I realized when [00:13:00] we had just like we had a, you know, a zoom call, we broke it open.

I was like, all right, guys, let's lay it all out there. Here's where I'm at. This is what's going on for me. This is how I'm feeling. This is what I need, you know, all these things. And everyone had the chance to go around and we all ended up crying, you know, like, but it was this really beautiful moment. And when it was towards the end of, I think, probably like Q3, where everyone had something that they needed to say, everyone had something they needed to get off their chest.

And because we created this safe space that, you know, nobody was going to judge you or jump down your throat. If you said something, it was just like this real cleansing moment where we were like, Okay, that needed to happen. So sorry about that. Thanks for sticking it out. Now we know how to proceed more effectively.

 And so I think for me, like, that's kind of how [00:14:00] just a lot of that year ended up stacking up. And then, and then the end of the year came to a head and I was like, Kylie, what are you doing? And yeah, you know, when you run a business and you're responsible for other people's livelihoods, it's a lot of pressure.

Jenny Lynne: It is you you, you start to know that you aren't only putting food on your own table. You're putting food on the table of other people and their families. You start to carry that burden of to some degree, you know, never quite as much as your own, but you carry that burden in the back of your mind, 

Kiley Peters: which, which I take as a great gift as well, like the ability to be able to do that.

I've, I've always felt so fortunate and grateful. Like, if I, if I can create the opportunity for somebody to provide for their family, that's such a gift. But, you know, I think, what is the saying? With great responsibility comes, or [00:15:00] great power comes great responsibility. Not saying that it's power per se, but the power of being able to gift somebody this.

Is also still a responsibility to make sure you're making decisions that allows you to continue to be able to do that thing. Yes. 

Jenny Lynne: Yes. I had a great interview. One of my past podcast interviews with Jesse last names escaping me cause I'm horrible with names. But for those of you can look it up, it's Jesse.

Jesse talked about that and how you have to make decisions that are in the financial. Best interests and the strategic best interest of the company in order to be able to put food on the table for other people. So making sure that you're looking at same thing.

If you're not taking care of your family and what you alluded to Kylie, which I think we're going to get into next is, and if you're not taking care of yourself and your own needs, then it becomes impossible to put the food on the table for other people. So let's talk about your journey to finding alignment and what you learned through that process.

Kiley Peters: Yeah. Well, here's a shameless plug for coaches. I [00:16:00] think everyone should have a coach. I think everyone should also have a therapist, just for the record. I have both. Yeah, I think everybody should. And you know, we oftentimes from a business standpoint, we talk about a board of directors, but I think we should also consider that same concept for ourselves as individuals is a board of advisors as a human being, because there's oftentimes a lot of things that we can't see about ourselves until somebody else points it out.

So for me, that journey very much was facilitated by a coach I had throughout that whole process. And just even creating the space to reflect. And ask the questions of what do you want, and what does this look like, and how is this shaking out for you. There were a lot of books I read at that time.

I mean, I like to read, so I'm still reading a lot of books, different books, but you know, books, [00:17:00] podcasts. Questions. I journaled a lot in 2021, which was really helpful for me. Also very helpful now that I want to go back and like write a book and I'm like, Oh, good. I already wrote part of this now. Great.

I'll just copy and paste this over, you know but for me, at least it was helpful to, to articulate it and get it out. So whether that was through journaling or working with a coach or a therapist, you yeah, that was, there was a lot there and I think my, my greatest realization came at the end of 2021 when, like, as I alluded to a little bit earlier off prior to the jumping on, but we need to define success for ourselves.

Like that was, that was my biggest takeaway because I started 2021. Like I started 2021 and I was like, yeah, I'm going to do it. We're going to hit seven figures in revenue. We're going to build this big team and we're going to be wildly successful because [00:18:00] that's what that means. Yeah. And maybe it's just me and maybe I was living on an Island and everyone listening to this is like, no, bro, you just missed the memo.

Like that's not what it is, but that was not my reality for most of 2021. And I came to the end of the year. And I was like, what am I doing? I hate this. And even if I was successful in building this version, I would not be happy with the outcome. That would still suck. And, like, again, this is my personal journey, so everybody's, is different, and there's lots of ways to go about it, right?

But, that was my biggest realization, was Oh shit, I, I, you can't be looking at your neighbor, you can't be looking at the person down the street, you can't be looking at the influencer on Instagram or TikTok or wherever and saying, oh, so and so has so many followers or so and so has a membership program with 15, 000 members or whatever [00:19:00] it is, like.

A, you have no idea what it took to get there. B, they might be making $10 million a year, but it might be costing them $999 million to make that. And you might be actually far more successful than they are making $250,000 a year and working 20 hours a week. Mm-Hmm. like perspective people. And I say that to myself, , 

Jenny Lynne: I love your little rants. They're awesome, Kylie. Rant away. It's great. There's 

Kiley Peters: a harsh reality, man. It is. You know, it just. You gotta define success for yourself and, and I think that comes from a very deep sense of self awareness. So, I had also started, 2021, I had started going through coaching training.

So I'm now a certified coach because my coach had been so influential on me, I, I wanted to learn more about this craft. So as I went through that training program to become a coach for other people, it also [00:20:00] helped me on my own journey. To, you know, shine that mirror a little bit more on myself to ask some of those deep questions and those hard questions internally.

And I think that's what we all have to do. Like, we have to ask those hard questions in order to, in order to get to the other side, whatever the other side is, we have to go deep inside before we can go to the other side. Yeah. 

Jenny Lynne: Yeah. And for those of you listening who haven't been through a coaching training I think Kylie and I both have been through some good ones and it is a process where, I mean, number one, you have to bring your own stuff and real stories.

So number two, you're taught that you cannot create space for someone else if you are not in the mindset and space yourself. So you do a lot of self work and number three, most of your learning is in diets or tryouts where you're actually coaching someone else and then they coach you and then there's an observer who gives feedback.

And so you spend. So many hours during these trainings, not only learning how to coach someone else and show up for them, but [00:21:00] also receiving it. And you do a crap ton of self work. So I totally know what you're referring to, Kylie. It's like you can't walk out of that program, the same person, unless you truly didn't fully engage and 

lean it.

So, 

Kiley Peters: yeah. And if you, if you do walk out of it, the same person, you definitely did something wrong. Yeah. Or it's in the wrong field. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that was a, that's a little bit of my journey and like my big takeaway. And that's, you know, that's why I took that message and I brought it to reign nine, my consultancy.

And I was like, this is important. This is what people need to know. And so now I'm taking it to stages. I'm building programs. I've built programs around it because I want people to be able to figure this out. Faster and less painfully than I have, and so I ended up reverse engineering what I found my journey to be and adding my own, you know, touch to it in hopes of [00:22:00] helping other people.

Jenny Lynne: That's amazing. I love it. So what was that journey if you were to, since you've done such a lot of work deconstructing your journey, what was it? 

Kiley Peters: So again, I think first people need to define success for themselves and then I was like, okay Well, how do you define defining success?

 And for me, what I believe that to be is first, we have to find our personal purpose. And one of the shortcuts I talk about in my speech I read the book, Think Like a Monk by Jay Shetty, highly recommended.

But one of the biggest takeaways I got out of that was serve the pain you know best. Like, I just. Cuts straight through all the crap, right? There's a lot of warm up exercises that I do with people, etc But at the core of it Like we've all experienced a lot of life the good and the bad and it's like the shit that really hurt That is almost always when I do this work with people [00:23:00] almost always the thing that they say Influenced them the most or impacted them the most.

And they wanna help other people get through that without having to go through it the same way that they did. And so defining your personal purpose to make sure that you are living in alignment with your personal purpose. So one is define your personal purpose. Two is figure out how you want to spend your time and energy.

And we go through a lot of exercises and the programs that I've built to help identify that. But, you know, once you identify why you're here and what you're supposed to be doing, you gotta figure out how you're gonna spend your time and energy and leverage your unique strengths and skill sets to the best.

Possible power in order to fulfill that and then one of my favorite questions is figuring out what you want, right? So, okay, what do you want in life? And we break that down, like, personally, what do you want? Financially, what do you want? Because most of the things we want in life aren't free. Some of them, but...

Most are not. [00:24:00] What are the professional benchmarks and milestones you need to hit so that you can hit the financial ones so that you can hit the personal ones? And then because I believe that when we stop learning, we stop growing. The fourth category is areas of growth. Like how do you want to continue to learn and grow so that you can continue to build as a human?

And then mapping that out in a, in an action plan so that, you know, it's not just all in our heads. And then the last step, because a lot of us, Especially Type A people feel like we have to do this all by ourselves. You don't. There's a beautiful book by Dan Sullivan called Who Not How. And he wrote an entire book on this one concept, that you don't have to figure out how to do everything, you just need to figure out who.

Should do what and they'll figure out how and so the last step is understanding the resources and the dollars and the knowledge needed to make this all happen. And so that's how we define success for ourselves as individuals. [00:25:00] So I break that down as purpose, energy, action and knowledge, which spells peak for those of you who are tracking and then we go through a similar process on the business side.

Jenny Lynne: And so what I'm hearing is as in your work, cause kind of getting back to this workaholism thing and you know, our relationship with work, I'm hearing that for, for what you've learned alignment means being really clear about what's important to you and then making sure that what's important in your work is intersecting with it.

That's really what I'm hearing. 

Kiley Peters: I would, yeah, and I would even like tweak that a bit to say making sure that your work is supporting the things that are really, like, so that's why we use the word alignment because um, you know, you could be doing really meaningful work, but if it's ultimately not aligned with the things that matter most to you, you know, it doesn't mean that you're wasting your time, but there might [00:26:00] be a better solution for you.

Yeah. Yeah. 

Jenny Lynne: at the beginning of the conversation, you said, I might be the only one that has this lack of alignment or, you know, this, when you weren't through the whole agency thing the answer is no. So I had like, I had 75 clients at the time that I sold my last business and part of the intake as we went through this whole process.

And I will tell you, I can't tell you the percentage, but a good chunk of them, cause part of the intake, I talked to them all good chunk of them was like, yeah, I want to make a million bucks. And I'd be like, great. Why? Yeah. What's it for? What's it going to do with that? Let's talk about it. Like if we have a, that's what we're, that's the compass.

Like it's not the doubt and then, and then you have to unpack what's behind it. So no, you're not alone. A lot of people do it. What was behind it for 

Kiley Peters: you to achieve success with my agency? 

Jenny Lynne: Yeah. From what the world gave you as a definition and that, you know, that superficial definition you were describing, what was it, what was the story behind it for you?[00:27:00] 

Kiley Peters: I think I just wanted to. Quote, unquote, prove myself, you know, part of what I realized about my story as I built out my keynote specifically was the pain I know best is that for a long time, for all of my twenties, I was told that I wasn't enough by so many people and that I couldn't do it on my own.

And I had a lot of people question. If I could make this work and I, it was a, like, for me, I was like, fuck you watch me, you know, and I was like, tell, tell me I can't just tell me I can't, you know, and, and it was this blind defiance. Which is not healthy, by the way. I don't recommend blind defiance, it doesn't really tend to work out well for anyone.

Jenny Lynne: \. I sense a power like you [00:28:00] said, when you were saying that, like, really, really, I'm coming.

What does that same, like, what does that look like for you now? How do you get that same sense of focus of, of drive of propelling you forward? 

Kiley Peters: Yeah. What fuels it now? What fuels it now is space. Like, I have worked really hard over the last couple years to be able to identify and then name that I need space.

And that, for me, is also synonymous with time. Like, often times it feels like, oh, there's just not enough time, there's not enough time. It's like time and space. I've done a lot of mindset work and so I highly recommend that it changes everything. And two mantras that have really helped me over the last couple years is, this is happening for me, not to me, which I think it's very easy to take a victim mindset, but if we look at everything as a gift, makes us significantly stronger [00:29:00] and better equipped to handle whatever comes next.

And then two trust the process. Just trust the process like I'm not I don't consider myself a religious person by any means But I'm a I'm a type a control freak And so I have plenty of spreadsheets and I have plenty of game plans. I have all of it written down and Sometimes I just have to let that go and understand that maybe this was not the way it was supposed to happen for me Maybe there's something better around the corner and I just couldn't even imagine that for myself And so this is happening for me, not to me and trust the process.

And I'll also say that I binge watched Ted Lasso for like this entire period of time, which also just helped me elevate as a human being. Ted Lasso will restore your faith in humanity.

I, I seriously think I should watch an episode like every day. I feel like it would just make me a better human. [00:30:00] Awesome. I 

Jenny Lynne: love that. So, yeah. Okay, so now comes the part where I get to attempt to recap and I love that your journey had so many different hills and mountains and meadows that you got to walk through.

So we'll try to do this justice. Okay, let's see. Okay, so what I first heard is that you had this you had a beautiful word for it, but a level of defiance that kept you moving forward towards a marker of success that no longer was important to you. But it was what you had defined a success at that time and what you felt was supposed to be success.

So you're at that point, you had a series of things happen. That we're not feeling well and working well, but you couldn't quite figure out why at the time because you were just laser focused on moving forward until the bottom fell out. And the bottom fell out when you realized that you couldn't do all these things and be all these things at the same time.

It was not working. You were failing all of the things because you were trying to be all the things. [00:31:00] Which is always like a moment for so many of us. That's when you had to make choices, and I heard you had to say no to some things to be able to say yes to the things that mattered the most, and what you said yes to was in alignment with your personal definition of success so that your work could support, I love that word, your work supported what was important to you as a human.

So putting the human first. And the journey from there was working through, you have this peak model that you work through, which is, I'm going to try to get this right, your purpose, your energy and time, action plan and knowledge. How do you support making it all happen and continuing the learning process that you did that for both work and personal and then lined them up.

So you knew that work would support furthering yourself as a human. It sounds like you did a lot of putting the [00:32:00] human at the center of things. 

Kiley Peters: That was very intentional. And 

Jenny Lynne: you did that with your team too. It wasn't just about you, but when you did make the transition from one business to another, you applied that same care and that same human focus on those that surrounded you and recognize that you actually could ask for help and that all those people that you showed up for would show up for you.

Yes. You created your personal board of advisors so that you could get different perspectives, got all the right team in place, and now you are launching and successfully running this amazing business. Speaking, but you're doing it from a place fueled by space versus that original rewind years ago, that defiance that was once driving you.

Mm 

Kiley Peters: hmm. How'd I do? You nailed it. You nailed it. That was great. Yeah. No. Nailed it. Do 

Jenny Lynne: you have any final parting words of wisdom for this [00:33:00] this 

Kiley Peters: group, Kyleen? Just

be honest with yourself. Mm. Just be honest with yourself and be gentle. 

Jenny Lynne: I love that. I feel the gentleness surrounding me.

So thank you, Kylie. Yeah. 

Kiley Peters: Thank 

Jenny Lynne: you. Guys, check out Kylie. She is amazing. A keynote speaker, international award winning serial entrepreneur and small business advisor with 20 years of entrepreneurial experience. And not only did you build this marketing agency, but you successfully exited it. You knew when to walk away from it and you've now launched Rain ix.

Is it Rayne IX? Is that how you pronounce 

Kiley Peters: it? Rayne IX. Rayne 9. See Roman numerals, baby . 

Jenny Lynne: I should have prepped for that one. Look at that guys. Rayne 9. I love it. I love it. Her executive leadership consultancy and now you have helped hundreds of women launch leverage and exit your business. I love it.

She also has a podcast, guys, so check her out at Welcome to Eloma. [00:34:00] Yeah, check it out. 

Kiley Peters: Thanks guys.