
Interbeing
Interbeing is a podcast by MSB exploring what it means to lead, coach, and live in a deeply interconnected world. Hosted by Naomi Ward and Matt Hall, the show brings together educators, coaches, and thought leaders to reflect on the questions shaping international schools and beyond.
In this new season we return to the heart of our work: coaching as a way of being. Together we explore how presence, curiosity, and care can shift not just our conversations, but our cultures. Inspired by Thich Nhat Hanh’s teaching on “interbeing,” we recognise that nothing exists in isolation — every choice, every relationship, every pause matters.
Expect honest dialogue, stories from the field, and a commitment to learning in public. Not as answers, but as invitations to think differently about leadership, community, and the future of education.
You can find out more about Futures-Focused Leadership Coaching for International Schools and MSB at www.makingstuffbetter.com
Interbeing
S2Ep1: An Introduction To Season 2: Organisational Health
Principled is back!
Welcome to Season 2 of the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better introduce their mission statement for an exciting second season.
This time, we're exploring organisational health. What does it mean to create healthy systems? And how can we overcome the challenges currently faced by leaders in education?
With the help of some fantastic guests, Matt and Naomi invite you on a journey to explore how we can promote safe spaces full of opportunity.
So join us as we find out what the people at the forefront of education, systems thinking, ecology, consultancy and many more industries are doing to protect these spaces for the generations to come.
Stay tuned for more episodes of Principled.
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