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Interbeing is a podcast by MSB exploring what it means to lead, coach, and live in a deeply interconnected world. Hosted by Naomi Ward and Matt Hall, the show brings together educators, coaches, and thought leaders to reflect on the questions shaping international schools and beyond.

In this new season we return to the heart of our work: coaching as a way of being. Together we explore how presence, curiosity, and care can shift not just our conversations, but our cultures. Inspired by Thich Nhat Hanh’s teaching on “interbeing,” we recognise that nothing exists in isolation — every choice, every relationship, every pause matters.

Expect honest dialogue, stories from the field, and a commitment to learning in public. Not as answers, but as invitations to think differently about leadership, community, and the future of education.

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S2Ep4: How We Can Create Systemic Kindness with Sam Isaacson

October 25, 2023 • By Matt Hall, Gill Kelly and Naomi Ward • Season 2 • Episode 4

Welcome to the Principled podcast.

In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by author, consultant, and founder of Coachtech Collective, Sam Isaacson.

They discuss the crucial attributes great leaders have and how these impact the organisations they lead, the importance of emotional intelligence and embracing our vulnerabilities, and how well-defined structures and policies can safeguard against potential issues and protect organisational health.

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To get in touch with Sam, you can find him online here:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samisaacson/?originalSubdomain=uk

Coachtech Collective: https://www.isaacson.uk/

Next Generation Leadership: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Next-Generation-Leadership-blueprint-systemic/dp/B0CGYW3BHX/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1696414106&refinements=p_27%3ASam+Isaacson&s=books&sr=1-1

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To get in touch, please find us online here:

Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en

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