The Care Girl Podcast
The Care Girl Podcast
Addressing the Need for Black Representation in Medicine
Do you ever wonder why representation matters so much? The lack of black doctors has been a gaping hole in our medical history, and this episode’s guest, Dr. Sumari, will share startling insights that make a compelling case for the need of black representation in medicine and speaking up about his struggles with mental health.
We tackle the chilling statistics surrounding the paucity of black doctors since 1910 and imagine a different world where historical disparities did not get in the way of having up to 50,000 more black doctors today.
Do you feel like an imposter sometimes? We get real about the imposter syndrome, and how support, exposure, and encouragement are crucial to surmounting this hurdle. We unravel the complex layers of generational trauma that have impacted black communities, emphasizing awareness without harboring resentment.
Believe it or not, the words of affirmation you choose can wield incredible power over your life. Dr. Sumari and I reflect on the impact of three simple adjectives used by friends to describe us and how they can serve as affirmations during challenging times. Join us in this stimulating dialogue as we explore faith, dreams, and the importance of staying open to receiving what life has to offer. Remember, your dreams and aspirations will come to pass when you believe in yourself. So, are you ready to start believing?
The Care Girl Podcasting Experience. Hi, it's the Care Girl and this is the Care Girl Podcast. Today I have Dr Sumari here next to me, a friend, also colleague of mine. I felt like I needed to bring him in because I wanted to hear about his journey and he just wrote a new book. All that good stuff they call him Doc from the Block All that good stuff. Man, you know, I love to see black men rising up and I kind of saw you. I've seen you on your journey, going through what you're going through, and I just want to say I'm proud of you, oh thank you.
Speaker 1:Like number one. I'm proud of you. You're a boss, you're a boss too. Look, you're telling the way you're showing young men. You're leading other young medical students. You have your own podcast as well. Like, I see stars.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you, I'm just trying to set a blaze. You know that mystery and stratosphere, like you've done for yourself, so I think I love that we're in a space to collaborate and, as well as you know, I see how you move and I learn from you and I'm encouraged by the things you do as a black woman, as a black mother, as a black entrepreneur, in a space where we're rare, like Mr Clean with hair.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean definitely our rarity. I would say what let's buy it from? Like what made you go on the journey of MD? And like, was there something that you always wanted to do?
Speaker 2:Like yeah, yeah, so DO. So for those that don't know, there's MD and DO.
Speaker 1:Oh, DO I'm wrong? Do Doctor of Assympathic Medicine, which is equivalent to the MDs.
Speaker 2:Okay, so essentially, what brought me on this journey was, you know, I used to see my mom really hustle when I was young in the Bronx as a nurse and I would go to a nurse in home hair all the time and I realized that I had a love for the way that she interacted with her patients, how she was engaged, how she cultivated relationships with them and was so compassionate and I said I could do that one day. But I wanna take it the next step up. You know, seeing that doctor in the white coat pulling up in a nursing home and like who's that? Oh, he's going in the room saying hello, like greeting them and having the perspective to be able to utilize your knowledge to treat people in critical conditions and in vulnerable situations. It's so powerful Even today. Like I go back to my block in the Bronx and like yo, that's a doc right there, like yo you can help me out. Like, oh, I'm having issues with diabetes, having had a heart attack. Like this, and that you know a lot of my people's parents be coming up to me having questions. So to be able to educate people in a space where many of us were not even in there, right?
Speaker 2:You know, black men have the lowest life expectancy in America overall. You go to places like Harlem your life expectancy as a black male is 61 years old. And then we talk about even black Women, where we talk about breast cancer, where we may not have the highest rates of diagnosis, but black women die at the highest rates because of inability to engage in preventative actions, right? So when we talk about doing mammograms and the same thing with black men, right? Oh, I don't want to get a colonoscopy because it's going up back there and I feel like that's homo. It's not necessarily the case, but anyway, I'm saying that to bring up examples where it's important for me to be a placeholder for people, to educate them and alert them and enhance their experiences as people of the culture, because oftentimes we don't know what we don't know and we see that this causes such a huge discrepancy we talk about even looking at the amount of black doctors out here. You know.
Speaker 2:There hasn't been any significant changes in the amount of black doctors now than there were 100 years ago, and when we talk about percentage points, why do you think that that is the case?
Speaker 2:I think mainly because no more. On 1910, for those of you guys that don't know in 1910, abraham Flexner created this thing called the Flexner Report and that rated about 67 medical schools, hbcu medical schools which created and promoted and engaged most of them black doctors in the country at that particular time. And what happened? A study showed that because those schools closed in 1910, we could have had anywhere from 25 to 50,000 more black doctors right now, which would have closed the gap right. So 5.7% of doctors now are black and we make up close to 14% of the population.
Speaker 2:So we have a lot of black people out here that already don't have a trust of the system, already fill a type of way about what happened when we talk about Tuskegee and all of these kinds of things or I couldn't name countless examples. But when you see somebody looks like you're more engaged, you're more likely to listen to them and studies have already shown that. But because we don't have, we don't see black doctors. I grew up I ain't seen no black doctors. So you are what you see, I never saw that. So initially I never thought I could be that, but now I could be in that position where I'm power people to be like yo, don't matter where you're from, like you got it. You hold yourself down right, you bring yourself by the reins and nobody could stop you or dictate the narrative that you have.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right. I love that, I love that, I mean, and you just have to stand strong on what you believe in 10 toes down 10 toes down 10 toes down and you know I'm definitely advocate of health and wellness and education. You know I, as a mother of three black boys, I say we have to raise you know black, especially black men, who can compete. So it's okay to push you know your children to be the best that they can be and to support them. Like my oldest found out, he likes engineering.
Speaker 1:So like we're pushing him into that. He has, he's in a program, he goes to a STEM school, you know. But I let him try different things and because at first he was like, oh, I just want to do the military, and at one point I just he, just he didn't, he didn't like try to push yourself. You know, and you know I had. He sees me every day going out there being an entrepreneur doing my thing, so, so eventually, like I, you know, there was a fire lit under him when he saw, like the way I said you know, I said the bills get paid from, you know, from me going out. I said nobody pays.
Speaker 1:I said I used to work a job, you know. I said you see me home anytime. Now, like I come home when I want to, like I say I say so, this, so that's something that I, I have, I created because I want to be here for you. So I said you have, you have choices. But I said you have more power when you, when you do have education. So you know, I'm not saying no to the military, but you know, I want you to know that there is more you know. And now he he's like, oh no, I do, I do want to do this, and I do want to do that because I'm, like you know nothing, not opposed to you know the military, anything like that, but we do. We do have to make our children diverse by giving them different life experiences and experiences and different mentorships and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Do you mentor or are you doing any program or anything like that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. I mean, as a pertain to pre-med and med students, I'm always mentoring and you know, just putting myself out there. If you look at my IG page, it says interested in medicine, I'm a mentor. If you're interested in medicine, just DM me. And a lot of people just DM me off of that, off of my bio, you know, and so I've done, you know, countless amount of hours doing that, because I think that we got to get back to our future.
Speaker 2:Right, we're going to change these disparities. If we're going to improve the health outcomes that we find in our communities, we need more black doctors, we need more black entrepreneurs, more black engineers, because it's all about group economics, all about collaboration and exposure, and for me, I knew what it was like not having that exposure guessing, figuring out, like how to apply to med school, like where to go, like what you know, what is a deal, all of these kinds of questions. I hope that could provide that for someone early on, initially in a game, so that they don't get lost, because a lot of times, you know, a lot of our black men and women get lost in the streets and the urban environment, get lost in chasing fame, get lost in chasing celebrity, get lost, in trying to live up to a stereotype that you could only fit a certain mold, such as being a rapper, being a ball player or for a black woman, that you're only competent enough as much as your body affords you to right. You're more than your body. You're actually a representation of your mind, and your mind could create and build up anything in this universe. But you just have to have that exposure, that support and that encouragement, and so it's really important for me to be in the community and be there for people that are oftentimes having imposter syndrome, oftentimes questioning themselves or just dealing with the anxiety of not knowing what the day-to-day is right.
Speaker 2:You may have parents that sometimes, like yourself or like my mom, for instance, she was grinding, she was out there, you know, making sure I was able to eat, you know. So I had a lot of time to ruminate and think about what do I want to do with my life? But I also saw that in this life, nothing is given to you. Nobody's going to wake you up and put that battery in your back. You know to get out there and get this money, or get out there and get what you want to accomplish in this life.
Speaker 2:So I think that we got to come to the realization, like in our community, like it's not enough just to sit back and, oh yeah, god's going to bless me with, you know, these cars and these houses and a beautiful family. No complacency, we'll never get you anywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I mean we get it. You know we want to, we pray. You know we believe in God, you know we trust God, but my thing is you still have to have action right. You know you have to have, like, like it's a certain level of activity that you have to have to get those results that you say you want. I know a while back you told me that you're moving into the mental health space and I want to elaborate more on that and why you chose that.
Speaker 2:Right Now certainly so. For those that don't know, I finished medical school and then I started residency in neurology and I realized that it wasn't for me. You know, from a clinical perspective it just wasn't something that I was befitting for me, even in terms of the training. You know, I just liked a lot of things that I did. I woke up hating my life. I woke up Sometimes seeing patients. I'm like yo, could you shut that up? You know what I'm saying In the back of my mind. I didn't say it to them, but I'm like yo, you're doing stuff that is not who or what represents you. Like you know, one of our friends, lovar he even told me, like I saw you up there, bro, like oh, I G you looking depressed. You know, like your videos don't have the same content and quality that they used to. So I knew something was up, and so for me it was like I've always loved mental health, psychiatry, like I've done research and it. You know I was a psychology major and undergrad and knowing also that there is not enough black psychiatrists in his mental health space.
Speaker 2:Right when we talk about, you know, depression, anxiety, suicidality. These are things that plague our communities because of various things like discrimination, stereotype, threat, institutional racism. We even talk about generational trauma. Right, you are what you see, like the other day I was bringing example to one of my homies where I was like we're talking about the fact that her father doesn't show her love.
Speaker 2:You know it's not compassionate with her, but I brought it to the fact that when you look back at slavery and all of those times, many of the people, what they was going through, they didn't have time to nourish and encourage their children because they were worried about eating. You know, mothers were taking care of the white man's babies and not their babies. So when they got home they was exhausted you know what I mean. And that trauma was like those kids attachment. They may not have had that attachment and that trauma built into them how they behaved toward the world and how they behaved toward their progeny and the progeny after that. And so when I speak about generational trauma, I speak about the fact that we inherit things that we don't necessarily have seen or experienced directly, but someone in our past has and has been transmuted through time before we even thought of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, like. I mean, like my mother experienced poverty and her mother experienced poverty and their ancestors experienced poverty. And then you look over here it's like, why is it so hard for me to catch a financial break? And once you realize that moment, it's called an awakening and you realize you know what I do, have the tools. And if you don't have the tools, like you said, mentor, you know you have programs. You got Google, you got AI.
Speaker 2:Now you got folks, you got Google, you got live broadcasts Like this one.
Speaker 1:Exactly so. It's like so it's so much information out here that we have and we just have to use it, like you said. But you would be being aware, like, and not just being resentful, right, that's because we could be resentful and say, hey, mom, you didn't set me up to win this, this and that, but she didn't have the strength that you have, right, but she gave you some type of tools and you survived, or whatever. So you say, give them the benefit of the doubt, but you have to be relentless on your path and for you to come up and to bring, you will bring other people up with you. But you have to recognize sometimes that journey is is definitely a lonely path, right?
Speaker 3:100%.
Speaker 1:Have you ever felt like alone on your journey and like what were your tools that you used to, kind of like, get your mental health space together?
Speaker 2:Man, I felt alone A lot of times. I mean, I'll talk about my most recent time, like in residency. I felt alone because I was going through something where I just didn't know how to communicate with it. And this is the thing that we find, especially with a lot of black, our black men, just in the black community. You feel ashamed, you feel guilty about feeling like telling people I need help or I don't feel right or I'm not happy or I'm depressed. It's one of the hardest things to have to acknowledge and express that to someone. Now we'll talk to my mom every day, but I just didn't even I could never commit or have that courage to just lay it down with her. Like yo, this ain't right, like I'm having thoughts about doing certain things that I shouldn't have never really navigated before, and even at the time I was somewhat seeing therapy therapists and the like. But for me, learning to navigate that situation was really challenging.
Speaker 2:I think, you know, being a man of integrity and conviction is really important for me to acknowledge we got to follow our instincts and having a confidence to move forward with how our instincts dictate our life and what direction we need to go to is important because I feel like we make these decisions, we live on a day to day basis and we have, of course, these obligations and things of that nature, but sometimes something deep down in your soul and your essence is telling you one way and it's, I think, against our natural biology to say no to it. And that's what was happening to me when I was in that isolationist period. Was that my mindset right? And my instinct was like yo, bro, you got to move, you got to do something different, you got to shake it up, otherwise it's a no go. You know, in the next couple of days, weeks, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2:But my body and what everybody else was telling me was something different. So I had that conflict right, and that's also what exacerbated exacerbation. But once I made that decision, I sat down and I asserted myself and realized, like you made it far, you made off the block, you still a doctor, and although this is not a decision that most people may have engaged in by taking that leap of faith and saying I'm moving away from this part of medicine, I'm looking towards another step, I have full faith that whatever God got in store for me is going to work out for me, and I, rather, like I said, I rather live 10 toes down. I'm a firm believer in standing deep, like I said, in your conviction. I rather stand up and be courageous than be on my knees as a coward.
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Speaker 1:I am back with Rachel. What is this? What are we looking at right here? So this is the CTN ECabin full body cryotherapy. Yeah, it's all about trying.
Speaker 2:So there's no nitrogen so that eliminates the risk of getting burnt. So it's like a big, big freezer, woo. Right now we're at negative 249.7 degrees inside and it's going to get intense, woo.
Speaker 1:For 10-4 seconds. The first 30 seconds is always the hardest, yes, yeah. So did you ever like seek therapy or did you do your own self therapy? I did, yeah, I did do therapy.
Speaker 2:But it was hard because I was doing therapy on weeks where I was on night flow. You know what I'm saying. So you work in. So how it works in residency is like you know, you'll have one week where you work like 6.30am to like 6.30 or 7. And then the next week.
Speaker 1:So it's 12 hours. Yes, yeah, when do you take therapy? Is that realistic like? Do you feel like what they put the med students through? Is it a realistic thing that you see?
Speaker 2:In terms of, like, what I went through in med school versus residency.
Speaker 1:Yeah, residency. I mean yeah, like is it. Do they overwork you all? Because I see, a lot of people saying like it's a big mental health crisis in it.
Speaker 2:They're 100% overwork and abuse people. You know and I ain't on lies to be mad tight. There be nurses that I'm working three days this week and I'm going on vacation. Bro, I'm on my 13, 14 day in a row. You know what I mean and you're making more bread than me, like that. You should know my. You know what I'm saying Respectfully to the nurses, but at the same time it's like yo.
Speaker 2:But that's why you need representation, unisation, which is happening in a lot of places with residency. But you know, when you look at the history of residency, it was made in a way where it wasn't conducive to mental health. The guy that made it was coped up on cocaine, literally was a surgeon, you know what I mean. And that individual essentially had hundreds of people vying for positions to be his assistant and then when they used to work with him, they used to see him work all night, all day, but he didn't realize that he was drugged up. So he created this residency system where people were trying to be his apprentice and they were also trying to get to that level working, working, working, working, working. And eventually that just dispersed into the different fields and became the norm, what it was today. He was drugged up. He was. He was gogged up in the 1800s.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ooh, that's something. That's something that's wild to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've been in the middle of a field, I've seen. I've seen some things as well. Yeah, tell us about this book you have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, so my book. Thanks for asking.
Speaker 1:You know, go ahead and click plug, click plug, Click plug. You know I'm gonna put the link below. Yeah yeah, Link in the bio. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So my book is called Tools of Excellence from Hood to Hooded becoming the physician you dream. So, essentially, it's a book to help black men and women who are pre-meds, medical students and high school students and beyond in helping usher their dreams of becoming a physician. So we talk about things like imposter syndrome. What is the MCAT, which is the medical college admission test? How to navigate, finding mentors, which was something that had difficulty and challenges of how to deal with failure right, yeah, everyone's gonna deal with adversity. Yeah, okay, courses like I've had issues from a legal perspective and all these kind of things. So how do we get through those scenarios, especially us being black men and women, where they see us in a certain way and stereotype us? How do we change that narrative? And so, for me, the book is a perfect representation of what I wanted to hear when I was a high school student, saying I want to be a doctor and I'm looking like how do I be a doctor?
Speaker 3:Like I don't even know any doctor. I'm going on.
Speaker 2:Google and at the time, I don't know if I died out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So I'm really appreciative and happy to put that out into the world. I don't think if I was still a residency I probably would not have been able to do that, but it's the one book of many that's coming out, so I already want to listen.
Speaker 1:I see a lot of content coming from you. I see a lot of just. I just see it Like it. Just I told Fala if that's one of our mutual friends, like I just said, he's a star.
Speaker 3:That's why you had to know.
Speaker 1:I said that's why you had to shift. And sometimes we have to shift and sometimes we think that what is? It's a loss, but it's really a game right. Because it's a more of a freedom, because you're walking into what you always could be, even though you might not know what it is. But you said I didn't want that and I had a right to choose what I want. I don't care, like you chose it.
Speaker 3:You chose it.
Speaker 1:I'd rather. I'd rather like have my costume even go down to whatever Right who I work for, anybody. That's how I feel right now. You know what I'm saying that's how I feel right now, because I was like this is gotta work or they gotta work, that's right, that's what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, like a lot of, that's why you didn't run.
Speaker 2:But I was making decent money. I was like I went to zero Like red. I'm like, oh no, this is this is right.
Speaker 1:But you know what it's? It all would pay off. And I know a lot of people say that but you gotta have that unshakable belief in yourself Like, okay, I don't care if you believe in me, I believe in me and it's all it takes, your whole circle is going to support you. You know I'm here to support you. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1:I want you to tell everybody one thing, that kind of like maybe an affirmation that helps you, or just like a line from a book or whatever, like that kind of that. You think back to when you, when you're having a moment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think this is something, this is something that I'll be thinking about, like something I guess I made, but I'm not sure I've seen this. Oh, you made it.
Speaker 1:Okay, but your mind is only limited as you let limitations allow you to limit it.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like a limited way of thinking, but basically, saying that you are the only person that can impose the limits on your will, on the capabilities you have in this life. Yeah, and so for me, it's engendered in that thought that positivity, optimism, being able to invoke the greatness that you want, that you want to see in the world, that you want to see in yourself when you get up. I am great, I am a king, I am a king. I am a king. I am great, I am a king, I am him Like. Even sometimes when I'm maybe you've seen on IG, but sometimes I'd be talking like positive stuff to other people, but it's really me also afraid of myself, but I'm not saying I, I'm saying you, but I see me and you and I see you and me. Yeah, you know me, and so I want to spread that energy, that beauty, because a lot of people they get up today.
Speaker 2:They get up every day and they don't feel that sense of confidence. Right, they're questioning what they're doing.
Speaker 2:They're like automaton, they're like robots, just going through life which sometimes it does happen, but when you find that purpose and you are revitalized and what you mentioned about like that freedom, that sense of liberation, even if you don't got all the money in the world, even if you don't got the cars, even if you don't have the woman of your, of your dreams, whatever the case may be, you can always work toward that, each and every day. You have every opportunity to do what is necessary to get to where you need to get to and acquire whatever you want.
Speaker 1:No limit, no limitations. I go with that. That's right I got one more thing for you. What are three adjectives that your friends would describe you with?
Speaker 2:I like that question. Nice, she's good. Yeah, I like that. I would say risky.
Speaker 1:Okay, I can say it yeah.
Speaker 2:Cause I'm just, I just do whatever I want. Yeah, you know the same. You see, here I mean it's a little concealed, but I'm the same in the hospital, you know what I mean? Like I don't change my earrings, like nose ring. I mean I was in hospital with a hoodie on and my white coat and all that. So I just I'm just myself, you know, and for some you know I make people uncomfortable because of the way that I move, that navigating. I'm not afraid of conflict, but also risky in terms of doing things that I feel is right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm standing up for morality, speaking my mind Right when I'm speaking and advocating about issues with, you know, residency or issues that I see in life some people they may not like it. You know I've had situations where people are like you shouldn't say that that's the wrong thing. I don't care if it's the wrong, it's how I feel.
Speaker 1:It's how I feel, yeah, yeah, I love that. I love that More people need to, more men need to need to be okay with with saying things that everybody might not be okay with, if it's a good thing to say.
Speaker 2:Right, right, of course, now I'm not saying like I'm saying racist or detrimental to other people, but I'm saying things that fit with my own morality and viewpoints of life. Yeah, so exactly, yeah, no-transcript, I would say. Second one be relentless.
Speaker 1:Okay, relentless, I never give up. That's not gonna work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too. It don't matter, even if I'm down by 35, I'm coming fighting, I'm clawing my way up, even if I lose. As long as you know that I'm knocking heads off, that's all that matters.
Speaker 1:I could still get the TKO or whatever the case may be, I gotta express my. I gotta express my Right now. I know right she been boxing.
Speaker 2:she been ready. She been ready, you know. But even like Antony, met School took me a couple times, like even things I went through in Met School, like, and even things I go through now, like I'm always positive about it and, if not the worst case scenarios that I die.
Speaker 1:Otherwise it's a death in my life. You know what I mean. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Because even Steve Harvey one of my favorite things he said was what is your, your, your percent, your accomplishment rate dealing with the worst days of your life? 100%.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All right. You 100% can get through the worst days of life because you're still here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had. I had. I had food poisoning last night and I was like, no, I'm gonna do this today. I got through it.
Speaker 2:I stayed home. No, no problem.
Speaker 1:No, and I mean because I needed to get out of the house. I needed to. I needed to do this and, like I just wanted to, as well as we.
Speaker 2:I was like, look, I gotta do this.
Speaker 1:I got another lady next week. I want to make sure we get it done, so like on your worst days, like sometimes you know it's like you gotta just keep going.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, one more attitude.
Speaker 2:One more.
Speaker 1:So we had risky, relentless.
Speaker 2:It's two hours Right now. Right man, let me see Rich, let me see, oh, I got rich Rico.
Speaker 1:We gonna say rich, you got those sobbing I, I, I made it for you, rich, rich.
Speaker 2:I ain't rich right now, but Relentless, relentless.
Speaker 3:You rich, you rich, you rich in chocolate skin.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? The bunnish, you got it, you got it.
Speaker 2:We gonna go with the rich. We gonna go with the rich. Yeah, I'm in rich, I'm in rich. You know I may not be the money, but it may be rich in love and optimism.
Speaker 1:We gonna speak it because, because you're so conscious of the know. That's true, right, that's true, so I am rich. That's true, I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich. Okay, we gonna say it three times you rich too. I'm rich too. We rich, we rich, you rich.
Speaker 2:We rich? I'm really thinking about that.
Speaker 2:I love that because it reminds me, a couple days ago this is a page on IG called Black man, black Tie, and they had a video of a black man seemingly presumably in LA and he has a whole big bookcase. It's one of them houses that you see at the top of Hollywood Hills. You know what I'm saying, yeah, and he walks out and he's just sitting there and I repost it. I was like this is gonna be me one day and they hit me back like yo yeah, that's, you Claim that. I'm like it's crazy how you see certain things and you doubt yourself and I really I don't have confidence in myself, but it's like it's crazy how one thought can just spark anything in your life but just because you're in your subconscious, you're rejecting it, it won't happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you gotta be trying to bring.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:This it. Where can everyone find you on social media?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure you can find me on IG. My IG is whitecoat underscore poppy. We're in a whitecoat poppy underscore deal.
Speaker 3:That's my name.
Speaker 2:Whitecoatpoppy underscore deal on IG Twitter. It's enriching, doc bx. And then also you can find me on Facebook, aldo and Samari. I think you can have 5,000 friends, so I think I got like maybe 700 more to go before I get there, there we go, ok, ok, ok, you reached in Facebook friends. Yeah, I know right, but I got the IG up. You know what I mean. Follow me, follow the IG.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate it. I can't wait to have an update of you in a year. Oh yes. And that's my last name. What do you see yourself in a year?
Speaker 2:In a year I see myself.
Speaker 1:But I'll hold you to it. I remember you big on in a year.
Speaker 2:Oh, let's do it, I'll be down. So I see myself. I'm definitely going to have a second book published online business. I'm ready, like reading and just getting into what I want to do with that. I'm also going to have, hopefully, a second real estate property OK, ok, I really want to get into that. And then also car rental, so with Toro, which is my interest Been still building with that, and then I think like, lastly, the thing would be just self evolution and being a space where I'm creating positivity for the world.
Speaker 2:My podcast is blown up. Shout out to my podcast Mellon and White Co podcast.
Speaker 1:All the links are going to be below and link in the bio and I think this stuff yeah for sure, and just blowing up, you know blowing up, Just like you've been blowing up oh you so silly, bobbing out, you're bobbing out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, wait, I'm not bobbing out, but OK, you're bobbing out.
Speaker 3:I didn't say I'm leaving. I didn't say I'm leaving. I didn't say I'm leaving, ok. Ok, I didn't force to leave.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, just in general, Like just bobbing out. You said bobbing out.
Speaker 1:I think that's all realistic. It sounds very ambitious, but you got it.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:You got it. It's happening for you.
Speaker 2:She claimed it for me. I'm a claim it for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah and.
Speaker 2:I'm a claim for you as well, whatever your dreams and aspirations are in the next year, that they will happen, and they will happen because they've already occurred. We just have to be there, receive it and so it is.
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