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Backyard Conversations with Toya: Embracing Your Inner Spotlight

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Speaker 1

Hey , hey , hey , welcome back . Happy Sunday , welcome to Go . Ask Sawyer . This is session three of we're going to call it backyard conversation . I like that , session three with Toya from Universal Tees Talking about life . We have our animals here again today Talking about life . We go .

Speaker 1

Talking about just everything that is encompassing of women or people , or humanity , or society seasons . I like that . Yeah , tonight we're looking at power , realizing our power , and what does shining , bright and main character energy mean to you , right ? So I like to pretend I'm the main character and again in my life , I am a podcaster before I'm actually a podcaster . I'm a writer before I am . I was putting out a bunch of dance videos . That's awesome Because I was the main character and I wanted to dance and have fun

Defining Main Character Energy

Speaker 1

. So , like , what is main character ? Maybe ? I'll ask I don't know if that's the first question I have , but maybe what does main character energy mean for you ?

Speaker 2

Okay . So to me , main character energy is literally that . It's like doing what you want to do . It's not looking for a consultation for your everyday things . Main character energy is not needing a supporting cat , really just like a freedom . It's a certain level of agency over your life that is very singular . Main character energy is self-definition . It's deciding who you are , outside of labels and responsibilities , and just being happy there and not feeling lost there , because sometimes , without our titles , you forget who we are . So I think main character energy is loving who you are outside of a title , a label , an accomplishment , a degree . Facebook likes friends , all of that I really like that .

Speaker 1

You said A loving yourself . And then , outside of life , the likes and the titles and the validation when you're truly main character in your life and any listener can think about . When you're watching a movie and you see that main character , everyone's eyes are on them and they're just really focused on what they're doing . I want to ask my listeners too , or our listeners , like , what are you doing in your life ? That's main character . Like , how are you showing up ? I don't really care what anyone thinks . I am going to post this , I'm going to try this , I am going to . I wish my son Aspen was here because , like he also lives this very like main character , authentic . I love that . I do not care what anyone thinks and , like for a 19-year-old , I never thought that way at 19 . Yeah , no , and I just love that because when I see him living that life , it feels freeing and I think when we see people in our life living that like authentic main character , energy , it just looks freeing .

Speaker 2

It looks so beautiful .

Speaker 1

Man , they just do not care . Yes .

Speaker 2

That actually reminds me I have someone who I asked to be a guest on my podcast , and I think that she is the epitome of that . Oh , I love that , and so I can't wait to hear and see her live that out . I think Mito's mad that Gunnar doesn't want to play with him .

Speaker 1

Oh , Gunnar , I think that could be real .

Speaker 2

I think that could be real , which is so funny . Migo's like Gunnar we're the same . Why don't you want to play ?

Speaker 1

Can I ask what does this person encompass that ? You see that in them .

Speaker 2

I see the healing . So she's very transparent with her story on just like social media . Like she was like living in one city and then she decided to move back home to Chicago . Two weeks later she decided she didn't like that . Now she's living in Atlanta . She decided that she wanted to go to Italy randomly , so she got on a flight to Italy and like she'll go out dancing by herself Her sense of fashion is amazing and so I think it's really that , and even just the freeness of me asking her to be on the pod , and I'm like , ooh , I really want us to do it in person , but I know you're moving , my girl . I took a flight to Milwaukee and I was like , oh okay .

Speaker 1

So that's freedom , I think , the freedom to like , move about . So I think everything that you're explaining , the freedom like everything I hear you say , she's moving without looking for validation , she's moving without permission , she moves and does what she wants Absolutely . And I like , that is what I'm striving for and as much as like , I feel like I'm getting there , there are still parts of me that are like , should I , should I ? I don't know , and I think as an adult , it's a little bit harder , especially if you have kids . Right , you have to think about money and responsibility and whatnot , but that's where I'm trying to get .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I think we're all trying to get there and I think it's so funny because before we started recording , you mentioned like I think you said that you think that I have like main character energy with like my podcast and like doing this whole consultant thing . And I'm like girl who you ? I definitely don't think I have main character energy the things that I've done . It took me so long to do them , literally on . I think it was my very first episode of my podcast , which is crazy .

Speaker 2

I mentioned like I had wanted to do a podcast for like six months before I ever recorded one . I had bought all the equipment , set it up and just walked back and forth past it my whole life . The consulting idea , literally the website that I attached . I had made it like a year ago . Oh really , yes , I just like maybe shifted some things around on it , but I made that website maybe not a year , but like five , six months prior to yesterday when I decided to launch the business . And it's just this belief of like being afraid to compete when thinking about main characters . They know that they don't already . So that's why I kind of feel like I'm in limbo .

Speaker 1

So I'm thinking about two things as you're talking about this . Number one , who are you competing with , Right and B ? Why do you

Overcoming Creative Perfectionism

Speaker 1

think you get in your own way so much ?

Speaker 2

So one the first question who am I competing with ? I am competing with the finished product of the vision that I see in my head , because I know what I've seen God give me as my podcast platform . I've seen myself in front of audiences . I've seen myself , you know , meeting people like doing things , facilitating things , being of influence . I've seen , and I see , other people who have podcasts that are there already . I've seen that . But I also see where I am now and I don't know how that is possible for me to get there .

Speaker 1

Yeah , like I see this and I see here . Yeah , I don't .

Speaker 2

And it's like , yeah , how am I supposed to do that when I can't afford high tech editing equipment and I don't know how to . I don't have the time to learn how to do all of these things and you know , you have to do it by yourself first . But it's also like I got my two little studio lights , but I don't really know much about lighting , I just turn them on and hope things happen , so that , and then also , if I'm being completely honest , there is comparison to the way that I see other people live out there . Yeah , things , and I think Is it a perfection Like ?

Speaker 1

are you not a perfectionist ? But is it like what if it isn't as good ? Instead of like , mine's going to be different because it's mine .

Speaker 2

So I think it's a combination . So I think for me it's like I know the content that I have is this quality , and the way that I put it out there I wanted to match it . I wanted to look like the quality of information , and I also know like in this day and age , people are very drawn to things that are aesthetically attractive , and if I don't feel like something looks good enough , I don't think people will listen to what I have to say .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so Okay , I mean , and that's . I feel that I have a friend who recently created a business for women to help in sales . Is that Amy , amy , yeah , oh , yeah , amy , yeah , let's see , let's shatter . Hey , amy , and she I remember her talking about like she needed everything to be a certain way and we were talking about podcasting . She's like I'd want to let all the episodes out . I want to record all the episodes , and she's like and then you just like do it and throw it out there . She's like , and there's something about that that drives me crazy and I wish I could do that . But she's also very like she has a whole different way of doing things . Like put all her stuff together and had a team not a team , but like had people that helped her .

Speaker 1

And in my head I'm like , man , I wish I was that driven . Yeah , whereas , like I don't know if I don't have the patience , I'm like I'm just going to figure it out , I'm just going to throw it out there and see what happens . Same , because it's a combination of my own authentic self . Yeah , and I do love watching content creators or creators that are literally just authentically figuring it out and they're showing the public and figuring this out . And then I also love people who , like they got it all together . I'm like , how did you get those links on there ? Like I've thought French has her sculpting systems and like you've clicked on her link and she has all these other links and I'm like , how does she do that ? Yeah , do I reach out ? Do I figure it out myself ? Like I just keep seeing things that I think would be great , but , like you , that I just could maybe overwhelm myself , yeah , and I'm like I don't even know what to do . Like , what do I do now ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , and I think a large part of that is being okay , reaching out and asking for help yeah , because most times people are going to say yes , we overthink small things . And it's like just ask them , nine times out of 10 , people are going to say yes or like I don't know , so that I think it's that simple , there's nothing else to it . Also , just deciding where you are going to , because if I know that I want something to be a certain way , it's like okay , no matter what , you have to commit to the process of getting there . And I think main character energy also reminds me of the saying of like dancing in the rain . Yeah , like that's a part of being the main character . You don't get to decide the setting of the dancing in the rain . Yeah , like that's a part of being the main character . You don't get to decide the setting of the story all the time , but if you're the main character , you got to make it a story to pay attention to . Yeah .

Speaker 1

Like sometimes it's going to work and sometimes it's going to flop . Yeah , sometimes this episode like I have some episodes that have so many listeners and others that have like 10 . And I'm like , was it the time I posted ? Was it the season I posted ? I hate that . I hate the whole algorithm thing now . Yeah , like I don't understand . But I'm also just trying to embrace , I'm putting out into the universe what I want and I know

Why People React to Your Shine

Speaker 1

it's going to eventually do what it needs to be . Yeah , go , yeah .

Speaker 1

So , speaking of all of that , let's talk about shining bright , yes , and what we think of . So when we shine bright , often we trigger other people . And I know , on our last week's episode we talked about friendships and you are very blessed to have people around you who are like , hoorah , you got this . I feel like most people in my life are like go get them , you got it , whatever . But I have noticed there's certain things that I do or say or act that trigger others and I don't always know , trigger them negatively . Yeah , but I don't , and they're not mad about it , but it's stuff that they say to me like , oh , I could never do that or oh , why would you do that or why would you post that ? Or why do you even care to ?

Speaker 1

Because , like , I got really into TikTok again because I was bored and I don't know anyone on there . So I just started like posting a bunch of stuff on there every day and it became fun because I wasn't , I was literally not worried about anyone watching . And I was talking to some friends and they were like , oh , you're doing TikTok , like isn't that whatever , whatever . And I was like oh , so like to me , that is , I'm triggering something in them that they think it's stupid or a waste of time . We're like , when you're shining bright , when you're trying new things , when you're just like out there doing it , why do you think I mean I feel like I'm asking kind of a dog question , but we can talk about it why do you think that triggers other people so much when you're doing things that ? Why do you think they even think they need an opinion ? Well , am I asking too many questions ?

Speaker 2

I'm trying to figure out which one .

Speaker 1

Okay .

Speaker 2

Where to put my brain , okay , so I think you're asking , like , why are other people giving their opinions about what you do ? I'm just going to go back to the good old saying of like people , be haters .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

People be haters and you know what's even more crazy , sometimes they don't realize it . And I did one of my live events . I did , I had a whole talk about this . I forget what it was called , but like we have points in our lives where we haters a little bit , I think overly criticizing someone is just being a hater .

Speaker 2

Yes , I believe that and you may not be hating on the thing like , oh , I wish I could dance , oh , I wish I knew TikTok it could be like some part of your subconscious or deep within you is like dang , this bitch really don't care , and I care so much I wish I could not care .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's real you know and they haven't addressed that and it's taken . This has been a season of just honesty with myself and I've pulled out parts of those that I noticed within myself . It's like you're overly critical of someone because they're doing what they have to do , but the problem is they're free and you're not . You're bound because you're still inside this box and they are not caring . They don't even care about your—nobody's thinking about you . No , we all think that we're just so special and like everyone's always thinking about us .

Speaker 2

No one cares and I actually had that advice for someone just about , like , public speaking , like , oh , people who get nervous speaking in front of crowds , and I'm like here's what you have to remember . They don't care about you , they care about what you're saying . Yeah , they're not even looking at . Most of the time , people are waiting on it to be over . So it's like no one cares about you . They care about what you're saying . They're not even looking at . Most of the time , people are waiting on it to be over . So it's like no one cares about you . They care about what you're saying . But , yeah , I think it's that in those types of situation is they just ? They just have their haters and it may be undiagnosed .

Speaker 1

Well , and I think what what you said is they don't even realize they are being a hater by saying , giving their opinion , whatever , putting their shit on you . Yeah , that it's like . But I just noticed the more I'm in my main character , the more I'm shining bright . You do attract . Well , you attract a lot of people . Yeah , attract a lot of positive and you also attract a lot of negative , and I've just really been trying to figure out how to handle that , but I think you don't . I was going to say I think what you said about just like OK , yeah , you don't handle it .

Speaker 2

You realize too like we just live in a huge energy field , like Earth is just a huge force field . Yeah , and it really is like we're energetically connected to people . And so I think my favorite poem I say all the time is Our Deepest Fear , by Marianne Williamson , and she says as you let your own light shine , you unconsciously give other people permission to do the same . Yes , as you're liberated from your own fears , your presence automatically liberates others . If you are shining long enough , you will draw out darkness , you will draw out negativity . If you are negative long enough , like that's what's going to come to you , and you have to know , you have to decide which you want , and you have to also understand that those feelings fluctuate . You're not always going to be fucking roses and daisies and sunshine . You're going to be negative , you're going to be pessimistic sometimes , and we have to just accept the flow . We try to manipulate energy too much . Well , not energy , because I feel like you can't manipulate energy , but we try to manipulate just what naturally is . If today you feel like going to the gym and lifting weights , do that . If tomorrow you just feel like going for a walk , do that . If today you feel like sitting on the couch eating Cheetos , watching a movie . That's fine too , but I think that's the whole thing too , with trust in yourself . I know that I am a healthy person who cares about my body , so if I want to go and eat me a steak , dinner's what I'm gonna do , because I know tomorrow I'm probably gonna eat a salad . Yeah , like it's it's . Everything is a balance , everything is yin , and that's the same thing with energy and people , and I think that's what helps .

Speaker 2

I know we talked about friendship yesterday , with having friends . They have to understand that about the friendship , about you , about them . So it's just deciding you , deciding on people who understand that . And that's where friendship relationship has to be considered , because we don't necessarily want somebody that's exactly like us . We have to think about values . So do they feel like a main character and their values do they align with yours ? You know I recently had to discover my values and it told me a lot .

Recognizing When You're Misaligned

Speaker 2

Yeah , you know I recently had to discover my values and it's helped me a lot . Yeah , it's helped me a lot about people that I'm close to , people that I have decided not to be as close to , and why . And it's like yeah , that's why I don't really fool with that , or that's why I really love being in this place or this and I , anything like . I have my values and I'm looking for jobs that align with my values friends , relationship aligning with my value . Everything my dog got to align with my values yeah , he does .

Speaker 1

So , speaking of values and the people , do you notice a feeling in your body ? Or have you noticed a feeling in your body when you're around the people that are aligning with you or like this is feel , this feels good , this matches . Have you noticed any ? Um notice feelings so this is I'm gonna say no , no , you haven't like that weird gut , or that so okay .

Speaker 2

so I'm gonna say I don't feel the feelings , or maybe I don't pay attention to them . When I'm in places where I'm aligned , but when I am not , that is when I feel . When I'm not in a place that I am supposed to be in , that's when I start to notice my body . And so , in that sense , when I don't feel anything , when I don't feel the anxiety , that's when I know I'm in a safe and aligned space . But when I'm in spaces where I'm picking up , like my spidey senses are tingling , that's when I feel .

Speaker 1

So I'm so happy you said that , because I meant to say something yesterday and I totally forgot . I thought about it today how , like , when you're in environments around certain people that you're not supposed to be , like God will literally make everything go wrong and we'll just keep like fixing it and it's just . It's insane , like in hindsight of things like even jobs I've been in that I shouldn't have been . It was like I would gain weight in certain jobs . I didn't have the right friends , I lacked all motivation and , like you will start losing things around you and it won't always be right away , like it won't always be big . Yeah , but I think that's another thing to pay attention to . Like , when you're in certain places , are there certain things that are happening to me ? Yeah , are there certain things going wrong that I'm trying to explain away or fix away ? And like , no , he's trying to be like you're not supposed to be here and I'm trying to give you some signs ? Yes , but I know you keep looking for another sign . Yep , I'm just going to keep sending them .

Speaker 2

Yep , and I feel like , with God it has a funny way , because you'll be like oh , I need a sign , why do I know I'm not supposed to be here ? And then something you feel in your body , something happens . You know , somebody does something that makes you feel a way , and then you're like , well , help me understand them . Maybe that wasn't the thing Help me . Or maybe you feel like God didn't put you there to fix the problem . It's like , no , no , that is not the case .

Speaker 1

And so I think , recognizing that , like trust , trust , trust trusting yourself is so key , but you can't trust yourself until you are loving of yourself and you are consistent and you are doing the things that you should be , that you should be doing so in align with that , what you just said , and I've been going deeper and deeper into , like reading the Bible and like sticking with it and like understanding what faith looks like Okay , like true faith , like walking in faith , and I've been trying to figure out , like , what is faith ? What like ? What does that mean to me ? And right now it means understanding that I don't know what's going to happen . But the more I'm walking in places that make me feel happy , peaceful , like accepting the unknown is going to happen and it might be good and it might be bad , and I am just going to walk into that instead of and I don't know if you're like this , but like I get a lot of I get anxious with the unknown , like , oh my gosh , I wish I knew how this was going to play out .

Speaker 1

I wish I knew how this person was going to act . That understanding and that , to me , the more I'm living in faith , is helping me live that main character energy . It's helping me shine bright , because it's kind of giving me that permission . I'm going to be loud and

Faith as Main Character Practice

Speaker 1

I'm going to be okay and I'm going to be here and I'm just going to have faith that he is going to guide me . He , she is going to guide me where I need to go , and I think for so long I tried having control of situations , yeah , so I don't know if you're taking faith or if you want to take on it . So , first of all , congratulations .

Speaker 2

Thank you On that journey . I hope that it is beautiful , it's been beautiful , but I think faith is super important , and that is a muscle that I don't think I have flexed yet . I think I am still trying to figure out what I have faith for .

Speaker 1

Mm-hmm .

Speaker 2

You know I struggle . My anxiety makes me struggle to decide . One minute I want to do this . The next minute I want to do that . The next minute I'm trying to do this , but then I feel bad because now I'm neglecting that , and so I think I need to have the faith to decide . Maybe the decision is faith . Faith is that you can do all of these things , even if you start with this one and you just have to trust it's going to unfold ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , and I don't . And so I'm working on understanding faith first , building in it and then living a faithful life . Yeah , so I know I need to . I know the beauty of it and it sounds good , but the work I know is very difficult .

Speaker 1

It sounds good , but the work is hard , I will say . Last November I started doing soap , so I read a scripture verse .

Speaker 2

I observe oh , I thought you were going to make it soap . I thought you were going to make it , so I thought you were going to make it , so you got any here . I should Maybe that way next year .

Speaker 1

I'm sure I was like , okay , no , but I love that perspective , yeah . But like , I just started doing that every day , like so I would write a Bible verse , I'd analyze it , like what it means to me , and then I'd pray on it and it would take me 10 minutes and I didn't know what I was doing with it . I just knew I wanted to get closer to God . I didn't necessarily I don't necessarily go to church . My church is with him in nature . My church is talking to him .

Speaker 1

Being a gay woman , like the Bible was used against me a lot . I grew up in a white , very conservative Christian family , so I'm trying to understand it for me , and so that's how my journey started , because I wanted to have this relationship and not have people tell me how to do it , and so it's one of those things . I started it last November and I am so thankful . I didn't know what I was doing when I started it . Yeah , and it has . I felt like that's one thing that has saved me through a lot of weird dark moments , mm-hmm , because I could just count on that , and every day I would be like I'm just going to randomly pick a verse , and it was like that verse spoke to me that day . Wow , and so for me , that's how my faith started growing .

Speaker 1

But again , my purpose for it was to understand all of this . Yeah , through the lens of everyone says being gay is a sin and this and that , and people accepting you or not accepting you . And I was like you know what ? I'm tired of people telling me what the Bible says or what Christianity says and I'm just going to go study it myself Because I don't know about you . But I feel like you and I are self-teachers . Yeah , like this podcasting stuff , like I'm just going to go on YouTube , I'm just going to buy some stuff and figure it out , and so that's where my faith has gotten stronger . And even like being willing to talk about it on my podcast or with people , or talking about like I also pull tarot cards and I Right , like I kind of do everything . I see everything as spiritual , I see everything as something larger talking to me , and that's how slowly I've been living in . This faith of this is working , this is bringing me peace , this is working . But again , I started that for myself because I wanted to just understand differently .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and I think , however you approach faith , faith is a practice . Faith isn't a religious doctrine . Yeah , yes , and so , however you get to the work of faith , yeah , like , do that , right , like , I don't think we even have to make faith religious , it's a practice . You know what ? Right , like , I don't think we even have to make faith religious , it's a practice . You know what I mean ? You be having faith that you know a male might turn out . Right , that's real If he's trying , you know .

Speaker 2

But I think that is a part of main character . Energy is having faith . It's moving in faith . It's dending in the rain , it's being free , it's not being bound . It's also being receptive to like I actually might fuck up , I might say something wrong , I might do something wrong . Hell , you might go into the religious aspect of faith and realize I need to actually be more in line with this text , and you never know . But you won't know until you try and you can't be afraid . And I think sometimes , when we think about main character energy , we feel like there's people behind us that are like less than Main character . Energy does not mean that you have people that are beneath you or love with you or you're better than anyone . It just means like , in this space , in this season , this is where I shine .

Speaker 1

So I also see main character energy as this is my own life . Yeah , I am my best friend . I will die my own best friend . I have great people around me , but no one else is living this life . Yeah , no one else is showing up the way I show up for me , absolutely . And so if I'm doing that because this is my life , then no one can be behind me , because your life is your life , my friend's life , like I want my friends to live main character energy , because I'm noticing the more people I surround myself with that shine bright in positive ways .

Speaker 1

That's where , like , real power is , and not like power , like we're going to take it on , but like power to like make change , power to create beauty , power to be creative , power to push other people to like do the best they can . And so that's where I'm like , I think your podcast , which is why I wanted to collaborate with you on this , because I feel like when you think about how many lives can you positively impact , like , that to me is real power . It doesn't need to be loud , and so , yeah , maybe a couple of people listen to my podcast and every once in a while , like twice a month , I'll get a text from a random friend or someone at work and they'll be like . I stumbled upon your podcast and couldn't believe it and I was like oh , my like , it makes me feel so good .

Speaker 1

And that was my purpose for this . Maybe you can talk about why you got into your podcast , but , like , I got into it because friends said I like what you have to say and you should do this or that . I think you and I both talked about like life coaching and all the things , and so , like , this was the only way for me to , right now , throw some advice out there and maybe someone wants to hear about . Yeah , and it'll reach who it's supposed to . Yeah , why did you start yours ?

Speaker 2

You

The Power of Positive Impact

Speaker 2

know , what's so crazy is I don't even . It was just deposited into me , right , because I started my podcast in 2020 . And it wasn't podcasts weren't big then . I think people were just starting to , and I don't even know Just got locked in . Yeah , I don't even know where I got the influence from , yeah , but God was just like you're going to do a podcast , and so I was just needing I was holding a lot . You know , I was new . I wasn't as new , but I was in Milwaukee I'm not from here I was struggling to , like , find trust .

Speaker 2

The community Life was just , really , it was in a strange place and I just needed an outlet to be honest , and I didn't use my voice a lot . Growing up , I told you I don't like confrontation , and so I never knew how to have difficult conversations . So my podcast was where I would have difficult conversations , just like without directly saying it to a person . But a lot of the times when I'm talking , it's an experience that I've had or it's something that I've been through and there's someone that I have in my mind , that I'm articulating to , and so it gave me . I'll say whatever I needed to say , without the confrontation of , like you know the person or the people , and people were just like yeah , yeah , me too . And I was like oh , I thought that was what was up , right , so I just love .

Speaker 1

Oh , I don't know what was wrong , right . So I just love like that's one of my favorite things , yeah , and so I think that your , what you do , just talking about different experiences that you have , like that really positively impacts you , yeah , and that gives people permission to like , oh my gosh , I feel that way too . I'm not alone . And I think that's the biggest thing is so many people feel alone in their own emotion or they don't know how to be vulnerable or speak about it , and so , like listening to other people just say like , yeah , this is my thing too . It's like , oh , I'm not , that's really cool that I'm not there . So I'm encouraging everybody find your main character , energy , shine bright . Find what you have faith in or whatever faith means to you . Listen to Universal Tease . She's got a new season three coming out . Do you have a date ?

Speaker 2

I do not have an exact date , but it's coming , it's in the works . Okay , it'll be August 2025 . So I got some guests that I'm going to be recording and then me and be talking about a few things .

Speaker 1

I like guests because I feel like we learn from each other Absolutely . I can talk all day long , but when we're having shared experiences , then it's like oh my gosh .

Speaker 2

And perspective . You need perspective . We get so stuck in what we believe is true that we never think of outside perspective . I love a good moment where somebody shares something with me and I'm like , huh , I was just in this one track mindset and you just gave me a whole different avenue , like it just opens up so much more for you mentally .

Speaker 1

I love that . I 100% agree with that . Well , is there anything else you would like listeners to know about main character energy , or shining bright

Turn Your Light Switch On

Speaker 1

, or just being themselves ?

Speaker 2

I would say you already shine bright . You just have to turn the light switch on . It's there , Whether you believe it or not . No matter what situation you're in , no matter how much money is in your bank account , no matter where you live , no matter what your job is , we all have a light that exists . You just have to have the courage and the faith to turn the switch on .

Speaker 1

Yeah , just turn it on and light will . What is it outshine ? Darkness , mm-hmm . Every time , yep , like every time . So I really appreciate you being on and coming over and having some backyard conversations . This has really been kind of a highlight and I will say , before this happened , this was one of those like I'm really doing this , really , like I want to have a little mini-series with you and it's going to happen , and then this felt like a very big accomplishment for me .

Speaker 2

I love that Little old me , little old me over here . I love that .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so I want to thank you for that . So now you got to come over to Universal TV . I got to fill out my form . I'll just text you . Okay , text me . I would love to come on , even though I always love your lives Absolutely , I'm always like you know what's happening .

Speaker 2

I can't wait . I'm always in the lives , yeah , in their lives . Yet I'm getting back y'all . I'm coming out of the darkness myself .

Speaker 1

Yes , Be good . We all need a season to relax , and then we get new ideas . Yeah , so all right y'all . Thank you for joining us . I hope you pulled some bits out of here . Healing , what is healing ? Loving yourself deeply , how ? Who do you surround yourself with Friendships and then , of course , realize your power ? Because you are amazing and they are so , so worth it .

Speaker 2

Yes , and we need you here no-transcript .