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Trauma Expert Britt Frank Shares Practical Tips for Healing from Trauma and PTSD

• Season 3 • Episode 25

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Mandi sits down with neuro-psychotherapist and author Britt Frank, LSCSW, SEP for a powerful and down-to-earth conversation about navigating healing after trauma. Together, they explore how our inner critic can feel overwhelming, why safety is the foundation of healing, and what it means to practice “trauma turtle rolls”— the small, grounding actions that carry us through tough moments until conditions improve.

They share their real-life experiences with anxiety, affirmations, and even breathwork: what helps, what doesn’t, and why it’s okay if your healing doesn’t look like anyone else’s. Whether you’re managing PTSD, C-PTSD, or simply the waves of everyday stress, this conversation reminds you: healing happens in safe places, and even the smallest choices can bring peace.

Resources

Britt Frank’s books:


  • The Science of Stuck


  • The Getting Unstuck Workbook


  • Align Your Mind


Britt Frank’s website: brittfrank.com


Follow Britt on Instagram: @brittfrank


Connect with Mandi:

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 To either have PTSD or C-P-T-S-D requires that you are in fact post danger. So whether it's complex post-traumatic issues or post-traumatic issues, post means the thing is now over. So if you're still in a domestically violent situation, you're not gonna have C-P-T-S-D or PTSD. You're going to be in a dangerous environment where you are currently experiencing trauma.

The goal would be to get to the. Place where A-P-T-S-D diagnosis will, will fit. So sort of, I dunno if it's ironic, but it's just interesting that the presence of a trauma diagnosis is a sign that you are in fact safe and that becomes medicine. I. Hey, brave one. Welcome to the Aware and Prepared Podcast.

I'm your host, Mandy Pratt, trauma-informed, resilient speaker, domestic violence victim advocate, and narcissistic abuse survivor. Here we keep it real with true crime stories and real world strategies to prevent emotional and physical harm. My guests and I share a mix of insight and survivor grit, all to help you feel safer, trust yourself more deeply.

And live with greater peace and power. Let's trade fear for freedom and step into the peace that you deserve.

Okay, welcome back to the Aware and Prepared Podcast. I am super excited to have Britt Frank back here with us again. Hi. Hi. It's so good to see you again. Thanks for having me back on. Thank you. So she has been on here with us before and that was a very popular episode, um, because she has some great things to say.

So first of all, just share with us real quick what I mean, you are amazing. So you are a therapist, but you're also writing books and you're also all of these things and you're such a high level expert. So can you just like in a line or two share about that? My inner critic is going, does she really actually know me?

No, no, no, no. But wait, there's more. So, um, I'm a licensed psychotherapist and a trauma expert. Um, my books are The Science of Stuck and Align Your Mind, which just came out this year. And I'm also A-C-P-T-S-D-P-T-S-D, you know, survivor of a long list of. Really bad, horrible, terrible things. So I don't just sit here in my nice tidy office and look at people and go, oh, what's wrong with them?

I came to this work through my own healing process, which is still ongoing. Sidebar, we're never done. Yes. I love that. Right. It's like not a one and done like mm-hmm. I've reached the end of the marathon and here we are. Everything's better. Right. Exactly. It is a journey and I am still very much on it. Yes, I get it.

Yeah. Thank you. I'm right there with you. And this in fact is a follow up from the solo episode I did, um, where I was sharing more about my journey and what having come. Plex, PTSD looks like for me in my body, in my business, with my relationships. So today I figured having you on here, we would just kind of go over for those of us who have gone through things that have formed that into complex PTSD, how do you parse out, or is that even necessary?

Now, what parts are our personality? What parts are the complex PTSD? So, just as an example, um, in the past, in my last episode, I was sharing with my own journey. I notice I context shift all the time. So I am like, do this, do that, and my brain just can't, like, ah, it's kind of all over the place. And I know, you know, my personality is more of an introvert.

Not like super introverted, but a little bit. And then I'm kind of a creative artist type, so I know that sometimes, you know, that can be part of my personality, but I feel like it's like amplified. Due to complex PTSD and thinking of the other people listening. Does that make sense? It does, and I think that having any type of trauma, and if you're listening and you're like, well, do I have complex PTSD or regular PTSD or whatever, what we call it, is less important than the ex.

Experience. If you're, if you're struggling, if you're suffering, if you are looking at your reactions and going, this isn't who I am, is this just my personality? It's really important to know that the things that we call bad parts of our personality are often protective. And I'll give you an example. So technically, if you're just looking at my symptoms, I have lots of things I have.

A-D-H-D-I have OCD, I have all, you know, I would probably meet criteria for some spectrum types of stuff as well. 'cause there's a lot of overlap with that and trauma. So like which thing is actually my personality and which thing is trauma? I don't know. And more importantly, I don't know if we need to focus on, is this my personality versus is this behavior thought pattern, whatever.

Something that I think is a good choice for my life goals is it aligns with the person I effort to be. So in other words, if you, when I was leaving a domestic violence situation, I was so jittery, like a stiff breeze would make me jump out of my skin, and so is it. Am I just, is this my personality now? Am I just a jumpy person who cries if someone bumps into me from around the corner?

Well, I don't know if that's part of my personality, but I know I don't enjoy that reaction, and so I chose to work on that reaction in therapy. One of the other things that happened as a result of my history is I'm super, I'm a sensory seeker. Now, whether that's autism or trauma, I don't really care. I am a sensory seeker.

I don't really have a problem with that. Having fidgets and all kinds of things to mess with doesn't really interrupt how I wanna show up in the world. If I have a fidget rock, like, cool, so could I go to therapy and figure out why I need to sensory stem? I don't know what's, it doesn't bother me, so I'm not gonna mess with it.

Sure. And so I'd focus less on is this just who I am? And change that question to. Is this behavior one that I choose to accept, or am I going to choose to try to either accommodate it or to do something else with it? But I would much rather us all focus on our choices than defining ourselves by our symptoms or our stories.

I love that. That's so awesome. Thank you. And I was wondering too what your thoughts are on, I've heard this before, that if you have complex PTSD, sometimes you know you are a little bit. More neurodivergent. Um, I've heard it as like acquired Neurodivergence. Yeah. So we all love our labels so much. And I know, right?

Isn't that funny? Go on. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. And wanted to bring up too, I know that something. That I've heard about and very much resonate with is that functional hyper vigilance. So I give an example in my last episode of, you know, we were at a restaurant with my mom and my son and somebody started choking and they needed like the Heimlich maneuver, you know?

And I'm like, no problem. I jumped over to it and I was calm, but everybody else is frozen going, wait what is happening right now? But I was already like. On it because I think I was so like stuck in hypervigilance. I'm always ready to like, where's the lion I need to run from? Right? So I'm already up there and then I can just.

Do that. It's weird. And is that part of your personality or is that an acquired neurodivergence? I don't know. Does it bother you that you're good in a crisis is a better question, right? I'm going with probably not. Does it bother you that relaxing might be more challenging, maybe? Right. And so we would want, 'cause I hear that all the time, just like, this is just who I am now and what we know about brains is that's just not really true because.

The brain you have can change and you could grow new neurons and create new pathways. And so getting focused on, what is this called? And is this me is an interesting question. But if we focus on that question, we're gonna end up going down a rabbit hole that's not gonna necessarily lead us anywhere where we feel empowered and in our choice power and mm-hmm.

In a place where changes to the degree that they're available can be made. Right. Right. So, like you were saying, it's all about choices and is this something that I want to continue or is this something that I want to maybe work on in therapy? Like you were talking about? If that's a choice. Yeah. If you have seven kids at home and you're taking care of aging parents and you live on a farm with cattle and I'm just making stuff up, and horses that all need to be tended to, your choices are probably gonna be more limited, and that's when you'd wanna really triage and go, all right, what's the most.

Crucial thing that I need to address and what are my resources to support it. But your choices are gonna look a lot different than mine, and that's based on lifestyle, genetics, privilege, access. There's a lot of factors. So it's not even, you know, do I want to choose to change this? It's, here's all my stuff.

Here's all the stuff I like. Here's all the stuff that I'm not super thrilled with. What are my choices and my. Legitimate resources for change. I would love to take six months and go into the mountains and meditate and work on all my stuff. Yeah, that's not a viable choice for me right now. I suppose it could be.

I'm not willing to make that choice. Right. Um, so then it's of your choices. What are you willing to do in service of what you want? Because a lot of times we say we're stuck, but that's not because we don't have choices. It's 'cause we don't like them. And that's really different. That's so true. Yeah. Yeah, I like that too.

How you were saying, our brains, and I know this, and I mentioned this a couple times recently, I have a neuromuscular disorder and we work on a couple things in pt. To help my brain break out of that rut that it does. And I notice, you know, like I have this one exercise where I hold the tennis ball and I focus on the letter on the tennis ball, and then I move my head to the right, move my head to the left, you know?

And so my brain is, we're working on those things with neuroplasticity, and it just blows my mind that during that time when I was really working on those things. It actually calmed my nervous system and I was like, whoa. Oh my gosh. So like not only are we, are we helping with the neuromuscular disorder, but we're also helping with the nervous system.

You know, that was pretty wild to me, just to see what the brain is capable of. That's why I wish there wasn't such a divide between occupational therapy and, you know, working with people who have autism spectrum behaviors because there's so much overlap. Not necessarily, I'm not saying they're the same, but there's a lot of overlap in the tools because when I was a play therapist, I had to go to very specialized occupational therapy sites to get certain pieces of gear, like compression gear and weight blankets.

And now those are mainstream, but they weren't always. And if you didn't know that, that. That's for this thing. All of the things are, let's just assume all of the tools can be useful and that can be overwhelming 'cause you, you know, diagnosis and labels are good to know, kind of a starting place. But just assume if something is good for your body, it's probably gonna be good for your brain too.

Yeah, exactly. I love that. And in your social media and then also in your books, you talk a lot about our inner critic. So I noticed in my own journey, and I'm sure in your journey too, it'll be interesting to hear what you say, but back in the past when I was getting out of the crazy situation I was in and trying to heal, it was a much harder.

Journey for me to handle that inner critic as it is now. Thank God. And I'm so thankful. But I mean, it's still a struggle because I'm human, but it's been so interesting to see that. So, um, I wanted to hear more about what you have to say about. Our lovely inner critic. Well, first of all, everyone has one, and so if you're listening and you have a particularly active inner critic, you're not alone and it doesn't make you crazy and it doesn't make you broken.

I like to think of our inner critic as speaking a language that we may not know. So if I go to a foreign country and I don't speak that language. I might say words that in my language means something very, very different. I could, I could say something like, where is the bathroom? But if I say it to someone who doesn't speak my language, how do they know that I'm not yelling at them?

How do they know that? I'm not telling them that they're the worst person in the whole world. They don't, because we have a language barrier here, and I think that. Primary dilemma with our inner critic is a language barrier. I wish we could hold like a, a Google Translate app or like to our inner critical thoughts, like translate, you know, you suck, you stink.

No one's gonna love you. Everything you do is bad. Why bother trying? So stay home and stay on the couch and don't get up. Right. Okay. Well like filter through brain critic translate, that might actually mean. I am overwhelmed and I am scared, and I really believe if we do nothing and stay small, that is the best chance for our survival.

So please, please, please keep us safe. Do nothing, say nothing, go nowhere, and attempt nothing. But if you understand that that's what the message means, you're gonna have a very different reaction than if you just assume that if you hear yourself think the thought, you're terrible, that must mean literally.

I'm terrible. We really, there's three mistakes that we make primarily when it comes to the inner critic. The first one is believing it is literal. So kind of like a toddler. If a hungry, tired, overtired, toddler says, I hate you. Any parents that has had. A decent amount of sleep and a little bit of resourcing support knows, okay, that's probably not an accurate assessment of my parenting, right?

This is a toddler I hate. You could mean I'm tired, I'm hungry, I need a nap, I need a snack. I'm overstimulated. So we're not gonna just listen to our inner critic and take it as gospel truth. So the first mistake we make, we listen to it. The second mistake we make is we just ignore it. It's like, I'm just gonna la la, la.

It's not there. I hear nothing. But to s, if you're gonna ignore things that are in your own head, you will need to use alcohol, drugs, workaholism, perfectionism, co-dependent, like you're going to need to do something unhealthy to keep ahead of a thought because you live inside your body and that's where the thoughts are.

And then the third mistake is fighting with it. So if I hear a little voice inside me, say, Brit, you're terrible. And I go, shut up. Inner critic. Get the F away from me. You are stupid. I'm actually yelling at myself. So when I see guidance online, banish your critic, tell your fear to F off. You tell that voice inside your head that she sucks.

I'm like, yeah, but that's you too. So you can't really yell at yourself and expect to feel better. It's not gonna worry. And isn't it true that it's so much better? I've noticed in my own healing journey that it is so much better to have compassion on yourself. So instead of doing that, like I imagine my little self, like as a five-year-old tugging on my shirt, you know, Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

You know, and it's gonna keep tugging on my shirt until I look at her and say, Hey, I see you. I know that you're just trying to get my attention and, but by actually addressing it, right, it's better than, like you were saying, fighting and just being like, go away. Go away. Go away. Right? Thinking of our critical inner voices as a five-year-old tugging on our shirt is such.

A more effective way to view the problem because it's a problem. Getting yelled at by yourself all day has real implications to it. It can cause higher cortisol, higher stress, which can cause inflammation, which can cause all kinds of things. If you're peri or post or menopausal in any way. All of those hormones, yes, same totally are going to really amp up some of those voices.

Really knowing I hear this thought does not mean this thought is literal, and it does not mean I have to believe this thought. I can get curious about the thought and see, oh, if this is coming from a 5-year-old, that's gonna land differently than if this is coming from the person I admire most in the entire world.

Totally. Yeah. That's how I just envision myself when I'm hearing those thoughts is. Hey, that's little Mandy, and she's trying to, you know, keep me safe because my brain, in the past, my brain needed chaos and my brain needed to feel scared because that was the norm for so long. And so. You know, to get unstuck from that was a bit of a journey.

Like, I remember asking myself and other people ask me like, how long did it take you to get better? You know, and to feel more grounded. And I'm like, oh geez. Like I. Like, that's such a hard question to answer because, you know, we're all different. We all have different experiences and we're all like, it's really important for you to get safe, you know, as you're trying to decompress, right?

And, um, help. Our nervous system and get into that. So what do you have to say about that? Well, what you just said was so important of that you have to get safe because to either have PTSD or C-P-T-S-D requires that you are in fact post danger. So whether it's complex post-traumatic. Issues or post-traumatic issues, post means the thing is now over.

And so when I learned that my C-P-T-S-D and my PTSD were actually incredibly, just the fact of having the diagnosis means that the danger is over because you can't have it while you're in it. So if you're still in a domestically violent situation, you're not gonna have C-P-T-S-D or PTSD. You're going to be in a dangerous environment where you are currently ex.

Experiencing trauma and the, the goal would be to get to the place where A-P-T-S-D diagnosis will, will fit. So sort of, I dunno if it's ironic, but it's just interesting that the presence of a trauma diagnosis is a sign that you are in fact safe and that becomes medicine. That's so interesting. Yeah. When I go out and speak, that's one of my slides.

Healing happens in safe places. 'cause I remember that myself and I have another slide I share too of like a bunch of waves and like a really active, you know, a set of waves coming in. And I remember that's what it felt like. Like I was, I left and I'm like trying to get safe with my little toddler, but things kept happening.

So like this. Abusive person would show up at my door, even though we had a restraining order. And you know, so it felt like being stuck in a set of waves, right? And like you get tumbled by the one, and then you come back up for air and you're like, and then you see the next one, you're like, oh, crap. Right?

So yeah, it was really difficult and I think that. For me, that's what led to the complex PTSD. 'cause I was like trying to get better in the middle of everything. And then, you know, and I had to remember too, like, what can I control here? I can't control who shows up at my door at 2:00 AM or who calls me nonstop 20 times, you know, and gives me an ultimatum as a form of manipulation.

You know, I can't control any of that, but what I can control is where I live. As best as I could. You know, I'm not 24 7 with this person as much anymore. I'm over here now, you know? And you know, even though this stuff is going to happen, like it's important for me to have that resourcing right, to get help and to have that space for myself.

So I made it. So important that once you know, my little toddler, I could finally get him to bed. And then my little toddler's now, 24 by the way, so this is quite a while ago, but, um, and he's like six foot three. But, um. Way back then, I remember, you know, getting him to bed and like my priority was like, okay, this is time right now where I take care of myself.

The dishes can wait till tomorrow and I need to look at my, I made myself like this little menu that my counselor had helped me make with what can I do right now for myself? Take a hot bubble bath. Talk with my best friend. You know, different things that I could choose. So it would kind of reset and kind of bring me back to, okay, I'm not in fight or flight right now.

I'm actually okay right now. And using that time for myself. So it was really important for me to do what I could, you know, to get myself into a. Safe place. Like not just physically, but also emotionally, where my brain could be like, ah, okay. You know, I have a moment. That was just really helpful. Even just those moments of breath.

If that's all you have, that's enough. You talked about having a set of waves. Do you surf by the way? That's very surfer. You know, it's so funny, I am always the beach person, so I love to watch like my son, you know, get out there, watch other people out there surfing. But I am like very happy on the sand.

Okay, so I am not a surfer. I've done it a few times and what they tell you is if you are stuck, like, you know, there's the, the waves are coming at you. Yes. You have to get past them where then you can sit on your board and Bob arounds like a little seagull and everything is beautiful and I remember.

Trying to get past where the waves are breaking is really hard. I could see my girlfriends who are experienced surfers and they're just sitting on their boards and they're just like, it's great and it's sunny and I am getting my butt kicked. I've got sand in my thing. Places long shouldn't go. I'm getting knocked every which way to Tuesday.

And I was really frustrated 'cause I'm like, I can't. Get past the break. These waves keep coming and I can't get out there. Okay, so what surf coaches will teach you to do is to change the goal. If you're stuck with waves breaking on your head, don't worry about getting all the way out to where you're sitting and bobbing and enjoying your.

That's not for this stage. Yeah. At this stage, our goal is simply hang on until conditions improve and surf co. I have a point here, I promise. Surf coaches will teach you a move called a turtle roll, and that's what. Yes, you're laying on your stomach on the board, and when the wave breaks, you duck under your board.

You hang on for dear life. The wave will go over you and then you catch your breath, you roll back on your board, and then you keep swimming. And then if another wave comes, you roll under. Okay, so sometimes our goal for healing is too lofty for the circumstances. Yes. When the waves are crashing on your head, a trauma turtle roll might not look like I get to heal.

Now, it might look like I get to take 30 seconds and go out back and like splash some water on my face. It might mean for 10 minutes I get to like scroll on my phone watching. Stupid memes on Instagram. Those are trauma turtle rolls. And are they going to solve the problem? No. Are they sometimes the thing that allows you to hang on until conditions improve, then?

Yes. 'cause once the waves stop crashing, you use that time to then paddle, where eventually you get to the safe zone where you're not tumbling and tumbling. But sometimes the expectations that we have of ourselves are way too high. Oh gosh. Totally. Yeah. I'm so, yes, I've had to learn that. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, it's all about just taking the baby steps and what's appropriate. Like you said, I love that the trauma turtle role, uhhuh and if like the menu that your therapist had you do. Yes, I would say the same thing. What does a trauma turtle role? Like if you're listening for you, like what are those stupid little things that don't solve anything?

And I'm not saying use drugs and drink a glass of wine. Yeah, totally. A glass of wine is not a turtle roll. Yes. A glass of wine is its own set of problems. And no, a turtle roll is just. Something that allows you to get from one moment to the next. It could be a friend, it could be a thought. It could even be the thought of I am still breathing, therefore there is still hope for me.

Like exactly there is breath in my lungs at this moment, which means I can get to the next moment. That's sometimes is a turtle world thought that, yep. Is all that you have and yeah, sometimes that's enough. Agreed. Yeah. And I found it so interesting too that I remember, um, I was doing breath work for the first time ever and I was like, okay, I don't know what I'm doing, but here I am, here we go.

And everybody there was like. Pretty good number of people there. 30, 40, 50, something like that. People, and I'm just over here by the tree, like trying to do that and it actually made me more panicky. Yeah, same. I don't like breath work. I still don't. Yeah. Yeah. So it's so interesting to hear too, with a trauma turtle roll, it could be not the norm.

So for me, like I don't think I will ever do that again. But something for me that helps is just simply. A quick little, you know, like a double exhale when I inhale, double exhale. I can do that. So easy, right? I feel like that's even easier than box breathing, um, for me or some of the other things. Also, can I that for a second?

Because the breath thing is so real and I know so many abuse survivors who shame themselves for not being able to do breath work. So first my disclaimer is breath work is wonderful and there are trauma-informed, competent breath work. Facilitators and it's a beautiful modality. Okay, that's my disclaimer.

I'm not antib breath work. I don't do it, and it's not something I care about enough to try to do. Box breathing puts me in a panic zone, even an inhale with two exhales it my body, I have a trigger warning. You know, part of my history involves strangulation trauma, and so anywhere I feel like I'm being forced to breathe in a way, I'm just like, Uhuh not doing it.

And so I like to smell essential oils and that's still a breath work, exercise. Yeah. It's just not a box breathing or a 5, 7, 8, or whatever. People are doing holding and counting and whatnot, and so give yourself a break. Your trauma, maternal roles might not look like quote unquote, socially prescribed types of things, but Okay.

If they're not hurting, hurting anyone, including you. So what exactly I love it. Yeah, and even like, tell me if this. True for you and what you have found and what you help others with. But I found even with like affirmations, you know, like, let's take the one, like I am enough, right? And so I will, you know, write that on my sticky note, put it on my desk or something, and I look at it and my brain just goes like, but it doesn't feel like that my, my brain wants to like fight it.

So I feel like a better affirmation would be. Something that makes my brain curious, like what if I felt like right? I love that. I am enough is a tricky one because what does that even mean? Enough of what I know. Maybe that wasn't a good example to you. No, it's a perfect, it's a perfect example. Oh. 'cause that's the type of act.

I, I mean, totally perfect. Right on with what we're talking about. Because if you're trying to trauma turtle roll with an affirmation that makes no sense to you, it's not gonna work. Right. Like I am enough. Doesn't work for me either. 'cause I'm like, I don't For what? For whom? For everyone. 'cause I'm proudly.

I'm probably not enough for some people, and that's okay. And I'm probably too much for others and that's okay too, right? So we want to make sure it's something that is custom. I love what you said about curiosity. You know what if da, da, da da, da is a great affirmation? Sometimes an affirmation is just, I'm still alive, therefore Exactly.

I can keep going. It could be simple. If it's true and it makes sense to you and it's useful, go for it. Yeah. Just because something is considered positive thinking doesn't mean it's gonna be helpful. Exactly. Yeah. I know. I have a, a better sticky note I put on my desk and it says I am safe. I am loved.

Mm-hmm. I am free, and like I said, this has been a long time since I was going through the majority of that trauma, but a lot of times. I stick the word becoming. Love that. I love that I'm becoming safe. Mm-hmm. I'm becoming, I love that. Loved, I am becoming free, you know? And then my brain goes, oh, okay. I love it.

That's no. Sure. And I feel like it starts looking for those things and instead of like fighting it, you know? Mm-hmm. I am a person who is a good one. I'm a person who values movement. And so I'm not saying I love to run 'cause I don't, I'm not saying I exercise every day 'cause I don't. I am a person who values movement is true.

And so if that's a sticky and I'm laying on my couch. Brains don't like dissonance, meaning brains don't like that. I say this, but I'm doing this. Right, and so What's that? Yeah. Eventually, if you continue to affirm, I am a person who values movements, your choices align up with that, and so we want it to be true and relevant and helpful, so yeah, I love it.

Yeah. As we wrap up, I want to just. Talk about your books. Look, I have all three of them right here. Oh, yay. Thank you so. Explain to us. You first of all, wrote the first one and then what happened? I wrote the first one, the science of stuck, which breaks down all the myths that keep, you're not lazy, you're not crazy.

Here's what anxiety is, and here's what stuck really is. Then after that, the workbook, you know, I like exercises and sometimes I don't wanna read the story of the recipe. I just wanna know how much flour. I don't need the seven pages of, here's how I milled the flour to get it. So this the workbook, the Getting unstuck workbook of.

Very, very specific. If you have this particular stuckness in dating and fitness with family, with finances, whatever, here are things that can be useful. So it's the quick and dirty. Do these things and then align. Your mind just came out this past spring and it's about all those voices inside your head and how to help them get along better.

Cool. So that last one aligned, your mind kind of goes along with what we were talking about with the inner critic. Yeah. I love it. So thank you for that. There, they're, oh, that's, that's so, yeah. So I, um, would love for you to share how people can follow you. I love your social media. I follow you on Instagram.

Oh, thank you. You can find me on Instagram. It's just my name at Britt Frank and Britt has two ts or my website, brit frank.com. And you can buy the book wherever books are sold. Any of you know, local booksellers, Amazon, target, you know, wherever you buy books, you can probably find it. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for being on here with us.

We appreciate you and we really appreciate all your work. Thank you, Bri. Thank you so much. Love seeing. You're welcome. Thanks for being here on the Aware and Prepared Podcast. Don't forget to hit, follow that little plus sign in your app in the top right, ensures you never miss an episode. Curious how tuned in your intuition really is.

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