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Modern Dating Survival Guide: Psychologist Reveals Her Experience with "Are We Dating the Same Guy?", ENM, and Dating Apps

• Mandi Pratt • Season 3 • Episode 40

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Ever wondered if the person you're dating is seeing someone else behind your back? With over 8 million women across 200+ cities, "Are We Dating the Same Guy?" has become a global movement helping women navigate the murky waters of modern dating. 


In this eye-opening conversation, Dr. Marina Dorian shares her personal experiences with the platform, revealing shocking stories of deception and the rise of "ethical non-monogamy" (ENM) in today's dating scene. 


From “hobo-sexuals” to wealthy yacht owners, discover how women are banding together to protect each other from serial cheaters and dangerous behavior patterns. Plus: which dating apps are worth your time (hint: even eHarmony isn't what it used to be), and why trusting your intuition might be the most important dating tool of all.


RESOURCES

Are We Dating the Same Guy?

  • Website: arewedatingthesameguy.com
  • Available as an app (download links on website)
  • Facebook Groups: Search "Are We Dating the Same Guy [Your City]" to find local private and public groups

Dating Apps Mentioned:

  • eHarmony
  • Facebook Dating
  • Coffee Meets Bagel
  • Hinge
  • Bumble
  • Tinder
  • Elite Dating
  • Millionaire Match

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 Hey, brave one. Welcome to the Aware and Prepared Podcast. I'm your host, Mandy Pratt, trauma-informed, resilient speaker, domestic violence victim advocate, and narcissistic abuse survivor. Here we keep it real with true crime stories and real world strategies to prevent emotional and physical harm. My guests and I share a mix of insight and survivor grit.

All to help you feel safer, trust yourself more deeply, and live with greater peace and power. Let's trade fear for freedom and step into the peace that you deserve.

All right, well welcome back to the Aware and Prepared Podcast, and welcome back to our special guests, Dr. Marina Dorian, thank you so much for being here. 

Well, it's great to be here again. 

Thank you. So last time we had you on, we were talking about narcissists and co-parenting with a narcissist. So for those who did not hear that one yet, that was excellent.

So she gave us some real actionable tools to help and also gave some mindfulness tools. At the end. So if you have not heard that, I will drop that link into the show notes.

 

Just a heads up that today's episode is not for little ears, so please take a note of that before you continue. 

So today we are here to talk about, a different topic. And this one I am so curious to know if those who are listening have heard about this, um, special group.

And it is called, are we dating the same guy, different Facebook groups in different cities. So I had heard of this, um, I know some have not. And before you shut me out, if you're not dating, hang on, because I'm not dating either. I'm married. But who of us has friends that's dating? Like all of us, right? So we wanna look out for each other.

So that's why I'm sharing this for all people to listen. So, are we dating the same guy? First of all, they have a website, they have Facebook groups and they have an app. So I'm gonna explain that really quick here and then Marina's gonna get into talking about her experience with it and all of that good stuff.

So are we dating the same guy? It's a worldwide network of over 8 million women, across 200 plus cities dedicated to protecting and empowering women in the dating world. Founded by Paola Sanchez, our groups help women share information, recognize red flags, and support each other in making safer. Dating choices.

I love it. So. What started as a single Facebook group in New York City has transformed into a global movement advocating for women's safety. So I love this and I love that they also provide this service because not everybody can pay for like a background check service, right? So they work to educate women on how to find and use free publicly available resources to protect themselves.

And I didn't realize this, but it says our platform provides. Court record searches, sex offender registries and other essential safety tools to help women verify info and make safer choices when navigating relationships. Love it. So they have an app. Um, and of course I'm gonna drop in all of these links into, um, the show notes.

So. The website is just, are we dating the same guy.com? And then from there you can see the app. And then if you go to Facebook, like I just did, so I go in and I type in, I'm searching for a group and you search for, are we dating the same guy? And then you'll see all the different cities, right? So if I go, are we dating the same guy, Denver?

I see that there's a private group and a public group. So if. You know, you gotta think what are the cons and pros, right? To private versus public. So public, I can look right now and I can see, an anonymous participant posts about this guy. He plays a single dad role while taking advantage of women's good hearts.

He says he is single, blah, blah, blah, and they show a photo of him, right? So, I mean, that's nice that you can see that without having to, you know, log on and all of that. But then they have a private group, which I personally would go with. How about you, marina? 

Hmm. Yeah, so I'm actually a member of the Facebook group in San Diego.

Perfect. Both. Both the private and public group.

yeah. You know, like you mentioned, These groups are city based, right? And, um, they're really asking is anyone else dating, seeing involved, or has dated? Mm-hmm. This person, um, you know, where we're at least the original goal was, was safety, right?

Yeah. Yeah, and I see that in this private Facebook page, it says there are three main uses of the page. One, it can be used to inquire about someone you're dating or may potentially date to see if anyone has had any experiences with them and give other women the chance to share relevant info. Two, it can be used as a place where women can warn other women about liars, cheaters, abusers, or.

Any men who exhibit any type of toxic or dangerous behavior. Number three, this is a welcoming space where women can ask for advice and relationship support, as well as post stories, memes, or anything else dating related that can help.

Bring us together, keep us safe or help us feel less alone. And then they talk about the app and they say, for the safety of others, do not screenshot or share anything you see in the group. They have very strict rules, of course. Um, and they go on to say how they're. Doing their very best to keep the space, um, safe.

So anyway, that is, are we dating the same guy in a nutshell? And Marina, you have more experience with this, so I'm excited to get into this and talk with you about that. Um, so. This was created as a response to modern dating opacity. Right. So it's not to attack men, of course. The root motivation is informed consent, safety, and truth.

Right? 

Yeah, so, you know, really the goal was, um, for women to have clarity and safety and, and really to warn about, uh, men who are, you know, out there dating women and lying, uh, having patterns of lying manipulation and emotional abuse. And also, uh, warning about if this person has a pattern of physical abuse, 

And really sharing red flags. Mm-hmm. Um, red flags, you know, last time I did an episode on narcissistic abuse. Mm-hmm. Um, so sharing red flags like gaslighting, uh, love bombing. 

Yeah. 

Or. People that are, um, you know, engaging in un unsafe sexual behavior, uh mm-hmm. Which, you know, is a form of, abuse as well.

If somebody's having, uh, unprotected sex with multiple partners and not just closing this, uh, to somebody. 

Mm-hmm. 

So really, you know, the goal was safety and clarity, uh, for women. I think these groups emerged because too many women have had the experience of discovering, oftentimes later than they would like, um, that they're not the only one in what they thought was a monogamous dating relationship, or sometimes even married people.

Mm-hmm. Uh, would be on there. 

Yeah, that's a good point. I love this idea 'cause we can watch out for each other and make sure to our best ability, you know, that that's not happening. So I love that. You know, we've gathered together to support each other and I really wish we didn't need it, but here we are.

We do. So, um. I love learning about this and I am excited to hear about your experience with it. I know now you have your own podcast, which is so exciting. Um, and you can tell us more about that before the episode ends, but I know that you did your own episode, um, and kind of mentioned about your experience with it.

So I would love. To hear more about that, like did you find anybody that was dating other people or what happened? 

Yeah, certainly. So, like I mentioned, I'm, I'm actually a, a, a member. I'm, I'm on there and, uh, you know, occasionally I'll, I'll look through it. So I've had the experience of seeing two men that I know, not that I've personally dated, but two men that I know of that were posted on there.

And had known that they had some, you know, problematic red flags. 

Hmm. 

And you really get, have the opportunity for, for women to. Like crowdsource information, 

right. 

Um, to talk about their experiences with this person. Mm-hmm. And, you know, it's not always, it's not always negative and it's not slanderous.

Mm-hmm. Uh, for example, some people will say, oh, I know this person, I went to high school with him. Mm-hmm. Um, or I know this person through a friend. Or maybe they'll say. I matched with this person on a dating app, or I dated them, and then they'll give their experience. That's cool. And, and sometimes it'll be a, a neutral experience.

So not everybody has a negative experience. 

That's cool. That helps a lot too. 

Yeah. Yeah. But nowadays, you know, when people are dating, this modern dating scene has created, um. Kind of a sea of endless choices, but also less accountability. 

Mm, that's so true. 

Yeah. So, so dating apps, they allow people to date multiple people simultaneously.

Um, and also to hide your true intentions or to hide if you even have a partner. 

Mm-hmm. So. 

Uh, cheating infidelity can be, can be done at the click of a button. Right. You know, it's, it's not those days where somebody's having an affair at work or, you know, meeting at a hotel. All they need to do is just turn their back and click on a button.

Yeah. Yeah. 

You know, I've heard of scenarios where partners are literally laying in bed next to each other on their devices and it was found out that one partner. Is on a dating app or messaging somebody else, they're literally side by side, but looking into their own devices. 

Wow. 

So, um, that's crazy. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, you asked me about some personal stories. So I personally have not posted anybody, even though I've seen people that I've known of posted, but I have had stories of and experiences where I've, uh, almost humorously found out that me and an acquaintance of mine have dated the same guy or the same guys, um, and then been able to share, you know, some red flags and just some, you know, interesting stories.

This is actually , a friend of mine, I don't really see very often, but she had told me about a year ago, oh, I'm dating somebody. I'm dating somebody from the dance scene. And I said, who is it? Uh, she said, oh, you wouldn't know 'em. And so I said, well, we'll try me. And she tells me who it is, and it, and it's an ex-boyfriend of mine.

How funny. From 10 years ago.

And we actually broke up in a very unpleasant way, even though we had a nice time dating Uhhuh. And there's a lot of nice things I could say about this person. Um, we really broke up because he didn't want me to tell him. What to do health wise. And I suggested that, that he drink more water after doing a lot of yoga.

And he literally stormed out. Like he just had a fit and stormed out and whoa. It was a very strange way. 

Yeah. 

So we, we went on, you know, to talk some more and it ends up that we've actually dated or at least been on dates with three of the same guys. 

Oh my gosh. How funny. 

So this really does occur, and, we thought it was funny.

We had a, we had a laugh about it. 

Right. 

You know, I've also been involved with, with men who later revealed that they were not monogamous, but they did not disclose it upfront. Hmm. And I think that's really where the problem lies, is that, we're living in a time where, um, people can be really open about their sexuality, they can be open about their relationship style, and there is actually a relationship style called ethical non-monogamy or ENM, um, that, especially where we live in, in Southern California is growing in popularity.

Um. I've heard more and more people identify as being ENM, ethically, non-monogamous. 

Hmm. Um, I never even heard of that. So that's news to me. 



, You know, really what that is, is it's, it's an umbrella term for, um, folks that openly, transparently practice non-monogamy in relationships. And, and I think that.

This might be an antidote or, uh, at least people being open about it. Maybe an antidote to the need for these kind of, um, investigative groups. 

Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, if people just freaking told the truth. Right, exactly. Yeah. And we're just. Transparent, then we wouldn't need the group. 

Yeah, yeah. Uh, absolutely.

And you know, I think that the difference between, uh, infidelity or cheating affairs and ethical non-monogamy is the ethical part. 

Yeah, exactly. Right. 

It's, it's the deception or the lies. 

Yeah.

So are we dating the same guy is kind of a way to catch cheaters. 

Mm-hmm. 

When one, at least one of the partners is assuming monogamy in a relationship or assuming a certain kind of a relationship, and that those agreed upon rules are not being held to.

So there's a breaking of agreed upon relationship rules. 

Right. 

And the person's not given a chance to consent to it. 

Mm. Yeah. Like you said, in your experience like that, not being told until after the fact is like, okay, I didn't sign up for that. 

Right. E exactly. I've, I've had the experience, um. Of being on several dates, uh, with somebody who I felt a very strong connection to.

And I thought it was going very well. And then all of a sudden, um, things kind of cooled off and, and I asked this man, you know, what's going on? I thought things were going very well, and I felt like we really liked each other. And he said, yes, of course I like you, but I think he said, I think we have different relationship styles and. I didn't even understand what he meant. Like what do you, what do you mean? Like, like love languages. What are you talking about? Right. And he said, I, I identify as ENM. 

Oh, 

and this was years ago. I literally had to Google it.

Yeah. 

And then I'm like, oh, okay. Well why didn't you tell me right off the bat? 

Right. 

Or why didn't you even post it? I, I met him on a dating site. Oh. Why didn't you post it on, on your profile? 

Right. I'm sure he knew why 

and some people do. Yeah. 

Yeah. 

Some people do. Mm-hmm. But, you know, I grew attached physically Yeah.

And emotionally intimately. 

Right. 

Uh, to somebody who after, you know, like, uh, a month or two of dating tells me that, uh, he's ENM. Oh 

my gosh. 

And I don't identify, I identify as Right as wanting a monogamous 

right. 

Relationship. 

Right? Yeah. 

So, so I felt. I felt deceived in a way. 

Mm-hmm. 

I mean, he told me after a while, this wasn't like years down the road, of course there's that kind of deception.

Um, where I've also had the experience of, uh, being in a dating relationship with somebody who I think he didn't really know how to identify himself. 

Hmm. 

He didn't really know like what label to put on himself. Mm-hmm. But really exhibited non-monogamous. Behavior. 

Mm-hmm. 

But also didn't tell people openly about that.

Right. Didn't say, you know, I'm non-monogamous, I'm polyamorous, or I want an open relationship. 

Right. 

These are all different types of non-monogamous relationships. Um. And again, you know, I felt deceived from that omission of information and I, and I couldn't make a consensual decision saying, okay, I, I'm, I'm okay to be part of this.

Right. I'm okay with us loving multiple people, or us seeing multiple people. You know, I was just wanting us to be loving each other. 

Right. That's what I would be expecting. Uh, so what is the difference then? I mean, how would you define. So it's like cheating. So if I was with that person, I would think that he was cheating on me.

'cause he didn't say, you know, that that's how he identifies himself. And that was, you know, was his expectation, right? 

Yes. Yes. So, so you're absolutely right that you, yourself, like a person can be non-monogamous and still, um, exhibit infidelity. Mm-hmm. Because. The, the key feature of infidelity is that there's, uh, deception, there's breaking of rules, you know, there's lying.

Right. 

And you're not following through on at least somebody's agreed upon or desired relationship rules. 

Exactly. 

Um, and you're, and you're removing somebody's ability to consent to the type of relationship, um, that's going on. 

A hundred percent. Yeah, I can't imagine.

I'm sorry that you went through that, that would be really difficult. Yeah, 

yeah. Yeah.

Gosh, that's wild. Ugh.



And so what are common red flags that women might warn about in the groups? Like what kind of stuff would you see 

mm-hmm. 

On there? And like obviously we know we would expect to see this guy cheated on me. He looks like this, blah, blah, blah, you know, but what else do you see on there?

Yeah. Um, so a, a lot of really specific things, like some people will talk about financial abuse. Um, there's this term called hobo sexuals, uh, like a hobo like men that. Um, seek out women for a place to live. 

Mm-hmm. 

Oh, gotcha. And so some people, so some people warned about that, like, this guy is just looking for a girlfriend so he could find a place to live.

So he is just using her for 

Yeah. 

Women board or 

place to 

live. 

Right, right. But oftentimes it's also financial. So Uhhuh, I've seen posts of, of women saying, this man, you know, took a lot of money from me. Um, I, and preyed on my kindness, on my empathy. 

Yep. 

Um, so there is a lot of that. Empath 

Yes. 

Versus narcissist dynamic.

Yes. 

Like we talked about before. Totally. I was just thinking along the same lines as you. 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, so usually it's, it's about, um, you know, people holding, holding secrets. Like, uh, this man really is married and has children, or, um, uh, he has another girlfriend or he is really engaged. I've even seen people talk about, uh, STIs, sexually transmitted infections and disease, like warning.

Hey, I wanna warn you, this man has, or had an STI, right? Uh, is he not open with you about this? 

Right? Uh, oh my gosh. Yeah. That's crazy. Um, do you ever get people that share like they had a good experience or like anything that's positive or? 

Well, sometimes people will, will write I actually dated this person and he was okay. Um, for example, there, there was a, a post I saw a couple of weeks ago, um, and it was about, uh, a very successful, very wealthy man.

Um, probably. I don't know, in his, in his forties or so, and he owned a yacht and he liked inviting younger women. I bet, you know, say like twenties. Sure. You know, maybe he's forties and say like 20 or so attractive younger woman on his yacht and somebody called him, um, the Epstein of San Diego. Great. So of course there was reaction to that.

Like that's a really extreme thing. Mm-hmm. You know, to, to insinuate that somebody is an actual sexual predator. 

Right. 

You know, that, that's a big thing to say. Yeah. You know, so, so there were some women saying, Hey, I know this guy. Okay, yes, he's really rich and likes to show off, but he's not. Jeffrey Epstein.

He's not a sexual predator. 

Yeah, right. Yeah, that's good. So they can like set people straight on what's really going on.



Yeah. So would you say these groups are most. Helpful or is there a bit of harmful in them, or what would you say? 

I, I would say that, you know, it, it depends on how they're used.

There, there are a lot of potential benefits, uh, like safety warnings. 

Yeah. 

And, and also it could be a validation of women's intuition. Mm-hmm. Um. Personally, I'm of the belief that if you are at a point where you have to post somebody in this group 

mm-hmm. 

Um, because of your intuition. Mm-hmm. Uh, you're probably right.

Exactly. Oh my gosh. I talk so much about intuition. Yes.

I think that there's something biologically there that, um, you know, allows us to really trust our bodies, you know, that feeling we have in, in the pit of our stomach.

Exactly. 



Yeah. But on the potential harms, um, there, there are of course men that have taken extreme offense to it. Oh yeah. And I've even heard of situations, um, across the country, maybe in Chicago or somewhere where there have been a couple of guys who have actually.

Tried to sue. I don't know if it was like specific women or the site in general. Mm-hmm. For slander. Mm-hmm. 

Defamation, 

defamation of character. Right. All of those. I, I mean, that's really difficult to do, I think, but there have been some attempts mm-hmm. Uh, to actually take legal action, A defamation of character.

Mm-hmm. Now, have you seen anything like this for guys dating that have a site like this for women? 

Oh, absolutely. There's a site called, are We Dating the Same? Girl or are we dating the same woman? Uh, absolutely. Right. Absolutely. So, so, you know, it, it goes both ways.

Uhhuh in our modern, in our modern dating landscape. Mm-hmm. Yes. There's women that date mo, multiple men or men may want to know, uh, red flags. Mm-hmm. Um, like for example, on the, are we dating the same guy site? Sometimes people are. Just about to go on a date with somebody. Maybe they matched online. Mm-hmm.

And they're just, they're unsure for some reason. And they'll say, are there any red flags? I just matched with this person. We're gonna be going on a date. Are there any red flags? Does anyone have any recommendations or warnings? Right. And sometimes it'll be clear. Cool. They'll get a clear, you know, green, green light.

Yeah. 

And other times some people will say, Hey, wait a minute, I also matched with this guy. Or I dated this guy just last week and let me tell you what happened. And it's something that is a red flag. That Right. Is a potential, uh, warning. Mm-hmm. That could be helpful to the new. Person. 

Right, right. Yeah.

That's interesting. So you are a psychologist, so what would be your recommendations as a psychologist for using this site or group on Facebook? 

Yeah, so you know, I'm also a researcher, so it's important to know that. Just one person's experience does not define the absolute truth unless it's a very, you know, they had an experience of violence.

Mm-hmm. 

You know, so, so for example, you know me saying that, oh, I had a bad experience with this one man who broke up with me after I told him he should drink more water. You know, maybe he'll have a very fine ex. Experience. Experience with somebody else

right. 

It wasn't an experience of violence.

So it's important to really look for patterns and not single complaints 

uhhuh. 

True. Um, 

good point. 

And I think that more importantly, it could really teach people to ask better questions directly. Mm-hmm. Um, because a lot of times, you know, folks. Are looking for answers that they're not getting.

Mm-hmm. 

And I think that in and of itself is a lot of information. If you're asking somebody, um, after dating a little while after you've been dating a month, two, three, um, hey, you know, what, what kind of relationship do you want? Or What's the status of our relationship? 

Mm-hmm. 

Or are you seeing anybody else?

Mm-hmm. Or you try to set some boundaries like. You know, if we're gonna have an intimate relationship, I don't want us to be seeing anybody else. 

Mm-hmm. 

So if you are having trouble with that, if you actually put that out there and you're not getting any kind of a response or any kind of communication or clarity, then that's important information for you to know 

For sure.

Definitely. Yeah. And you deserve that. You deserve to know that and have the facts, you know? Mm-hmm. Before you get your heart entangled with this person. 

Yeah. Yeah. 



. I think that it's also important for us to trust our own boundaries and intuition. Um, and, you know, to know that women do deserve safety, um, they deserve clarity, uh, clear communication, and that, you know, we're not trying to run surveillance and violate people's privacy. It's just a desire. Uh, to really know what's going on and to be able to, uh, really consent to the kind of relationship that you're having.

Mm-hmm. 

Uh, with somebody. I mean, uh, consent isn't, you know, just about the kind of sexual behavior you're having, but it's actually about the kind of relationship that you're having. 

Mm-hmm. 

You know, and Exactly, and, and here people are forced in a situation where they have not consented to a relationship with multiple partners.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Thank you for bringing that to light to us. So those who are dating know what to look out for and questions to ask. I feel like that's so important. Um, so the final takeaways, I feel like we really zeroed in on like honesty and talking about how cheating is more about like deception I feel like what you said was so good about that and it's important to know where you stand, just by asking that question, if somebody gets riled up, like you're like, I just asked a question, like I'm not implying anything, right? 

Yeah. Yeah. 



So. We deserve to live in peace and safety. I say that all the time. It's slides every time I go out to speak. And I say that here on the podcast, and like you mentioned with our intuition, like pay attention to how your body feels too. You know, is this tensing you up? Are you gritting your teeth?

Do you have tension headaches? Is your stomach in a knot? It's always okay to take a break. Right, and take a step back and decide what you really want for your life. 

Absolutely. And I. I think that ethical dating is something that needs to be touched upon even more. And ethical dating, whether it's monogamous or non-monogamous, it requires truth and consent and respect.



Mm-hmm. A hundred percent. 

Well thank you and thank you for sharing your own experiences in the dating world out there. Um, I have one last question. What dating apps are people using now and which ones are kind of known as like the best ones or like, you know, the ones that are for one night stands or where you find more people that have more red flags?

Yeah. You know, um, my personal experience is that it's hard to tell. Um, I am, I'm single right now. I am, I'm 50. I'm trying, dating once again. Um, 

you're brave, 

so I, oh gosh. So. I have to tell you, even some dating sites that you would think are so wholesome. Um, I tried eHarmony recently.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And while I have to say I met, uh, a few quality men on there. 

Mm-hmm. 

There were also some folks that, I'm just shocked why they would sign up for eHarmony. It was, it was like the same kind of nonsense you would think would be on Tinder. Um. 

Mm-hmm. 

I met several men that really messaged me inappropriately sexually, and it was clear that all they were looking for was sex 

on eHarmony.

Yes. 

Wow. Yes, because that's actually how I found my current husband. We've been married for 18 years and way back then, it was very vetted, like you had to fill out so much information and I was like. Gosh, like when does this end? But I was thankful for it, you know? Um, so yeah, I'm surprised by hearing that.

I was really surprised as well. So, I've tried eHarmony, I've also tried Facebook dating. Facebook has a dating app, uh, part of it. And that I call it's sort of like the, the outlet, uh, kind of like a Ross dress for less. Like, you might find a good, you, you might find that, you know, great.

Calvin Klein dress for, for $20, but you're gonna dig through a lot of pink polka, dotted striped, you know, things that are the wrong fit. 

Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. So would you say maybe eHarmony is usually more like the Nordstrom's rather than the Ross? 

Well, it's supposed to be because I too, I spent a really long time filling out, uh, somewhat of a personality type profile.

Yeah. 

Um, but I was shocked. And also from the men, I had heard that there's a lot of, uh. Like fake women, uh, meaning that they're not real people that live in the city there. Or maybe they're just wanting money or maybe they're from another country. Uh, so I was really surprised, you know?

Yeah. 

Oh 

my gosh. Did they really fill out an hour long profile or they, they kind of bypassed it somehow. Um, 

that's crazy. 

Yeah. I've heard from other friends. Um, I've been, I, I've used an app called Coffee Meets Bagel. 

Oh, I never heard of that. 

Yeah, it's kind of cute. I haven't used it in a while. Um, but I've heard that it's, it's kind of nice for professionals. Mm-hmm. Um, and I've had friends, I've had girlfriends that have tried Hinge 

mm-hmm. 

Or Bumble. Mm-hmm. Um, and I've had girlfriends that have tried Tinder and just not had a good experience. Yeah. But, but there's always somebody who meets somebody somewhere. Oh, yeah.

On a, on a dating app. 

That's true. Yeah. 

And, and then there's more like elite ones. There's one called Elite Dating or Millionaire Match. And so, um, I don't, I don't know. I haven't, I haven't gone that far. Right. And of course there's matchmakers. 

Yeah, you're right. That's right. Yeah. Professional matchmakers.

Yeah. Yeah. We had a matchmaker, from Los Angeles on our, um, podcast on love liaisons. Oh, cool. Um, I mean, she has a particular niche because she's a Jewish matchmaker. 

Oh, yeah, I think I saw that. Yeah. 

Yeah, yeah. But she really does help folks. She's, she's more in the LA and, you know, Uhhuh Southern California area, so specific to that area.

Mm-hmm. 

Um, but she really helps people, not, not only just find. Somebody to be a good match with and, and she doesn't One at a time. 

Yeah. Smart. Yeah. 

And um, but she's also helped people just date better and smarter in general, like a dating 

coach. 

Yeah. Even if she doesn't find them a partner. 



That's awesome. Well, thank you for your time. It's been enlightening. Thank you. Entertaining. You're welcome. Thank you so much. We appreciate you and I will be dropping, like I said, our last conversation, um, which was so good. And also your podcast, what is that called? 

Yeah. So I co-host a podcast with my friend Catherine, and it's called Love Liaisons.

We're on, uh, apple Podcasts. Mm-hmm. Uh, Spotify and Amazon. 

Mm-hmm. 

Um, you could also find us on our social media. We have a Facebook love liaisons. Mm-hmm. Uh, Instagram and TikTok. Mm-hmm. And, uh, website on, uh, love liaisons. 

Nice 

com. Okay. Uh, so yeah, check us out. We're, uh, we talk about modern love and relationships.

Uh, both me and Catherine are in San Diego. We're both single, single moms and we actually have the same birthday. But we have very different opinions on matters of the heart. 

That's cool. That's awesome that you have different opinions.

So on your podcast, you can share different views. Yeah. That's cool. All right, well I will drop all of those links in there so those of you who are listening can go check out, um, her podcast and social media and all of that. So thank you everybody for listening. And I just wanna say, if you are listening and you found this helpful, please do share it with your single friends and any friends because.

We all have friends who are dating and going through all of this, so it sounds like it's kind of a jungle. So they might need Dr. Marina's help. So go check it out, Sharon. All right. Well thank you so much, marina, for being here with us.

We really appreciate you. 

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