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The Intentional Disc Golfer
Striking the Balance: Emotion and Analysis in Disc Golf with Eric Oakley
We're bringing you an exciting and truly enlightening episode where we're joined by Eric Oakley, a well known professional disc golfer. With a knack for the game and an infectious positivity, Eric Oakley shares with us his approach to disc golf, emphasizing on the significance of a positive mindset, pre-game planning, self-love, and self-kindness. Together, we dissect the analytical aspect of the game, and how a critical but constructive approach can pave the way for improvement and personal growth.
In the second half of the episode, we candidly discuss the role of positivity in disc golf, citing Eric’s remarkable transformation of a rough hole to the day's hot round. Eric’s personal experience serves as a testament to the power of positivity and building the right mental toolset for success. We also deliberate on our favorite discs and how disc golf has shaped us as individuals, all with an aim to help you refine your skills and love for the game.
The episode culminates with a thought-provoking discussion on a player's mental game, shedding light on the invaluable lessons from Seth Munsey of Disc Golf Strong and other professional disc golfers. Maintaining relationships between players, sponsors, and fans, and future plans for our disc golf games also make it to our conversation. Listen in to grasp the profound impact of disc golf on our lives and get inspired to cultivate a positive mindset, not just for winning at disc golf, but also for winning at life.
Step into our world of disc golf and positivity, and you'll find that it's not just about throwing discs; it's a journey towards self-improvement, fostering positivity, and a celebration of the game we all love. So, gear up for a ride full of fascinating insights and lessons with Eric and us, your passionate and enthusiastic hosts!
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Speaker 2:So I got some good news today. You got some good news. Yeah, i went to work and my principal, rex Green, over at Chief Kits of Academy was like Hey, i was here late. We had like four or five groups out on the Disc Golf course tonight. It's to the point where I've been getting phone calls at the school. I've been our secretary had to put up a sign that's like Disc Golf course closed until four.
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Speaker 2:It's not Bud Pell yet.
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Speaker 3:That's correct. So, and as long as we're giving shoutouts, hey, we'd like to give you a quick shout out to. Donnie Harden in Louisville, kentucky sent us some fan mail our very first fan mail, and thank you for that, donnie. We really appreciate that and the kind words. keep them coming and will be as active with our people as we can Where some stickers are heading your way, but so don't, don't forget. All right. so in this episode we're talking about the power of mindset and positivity, and we have a very special guest joining us from Emporia, kansas. Learn more right after a word from our sponsor.
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Speaker 2:And again thank you to Colin for everything that you have done sponsoring Sirens of the Springs, part of the Evergreen Women's Series events, and that event was back in April. I'm super excited to finally have another one. We took a break for the Silver Series and everything in May. So no Evergreen Women's Series in May, but we are hitting off our long summer of disc golf tournaments. Saturday you can find us at Throw Pink at Fairgrounds put on by Allegra Archer to raise money for breast cancer research and awareness.
Speaker 3:That's.
Speaker 2:Saturday, the 17th correct Yep The day before Father's Day. And then Father's Day, we will be at North Bend giving our first try of the NADGT challenge.
Speaker 3:I don't know. It's like a qualifier round for something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we like North Bend, so why not? And then finally back to Evergreen Women's Series Diskin in the Sun at North Bend. You can tell we like North Bend. I believe Elena Evaneski is putting on that one. And when is that one? The 25th of June. Then we take a break, thankfully for a little bit. And then you and James are going to the Trilogy Challenge. They're doing a pop-up at the infamous Budpell The infamous or world famous infamous Yeah. So me and the intro.
Speaker 3:Kid will be at the Budpell for a pop-up Trilogy Challenge. Just a little Father's Sun, come see us Get some discs, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then Ladies of the Lake, which is actually the tournament that made me want to do tournaments, because the logo is so cool And it's put on by Moon Pebble Designs, which is Danielle Keen and Chuck Minstice Golf. It's a two-day event, which most of the Women's Series has stopped doing two-day events, so it's really exciting that we get to do two days and three rounds instead of just two rounds in one day.
Speaker 3:And I have to say I don't even get to play in that one. It's a women's only event. But I went there last year as a caddy and I had such a wonderful time with my wife and made new friends And it was a fantastic event and so much fun. Chuck and Danielle put on a heck of a good time there. So if you're a husband or a boyfriend, or a caddy for that matter, try to get to the Ladies of the Lake. That is a really fun tournament, Or a girlfriend or a wife.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whoever Plus, you won the marksman there.
Speaker 3:People are. I still get dirty looks for that.
Speaker 2:I'm still disappointed I didn't get a p-towel. I thought that was hilarious that there were p-towels in the raffle.
Speaker 2:I also want to put a shout out out there. If you're local to Paul's Bow, north Kitsap, paul's Bow Parks and Rec are doing three rounds of an introduction to disc golf training put on by 360 disc golf team. The first one is going to be June 20th from 6.30 to 8 pm. It's $10 per family and it's going to be at Rob Park. So if you have a large family, like us, it's $10. If you have a small family, it's $10. So go check out Paul's Bow Parks and Rec. First one June 20th, second one Wednesday July 19th And the last one Thursday August 24th. So get out there, take your family and learn how to disc golf.
Speaker 3:For sure. 360 disc golf is just the greatest. They do so much to support the local disc golf community and, as always, growing the sport. Bc Construction Services is dedicated to growing the sport of disc golf, from sponsoring tournaments and events to volunteering with the Paul McBeth Foundation. When you hire BC Construction Services for your project, you are supporting growing the sport that we love. Get a free quote now by contacting them at bcconstructionnwcom Or at 360-271-3441. That is 271-3441. Serving the greater Kitsap and Eastern Jefferson County area. All right, so for this episode of the intentional disc golfer, we are talking about the power of mindset and positivity and we have a very special long way to guess for you. Why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself?
Speaker 1:What's good everyone. My name is Eric Oakley. I am a professional disc golfer sponsored by Infinite Discs, Thought Space Athletics, Clash Discs, Whale Sacks, Birdie Field Coffee, European Birdies, Disc Golf Strong. I Miss Anybody. Mad Discs Dies. Yeah, Very, very fortunate. Been on the road playing disc golf for like seven or eight years now. Been playing disc golf for about 20 years, So feeling very fortunate to have the opportunities to get to do what I do.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. That's awesome. Well, we're definitely glad to have you on the show. So, if I may indulge a little bit, so I met you. I was keeping score on your card with Jonah and Vino and Gannon Burr and of course you on that second day at the Cascade Challenge in our own backyard there. And one thing that really caught me and I was very impressed by you is I think it was hole four or hole five You had a killer drive and then it hit a tree and took a really bad kick and went out of bounds and you kind of were visibly kind of a little bit. You know how darn it you know type of thing. And you know you took a long time kind of setting up your line and you wanted to make sure that it was a really great shot. And you went and threw your shot and you like, hit it perfectly, the line was good and everything, and then the infamous invisible tree that Shelton is known for kicked you out of bounds again.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you remember what I'm talking about, probably.
Speaker 1:I do, and I want to keep hearing your side of it.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, from my perspective it's like I've played that course so many times. It's just you'll. I'm shaking my head because it's just kind of like oh, that figures. You know I can't see that in there.
Speaker 1:done that Right.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, oh yeah. Well, you know, jenny and I have a theory that trees tend to move around. When you're not looking like, they'll walk and move right into your line. So anyway, so, moving on, you, you know, took like a double or a triple on that whole, and then big double, and so then we went on to the next T box and I was just kind of being quiet, minding my own business, and you were talking to your caddy and you were I can't remember exactly what you said, but you said something along the lines, like you know, it just is what it is. I got to shake it off. I got to. You know, i can't do anything about it now, let's go.
Speaker 3:And, and that carried on throughout the day. You were thanking the fans, giving people high fives, you were trying to lift people up and be positive with everything, and it's like wow. you know, this is really kind of a breath of fresh air And I'm guilty of getting down on myself, you know, in rounds and things myself. So it was really refreshing. And I think the big payoff for this story is you went to shoot the hot round of the day and ended up on the lead card.
Speaker 3:Yeah, And so it was like oh heck, yeah, Eric, like go get them.
Speaker 1:But double you know and that's.
Speaker 1:yeah, there's. there's a lot of things that have come to kind of play into that mindset, because I haven't always been this person And I think that that is something that I've had to kind of come to terms with and I've had to work on and recognize more who I was as a person and try to let that come out more when I'm playing disc golf, because if I'm out there and I'm frustrated and I'm angry and many other things, my I'm not going to look back at disc golf as this fond, awesome thing, I'm going to be stressed about it and it's going to weigh on
Speaker 1:me and it's going to impact my day to day life And I don't want that to happen. So what I could take from that situation, just to talk about it in particular, is that tee shot felt good. It's a hard hole and you got to get the disc to drip to the right and might just stay a little too straight. And the day before it turned enough and I felt like I hit it pretty clean and it took a bad kick. I cannot control how it kicks. What I can control is me stepping up on the tee pad and committing to the shot that I threw. That's all I can control.
Speaker 1:And in the past, the thing that I couldn't control frustrated me and weighed on me and really brought me down to the point where, if anything bad were to happen, if I bogeyed one hole, one hole, my body temperature and my demeanor would shift and not be great. I would still be hyping up my card maids and still be thanking people around me, but I visibly was now stressed about the game disc golf, and that's not. That doesn't bode well. So go to the next shot. Tough lie, try to throw more over the inbound rather than try to play a shot that I could have thrown over the out of bounds to try and play safe. I see the shot that I want to throw and I felt like I hit it really good, that's what I can control. I was confident, i chose the line, i chose the disc and I felt like I executed it. And that was about another bad break that was out of my control. So it's not easy to just let those go, because we all want to be good But at the same time, if I focus on the uncontrollable, this is a big thing.
Speaker 1:I got from disc golf strong and Seth Muncie is.
Speaker 1:I focus on the uncontrollables, i'm never going to win, but if I focus on what I can control, then I have, i'm giving myself a very good opportunity to be successful, and that that's just kind of is what it is And that's legitimately what I can do.
Speaker 1:And yeah, the other, the other aspect of it is you do have a choice of how you react to things like to things like that too. And maybe in that moment I was a little bit heated and frustrated, especially after the second kick, because that felt really bad and felt punnett, overly punishing. But you know, as you saw and I'm glad you did see this is that I was able to kind of have my moment real quick, have my moment and then let it go, and then I was no longer thinking about the double bogey at all for the remainder of that round, and that's why I was able to go on and get a lot of birdies and be successful, and I think that that's kind of what it is, and I've started to realize that and I'm just I used to be talking about that, but now I'm actually being about that mindset- Can I ask you a question about?
Speaker 2:you said that you gave yourself a moment to have that feeling. Are you one of those that you're like, okay, i'm going to give myself like five seconds, or is it just until it passes? Like what is that for you to have that moment?
Speaker 1:It changes. It changes on the day depending on the amount of frustration you're going through. So if I the first, first, the first bad kick, whatever, i need quarter of a second and I can move past it. You know a later, you know, if it seems to be like, oh cool, i just had like a spit out or something like that, and it's the second thing, i might need a second or two just to be like God, dang it, that sucks. And then I leave it behind And then, as it starts to go on, i don't think I ever exceed more than like five seconds of that being like, Wow, that really sucked. I can't believe that that just happened. But now I have, i have, i have tools in my kit that allow me to try and reset, whether that's focusing on my breathing. I have a little reset mechanism that I like to call, where, if I do a soft clap after something bad happens, i know that I've, i've, don't.
Speaker 1:I try and let my brain think about what happened And it's like what do I want to give this? And then, okay, cool, that sucked, it was frustrating, it felt out of my control. All right, sweet, it's out of my control And I'll clap, and now I don't think about it anymore. All right, try to my best to not think about it. So, having these things in place to focus on it, to focus on what happened, be analytical in the moment, not critical of myself by calling myself stupid or anything like that. I'm analytical Like did I commit to the line? Did I? did I throw the right shot? Maybe, maybe not, but was I confident? Yes, cool, all right, move on. So, like all these processes that happen really fast, but you know there are times where you kind of need to like get it out for a second, as long as it's courteous to your cardmates and also courteous to other competitors on the course.
Speaker 1:I think that you know a five second window is is pretty fair and should be fair for most players to, yeah, just to be able to talk about those things, and whether it's under their own breaths or to their caddy. But I tend and try not to be a person that carries that down the fairway, where I'm only talking about it, because I know if if other players are doing that while I'm playing with them, i almost want to be like yo, we get it. That sucks, move on, because if you move on you'll be better. I know you will be And so, yeah, definitely all within reason.
Speaker 3:Well, and all of you guys out there are just tremendous competitors, i mean every. you don't get to a high level with anything unless you have that like deep competitive spirit where you just want to dominate everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I wanted to say we we did a episode earlier on the data of disc golf and I read the data collection book on disc golf And one thing I like is how you said that you kind of take the emotion out of it And you're analytical about the throw instead of you know going down that negative self talk when you're doing those throws. So I really like the way you do that.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Thank you, it's been a process, but I think my play this year and last year are showing the benefits of that And in my overall demeanor and happiness when I do play disc golf has dramatically improved. A big part of that is because of that. So, yeah, it's a, it's also.
Speaker 1:It also helps in your game plan And, just to expand on it just a little bit more, is that that if, if I start to recognize that I'm not focused while I'm throwing and that's the thing that I'm missing on being analytical will help me track that in and help me focus on the shot at hand a little bit more Like I've done that a lot with like routine approaches where like, oh, this is easy And I and I fluff it and it doesn't come out clean And like, well, you weren't focused And instead of being like, oh, my God, i can't believe, screwed up that really easy shot, it's just like yo focus up.
Speaker 1:These matter just as much as that shot that got you to this point And it's going to matter just as much as any big shot you have to throw, because that's how throws work. In disc golf, the 15 foot putt you make is just as important as the 450 foot drive you throw. So you have to give them both the same amount of focus and time for it. So that's something that I had to to recognize in that concept of I could catch things that if I made the same mistake twice, it was easy to be like, oh, that's something I need to work on, maybe work on in the moment, but also maybe work on in my practice rounds or in my warmup on the next day to help keep that from happening. So that's the other part about the analytical side is that I can start to find more of the things that, more of the common mistakes mistakes that I'm making and adjust those on the fly. It's being more professional about it making, like you know, game time adjustments.
Speaker 3:So would you say, let's talk a little bit about that pregame planning. When you're creating your course plan and planning out your round, do you actually like plan for, hey, what happens if I get a bad kick? What happens if I, you know, start to get frustrated and start to have kind of that emotional weakness?
Speaker 1:I guess, if you your pliability, i guess you'd say Yeah, Not as much of you know preparing for the bad, it's more just understanding about where I want to be on the course, where I want to miss where I want to, where where my good errors can be.
Speaker 1:So I'm throwing higher percentage shots to kind of eliminate those stressful moments from happening. I think is important And yeah, i would, that's what I think I would really lock it down to is that I'll play some obstructed and difficult lies in my practice. But I'm you know, i think a lot of it comes down to if I have scrambled enough in the game that I know where, i know how to get out of those situations, and if I end up in a really bad situation where I don't know what to do, i mean I kind of deserve it at that point And, being analytical, it's an opportunity now. It's now. It now becomes an opportunity for me to learn. So I will switch it on its head of trying to be less frustrated as to.
Speaker 1:Well, this sucks that I ended up here more to like all right, how do I get out of this? What can I try and see what it does And if it, and try a shot that maybe I'm not very good at. I look at a shot that I had at Texas States I don't know the open in Austin this year. I hit in a spot where I was like I don't really know what to throw here, but I'm like I'll take this really overstable. This is RPM Kotari that I have And I'm going to throw it on a forehand roller. I don't throw as hard as I can. It shouldn't flip over, so if it holds cut I might get a putt.
Speaker 1:I ended up getting a birdie because I threw this crazy forehand roller And now I know that like Hey, if I really need to, i have this disc that can maybe hold a cut on a forehand roller and can potentially save me some strokes. But it's like that's like one of those obscure tools that you need to buy from Home Depot or Lowe's or get it delivered a lot That's your toolbox And you never use it again. But I know it's there. So, hey, i have that And that's that's again trying to change that. Each moment, even in the really, really bad moments, it's an opportunity to learn And that's where that being analytical over instead of critical really shows its face, and I think it's such a positive thing that I hope more up and coming players can take on, because it's really helping me and I'm only kind of just now experiencing what it could be, so I'm yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah. So one thing that I got to notice because I was scoring two and it happened a lot more on the men's cards is that you're talking about the learning and seeing those shots. I kept seeing the guys after someone would make a throw And they're like trying to figure out okay, so how did they do that, How would I do that? And so they're always trying to learn from those shots, And that's not necessarily seen in the coverage if you're, you know, not walking with the players, So I'm glad that you're talking about how we're using it to learn all the time.
Speaker 1:Totally, I mean. one thing I learned from when people were telling me to go get out there on the road and become a professional discolour was learn watch, understand what everyone else is doing.
Speaker 1:You can learn so much from other people, and it's also good to learn from other people's experiences, because if they mess up a shot and you make the same mistake, it's like you literally just watch them do the same thing. So don't do that. So try to be a sponge in that way so you can learn in the moment. but you can also learn a lot down the line of. you know, watching Paul Macbeth throw his shots and how he handles things is a great place to learn And you know his methodology can be something you can at least take points from and apply to yourself.
Speaker 3:Yeah, watch, watching the professionals who are even on YouTube and coverage, you know, has helped develop my game tremendously. It sounds like you were a lot like me, like I played ball golf for, you know, 20 plus years And there was a very rough time where, like I just started evaluating like why do I play this stupid game? Like I've really lost my passion for it. I'm just going through the motions And I really had to rediscover why I loved and appreciated the game. Did you go through something similar?
Speaker 1:Not necessarily. I think I had a moment, my last year with Dynamic Disks, where I felt overly taxed and I kind of lost sight of who I was And it showed in my emotion. It showed in a lot of ways but I still loved the game But I just I. So much of it was that I lost sight of who I wanted to be and who I was. And I being honest, there are probably a lot of people that have a sour taste in their mouth And that's even close friends of mine have sour taste in my mouth from that time period because I was not in a good place. I complained a lot And a lot of things weren't very good, but you could still see I had the positivity in me. When I talk to, when I hype up other players, i think the fans and spotters I do all that, that kind of stuff. I never lost that.
Speaker 1:But I did lose a sense of myself as a competitor. But the love for the game and the need to compete never went anywhere. But I had to wrestle with the fact of who I was was being affected And part of it is, part of is on the company And I don't blame dynamic all for this, because a lot of it was stuff that I put on myself And but in at the same vein it just I think there were a lot of things that came came between us where we just didn't communicate very well And we ended up on different, we were on different pages in different books And that's why it didn't necessarily make sense for us And the reason we parted ways And it. I think it was best that way, because it was also done before more loveless loss And I still have a great relationship with most people at dynamic discs And I'm incredibly thankful for those opportunities. So that's that's the closest I've had to feeling that way, but I've never lost like the desire for the game, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and kind of like what I'm, what I'm getting is like maybe your reasons and your why changed? I'm trying to relate to you with it, because that's kind of what happened to me is you know my why do I play this game changed And it wasn't to be good is because I love the game.
Speaker 2:Well, i think for you it'd be closer to how you're a musician to, and then, when you became a professional musician, it wasn't so much about the music and the love of the music anymore, because that's what it sounds like, is? it sounds like it kind of became a job to you a little bit there, eric?
Speaker 1:So yeah yeah yeah, I lost sight of that for sure, and so much of that was I. you know, i'm trying, obviously trying to win every tournament, and that's that is the goal of being a professional athlete is trying to do my best. But there's a. there's also a, a trying to recognize that the game is not always going to work like that that you can't win every weekend.
Speaker 1:you're never sure when your best weekend, when you're going to have your best weekend, you just need to be ready for it to happen. So I don't know when my win potential or my win weekend might happen, but I need to go into every weekend being ready for it to be my weekend. And then in some weekends it's like my weekend is going to be 25th place. So I better go, do my best to get that 25th place, because if I try and push for the win, i will drop to 40th place, but if I go out and play good smart golf, i will lock down 25th place, get some pro tour points, get some cash and move on. So in that and I in those moments, i have to learn about what is keeping me in 25th and not pushing me up into, you know, the top 10s and potentially pushing for a win.
Speaker 1:And that's what I'm focusing on in those tournaments. I'm not, you know, going into round two trying to win the tournament again. I'm just like no focus on playing the best round. I can't see where we end up and then make a decision from there. So I think that's another aspect of you don't get to choose when you win, because sometimes you can play the best golf of your life and somebody outplays you and hats off to them for doing so You know they played their best weekend.
Speaker 1:That happened to be a little better than yours, And that's just how golf is. You went out and crushed the course, but they just happened to crush it a little more.
Speaker 3:Yeah, isn't there a proverb out there that says there's no shame in losing to a better opponent or a worthy opponent?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, And I want people to win And like I want people to be playing good golf to win, Like you don't ever want it to be like wow, people played really bad and this person just ended up winning. And that doesn't really happen on the coach or anymore. I don't think I ever really did Everybody. It's all good golf And sometimes it's different people and like seeing the new faces too.
Speaker 3:You touched on something earlier that I kind of want to pick on myself again is when players are and I'm guilty of this, this is why I bring it up players are being negative on the box. You know I'm so disingenuous because when I play with Jenny, you know, i try to pick her up, i try to be, you know, positive and oh, you know what? that's not so bad. Hey, you got to look from there. Oh that, you know, there's not so many prickers on that Blackberry Bush. And then, yeah, and then I'll throw a bad shot and I'll be like, oh man, i'm just like the worst, like I'm just going to quit, it's time to go home.
Speaker 2:Or the comment of here's my follow part hole.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, here's my follow part hole, yep.
Speaker 1:You're manifesting it, man? Yeah, you're doing that.
Speaker 3:I'm speaking it into reality and and I had an experience recently when, where that was happening And I was kind of a bystander and it really kind of clicked home for me like how that affects the card and the other players on it And would you be able to speak to that And how do you deal with that?
Speaker 1:I, yeah, I. This is great because I've I've kind of tried to analyze this a little bit more And I've had good conversations with a lot of pros and how, how we talk to ourselves, and there's a standpoint of, like, if somebody were to say the words that I, that I have said to myself, tatina, like if they were to say some of those things to Tina, calling her names and stupid and all this stuff, i would be pretty pissed. And then also, if somebody were in it even goes to somebody were to say that to my friend, i would be really upset about how they're the words they're choosing against that person, against that person. So why would I say those things to myself when I don't want other people saying that about other people? So being kind to yourself is the best thing you can do And focusing on, you know, on a lot of bad throws, you still did some things right. So that's the the analytical versus critical part of focus on what you did right And and analyze what you did wrong So you can say, yeah, that was the wrong disc, or I should have laid that putt up.
Speaker 1:Like I can look at a shot at Portland I land, i had a putt, i had a 36 footer at a bunker and the basket looked big And I ran it and hit off the top and went right into the bunker And I had a 25 foot comeback putt that I hit off the band And I took a five and it sucked But I I what. I went to my catty Bob and said I can't be mad, I committed to both of those putts. They're both not in And I'm taking a big number and it sucks But it's like. But I committed. I was in that moment And I could easily look back at hindsight and be like lay that up all day And you know I didn't So but I didn't talk poorly about myself. I could have said it's like, hey, maybe I should have laid that up after I ran into the bunker. But I was like it's okay, let's go make this putt. And I just hadn't, i already had moved on.
Speaker 1:And it's those choice of words and those choice of things and understanding that one, i need to forgive myself for making a mistake. It happens. I need to also, you know, talk positively to myself so I can be ready for that very next shot and try and capitalize on the opportunity that I now have to save a bogey and save strokes, because that's the only way I'm going to get better. And you know, you can look back and you'll most likely laugh about those moments in a long time. It was like, yeah, i probably should have laid that out.
Speaker 1:That was really dumb, like I could have. I could have laid that up and made the cut and a bunch of different things would have changed. But it's like, yeah, i could also made other putts and not thrown an OB on other shots and made the cut that way. So, yeah, there's, there's a lot of being kind to yourself is the way I would put it, as the best way to get through this is you don't want other people saying those words to your friends or family, so why would you say them to yourself?
Speaker 3:Well, i think that's just some great wisdom right there. I never thought of it like that. You know, that's right up the alley, like I tell Jenny, hey, you made a great shot there. Hey, it's not so bad, look at that. And yet I'm trashing myself And I'm such a hypocrite because something that we tell the kids all the time is you can't love anybody else until you learn how to love yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, and I want to add in, because he's he's saying that he tells me all these great things. Well, part of it, though, is that he doesn't tell me those great things until I'm having a bad frown. So then I know like, oh man, it's getting bad enough that he's trying to pep talk me a little bit too. What's his fare?
Speaker 1:I mean that's just, you guys are, I mean he's, i mean you guys look out for each other. That's the. I think that's the best part about a relationship is that you recognize that they need a little bit of help. So you're you're going to be the first person there And that's, it's a good quality. I know that it's it sometimes can mess with the golf game, but it's still just a. It's a beautiful thing to see. So I do want to hype that up just a little bit for you guys.
Speaker 3:And you also. You also said in there thank you very much. So much wisdom in saying that there's always something positive, that you can draw some kind of positive outcome from any type of situation, whether it's I committed to my putt, i committed to my line and I just didn't, didn't hit it that time, or you know something along those lines.
Speaker 1:In those moments like we are our biggest, like critics, but we are also our. We can be our best coaches, we can be our best mentors, we can be a lot of things. So you've, in most cases, most players have executed the difficult shots that lie ahead. We have, i've done it, you've done it, we've all done it, we've all made big putts. We've all done these things. You know we have to be smart and make proper decisions, but if I walk up to any shot and I don't feel confident, i'm I'm I'm lowering my odds of being successful. If I walk in being confident, my odds are pretty high And there's a level of being realistic and not being arrogant or egotistical in those moments. But for the most part, i step up the shots and feel very confident And even after bad things as you saw, taking a double bogey, i was able to go and turn it around And that's not an easy thing to do. So it takes time, it takes work, takes energy, takes a lot of things. So yeah, i would. I would just try and be a great coach to yourself. Hype yourself up, give yourself the best opportunity to be successful by positive talk and believing in the moment that this next shot is going to be good even if you've thrown poorly.
Speaker 1:To give you perspective, my final round at Portland was round three, unfortunately. But I started that round double bogey on one, two OBs. Two T shot OB, approach OB didn't make the circle two putt. I followed by throwing my sidearm two straight OB on the next sole. I'm three over through two holes. I immediately step up to the next sole, which is a tunnel shot, and park it type the drive. And there was no, there was nothing leading up to that moment that says you should have confidence right now. Man, In most cases, like you've just thrown the three straight shots OB and here you are about to throw a really tight tunnel shot, and you did it. And that was because there was nothing else I could do in that moment other than just be confident and focus and try and execute. And I went on to shoot five down and I ended up missing the cut by a stroke and I ended up winning my card.
Speaker 1:But I went out and gave myself an opportunity because I never let that stuff creep in to into my mindset And I never let that stuff creep into into anything else. It just was Hey, that sucked, all right, let's move on Like that's all I can do. If I want to play tomorrow, i have to. I have to try and play good, And that's kind of what I did. And I still made mistakes And in those rounds to even get the five down, i could have gotten to six, seven or eight down and made the cut and been in a different spot.
Speaker 1:But the fact that I got the five down after being three over through two holes, that is a victory And that is something I will carry forward, because I'm not sure if that type of round is going to impact. Maybe that's how I start my final round when I'm in the lead at a pro tour And then I get myself back in it because of that perseverance, of what I've learned from that round. So every opportunity is a chance to get better And that's you're never sure when those lessons are going to be valuable. So might as well log it and try and make the most of it and learn as much as you can when it's happening, because you're you're never you're never sure what you're going to face in the future And you know, getting a nice skill set and toolboxes that like to use, ready for every event, is the best you can do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, And I like um, one of the things that I've been noticing and, and especially with um, working with the Paul McBeth Foundation to bring disc golf to the indigenous communities, One of the things we've been talking about is the medicine of disc golf and the medicine of being out in nature, And I really feel like you're hitting on a topic that, like I've noticed a lot of the women players specifically that they're like man, I've got this awful anxiety, I've got this depression, and playing disc golf really gives you those instant opportunities to practice that positive self-talk And I really feel like you're hitting something there that you know kind of transcends and why we love disc golf so much is because we have those opportunities and they're you know, they're instant.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. It the positive talk is is comes down to why we all fell in love with the game in general is remembering back to the first time I threw a disc straight, that hyzer flipped them and super straight. That's the positivity that I I still hold on to. Like I'm getting kind of chills thinking about that moment because I remember it so vividly And it's what has said all this going And it's like so why wouldn't I look at it from that, you know, being a 14, 15 year old, throwing a DX leopard and it hyzer flips and goes straight and me being so excited about that fact? So why wouldn't I be excited about the things that I get to do now when I am throwing emperors and dynasties and big, huge flexing shots to 500 feet and and throwing an Eagles with the spice and stuff like that?
Speaker 3:Why wouldn't.
Speaker 1:I keep that same excitement, because that's super positive. But how I stay in that positive headspace and stay there is is appreciating the flight and appreciating the opportunities that that are in front of me. So that's it's. it's a again, i guess it all comes back to you. It's that perspective shift that this is an amazing opportunity. What I have in front of me is an amazing place to be. I want to take advantage of this opportunity. So I think that that positive talk is just a product of it's a product of that enjoyment, it's a product of of the game being so awesome. So why? why bring negativity into it? I guess is, i guess is the? it would be my counter argument. It's just like why There's no, there's no need. You can, but you don't need to. So I'm going to choose not to, i'm going to do my best to not to. actually. let's say that For sure, for sure.
Speaker 3:I need to sidetrack for a moment on you. It brings a single heartfelt tear to my eye that you throw a leopard and that was you. You have that most special moment with the leopard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, He's a him and the kids are. He's got like six leopards in his bag. No joke, Nice.
Speaker 1:I just this is the damp leopard, you know 340 foot turnover. It was amazing all there. I was like it's still. I mean, leopards are leopards are great.
Speaker 3:So I would love to get my leopard to go 300.
Speaker 1:You're talking about 350, 400.
Speaker 3:Holy cow.
Speaker 2:Someday, someday. We need to get out of the woods so that we can, yeah, someday Oh man, you guys, yeah, you guys have you're throwing out at Shelton.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's throwing your, throwing your leopard. Only 300 feet is probably really good out there, because that's all you have Part of it. In good fairways, 300 feet is money.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, the the course that's behind our house right here is uh, i don't think there's a hole that's more than 300 feet. They're all like 250 to 230 somewhere.
Speaker 2:They're super technical.
Speaker 3:Super tight, though, and, uh, if you go on PDGA or whenever they have a tournament or something out there like, the ratings are always super high because the course is rated so difficult.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thanks.
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Speaker 3:Okay, So one thing I did want to ask you about. A little earlier on in the show you talked about some organization that you were affiliated with took some classes from. That really kind of helped you change your mindset and get pointed in the right direction. What was that all about, And can you talk about that for a minute?
Speaker 1:Disc Golf Strong. Yeah, that one, Seth Muncie of Disc Golf Strong. He travels with the pro tour to help us and gives us opportunities to train and to be about disc golf a little bit more, but also gives us a lot of opportunities to improve our mental games and a lot of things.
Speaker 1:He's given me books to listen to, things to read and so many things. he's helped with my physical, my mental so many things. It's hard to pinpoint just one amazing thing, but we've had so many conversations. He was an EMT and was a part of the Coast Guard, so he has lived many lives and he's been able to explain a lot of the things and put it into a perspective for us to pick up on and apply to what we have going on in disc golf. So I feel like I am just ready to absorb everything Seth has to say.
Speaker 1:So much of it has been focusing on ways that I can frame what he's saying to help me apply it to my own day to day life. So there are some of the things that we've talked about that I wasn't able to really apply. but I think that's alluding back to is looking at Paul McBeth and seeing what he does and then trying to take that and apply it into my own game. But I'm not going to do exactly what Paul does. I have to find a way to now shape it and or change the phrasing of the things that Seth gave me, or what I learned from Paul, and now phrase it into my own game, so I think that's a big part of that discussion, of that's what I'm learning In general. disc golf strong is one of the best things you can do because it teaches you how to properly warm up and properly cool down and prepare your body to play disc golf, because people should not just get out of the car and throw. That's generally what most people do and that's really bad for you.
Speaker 1:So that aspect is like yeah, okay, well, you can change that And that's. That's part of what it's all about, and I think that that's been pretty great to learn. And he's just again given me so many tools even if they are the random niche tools from that I got at Home Depot, it's still better than nothing And I have at least something to be prepared to to try and seize the day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you were talking about that. You know you're taking everything that you're learning and applying it to yourself, and that's that is a concept that we are strongly focusing on here at the intentional disc golfer is you're your own experiment, it's your game. The way that I throw, the way that you throw, the way that Brandon throws, it's all different, so we can learn from each other, but we'll never have the same game. So it's it's your game, it's your experiment and you get to see the results of your own game based on what you learn.
Speaker 3:And one expression that we always say is that you know disc golf or golf sports in general. They're kind of like this perfect emotional mirror whatever you take to the course, that day is going to come out on the course and subsequently come home with you, but just more amplified and unnerving.
Speaker 1:So it's, yeah, it's, it's. You can get a lot of positive out of this golf if you go for it, if you go seeking it. But there is a lot of negative things you can do And it's just with every walk or everything you do. In life there are can be really amazing things, that can be really bad things, like somebody cuts you off in traffic. You can let that piss you off, you can let that bleed into your day.
Speaker 1:But no matter what happens in in so many parts of your day, it is never too late to have a good day. And it's and this is something I got from, i think that was Doug Birkis said to page page Birkis, page two said to her is it's never too late to have a good round? And that I, i love it so much because it fits in so many ways for just all the things you're trying to do with your own life. It's like, is it ever too late to have a have a good day? And all those things like, oh, i woke up, i stubbed my toe, the door was a little jammed and it was frustrating to open, and then I, oh, i spelt a little bit of my coffee on on my pants and like oh, it's like all these things don't have to impact how good of a day I do actually have. They really don't, and that could be all recipes for a bad day, but they don't have to be.
Speaker 1:It's my choice to let those things impact and and cause me to have a good or a bad day. It's my choice. So I have just changed my thought processing to be nah, i'm good, i want I'm going to have a good day, that's what I want to do. So that's what, that's what's going to happen. And I've been trying to apply that to my disc golf rounds as well as like nope, i'm going to try and do my best and learn the most from this. So I think that all that, all kind of, applies here.
Speaker 3:So I guess you would say that you're like deliberately practicing the I'm going to have a good day, and as it goes on it gets easier and easier and becomes a force of action rather than a force of accident 100% love that.
Speaker 2:And I want to say I really appreciate everything that you're saying, because I have five thought space discs over my desk and I bought them because, well, i tried throwing them. They're too heavy, i can't throw them. Yet, however, they're over my desk and they're like Zen and relax and the Buddha And it's, like you know, keeping that positive mindset And that's why I really appreciate those discs and they're right above my desk where I'm staring at the computer all day and to remember to have that positive mindset.
Speaker 3:Like yeah, for sure, oh, go ahead.
Speaker 1:No, i was saying I love that, i do, but that's like finding little tools to help keep you in those moments and recognize it. I have a Gumby fingering in the top of my bag, partially because of my buddies making funny jokes in the past that are a little more R rated. But you Gumby is like what we used to say and it's really funny. But then also came into Gumby's flexible and he keeps positive attitude and that's who he is. I made the jokes with a homie of mine and that is kind of stuck and he carries a pokey around. I have a Gumby and that's that positive reminder Be flexible, be kind and be happy. I have a, i have a, i have a, i have a, i have a, i have a, i have a, i have a.
Speaker 2:I have a. I have a, i have a I have a stuffed Care Bear doll that I bought a matching one for my daughter and So I carry that around and that's my little mascot and I pat it on the head when I need a little extra. You know love and attention, so I understand the having the gumby.
Speaker 1:Love that. It's just, it's little things and you're you're never sure what. You're never sure what things you're gonna need To kind of keep you in a positive headspace. You know it's Same as weird it's not easy and we have to keep battling and keep fighting through Certain moments and everything so yeah, excellent excellent.
Speaker 3:Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Keep finding the positivity is all I can ask people Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure. All right. So we just have Just a couple more brief questions and we're gonna get started wrapping up here, enjoying this whole. This is fantastic and you know what. You're a friend of the show. Feel free to come on anytime you want. If you got something you want to rattle or anything, just you got my number, text me. Or Instagram and say hey, you know when you guys podcast and next.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3:I did want to. I did want to ask you this. Before I do the wrap-up questions, though, is One thing that has happened to me is, you know, i will go out to a tournament, and last year was our first year playing Competitive tournaments, so that was a big goal and a leap that we took.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is our third year playing disc golf.
Speaker 3:Yeah this is only third.
Speaker 2:Well, playing seriously, No, playing in general. playing in general, yeah, we started in 2020. It's 2023.
Speaker 3:We're COVID golfers.
Speaker 2:We're COVID parents. We needed something for our kids to do. Yeah, love that.
Speaker 1:This is a great opportunity you guys out like, rather than sitting around the TV or something like that, you guys are able to bond and and Obviously, you guys got to go watch this golf too. It's great. That's just a cool thing. Yeah, part of as well.
Speaker 3:It's definitely become something that we've all having common, that we've been able to bond very tightly over. Now it now we give discs to the kids for birthday cards and we all write little messages on the back of them.
Speaker 2:So cheers Yeah that's great.
Speaker 3:But what I was gonna ask you was is I find myself like, say, it's a two-round tournament, i'm down in like the MA four division I jokingly call it like MA five, they should have it. I'm telling you, but But I'll go into a round and in I'll just blow it up and I'll be, you know, 1516 up after my first round I'll just be kind of hanging my head and like beating myself up and be like man, like why'd you throw that shot? That was stupid. Like you could have done so much better, because I can do so much better. Just not a turner, just not a tournament, for some reason. I don't get it.
Speaker 3:But, Then what I find happening is I go into that second round and I kind of just let everything go and be like You know what? I got no chance at this anyway. I'm just gonna go and play my game and I've shot some of my best rounds that way. What do you, what do you Attribute to that? What do you think You know, do you have anything So that maybe I can switch that around and play two good rounds?
Speaker 1:Continue to have no expectations. I touched on a little bit earlier of the Be ready for whatever the round is going to give you. Sometimes this golf is going to give you 1050 golf. Sometimes it's going to give you 1005 or even 970 golf. So you better go shoot that 970 golf Because if you try and push for 1050 you're not gonna get there. So that comes down to expectations and also being prepared for whatever the courses and whatever this golf is going to give you. And I really do my best to not think About that kind of stuff and not bring other thought processings into it and really just kind of keep a heavy focus on what I can control. And What I can control is my next throw and doing my best and controlling the six inches that this is out of my hands.
Speaker 3:So, so how do? you how do you temper that between, like, i'm gonna go in and I'm gonna, i'm gonna shred today, i'm gonna give my best performance and it's gonna be a good day, and you have that really good, positive, competitive self-talk and then That stuff happens. How do you, how do you temper that with being way too overzealous and Trying too hard and and really trying to play that 1050 golf, but today is maybe a 950 day.
Speaker 1:You just have to take it as that learning experience, because if you can go into it Understanding that you are learning From that moment, i think most people end up feeling a lot more positive about that experience in general, that that the lesson you get is you get to learn like that's the value that you get out of that day, is that you get to learn, rather than you don't get the value of having a really great round and a really great finish at a tournament. Now you got to learn to get and now you are better because of it.
Speaker 1:So that would be. I guess that would probably be the way I'd try. And you know, kated, that conversation is just really just being kind to yourself and understanding that Sometimes the game is gonna be easy sometimes it's not and that's.
Speaker 1:I know how it goes. And on the days that it's easy, embrace it, love every minute of it. And on the days that it's hard, be ready to learn. Even if you don't want to learn, you have to just accept it. And I, i. It is difficult because it sucks to suck, put it that way but At the end of the day it's. You know, you are playing disc golf and We're going back to that flight thinking about that DX leopard flying straight. It's gonna be a good day.
Speaker 3:Absolutely All right. Well, just a couple wrap-up questions for you, so real quick. How did you get started playing disc golf?
Speaker 1:So a soccer friend of mine When I was about 14 or 15 years old Just asked me he had a yet his driver's license. He's a little older. He's like hey, you want to go play disc golf? Of course real close by my house, let's go over there. I got, i'll get you get some discs, we're gonna play it again and And you can see if we like it.
Speaker 1:He already had liked it, he'd already been playing a little bit, and You know, and he, i just was hooked and we I bought this at Academy But this said, played again when, bought discs everywhere, swam for discs, did all that stuff and then, yeah, this golf really just became a part of what I was doing and I have never really stopped ever since and I don't I'm not unhappy that I there's a good chance that I never get to stop. So, yeah, it's a cool ride.
Speaker 3:Awesome, all right. So next question What's your favorite disc in your bag and why?
Speaker 1:Who, from looking At the moment, is a toss up between Three discs, and I honorable mention, would be my halo dynasty, because it's it's great, but they don't get to throw it that often once we're out in these open courses. But, um, between that, the pathfinder that I hit chains on in that round right before we eagles.
Speaker 2:I remember that I love my pathfinder.
Speaker 1:Pathfinders amazing. And that one happens to be really cool because it's got this like Pinkish outer and like a peachy spot on right on the top right of the disc. So it's like, but it's how it is. It almost looks sun bleached, but it's not. So it's beautiful. So it's got like that two-tone look amazing. And then what way does it? It's a 176, 177 I think okay.
Speaker 1:So it's perfect. Eat those pathfinder, just absolutely sweet. Then that silver spice that I did throw in that I've had two eagles with Recently, which is, i mean, mind-blowing So cool and it's I mean, it's a despise. The disc that I was able to help create with clash and and it's one of the best overstable fairway drivers I've ever used and We tailored it to feel really comfortable to what I like in the disc and you know, i hope more people gravitate towards it because I think it is Can be a mainstay in the 9 to 10 speed overstable with the felons, pioneers, firebirds, raptors of the world. It is so good and And functions great in that slot and hopefully more people give it a try. But then I gotta say, being on a course like in Korea, i have an orange emperor that Swirly Esplan to emperor that I am throwing so far and it's it's given me that excitement For distance throwing that I haven't had in a long time and I'm throwing really far, so it's just an absolute bomber and kind of a dreamer of a disc.
Speaker 1:So Big fan, and so I'd have to put those in there, obviously. Another honorable mention putting putters my alpacas. They're amazing too. It's like it's using one basically every hole, so gotta love them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, alright, two of our kids They're first putters were alpacas, but I want to know do you mark your discs like when you eagle or have a like an amazing shot with them?
Speaker 1:I I Don't, actually I don't. I. I haven't had my design for an ace or anything like that in a long time either. I just Yeah, I just Let it be a little bit of put that in my memory bank you know in my head I'm even on the disc. They also don't retire this often. So if this is getting retired it's probably because like it no longer flies Like at all useful, or or to anything that I needed for that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's yeah for sure. Alright, last two. So how? how was your experiences through disc golf helped you develop as a person?
Speaker 1:Wow, i love that question. Disc golf has been this amazing thing that has Humbled me to my core and I think that there are a lot of things that I've been able to take from my experience and experiences in this golf that have I. I appreciate you, my day is a little bit more. I appreciate my time with Tina a ton more. I appreciate a lot of Amazing up to Tina, my wife for those who don't know, she's on her way to sex. She's amazing. I love you, tina, if you ever listen to this, but it is just humbled me and I get to appreciate a lot of amazing moments because of those things and It's Yeah, it's a, it's a very cool opportunity to meet people and interact and I think you guys being COVID golfers kind of helps helps.
Speaker 1:This point of I remember very vividly playing on tour during COVID Where there wasn't fans on the course and there was very few volunteers and we weren't able to be around each other And that was a very weird time coming from what we were used to to what we are getting now and That all that we're really we're gray area in between. I Think that that's why I have been so thankful to fans, thankful to spotters. Thankful to everybody is because I remember the times where that wasn't possible and I think so much of the, so much of that has come into who I am and Has made me a better person and I'm very thankful for that and that opportunity to to grow as a human being and be humbled by the adversity we faced through and the that the world faced during COVID and, yeah, it's made me appreciate Just every single day a Little bit more so.
Speaker 3:That's what I I hear what you're saying about the fans. I remember watching the Chiefs and Patriots Super Bowl with no fans in the stands and it was weird. Very weird right, that was really weird and, like the Stanley Cup, forget about it. Like what's going on, here There's some rink downtown that didn't even have bleachers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh weird. It's not a bad thing. I mean, you know it was the right thing that needed to be done. So people, we didn't, people, more people didn't get sick like I get it, but also it's like it's still just With like what's, what's trying not let that happen again, please.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure, for sure. All right, last one, eric, so Disc Golf considered. What do you look forward to in the future and plans for your future development?
Speaker 1:I Feel like I'm still growing as a disc golfer, in my game and my skills And, yeah, i just turned 35 then I still feel like I have plenty to learn and my game is getting better and I'm kidding I feel like there's a lot that I can still do in disc golf and She's a big part of the things that I'm really looking forward to is Expanding the, the teams and the players that I get to work with.
Speaker 1:So a lot of what I really hope to do in In disc golf is to, you know, build a like-minded crew of players that are on, you know, any of the three sponsors that I'm a part of, or any of the sponsors that I end up, end up with, and that we can be a group that helps expand and make disc golf better and that are paving paving the way to Leave disc golf better than would have, better than how we found it, and I think that that is the main goal for myself is to just keep finding more people that have that same mindset and and And honestly, i feel like I I already have a great group of people that I do get to work with right now And I'm just like hoping to, you know, slowly add on and find great people and that'll open up amazing opportunities to do even more cool things with them. So, yeah, i think that that's a big part of it for me is trying to Build the team up and make cool things happen. So I I don't know if that means I'll be a team manager, i'll get the course design or if I'll get into any other things making Disc golf better. But you know, i just hope to continue to work with people and make disc golf an awesome place and keep keep it being that thing that people are so excited about. And, yeah, hopefully more people can find that that love of that DX straight shot that I have in In their experiences in disc golf. So it's all I can hope for.
Speaker 3:Yeah, excellent, eric. Jenny, did you have something?
Speaker 2:I just want to say thank you for taking the time to come on to our show.
Speaker 1:It's a very very been a very wonderful conversation.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is tremendous.
Speaker 1:Are very nice and I hope that we do get to come back up to your neck of the woods again And we can keep making cool experiences together. I was, i I've truly truly enjoyed this conversation, so thank you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is. This has been great and we we have enjoyed it too. So one thing I forgot Do you, do you want to do any more shout outs or anything for the end of the show?
Speaker 1:I mean, i just thank you guys and thank all the fans, just as a people are amazing and, yeah, you, you guys and the fans are the reason this golf is. It's as big as it is and I really just think I'm thankful to interact with people like yourselves and also looking and thankful for The people who are in disc golf. That make it all worth it. So anybody who says thank you is just a cool thing, so I appreciate you guys. Time for the opportunity Oh, right.
Speaker 3:Well, folks out there in listener land, you have just spent your intentional time with Eric Oakley on the intentional disc golfer, talking about the power of positivity, getting that right mindset. And Here at the intentional disc golfer, as always, we believe that disc golf changes lives. So go out there and grow the sport. Thank you.
