Fuel For Thought
Join hosts Tracy Elizabeth and Nicole Heller on Fuel For Thought, the empowering podcast designed to help women unleash a healthier lifestyle. With their expert insights and unwavering dedication, Tracy and Nicole delve into the challenges faced by women in achieving optimal health and provide actionable strategies to overcome them. From debunking myths about nutrition to exploring the latest fitness trends, they leave no stone unturned in their quest to fuel your body, mind, and soul.
Each episode of Fuel For Thought offers a wealth of practical advice, inspiring stories, and interviews with leading experts in the health and wellness field. Tracy and Nicole bring their unique perspectives and personal journeys, making every discussion relatable and authentic. Whether you're struggling with emotional eating, searching for sustainable weight loss techniques, or seeking to boost your overall well-being, this podcast serves as your go-to resource for transformation.
Through lively conversations, evidence-based research, and practical tips, Fuel For Thought will equip you with the knowledge and tools needed to make informed decisions about your health. Uncover the secrets to maintaining a balanced diet, discover effective workout routines, and learn how to build a positive relationship with food. Fuel For Thought embraces the mantra of relentlessly overcoming obstacles to achieve your desired results.
Tune in to Fuel For Thought and join Tracy Elizabeth and Nicole Heller as they inspire, motivate, and empower women to take charge of their health, harness their inner strength, and unlock their true potential. Subscribe now to embark on a journey towards a healthier, happier you!
Fuel For Thought
PART 1 - Overcoming Holiday Overwhelm: Embracing Conscious Leadership and Shifting from Victim to Victor in Challenging Seasons
Feeling overwhelmed by the holiday season? You're not alone. We, Tracy Elizabeth and Nicole Heller, are here to help you navigate those 'icky' feelings and change your mindset, using the transformative book "15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership" as our guide. We delve into our own personal journey and share insights from our struggles and victories, illuminating the path to shift from a victim mentality to an empowered one.
Our episode takes you on a journey across various states of mind, exploring the role of location and self-awareness in shaping our mental space. Let's be candid, it's not always easy to maintain a positive mindset, especially when faced with challenging situations or difficult relationships. We share our personal experiences and offer practical advice on how to remain in control and see the good in people, even when it feels hard. Remember, the power to change your thoughts, reactions, and relationships lies within you.
As we reflect on our past conversations, we reiterate the importance of self-awareness and validating feelings. We've found peace and empowerment in letting go of the need to be right and choosing to lead from a place of security and trust. Tune in and discover how to practise conscious leadership in your own life. Our aim is to inspire you to rise above the 'ick', embrace a growth mindset and live a more fulfilling life. Turn your holiday season around and be part of this transformative conversation!
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Hey, welcome back to Fuel for Thought empowering women to live healthier lifestyles. I'm Tracy Elizabeth. I'm Nicole Heller, All right.
Speaker 2:So we're excited today. We're excited. I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 2:I think this is going to be a little different you know we want to talk a little bit about mindset, and you're probably hearing this, you know, podcast somewhere near the holiday season I mean, in my head it's the holiday season already. Industries are up, I'm doing all the things. But I think that, you know, a lot of emotions are coming in with the holidays and a lot of and it's not about like food and not about those type of things, but really thinking about how are we handling our mindset, how are we, you know, handling the ick that we may be feeling? You know, I think that that's such a powerful word to learn how to embrace that and, you know, go through it.
Speaker 1:So so when I hear you say, ick, it's to me, it's like that sigh, it's like that heavy weight.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm already starting to think about the planning, the traditions, the surrounding environment, where I'm going to put my Christmas tree, how long am I going to keep it up for, like all those things. Right, and sometimes it's heavy, like that ick is heavy, yeah. So we wanted to come to you today to really talk about what do we say to embrace the ick? Or embrace the ick to ick or not to ick?
Speaker 2:Or even think about. You know, even if it's outside of the holiday season, just thinking about, like when your world sometimes just feels a little heavy. You know, maybe you're faced with things in your life that other people are experiencing pain and it's part of your world. Or you know our kids are going through it and that's part of our world. Or our spouse is going through it. You know family members and sometimes no matter how, even how good we feel, like we're doing and and you know, like for me, like I'll speak for myself in transparency like I'm in the gym, I'm eating clean, I'm doing all the things, like my high performance habits are in order, I'm reading, I'm doing everything that you know I set out to do every single day, but it doesn't mean that there aren't things around me that feel heavy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know it's okay to feel those things, it's okay to acknowledge those things, it's okay to pour into those things. You know, sometimes we have to just be okay with there being heaviness around us and not having that retreat. And how do we not allow all of that to bring us, bring us down too, but at the same time, you know, I think coming into the holiday season experiencing other people and experiencing things that are out of the normal routine that it's. It's normal to have that feeling of ick and sometimes dread a little bit, but how do we really enjoy it? How do we really stay in awareness? And what I love that we're going to talk a little bit about today is a book that really is special to Tracy and I. We've talked about it probably for the last five years.
Speaker 1:Notice how she has the book and I have a book of notes from the book.
Speaker 2:And I actually had the privilege of training with the author a few years ago and he really is fantastic. But it's 15 commitments of conscious leadership and it really it says it's a paradigm for sustainable success. But at the same time, though, I do agree that this is a powerful book. In any entrepreneur, entrepreneurial, you know area or any kind of you know leadership training that you want to take really for the day to day life lessons, especially for now, in the way we're handling things in a holiday season or whatever it may be, those feelings of heaviness, I think that there's so many life lessons that are in this book that can dramatically change you know how we handle things. And again, I say this often and maybe you know, not with such pride anymore but before this health journey, before this mindset journey, before really looking into that and for both of us we were fly off the handle I literally will punch your face if you say that to me again. And Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1:Merry.
Speaker 2:Christmas. I'm so jolly. You know, both of us like we both came from a place where we were literally flying off the handle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, angry, irate, you know, really had issues with you know how we spoke to certain people at certain times, how we parented sometimes, you know, even I've definitely, you know, will stand and say that I've definitely said some things to Terrence before my mindset journey that probably weren't, you know, kind and you know, really thinking about how I speak and how I respond directly relates to my mindset health and that this book changed a lot for me. I mean, I am a book nerd, you know. I definitely read a lot of books and this was definitely one of my top five as far as mindset training for myself. So it's 15 commitments of conscious leadership and we're going to talk a little bit about above the line and below the line. So I'm going to ask you a question. Uh-oh, right, I'm going to ask you a question.
Speaker 1:So what is? Let me just say she's a little further ahead in her mindset than I am, so that's not true.
Speaker 2:Well, because you're how, you're willing to have the conversation, and that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1:Yes, I think I'm in a state of awareness. We both have come into that place and I think that you know, just going back to what you're saying, like there were moments in our life where we were abrupt, we were irate, we were reacting rather than responding, we didn't know how to give our time, we didn't know how to be aware, like self monitor. But I think that we process and handle things a little differently. So, like in those times that I was a raid, I may have not been as abrupt, I'm more of a silent, irate person. I shut down and you're like the opposite. So it's like now finding that balance and finding the right way to respond in a way that gives us that opportunity to really think All right, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Go ask your question because I'm nervous. So when we think about the concept then we'll explain it a little bit too of being above the line or below the line, what do you think? Just from this morning, was there a moment that you felt that you could locate yourself below the line? Yes, okay, what was it?
Speaker 1:So for me this morning, a conversation came up and it was about at what point do you have a candid conversation with somebody that it may fall on deaf ears and I feel like this happens to me a lot and sometimes I have to be aware if it's really deaf ears or if it's myself telling a story.
Speaker 1:But this morning it was definitely me not telling myself a story and it was the reality of how do I advocate for myself, is it worth advocating for myself, protecting my space, standing up for myself and those are areas that I work on still for many years, years of not knowing that I should but not really being in the awareness that I should, if that makes sense, to now being in the state of awareness of staying up over the line that I have to really process and think about it.
Speaker 1:So this morning, having this conversation and saying to myself what that person did and how they shared it with me, with no thought process of how it would affect me, I had to stop and think and say, well, am I going to give that power to that person to allow them to know that what they did and what they said does bother me, or do I have that candid conversation with them to tell them. So I actually actually came into Nicole and I'm like here's a question for you If I responded this way is that above or below? Because sometimes it is a little fuzzy I feel like yeah, but I do know, and I recognize now the process of stopping and thinking, whether this is above or below is a big deal for me. Location yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Location. So in one of Jim Detner's videos the ending part is that location, location, location. So it is not about I'm perfect, I'm above the line all the time. Let's just talk about quickly what above. So above the line means that you're open, you're curious and you're committed to learning, and that could be in any arena, even in just a conversation with a family member or anything like that. Below the line is closed, defensive and committed to being right. So your ego kind of hangs out, you know, below that line. Not that there's no ego above the line, but your ego is kind of a little bit more important below that line.
Speaker 2:So when you think about the concept of being below or above or below the line, it's normal to be above or below the line multiple times a day. You know it could have been something so silly this morning that you splashed your toothpaste on, you know, on the wind, on the mirror, while you were brushing your teeth and like you were so frustrated in that moment and you threw the toothbrush down instead of just getting something to wipe it. Like that was a below the line moment or it could be something so deep like a conversation. So I think that location, location, location is such an important piece. So if we can mentally train ourselves throughout our day to be aware of where we are, that we're drifting, that we're moving to that location, that then we can sit in a state of control, we can be the dominant force in our life to decide if we're going to drift back upwards, and that alone is the gift, that alone is enough. It's not about saying I need to be above the line all the time because that's ridiculous, not possible. It's just not the world that we live in.
Speaker 2:And being able to drift, feel the drift before we even get there, is the real, you know mastery, but getting being below line, knowing you're there, and how do I get back up? But let's go back to just candor quickly when you talked a little bit about candor this morning. So, like I think that a big part and you know the whole idea of empowering women to live healthier lifestyles is about us finding our voice. And you know, some people may think that that means that we should say do whatever we want whenever we want to do it, because we found our voice and we're going to be loud and we're going to be proud and we're going to do all the things right. The reality is is that truly for me, an empowered, strong woman knows when that's appropriate and when it's not. So knowing that's where I'm still learning.
Speaker 2:Yes, but I'm still discriminating. But it's such an important piece and discriminating is like your jam, so like that's like your thing, so like thinking to yourself like there's a moment right now where I really want to be candid, but if it's falling on ears that are not ready to receive that, are you really going to be able to get your point across? Are you really going to get the validation that you're looking for? Are you really going to make the point that you're looking to make if the ears that you're falling on are not candid ears, if those ears are not ready to receive it? And then, if they're not, how do we sit with that? I think that's where you are, like you are aware, where some people are just not going to hear it and that it's not even worth the conversation. But how do we sit in that space?
Speaker 1:Yeah, when we were talking a few days ago, I was thinking about that and I was part of for myself. It's like you know, when I raise and have these conversations with Andrew and we talk about integrity, we talk about principle, we talk about ethics and all these things, I think when I'm having that conversation and I'm in that moment of discriminating if this person is aware or they will be open, curious and accepting of what I have to say that I hold on to that piece, which is why I feel like I drift back and forth from that victim to going back into that creator, like no, I am the dominant force in my life. I do create that happiness for myself, but then I get so angry because I'm like it's at a principle, it's out of respect, it's out of ethic, it's out of morals, it's out of integrity why aren't they doing that right? And then I have to still figure out how to let that go.
Speaker 2:So that's a piece that I'm always you know, continuing to work on, I think the gift there is that your morals, your principles, your integrity are not the same as someone else's morals, integrity and principles.
Speaker 2:But why not? But that doesn't make any sense. We should all be full of integrity, but I think that, being in the state of awareness that we don't all have that same piece one, you want to surround yourself with people that do Absolutely. But when you are put in a situation where you need to be or have to be in a situation that you're not, a lot of times it could be your boss, or it could be a family member, or it could be someone that you have no choice but to be around. You know the power really comes from within. Yes, the power comes from.
Speaker 2:Well, how do I handle this person who is not going to allow me to be candid with them? How do I sit with it? And one of my biggest things and this is something that took me a really long time and a lot of even damage, you know, with relationships that had to be healed because I didn't know how to handle it was really. I know, and I know we always see the memes of like see the good, the good gets better. And like everybody's got a mug with it. But how have you really stopped to think about that concept? Have you really dissected that Like if you see the good, the good gets better. It is such a powerful mindset piece and it truly works. So, like, if you are in a relationship I'm just going to use family as an example just because family is really the number one thing that we can't get away from if we want. You know what I mean, we can, but you know what I mean is like X, y and Z. I don't agree with this moral, I don't agree with this integrity, I don't agree with this. But the ears are not candid enough to have that conversation right.
Speaker 2:How do you still maintain that? I mean, you love that person, I love that person Whoever's listening, you love that person. Like, let's be real, you do. There's some gratitude there for that person being part of your family. So how do you build that? I can guarantee you that you could find one good thing.
Speaker 2:And if you get hyper-focused on that good thing, those other things I don't want to say they go away, because I want to validate how you feel. They're not going to go away, but they will fade. They will get easier to swallow, they'll resurface once in a while and you'll find yourself below that line again and you know you're trying to drift yourself back up. But they will fade. And then you're training your brain to see that good more and more and more and ironically it comes. You start seeing more of the good when you're looking for it. You say you know, isn't that that Raz brain? That's a whole thing. We'll sort of refer and I'll have to study it a little bit. But like when you're looking for the yellow Jeep and you start finding all the yellow Jeeps, that whole thing so like, if you're looking for it, you're going to find it and you're bringing the peace within you.
Speaker 1:I think for me and definitely I think for you having that faith and having that view of knowing that if you look for it and if you work for it every day and you tell yourself that every day it's possible, right, and thinking about starting from our weight loss journey like there was hope, there was faith, we were consistent, we empowered ourselves and surrounded ourselves with people that wanted it.
Speaker 1:And it's the same thing with mindset Like I am grateful that I can sit down and have these conversations with you and be able to break apart and dissect where I am and where I'm drifting and where I want to go, and then learning how to say okay, well, this is where I want to go, this is where I need to go, what do I do to get there? And that awareness needs to be there. But then that person needs to be there. You need to have people around your life that are going to listen and encourage you but also call you out, and I feel like there was many times in my life I didn't want those people in my life, because I didn't want them to tell me I was doing something wrong.
Speaker 1:But, now it's like I want that.
Speaker 1:So I know if I'm nervous and going to Nicole and telling her something, it's really because I desperately want to work on that.
Speaker 1:And you know I joke around and tell Nicole all the time this is like a conversation about a bag of Doritos, because if I want to eat a bag of Doritos I'm going to tell Nicole I got Doritos in my house, so I know that she's going to hold me accountable. And it's the same thing when I look at my life and I look at the different things that I'm working on to stay above the line, these situations that I have, I'm going to come and say this is what I need help with, like, and have that conversation with somebody so they can really help you identify, maybe, where you are in that triangle drama triangle, yeah, but I'm thinking about what a gift it is that because you're open and willing to have the conversation with me means that what I'm about to say is falling on candid ears so I can speak freely Sometimes, but you do tell me when the ears are not candid, so at least we're there.
Speaker 2:But like, even in any kind of mentorship situation, taking friends as a side, if you have a mentor in your life or you have, you know someone in your life who's guiding you and you value that in your life, in order for that really to be a beneficial relationship, you have to be open, you have to be curious, your ears have to be candid, you have to be willing to hear the hard things, not just the things you want to hear. You have to hear the things you don't want to hear. And that's a true building that. I was actually reading another book actually yesterday and in that book they talked about, you know, the relationship with a mentor and a mentee and that you know it has to be that open, curious relationship and in a priority space. And it's no different when you're having these uncomfortable conversations. Like you're open to what I'm saying to you, the conversation flows, we're listening to one another. You're challenging me, I'm challenging you.
Speaker 1:I was thinking about you all night, based on the conversation we had yesterday. I woke up this morning and I was like brushing my teeth and making a mess everywhere, and I was like I got to have this conversation with Nicole today and I think that reflection piece is and we talk about that a lot like are you reflecting? Are you truly looking at your actions, your thought process? And that helps, like you know, it makes me really think about was I really listening to you? How am I processing what you're saying? How am I going to take what you said and how am I going to take how I feel and move on into today's day?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think the end goal is you know, we talk about empowering women to live healthier lives. It starts with you. It's not about validation, it's not about being right. There's no ego in service. It really is about the power comes from within you and the peace comes from within you.
Speaker 2:And when you really think about that, to me that's the ultimate control. Like if I can create my own peace, if I can accept the things I can't change, just like the serenity prayer, if I can truly have faith that my plan is written for me and that I can create that own space in my heart. That's the like in me, like that's the ultimate win. Like no one can upset me no one actually. The video for above the line and below the line ends with people that are open, curious and spend most of their time above the line, live a life of play. Like I wanna live a life of play. I wanna be happy and curious and open and that comes from here, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think we heard pieces of place, not an emotion, right, and I think about that a lot and one of the best advice that you gave to me is allowing me to feel like. Give yourself that opportunity to feel, but identify a measurable time on how long you wanna feel that emotion. You're not allowed to stay in the ick that long.
Speaker 1:Like it's there but you can't stay there Like I can't cry for days on a last day just to let my lashes pull out. Right, that's not healthy anymore. But really that was the best advice that you had given me for even reflections who really allow myself to say okay, stay in this space for 90 seconds, feel the emotion. But now look at the facts. And the facts are the situation. Is the circumstance just a circumstance? Like I can't control the circumstance, but I can look at myself and look at how I wanna be happy, how I wanna create that like, believe in that faith and believe in that hope, and then take action from there and moving, drifting from that victim mode. That feeling puts us in that victim mode, right, like we're feeling there, we're staying there. But now, once you realize that no, you can be a creator of your emotions, you start to drift up and now you're practicing the actions to really empower yourself and allow you to validate your feelings, but also now to validate the facts, because the circumstance is always gonna be there.
Speaker 2:I think that it's really hard to take action from below the line. Like you could take action but it's gonna be the wrong action, like that's when you're punching people and like doing things that you shouldn't.
Speaker 1:Like honking the horn. Really, that's how we're gonna act.
Speaker 2:That before, exactly exactly. So it's kind of like it's hard to take the proper action when you're feeling those emotions, but you can take positive action when you're back and above the line. I think there was one last piece I wanted to read here that I really liked. It said once you develop self-awareness and locate yourself accurately below the line, you create the possibility for shifting a master skill of conscious leaders and people. Shifting is moving from close to open, from defensive to curious, from wanting to be right to wanting to learn, and from fighting for the survival of the individual ego to leading from a place of security and trust. So good, like that is so powerful for me Like to just go from an individual ego to security and trust. And when you think about the root, even for you just to reflect a little bit of your conversation that we had yesterday when you think about the root of what you were seeking was security and trust, but this is telling you that you create your security and trust.
Speaker 1:I know, I'm like, I know but I know, but I wanna be right. Yeah, we still wanna be right. Well, no, it's not that I wanna be right, because I know I'm right based on what integrity is, based on what principle is, and it's just a matter of moving away. And I know you're 100% right. But I just struggle in that area and I know I'm pretty certain so many people out there feel the same way. It's letting go of that piece, but looking at the creator and looking at what I can do for myself and how I can create happiness, even if that is celebrating my birthday for three months long.
Speaker 2:We're not getting into that.
Speaker 1:We're not getting into that, we're not getting into that, but that is a root of that but also being able to model for AJ the importance of being that and having these conversations with him as well, because there are times that he identifies that I do go below the line and then there are times that he does identify wow that was amazing. It was pretty cool, and I think that that's an important skill.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the finish line is tell me two plus two is 12. And I'm like all right, you do you. I think that that's the main mindset component. You are amazing at that, though I really. It really is a skill that I worked hard on.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:Because I never was that way. If you told me anything I didn't agree with, I literally would rip your face off. And now being able to just feel so much peace, and two plus two is 12. All right, like I'm so glad that makes you happy. I've watched her say that.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad that makes you happy. And I think that that's a beautiful place to be and I, you know, I think we can post this on. Instagram and Even if, because I remember, you know, like I said, nicole's like five steps ahead of me and when she was having these conversations with me, I was like no, it's the Charlie Brown, charlie Brown's mom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I sounded like. That's, that's what you sounded like, but I didn't allow that to stop me from learning what it was that you were actually saying. So like hearing that, seeing that, telling myself that every day, that's what got me to move into that growth mindset, to be curious, to learn how to be that creator, to learn how to be that Encourager, and I think that it's important because you inspired me to want to be that person, to have a conversation with someone where they're hearing me go but they're like alright, I'm ready, I want to learn what you saying. And it's that belief, it's that hope, it's seeing how we live our lives right now, for ourselves, for our children, for the people that we love to really be able to say that's empowering, that must feel really good. So there is that other side. So this above the line and below the line is actually a thing like it's real.
Speaker 2:Yeah and it's such a strategy, like through the day, to just take a breath and say where am I right now? Yeah, you know, if I'm below the line, you know, is this gonna serve my ultimate goal? Mm-hmm, you know, if I am above the line and I'm experiencing good, or I'm learning from someone, how does that feel right?
Speaker 1:now, you know, I something just popped into my head and I'm just, I want to relate to the people out there. They may not really get what we're saying because you know, yeah, it's possible, right of course hard concept and we traveled.
Speaker 1:I think it was last summer. We were in the airport and we travel with a lot of people and and Nicole and I were kind of like at the back of the line and our kids were ahead of us. Her husband was, I think, like already through security and this woman's he's a very fast traveler to your amount. Yeah, he, oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2:For anyone in the airport. We're a family of six and he doesn't even wait for us.
Speaker 1:He also knows that Nicole and I could get stopped and we're gonna have to get searched.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a 30-minute process, but I really wanted to say this really quick because I've no state of awareness is really knowing your environment and and really staying Aware of the things that are happening, especially for the people who you surround yourself with. So that day, this woman was behind I don't know if you remember what I'm saying. So a woman was behind you with, I think, just a daughter, and Nicole was like you can go ahead of us. And I'm like no, she can't. Like in my head. And Nicole's like go ahead, it's fine, and I'm just there watching our kids throw their stuff in the security. And it wasn't about fear of our kids getting lost in the airport they don't have to travel but it was kind of like why are you letting her go ahead of us?
Speaker 1:And that moment of myself state of awareness of realizing I was going below the line for no reason, just for a conditioned mindset, because we're always in a rush and we always know that no, I'm online, I go first, like that. That's just that mentality. But looking back and even said something to you that day, like I know it sounds so small and you didn't realize what you were doing. You in your head, you're like you're doing it because it will make the woman have a better day. And I in my head I'm like why do I want to make the woman? I've grown from there.
Speaker 1:That was two summers ago, but those type of things allow me to recognize now the opposite of from being below the line and drift in. How do you stay Above the line proactively, right. So now it's like I do wake up more each morning and think about what am I gonna do today to stay above the line proactively? Right, because there are going to be circumstances that happen during the day that I can drift below. But what can I do proactively to stay above the line to feel good? So now I let somebody ahead of me online to you or I pay somebody a compliment.
Speaker 2:I like that idea. I think that that's a great challenge for our listeners of just you know, thinking about what can help you proactively stay above the line. You know, can you you compliment someone? Can you it?
Speaker 1:has to be something that makes you, though, uncomfortable. So you become more aware and for me it wasn't really uncomfortable of doing something nice to somebody. It was the state of awareness, of not thinking about somebody else. Right or like I will look at somebody and say, wow, I really like that shirt, but I wouldn't have the confidence or the awareness to stop in the moment, to stop what I'm doing to make that person feel good. Right, so I'm more aware to do that.
Speaker 2:So I like the challenge for listeners today. All right, like I had, I had you stop it like stop in the moment, or maybe even you need an alarm, like on your phone to like remind you, because we don't always stop in the moment.
Speaker 2:But just you know, or maybe put three like hair ties on your wrist and I love the hair ties, I don't have any on my wrist right now but put three hair ties on your wrist and, you know, take a moment throughout your day to intentionally make someone feel good, even though it may even bring you below the line, like you may feel a little inadequate. Whatever it may be, you might kind of like recoil a little bit but like do it three times in a day, move the you know the hair ties over to the other wrist when you've done, when you're done, and like really reflect on how you feel at the end of the day. You know how does it feel that you may have been a little uncomfortable in that moment, but you made that other person feel good. Yeah, that's how you really find peace in the uncomfortable. It's a step in direction to move into the empowerment triangle. I love it. We could talk about that another, another episode.
Speaker 2:I love that, yeah you know, really talking about the drama triangle, the empowerment triangle. It's such a powerful piece, but this is really one of my favorites 15 commitments of conscious leadership. Jim Detner he has some really great videos too. We'll post them up on our fuel for thought Facebook Instagram page and Get it out of everyone.
Speaker 1:We'll put up the challenge on our Instagram page and we'd love to hear your comments.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I.
Speaker 1:Think that's it. I think we're good, that's good.
Speaker 2:You want close this out? Let's close it out. Well, it has been a privilege. Honestly, today, this has been Just such a big piece of my mindset journey and a big piece of healing for me in my life and when I think about the concept of how and this sounds crazy insignificant losing 145 pounds would be if I was still carrying 145 pounds of mental baggage.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:To me, this is the biggest gift of being able to work your mindset, and so this episode for us to share is really, I think, such a big gift for us to give to people and to receive. So if there's Questions and comments and you know you find yourself below the line and no idea how to get back up, or You're living a life above the line and really in awareness of that drifting when you're below, like, just share that with us so that we can take that journey with you and and walk, walk through with you All right.
Speaker 1:Thank you, guys for joining us. Bye guys, you.
