Fuel For Thought

Closing Chapters with Courage: Personal Growth and Overcoming Addiction

Nicole Heller & Tracy Tracy Elizabeth Season 2 Episode 7

Embark on a journey of transformation with us, Tracy Elizabeth and Nicole Heller, as we navigate the powerful lessons from Dr. Henry Cloud's concept of 'necessary endings.' Discover the courage to close chapters in life without seeking justification, a revelation that promises to shift you from surviving to thriving. We delve into the essence of choice in our adult lives, emphasizing that it's never too late to steer towards a more rewarding path. Uncover the strength in letting go and how this can be particularly impactful for those overcoming addiction.

In our intimate conversation, we invite you to reflect on your own narratives while intertwining our personal experiences with Dr. Cloud's profound teachings. We shed light on the urgency needed to spark change and the innate human desire to flourish beyond the confines of mere existence. This episode is not just about listening; it's about engaging in a shared experience that seeks to challenge perceptions, inspire decisive action, and potentially reshape your journey to wellness. Join us for an episode that promises to be more than just a discussion—it’s an invitation to transform.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Few for Thought empowering women to live healthier lifestyles. I am Tracy Elizabeth and I'm Nicole Heller, so we are so excited to introduce something new today to Few for Thought, I'm so excited about it. So, given the name is Few for Thought, we came up with an idea to kind of do an on the spot Few for Thought coming from some of our favorite resources and tools that we use across our life journey, our health journey and ongoing journey. Right, yeah, for sure. But before we start, when you're with your girlfriends, you hang out and you drink coffee, and Nicole and I love coffee. So first we want to shout out Two Rivers Coffee for their amazing coffee pod flavors. I am drinking Coconut Rum. So good, it is amazing. Coconut Rum mixed in with my Octavia hot chocolate protein fuel. I love it.

Speaker 2:

I have mine in my green cup.

Speaker 1:

Mr Rob over here just tried his for the first time and loved this. So stay tuned for that reel. So good. So while we are chatting with our coffee, we did want to mention that Two Rivers Coffee has been so generous to offer discounts, who are Few for Thought listeners. So if you would like a 20% off discount, you can type in FFT those are capital letters 20, fft 20 to get your 20% off and enjoy the coffee. And come hang out with us and listen to our Few for Thought. I love it, right, I love it so we're going to get coffee.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is really amazing. So Nicole a while back on one of our episodes challenged me, or I think she actually kind of forced you yeah, I forced you to read a book to read a book, guys. So I took the time out to read Dr Henry Cloud's necessary endings and it is one of the areas of my life that I struggle and notice. I said struggle, ending things in my life without explanation.

Speaker 2:

Right, yes.

Speaker 1:

So trying to really learn how to navigate and work through whatever it may be in my life, but to understand that there are some things in life that need to come to an end.

Speaker 2:

Yes, without explanation.

Speaker 1:

Without explanation.

Speaker 2:

That's hard.

Speaker 1:

It is very hard.

Speaker 2:

I think it's hard for a lot of people, but I think that it's okay to not need an explanation for everything and not need a validation for everything.

Speaker 1:

That's a big one.

Speaker 2:

That's a big one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need validation and I'm also that type of person. So I don't know if anyone out there which I'm sure people out there can relate to me Like I need to be right and I need to prove to people that I'm right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're working on that.

Speaker 1:

I'm working on it. I'm working on it. So bad and staying above the line.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're very different in that regard.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I did make a commitment through the month of December, which was obviously a very busy month because Nicole loves Christmas.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:

And I love Christmas. I love it and I did take a time out every day and Nicole suggested one chapter a day and I actually finished the book For the first time ever.

Speaker 1:

We finished the book I mean cover to cover guys, and I took notes. I have highlights I actually kept myself accountable that when I was done reading the chapter, I sent my video or pictures to Nicole, with my notes and as also, being my friend and my health coach, we have conversations about the book right. So for a few for thought, on the spot Zoom, what we thought about doing was coming to you guys with one of our literatures and picking out a point in that book to come to you and chat about. So Nicole doesn't know which one I'm going to pick.

Speaker 2:

She's going to give me a little on the spot. So one of Tracy's favorite things to do also with some of her clients sometimes just put them on the spot on their health journey just to kind of help them self-reflect. So she wanted to pull a little something out of this book and kind of put me on the spot on what I thought about this part that she pulled out and I thought that'd be kind of fun.

Speaker 1:

It was really hard. There were a lot of parts, but so in one chapter is create an urgency. And I really love this chapter because it talks about the importance of recognizing our certain situation in your life and understanding that something needs to happen, Some type of change needs to happen, not to understand the why, but to understand that there is a sense of urgency needed. So here it goes Remember you were not designed to cope, but to thrive. That hit me hard, so I got that underlined, I got that starred.

Speaker 2:

That's a hard one.

Speaker 1:

That's a hard one, and what do you think about that, though?

Speaker 2:

So, I think that it's human nature to feel like we need to cope and survive in the world. I don't think that. No, I take that back. I think we're naturally born to feel like we're supposed to thrive in the world. But I think that once we become adults and we're hit with the reality of the world and we're hit with the responsibilities of the world, it turns into a coping, surviving type situation and I think that's unfortunate. But I do think that we have the choice, the power of choice, to find coping skills that are positive, to find coping skills that can be beautiful and to turn that surviving into thriving, with the power of choice as adults.

Speaker 2:

Do I think that everybody does that? No, do I think that we can catch that later on in life, like we did? Yes, later in life, later in life, of course. Do I ever think that it's too late? No, so I think that that's a beautiful lesson to be learned, like somebody right now could be hearing this and saying, well, right now in my life I'm just surviving, but hey, wait, it's not too late. I could actually turn this into a thriving moment.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So the next quote or part of the chapter? It connected with me because while I was just coping and not thriving, this connected. Because it connected. So it said look, I can't even get my thoughts together because I read this book and it brings back so many things. So we get comfortable with our misery and we find ways to medicate ourselves, dilute ourselves, disassociate our feelings and get enough distance from the problem.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so I'll share. I'll share since this is on the spot for me, I'll share a little vulnerability about that. So for me, you know so much about my health journey has been about recovering from binge eating and you know when we think about the term binge eating, what is. You know the root cause of that. You know my story comes from.

Speaker 2:

You know trauma in my life and you know coming into binge eating in my teens, in my 20s, was a lot of sedation. You know, from wanting to sedate those emotions, push those emotions down. So, knowing the science behind it and now knowing, understanding, you know wanting to literally eat this, like why would I eat a bag of marshmallows? Why would I eat a bag of, like the whole bag in the closet? Yeah, like why would I do that?

Speaker 2:

Like understanding now that that was my drug and remembering that I would sit and actually feel that euphoric feeling of not knowing any of those emotions that were going on around me after I ate that, because my body was literally sedated and you're not feeling those emotions of sadness or or anything that's happening around you when you are in that state of binge eating. You know, but then you know when you're coming out of that. You know those emotions are still there, but now they're met with remorse and guilt and all those other things. So you know, recovering from that was a big part. So, yes, disassociating yourself through poor coping mechanisms is very much a part of life. And you know there are definitely different areas that people use. You know alcohol, binge eating, drugs, you know things like that. But recovery is possible.

Speaker 2:

You know, recovery is possible. But I think that surrounding yourself, with the people who are going to have these conversations with you, telling you that you can push through, as a beautiful thing. But you have to first acknowledge that on the other side of that, that you have to face those emotions. You know, we had a conversation with somebody not that long ago who shall remain nameless, but I love you. Yes, we do love you very much. But on the other side of that recovery sometimes it's a little lonely, you know, because you do have to face those emotions. You know you don't go back to. You know those parties with everyone that you're eating like crazy and you're drinking like crazy and you're doing all those things, so you don't go back to that life. So sometimes you're met with a little bit of a different life and you do feel a little lonely in that spot. So it's about kind of taking ownership of that and then creating something new. And new can be just as beautiful, but it takes time to create it.

Speaker 1:

So it's about patience and awareness and love Necessary endings with new beginnings. Yes, I love that, dr Cloud. That might be your next book, just saying yeah, I love that I love it Maybe it'll be our book, yeah you're right.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I would love to write a book.

Speaker 1:

So we hope you guys enjoyed that Fuel for thought on this spot we're going to be dropping now, maybe once a month.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but give us your feedback, let us know what you think on that quick little episode of just giving you something to think about.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would love to hear everybody's fuel for thought on what they thought about Dr Cloud's book. Let us know if you read it. Let us know your thoughts on what we had to say about it. Let us know if you're in recovery from any addiction in your life and if anything is bringing you out of that. And thank you for hanging with us for just a short little episode today. And let us know if you're hanging out with Two Rivers Coffee trying it out. Don't forget that you can use the discount code FFT Fuel for Thought Fuel for Thought FFT20 for your discount code. We want to thank them so much because their coffee is amazing. Tracy and I are totally addicted to coffee Was there a hot chocolate Can't live without it.

Speaker 2:

Thank you guys for hanging with us. We will see you guys next time. Bye, guys, bye.

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