Fuel For Thought
Join hosts Tracy Elizabeth and Nicole Heller on Fuel For Thought, the empowering podcast designed to help women unleash a healthier lifestyle. With their expert insights and unwavering dedication, Tracy and Nicole delve into the challenges faced by women in achieving optimal health and provide actionable strategies to overcome them. From debunking myths about nutrition to exploring the latest fitness trends, they leave no stone unturned in their quest to fuel your body, mind, and soul.
Each episode of Fuel For Thought offers a wealth of practical advice, inspiring stories, and interviews with leading experts in the health and wellness field. Tracy and Nicole bring their unique perspectives and personal journeys, making every discussion relatable and authentic. Whether you're struggling with emotional eating, searching for sustainable weight loss techniques, or seeking to boost your overall well-being, this podcast serves as your go-to resource for transformation.
Through lively conversations, evidence-based research, and practical tips, Fuel For Thought will equip you with the knowledge and tools needed to make informed decisions about your health. Uncover the secrets to maintaining a balanced diet, discover effective workout routines, and learn how to build a positive relationship with food. Fuel For Thought embraces the mantra of relentlessly overcoming obstacles to achieve your desired results.
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Fuel For Thought
Finishing Strong: Empowering Health Journeys, Overcoming Challenges, and Embracing Self-Worth
Ever feel like you’re stuck in a cycle of starting and stopping your diet? We get it. In this empowering episode of "View for Thought," Tracy Elizabeth and Nicole Heller share their personal experiences with the challenges and triumphs of finishing a health journey. From the initial blind faith needed to start with Optivia to the critical importance of momentum and support systems, we provide invaluable insights and practical strategies, such as the 5 and 1 program. Listen as we discuss creative and enjoyable ways to make healthy eating part of your lifestyle and why a deeper commitment beyond the initial excitement is essential for lasting health.
Struggling to maintain motivation after significant weight loss? We've been there. Transitioning to healthy habits for maintenance isn't always easy, and in this episode, we share our personal stories of regaining weight and the mental shifts needed to sustain long-term results. We talk about the importance of trusting the process and sticking to the guidelines without seeking short-term gratification. You'll learn how small changes like swapping sugary creamers for protein powder can lead to a more sustainable lifestyle. We encourage you to embrace your worthiness and complete your goals, creating a balanced, maintenance-focused approach to health.
Facing challenges head-on and learning from them is crucial, and we dive into the concept of "failing forward." Through our personal anecdotes, we highlight the determination required to succeed and the pivotal role of a supportive community. Particularly, we address the internal struggles of self-worth and setting boundaries, especially for mothers, parents, and women. Our stories and frustrations are shared to inspire you to find your voice, establish self-respect, and pursue a more assertive, fulfilling life. This episode is a call to action for anyone seeking to recognize their worth and embrace personal freedom through a committed and supportive health journey. Join us for an honest, inspiring conversation that will empower you to finish strong.
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Welcome to View for Thought empowering women to live healthier lifestyles. I'm Tracy Elizabeth. I'm Nicole. Heller and we are back.
Speaker 2:Back again.
Speaker 2:Back again, here we go, all right. So I think we're coming to you with our finished shirts on. We had some things on our heart that we wanted to talk a little bit about when it came to our health journey. And just finishing it right, just finishing it up you gotta say that better. Like finish it, yeah, no, I think. I think that we have to start with, like the reason why finishing it is important, like like the where it starts from, like the discouragement that it starts from, like people that have been and we've we felt it before, like before starting this last piece of you know, our health journey, like Optivia six years ago, like what we felt, like before that you know the discouragement of starting and stopping and starting and stopping and finding something and not completing it, and starting and losing some weight and gaining it back, and, honestly, not even about the weight, but just the concept of completion.
Speaker 1:But within that first year we kind of found some loopholes on how to really contend for our health Monday through Thursday and kind of start to like learn how to live life a little bit Friday, saturday and start again on Monday. And I think that's why we are at a place today where we want to talk about finish it, because we recognize that at that time in our health journey we weren't aware of how damaging that really could be.
Speaker 2:Right. So I think that, like even before, like let's talk about before, like, making the decision for up to be it right. Like let's talk about that part, like the starting and stopping starting. So like, we came into this already feeling like that blind faith of like I don't know, like, is this gonna work? I don't know, you know whatever, like, and I think that people need to understand that that's okay, like it's okay to go in with that blind faith of like I don't know, okay, maybe it'll work.
Speaker 1:Here goes. Another thing Right here goes here goes again.
Speaker 2:Like I remember starting this health journey saying to Terrence, like I was 283 pounds and I, my exact words to him were maybe I'll lose 20 pounds, maybe I won't, whatever. And he was like what? Like you know, and like I didn't have any you know belief in myself. I didn't have any idea I was going to finish anything. I didn't even realize I was starting something that I was even attempting to finish. Like I, there was no belief in anything. I was just like too dumb to doubt anything. I was like all right, like let's just see what happens. And then, like the momentum started and I think we both that's exactly what you're talking about the momentum started and like we were excited. We were excited it was going, it was going. But yeah, we did figure out that you know we would the best diet is figure it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, exactly. But like that came off the heels of like a lifetime of dieting, know, and I think that that's normal and people need to understand that that's okay. Like I don't want to, I don't want to paint a picture of perfection of what we're going to get to the towards the end of this podcast, of saying like, finish it and be determined, but like we came into it feeling that piece of you know, that diet mindset. Of saying like, yeah, I know what I'm doing, like I know how to'm doing, like I know how to, you know, manipulate that skill. I know how to get it done, you know. But like at the end of the day, when you're really ready to make that commitment to finish it, sometimes it has to suck a little.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think too, we at the start of our journey and even two years into our journey, we never really had a community or an environment of encourages, of giving us that outlook of actually that there was something to finish right, Like. I just feel like there wasn't. It was manipulating the scale. Then there was a goal weight. Then there was just the idea of getting healthy, but not truly really understanding what that can look like and what that can feel like and actually looking at the entire program that we're using to really identify that there is actually something to finish. And then, when you finish that one part, there's something else to finish Right, and then there's a continuation of things to finish, yeah.
Speaker 2:So maybe let's talk in a little bit of specifics. So let's talk about 5 and 1 in general, right? So I think, like in the beginning of 5 and one, everybody was kind of like let's make it pretty, let's like waffle everything, and like and listen, we did, and it was so cute. We had waffle pajamas, like we it was. It was so cute, we had so much fun doing it too.
Speaker 2:And like listen, I lost 100 pounds with like 12 different dash waffle makers, not me, I just had one, no but like I had the heart and I had the snowflake and I had like the skull head, like everybody had like all these really cool things and like listen, at that point it was working, you know, and like it was cool to do all those fun things and the excitement was there. And I think that we're speaking to a lot of people right now who may be just starting out that the excitement is there and like ride the excitement, like I'm not here to tell you like that's it, like throw excitement. Like I'm not here to tell you like that's it, like throw it all out.
Speaker 1:Like I'm not here to say that I mean, I was on Facebook. I was on Facebook Live with pesto mac and cheese and I was waffling that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but how good was that? It was so good, it was amazing. I know that one's gone now.
Speaker 1:Learning how to perfect a type of mac and cheese.
Speaker 2:It was so good.
Speaker 1:There was the regular mac and cheese. The pesto mac was my favorite but trying to like get that like so round in that waffle maker, like I would spend 25 minutes on Facebook Live waffling something, but it really is about that. It's about the excitement, it's about sharing, it's about like community and talking to people, and I think that that was a that definitely was a huge piece.
Speaker 2:It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:It was so much fun I'm sorry for the people that I annoyed with my voice but it was for me, guys.
Speaker 2:No, but it was a lot of fun. And I think, speaking to the people that are starting and like loving the process and making the fun shakes and making the cute little skull waffles, like go for it, it's awesome. Like enjoy the community, enjoy everything that you're doing. But like we want to talk today to the people that are on the struggle bus, like the people that have been here for a while and like you know who you are, like because it was me. Like it was me, it was you. You've been here for a while. Like it was me.
Speaker 2:And like the people who just want to like I've been on five and one for a while and like I just can't seem to get to that end point. Wait, is there really an end point? Or do I really kind of like, do this forever? No, like, no, you don't do it forever. There's an end point to this. Like you're supposed to open up this habits of health book and learn how to eat healthy for the rest of your life. Like how can I shout that even louder from the rooftops, please? Like, like there is a transition phase, there's a maintenance phase. It's so beautiful to learn. Like I want you to learn how to eat healthy for the rest of your life. It is so beautiful Before I left the house this morning, I had a beautiful dish of oatmeal and I had fruit and I had my hot chocolate because you know, I don't ever not have my hot chocolate but like, like, I ate my food to maintain 145 pounds down. You don't stay five and one the rest of your life and and really letting people understand that freedom is possible to feel, I'm like, letting go of diet culture, letting go of you know, feeling like you're attached to a scale, all of that is possible. But I think that sometimes we get so caught up in that culture of, okay, I'm five in one, but do I have to finish this? Because you know I eat, I ate on the weekend and then I gained five pounds but I really didn't learn anything from it. So Monday I'm gonna, you know, go back and then, honestly, it doesn't even have to be five in one, it could be anything. You could be doing anything all week long and crushing it and then not learning a damn thing on the weekend and then going back and feeling that defeat on Monday. It doesn't even have to be about Optivia, it could be anything.
Speaker 2:So, like, what do we do to like make that decision of saying, like I've been here so long and I'm ishing you know that big word ishing where I want to like take that word out of like everybody's vocabulary? You're not ishing, you're actually diminishing yourself. Yes, like you're not ishing the program, you're diminishing you like that's what it, what it is. So, like, what can we do to stop diminishing you? What can we do for you to make a? I'm going to finish it and like, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but like you got to put the waffle makers away, I'm sorry, but like you got to make a decision to say, no, I'm going to do this program the way it's written. I'm going to trust the process.
Speaker 2:A doctor wrote this program. I'm going to follow it to a T. I'm going to do the hard stuff. I'm going to be weird. I'm going to do the hard stuff. I'm going to be weird. I'm going to go to the restaurant with the bar. I'm going to go to the family dinner and say I'm choosing myself. I have my water, I'm not going to have alcohol. I'm going to. I'm not having the diet soda. I'm going to sit here no-transcript.
Speaker 1:And when I look at everything I have accomplished in my life through high school, college, graduates, and I feel like none of that. Even though I finished that, I never felt like I finished it and honored wholeheartedly all the commitments that were combined in each of those milestones. The one thing that I can say I finished was this health journey, and it was, and it's still not over. But finishing the five in one, because Optivia has this beautiful plan outlined and it just comes down to you saying I'm going to do it right, Like we talked about why you're going to do it right. So that's a whole nother thing, but right now we don't even want to get in depth. I don't think we do really that whole core reason of why. But just make a decision to commit to something and say, okay, I'm going to finish it. You have strategies in place, you have a plan in place that tells you eat these five things, learn how to make this one meal, and just do it.
Speaker 2:Because it's easy.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's easy.
Speaker 2:It's easy.
Speaker 1:I mean you started this program after losing 75 or 80 pounds dieting, doing something else. You got this box that Terrence wanted to knock you out for buying. You said I'm going to just lose 25 pounds after you just lost 75 and gained back 80. But now your mindset was I'm just going to lose 25 pounds after you just lost 75 and gained back 80. But now your mindset was I'm just going to lose 25 pounds. So that's like a whole nother messed up thing right.
Speaker 1:I came into this program because you were doing it and said Merry Christmas, and I'm like, okay, I'm going to lose 50 pounds at 300 pounds, thinking I would be okay at 250 pounds. Like we didn't establish at that point that there was an end game or anything. But we're here telling you today, both successfully optimizing a healthy weight loss over 100 pounds, because we finished it. There's something to finish.
Speaker 2:But that's what I mean. I think we've gotten to a point where we've glamorized, you know, any program. We we take any program, it's not just about five and one. Like people glamorize any program out there and try to make any program a lifestyle to the point where they've they've manipulated it, where it's not giving its optimal results, it's taking forever over time. What ends up happening is motivation is decreasing, the discipline is not there, the why is never locked in. So forget it. You know we're not. We're not even there with the why. So like we got nothing going on there. So like now the motivation is going away, the discipline is not there. So now we're kind of like the frustration sets in. And what are we? What are we sitting there with? Like the time is just passing, like I would want to throw my hands up in the air, to like why would you not want to throw your hands up in the air?
Speaker 2:The program is not giving the results that it should because you're not working it the way you should. You've glamorized it to the point where you're making all these things all pretty and changing them up the way they were not written that way. And listen, we've all been there, so I'm not here to point fingers like I've done it. I've done it myself. I've literally smeared laughing cow on more things than I'd like to admit, but I did it. I don't longer do it, but I did it. We don't want to talk about laughing cow cheese, but still like I've done it. But like, what are you? What are you doing in your life right now that you're glamorizing or you're manipulating or you're changing up or you're altering to yourself with your own perspective, your own glasses, that you're actually doing yourself a disservice because you're not able to complete something and you're causing yourself frustration? Like just how about you just trust the process process of something that was given to you and there are people in front of you that have completed it that you can just trust the fact that it does work.
Speaker 2:And, honestly, it doesn't have to just be about me and you. It's not just me and you that finished it. There's lots of people out there that have finished it. It's not just me and you, like. There's lots of people that we even know personally that have finished it and are living a beautiful, healthy lifestyle. So, like I don't understand the concept of you know, staying in that space, like I want to just shout from the rooftops I love you. I want you to love yourself enough to know that you're worthy enough to just freaking, finish it, close it out and let's transition and let's move forward and live a healthy lifestyle and maintenance. It doesn't mean you can't drink hot chocolate for the rest of your life I don't care about that, because I drink hot chocolate for the rest of my life and I absolutely love it but I'm just saying like it doesn't mean you can't have convenient snacks. It doesn't mean you can't have convenient things that are important to you, whatever.
Speaker 1:Let's just clarify that too, like because I feel like we get a lot of questions and we talked about that on one episode too about Optivia Are you going to eat the fuels for the rest of your life?
Speaker 2:Oh, my gosh please.
Speaker 1:So let's just clarify. Because hot chocolate? Why are you and I drinking hot chocolate in our coffee?
Speaker 2:Because it's a really good creamer.
Speaker 1:It's a really good creamer. So, like I mean, we just had a discussion at your. We had breakfast the other day together with the family and Nicole whipped out the Optivia hot chocolate and she's like, do you want half? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, give me half. And our kids are talking about well, actually they were making fun of her because she didn't have her for us and she was trying to make it like all creamy. But it's a habit that we built in. It has nothing to do about weight loss. It has everything to do with the habit that we learned, that we took. We took this protein powder that we absolutely love and we got rid of the toxic sugar and I don't know how much creamer we were possibly using before oh my gosh, I don't even know like I mean there was more creamer than coffee.
Speaker 1:And you know you're out there, yeah, there's. I mean I, when I go stop at dunkin donuts or not dunkin donuts, uh, um, you know any of like 7-eleven or gas station, and I'm like I'm sorry, I'm judging you, but I'm watching like they're dumping the creamers, they're dumping the sugars and I said I used to put the creamer first.
Speaker 2:I'm going to call myself out. Before this program, I used to put the creamer in the cup first and then put the coffee in. So like it would be like that yeah, it would be like three quarters creamer. And then I'd be like oh, here's the coffee.
Speaker 1:Yeah so, but that's the point that we've learned on our weight loss journey to say, like I'm going to go back and I'm going to drink my coffee, so I got to find a way on how I can drink it for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2:Okay, so let's talk about that, let's talk about the habit part, right? So I think that that's another really big question that we get. Like it's not. Maintenance is not about what real, technically, really what you eat, because you learn how to eat, you know, in the transition and maintenance program. So it's about doing things differently. So the coffee example is a really good example. So sometimes you know a client, or even us, would say in the beginning of a journey, like okay, well, I'm not going to drink coffee right now because I know that I'm on this plan and I'm not going to drink coffee right now, but as soon as I'm done losing my weight, I can't wait to go back to my coffee. And I'm losing my weight, I can't wait to go back to my coffee. And I'm like, whoa, wait a minute. Like so let's say, we lose this 50 pounds, which I know you're going to like, are we just going to go back to drinking coffee, like light and sweet, with all the sugar and whatever? Like how do we expect to keep?
Speaker 1:the weight off. I mean heavy and sweet, yeah, Like how are we?
Speaker 2:how are we going to do that? Like no, how about we start right now finding a way to drink coffee and make you fall in love with the process of having it, a way that you would love? Maybe it's two tablespoons of fat free, half and half, or maybe it's the hot chocolate in it, maybe it's the vanilla shake in it, maybe it's you know, maybe you love black coffee and you don't even know it. Or maybe it's whatever. Maybe, maybe it is a sugar free, two tablespoons of sugar free cream or whatever. Even though this doesn't serve me, maybe that's something that serves you. Let's figure that out together.
Speaker 2:You can't just nobody should give up coffee for the rest of their life like that's ridiculous. Like just to stay healthy. Like that's crazy. And that goes along with every habit. Like coffee is the base level habit that we're talking about, but that goes along with every habit. You have to celebrate differently. You go out to dinner differently. You you handle stress differently. You handle wednesday night tv watching differently. You handle the way you drive differently. You handle everything differently to maintain your weight loss. It's not just the food you put in your mouth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I think when you talk about habit and you like, the question that I like to ask is is that sustainable? Right? So you restricting yourself from coffee for however long you're going to, it's going to take for you to lose the 50 pounds and then go back and drink coffee Like that's not sustainable to do without. But looking at this program and looking at or anything that you're doing, what are you doing to establish sustainable habits, right? So the sustainable habits were eating those five fuelings in one lean and green meal, but the habit underneath that was learning how to eat six times a day, every two to three hours Exactly what you and I still do to this day.
Speaker 2:So what do you say to the people that are like, well, it's not sustainable to eat fuelings all day long, exactly.
Speaker 1:You're right, I didn't want to eat them.
Speaker 2:You're exactly right, and that's not the expectation. That is not. The expectation is to fade, you fade and be able to learn how to eat your foods throughout the day. And incorporate that with the knowledge on how to do it, because if you had the knowledge, if we had the knowledge, we wouldn't have been having that conversation at 300 pounds.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's the same concept too, too, when I tell people like you know, I'm going out to dinner, and I'm like okay, well, we all know that when we go out to dinner, no matter where we are, if we even on a health program, if we're dieting, whatever, we all know as individuals what we should be eating to be healthy. We just always chose not to 100%.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know there was healthy things on the menu.
Speaker 1:Why would you?
Speaker 2:I thought there was only fried stuff on the menu.
Speaker 1:I mean, but that's the concept. We just know that what we should be doing. But that's the concept. There was like we just know that what we should be doing, but we choose not to. But now, when you're making a decision to commit to a change in your life, let's start with actually honoring that commitment. Try it.
Speaker 2:Try it.
Speaker 1:Like what's the worst that can happen? You fail, and then what do we talk about?
Speaker 2:You fail forward, we learn from it and move forward, but you really got to learn from it I think the first time that I like tripped up is that the right word tripped up when you're in the car with tacklebell no, that's another story, but like when I tripped up on program. I guess, like in the beginning phases when we like meet a mystique or like decided to have like I don't know, whatever.
Speaker 2:Like imagine if those first times, if we had that all-in mindset, we decided to be like, oh my gosh, that's it, this is not working. I'm done like we would to be like, oh my gosh, that's it, this is not working. I'm done Like we would never be sitting here. No, like I talk to so many people that are like this is not working for me, I just can't, I just can't stay focused, I just can't do it. I'm done. But like I don't know, if I had that mindset every single time, I actually felt that I would have never finished. So, like it's okay to feel that I'm not going to tell you that you're not.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to sit here and sugar yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to sit here and bullshit you. I'm not going to sit here and sugarcoat it. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that it's easy. I'm not going to sit here and say, okay, no big deal, just eat this, and 145 is just going to melt off your body. I'm not sitting here to say that to you. I'm sitting here to tell you that, yeah, you're going to put some work in.
Speaker 2:But I'm also here to tell you that don't give up on yourself. Like you don't have to give up on yourself just because you fall down. Like everybody falls down, and if somebody is in front of you telling you that it's easy and they didn't fall down, they're full of shit, not true, yeah? And like that's their problem, that's not yours. It's okay to fail yourself forward. The program works. Like I'm like I don't know who was I talking to yesterday. Was I on the phone with you? I was on the phone with somebody yesterday oh, I know who it was and I was telling the person and I was like you could tell me anything. Like you could stand in front of me and you could tell me anything you want about optivia. Like I know that the program works.
Speaker 1:Like you could tell me whatever it is that you want healthy and you have hair and you have like you could tell me anything that you want.
Speaker 2:Like I know that I did it, I lived it, I'm still living it, I am it. I know that it works. So you could sit here and argue with me. Did you ever see that meme of that person? That's like sitting behind a little table actually looks like this table could sit here and argue with me. Did you ever see that meme of that person? That's like sitting behind a little table Actually it looks like this table and they're like argue with me about, like you know that country music is good or something like that. Like that's me. Like argue with me that that it doesn't work. Like, please, like, because like I lived it and I know it, you lived it and you're you're not willing to lock into, yeah, the components that's written for you. If you've opened up the box and think you're just going to eat it and it's going to work, or that you're unwilling to learn or have hard conversations, or if your ego is smacking everybody in the face that's trying to talk to you, I can assure you it's not going to work.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that that's the biggest piece. But, like finishing, it is a decision you have to make. But the biggest thing that helped me finish it after losing that 100 pounds, to lose that additional 45, losing that 45 was harder than losing that 100.
Speaker 1:On any given day. I remember I was traveling with you.
Speaker 2:It was ridiculous. Like losing that 100 pounds I'm going to say this out loud Losing that 100 pounds. I could sit next to my four children eating pizza and I was like I don't even want that pizza. My why is strong? I don't even I got new pants Like I don't even want that pizza. I had my cauliflower pizza or I had my chicken crust pizza and I was so good Losing that 45 pounds when I was smelling that pizza. I wanted to cut everybody's throat smelling that pizza. I wanted to cut everybody's throat like because it was a challenge, because it's hard. Yeah, you know that that final decision is hard and that's okay. That determination was different, that determination needed to be made it. It was different and it needed to be done differently. And that that has to be something that you go at with a different lens. And if you're not willing to make that decision, yeah, you.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean and I want to end with because what you just said and we always talk about this the most important thing is, please, surround yourself with people that are going to support you and encourage you and not limit your, just your beliefs in yourself.
Speaker 1:Because even you, when you were traveling we were traveling like my nutrition was 100% on point with you, because, out of respect and I knew I remembered how hard it was sitting around people like that girl who she knows who she is eat that pizza in front of me. I want to knock her out Like I was a nice, she knows. I don't let her live that moment down, because it was literally one of the hardest moments I was still remember out of my and I don't even like pizza, but it was just somebody was eating something that I couldn't eat at that time because it was my choice, but the smell of it was amazing. But to really end with, surround yourself with those people because that if I was in front of Nicole traveling with you and eating burgers and French fries because I'm like, oh, I can, what would happen?
Speaker 2:I rented the car and I would have just left you on the side of the road.
Speaker 1:She would have left me in Florida, I would have left you on the side of the road. But I do think like a huge piece of understanding what you're deciding to do, the components that you need to lock in with and check it in daily with yourself. Are you truly dedicating and honoring yourself to those commitments to finish what you set out to do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I and yeah. I think surrounding yourself with people that are supportive and encouraging is important, but also knowing that the people that aren't don't belong in your boat, Like well, I think that's enough with enough with surrounding yourself with people that are literally drilling holes in your boat and we're like it's okay. No, it's not.
Speaker 1:Sometimes, it's their spouse. That's different. That's a different conversation.
Speaker 2:But like, yes, and that's equally as hard, and I'm not going to discredit that but like I mean, some of us are surrounding ourselves with people that we don't have to and we just don't have the strength to pull back on it. But like, reflect on that, like walk away, yeah, like it's okay to walk away. Protect your peace, protect yourself. Like your health is everything. Never mind, your health, your, your strength and your commitment to yourself is everything. If there is somebody that is continuously saying to you eat this, drink this, smoke this, do this, and it is not serving you. Walk, oh, it is enough. What would you tell your child that is in that situation? Like so often I have said that to myself so many times you guys know I have four kids and like I have been in so many situations where I have caught myself saying something or doing something to myself and I said to myself Nicole, would you have said that same thing to Catherine? Would you have expected Catherine to have acted the same way you just did? And a lot of times the answer was dead ass, no.
Speaker 2:And like we as mothers, as parents, as women, like we have to stop and think to ourselves. Like would we even allow our children to give up on themselves. We constantly give up on ourselves over and over and over again. Let people walk all over us over and over and over again Tell us eat this, drink this, drink this. And we say yes, just because we feel bad. We don't want to.
Speaker 2:I can't tell you how many people I spoke to treat teachers appreciation week, nurses appreciation week this last two weeks, whatever that. I felt really bad because they wanted to appreciate me. So I ate it. Yeah, oh, did they really appreciate you? Like like that's really difficult and I get it. Like you don't want to be in a state of feeling like I don't want to, like I don't want to be appreciative of what they're doing for me and I get that, but like there has to come a time where your voice has to be heard, like you have to put yourself in a place of worth, like you have to stand tall well, we'll be coming back next episode talking about that.
Speaker 1:Yes, are you worthy? Yes, and I think that that would be a beautiful way to really capitalize on how you can start the process on that feeling.
Speaker 2:Makes me angry, I know.
Speaker 1:But we weren't there in the beginning either. So I think now we're, anything we share does come from a place of passion, because it's a state of awareness that we're in, and we talked to so many people and it's frustrating. Because it's frustrating because we want to, we want to give it to them and we want to. We're showing you, we believe in you, we want you to feel that you are worthy and it does start with that person recognizing that they want to start feeling that way and that's the frustrating part is that sometimes they don't.
Speaker 2:I also wish that I felt it years, years sooner. Like I think that some of that um passion comes from the root of man.
Speaker 1:Like I wish some of my 30s look different oh sure, yeah, as far as I miss like a whole decade of my life, I think back and look at how I feel now versus how I felt then.
Speaker 2:I didn't feel that I missed out on a lot as far as like your voice is concerned and being able to just feel that sense of worth and it's crazy when you think about it, but knowing that, if you're listening to this right now, that you can make a decision to say no, like I want to finish this. I don't want to stay in a state of what's happening. I don't want to stay in a state of mediocrity. I don't want to stay in a state of you know up and I don't want to stay in a state of you know up and down, up and down, up and down, up and down. I want to finish it. I want to learn how to be free. I want to learn how to walk into my closet.
Speaker 1:I want different. I want to feel different, get excited for the unknown. Yeah it feels good.
