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S3 Ep 10 What If I Just Ran? A Journey from Anxiety to Achievement with Beth Giles
What happens when anxiety meets opportunity? For Beth Giles, the pandemic's uncertainty sparked an unexpected journey into running that transformed both her physical and mental landscapes. This episode reveals how simple daily walks evolved into something profound when Beth asked herself, "What if I just ran?"
Beth shares the raw, honest story of how running became her sanctuary during pandemic isolation, daily work stress, and even through her mother's hospice care. The physical act of running created space for mental processing, allowing Beth to navigate life's challenges with newfound resilience. "Running is something that, when you invest in it, the return on investment for your body and your mind is amazing and tenfold," she explains.
We explore the evolution from casual pandemic running to organized races, discussing the unique courage required to take starting lines and the pride that comes with finishing. Beth's candid insights about hydration struggles during longer distances, the joy of sharing race medals with her late mother, and her refreshing perspective on body types and movement will resonate with runners at every level.
Most powerfully, Beth's philosophy encapsulates what movement can mean for anyone willing to try: "Don't let dreams be endangered species." Whether you're a seasoned runner or someone who's never considered lacing up, this conversation invites you to explore your own "what ifs" without dismissing them before giving them a chance.
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Hello and welcome back to Over the Next Hill Fitness Podcast. I'm Carla Coffey, your coach and host for today's program. This episode is brought to you by Coffey Crew Coaching. If you need a personal coach for personal training or running or what have you, if you just need to get mobile, look me up. You can email me, carla, at CoffeyCrewCoachingcom. You can find me in the show notes. There's a little button that you can push and that will directly link you to me and you can send over your inquiry. Or if you have a question that you would like answered on the podcast, we can do that as well. If you have friends that need me as a coach, please share. Also follow, share and rate the program. That really helps me climb up the ladder a little bit.
Speaker 1:It's also brought to you by HydraPatch. If you haven't tried HydraPatch, you really need to. There's a 20% discount in the show notes that you can use to give it a try and see if you like it. Especially with the warmer weather coming up here all over the world, finally kind of getting out of winter, it's great to help keep you hydrated. You still need to drink, but it really helps in those hotter days. So today we're going to be talking to Beth Giles. We had a lot of fun recording this, as well as after Beth, and I find that we have a lot of people in our circle together, so that was kind of fun to touch base upon that. But yeah, listen to the story and I hope you enjoy it. Welcome to the show, beth. It's great to have you here.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. It's an honor, a pleasure. I'm very excited to speak with you today.
Speaker 1:I'm excited too, so let's get into it. When and what made you start running?
Speaker 2:This is an interesting story, great question, obviously, and one that I really like talking about with other runners as well. I did not start running until the, I should say I didn't start running consistently until the pandemic. So turn back time or don't right Until it was about January 2020, maybe even sooner, maybe a little bit into 2019. And I think there were a lot of people at that time that had what I call hairline anxiety, right, like a hairline fracture. It's a little bit of anxiety running through you that is manageable and doesn't affect or impact your daily life. But there was something about the fear of the pandemic, and I remember the news story. I'm located in Wisconsin and I remember the news story where they were setting up a makeshift hospital. At then it was Miller Stadium, amfam Field, where the Brewers play in Milwaukee and that for some reason, took me back to watching MASH growing up, or just the idea of this makeshift hospital, and I thought, you know, we had all transitioned to working at home and I knew I needed something to get out of the house and something to help me stay calm and know that. You know, we just needed to take one day at a time in this, and so I started walking.
Speaker 2:I would just, you know, get up in the morning and walk. We had a little motto. We were saying with our colleagues that your feet need to hit the street before your butt hits the seat. And so I was walking in the morning, and then walking on breaks between meetings, and then that's when people are putting hearts in their windows. So I was watching the hearts in the windows on my walking path and, as funny as this sounds, my feet just wanted to go faster the downhills.
Speaker 2:And then I would start counting I'll run for this many steps and then walk for this many steps. And I started playing all these little games in my head, which also gave me something else to think about for a while. And then it turned to what if I didn't walk? Then it turned to what if I didn't walk? What if I just ran? And it was there where I really found my bliss, I really found my peace. I found a space where I was able to breathe, where I was able to know that some way or another, we were all going to get through this. And there would be another challenge after this in my personal life, in our collective life, as a world, as a society in my professional life, and so running became for me, and so running became for me the space to get through those challenges.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we call that running off the crazy.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's a great way to say it yes, absolutely, Absolutely. And now you find yourself, I find myself saying at times when I can feel it inside me like this live wire, and I'll say to my colleagues or my family or my friends like I just need to run, Like I just, you know, yeah, I reacted, you know, more dramatically about that than I should have, because I just need to run. Or I can't decide what to order at a restaurant because I just need to run, I just need to center my head.
Speaker 1:Right. So when you're driving and you see a path and people are running on it, do you get jealous and go oh, I could be running right now.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely Like. Look at that, Look at that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I also judge distances. Like oh, if I break down here, I totally can run from here, right.
Speaker 2:Or you just think about it. When your GPS says, you know, in 0.7 miles, I'm like oh yeah, I got that.
Speaker 2:You know, or it's 10 miles too. I'm like, okay, so it's a, you know, 6k between here and there, or 10K, six miles, 10k. You know, you're always doing the calculations in your head and how far and what would it take? So my the yoga studio that I love is about eight miles from here. So I'm like someday, one day, I'm going to run to yoga and do yoga and then someone has to pick me up.
Speaker 1:And it's Uber home.
Speaker 2:So it's. It's really become that coping mechanism for me in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so now have you run eight miles before. Is that, or would that be a longer distance for you?
Speaker 2:No, I have. So that you know, running to stay calm, running to cope, turned into what if I ran in an organized situation, which was another big hurdle for me. Because I am hurdle for me because I am, uh, I I like to be in a comparison space. You know, for better, for worse, mostly worse, but you know this person, that person, so I know it's about beating yourself.
Speaker 2:Um, so I realized my golf watch could also be a running watch, so I started watching my times and I started watching distances and I started with the five Ks and I went to the 10 Ks and then we, uh, my husband and I, really enjoy Door County, wisconsin. It's a little peninsula part of Wisconsin. It's just great, and I would see signs when we were up there for the Door County Half Marathon and they closed it's one of the only times they closed Peninsula State Park, which is a beautiful, beautiful park. It's very hilly and I'm like I wonder if I could run the Door County Half Marathon and that gives us a reason to go to Door County. So I have run it twice now that's in the beginning of May every year, and it is, it is hilly and it is phenomenal and it is beautiful and so, um it, it.
Speaker 2:I do love. I think our question of the day where I go to yoga, we have a question of the day, and our question of the day the other day was what's something you do that's brave? And I thought to myself, uh, taking starting lines every time I take a starting line, I have to, I have to bring my brave self there to know that you'll start and you'll finish and it'll you know, it'll look like whatever it looks like in between, but you'll start and you'll finish. And so I do love, I love the events now. I love the races. I love the events.
Speaker 1:That's great. How long into your walking and then running was it before you did your first race, do you remember?
Speaker 2:I think it was the first turkey trot. So I think I started walk running in like January, february, and I think I turkey trotted that November and I remember not thinking I was going to make it. And then we were getting toward the end and I saw the ambulance which just parked at the end and I thought, well, that's the end and it's right there, so I should keep going. One way or another I'll get across the finish line and I'll be okay, or I won't. And medical professionals are already there, um, but I did, I. I got through it, I ran the whole way, um, and then that was the first. That was the first race.
Speaker 1:Okay, and do you do that same one every year? Now, I do.
Speaker 2:Well, I have. We've been going a few different places for Thanksgiving so it hasn't always worked out timing-wise. But even there are some years that I ran that turkey trot the morning of Thanksgiving and then we'd go back up for the weekend to Door County. And they have a very funny version of their marathon. It's sponsored by One Barrel Brewing Company I don't know if I'm allowed to say that and they move the decimal point, so it's a 2.62 mile run. Some years it's snowy, some years it's nice. It is downhill going out and then uphill coming back, but it is fast and fun and it finishes at the brewery and it's just a great race. So sometimes I do two that Thanksgiving weekend, two little ones.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's great. I love that moving that decimal.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. Yeah, it is just hysterical, and so that's what they say. It's just a fun run, but that's their version.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now, does your husband run with you? He does not, but he has the backpack on with water and flip-flops for after and fresh socks and really shows up on the sidelines for me. So you know, hears me say, I see him at mile 10 in the Door County half marathon and every time I say this is hard and he's like and you're almost done Right, and sometimes it's just, you know, just hearing people say that.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah, and if it wasn't hard, everybody would do it. As they say right, yeah, exactly, exactly. So now halfs. That's your go-to. Do you like the half distance? Is that your favorite?
Speaker 2:I think 10K is my favorite, but I think that's just because I haven't. It's hard to carve out all the good time to prepare for a half.
Speaker 1:So, they.
Speaker 2:they're always a little bit of a struggle for me and, of course, the one that I choose to run is, um, the elevation is just bananas, like the first year. The people who I was starting with they were like is this your first half marathon? I was like it is. And they're like and you chose this one? Like this one. Did you read about it? Do you know? I'm like, yep, yep, I know what I'm in for, absolutely. And I was so proud of myself that first time because I ran all the hills and people were walking and I'm like, hey, look at me, I'm running past you. And then I got to like mile 11 and I was like where's the exit strategy? Like I'm not going to make it those last two. So I think you know 10 Ks. I feel confident all the way through. I have a little bit left in the tank. At the end I can find a little energy, you know, when I see that finish line. But the half marathon, that's.
Speaker 1:those are the I love the distance, but it is not comfortable for me at all. Yeah, so have you done it for the last five years then, since 2020?
Speaker 2:No, no, it took me a long time to build up for that. I've only done 23 and 24. So I've only done two half marathons.
Speaker 1:And are you signed up to do it this May?
Speaker 2:I am, we'll see. I'm struggling with a hamstring injury, which is fine, it's going to be fine. It's just interfered with training. I had to take some time off that I wasn't counting on. So there's another opportunity. There are two races here in Madison, one in August and one in November, and they both have half marathon options. So I might just have to bump it. Bump it back a little bit in the calendar year, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, isn't that funny. We hadn't talked previous, and I'm in Madison as well, are you? Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2:So I don't know if I explained to you where Door County is, or anything like that.
Speaker 1:The listeners aren't all from Madison but, it's a small world. That's great.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Well. Maybe I'll see you in November or August if you race in Madison. Small world, that's great. Absolutely Well, maybe I'll see you in November or August if you race in Madison.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we've probably seen each other on the paths. I bet at some point.
Speaker 2:So that's, yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1:So what was it like for you, um with learning hydration at the extended mileage of a half? Was that challenging to learn how to hydrate to go from 10K to half?
Speaker 2:A hundred percent and I'm I'm a terrible hydrator. I will just admit that I was laughing. This morning I was listening to the latest um nobody asked us podcast and Kara Goucher was giving Desmond in a hard time about hydrating. I just don't. I really Desland in a hard time about hydrating. I just don't. I really I don't get thirsty, I don't. I don't like the feeling of something in my stomach when I'm running. So it it is very hard for me to take in fluid, and you can get away with that in a 5k. You can get away with it in a 5k, you can get away with it in a 10k. I'm not advocating for that, dear listeners. Please don't do this. But you can't in a half marathon. I can't. I don't. I mean maybe if you're I don't know if you're not me. So I really had to teach myself and the person that helps me with running distances and sort of coaching had to say like if you've got to walk to get it down and walk while it gets through you, then then do it. But you can't or or at least you know swish it around in your mouth and spit it out, but you can't not.
Speaker 2:I did a Ragnar race in Michigan and it was like the hottest weekend on record in Michigan. There was no way it should have been this hot. It was ridiculous. And I was running my second loop or whatever, and I, that was one where I really I was out there and I didn't bring a I don't even have a camelback or any, even a handheld, like I just don't, I just don't like to drink, um. And so my team was like no, you got to take this. It's so hot out, you have to take it. I'm like okay, okay. So I took it and I had never been, uh, happier. They, they all had this secret plan to like we're not letting her go without water.
Speaker 2:I thought it was going to be this big fight and they're like, please take this. And I said okay, and they're like, oh, thank goodness. And I have to really convince myself to take that sip of water. So I don't know, it's hard for me but it makes a huge difference. I know, you know, logically, I know right, you got to eat the sport beans, you got to drink, or whatever. I know, you know, logically, I know right, you got to eat the sport beans, you got to drink or whatever. You have to drink the water. But it's hard. I would rather just go right by that that aid station and deal with it at the end, but I'm the one that wakes up in the middle of the night with the charley horses on the foot cranks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know when you think about it. If you think about your car, you know, know you got to keep fluid in it, right? Right right yeah, it's the same thing with us, you know but yeah I know it's hard.
Speaker 1:I have a couple athletes that are I'm just now saying hey, um, do you have water bottles? Because you know are you drinking on, you know, at the mile mark just trying to get them. The same way, you know it's like you got to do it. You just you know you have, you have to, or you you can finish, but you'll finish stronger if you stay hydrated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, you just don't, you don't feel terrible, you know. I mean there are times, even when I've gone, tried to go, you know, all out on a 5k and get, like you know, my personal best or whatever, and I'll just be, you know, having to put my hands on my knees at the end, and you know, just cause I, you know, and of course there's not an aid station usually on a 5k, but it's the hydration all the way through my training that I just haven't attended to and so, um, it shows up. You know there are things that I could do to to be more, uh, efficient and effective.
Speaker 1:For sure, yeah, because you've got to train your gut to accept it too, you know, so you don't notice it, like you said, feeling it sloshing around, I mean, if you drink too much, obviously. But even just those sips, you know, an ounce here and there will help.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It could train your stomach to feel it feel better with it. So what has it been like with your family and you training and aside from your husband, do you have children that are supportive or non-supportive or anything?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we, we don't have children. So I think one of the it was fun to share my experiences with my mom. As she aged, I would bring her the little medal that you get, even for the little races. It's interesting to hear you say training and I just kind of think to myself. I'm just a recreational runner that likes to do things, but I do have that mindset of knowing what I want to watch, timing and pacing and all those things. So it would be fun. We'd go see her where she was living after the race at Thanksgiving and put the medal on her neck and she'd show all her friends there that look what my daughter did. And so it was fun. And she has passed now.
Speaker 2:But that is another time in my life that running really helped. I actually, when I knew when hospice got involved, I would run and I would say to myself in my head there will be a day that you will be running and your mom will no longer be with us. And it was like training myself to accept that and see that with running as the staple, like running was the through line. That's what was going to be there for me as that situation happened in my life, and so it has helped me.
Speaker 2:You know, carving out time, you know, even just with the husband and with my job, is difficult, but I also think it has had a profound effect on how I can cope with things in my family life and finding that time away, you know, when we're all together and I can feel, you know, overwhelmed with peopling, it's like, oh, I'm just going to go for a run. And you know, sometimes even the people say it's like, oh, I'm just going to go for a run. And you know, sometimes even the people say, oh, I'll come with you. And it's like, sometimes I even run and I get out there a while or a ways and I'm like, oh, it feels maybe like a little bit of a walk there. I'll take the edge off what I want to do a little bit so I could have had company. But the point was to get in my own headspace and work through some things and calm down. So I think my family benefits from that part of my running.
Speaker 1:Agreed Some of the shirts that you can see. You know I run so I don't kill people. Yeah, it's kind of true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just a better. I'm a better listener, I'm a better partner and I'm a just a better person when I can get out there and get some mileage in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's so good, like as I mentioned at the beginning, to run off that crazy. We need that and everybody has a different thing, like some people bike, some people draw us, you know whatever. Whatever it is for you, you gotta find that and it has to be like just yours and it's nice, you know whatever whatever it is for you, you got to find that.
Speaker 1:And it has to be like just yours and it's nice, you know, cause I run with a group of girls on the weekend sometimes, but during the week I'm okay running alone. That's my time, you know, and I need that. We all need to find something, whatever it is, to just kind of decompress.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. And you know, and I went through this injury and they were looking at it and talking about physical therapy. First, you know, are we MRIing it and then is it physical therapy, is it this? And I kept saying there was someone on my primary care physicians team who is a runner, that I get to see every now and again, and so I made an appointment with her and I was like, look, this is about running and right, this is also about, you know, it's about physical wellness, but it's about my mental health, like we got to fix whatever this is, because I have to get back out there Like there's so, um, it's, it's. It's nice that that running is that for me and that other people are feeling that as well. You know, I had the opportunity to be a soulmate for Girls on the Run.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And that was a wonderful experience, a really fun fundraising experience and supportive experience from that particular organization. And so it was great, too, to see that they talk about that with young girls who are getting so many messages about their body and society and bullying and all the things that they're facing. Now that you know, we laugh about like thank goodness I were in cell phones when I was growing up, but it's I think it's just harder to be a young person these days and using running in that way to teach young women or any young athlete that it's a way you can process and a way you can feel proud of yourself. And again, it's about taking a starting line and crossing a finish line. When you get to a point that you're paying attention to time, that's great, but it's also great to just get out there and it really will. Running is something that, when you invest in it, the return on investment, I think, for your body and your mind is amazing and tenfold.
Speaker 1:I agree. Yeah, I am a volunteer coach for the girls on the run. This will be my third or fourth season, I think and you know, it's not really about the running. They do run, but it's more about the lessons that they're learning, the things that we're doing with them to help them cope with bullying and all that. So, yeah, and then the ones that come back and coach as well later is it's pretty amazing, I guess a lot of them do, which is oh cool, yeah, so you're right, we, you know, if you have family members or you know somebody that needs an outlet, even if it is just a walk, because they don't run the whole time. You know, especially in the beginning of the season, a lot of them aren't, you know, conditioned, but just walking the fresh air, getting out there and getting the stuff out of their brain. So, yeah, it it's, it's a good organization.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I was in the 5k. It was maybe in 2023. Is that when I was a soulmate, I think 24. Um, but it was the, the 5k out in Verona, wisconsin, and the it was so hot. I remember it was, like, you know, again one of these record heat days and they were scrambling to put up another aid station and, man, it was just a hot one and you know, we were fine, but some of the girls were, you know, like you know, really really needing the water and it was just unfortunate. But everybody got across that line. But, yeah, it was just one of those days where it's like, oh, really, does today have to be? In the 90s? We ran for a while on blacktop and you could just feel the heat coming off the blacktop. Yeah, I had to change. As soon as I got done, I'm like, oh, get this off me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those are the days when I like to freeze my water pack that goes on my back and wear it Even if I'm not drinking out of it, at least it's frozen. Or I have a bandana that I'll fill with ice and let that drip down your back, you know there's nothing bad yeah. Just some kind of water dripping on you, yeah, and when I run the neighborhood I always look for the water sprinklers. You know I'm like who's not watering their lawn today? Come on.
Speaker 2:I know right, where can I run through? I did ask someone once. I'm like, can I just run through that really quickly? It's like knock yourself out. I'm like thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've done that too. It's the best.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:And it reminds you of being a kid. Look at you a little weird, but that's all right, I'm okay with that, because I am a little weird.
Speaker 2:So who cares? So you do maybe have Door County. If not, you're going to hit one of the Madison halves. I hope to, and if 2025 is just a year of 10Ks, then so be it. I have to be in this for the long haul. So if that's you, uh, my physical therapist is a runner as well, so she's really honest with me about you know when to push and when to back off a little bit. So, uh, we'll see, but there will definitely be a couple once, once, uh, summer gets here.
Speaker 1:So you're good.
Speaker 2:And then what's after that anything um that.
Speaker 1:You got your eye on that you'd like to accomplish after that.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, I don't have marathon aspirations. If I did, it would be Chicago. But I think, you know, I love following the big marathons. I love I put the Boston app on my phone and watch the winners come in and I love that. But I think half is it for me. I can get there, I can get across that line and I just feel proud of myself, but I think that's all I have in the tank. I don't. I don't think I'm a marathoner, so yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 1:Not everybody has to be just finding you know what makes you happy. That's, that's where it's at, right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love. We went down the documentary rabbit hole um over winter break for um, all the ultras right and the all the documentaries about the ultras and the Barkley and all these things and it was just fascinating and I would watch it a hundred times and I would crew for someone. For sure I would love to crew for someone. I will never do anything like that, um, but it was. You know, it is just cool. The places that this sport can take you is just just phenomenal.
Speaker 1:So they keep extending the distances. It was like uh, two, 50 and now there's a 300, and it's like those miles are insane 50 and now there's a 300 and it's like those miles are insane.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm always, at the races that I go to, really impressed with the people, um, who push people in the wheelchairs I don't know that I'm strong enough to do it, um, and I talk with them and they're always like, well, we switch off and it doesn't matter and you know, just come and join um. So maybe one day, someday, I would like to do some things like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I push for Ainsley's Angels here in Madison.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's exactly the organization. I didn't know. I'm not affiliated with them, so I didn't know if I could mention it, but those are the people that I see at the race and they're always so friendly and wonderful. But I feel like you just have to be faster than I am or have greater strength. I don't. I don't know, but maybe I'll give it a try this year.
Speaker 1:There's been times when we've pushed and we did two people pushing and there were three of us, and then one person would move out and the other one would move in, and we just circled around like that, because if it's a hilly course or if the person you're pushing is is a little bigger, then it just takes more effort and that way you're not getting as tired as quickly yeah, it works.
Speaker 1:They make it work and sometimes there's like five or six people on a team, depending on. You know the amount of volunteers and then you know you're pushing 10 minutes and even if you're just walking it's totally, totally fine. So yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just helping them to experience that and get across the finish line too, so Well now that we're connected, maybe I'll have more inspiration or be a little braver, not so shy to come out and just give it a shot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they won't push you away, I promise. Very good. Do you have any other words of wisdom that you'd like to share with the audience? Anything we didn't touch on that you'd like people to know about you?
Speaker 2:You know not. I think we all have the opportunity to find some joy in movement, opportunity to find some joy in movement, and I think we lose it as we get older, maybe thinking about how much I think, about how much we danced as little kids, right, or just moved to music or otherwise, and so I would encourage people to find that joy in movement again. We spend a lot of our time sitting. We have young people spend a lot of their time sitting in learning situations and so really remembering that our bodies were meant to move and there is no. You have a this kind of body or ability, right, like, oh, you should run Cause you have a runner's body, or you're built like a gymnast, or you're built like a. Everybody can move and any movement should just be celebrated and rewarded. And so I think it's, it's getting past the.
Speaker 2:You know, I remember that moment, standing at the top of a hill, the sun was coming up, cause I like to run, I like to watch the sun come up. When I run, I'm a morning, I'm not a morning person, but I can be a morning runner. Um, and I remember just thinking like what if I ran? You know, like it just. And so find that what if? In your life and just meet it. And of course you and I are talking about running, because that is the podcast. But whatever your what if is, don't dismiss it. We're so quick to dismiss our ideas before we even get to the question mark of what if we're already on to. That will never work. I could never do that. That's not possible. Don't let dreams be endangered species right? Just find that what if and go toward it. Just go toward it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. That's great. Don't let dreams be endangered species, because, yeah, I talk to a lot of people and a lot of them say, oh, I'm too old for this, no, you're not. Find what it is you love and make it happen. Your lot of people and let them say, oh, I'm too old for this, no, you're not, you know, find what it is you love and make it happen your version of it, like you said there's, you know, it could be your version of running. I've talked to a lady and she called it wogging. She wasn't quite jogging, she wasn't quite walking, she was probably walking.
Speaker 1:I know right, that's great, you do you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's probably what I look like at the end of my half marathon. Sometimes I think I'm walking.
Speaker 1:That's all that matters. That you finish, though it's at the end. That's all that matters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, exactly. So yeah, don't count yourself out before you even got in the situation. The game, the dream, don't take yourself out of it. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Wise words. Thank you so much. All right, well, it was great to have met you and I'm sure I'll see you in the past sometime. Thanks for being on the show, oh my gosh, it was my pleasure.
Speaker 2:Thank you for all that you do for the running community as well. We need each other.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Thanks. Bye-bye now, bye. Community as well, we need each other Absolutely Thanks. Bye-bye now, bye, all right. Well, thanks for listening to the episode. I hope you enjoyed it. Please continue to follow, share and rate the program. If you're needing that coach, reach out to me. There's a button in the show notes that you can contact me directly. Share it with a friend. If you think their story needs to be on the podcast, I'd love to hear from them. So thanks again and have a great day.
