Why A WWII Propaganda Poster Is Basically Old-School TikTok

Fewer people personally know someone who served, and that quiet shift changes how communities understand sacrifice, leadership, and even citizenship. We sit down with Scott English, president of the Pritzker Military Museum and Library in Kenosha, Wisconsin, to discuss how a modern military history museum can close that gap by telling authentic, relatable stories about the citizen soldier and the families who serve alongside them.

Scott shares how the museum evolved from a book collector’s library into a full-scale museum and archive, why Kenosha has embraced the move from Chicago, and what it looks like to build a true community hub around veterans service organizations. We also get specific about what stories still get overlooked, from the Korean War to smaller but significant conflicts like Grenada and Panama, and why preserving those voices now matters more than ever.

Then we go practical: digitized collections, oral histories, and how to turn an hour-long interview into a five-minute piece that still respects the truth. We preview the museum’s Chicago gala, including its Spirit of 76 theme and the Citizen Soldier of the Year honor for General Stanley McChrystal, and we cover what to do if you have military artifacts at home and want to donate or simply preserve them safely.

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Transcript

Welcome And Meet Scott English

Larry Zilliox 0:00

Good morning. I'm your host, Larry Zilliox, Director of Culinary Services here at the Warrior Retreat at Bull Run. And this week, my guest is Scott English. He's the president of the Pritzker Military Museum and Library, which is located in Kenosha, Wisconsin. And for those listeners that are not all that familiar with Wisconsin, it is in the lower right-hand corner. It's a uh a really pretty little city right up against the lake, Lake Michigan, and not far from Chicago. It's probably straight up 94. You're probably looking at uh a little bit over an hour if you if the traffic's not crazy to get from the loop up up to the museum. So anybody in and around the Chicago area listening, there's no excuse not to to go for a visit. Um, and also they have a big uh gala coming up, which we'll talk more about. Um, and Scott uh is the president, and if I'm not mistaken, you're not prior service, are you, Scott?

Scott English 1:05

No, sir. I uh I came here from the nonprofit space in Pennsylvania, and then I was in book service

How The Museum Started And Grew

Scott English 1:12

before that.

Larry Zilliox 1:12

And this is uh this Pritzker Military Museum and Library was actually founded by a retired Army lieutenant colonel by the name of Jennifer N. Pritzker. And so I'm assuming that uh she uh is responsible for the initial funding. And and uh is that uh is she related at all to the uh Pritzkers of Illinois?

Scott English 1:37

She is a Pritzker of Illinois. Uh she is cousin to the current governor of the state of Illinois. Colonel Pritzker started the the library, it started as a library about 25 years ago. Really, she was the uh she was a pack rat and a book collector and had about 10,000 items per library and needed a a taxpayer-friendly, a tax-friendly way of managing that collection. And so she started the Pritzgum Library. Um, next thing you know, it got a space, it started having speakers, people wanted to make donations. Um, and then it just sort of evolved into what is now today the Pritzgame Military Museum and Library. We moved from Chicago in 2024 up to Kenosha. Um, I started as president last August and have been in the process of uh really setting the the next chapter for the PMML in Kenosha. Wow.

Larry Zilliox 2:32

Um and you come from the uh the nonprofit world. You you previously managed a kind of rough and tumble largest stamp collectors organization in the world, right? That is correct.

Scott English 2:45

The American Philic Society and the American Philatelic Research Library, located in Belfont, Pennsylvania, as the director for 10 years there. Uh I was hired to take over and fix their financial problems, which we succeeded at doing. And then uh I had so much fun 10 years, I said it's time for me to get out of the way and let somebody else come in, and I did. Uh, and it perfectly with an opportunity like this. And and I think as I tell the my successor at the APF, it worked out great for both of us.

Larry Zilliox 3:17

And do you find that the that your role with the Pritzker Museum is similar in in fashion to what you you did there in Pennsylvania? Is it sort of the same thing, just a different

Building Community For Veterans Families

Larry Zilliox 3:32

collection?

Scott English 3:32

So I was raised by I was raised by a Marine. Uh my father uh served in the United States Marine Corps, my father-in-law was a 22-year veteran in the Navy. And the thing that I learned from both of them is this idea of community. And, you know, when you work for sand collectors, when you work for the military community, it's the same thing. It starts there. And so, yes, we have a museum, yes, we have a library, but those things are in consequence if you don't have community. And so my goal has been, you know, both at the APS and now here is the idea of creating that community and building on that community. So we've changed a little bit of our focus since I've come there to do more with veterans service organizations, with veterans' communities themselves, with people who've served in any number of different ways, military families. I never want to overlook the military families. They sacrifice almost as much as our soldiers do. Um, and bringing them in, and that's the community that I want to start with because those are the stories that we're telling.

Larry Zilliox 4:34

Do you do you find that the community there in Kenosha is pretty receptive to not only the museum being located where they are, and I'm sure it brings people into the community that spend money, but that it it gives a place for veterans to tell their story, but also bring friends, relatives, and people to see the collection to better understand the veterans' story, actually.

Scott English 5:02

I think one of the biggest challenges we have to, I'll start with this, which is I'm a East Coast uh young man by birth. Uh I was born and raised in Maryland. I lived in Washington, D.C. for 11 years, lived in South Carolina, lived in Pennsylvania. So I've never been to the Midwest until my wife and I relocated here for this. Um I found is a very welcome community in Kenosha. I live just a couple of miles down the road from the museum itself uh in Summers, which is, you know, just outside of Kenosha. But um it's an incredible community. The Midwesterners are very friendly folks and they make you feel at home. Um what I found with the museum itself, though, and working with uh uh our community here, it's that being service connected isn't as common as it used to be. When I was growing up, I knew a lot of folks that served in Vietnam, had served in the Army, were part of the National Guard, run down the list of things. Um, what I noticed with the Global War on Terror, even though I wasn't working, you know, even though I wasn't an active duty person, I was working with a lot of veterans communities and military communities, both in Washington and down in South Carolina. And I saw that the universe of service connectedness got smaller. So I think our museum's mission now is to reintroduce that connection in a different way by telling the authentic stories of people that serve and giving people an opportunity to meet a soldier for the first time, or, you know, for the first time when they've not had an opportunity to do it before. Um, because there are fewer people out there who are called up to, especially to combat service. And um, we know this with the global war on terror, that there were so many different soldiers who were being cycled back and forth again to Iraq and Afghanistan. And so being able to now create a forum and a place for people to meet soldiers and veterans for the first time is very important. And people have welcomed us with open arms as a result of that.

Why Focus On The Citizen Soldier

Larry Zilliox 6:56

And is this where your focus on the citizen soldier grew out of, or uh how did that come about?

Scott English 7:03

So the interesting lane for a lot of museums is to pick a conflict. Um, often, you know, you have the World War II Museum, which is a partner of ours down in New Orleans. Um, you have the Canticney, which is very much on the first division. So you you you're very conflict-oriented or very geographic oriented. We took a different approach. And the reason why we took this approach is because the authentic stories of soldiers are so diverse that you want to be able to tell that lived experience and be able to share with the audience what it was like to be a soldier in different perspectives, right? It doesn't matter what story we want to tell. There's something there that people can identify with and connect with. And so being able to share those stories has a lot of power to it. It's got a lot of personality to it. And what we found is people are embracing it in that way.

Larry Zilliox 7:51

And

Underrepresented Wars Worth Remembering

Larry Zilliox 7:52

what kind of veteran stories do you think are still underrepresented today?

Scott English 7:57

You know, I had a great conversation. I was at an event today with uh because we were we're working on bringing an exhibit up called Above and Beyond, which is um outside of the wall in Washington, D.C. It's the only other Vietnam veteran memorial where every name of the service members that were killed in Vietnam exists. Um, but while I was at that event, I actually got grabbed by a Korean War veteran who said, you know, our stories don't get told nearly enough. Um and, you know, he is pitching me on the idea of doing more Korea-focused events because because we're we still have a handful of Korean War veterans left, but obviously we know very, you know, we know a lot about World War II, we know a lot about Vietnam, but a lot of things other than the the television show MASH, I don't know that a lot of people ever have any real understanding of what happened in Korea. And so um, I think that's that's probably a conflict that deserves some more attention. I would also say this in the 1980s, if you look at things like Grenada and what we did in Panama, those were active conflicts. They were very significant in the moment, but don't necessarily get a lot of attention outside of that moment. And so I think being able to preserve those stories, particularly while we still have veterans here that served in those events, would be useful.

Digitizing History For Younger Audiences

Larry Zilliox 9:10

How do you balance preserving history and making it relative to a younger generation?

Scott English 9:18

And and that's a challenge that a lot of museums have been going through, particularly in the post-COVID era, where uh, you know, when we saw in the pandemic, a lot of museums saw a drop-off in their attendance. Um, the way that we're approaching it is we don't want to have a bias towards being physically in the space. That is, we have 12,000 items that are digitized on our website today. So you can already go there and see 12,000 different artifacts that we have in our collection. You can engage them, understand them, learn more about them. We have a wealth of information between the programs that we produced, uh, television programs we produced, which are about 600, as well as the oral histories that we've collected. We have almost 400. You know, my first mission was, you know, when I pitched my strategic plan to the board, the way that I couched it is I want to be rooted locally, I want to be relevant nationally, and I want the cons, I want the experience to be consistent no matter how you engage us. And so what I want to be able to do is take the treasure trove of information we have. And there are a lot of museums out there that have these same treasure troves, and I want to make them as accessible as humanly possible. So over the next year, we'll be developing all of that in, you know, a new website into a new visitor experience on the site, you know, in the site itself. But it's all going to be very much content-driven. And we know that that's always going to appeal to a younger audience, whether it's, I hate to use TikTok because I think that's not the most ideal way of delivering information, but it's got to be in those digestible video bites where people can watch something and uh, but in the time frame that they have allowed to them, right? Because life is coming at you from so many different directions. So being able to take an hour-long oral history and turn it into useful nuggets of information that are packaged together in five to ten minutes is probably the way that you have to do it. But then it gives them enough to want to see the tactile side of it as well. And that's why they that's why they come to the museum.

Larry Zilliox 11:13

So how do you do that without going insane?

Scott English 11:20

Uh, that is a great question. I I think, you know, I uh storytelling is as old as time. And and I'll give you an example. When I take people through our museum, one of the things that we have there are propaganda posters uh that come from World War One, World War II. And when I point to them and I say, by the way, this is your social media of the 20th, early 20th century.

Larry Zilliox 11:43

Yeah.

Scott English 11:44

Because you have uh you have it you know provocative images that are designed to evoke an emotion. And that's really not different than what goes on today in social media. So the way that messaging is done, the the the there's a nuance in the way that they're delivered you know from 1945 to say 2026, but you know, the the intent is still there, the design is still there. And the worst thing for to tell a baby boomer or you know a Gen Xer is by the way, you got uh, you know, you sort of got information in the same way that the current generation is. They don't want to believe that. Oh no, I read books or oh, I didn't watch a lot of television. Yeah, that's just not true. It you know, these are these are all time-tested methodologies. And so really it's about creating those parallels and introducing this information in a way that our our modern audience will enjoy. But as it turns out, it's really not all that different from what our previous audiences enjoyed.

How Content Decisions Actually Get Made

Larry Zilliox 12:43

Do you do you are you the one who decides the content gets boiled down into that that smaller time frame, or do you have people helping you, maybe a committee and says, okay, we want this message. So what do we need to put in there to get that message across? Um I'm just fascinated by how this works.

Scott English 13:04

It's a multi-layered process. So we have a professional staff of about 20 people that that work, you know, part-time, full-time with us. Um, people who are in our archives department or in a collections department, they're really engaged in the material every day. Uh, I'm the guy that, you know, I'm the public figure. I am the fundraising, you know, one of the fundraisers. I do a lot of those things. And ultimately I'm the uh the strategic guy. But we have a committee of uh we have a board, which is an incredibly capable board. We have an incredible group of folks who are mostly military connected in a lot of different ways, but also succeeded at some other part of life at the same time. So they not only succeeded in the military, but they're also very accomplished individuals. We also are building out now a group of advisors that are historians, that are people who are working in a lot of different walks of life to again make those experiences real for people, in whether they're walking in the museum itself or whether they're engaging us online. And so that's there's gonna be, you know, more hands make less work, right? At the end of the day, a good product comes because you've included a lot of people and a lot of different perspectives, not because you've it all sprang out of my brain.

Touring The Library And Archives

Larry Zilliox 14:18

Let's talk a little bit about the collection. Uh it's quite large, isn't it? Not only artifacts, but the library. Uh it's it's it's I think probably larger than what most people would think.

Scott English 14:30

So the library itself has about 70,000, it has over 70,000 uh items today. I don't want to say books because they're they're predominantly books. We also have DVDs, CDs, uh, we have board games, we have any number of things that are relevant to researching not only military history, but military connected service, popular culture that fits within the military realm. Um, so there's a lot of different items in there. And today, if you're not a member of the Princeco Military Museum and Library, you can access our library uh through a catalog and you we can do interlibrary loan. Most of our items can be available through an interlibrary loan. Um the archival collection itself has over 40,000 items in it. That's everything from uniforms to propaganda posters to materials. So we have collections of letters and correspondence that go from soldiers back home to people, you know, to people here explaining and detailing their life in a conflict or something like that. Um, we have an incredible collection of uh correspondence from generals and admirals and other notable figures during World War II that were collected by a young, then a young man. He was a 14-year-old boy at the end of World War II, and started writing letters to generals and admirals asking just for an autograph or a photo or something like that. And it turned into a long-term project where he was corresponding with a lot of very notable figures who would send him letters. One of my favorite examples in there is a letter from he wrote to MacArthur on VJ Day, congratulating him for finally beating the Japanese. This was the third letter he'd sent to MacArthur asking for his signature. And, you know, he he, you know, I think he appropriately uh shined up the general as he appreciated doing, uh, and you know, asked for his, you know, asked if he would mind sending an autograph. So MacArthur in True MacArthur fashion wrote his name on the letter that he sent him and sent it back to him. But these little snippets, I mean, the the collection is just amazing. And so if you come, we do have a full tour, which it happens every first Friday. Uh, and you can come in and not only see what we have in the exhibit space, but also be able to take that tour into our archival collection and our library collection and meet with our collections team who will tell you more information about them.

What The Museum Owns And Holds

Larry Zilliox 16:58

Does the museum own the artifacts, or is a certain percentage of it on loan to the museum, or how does that work?

Scott English 17:06

Everything in our collection was accumulated either by the museum through donation, through purchase, or something like that.

Larry Zilliox 17:11

Right.

Scott English 17:12

So the the one exception to that is, and I always make this clear, is that we have a medal of honor that was awarded to Woody Williams, uh, who who fought in World War II. He was a Marine uh and was a hero at Iwo Jima. And Woody, we actually have two of Woody's medals as well as uh all of the uh all of his collection. He wanted to entrust that with us. So as I tell people, we don't own Woody's medal, we're holding it for him.

Larry Zilliox 17:36

Yeah. Well, our our listeners are probably familiar with him and uh the foundation his his uh family has. That's right. Wow.

Donate And Chicago Gala Preview

Larry Zilliox 17:46

So um, well, listeners, let me direct your attention to the webpage for a couple of reasons. One, it's uh Pritzkermilitary.org. So that is P-R-I-T-Z, like zebra, ermilitary.org. And I want everybody to go ahead and take a look at the webpage. And as you're all familiar with, I'm gonna tell you what to do. When you hit that webpage, you look up in the right-hand corner, you're gonna see that donate button, bang on it, give what you can. Um, a place like this, uh, just probably keeping the lights on is ridiculous expensive. So they're gonna need all the help they they can get to spread the word about veterans and their service and families of veterans and how families serve. And so your donations will really be going to a good cause. You'll also see that they're going to have their uh annual gala in Chicago at the uh Hyatt Regency McCormick Place, which um anybody who's lived in the Chicago area knows where McCormick Place is. Um, Saturday, September 19th. And uh it's a gala with themed uh Spirit of 76, Birth of the Citizen Soldier. And tell us a little bit about what's gonna happen there at the Gala. Uh I'm assuming you're gonna feed people, right?

Scott English 19:16

Uh it is a great event. We for every table sponsorship that we do, this is what I really appreciate about what we how we approach things. Uh, for every table sponsorship that we have, we give away two seats at that table to someone who's either an active duty military veteran or an active duty military, a veteran, a member of a military family. And so we invite the community to come in and spend time with us. There's no cost to them.

Larry Zilliox 19:41

Right.

Scott English 19:42

Um, there will be a meal. We will recognize uh three recipients of our founders award. Our founder every year bestows founders awards toward people who are either making a significant difference in the veterans community, in the military community, or for the PMML. Wow. Um, and uh in addition to that, we also recognize our Citizen Soldier of the Year. Now that's not, I don't know if it's on the website yet or not, but I can tell you that our citizen soldier this year will be General Stanley McChrystal, um, who will be there not only to receive the Citizen Soldier Award, but General McChrystal will also be our fireside chat host. So he will be speaking uh at the event as well. And if for those of you who are familiar with General McChrystal, I could, I suspect he could probably do hours upon hours of talks uh that would hold an audience's attention. So we only get in for about 20 minutes, but um I think it's gonna be 20 minutes well spent to hear him speak about you know leadership and his time in serving in the military and all the things that he did, particularly his time with the Global World Terror. And so if you're in the Chicago land area, you can certainly go to the website and we are already accepting sponsorships. I'm in the process now of working through that. Um we had a very successful event last year, would like to see us do that again this year, just to make General Crystal Field at home here in in Chicago. But we we have friends and partners from all over the country that will be uh here for that night to honor him. And uh there is, you know, we will not run out of tables. Uh I say that we'll end up running out of tables, but uh there's never, you know, there's always room for anyone who wants to come and join us for that event. So go to the website, learn more about it. It's not too early to plan to be there for that evening, but we know it's gonna be a wonderful event.

Larry Zilliox 21:28

Yeah, well, here's to wishing that you run out of tables because uh it's a big space, and that would be a great fundraiser if that happened for you. And wonderful choice of uh guest speaker too. Wow, that's gonna be something. So listeners, keep checking in on the webpage there, Pritzker Military dot org, and look for you know, continuing information about that and when tickets might be available. Because I I I guarantee you it's gonna be a really fun, fun night. And uh I just wish I lived closer.

School Tours Without Shock Value

Larry Zilliox 22:03

Um the I guess the the one thing I'm very curious about is uh how do you differentiate telling the story, the same story, to adult visitors as opposed to children and younger adults that might come for a tour uh as a school group.

Scott English 22:26

So, you know, the the the phrase I like to use is age appropriate. That is when you're uh you know, when you're telling stories to adults, you can there are certain elements to the story that you can leave in. Um when you're sharing stories about loss and tragedy and suffering for you know the under 18 crown, the K-12 crown, you you have to be very careful about that. And then instead you sort of focus on the conflict, you focus on the objectives of it. And, you know, I am working now with a group of folks, it's gonna take me a couple of years to get this completed, but really taking, you know, distilling those lessons we've learned from citizen soldiers and turning that into a leadership learning opportunity, not just for adults, but also creating one that is aimed at school-aged children so that they can feel a better connection to military service by learning the principles that that many soldiers learned, you know, in the battlefield. Or uh, you know, and and you know, I've heard this story more than once, which is I didn't know what I was capable of until I was asked to do it. And so, but part of that is just because the military instill instills certain things in you and attracts certain types of people. And so um, you know, they bring that valor with them. They didn't, they didn't earn it when they got their uniform, but they bring that valor with them and it just gets unlocked thanks to the US military.

Larry Zilliox 23:48

Do you remember the first group of school kids that you saw come through after you started in your position?

Scott English 23:55

So we have a we had a group come through, I want to say probably two or three weeks into my tenure there. And fortunately for us, we have the exhibits that we have right now, now we're about to bring a different kind in, but uh most of the exhibits that we we have there are art related or image related. And so it really gave the kids an opportunity to engage the the uh you know, we have a Marine Corps art exhibit there now, which, you know, I say this is the son of a Marine. I didn't know Marines were artists, but um, you know, it but having combat artists be able to sort of bring their story to life that helps, I think, in a way for school-aged children to see something that is not graphic, it's not very intense, and it allows them to better understand a little bit more about the military experience. So we always want to make sure that we have those good visuals there that help them better understand and better appreciate military service with again without shocking them. Um, so we try to keep that balance in play.

The Next Five Years And Cold War Relevance

Larry Zilliox 24:58

Well, what do you think? Well, let me ask you this. Where do you envision the library going, say in three to five years? What would you like to see different?

Scott English 25:08

One, I want to be able to have a visitor experience that that has an emotional center to it. So we have the Medal of Honor exhibit. I want to take something like that, that story of a very heroic individual from really just a farm kid from nowhere, right? That's Woody and and you know, but was put in an incredible situation and uh, you know, emerged from it as a true leader. And I want to be able to have those stories feel real to individuals who don't have that military service connection. Whether you're in Kenosha and you're you're engaging our museum by walking through the front door, or you come to my website and you're able to start hearing the oral histories that we have available and really starting to understand the soldier experience and being able to see the images that we have of our artifacts so that you can engage them and research them. So no matter where you are in the world, I want you to walk away from the Pritzker Military Museum and library, fully appreciating the lived experience of the soldiers that we, their stories we tell as much as you can consistently. And so my goal was to make that experience almost a 360 opportunity, 365 opportunity for you. Whether you're in the museum itself or you're on the website, you're engaged in that. And at the same time, add to the intellectual uh firepower that is about military history and uh, you know, even current policy. I mean, part of our part of our ambit now is to introduce the Cold War element in there. And the reason for that is because even though we've, you know, we emerged victorious from the Cold War, it's not going to be the last one we deal with. I think there's one probably sitting there right now with us in China. And there's honestly those lived experiences through the previous Cold War can be very useful for us again. And so we want to make sure those lessons are there, that all the things that we learn from those moments can be discussed today and into the future.

Larry Zilliox 27:00

Well, I I agree with you. I think uh, well, we learn from history, and it's so important we need to understand history to help us understand the what we're in now and what the future may hold for us. And listeners, we do uh an episode on uh Cold War history with Gary Powers Jr. You can go back and listen to that. I think it was last season, and the Cold War Museum, which is right here in Northern Virginia. Um, again, that webpage is Pritzkermilitary.org. Please visit the webpage, donate what you can, check out the collection, and then listen, Wisconsin is a is a really interesting state. They got a lot of cheese, and they got a lot of places to fish. If you like lake fishing, Wisconsin's a place for you. So if you're going up there to get cheese or you're going up there to fish, or whatever you're gonna do, go by, swing by Kenosha and visit uh the museum and the library and check it out for yourself. It's a beautiful place and it's quite a collection.

Donating Artifacts And Preserving Family History

Larry Zilliox 28:07

And uh one last thing, too, before I forget, if if somebody has material, let's say, I don't know, Grandpa Joe's uniform or Grandpa Joe's bayonet or Grandpa Joe's boots, I don't know. And they is this something can they donate artifacts to you? Is there a list of certain things you take, you don't take? Uh how does it work?

Scott English 28:32

So we, you know, we encourage people to reach out to us in advance, let us know what they have. Often we get images with pictures and things like that. In some cases, you know, particularly with uniforms, everyone's got a uniform. And so, you know, I'm holding on to my dad's Marine Corps uniforms and you know, I will treasure them, but they'll never be valuable to the museum itself because we already have those.

Larry Zilliox 28:53

Yeah.

Scott English 28:53

So it's really just that it depends. Now, here's the the the trick to that, which is when people reach out to us, if we can't take it, we don't necessarily want it to disappear into the wind. And so we will work with you and make some suggestions about where you might be able to take it if we're not able to take it on. But there are also going to be other things that um we know will be incredibly valuable as part of our collection and allow us to really tell that citizen soldier story. So please reach out to us and you know, you can reach out to me or anyone else. Uh, we'll get you to the collections team and they'll work with you on what you have in your collection, give you some suggestions about what to do with it. Um, we're also working on uh doing some online sessions where we can teach people how to preserve their family history. So if they want to hold on to dad's uniform, um they can and they want to protect it and make sure that it stays in the family. Um, there's just some certain things you have to do in order to be a good steward of this, whether you're bringing it to a museum or holding on to it personally. So you will expect to see some more of that coming from us as time goes on. And then through those conversations, I suspect we'll we'll get people who want to donate items to us and they'll reach out to us and do that. So, but reach out to us anytime if you've got something valuable and you're looking to clear out the basement or you know you're moving and you want to make sure that it's protected, or you're you know we're in a flood zone and you don't know what's gonna happen to it, reach out to us because it's better to protect it today than worry about it tomorrow.

Larry Zilliox 30:17

And listeners, uh, set your expectations properly too. You know, it's one thing if your grandpa Joe was a an enlisted aide to a three-star general and he, you know, he kept the general's dentures or something, as opposed to, you know, Uncle Joe, who you know has a set of wrenches stamped U.S. government because he worked in the motor pool. Um, so not everything from past military services is worth something. But uh yeah, if you do think you have a unique item that might be valuable to the collection, you know, definitely reach out to them. And go on the webpage and you can see the collection. You can see what they have and what what they uh are putting out, you know, for people to look at. So don't throw it away. And like you said, uh they'll help you find a place for it or make some suggestions. And there may be a local historical society or there may be uh a smaller museum regionally or you know, just something local that uh it might be very interested in having it. So again, the webpage is PritzkerMilitary.org. Um, Scott, I can't thank you enough for coming on and talking about this wonderful collection that you have.

Scott English 31:38

I want to thank you for the time. I one real quick thing since your listeners are in, you know, you have a lot of listeners in the Virginia area. Um, I just want to say hello to all my fellow Terrapin alums. So I'm a class of 93 graduates from the University of Maryland, wow and uh and a longtime suffering Washington football fan. So um my condolences to all my friends back home for uh sticking with the team. Thank you for your loyalty, and I'm I'm out here in the Midwest suffering with you.

Larry Zilliox 32:06

Well, I grew up with the Bears, so you know, yeah, it's crazy. Um well, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Thank you for your time.

Final Thanks And Next Release

Larry Zilliox 32:16

Yeah. Hey, listeners, we'll have another episode next Monday morning at 0500. You can find us on all the major podcast platforms. We're on YouTube and Reese Across America Radio. So until then, thanks for listening.