No Magic Bullet Podcast - An Honest Discussion on Mental Health
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Episode 5 Season 5
CS Life: Choosing Your Thoughts With Shane Harle
Host Bobby K, a comedian and mental health advocate who lives with Tourette syndrome, which comes with a triad, OCD, ADD, and Anxiety, introduces episode five, season five of “What’s In Your Toolbox?” and longtime friend Shane Harle, a former teacher and coach. Shane describes starting a private ski school at Mount Washington called Podium of Life, focused on helping students reach their own “life’s podium,” and notes several athletes from his program, including his son Teal, became Olympians. He explains his C’s of Life coaching: positive C’s (celebrate, cheer, compliment, congratulate) versus “crippling” C’s (complaining, criticizing, comparing), emphasizing that choosing thoughts affects emotions and performance, supported by tools like goal-setting, accountability, meditation, visualization, and mantras.
Shane shares influences from his mother’s outlook during cancer, growing up with 47 foster children, and nature-based wellness, and credits support from his sister Shawnee Harle and brother Shannen. He now lives a life of Celebration with his life-partner Stacey, who reflects the beauty of all the things around her. Together they pass along the Cs of Happiness to everyone they come in contact with.
00:00 Welcome to the Podcast
00:37 Meet Shane Harle
03:27 How We Met
04:31 Podium of Life School
06:17 Choosing Your Thoughts
08:35 Applying It to Mental Health
12:25 Mom’s Example of Positivity
15:11 Teaching and Hyperactive Kids
17:35 Tools Meditation and Mantras
21:25 Nature Based Wellness
25:07 Support Team and Advice
29:06 Closing Reflections and Next Episode
A disclaimer notes Bobby is not a doctor and speaks from lived experience.
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Welcome to No Magic Bullet podcast series. What's In Your Toolbox? is a monthly podcast on mental health. I am your host, Bobby Kay, comedian, mental health advocate, and executive producer of the documentary, No Magic Bullet: What's In Your Toolbox? An Honest Discussion on Mental Health. I am 70 years young, suffer from Tourette syndrome, and love doing these podcasts that always reminds me to practice what I preach.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052Hello, everybody. Welcome to episode five, season five of What's In Your Toolbox? Tonight, actually, it's 9:00 here. My guest is in Kelowna, so it's 6:00 there. So that's nice 'cause it allowed me to take my sunset tonight and still record this with my friend. We've known each other for over 30 years, many iterations we've been together. He told me that he was from Alaska, born in Alaska, but he I knew him when he was in Campbell River, so he's my kind of guy, an outdoor guy, a fishing guy, a hiking guy, a skiing guy, and he is a teacher when I met him. So this episode's called SEAS Life, and he's gonna tell you about that. He used to have a business maybe still has it, he'll tell you about, called Podium of Life. I knew him when he started a school to train athletes at Mount Washington. I met him up at Whistler, and then when I did some comedy in Kelowna, he was kind enough to come into the audience. So we have a lot of history, and I want him to tell you about his two boys
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052Yeah.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052fantastic kids. And actually, when they were young guys, they came over to my chalet. Their mother, grandmother brought them over, and I showed them how to tie flies, so there's another connection. So there will be show notes, and you will be able to see SEAS Life's... be able to get in touch with them. And as it says on my guest thing, "Embrace the power of SEAS." So without ado... Oh, by the way, when you look at his picture on Facebook or Instagram, and those links will be in the show notes too, you'll see the most positive human being alive. I could stop taking my Clonazepam and Valium and just drink my guest's energy. So without ado, I wanna introduce you to Shane Harley. Hey, Shane.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052And
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052H- how did I do?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052we talk about this, you won't have to pay, take any of the ha- Hazopans. You'll be able to choose your thoughts so you can live a life like I do, like other people do. That's why I named my website
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052Okay. Let's hope that happens. But in meantime, I do all my tools, plus I take a little bit of pads
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052and
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052just to take-
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052that it's, it, they don't have... They're chemically or they're, however they're built they need extra help to manage their emotions and,
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052like my psychiatrist says, it's not hurting you, so until it does, let's continue it on. So Shane Harley, how do we know each other?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052years ago. I had just been married to a wonderful woman named Cory Henderson, who turned out to be Cory Harley. And we were going on a boat trip with y- me, Lloyd, her dad, and then the guy who owned the boat, and we went fishing. And right away, we hit it off. We started being sarcastic. You said some really offlandish outli- outlandish lines, and I had to laugh. ever since then, every time we've said, we've met each other, we're full of laugh and full of and happiness. 31 years.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052That's how... That's when we met each other and like I said in the introduction, we've seen other, each other since then at celebrations
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052Yep.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052hills. And like I said, you supported me when I did comedy in Kelowna to raise money for the Canadian Mental Health Association.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052give you a little background
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052I...
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052since we met.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052ahead.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052There was, I was a teacher, as things progressed, I'm like, I was also in the ski world, my kids were skiing all the time. And one day I drove down the mountain and I said to my principal, I said, "Geez, I'd like not to drive down the mountain anymore." And he said why don't you start a school?" So I started my own private school at Mount Washington on Vancouver Island, kids went to school in the morning, and we skied in the afternoon. And that
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052And the name of that was?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052in Vancouver Island. Oh, Podium of
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052What was the name of the school? I wanted you to get that plug in because that's a great name.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052because I didn't necessarily set out to put kids on the Olympic podium. I wanted to put them on their own life's podium. They, that I made the program around helping kids be who they wanted to be, and I would help them focus on their goals, and I'd help... And then I'd hold them a mirror and hold them accountable and saying if these are your goals, your actions need to exemplify those. And prior to your actions comes your thoughts." And so I ran that school for five years and luckily or not luckily, I've had-- Notice the jacket. It's from the Olympics. My oldest son, Teal, he's a
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052I could see that
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052And Mel Pemble, she's a Paralympian from that program, and Gil- Dylan Glennie, she's an Olympian in halfpipe from that program. three kids out of 12 who were with me for more than two years have gone to the Olympics. That's pretty good. That, I think, yeah.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052Congratulations. So your your formula works.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052And then I started to think about what I was doing, and I thought, "Am I-- what am I doing different than anybody else?" And I'm not telling people what to do. I'm not correcting them. I'm not criticizing them. I'm not saying, "This is what you need to do better." I'm saying, "Wow, you're doing that well. You wanna continue to do it? Hey, and by the way, what do you really wanna do? Is that working for you?" And so I led with a lot of questions and put the accountability on them. And then over the years, see, ah, how did that really work? I've only recently decided that it's because I've helped them choose their thoughts. Because thoughts precede your words, thoughts precede your actions, thoughts precede everything. So if you can control your thoughts, you can control everything. And in fact, you can even, practice, make your emotions different by choosing your thoughts through meditation, but also through a whole bunch of other ways. And so I came up this coaching. It's a life coaching. It's people coaching. I'm, and it's, and I call it the C's of, the C's of Life or C's Life. it's basically celebrate, cheer, and congratulate. creates positive cultures. That creates creativity. That's allows people to express. That allows people to grow and be who they want to be. Our culture is more influenced by the crippling C's, the crippling C's are complaining, criticizing, and comparing. So just outlined the whole program. If I could choose everybody in the world, and I could help them learn to choose thoughts that celebrate, compliment, cheer, and congratulate, and do not complain, criticize, and compare, they're happy. Programs flourish. People flourish. The relationships flourish, and it's great.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052So how does that relate? Most of my listeners, I would say all of my listeners Are not Olympians, and a lot of them aren't skiers. They're Olympians in their own way because if they're listening to our podcast, then they are winning because they have been able to figure out some kind of tools to manage their thoughts. Not everybody has. I've been doing mindfulness for 20 years, and what I say is it took seven years for mindfulness to become my friend. So when you meet Bobby Colvin, and he just said, "Hey, after I finish talking to you, I'm gonna get off of those pans." How would your formula work for somebody-- I'll tell you what I have. I have Tourette's, and it comes with a triad. Comes with OCD, ADD, and anxiety. And I say in my comedy act, now I have a fourth problem. I'm delusional. I think I'm a comedian. But how do you meet somebody that has my triad? Or let's just take one of them. Pick one. Which one do you wanna pick?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052you would be a really challenging specimen because you have these diagnosis already. You've got a uphill battle. You're lucky. You know why you're lucky? You've got a lot of struggles, and you've learned how to overcome those struggles. And there is evidence that the people that do have, what is it? The one where you can't read very well. Dyslexia. They're higher
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052Dyslexia. Dys-
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052to overcome something. in a lot of ways, you're already learning the I call it the habit of liking the hards. You're already overcoming these hardships. But I'll go-- I digress. If I had to work with a person like you, I'd say what do you want, Bob?" And what would you say? I would say, "What would be your goal out of this process that we're doing together?"
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052The first thing I wanted to do was I wanted to be able to get out of bed because I was so depressed that just putting my feet outside of the bed was difficult, and that was the first thing that I wanted to do
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052you're already at a level that probably dealing with a little bit of medication. I just listened to Zoe Health and Nutrition, and they were talking about depression. But they were talking not about that depression, they were talking about the operational depression that a lot of people live in. one of the things they did reflect on was if you can choose your thoughts, if you can choose to celebrate. with you, I would say something, we'd get on a schedule, we would get on a schedule, and there would be accountability. We'd make a goal-setting plan call it a plan for success. It's on my website. It's built for athletes, but it can be built for everything. I've done a plan for success for relationships. A plan for success for you would be to overcome your negative thoughts or your depression or whatever that is. And then we'd
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052for me specifically, I've done a lot of work, it's catastrophic thinking. And, when you say I'm one of the luckier ones, let's say the harder you work, the luckier you get.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052Yeah. Yeah.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052But,
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052Yeah.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052right? And so I've been working very hard with... I wanna tell you that I had a guest on called The Survivor from Irish Lake, and he was a Holocaust survivor, still is. He's speaking at one of my community chats this month, May 20th in Collingwood. It's a little far for you to go. But the reason he made it through the death camps is he had dyslexia, and he was a problem solver.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052so
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052you go.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052If you're interested, look up Viktor Frankl. He's also a... You've heard of him.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052Yes, I've, I-- a Holocaust survivor,
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052And then
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052he's fantastic.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052my mom. My mom...
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052Okay, so let's talk about you and your personal struggles, 'cause you just didn't become a teacher, and it wasn't just that you just didn't wanna go down the hill. You wanted to obviously help yourself. Did you help... Does your mom suffer?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052cancer, and her last three years of life was, she was, she couldn't get out of bed sometimes. She couldn't dress sometimes. She got s-shingles. She hated eating. Her physical body was really letting her down. But every day she got up and she goes, "What a great world. I love this world. I love my boyfriend. I love my dog. I love my little block that I can walk around." And she just celebrated life, even though her world was tough. she chose that, and I think people can choose. I think people can choose. Sometimes it's harder for others, and sometimes it's natural for people not to even have to choose the the positive thoughts column. But for the people that it's difficult, they've gotta make a plan, and then they've gotta do a consistent practice of training your thoughts, and eventually it becomes natural.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052So as a young person, because I met you when you were how old? Twenty...
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052about th- I think I was about 31, 32.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052Th-thirty-one. So prior to that, living in Campbell River, did you have any mental health struggles?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052but I was the oldest brother of a foster family, and we had 47 different foster kids go through. I was vicariously living through a different, whole bunch of different mental health issues from them. And, then the struggles with your own life when things go sour. There, every- we've all got, we've all got a story. in order to get through some of those bad times, you'd, hopefully have some people around you they can turn to, and then hopefully somebody can help you see the light at the end of the tunnel.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052So I didn't know that about your parents and you and foster kids. Obviously, that probably gave you a lot of your own tools to help people and to help develop this program, right?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052it let you... it gave me the compassion for people. From a young age, I was helping raise kids. From a young age, I was-- I could see the influence I had and making other people smile. And yeah. And no, so now I see a lot of those brothers and sisters flourishing. It's great.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052How long did you teach in a traditional school environment? Did you ever teach in a traditional school environment like
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052Yeah,
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052How long did you do that for?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052public school environment, and I ran a gifted program, and I ran another program where kids were in jail, and they came to my program. and then I did a couple teaching experiences overseas, and then I was a mentor for boys who were struggling to get through life in, when in their teens.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052So do you remember now when you look back, do you remember that-- 'cause, when I was in school, said I was just hyper. I actually had to go to a special school. They-- I left high school, and I went to a free school 'cause I was hyper.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052No.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052I wasn't really hyper.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052Yeah.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052I had Tourette's, but they just labeled me as a hyperactivity person. So looking back, did you e-ever have hyperactive students?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052hyperactive students have a real difficult time in the public school system because we ask them to sit down and behave. We ask them sit down and do exactly opposite what an active body needs. A lot of times people need movement. Like boys move back and forth so that their left and right hemisphere of their brains connect easier so that they can think better. And of times, if kids can get out-- That's why when I ran that school, and the kids just had to be focused for the morning, and then in the afternoon they got to go skiing. They were motivated. They were motivated to get their own schedule done. So- Yeah, it it's again, helping kids realize they have the choice. They have the choice to succeed or not. They have the choice to do what they wanna do, what they should do, or what's easy. And when you let-- When you get kids that information, and then you help them practice it, and they can eliminate, "Oh, you can't complain," and they stop the complaining, and they stop the criticizing, and then they start to see opportunities as opposed to barriers. And so that's what, I think that's what this whole thing about choosing thought choosing the optimism and not choosing the fears.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052So how do you go about explaining to somebody how to choose positive thoughts rather than negative thoughts? Do you have a tool that you use in your school or that you use personally?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052yes. Once you know those things, the C's, once you knows the C's that are positive and the C's that are crippling, you catch yourself, and then you start to practice. And another thing that works is meditation. as you meditate, you train your brain you gave your brain some rest, so that later on when the negative stuff comes off, it's easy to choose celebratory thoughts or congratulatory thoughts or thoughts that are not negative, so you don't allow yourself to self-criticize.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052did any of those athletes of yours, including your son that went to the Olympics and stood on their podium, did they ever meditate? Did you ever go have meditation as part of the training?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052thing is that a lot of those kids that get to that level, they are self-critical, and they have really high standards, so they're keep pushing themselves, pushing those, pu-pushing themselves. One of the things that I never did with the kids, 'cause I was, I didn't realize this till later, but some of them would create games, and from those games, they would play the video game, So they would like for snow or for skiing in the snowboard park, they would create the park, and then they would make this little man, and as they're going, so they'd be visualizing the actions that they were gonna do in competition. And then the other one is I work with kids' minds and emotions, 'cause you get on a, you get on a start list or you get on the This line, before you start a competition, you're looking down this huge jump you gotta go over. you do that with your mind? I have this whole preparatory plan that you set out all the different things you're gonna do and need before then. In addition to it, you create a mantra, and that mantra allows you to get your mind settled so your body can do what it's trained to do, so your mind doesn't get in the way of messing your body up. So there's preparation.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052So let me ask you, let's talk about those C's again. Let's go through them because I think that's a key thing this is my 50 48 plus five is 53rd episode, and I've never had anybody explain it with the C. So can you tell me a little bit about the C's again?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052I tell the, I tell my athletes and my students the most important thing in life is to choose your thoughts. No, the most important thing to happiness is to choose your thoughts. The second is tied with third. Second is ex- second and third are exercise and nutrition. Once you have those three down, you have the c- you have the calculation to be happy. But yours... So the thoughts are the most important, so you choose to celebrate, you choose to congratulate, you choose to compliment, and you choose to cheer. Mostly just positivity. If you digress to criticism, complaining, and comparing, actually changes your chemistry. your brain chemistry, your body chemistry is all orchestrated by your thoughts. So choosing those positive C's and not allowing the negative C's to influence you, develops aura about you that allows you to go on into life optimistically, attracts light and keeps away the dark. Yeah.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052seize life. Now listen, Shane I wanna get, get this in because this is important. I introduced you, I liked you from the beginning 'cause you lived in Campbell River and you were an outdoor guy. And now they have green prescriptions where doctors and psychiatrists actually prescribe nature-based wellness. So tell me a little bit about you and your nature-based wellness and how it got you s-
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052So
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052you are today.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052story was my first... I grew up in Alaska till I was seven, and my first pet was a seal. My dad he hunted for our food, and he actually We he hunted seal, and when he brought this big seal to the shore, he sliced the seal open. Inside was a baby seal, and he gave it mouth-to-mouth, and it lived. And we had this pet seal called Shanky. So that kinda opened up a
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052Nice.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052me of, "Okay, let's go for adventure." And we lived in the outdoors, and we lived on properties, and we had farms and all that. Then, so when I got a chance to grow up my own kids, my oldest boy, Teal, he had been camping for more than 30 days before he was one year old. And yeah, and the kids got
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052Really
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052they were able to... I gave them freedom, and I gave them all these toys and all these sports and outdoors and stuff. And it paid off, because Teal is a four-time World Cup winner, a two-time Olympian, and he still professionally makes films for Teton Gravity Research. He was just came back from a heli-ski trip. what you'll like, Bob, is his main occupation is he's a fly fish guide. He fly fishes at the number one...
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052I knew that, but I wanted you to tell the listeners that
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052the
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052because fly fishing...
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052lodge in the world called the Lower Dean River Lodge. And then that lodge turns into the Great Bear Heli-Skiing Lodge in the winter. And then my other son is Cole, Cole is a professional skier. He skis for Salomon, and he also coaches racing in the winter. And in the summer, he's a pilot. he's now flying in and out of lakes out of Dease Lake, which is northern British Columbia, and he flies fishermen into lakes and flies them out. So the best thing I've ever done in life is raise my boys, 'cause they have the best life.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052And you've done a fantastic job, and you had how many students on the podium at the Olympics?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052students that I've worked with for more than two years, I've had nine different athletes that have done part of my program. And I gotta say that's a lot. That's...
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052I think a major accomplishment of yours, aside from getting your children and and your students to the Olympics, is that you grew up in a home where
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052More than
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052how many foster children were there? More than 40, and I don't think a lot of our listeners ever were in foster homes. Maybe they were, but that's probably one of the best things that you ever did is you gave 47 people the opportunity to be on their own podium.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052However, whatever they've chosen in life, they're still smiling, and they're almost all First Nations, they're just wonderful people. All of them.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052Okay. Listen, Shane, I have a BAST, Bob's Amazing Support Team, and you have a SAST, Shane's Amazing Support Team. Everybody that has challenges, especially mental health challenges, needs a support system. So tell me about your support system.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052Mental, athletic, emotional person in the world. Her name's Shawnee Harley. She's my sister. Check out www.shawneeharley.com. I have, for the last, don't know, 2016, been going through some tough times, Shawnee has just helped me so much with my choice of dec- my choice of thoughts. And she-- I don't even know if she would know that she's helping with, me with that. But she would help me refocus, she helped my clarity, and she was wonderful. And the second best is my brother. My brother Shannon. I can talk with him anything. Sometimes I'll call him up and I'll say, "Shannon," and he'll solve my problem, and it'd be like, "Oh, thanks." So it's cool to have a brother and sister that are so talented in the emotional strategies or the mental strategies to help your emotions.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052What does your sister do? Is she a professional
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052She's a
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052per...
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052a mental toughness coach. She helps athletes with
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052Ah.
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052And she's, I don't know, she's very successful. She's a two-time Olympian herself. She coached the national basketball team, two different Olympians, or Olympics. I just-- she's just able to take chaos and it go, "Oh yeah, I understand that. not a big deal anymore." So y- give her-- Bob, give her a call yourself sometime when you're...
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052what we'll do is we'll, we'll-- you'll send me the link. Does she have a website? Okay, you'll send me a link, and we'll put that in there. But listen, Shane, so your advice for others that don't wanna be Olympians but wanna be able to control their thoughts, what is that?
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052I would say to everybody, try to be conscious of what you're thinking. And if you're thinking crippling Cs, complaining, comparing, stop it And change those to some celebratory thing. If you're thinking, "Oh, the weather's so bad outside, it's raining," change that to, "Oh, maybe those-- maybe the plants need it," or, "It's gonna be, it's gonna be nice tomorrow." To change your thoughts your chemistry, changes the world, and we all have that power. And if I could just tell people, the biggest one is to celebrate, to say, "How good is this?" we're all so lucky.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052I'm celebrating because you have been a great guest, but we've run out of time. And we'll probably do this again 'cause you have been enlightened us because I don't think there's that many listeners that have really got somebody like yourself that really has coached people both physically and mentally to the best of their ability to be on the podium at the Olympics. But if people wanna call you, they'll be able to contact you and maybe you can just get them on their podium, even if it's just--
squadcaster-d829_4_05-06-2026_180052Yep.
bobby_4_05-06-2026_210052you're in your bedroom, right? Even if it's in their bedroom and they can just stand on the bed and jump up and down. So listen, Shane, we've run out of time. This is Bobby Colvin and saying thank you so much for listening to What's in Your Toolbox? Guys, that was pretty fantastic listening to a guy that's actually coached athletes to get onto the podium. So as I always do in my podcast, I grab something from the newspaper, and in the Globe and Mail in October of 2025, there was something that was called What's the Event-- What's the Point of Talking About My Problems? Our ability to verbally communicate our needs and emotional experiences is one of the most powerful tools we have as human beings. Nothing-- Naming our pain does not make us weak, it makes us aware. We communicate from the moment we're born A newborn's cry can signal hunger, discomfort, or desire for connection. Once that need is met, a sense of calm returns. As we grow, we experience a wider range of emotions, including joy, sadness, anger, and love. So that's what Shane has done, and that's what all the guests on my podcast do, is they talk about their tools and they communicate. They're not afraid to talk about mental health struggles, and that's what this is all about. So in conclusion, you've just heard new tools, and they are the C's that have been the cornerstone of Shane Harley's program for training athletes and for even helping over 40 foster children. So in the show notes, there'll be a connection to C's Life. You'll be able to visit Shane's website. And as our next episode, which will be in July, this is gonna be called Intrepid Living. So for all of you, please subscribe. Sharing is caring, and let's-- if we can just help one person, then we've done our job.
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