Good Vibrations

Good Vibrations: Osteopathy, Self-Care, and Regulating the Nervous System with Kaili Stackhouse

Host Bobby K. introduces episode three of season five of the No Magic Bullet podcast, “What’s In Your Toolbox,” featuring osteopathic manual practitioner Kaili Stackhouse, formerly his registered massage therapist and a member of the No Magic Bullet charities advisory panel. They discuss what osteopathy is, Kaili’s five-and-a-half-year training, her research on vagal tone/HRV during pandemic social isolation, and how manual therapy can address physical pain, breathing mechanics, and autonomic nervous system balance (sympathetic vs parasympathetic). Kaili explains how some tension can carry emotional “vibrational” qualities and how creating a safe space, including guided verbal release, can help tissue release and anxiety regulation while noting she is not a mental health professional. They share self-care tools (movement, meditation, music, fasting, nutrition, energy medicine), the importance of a strong support team, and advice to ask for help, trust your gut, and treat mind-body-spirit as interconnected. Bobby closes with reflections on longevity, environment, and upcoming episodes.

00:00 Welcome to the Podcast

00:39 Meet Kaili Stackhouse

03:33 What Osteopathy Is

04:37 How They Met

06:14 From RMT to Osteopath

06:45 Training and Palpation

09:05 Talk Therapy in Sessions

11:57 Kaili’s Self Care Toolbox

15:07 Good Vibrations Release

19:04 Nervous System and Breath

23:05 Finding the Right Practitioner

25:06 Support Teams That Help

27:34 Advice and Wrap Up

30:21 Host Reflection and Longevity

32:54  A disclaimer notes Bobby is not a doctor and speaks from lived experience.

Links

Kaili's Website

https://www.kailistackhouse.com/

Link  the professional association website for those interested in learning more about osteopathy in Ontario:

https://oao.in1touch.org/site/about/osteopathy

Subscribe to What's in your Toolbox? http://nomagicbullet.org/

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Transcript

0:07

Welcome to No Magic Bullet podcast series. What's in your toolbox is a monthly podcast on mental health. I'm your host, Bobby k comedian, mental health advocate, and executive producer of the documentary. No Magic Bullet, what's in your toolbox? An honest Discussion on Mental Health. I am 70 years young, suffer from Tourette syndrome and love doing these podcasts. That always reminds me. To practice what I preach.

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 0:38

Hello everybody. Welcome to episode three, season five of What's In Your Toolbox. My guest, when I'm in her. Treatment room on her wall. It talks, she's got so many numbers or letters. She's A-D-O-M-P-D-S-C-O-R-M-T, and we're gonna find a little bit what that means, but. We call this episode Good Vibrations'cause you'll find out why I wanted to call it healing hands or Magic Hands. But one of my previous guests was Dr. Adrian Grace and he was a chiropractor and he was actually Kaley's father's teacher'cause he started the chiropractic college and in his family he has 1, 2, 3. Chiropractors, and I think you'll find out from Kaleigh that she comes from a family of healing hands. So we didn't call it magic hands, we called it good vibrations. But Kaleigh is on my advisory panel for no magic bullet because we try to have people that have industry expertise in providing. I'm gonna say holistic or non-traditional kind of therapy to augment traditional medical therapy, which today is really just pharmaceuticals. We did have, it was the first episode in January, Julie Mitchell, who owned Beam Light Therapy, which was in Thornberry, and it was an alternative therapy for enhancing mood. And you'll find out that Ka. Is an osteopath. My osteopath, before that, she was my registered massage therapist or my RMT and so without a, do I, I'm here in world Headquarters, no magic Bullet, Eugenia, Ontario, and Kaylee is at her home in Collingwood, and this is our second YouTube. Podcast. So you're gonna see her at her home, I believe, and she, I'm not allowed to say this, but she's looks beautiful every time I see her. So without ado, as I always say, I'm gonna introduce you to Kaylee Stackhouse. Hey girl.

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 3:18

Hi Bob. Thanks so much for having me

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 3:20

It's my pleasure. Listen, it took a little while'cause you've never done a podcast before, but this is just like us being in your treatment room. It's just a 30 minute conversation and I know everybody is very, will be very excited. I don't even know if everybody knows what an osteopath is.

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 3:41

I think there's a good chance that they might not. I didn't at the beginning either. Osteopathic manual practitioners, which is what I am, are we're trained manual therapists. We look at the whole body and basically we're trying to figure out how to bring people's bodies back into balance. So we look at the muscular system, we look at nervous system, the spine, and the different layers of the person to help them, come back into, center. Whether that's like center of gravity, sometimes it's more of an emotional center. But really we are manual practitioners that help people like you and me live, optimal

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 4:25

Okay. So that's a pretty good summary of what an osteopath is. And I do believe you're right. I don't think a lot of people know, although when I tell them I have an osteopath, they said, give me your phone number. We need her. So how do we know each other? I'll start off, I needed a chiropractor. I had a friend named Steve Officer who said that he has a great chiropractor. Jeff Stackhouse which happens to be your father. Your mother was in the office and there you were as a registered massage therapist, which I went to. And how long ago do you think that was?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 5:03

Oh gosh. If I had to guess that would be maybe

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 5:06

So 10 years ago, you have been my. Therapist, so that's how we know each other. Tell me, do you wanna add anything to that about how we know each other or how our relationship has evolved?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 5:22

I think you pretty well covered it. Yeah. You started seeing me as a massage therapist and I've been helping you along your health journey ever since. So yeah, I'm excited to be here

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 5:32

So there you were as an RMT, but you worked very hard. You were taking courses and you were studying to be an osteopath and actually I think even wrote your thesis on HRV. Is that correct?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 5:49

Yeah, vagal tone and which is measured by HRV on people who were socially isolated during the pandemic to see if osteopathy could help them regulate their

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 6:02

So there you were.

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 6:03

So that's.

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 6:03

One day, you're my RMT, the next day, you're my osteopath and it's great. And we're gonna talk a little bit about why we call this good vibrations. But why did you decide to go from an RMT to an osteopath?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 6:20

I would say as much as I loved massage therapy as a profession, I would find myself feeling a little bit frustrated, wondering, why certain areas were always tight and. How I could help these people actually get better. So I guess it comes just from a deep curiosity. And, wanting to understand the human body, the human mind a little bit

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 6:45

So before we get into good vibrations. Your training took for me. It took forever. Because you were always studying how long. Tell me a little bit about your training as an osteopath.

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 7:01

Yeah, it felt like forever for me too, Bob. It was about, I'm gonna say maybe five and a half years. There was four years where I was, in school part-time. And then about a year and a half where I was doing the research portion of the event. So anyway sorry, what

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 7:21

Just the training, how long it took and how I guess for me it's the next level of take of self care and being able to take care of people.

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 7:33

Yeah. So it's, it really is a process and I think that it is

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 7:36

I.

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 7:37

and it takes that long for a reason because when you're going through the training, you're learning about all the different body systems and you're also learning how to hone your palpation, right? So that's, I think one of the core pieces of learning osteopathy is how to palpate these different. Layers of tissue and also the different layers of the person. You start to feel, what is the structure, like the fascia, the bones, the muscle versus, the fluids or sometimes emotions that might show up as, a vibration. in the tissue and you, you can get into energy work as well yeah, a bit of a process, but I'm so glad that I did it. Certainly wasn't easy, but I feel like it has allowed me to, step into a new phase of being able to help people heal on a deeper level, and it's helped me so much. So I'm just excited to share that with my

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 8:31

listen to me, 10 years we've been together, I've been through a rollercoaster, both physically.'cause I have Tourettes and my fa my shoulder twitches a thousand times a day. And you have helped me with that, both as an RMT and as an osteopath. But then all of a sudden my life took. A dive a number of times, and your coaching and counseling and listening to me helped me tremendously. But the reason that we call this good vibrations is because, I have a psychiatrist. I I have talk therapy with him. And in our session, I know that there's a lot of talk therapy. In your practice with me at least, do you have a lot of talk therapy with other clients?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 9:28

I would say so, and I just I have to be careful to, acknowledge that is, I'm not a mental health professional, but when people come into you with, tension in their body, or they have digestive upsets or nervous system dysregulation, this stuff doesn't come from nowhere. We all live very complex lives, and, when people feel safe, all of a sudden they start telling you about. What's really going on in their lives. And I've started noticing a correlation with the like the Palpatory experience for me as a practitioner and what's going on in their bodies. So it leaves a space for them. To then, consciously release that and sometimes they aren't aware of it, but just having that space to be able to process what's going on in their lives. I'm not there to, give advice or tell them what to do, but it really does provide a space where healing can begin and people can let go of some of those layers and then you see what the body can do with it. And I think that's so

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 10:32

Listen, you've just qualified that you're not a mental health professional, so let's just go right back to me and as am I a patient or a client? What am I to you?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 10:44

you're a

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 10:45

Okay.

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 10:45

me, it's a bit of a gray area. When like in RMT Land they call everybody a client and then crossing that to osteopathy. Usually they're referred to as patients, so I often will use them

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 11:00

Okay, so this patient, and since we're talking about lived experience, has been using you. As a sounding board to talk about emotions, moods, and just anxieties and challenges. And you have been fantastic. And one of the reasons that you've been so fantastic is that you practice self care. I know that you do fasts and I know that you have worked very hard on your own self-care, and you can then transfer that to your patients because I work very hard on my mental health. And the reason for this podcast is to try to let even one person here that they're not alone. So we haven't rehearsed this. Do you wanna talk a little bit about your belief in self-care and what you do for yourself?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 12:04

Sure. So I have struggled with anxiety and depression like many people do. I was, became aware of that when I was in my teens and I had gone to a doctor. All they could offer me was medication and later on talk therapy. And so that's when I started building my toolbox. I started running. I know you used to run as well, and so that was something that I could do to, expend energy and keep myself on track. And movements still a really big part of my toolbox. I don't run as much as I used to. I weightlift go for hikes in the wood, but I would say that's a really big. Part of the healing and grounding. I also have a morning practice that I do. I meditate, I pray, I stretch, I breathe. So it's become a little bit more intuitive and less structured as time has gone on. But I find if I spend those moments at the beginning of the day, it really sets me up for success later on. Couple other things that I love are music. If I'm struggling, sometimes I'll just put my favorite music on and sing or dance. I find that to be really powerful. And I know you mentioned the fasts, so cleansing. Yeah. Clearing out. Different, toxins and invaders from my body and my organs has been really instrumental in just helping my gut and my nervous system regulate and heal. And then the other piece that goes along with that is nutrition. So I think that's something that has been slowly building over time, but when you start to realize, you feel better, your brain is clearer. When you're eating foods that agree with you it's really motivating to keep it up. So I would say those are probably some of the biggest things. And I've also, in place of talk therapy, I have really found. Energy medicine to be really powerful in helping me release some of my own traumas. Sometimes that's, with a body worker and I've also played around with some quantum biofeedback this past year, which has been really interesting as well. So I feel like you could do a whole podcast on that, but.

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 14:14

We probably can. So tell me something you I believe that if you're gonna get divorced, find a divorce lawyer that's been divorced. I believe that if you're gonna find a, a psychiatrist. That's gonna deal with anxiety. It's probably better to have somebody that's had anxiety themselves and you, I wish that we could have called this healing hands because somehow you've inherited that from your family. You have wonderful healing hands, you have wonderful healing energy. And when I go to your, my session, I come out just. So positive because it's so calming in your room and it's not you do put on Fleetwood Mac for me.'cause you know that I like that. But it's not the, it's not the Fleetwood Mac that makes the difference. So a little couple of sessions ago you said, let's try something and I was having terrible heel pain. And my leg, fascia, whatever it is. My whole body's one great big tension ball. But you said, let me put my finger on the fascia and if you would you talk yell outat? What some of your anxieties is that sort of a correct description of it?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 15:39

Yeah, that's, that's certainly part of it. When I'm working on areas that have tension, there's, I've noticed that there's a difference between tissue that's just, structurally tight versus. Oh, this is holding something emotional and the way that I feel it, it has a vibrational quality to it. So one of my mentors and the people who first started helping me navigate that part of my healing journey, she would ask questions about the quality of that sensation for me. So basically, I've. Adapted that, and I've started doing the same with some of my patients asking, is there an emotion, is there a situation? Sometimes for people it shows up as like a color or a shape or a memory. And when you start to prompt people through that, sometimes people aren't aware and you don't necessarily have to be, but you do have to connect with that part of your body. And intentionally let it go. And I have found it to be even more powerful if people are able to connect with some of the things that are maybe causing them an anxiety and verbally release them in the session. It's really powerful as you felt. Patients can feel their own tissue release. So it just is really powerful when you combine those two things together.

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 16:58

that would be basically mental health. Emotion anxiety is mental health. So the reason that we're doing this podcast is, and the reason that we do our community chats and our workshops is so people can understand that they can go somewhere else other than. A medical doctor or a psychiatrist for pharmaceuticals and use techniques to help them with their anxiety. Would you agree with that?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 17:30

I would agree with that,

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 17:32

So that's why we called it good vibrations because as I spoke out what was bothering me, the fascia, the tension in my leg went away.

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 17:48

And did you feel, you felt the release in your body as it was happening?

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 17:54

absolutely. That's why I said, what are we gonna call this thing? And I thought good vibrations was what it's all about. But I'm sure I'm not the only person that has had that experience. And I think anybody out there that's listening to this can understand if they go to not just an osteopath that has a sign that says I'm an osteopath, but an o an osteopath that practices what she preaches, it would be great for their anxiety. And we're not doctors, so I'm not saying reduce, it's gonna replace your pharmaceuticals, but it definitely is a technique right. Okay, so what else about mental health do you think? Osteopath thickness or whatever you call it. Correct me. What do you call it? What else can osteopathy help you with, with regards to your emotions, to your moods, to your anxieties, to your energy.

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 19:04

Okay. Great question. In terms of how osteopathy can help you, because you're looking at the body as an entire unit. You're not separating somebody's nervous system, from their organs, from their spine. You're really trying to figure out how all of these things can function together. So it can be as simple as helping somebody relieve some physical pain. That they're in because when you're in physical pain, it can really have a negative effect on your mental state. from a mechanical perspective, you can help to, when you think about something like breathing, everybody talks about breathing to regulate your nervous system. If you have a rib cage or a diaphragm that's stuck and isn't able to actually breathe properly, you have somebody that is using all these accessory muscles in their neck. their pecs and whatnot to help them breathe, creating a lot of unnecessary tension. So you can approach it from that perspective. And I think one of the most interesting and powerful things is actually being able to balance out the nervous system itself. So the techniques that we use are actually or some of them anyway, are actually used on the central nervous system. So you work. On the brain, the tissues around the brain, the fluid around the brain, and the spinal cord into the pelvis. And you're really trying to release some of those strains so that that whole system, your central nervous system, is able to function properly, which then flows out into all the peripheral nerves as well. So you may have heard people talk about the autonomic nervous system. It's the nervous system that's operating. Like when you're sleeping, when you're not thinking about it. And this is responsible for our stress response. You've got your sympathetic nervous system, which is like fight and flight. You have your parasympathetic nervous system, which is, some people refer to it as rest and digest. But basically these systems need to be in some kind of harmony in order for things like. Digestion to occur. Connection, when we're feeling safe and calm and balanced, we're able to, function at our best when we have an overactivated stress system or sympathetic nervous system, which is pretty common in today's busy world. It's easy for some of these other. Systems that are supposed to be working for us to work against us. So I think that has been one of the most interesting things for me to learn about both as a practitioner and as a patient because I absolutely go and go and see my osteopath on a regular basis just to get reset.'cause I know that this is an area, I don't wanna say of weakness, but it's just an area that. I am always going to be, learning, always gonna be healing, always gonna be rebalancing. It helps, bring me into a more balanced or, coherent

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 22:09

Coherent. Now you sound like Joe Dispenza coherence between

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 22:13

It's the same stuff. This

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 22:14

the stuff between your heart and your breath. Now we talk about breath and breath work because I cold plunge and I cold plunge specifically to manage my breath so that it's only cold for about 15 seconds, and then I catch my breath. So is osteo, is breathwork part of being an osteopathic lab, being part of a patient of Kaley's?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 22:41

It's not specifically, but I would say that breath is a big part of the treatments. For some people, we will go through breathing exercises and for other people it's more subtle where I'm, I'll have them breathe during the session and then monitor how the different parts of the respiratory system are moving to make sure that. When they leave the clinic that they're able to utilize it

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 23:05

Now we're gonna have show notes, obviously and in it will be a link to your website. And so the idea is if anybody lives in the Collingwood area or Gray County and they wanna get a consultation with you to see if there's a fit. They'll be able to go there or else they can probably just look up somebody an osteopath. But my view. Of things are 80 20. There's 80% of doctors that are great and 20% that are lousy. There's 80% of psychiatrists that are great, 20% are lousy. There's 80% of plumbers that are great, and 20% are lousy. So the relationship between the patient and the therapist is key. Would you believe? Do you believe that?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 23:57

Oh, absolutely. And I also believe that there is someone for everybody. So you know, so if you try going to one practitioner and they're not for you, that's okay. You just might not be resonating with them. But I would agree 100%.

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 24:12

a lucky guy that I started off with Dr. Jeff. That's what we call your father. And right in the next room was Kaylee Stackhouse, the RMT, who became a osteopath. And now we have this great relationship and I just want all my listeners and anybody watching YouTube to appreciate that I've been lucky enough to find, connection. So I talk about my vast Bob's amazing support team, of which you're one of them because you're, I hurt my back and you called me from somewhere to say, come on in if you need me. So you are a support system because when I hurt my back. I immediately have catastrophic thinking. I think I'm never gonna walk again, but I'm sure it's just something from teaching those little brat skiing a couple of times. So I have a bass. You have a cast kaley's amazing support team. So tell me a little bit about your support team.

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 25:19

Okay. I have an amazing husband, will and I, so I'm gonna give him a shout out since he'll probably be listening to this at some point. Also I'm really close with my family. I have three incredible siblings, so I just feel so, lucky to have them to. I don't wanna say rely on, but yeah, they're definitely a big part of that. I have a dog and she's amazing. Lots of friends and community and that have been with me through some of the hard times and, friends who've also gone through some of the challenges, whether it's like school or, other pieces of life. And so that for sure makes it makes it worthwhile and, and makes it. Tolerable. Have my own healthcare practitioners. There's a woman named Erin Smith who she doesn't hold a specific designation, but she's probably one of the most well-trained individuals I know. And she really helped me when I was starting to, release some of my physical and emotional traumas and peeling back those layers. So she was amazing. And I still see her periodically. I also have my own osteopathic practitioner. He really helped me to start peeling back a brain injury that I had dealt with years ago. So that's been really key in helping me to regulate as a person and as a practitioner. And you mentioned Dr. Jeff. Yeah. Treat, I get treated by him periodically as well. And probably wouldn't be here today without him. And also I would say the, maybe one of the newest members of my cast is God. I feel like I've, connected faith level, which has been helpful for me anyways.

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 27:00

Listen

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 27:01

I would think that.

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 27:02

it was a leading question'cause I do know that you have a great support system and that you're continually growing it. So I'm a, we're like bookends, you're a young person. I know you say I'm not that young, but you're a lot younger than I am. And I still try to grow my support system because I think that is one of the key things. To be able to deal with things. So I really appreciate that. Even though you charge me, you're part of my support system. Remember, we're supposed to have levity in this thing, so what advice would you have to a listener or somebody watching this YouTube if they want to explore an osteopath practitioner like you to solve both their physical and emotional issues?

kaili-stackhouse_4_03-04-2026_101504 27:55

Gosh, I have so many, but I don't feel like we're, we only have so much time. But something that came up for me is just don't be afraid to ask for help. None of us can treat ourselves. We all need support. trust your gut. something doesn't feel like it's for you or maybe for you right now, then listen to that voice. I feel like that voice has guided me through so many of life's. Little twists and turns. something else that comes to mind is the fact that, we can't separate our physical health from our mental or spiritual health. Like we really are interconnected beings. Keep that in mind. And when you do something that is, maybe spiritually or mentally nourishing, it has a positive impact on your physical body. And vice versa. And the last thing I just wanna say is that know we talked a little bit about, coherence, but just like the ripple effect of the work that you do, whether it's with your osteopath or visiting a friend. Or for you, Bob, I know you like to bake. All these things that you do to raise your own vibration, it does spill out into the world around you. And if we feel calm and connected enough that, we can. Maybe have a, a smile or a conversation with somebody that we meet out in the world. It really does, it makes the world a better place, which might sound cheesy, but I really believe it to be true. It's, it feels really good to know that we are part of something that's just bigger than ourselves. So I think

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 29:28

I think that that is so key and we will be having. Community chats and workshops in the Simco Gray County area, and I'm hoping that Kaylee will join us as one of the people that you could sit with on a one-to-one basis and talk to her a little bit about it. But now, unfortunately, like all things that are good. Hours turn into minutes, so our time is up. I wanna thank you so much this you've done so fantastic. I hope you don't give up being an osteopath and start becoming a podcaster. Okay I need you to be an osteopath and everybody. So this is Bobby Coven and. Signing off saying Thank you so much for listening to this episode of What's In Your Toolbox. Okay, listen everybody, isn't that fantastic that we have an osteopath on our podcast and she really explained. Very succinctly that the connection between the mind, body and the soul is, is key. And I think that if you go to the show notes, you'll find Kaleigh. You can talk to her about her practice, she'll give you a consultation and find out if there's a fit and if not, maybe look up osteopath. You can Google it and maybe there's one in your area. So as I do with all of these podcasts, I finish off reading something that I read in the newspaper and on. November the 19th, 2025 in the Global Mail, there was an article about where L Longevity lives. And really, this is all about it from my perspective, and I think from a lot of people's perspective, longevity. We want to do things that will make us live longer and. Quality, not quantity, whether it's the HRV that we talked about, whether it's osteopath, whether it's self-care. So this article talked about that the global male was running a se a series called Aging and there was a couple of areas in Canada that the population age as well. And one of them from nova Scotia talked about she credits her longevity to one thing above all else. I did a lot of walking in my life, so that's key. Also, I'm just reading from this your environment. Whether you are born in a place like Lunenberg or Mo southward, such as Parkville later in life, longevity g. Experts say where you live can matter just as much as genetics. If you want to live longer, don't try to change your behavior, change your environment. So listen, I've changed my environment. I'm at World headquarters in Lake Eugenia. Calling wood is a good place because you have access to all the green spaces that Kaleigh takes advantage of. Early on in our relationship, she was always going camping outside in a tent with fireplaces. So I don't know if that's a tool or not, but we've just made it poof. It's a tool. So listen, in conclusion, this is. About self-care. It's about if you had a car, you have to change the oil in order to keep it running on a regular basis. And if you have a body, you have to keep it. Tuned and somebody like Kaleigh is well qualified because she tunes her own body and therefore can tune yours. So this is gonna be on YouTube and there will be a link in the show notes. So you can see both myself and Kaleigh.'cause we're trying to increase awareness and YouTube is, is one of the ways to do that. So our next episode is called Drive to Thrive, and it's, young lady who's an Uber driver in San Francisco who met somebody that knows me, and in their short five minute ride they connected us and said, you two have to talk a little bit about tools in your toolbox, or Her name is Eda Zella. I hope I got that right. It's the guy at the airport that announces, please come up here with your passport. I could never have that job'cause I get everybody's names wrong, so I'm gonna call her Speedy. So please subscribe below and look forward to the next episode of What's in Your Toolbox

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Thank you for listening to No Magic Bullet. What's in your toolbox? I am not a doctor, but have lived experience in dealing with. The many challenges of mental health. If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe and share with others who will benefit from learning about tools they can use to deal with their own mental health challenges. If we can help just one person, all this effort to bring this podcast to you is worth it.

bobby_4_03-04-2026_101505 35:14

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